John Rahm

[PJOHNS2654]

Walks of. the 18th green Saturday leading by six strokes, met by officials who advise he has tested positive for Corona Virus. He is forced to withdraw from tournament.
He had already been vaccinated for Covid.

[stanley]

Did he get a second test? I would've

[dewilson58]

He had already been vaccinated for Covid.

Are you sure?? Fully vaccinated??? :popcorn:

[bagboy]

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[golfing eagles]

Walks of. the 18th green Saturday leading by six strokes, met by officials who advise he has tested positive for Corona Virus. He is forced to withdraw from tournament.
He had already been vaccinated for Covid.

No, No, NO he had NOT been vaccinated. The PGA declined to give out the information as to his vaccine status, since it was not theirs to disclose, HOWEVER.....they stated that the protocol only called for daily testing as part of contact tracing IF AND ONLY IF the person was NOT vaccinated (which kind of gives the show away, since they also stated Rahm had been undergoing daily tests)

Why do people continue to post crap they know nothing about??????

[Bjeanj]

I feel bad for him, but ... my understanding, not confirmed other than by golfing eagles, is that he had not been vaccinated.

If that’s the case, why not??

When he was informed of the positive test, I heard him say “not again”. Does that mean he had tested positive previously, or that he had COVID before? I don’t know. I do have questions.

Sadly, he left a lot of money out on the golf course.

[Stu from NYC]

I feel bad for him, but ... my understanding, not confirmed other than by golfing eagles, is that he had not been vaccinated.

If that’s the case, why not??

When he was informed of the positive test, I heard him say “not again”. Does that mean he had tested positive previously, or that he had COVID before? I don’t know. I do have questions.

Sadly, he left a lot of money out on the golf course.

Who is sorry now?

[dewilson58]

No, No, NO he had NOT been vaccinated. Why do people continue to post crap they know nothing about??????

To get a rise out of you..............quit falling for it and their fun will be eliminated.

[graciegirl]

Walks of. the 18th green Saturday leading by six strokes, met by officials who advise he has tested positive for Corona Virus. He is forced to withdraw from tournament.
He had already been vaccinated for Covid.

He had NOT been vaccinated against Covid-19.

Jon Rahm Jack Nicklaus Memorial Tournament PGA Tour covid 19 (https://www.dispatch.com/story/sports/2021/06/06/jon-rahm-jack-nicklaus-memorial-tournament-pga-tour-covid-19/7572795002/)

[graciegirl]

This may be a duplicate.

NO.

John Rahm had NOT been vaccinated.

Jon Rahm Jack Nicklaus Memorial Tournament PGA Tour covid 19 (https://www.dispatch.com/story/sports/2021/06/06/jon-rahm-jack-nicklaus-memorial-tournament-pga-tour-covid-19/7572795002/)

[dewilson58]

Wow..............did I hear that right??

Nance said only 50% of the players are vaccinated.

[golfing eagles]

Wow..............did I hear that right??

Nance said only 50% of the players are vaccinated.

Yes the PGA stated that. And no percentage on caddies given. What are they all thinking?????

[Stu from NYC]

Yes the PGA stated that. And no percentage on caddies given. What are they all thinking?????

Or not thinking

[Villageswimmer]

Yes the PGA stated that. And no percentage on caddies given. What are they all thinking?????


Unbelievable! I felt so sorry for him but that was such a bad decision. No sympathy now. Do they think they’re superhuman?

[JMintzer]

Why do people continue to post crap they know nothing about??????

Because it's easier than doing any actual research?

[JMintzer]

Wow..............did I hear that right??

Nance said only 50% of the players are vaccinated.

Pretty much the same as the general population... Plus, they are outdoors, most of time...

"U.S. share of the population vaccinated CDC data shows that about 51% of Americans have received at least one dose and about 41% are fully vaccinated."

P.S. This is as of 4 days ago...

[DARFAP]

Positive test was confirmed shortly thereafter

[JoMar]

Walks of. the 18th green Saturday leading by six strokes, met by officials who advise he has tested positive for Corona Virus. He is forced to withdraw from tournament.
He had already been vaccinated for Covid.

How does it feel to be publicly so wrong and have future credibility take a hit

[dewilson58]

How does it feel to be publicly so wrong and have future credibility take a hit

It's not so bad, Meteorologist do it every day. :a040:

[karostay]

Saddest part his parents are arriving from Spain he hasn't seen them in 2 years nor have they seen their grand baby

[JMintzer]

You are wrong on the vaccine issue and wrong on Fauci being a bad guy.

I'll go 50:50 on that post...

[PugMom]

Are you sure?? Fully vaccinated??? :popcorn:

but what if it was the vax antibodies that produced that result? is it possible?

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

"Thoughts and prayers" to anyone who *can* be vaccinated, *chooses* not to, gets COVID-19 and/or loses income or livelihood as a result. Woops.

[golfing eagles]

but what if it was the vax antibodies that produced that result? is it possible?

Well, in this specific case he can't have "antibodies" from the vaccine since he was never vaccinated. Besides, the test is for COVID-19 antigen. But in general, I have the same question as to whether or not the vaccine response can result in false positives on the standard COVID test. For example, 3 out of 4 neighbors who were going on a trip were fully vaccinated but tested positive. Also there is the case of the NY Yankees. Yet the CDC breakthrough rate is only 0.008%, which would totally conflict with the anecdotal info. I could find anything by a (reliable, not conspiracy theory) source.

[Nucky]

Yes the PGA stated that. And no percentage on caddies given. What are they all thinking?????

The same thing as the majority of the people in the service one of whom I'm extremely close with. He told me that as soon as it's fully approved he'll get the shot. What can I tell you? I did my best to raise him properly and once he is 3 times 7 I guess I have to accept his decisions. Even if I think he's lost his mind, temporarily.

When they go to boot camp they get shots for things they don't have a clue about they are for. Why say no to the Covid shot?

Just for the record. I don't judge anyone else about their decision on the Vaccination. They are none of my business. I guess my son is really none of my business either at this point. I'm proud of him in many other categories in life but this one, I DUNNOOOO! :pray:

[dewilson58]

but what if it was the vax antibodies that produced that result? is it possible?

Anything is possible and everything on ToTV is true.

:MOJE_whot:

[JGVillages]

Long term effects of vaccine still bothers people. It could make him sterile or worse make him 3 putt a lot!🤪🤪🤪

[Regor]

You pay to insure your car, home and life. Why not insure your health? It's free!

[justjim]

That great philosopher Andy Rooney said this: “People will generally accept facts as truth only if the facts agree with what they already believe”. Perhaps that is why we have conspiracy theories that pop up on TOTV from time to time. 1.674 million is what John Rahm might have won if he hadn’t tested positive for Covid on this past Saturday. That is a fact.

[asianthree]

So Rahm tested positive, and still was playing golf, and doing well. Good for him showing no effects, and still continued to play.

[walterray1]

Wow, the original post was about Jon Rahm I thought. Response after response from online experts about this that and the other thing. Regardless of your personal position on vaccines, masks, science and politics it was very hard to see him told on live tv about his positive test. A little compassion and understanding would be good.

[HeleneGB]

He had not been vaccinated which is why they were testing him every day. No sympathy for him. He should have gotten vaccinated.

[thevillages2013]

Walks of. the 18th green Saturday leading by six strokes, met by officials who advise he has tested positive for Corona Virus. He is forced to withdraw from tournament.
He had already been vaccinated for Covid.
It is totally asinine that they are testing them at all. Are they testing all the fans that come to the tournaments?

[DaleDivine]

Wow, the original post was about Jon Rahm I thought. Response after response from online experts about this that and the other thing. Regardless of your personal position on vaccines, masks, science and politics it was very hard to see him told on live tv about his positive test. A little compassion and understanding would be good.
Agree, they could have told him in private.
:ohdear::ohdear:

[Two Bills]

The whole mask, vaccination, distancing situation is out of control in many respects.
I could never understand tv commentators out in the open air, wearing a mask, when no other person was near.
Could hardly understand a word they said.
Total nonsense!

[jedalton]

Walks of. the 18th green Saturday leading by six strokes, met by officials who advise he has tested positive for Corona Virus. He is forced to withdraw from tournament.
He had already been vaccinated for Covid.

no, he got vaccinated when informed of the contact. too late then

[Girlcopper]

Are you sure?? Fully vaccinated??? :popcorn:
Just proof for some naysayers....you can get covid after the vaccine. Thats been reported millions of times

[golfing eagles]

Just proof for some naysayers....you can get covid after the vaccine. Thats been reported millions of times


For the TEN THOUSANDTH TIME, NO YOU CAN"T!!!!!
The breakthrough rate is 0.008%, which represents 5,318 cases out of the first 85,000,000 fully vaccinated, NOT "millions" And you consider one individual , asymptomatic, that tested positive a few days after 1 dose of the vaccine "proof" that you can get COVID after vaccination. Thank God you're not a scientist on this project.

[lahamm69]

walks of. The 18th green saturday leading by six strokes, met by officials who advise he has tested positive for corona virus. He is forced to withdraw from tournament.
He had already been vaccinated for covid.

fake news

[nick demis]

Next will be if you prove positive to the flue or the common cold.
He wouldn't be in close contact for 1 more day with anyone he hadn't been with for the past week.
I'm surprised they didn't seal him in a bubble suit and cart him away.

[SERENITY52]

Walks of. the 18th green Saturday leading by six strokes, met by officials who advise he has tested positive for Corona Virus. He is forced to withdraw from tournament.
He had already been vaccinated for Covid.
Very sad state of affairs!!!!!

[J1ceasar]

The initial two vaccines that were approved had an 88% effective rate and a 95% effective rate. However when I find strange is that as a golfer he certainly do not have to be anywhere near any other golfer to play the sport with the exception of his caddy. Here's a guy who lost out on one and a half million dollars roughly for really no reason except politics

[J1ceasar]

Sorry to say I don't know where you got your statistics but the actual test rates when the first 30,000 were done for each vaccine Where 88% and 95%. I can quote where I got where did you get yours? And by the way the j&j statistics are much much less

[jbrown132]

Here’s is the story. He had been notified that he had been in the company of someone who had tested positive for COVID. Upon hearing this he was tested for COVID and tested negative. This was on Wednesday. He then received his first shot of the vaccine. He tested negative again on Thursday. On Friday he positive. Under the PGA protocol the ran the test again on the sample he given Friday to make sure it was not a false positive. On Saturday while he was on the course the test came back positive again. As he walked off the course he was met by the PGA doctor who informed him of the second positive test. This is when Rahm said not again. They said that the vaccine shot he had received did not have enough time to give him immunity.

[Byte1]

It was interesting to see that after they informed him and prepared to escort him off the green, he was surrounded by several guys and hugged. Obviously, those folks that hugged him and closely escorted him from the course, were NOT concerned about contagion. It was just an observation. I would not have been concerned either, considering I've had my vaccination and I am sure they probably had theirs also. If so, it seems like the rules are a bit outdated. Just my opinion, but it seems hardly necessary to remove the guy, if he has no observable symptoms and the majority of folks are either too far distanced to be exposed or have already been immunized. I do realize that one can be asymptomatic and contagious, but like I said what is the chance that anyone was in danger of being infected at this point? Just my observation, since I have not shared the same hysteria and panic others seem to allow to rule their life.

[GaryKoca]

I have 1,674,000 reasons why he should have been vaccinated. The winning purse for the tournament. And he got zero.

[Beyond The Wall]

This is a special kind of stupid!
Tired of this crap!
Wrong on so many levels.
Playing outside…in the wind….
Others in group had immunity. They were okay with him continuing .
He was a symptomatic .
What the test set at? Should have gotten second test.
Bottom line….someone wanted him out of tournament. He should sue

[justjim]

Here’s is the story. He had been notified that he had been in the company of someone who had tested positive for COVID. Upon hearing this he was tested for COVID and tested negative. This was on Wednesday. He then received his first shot of the vaccine. He tested negative again on Thursday. On Friday he positive. Under the PGA protocol the ran the test again on the sample he given Friday to make sure it was not a false positive. On Saturday while he was on the course the test came back positive again. As he walked off the course he was met by the PGA doctor who informed him of the second positive test. This is when Rahm said not again. They said that the vaccine shot he had received did not have enough time to give him immunity.

Spot on. The PGA followed their policy protocol. Unfortunate for Jon Rahm. He has handled it well IMHO.

[Singerlady]

Walks of. the 18th green Saturday leading by six strokes, met by officials who advise he has tested positive for Corona Virus. He is forced to withdraw from tournament.
He had already been vaccinated for Covid.

Rumors. I heard he refused to be vaccinated hence……..we’ll not really know until he speaks about it…if ever.

[Jokomo]

Saddest part his parents are arriving from Spain he hasn't seen them in 2 years nor have they seen their grand baby

Nope. The saddest is that this was totally preventable, and it was 100% his choice. Some people won’t take yes for an answer.

[capecodbob]

Spot on. The PGA followed their policy protocol. Unfortunate for Jon Rahm. He has handled it well IMHO.

So, a guy with the China Virus plays what might be his greatest round of competitive golf. He feels fine too. Too bad he got the jab cuz he's all set now and didn't need to get the shot.
Got to wonder how many other golfers would take a mild dose of CV to shoot a career round of golf
And why couldn't the PGA let him play a final round by himself, with observers?

And when are those checks arriving from China to pay for what they did to the world?

[Indydealmaker]

Walks of. the 18th green Saturday leading by six strokes, met by officials who advise he has tested positive for Corona Virus. He is forced to withdraw from tournament.
He had already been vaccinated for Covid.

The last time I checked golf is played outside. No reason to worry about covid. Just don't kiss anybody.

[dewilson58]

Nope. The saddest is that this was totally preventable, and it was 100% his choice. Some people won’t take yes for an answer.

Interesting the PGA kept fans away, then allowed limited fans with masks.
This gave the appearance the players & caddies were clean and vaccinated.
My question, why let players play if not vaccinated??

$$$$$$

[christine J Toft]

Seriously, good for him? Possibly spreading the Virus. Money over possibly the lives of others. Great choice?

[BigHoss18]

So Rahm tested positive, and still was playing golf, and doing well. Good for him showing no effects, and still continued to play.

Here’s what gets my goat. If Rahm’s positive test was so freaking critical, why did they let him continue playing!!!?

They should have immediately pulled him from competition and not allowed him to potentially expose hundreds (thousands?) of peers, officials, fans, etc.

To me, it lessens the importance of the test and risk because the PGA allowed Rahm to play through 18 THEN pull him from the tournament.

[JMintzer]

Just proof for some naysayers....you can get covid after the vaccine. Thats been reported millions of times

No, he was vaccinated AFTER contact with someone who had it...

He most like already had it when vaccinated, but was asymptomatic...

[JMintzer]

The initial two vaccines that were approved had an 88% effective rate and a 95% effective rate. However when I find strange is that as a golfer he certainly do not have to be anywhere near any other golfer to play the sport with the exception of his caddy. Here's a guy who lost out on one and a half million dollars roughly for really no reason except politics

And you know his lack of vaccination was political how?

[JMintzer]

Here’s is the story. He had been notified that he had been in the company of someone who had tested positive for COVID. Upon hearing this he was tested for COVID and tested negative. This was on Wednesday. He then received his first shot of the vaccine. He tested negative again on Thursday. On Friday he positive. Under the PGA protocol the ran the test again on the sample he given Friday to make sure it was not a false positive. On Saturday while he was on the course the test came back positive again. As he walked off the course he was met by the PGA doctor who informed him of the second positive test. This is when Rahm said not again. They said that the vaccine shot he had received did not have enough time to give him immunity.

Prezactly!

[karostay]

Rules are rules don't like em don't play

[Rodneysblue]

Walks of. the 18th green Saturday leading by six strokes, met by officials who advise he has tested positive for Corona Virus. He is forced to withdraw from tournament.
He had already been vaccinated for Covid.
Just putting this out there. He’s outside participating in a non contract sport while maintaining social distancing.

[OhioBuckeye]

Walks of. the 18th green Saturday leading by six strokes, met by officials who advise he has tested positive for Corona Virus. He is forced to withdraw from tournament.
He had already been vaccinated for Covid.

I was just sick when I heard that. He plays 3 days except hole 18 on the 3rd day & then they can him from the tournament. When they tested him & everyone else on the first day, why everyday of the tournament, heck some people get tested once when they go into a store so why didn’t they test every person into a store everyday afterwards. They should of left his score stand & like it ended up nobody shot -17. What would they of done if several players tested positive (say 5,6, 7 or 8) canceled the tournament! At least Rahm was a good sport about it. What a shame!

[JMintzer]

Rules are rules don't like em don't play

The rules keep changing...

[Proveone]

Do some research - Rahm was not vaccinated! I heard he is an anti-vaxxer. If so, serves him right!

[jimkerr]

He did know the PGA rules and took a gamble. Unfortunately, he lost.

[JSR22]

He gambled away 1.7 million. A very expensive lesson.
Hopefully, the other players and caddies will get vaccinated.

[Byte1]

Proof of mass hysteria. Also proof that they have no common sense OR there was someone there that was out to get him.

[Nordhagen]

Should have let him continue by playing by himself. He’s already been in close contact with his caddie. He obviously wasn’t too sick to play.

[nevjudbaker]

Walks of. the 18th green Saturday leading by six strokes, met by officials who advise he has tested positive for Corona Virus. He is forced to withdraw from tournament.
He had already been vaccinated for Covid.
If he had been exposed to Covid on May 29th he should have been quarantined for 14 days. He never should have been able to play in that tournament in the first place. Now who has he exposed??!!

[Spalumbos62]

I feel bad for him, but ... my understanding, not confirmed other than by golfing eagles, is that he had not been vaccinated.

If that’s the case, why not??

When he was informed of the positive test, I heard him say “not again”. Does that mean he had tested positive previously, or that he had COVID before? I don’t know. I do have questions.

Sadly, he left a lot of money out on the golf course.


Sorry to say but this is what all the nonvaxers have to look forward to. You wanna get on that boat? You wanna play sports? You wanna go see sports....gotta get the vac. If this is what will open their eyes, so be it.

[Byte1]

Sorry to say but this is what all the nonvaxers have to look forward to. You wanna get on that boat? You wanna play sports? You wanna go see sports....gotta get the vac. If this is what will open their eyes, so be it.

New's break: A cruise line will not be requiring vaccination for it's cruises. I believe it's Royal Caribbean that will NOT be requiring proof of vaccination.

[La lamy]

Such a pity for him, but it sure made it more of a dramatic ending with the tie.

[golfing eagles]

Sorry to say I don't know where you got your statistics but the actual test rates when the first 30,000 were done for each vaccine Where 88% and 95%. I can quote where I got where did you get yours? And by the way the j&j statistics are much much less

And I'll be happy to quote where I got mine----THE CDC----good enough for you??????

You are confusing the efficacy rate from the clinical trials with the real world breakthrough rate post mass vaccinations. They are NOT the same thing

"Rare breakthroughs
Of the more than 95 million people in the United States who were fully vaccinated, only 9,245 — or 0.01 percent — have been infected with the coronavirus as of April 26, according to the CDC. Just over a quarter of those people never had symptoms; 132 people, or 1 percent of the breakthrough infections, died. Twenty of those deaths were in asymptomatic people or probably not related to COVID-19."

[tuccillo]

People continue to get this wrong. It is probably not their fault because the way the statistics were presented could have been better and most people probably do not understand how to interpret the statistics. What was presented from the Phase 3 trials for Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna was an efficacy of about 95%. This number, which is statistically significant, is the ratio of the number of positive cases from the test (vaccine) group and the number of positive cases from the control (placebo) group. Each group had about 20,000 participants. The efficacy represents the reduction in the probability that you will develop the disease if you are exposed and vaccinated when compared to someone who was exposed and not vaccinated. 95% is a factor of 20x. In other words, your probability of developing the disease if exposed and you are vaccinated is reduced by a factor of 20x when compared to someone who is exposed and not vaccinated.

The actual percentage of positive cases for the test (vaccine) group for the Pfizer Phase 3 trial was about 0.04% (this is the test group breakthrough percentage during the Pfizer Phase 3 trial). The actual percentage of positive cases for the control (placebo) group for the Pfizer Phase 3 trial was about 0.8% (this is the control group "breakthrough" percentage during the Pfizer Phase 3 trial).

The J&J efficacy rate was less than the Pfizer and Moderna efficacy rates but you should not make comparisons. First of all, the purpose of the efficacy calculation is to determine if the vaccine is effective at what it is designed to do. Secondly, the populations of the Pfizer and Moderna trials were much different than the population of the J&J trials. Any attempt to compare the efficacy between trials with significantly different populations is going to have issues.

Essentially, all three vaccines are effective at preventing serious disease and death. While there are breakthrough cases, the probability of winding up in the hospital or dying is very remote if you are vaccinated. The latest CDC guidance reflects this. There are medical professionals who have suggested that you choose which vaccine to receive based on which one is more readily available where you live.

Sorry to say I don't know where you got your statistics but the actual test rates when the first 30,000 were done for each vaccine Where 88% and 95%. I can quote where I got where did you get yours? And by the way the j&j statistics are much much less

[conman5652@aol.com]

No. Decline the vaccine because he was told he didn’t need it. We that was a costly mistake on his part because he already had covid

[golfing eagles]

No. Decline the vaccine because he was told he didn’t need it. We that was a costly mistake on his part because he already had covid

What are you trying to say?

[Bertram00]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Why do people continue to post crap they know nothing about??????Because it's easier than doing any actual research?

Actually, because they are intent on perpetuating a false narrative to fit their wants, just like many discussing a lot of issues facing our country today.

[Joe V.]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Why do people continue to post crap they know nothing about??????

Actually, because they are intent on perpetuating a false narrative to fit their wants, just like many discussing a lot of issues facing our country today.

Such as?

[chet2020]

Proof of mass hysteria. Also proof that they have no common sense OR there was someone there that was out to get him.

Three other PGA golfers were disqualified from previous tournaments after testing positive for COVID-19, so I don't they were picking on Rahm.

[OhioBuckeye]

He did know the PGA rules and took a gamble. Unfortunately, he lost.

Jimkerr, who would of ever think like the article said, he had it checked everyday of the tour. who would of thought the very nexted day it would checked positive. But your right he knew what the rules of the PGA. He knew that & he took it graciously!

[karostay]

All sports have become Bull s_ _T

[KYtoTV2021]

Walks of. the 18th green Saturday leading by six strokes, met by officials who advise he has tested positive for Corona Virus. He is forced to withdraw from tournament.
He had already been vaccinated for Covid.
Couldn't happen to a nicer guy! Two weeks ago, when Phil was leading after the Friday round, Rahm was asked what he thought about Phil playing so well. His response was something like "I don't know and I don't care". What a guy. Hard to root for this horse's butt.

[Byte1]

Three other PGA golfers were disqualified from previous tournaments after testing positive for COVID-19, so I don't they were picking on Rahm.

And they found it very important to disqualify him five minutes before he might have won the game? And then gather around him and hug him? I think I will have to call BS on that one.

[JSR22]

And they found it very important to disqualify him five minutes before he might have won the game? And then gather around him and hug him? I think I will have to call BS on that one.

There was another round on Suday to determine the winner. He gambled and lost over a million dollars by not getting vaccinated. Totally his fault.

[Bay Kid]

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy! Two weeks ago, when Phil was leading after the Friday round, Rahm was asked what he thought about Phil playing so well. His response was something like "I don't know and I don't care". What a guy. Hard to root for this horse's butt.

Karma got him.

[Viperguy]

Don't feel sorry for him, just stupid. What about his caddie? Wonder how he feels?