View Full Version : Worried about losing power in hurricane season....worry no more!
rrufrano
06-10-2021, 01:33 PM
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PugMom
06-10-2021, 02:27 PM
not sure we are allowed to have these,
villagetinker
06-10-2021, 07:20 PM
not sure we are allowed to have these,
Yes we are, get arc approval and appropriate permits, for some reason I do not understand I have 2 or more neighbors with these. Our power never failed during IRMA and in the 8 years we have lived here I can count to outages on one hand with only one as i recall lasting more than 10 minutes.
Papa_lecki
06-10-2021, 07:34 PM
Yes we are, get arc approval and appropriate permits, for some reason I do not understand I have 2 or more neighbors with these. Our power never failed during IRMA and in the 8 years we have lived here I can count to outages on one hand with only one as i recall lasting more than 10 minutes.
Infrastructure is underground and less than 15 to 25 years old in most of TV. It shouldn’t fail
Stu from NYC
06-10-2021, 07:58 PM
Seems like an unnecessary purchase
village dreamer
06-10-2021, 08:16 PM
and whats it power with? lp ? oil ? how long can it run......1000 gal, lp or oil tank??
Velvet
06-10-2021, 08:40 PM
Generac generators are wonderful but like all generators relatively noisy. And standby generators need to run weekly for a short period of time. With houses so close to each other that could be a problem. Perhaps a small portable inverter like those used for RVs?
Nucky
06-10-2021, 09:14 PM
Should have cruised through the Historic Division after Irma. I'm not going to change your mind or even try but I guess depending on where you live would sway your decision on the Generator thing.
I have one that will give us A/C, Refrigeration, and TV and Internet. That's if the Manufactured House doesn't blow away, God forbid.
Many people went an entire week with no electric. SAD, bad Duke. They have promised that things have been improved. We'll see.
Nucky
06-10-2021, 09:17 PM
Generac generators are wonderful but like all generators relatively noisy. And standby generators need to run weekly for a short period of time. With houses so close to each other that could be a problem. Perhaps a small portable inverter like those used for RVs?
You can stand next to a Generac and hardly hear it. They are the greatest. If I had a house and not a Manufactured Home I would get a Generac Pronto. Peace of mind is priceless.
When we do move it will be a house and it will be in the Historic Section only. :boxing2:
thevillages2013
06-11-2021, 05:00 AM
and whats it power with? lp ? oil ? how long can it run......1000 gal, lp or oil tank??
Natural gas or propane
thevillages2013
06-11-2021, 05:04 AM
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Did you get one installed ? You don’t say that in your OP. How much?
retiredguy123
06-11-2021, 05:17 AM
You can stand next to a Generac and hardly hear it. They are the greatest. If I had a house and not a Manufactured Home I would get a Generac Pronto. Peace of mind is priceless.
When we do move it will be a house and it will be in the Historic Section only. :boxing2:
I don't know what model you are referring to. But, last week, when we had a short power outage, I walked past a house with a Generac whole house unit. It was much noisier than the typical HVAC unit. I could hear it about half a block away. It was a relatively new unit, installed within the past 2 years.
Snowbug
06-11-2021, 05:36 AM
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We are total electric. Natural gas is not available.
J1ceasar
06-11-2021, 05:59 AM
Well my rich friend has one . Testes every weekend . Last year we had a transformer blow and yes his started right up . Then it blew it's circuitry in 30 minutes . Lots of cursING the next 24 hours till fixed.
seoulbrooks
06-11-2021, 06:00 AM
unnecessary purchase
eeroger
06-11-2021, 06:10 AM
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This works only if you have unlimited fuel, such as natural gas. There are several portions of TV who do not have this as an option. With propane, you may have only a day or two with limited power with a 250 gallon tank. Then try to get your tank refilled- GOOD LUCK! This was a neighbor's situation during Irma.
Viperguy
06-11-2021, 06:16 AM
Propane in the ground?...........lightening strikes are common. Just wondering
Girlcopper
06-11-2021, 06:22 AM
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What hurricanes? I havent seen any up here. So, why bother
KRMACK55
06-11-2021, 06:28 AM
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Why are you doing commercials ?
NotGolfer
06-11-2021, 06:30 AM
What hurricanes? I havent seen any up here. So, why bother
Were you here for Irma?? The "eye" went directly over FL and us. As for a generator, I don't know that one would be necessary, especially south of 466. We never lost power during the storm. Some people did have property damage, but most did not. LOTS of tree branches scattered around etc.
Malsua
06-11-2021, 06:38 AM
You can stand next to a Generac and hardly hear it. They are the greatest.
LOL.
I have had a 14kw on my NJ house since 2012 and I guess I have to agree. You can hardly hear it. That's because you can hardly hear anything at all due to the deafening sound of it!
That said, the house is sold this week, no more 747 next to the house when the power fails due to a gentle breeze blowing a leaf onto a power line 30 miles away! At our TV house, I'm going to get one of those EU2000 or similar invertor gensets. Enough to run the fridge and power some lights.
keepsake
06-11-2021, 06:45 AM
The 1800 rpm ones are 1/4 the volume of the cheaper 3600 rpm ones. If you want it to be reliable and run when you really need it -- don't get a generac. Gen- are known to fail when you need them most.
If you have the dough, get a solar with batteries. Very costly but makes zero noise. Lithium batteries last over ten years. They come from ChiCom manufacturers cause to make them is so toxic. US EPA won't allow manuf here in the USA.
No simple answers on a small parcel.
Up North
06-11-2021, 06:47 AM
Our whole-house Generac is running as we speak. We are up north and lost power at 5:30 last night. It's still out this morning. Our generator is very loud, just outside our bedroom window, but that background noise made for a good nights sleep. Thankfully we're very rural with no close neighbors to annoy.
Malsua
06-11-2021, 06:52 AM
The 1800 rpm ones are 1/4 the volume of the cheaper 3600 rpm ones. If you want it to be reliable and run when you really need it -- don't get a generac. Gen- are known to fail when you need them most.
There are 5 Generac standby on the street where my NJ house is. Over the space of about half a mile.
We get power outages fairly frequently, and once every two years, we get a multi-day one.
Not a single one of these Generacs has failed when we needed it most. In fact, mine ran for days after Sandy. I changed the oil two days in. I have literally had zero issues with it.
I also work with an Electrician who is a Kohler dealer but services all types of Standby gensets. He tells me he gets more calls on Generacs. I then asked him what's the proportion of calls on Kohler vs Generac? About the same because there are about 10x more Generacs than anything else.
retiredguy123
06-11-2021, 07:03 AM
What hurricanes? I havent seen any up here. So, why bother
Yes. A lot of people refer to hurricanes in The Villages. To be a hurricane, the sustained wind speed needs to be at least 75 MPH. There have been hurricanes "near" The Villages, but rarely does the wind speed get close to 75 MPH "in" The Villages.
retiredguy123
06-11-2021, 07:16 AM
Note that a whole house generator needs to be located at least 5 feet away from windows or doors. So, if the generator is 4 feet long, you need about 14 feet of exterior wall space that doesn't have a window or door. Those restrictions can make it impossible to install a generator on many Villages properties, especially villas.
Ptmckiou
06-11-2021, 07:16 AM
We had a 14W Kohler with auto start when power failed in Oregon. Extremely quiet. Next door neighbors couldn’t hear it running and houses were close. Our power was out 10 days for a forest fire on the mountain. Never failed. If I thought we needed one in TV I wouldn’t hesitate. However. I don’t hear the power fails much here. Maybe a portable to run the tv and refrigerator would be more practical here.
FUSSY LADY
06-11-2021, 08:08 AM
I have a total house Generac runs on natural gas, exercises once a week, I never hear it, but does give you piece of mind during hurricane season!
bobnyce
06-11-2021, 08:26 AM
I have a Honda EU 2800, very quiet. But, I also put in a direct link to my main box so that I do not need any extension cords. It has a protection lock out to prevent power feeding back to the lines. Just go to my main box and turn off or on anything except water heater and air conditioning. Runs on gas so I keep my cart full and one 5 gallon can. Used it once so far for a temporary outage. During Irma, our kind neighbor let us keep our fridge running. That convinced me to get one. Old Boy Scout - Be Prepared!
Alana33
06-11-2021, 09:04 AM
I purchased a 22W whole house Generac propane generator with auto transfer after Irma blew thru up here and left me without power for 10 days.
It has a 1000 lb tank and my propane supplier can remotely check and monitor the propane levels.
The tank sits above ground and generator is mounted on a slab.
It runs once a week for 5 minutes.
I haven't found it to be noisy. I barely hear it and it's about 20 ft. from my bedroom window.
My diesel generator at my home on St. Thomas, VI was louder.
I've experienced more outages up here in FL than anticipated so I'm happy to have it. I moved to Lady Lake, just outside the Villages, in Feb. 2017 prior to Irma.
It was my 1st time without a whole house generator in decades. Also the last.
I love having it, the peace of mind it gives me and having AC and a running internet, refrigerator and stove when there's an outage.
We have above ground electric utility poles in my neighborhood.
worahm
06-11-2021, 09:56 AM
How far from your house did they install your new generator?
Alana33
06-11-2021, 10:10 AM
Not far. It's alongside the fenced back yard.
15 feet from rear of house with transfer switch directly hooked into the meter.
The 1000 lb tank sits behind the generator along the fence as well.
LianneMigiano
06-11-2021, 10:40 AM
We've lived here 11 years and have lost power only twice (once for 5 MINUTES and another for 30 MINUTES). We did NOT lose power AT ALL during hurricane Irma. If you've got "money to burn" go ahead and do this, otherwise donate to some worthy cause.
JohnN
06-11-2021, 01:01 PM
I've been here 13 years and my power has not ever gone out.
I think I'll pass fixing a problem that I don't seem to have. Interesting though.
gator17
06-11-2021, 01:15 PM
I live in Pine Hills and we lose power all the time. We have installed a Generac whole house generator and it sits alongside the house behind the fence (yes, we are in one of the lucky neighborhoods that has fences.) We dropped the propane tank in the front yard with the pipe tunneled under the driveway. We also installed a gas stove since we now have gas! All approvals and permits were done by Trademark Electric of Ocala. Not a waste of money for us.
Nucky
06-11-2021, 01:31 PM
I don't know what model you are referring to. But, last week, when we had a short power outage, I walked past a house with a Generac whole house unit. It was much noisier than the typical HVAC unit. I could hear it about half a block away. It was a relatively new unit, installed within the past 2 years.
They most certainly have a major malfunction. Trust me they are amazingly quiet. They self-test themselves every month I think and I was standing next to the next doors neighbors unit having my water filters replaced and it wasn't even as loud as a push lawnmower with a 5 horsepower engine.
I'm speaking of a Generac that is stationary, hooked up to a propane tank that is underground. Generac also sells portable units that would be able to be heard a block away, no doubt.
retiredguy123
06-11-2021, 02:13 PM
They most certainly have a major malfunction. Trust me they are amazingly quiet. They self-test themselves every month I think and I was standing next to the next doors neighbors unit having my water filters replaced and it wasn't even as loud as a push lawnmower with a 5 horsepower engine.
I'm speaking of a Generac that is stationary, hooked up to a propane tank that is underground. Generac also sells portable units that would be able to be heard a block away, no doubt.
Not a portable unit. Here is what Generac says:
"The sound output for Generac model #7210 (24 KW) in dB(A) at 23 ft with generator operating at normal load is 67."
This is louder than most outside HVAC units.
Velvet
06-11-2021, 02:40 PM
I have a total house Generac runs on natural gas, exercises once a week, I never hear it, but does give you piece of mind during hurricane season!
You must be far away from it every time it runs, my lady.
davephan
06-12-2021, 06:28 AM
We moved to Florida in December and signed the paperwork in January to have a 24 KW natural gas whole house electric generator installed. There’s a long backlog to get the generator installed. The generator will be installed in mid July.
It’s not cheap to have a whole house electric generator installed. The cost is about $13,000. But if you worked hard in life, obtaining a high income job, and lived well below your means for decades, saving and carefully investing a lot of money for decades. Then spending that kind of money is not a problem in your retirement years, because you can’t take the money with you.
We planned on getting a whole house electric generator when we moved to Florida, during our four years of house hunting. We don’t want to risk putting up with possible long power outages. Sweltering without AC, and having everything in the refrigerator and freezer turned into garbage.
We have two AC units. One for the master bedroom suite and another for the rest of the house. So, we can limp by if one of the AC units fail.
We thought about buying a smaller gasoline generator. But storing many 5 gallon gasoline cans in the garage is not something we’d want to do, for safety reasons. If you owned a small, portable generator, you’d need a concrete slab installed, and a security cage, so it wouldn’t be stolen. Refilling the gasoline tank would be very unpleasant in pouring rain, hurricane force winds, possible debris blowing around that could hit you, and frequent lightning strikes.
The generator will be installed on the opposite side of the house from the master bedroom suite, so we won’t hear it much, when it runs.
The one concern I had was about the natural gas. If there’s a widespread electric outage, does this impact the pressure in the natural gas distribution system? The answer is, a widespread electric power outage doesn’t impact the natural gas pressure, because the natural gas pressure is maintained my very large generators that are powered by natural gas.
There’s a small risk of experiencing a natural gas outage if you were very unlucky, and a downed tree severed the natural gas distribution line.
A large buried propane tank is an option, but it would add another $4,000 to the cost of the system, and probably would never be needed.
The peace of mind that the whole house natural gas electric electric generator gives us is worth the cost to us, especially because we can easily afford the cost.
LG999
06-12-2021, 07:36 AM
You say gas is not available.
Some of us have gas stoves in our kitchens.
I have a gas stove.
MrFlorida
06-12-2021, 07:58 AM
Not needed here.
larrytx219
06-12-2021, 08:16 AM
Infrastructure is underground and less than 15 to 25 years old in most of TV. It shouldn’t fail
We get power outages due to problems many miles away from The Villages. Tavares gets frequent power outages that also take us out, for example. Our hurricane outage extended over a week, etc. A generator is a great investment for your safety and well being.
Carlsondm
06-12-2021, 08:36 AM
We trolls beneath the bridge have gas appliances. Estimate for a whole house generator was $7500. Nat gas operation. That is about the cost of my Honda 7000 up north. We are riding out a few seasons to see if it is really necessary.
In the meantime, we have a second small refrig in the garage and a portable generator to keep meds and some food safe. We have to store gasoline though. We can also keep a lot of drinks cold in the second refrigerator.
stadry
06-12-2021, 08:49 AM
2 neighbors have 7Kwatt standbys noise not an issue however neither is auto start
Snowbug
06-12-2021, 09:07 AM
You say gas is not available.
Some of us have gas stoves in our kitchens.
I have a gas stove.
We live in Bradford. No natural gas available there
FUSSY LADY
06-12-2021, 09:26 AM
No, it is between my den and bathroom, was in the den on my computer and did not hear it, knew it was running because I was notified on the computer!
FUSSY LADY
06-12-2021, 09:31 AM
If you pay cash they give you a good discount!
Velvet
06-12-2021, 10:11 AM
We moved to Florida in December and signed the paperwork in January to have a 24 KW natural gas whole house electric generator installed. There’s a long backlog to get the generator installed. The generator will be installed in mid July.
It’s not cheap to have a whole house electric generator installed. The cost is about $13,000. But if you worked hard in life, obtaining a high income job, and lived well below your means for decades, saving and carefully investing a lot of money for decades. Then spending that kind of money is not a problem in your retirement years, because you can’t take the money with you.
We planned on getting a whole house electric generator when we moved to Florida, during our four years of house hunting. We don’t want to risk putting up with possible long power outages. Sweltering without AC, and having everything in the refrigerator and freezer turned into garbage.
We have two AC units. One for the master bedroom suite and another for the rest of the house. So, we can limp by if one of the AC units fail.
We thought about buying a smaller gasoline generator. But storing many 5 gallon gasoline cans in the garage is not something we’d want to do, for safety reasons. If you owned a small, portable generator, you’d need a concrete slab installed, and a security cage, so it wouldn’t be stolen. Refilling the gasoline tank would be very unpleasant in pouring rain, hurricane force winds, possible debris blowing around that could hit you, and frequent lightning strikes.
The generator will be installed on the opposite side of the house from the master bedroom suite, so we won’t hear it much, when it runs.
The one concern I had was about the natural gas. If there’s a widespread electric outage, does this impact the pressure in the natural gas distribution system? The answer is, a widespread electric power outage doesn’t impact the natural gas pressure, because the natural gas pressure is maintained my very large generators that are powered by natural gas.
There’s a small risk of experiencing a natural gas outage if you were very unlucky, and a downed tree severed the natural gas distribution line.
A large buried propane tank is an option, but it would add another $4,000 to the cost of the system, and probably would never be needed.
The peace of mind that the whole house natural gas electric electric generator gives us is worth the cost to us, especially because we can easily afford the cost.
My emergency power outage kit:
I have a small RV type portable inverse generator weighs about 100 lb. it’s noise level is below 60 db so one can sleep beside it. We have driveways in TV and I can roll it out - it has wheels, 20ft from the house for carbon monoxide protection. It is clean and stored in the garage for emergency. The 25 ft extension cable to get in the house heavy gauge 4 outlet and then inside extensions for fridge and tv and fans and a couple of lights. Draws very little power, my AC would draw a lot, means lots of noise! 2 gas cans 5 gal each, a hand siphon if I need gas from car or golf cart. A generator tent rated for storm to be erected over it. And a strong spot light with batteries to see if I have to start it up at 3:00 am in total darkness and in the middle of one of our regular hurricane rain and wind. Cost about $1000 for everything. I pay more for my car insurance. Like with the car I hope I never have to use it. And because I am not physically particularly strong I got a generator with electric start button.
It’s not as convenient as the standby I have up north which kicks in automatically 3 seconds after the power goes out. But neither is it so noisy or expensive.
rjm1cc
06-12-2021, 02:32 PM
Run after midnight. With windows closed no one should hear.
Remember to do maintenance work.
rjm1cc
06-12-2021, 02:34 PM
You can stand next to a Generac and hardly hear it. They are the greatest. If I had a house and not a Manufactured Home I would get a Generac Pronto. Peace of mind is priceless.
When we do move it will be a house and it will be in the Historic Section only. :boxing2:
Mine is natural gas powered and yes it is noisy when you are outside. Might exceed county noise limits. Inside you might hear a humming sound.
Nucky
06-12-2021, 06:16 PM
Okay, I say Uncle. I know when I got caught lying. You got me. I can't believe the difference between what people consider loud. I guess why this is the reason this Forum exists to voice your point of view on an issue. Here is an interesting tidbit that came up when I Googlized Quietness of a Generac.
The Generac iQ2000 produces an estimated sound level of 62dB while the Westinghouse WH1000i comes in at about 59dB – quiet enough to stand next to and hold a conversation without trying to talk over the generator. I guess this must have been the one I was standing next to.
I'll try not to lie in the future, try!
rjm1cc
06-12-2021, 06:26 PM
Okay, I say Uncle. I know when I got caught lying. You got me. I can't believe the difference between what people consider loud. I guess why this is the reason this Forum exists to voice your point of view on an issue. Here is an interesting tidbit that came up when I Googlized Quietness of a Generac.
The Generac iQ2000 produces an estimated sound level of 62dB while the Westinghouse WH1000i comes in at about 59dB – quiet enough to stand next to and hold a conversation without trying to talk over the generator. I guess this must have been the one I was standing next to.
I'll try not to lie in the future, try!
If it was close to your neighbors lania and they wanted to beat the heat by living there they would not like the noise. So try and locate it as far from people/windows as possible. Maybe let you neighbor plug into your house will solve the problem.
Nucky
06-12-2021, 06:39 PM
If it was close to your neighbors lania and they wanted to beat the heat by living there they would not like the noise. So try and locate it as far from people/windows as possible. Maybe let you neighbor plug into your house will solve the problem.
Totally agree. Most of the people in my neighborhood have placed the unit in the optimum spot to be considerate of their neighbor, here in The Villages.
I had a 12,000 unit in N.J. It was worse than being without electricity. The noise from that baby was terrible. My Mother In Law lived with us and had breathing issues which were pretty severe. The Oxygen Concentrator and CPAP Machine were the primary reasons for the generator but she also needed heat in her area of the house.
I had it in the front of the house, the back of the house away from the house, I tried everything to bring all the worlds into happy alignment. Nothing worked. I put it in the backyard in the end because that the hardest place for someone to shut it off and get away with it or leave it running and disconnect at the last minute and make their escape. The neighborhood wasn't too great. Elizabeth N.J. Yikes. :1rotfl: Just kidding. It was wonderful! :pray:
Malsua
06-12-2021, 07:20 PM
Okay, I say Uncle. I know when I got caught lying. You got me. I can't believe the difference between what people consider loud. I guess why this is the reason this Forum exists to voice your point of view on an issue. Here is an interesting tidbit that came up when I Googlized Quietness of a Generac.
The Generac iQ2000 produces an estimated sound level of 62dB while the Westinghouse WH1000i comes in at about 59dB – quiet enough to stand next to and hold a conversation without trying to talk over the generator. I guess this must have been the one I was standing next to.
I'll try not to lie in the future, try!
Google is fine and all.
Here's my actual 14kw Generac that I started 20 minutes ago.
Generac 14kw - How loud? - YouTube (https://youtu.be/s0PCA2H3Kbs)
It's pretty loud. It's been on this pad since 2012, so I guess by that standard it's
an older one.
I would not bring that to either of our Villas although the newer one backs to a preserve so I could share the sounds with all the foxes, opossums, turtles and birds ;)
It will be mine for about until close, which should happen mid July.
Nucky
06-12-2021, 09:47 PM
Damn, Damn, Damn! Busted again. That's what I get for lying. I wonder how loud it is with the top closed and the microphone about 7 feet away?
If you could hear anything more than a slight buzzing in the house then:super: you get to wear the shirt with the S. :1rotfl::1rotfl:
No matter how you slice it the Generac is much quieter than a portable unit of equal strength. I am now finished lying. Onto the next dilemma. :1rotfl:
Malsua
06-13-2021, 04:49 AM
If you could hear anything more than a slight buzzing in the house then:super: you get to wear the shirt with the S. :1rotfl::1rotfl:
You can hear the generator from at least 1/4 mile away. In the house is no problem. Where's my shirt?
WindyCityzen
06-13-2021, 08:28 AM
Gas I presume.
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