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Bob S
06-08-2021, 08:32 AM
I own 2 Yamaha Drive gas carts - a 2010 and a 2017 Quietech. It seems the older cart requires much less service. It is a project to even replace a battery on the Quietech carts. You need to remove the bag well and left side body panel.
How about a discussion as to which year Yamaha was the best?

jpvillager
06-08-2021, 03:06 PM
I am sticking with my 2010.

Road-Runner
06-08-2021, 03:25 PM
We just ordered a remanufactured 2019 so hoping it was a good year and for how much we're paying hopefully will outlast me!

Topspinmo
06-08-2021, 04:15 PM
I own 2 Yamaha Drive gas carts - a 2010 and a 2017 Quietech. It seems the older cart requires much less service. It is a project to even replace a battery on the Quietech carts. You need to remove the bag well and left side body panel.
How about a discussion as to which year Yamaha was the best?


2012 1/2 fuel injected. Battery-piece of cake, oil change 10 mins., 12K miles 1 tie rod replaced, set belts, and two tires. Belts wasn’t gone yet, tire I ruined running rear pressure too low.

dewilson58
06-08-2021, 05:21 PM
We just ordered a remanufactured 2019 so hoping it was a good year and for how much we're paying hopefully will outlast me!

Great Year!!!

dewilson58
06-08-2021, 05:22 PM
Wasn't 2017 the first year for Qtech??
Never buy the first couple of years of "new stuff".

Like, don't buy the first year of the new Vette. :ohdear:

DARFAP
06-08-2021, 06:33 PM
2012 1/2 fuel injected. Battery-piece of cake, oil change 10 mins., 12K miles 1 tie rod replaced, set belts, and two tires. Belts wasn’t gone yet, tire I ruined running rear pressure too low.

I had one of these but it got stolen. Was that you?

l2ridehd
06-09-2021, 04:54 AM
I replaced a battery on my 2018 quietech and it was a pull out drop in. No panels removed. I do say though, my 2010 just takes a licking and keeps on ticking. Lots of miles and done almost nothing but change the oil and new tires. Over 30,000 miles.

Catalina36
06-09-2021, 05:04 AM
I have a Yamaha 2015 Fuel injected and a 2014 Carb model, both run excellent. For you owners like me who are new to the Villages.
I could not understand why Owners would go to The Villages Golf Cart Center in Sumter Landing to purchase gas when the prices are higher then most gas stations in the area. Very Simple Answer. They are selling gas with NO ETHANOL. Ethanol will clog up your fuel system especially the older carb models. I think it is worth the slightly higher price for No Ethanol gasoline. Any comments?

jedalton
06-09-2021, 05:38 AM
I have a 2013 rebuilt in 2017 and love it. Willie does all the maintenance on it and very few repairs other than yearly maintenance. Have replaced battery, drive belt and turn signal flasher.

Dantes
06-09-2021, 05:53 AM
Ethanol doesn’t clog fuel lines they are made to run on it
Ethanol is a corrosive if you don’t not have stainless steel lines and the correct seals it will damage them
All modern vehicles are made to run on alcohol

jarodrig
06-09-2021, 06:14 AM
I have a Yamaha 2015 Fuel injected and a 2014 Carb model, both run excellent. For you owners like me who are new to the Villages.
I could not understand why Owners would go to The Villages Golf Cart Center in Sumter Landing to purchase gas when the prices are higher then most gas stations in the area. Very Simple Answer. They are selling gas with NO ETHANOL. Ethanol will clog up your fuel system especially the older carb models. I think it is worth the slightly higher price for No Ethanol gasoline. Any comments?

Look at your manual …..

Yamaha recommends REGULAR UNLEADED fuel containing no more than 10 % ethanol…..

However, if it makes you feel better paying more for “recreational” fuel , go for it ! However, your cart won’t know the difference !!

noslices1
06-09-2021, 06:19 AM
I own 2 Yamaha Drive gas carts - a 2010 and a 2017 Quietech. It seems the older cart requires much less service. It is a project to even replace a battery on the Quietech carts. You need to remove the bag well and left side body panel.
How about a discussion as to which year Yamaha was the best?

I recently traded in my 2014 Yamaha gas for a 2020 Quietech. The new one is much quieter as it is supposed to be, bu the ride is so much better also. Independent suspension, self cancelling turn signals, much larger cooler, high and low beam headlight, LED trim lights. Much more enjoyable to drive. When it comes time to replace the battery, I’ll be able to do it myself, but that will be a few years from now.

DaleDivine
06-09-2021, 06:20 AM
I have a Yamaha 2015 Fuel injected and a 2014 Carb model, both run excellent. For you owners like me who are new to the Villages.
I could not understand why Owners would go to The Villages Golf Cart Center in Sumter Landing to purchase gas when the prices are higher then most gas stations in the area. Very Simple Answer. They are selling gas with NO ETHANOL. Ethanol will clog up your fuel system especially the older carb models. I think it is worth the slightly higher price for No Ethanol gasoline. Any comments?
Non-Ethanol gas is probably cheaper at the Marathon stations in Lake Deaton and Pinellas Plaza.
:ho::ho:

RoadToad
06-09-2021, 06:20 AM
I have a Yamaha 2015 Fuel injected and a 2014 Carb model, both run excellent. For you owners like me who are new to the Villages.
I could not understand why Owners would go to The Villages Golf Cart Center in Sumter Landing to purchase gas when the prices are higher then most gas stations in the area. Very Simple Answer. They are selling gas with NO ETHANOL. Ethanol will clog up your fuel system especially the older carb models. I think it is worth the slightly higher price for No Ethanol gasoline. Any comments?

It's cheaper at WAWA..
Same stuff.

mrf6969
06-09-2021, 06:26 AM
Look at your manual …..

Yamaha recommends REGULAR UNLEADED fuel containing no more than 10 % ethanol…..

However, if it makes you feel better paying more for “recreational” fuel , go for it ! However, your cart won’t know the difference !!
True, This was really more of an issue for those that own carbureted carts.

RoadToad
06-09-2021, 06:28 AM
Look at your manual …..

Yamaha recommends REGULAR UNLEADED fuel containing no more than 10 % ethanol…..

However, if it makes you feel better paying more for “recreational” fuel , go for it ! However, your cart won’t know the difference !!

Unless the cart sets for a few months unused.
The Ethanol fuel has a longevity issue.
It's corn based content causes browning and settleling of particales when it ages.
Use whichever suits the situation.
As a snowbird, we use non-ethanol to avoid the issue.

mrf6969
06-09-2021, 06:28 AM
Non-Ethanol gas is probably cheaper at the Marathon stations in Lake Deaton and Pinellas Plaza.
:ho::ho:
Not really. WAWA used to be the cheapest in the area and they now are about the same as the golf cart stores.

mrf6969
06-09-2021, 06:41 AM
We have 3 Yamahas, 2007,2011, and a 2017. 2007 and 2010 are bullet proof. Just normal maintenance on those. Hard to believe but the 2011 is running the original tires as we keep a consistent 22 lbs in them. Only issue so far on the 2017 is we have had the rear/secondary clutch component replaced last year under warranty. Because of the quietness, nice ride of the new suspension and those cushy seats, the 2017 goes out of the garage much more often.

Larchap49
06-09-2021, 06:47 AM
Look at your manual …..

Yamaha recommends REGULAR UNLEADED fuel containing no more than 10 % ethanol…..

However, if it makes you feel better paying more for “recreational” fuel , go for it ! However, your cart won’t know the difference !!

True they are made for ethanol but any veh using ethanol will accumulate water in the tank over time so I recommend using an additive that will help get it to dissipate and get burned with the fuel. Also non ethanol fuel has a higher octane rating so your cart may very well know the difference. I have had a few mowers, weed eaters and blowers that had the fuel lines inside the gas tank deteriorate due to ethanol even though they were supposed to be compatible. It's non ethanol in any small engine and my boat at all times.

tuccillo
06-09-2021, 06:56 AM
Doubtful. Yamaha golf carts have a low compression engine (about 8:1 compression) and the 87 octane of regular fuel is sufficient to prevent pre-ignition. Using fuel with a higher octane than is required does not have any benefits.

True they are made for ethanol but any veh using ethanol will accumulate water in the tank over time so I recommend using an additive that will help get it to dissipate and get burned with the fuel. Also non ethanol fuel has a higher octane rating so your cart may very well know the difference. I have had a few mowers, weed eaters and blowers that had the fuel lines inside the gas tank deteriorate due to ethanol even though they were supposed to be compatible. It's non ethanol in any small engine and my boat at all times.

jimkerr
06-09-2021, 08:04 AM
I have a 2022 ordered. Hopefully they fixed some of the issues that have been bothering us customers.

Kgcetm
06-09-2021, 08:14 AM
I have a 2014 gas which has been to the shop once a year for oil changes. My wife had a 2017 which made 27 trips to service before we bought the 2021. Brakes squeak on the 2021 and Yahama can’t provide the part for the fix for the past 3 months.

My experience says you’re right.

Topspinmo
06-09-2021, 08:20 AM
I had one of these but it got stolen. Was that you?

How do I know you didn’t steal you’re? :)

No, got my recipe from original owner, bill of sale, listed $13, 995 bucks. I have GPS attacker on mine hid, they steal mine I will know exactly where it is. And good luck trying for find it.

Topspinmo
06-09-2021, 08:23 AM
I have a Yamaha 2015 Fuel injected and a 2014 Carb model, both run excellent. For you owners like me who are new to the Villages.
I could not understand why Owners would go to The Villages Golf Cart Center in Sumter Landing to purchase gas when the prices are higher then most gas stations in the area. Very Simple Answer. They are selling gas with NO ETHANOL. Ethanol will clog up your fuel system especially the older carb models. I think it is worth the slightly higher price for No Ethanol gasoline. Any comments?

Only if let cart set for months.

Topspinmo
06-09-2021, 08:28 AM
Doubtful. Yamaha golf carts have a low compression engine (about 8:1 compression) and the 87 octane of regular fuel is sufficient to prevent pre-ignition. Using fuel with a higher octane than is required does not have any benefits.

Lawn mower engine will run on any octane, but, agree why waste money higher octane gas for lawn mower engine.

TSO/ISPF
06-09-2021, 08:47 AM
I have a Yamaha 2015 Fuel injected and a 2014 Carb model, both run excellent. For you owners like me who are new to the Villages.
I could not understand why Owners would go to The Villages Golf Cart Center in Sumter Landing to purchase gas when the prices are higher then most gas stations in the area. Very Simple Answer. They are selling gas with NO ETHANOL. Ethanol will clog up your fuel system especially the older carb models. I think it is worth the slightly higher price for No Ethanol gasoline. Any comments?

Marathon in Pinnellas has recreational gas. I think there are a few other stations around as well. Last time I was there they were getting 3.35 a gallon, I believe.

Scbang
06-09-2021, 08:52 AM
This is a trick question since I have the audience. I have 2014 Yamaha that has 4 bad tire stems ( Gauges don't read pressure ). If I install an extension, would it fix the problem or I would still have the same problem?

Road-Runner
06-09-2021, 09:34 AM
This is a trick question since I have the audience. I have 2014 Yamaha that has 4 bad tire stems ( Gauges don't read pressure ). If I install an extension, would it fix the problem or I would still have the same problem?

Sounds like a problem with your gauge? If they're holding air the stems are doing what they should, perhaps find a different gauge that fits your stems better?

Hiltongrizz11
06-09-2021, 10:02 AM
Marathon in Pinnellas has recreational gas. I think there are a few other stations around as well. Last time I was there they were getting 3.35 a gallon, I believe.


What is with you know it all's? There is no such thing as RECREATIONAL GAS. For that to be true there would have to be NON RECREATIONAL gas.

Wow. Gas is gas and it has ethanol or not. Ethanol will pull moisture out of the air and. CAN create issues if you let it set for months. It's not a guarantee!

My gosh just put the gas in that's close to you and treat it with startron if it's going to set. Same with a mower or anything else that uses gas.

Recreational gas.....nerds. this isn't a NASCAR circuit

Markers333
06-09-2021, 10:20 AM
I own 2 Yamaha Drive gas carts - a 2010 and a 2017 Quietech. It seems the older cart requires much less service. It is a project to even replace a battery on the Quietech carts. You need to remove the bag well and left side body panel.
How about a discussion as to which year Yamaha was the best?
Best solution = Club Car

mrf6969
06-09-2021, 11:24 AM
Marathon in Pinnellas has recreational gas. I think there are a few other stations around as well. Last time I was there they were getting 3.35 a gallon, I believe.
Yep, same price at The Villages Golf Cart Stores.

Topspinmo
06-09-2021, 11:25 AM
Best solution = Club Car

Had CC Ceeeeap.

Topspinmo
06-09-2021, 11:32 AM
Sounds like a problem with your gauge? If they're holding air the stems are doing what they should, perhaps find a different gauge that fits your stems better?

Agree think it his gauge also, Some gauges the head swivels which makes it harder to get seal and gauge to read properly, some gauge’s are just cheap and inaccurate.

willbush
06-09-2021, 11:45 AM
Love our 2010 - Everyone with newer ones having issues, none here and easy to maintain myself....

DAVES
06-09-2021, 01:07 PM
I have a Yamaha 2015 Fuel injected and a 2014 Carb model, both run excellent. For you owners like me who are new to the Villages.
I could not understand why Owners would go to The Villages Golf Cart Center in Sumter Landing to purchase gas when the prices are higher then most gas stations in the area. Very Simple Answer. They are selling gas with NO ETHANOL. Ethanol will clog up your fuel system especially the older carb models. I think it is worth the slightly higher price for No Ethanol gasoline. Any comments?

Yet another endless debate. Ethanol, in the US comes from corn. It has become a farm subsidy. As a fuel, it is more expensive than gasoline for potential energy. Ethanol actually burns cleaner than gasoline.

As far as gasoline. It is all the same. Actually it all flows through the same pipes. The difference is the detergent package added by the company-the brand. Based on my reading, I do not have any way to test it, Shell and Chevron have the best detergent packages in this area.

People also use their golf carts differently. People who go away for months at a time,
the fuel does go bad over time sitting in the tank.

We use Shell it is up to 10% ethanol at least that is what it says on the pump. Our cart is 9 years old and no problem.

DAVES
06-09-2021, 01:19 PM
Agree think it his gauge also, Some gauges the head swivels which makes it harder to get seal and gauge to read properly, some gauge’s are just cheap and inaccurate.

I had the same problem. While I have a compressor, I find it easier to use my bicycle hand pump. The chuck, since it is designed to lock onto the stem and most not only fit the Schrader valves, used on cars and golf carts but the presta valves used on some bikes. The bigger chuck is hard to use on fancy wheels on some, most golf carts.

The solution is simple and inexpensive. Buy valve stem extenders. Like $6.00 for four.
You thread it onto the typical short stems on golf carts and it is easy to fill the tire or check the pressure. I remove them as I do not want people stealing them.

A gauge that doesn't seal, first of all will not give you a proper reading and besides the air that leaks out will drop the pressure in the tire. You will need to pump it up.

OnInTwo
06-09-2021, 01:22 PM
2013 EFI Yamaha here with 30k+ miles. Do all my own work including engine oil changes and transaxle gear oil changes. So far replaced battery (twice,) replaced starter / generator, new muffler, new tie rod ends, new windshield, replaced burnout headlight bulbs, one set of rear tires, two sets of front tires and replaced drive belt. Overall, very pleased with cart. Only concern is wet friction brake inside transaxle wearing out. Very expensive repair because you have to remove transaxle and split the case to get at friction plates. Not sure you can get the parts anymore. Yamaha went back to drum brakes in later years. If anyone is considering used cart, I would recommend avoiding ones with this brake setup.

jimjamuser
06-09-2021, 02:12 PM
I have a Yamaha 2015 Fuel injected and a 2014 Carb model, both run excellent. For you owners like me who are new to the Villages.
I could not understand why Owners would go to The Villages Golf Cart Center in Sumter Landing to purchase gas when the prices are higher then most gas stations in the area. Very Simple Answer. They are selling gas with NO ETHANOL. Ethanol will clog up your fuel system especially the older carb models. I think it is worth the slightly higher price for No Ethanol gasoline. Any comments?
Ethanol clogs up carburetors because it absorbs water, which mixes with the gas and makes a gum solution if the vehicle is left not running for a few weeks. Not sure if injector pressure can overcome a gummy situation?

mike1946
06-09-2021, 02:23 PM
I guess I'm a real cheapskate ...but I'm a Brit and we don't use as much time in a cart as regular folks when we came to the villages in 2002 I bought a re-manufactured Yamaha Gas 1999/2000 model G16 ...this old baby is still going reat I have it serviced every year when we come back and I did a 4 seat conversion on it with beefed up rear suspension and a new gearbox for a bit more speed all parts from Buggy's Unlimited ...It's still going fine and once we get it going after a summer layover she is very reliable ... we chose Yamaha Gas because we spotted that virtually every country club uses Yamaha Gas ....good recommendation ...I'm wondering whether to trade in made 20+ year old cart on our next trip ...or maybe not !!!

Bigbird59
06-09-2021, 03:19 PM
Please differentiate whether you are full time or park your cart for 6-8 months. Big difference in fuel usage and storage

Topspinmo
06-09-2021, 04:53 PM
2013 EFI Yamaha here with 30k+ miles. Do all my own work including engine oil changes and transaxle gear oil changes. So far replaced battery (twice,) replaced starter / generator, new muffler, new tie rod ends, new windshield, replaced burnout headlight bulbs, one set of rear tires, two sets of front tires and replaced drive belt. Overall, very pleased with cart. Only concern is wet friction brake inside transaxle wearing out. Very expensive repair because you have to remove transaxle and split the case to get at friction plates. Not sure you can get the parts anymore. Yamaha went back to drum brakes in later years. If anyone is considering used cart, I would recommend avoiding ones with this brake setup.

I too was concerned, when I changed my transaxle gear oil it had no brake wear dust in fluid. It actually pretty clean for 5 years and 9K miles.

I read on forums that the friction wet brakes rarely ever wear out, probably not enough weight to stop to wear them. Only problems was the cable stretching. Most UTVs and ATVs use the same braking system. Probably more expense than simple drum brakes.

Topspinmo
06-09-2021, 04:59 PM
Ethanol clogs up carburetors because it absorbs water, which mixes with the gas and makes a gum solution if the vehicle is left not running for a few weeks. Not sure if injector pressure can overcome a gummy situation?

There no fuel bowl in fuel injection. It clogs up carburetors cause the alcohol breaks down, tarnish fuel bowl needle and sticks in seat. Unleaded gas without ethanol will do the same thing but it takes much longer, yes water part of the problem.

KYtoTV2021
06-09-2021, 09:51 PM
We're are sure hoping that the 2022 models will be tops. We are in the process of ordering one from Carolyn @ Country Village Power Equipment in Webster. They are $1,000 less expensive than buying at The Villages. (Yamaha raised their prices $150 for 2022 models, but The Villages "passed along" a $700 markup!! I kid you not).

jimhurtt@twc.com
06-09-2021, 10:48 PM
Use Stabil in gas with ethanol. No problem. Don't use E-15 in anything.

jimhurtt@twc.com
06-09-2021, 10:50 PM
Never heard of an oil company that refines anything called "Yamaha" gasoline.

donfey
06-10-2021, 07:32 AM
Wawa has no-alcohol gas.

EviesGP
06-10-2021, 09:49 AM
What is with you know it all's? There is no such thing as RECREATIONAL GAS. For that to be true there would have to be NON RECREATIONAL gas.

Wow. Gas is gas and it has ethanol or not. Ethanol will pull moisture out of the air and. CAN create issues if you let it set for months. It's not a guarantee!

My gosh just put the gas in that's close to you and treat it with startron if it's going to set. Same with a mower or anything else that uses gas.

Recreational gas.....nerds. this isn't a NASCAR circuit

WE...are not using the word "Recreational Gas"! That's what Marathon calls it(on their sign)! And, I use them all the time, as I noticed they are about 30 cents cheaper than TV gas. And I'm not using Ethanol, as I've seen what they do to small engines.