Character at Squares

[Davonu]

Have any of you seen the guy, usually at Spanish Springs, that carries around a baton and dances solo to the music? I don't want to sound too harsh here, but personally I'm annoyed by some of his "act". He may have some sort of issue that deserves tolerance, but part of his routine is to regularly let out screams during the music.

I can understand that the powers-that-be would be cautious to intervene regarding most of his behaviour, but the screams in my opinion cross the line. They are so loud and blood curdling that they are a distraction to the music and, especially if nearby and unanticipated, they are startling and even a bit scary.

Maybe everybody but me thinks it's cute. Again, part of me has sympathy for the gentleman. His dancing alone would likely be just another curiosity at the square. But I simply don't think the extreme part of his antics...the screaming...should be tolerated.

Okay. I've vented.

[billlaur]

Dont go there if you get annoyed:pray::pray:

[Topspinmo]

Lots of (c—-/drunks) characters at the squares, it’s magnet. Some even make headlines in online tabloid.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

He's not a drunk. We call him "backpack man." He's definitely exuberant, I think that's the word I'd use. A little eccentric, but he's actually a very nice man, has a joy of life you don't see much. And yeah sometimes he'll get a little over-enthused with certain songs and do the "one two three!" loud enough to be heard on the other side of the square. The baton was given to him by a fan. The largest thing in his backpack is a gallon of water, which he pours into a cup and drinks from while he's there.

He comes almost every night, and says that his dancing is how he keeps fit (and it you'd actually get a look at him - he's very fit).

Most people just assume he's a little crazy and avoid him but some folks actually take a few moments out of their lives to talk to him and learn better.

[stanley]

He's not a drunk. We call him "backpack man." He's definitely exuberant, I think that's the word I'd use. A little eccentric, but he's actually a very nice man, has a joy of life you don't see much. And yeah sometimes he'll get a little over-enthused with certain songs and do the "one two three!" loud enough to be heard on the other side of the square. The baton was given to him by a fan. The largest thing in his backpack is a gallon of water, which he pours into a cup and drinks from while he's there.

He comes almost every night, and says that his dancing is how he keeps fit (and it you'd actually get a look at him - he's very fit).

Most people just assume he's a little crazy and avoid him but some folks actually take a few moments out of their lives to talk to him and learn better.


Yep a nice guy if you get to know him. He has a way with the ladies also believe it or not.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Yep a nice guy if you get to know him. He has a way with the ladies also believe it or not.

How about that - Backpack man manages to get two people who are diametrically opposed to each other in every other way, to agree on something.

Y'all who have a problem with Backpack Man are sad. This guy, for all his hollers and hoots, is a man who wants to spread love. If you can't accept it, don't come to the square.

[Davonu]

Again, I will say just one more time and then leave this thread alone…

I have no problem with the gentleman…that’s what I called him in my op…except for the screaming. The screaming is not cute in any way.

Those of you who condescendingly advise to simply not go the square are far more annoying that he is.

[Topspinmo]

He's not a drunk. We call him "backpack man." He's definitely exuberant, I think that's the word I'd use. A little eccentric, but he's actually a very nice man, has a joy of life you don't see much. And yeah sometimes he'll get a little over-enthused with certain songs and do the "one two three!" loud enough to be heard on the other side of the square. The baton was given to him by a fan. The largest thing in his backpack is a gallon of water, which he pours into a cup and drinks from while he's there.

He comes almost every night, and says that his dancing is how he keeps fit (and it you'd actually get a look at him - he's very fit).


Most people just assume he's a little crazy and avoid him but some folks actually take a few moments out of their lives to talk to him and learn better.


My opinion of squares in general, as long s he don’t make headline news not in my generalization category.

[jswirs]

Doesn't bother me at all, in fact, I enjoy his antics, screaming included. Live & let live brother.

[collegeref]

Mark is a great guy. And you can keep an eye on him ������.
You can’t keep an eye on the murderers that come to Spanish Springs kill our youth
and get away with it. I would bet that if Mark was there that night that Brice and Metcalfe murdered Austin Stevens the later would be alive today. Don’t go.

[TandHSTAR@AOL.com]

Who are these powers to be that you refer to? You? Have you heard the word tolerance. Try it. I like watching him and he has obviously made many friends because I see them talking with him. How many friends have you made down at the square.

[Kgcetm]

Yes. I’ve seen him. If you find him offensive, don’t go. We have three squares and Edna’s from which to choose.

[Professor]

We avoid SS most of the time because of this guy. We believe he has some mental health issues, having regular exposure to such things in our daily life. If he crosses the line someday and someone gets hurt when he goes off the rails, everyone will wonder why someone didn't help this individual. Mental health has long been shuttered to a back closet in this country...something to be whispered about but not discussed in the open. Time to provide the funds needed to properly care for those with mental illness rather than just letting them roam the streets.

[hrenner]

We call him "the Conductor".
No matter what else you think, it's wonderful that villagers feel free enough to express their emotions. So much joy expressed every night :)

[Girlcopper]

We avoid SS most of the time because of this guy. We believe he has some mental health issues, having regular exposure to such things in our daily life. If he crosses the line someday and someone gets hurt when he goes off the rails, everyone will wonder why someone didn't help this individual. Mental health has long been shuttered to a back closet in this country...something to be whispered about but not discussed in the open. Time to provide the funds needed to properly care for those with
mental illness rather than just letting them roam the streets.
Seriously? Because hes eccentric you feel hes mentally ill? Very smart that you avoid SS because of him. If he annoys or scares you, then stay away. Take the OP with you

[Sandy and Ed]

We have also seen this guy. At first I thought he was a couple of cans shy of a six pack but realized it was probably only one can. Seems harmless. Actually does a pretty good job conducting. We never heard these loud shouts ourselves but can see where it could be very annoying especially if you’ve waited to here a particular performer at the square and/or a particular song. If he is interrupting the entertainment I can see why someone would be annoyed. I guess we all have to put up with these distractions nowadays. It’s a free country. You just have to select another venue. Myself?? I am considering bringing a base drum and bugle to the square so I can join the entertainers. ������������

[jimkerr]

We see him and he’s been at other squares too. We call him the spinner! He gives us a laugh.

[J1ceasar]

Can you tell me how many murders have been in the squares? Or if you just spouting off your thoughts?

[rjsantos592]

Maybe he has Torrettes Syndrome. Don't judge. Shame on you.

[J1ceasar]

There are a lot of things that are annoying in life, for 6 months we had people in the squares without masks that were definitely not vaccinated yet. There are people that save seats for 3 hours that you just be there. There are those darn car shows that take up all of the cars parking spots when we want to go there on Christmas time. So having one guy who shouts once in awhile and definitely is not mentally ill yet but probably just lives alone and wants to get out is fine with me

[Altavia]

Part of the charm of the squares is each has a few regular performers out there expressing their joy of it all.

[dleroux57]

Have any of you seen the guy, usually at Spanish Springs, that carries around a baton and dances solo to the music? I don't want to sound too harsh here, but personally I'm annoyed by some of his "act". He may have some sort of issue that deserves tolerance, but part of his routine is to regularly let out screams during the music.

I can understand that the powers-that-be would be cautious to intervene regarding most of his behaviour, but the screams in my opinion cross the line. They are so loud and blood curdling that they are a distraction to the music and, especially if nearby and unanticipated, they are startling and even a bit scary.

Maybe everybody but me thinks it's cute. Again, part of me has sympathy for the gentleman. His dancing alone would likely be just another curiosity at the square. But I simply don't think the extreme part of his antics...the screaming...should be tolerated.

Okay. I've vented.


We call him The Maestro and love him. He is completely harmless and we worry if he doesn't show up! Give the guy a break, part of going to the square is to watch the crowd and he is one of many to watch, love him.

[asianthree]

We have also been at SS notice more than just a man who loves being here, and enjoying life. Glad he gets out everyday and has a good time. As others have stated he is very nice man, loves life, if you ever had a conversation you might feel different

For those who have diagnosed him with mental health issues, without ever speaking to him, you must be in the top of your field. Can you bill your diagnose as a telahealth visit, or a non in person visit. Either way it must be a great supplement to income.

Every square brings in people from all over the counties, each square has the band as entertainment and the clientele as well. If anyone feels threaten or in fear for their life, then maybe take a step back, and re-evaluate before going to a square.

[Petersweeney]

This thread is like a car accident you can’t help but slow down and look…..

[Get real]

Is he vaccinated? :bigbow:

[Ashimp]

If he was to go away, you could start on someone else, and then the next person and so on. Just enjoy the entertainment and diversity

[DaleDivine]

:a040::popcorn::MOJE_whot::popcorn:

[Pedrocarrasco01@yahoo.com]

We call him "the Conductor".
No matter what else you think, it's wonderful that villagers feel free enough to express their emotions. So much joy expressed every night :)

Mark is a really nice person, he set up chairs when they were available for the people, he has a good time conducting the music, yes sometimes he gets carried away and gets loud, but not that often and we enjoy his antics.
I guess to each his own, every square has their own characters, Sumter has the two step couple that dances the two step, Brownwood has the breakdancer that the first time saw him i thought he was having a medical condition. I enjoy seeing all of them. We are on the fourth quarter of our lives, enjoy the scenery and the people involved. If it bothers you that much, go to the Maestro, (his name is Mark) shake his hand introduce yourself to him and ask him to please tone his enthusiasm down, he is really a nice person.

[soniak4@gmail.com]

Again, I will say just one more time and then leave this thread alone…

I have no problem with the gentleman…that’s what I called him in my op…except for the screaming. The screaming is not cute in any way.

Those of you who condescendingly advise to simply not go the square are far more annoying that he is.

The most annoying are intolerant people like you!! Stay home.

[Marathon Man]

We have also been at SS notice more than just a man who loves being here, and enjoying life. Glad he gets out everyday and has a good time. As others have stated he is very nice man, loves life, if you ever had a conversation you might feel different

For those who have diagnosed him with mental health issues, without ever speaking to him, you must be in the top of your field. Can you bill your diagnose as a telahealth visit, or a non in person visit. Either way it must be a great supplement to income.

Every square brings in people from all over the counties, each square has the band as entertainment and the clientele as well. If anyone feels threaten or in fear for their life, then maybe take a step back, and re-evaluate before going to a square.

Well said.

[Marathon Man]

Again, I will say just one more time and then leave this thread alone…

I have no problem with the gentleman…that’s what I called him in my op…except for the screaming. The screaming is not cute in any way.

Those of you who condescendingly advise to simply not go the square are far more annoying that he is.

When someone takes the time to publicly make a complaint, especially about another person, they are open to feedback of all kind. And then, complaining about those who give feedback, is going in the wrong direction.

[Two Bills]

He sounds better entertainment than some of the groups!

[KYtoTV2021]

How about the transvestite? who dances by his/her?? self -- often at Brownwood? Oh my gosh. At first I thought this person was just a very unattractive woman, but then I was told that it is a man who dresses in woman's clothes....maybe "crossdresser" is the term. Very, very weird looking. And she/he will purposely dance right in front of people (way too close) -- that is why we avoid the front row.

[Pachine58]

Before judging people, did you ever take the time to speak to the man ?

Or did you just decide using your KAREN attitude you were superior to him and therefore needed to post such harmful assessment?

[bobnyce]

Wrong! He is openly drinking beer from that back pack. And he isn’t buying it at the Squqre. Tolerance need only go so far. Whoever said “if you don’t like, don’t go” is foolish. This person has been doing this for years and has had many confrontations with others. If he cannot control himself he should be asked to leave but that would happen only if The Villages says so since the Square is private property. We just do not go or stay when he is there. And, we are not the only ones. It is the merchants who lose!

[Trynforpar]

I rarely respond to idiotic statements but you woke the beast in me! This “character’ as you refer to him has just as much right to be there as you. He is harmless which is more than I can say for you. Think before you speak!

[spd2918]

People should go back and read the original post. The writer only had an issue with the screaming and I agree it is not acceptable.

This first time I saw this person I was walking with my wife in SS. He was spinning on a sidewalk with his long arms stretched out to his sides. We didn't see him at first and he very nearly struck my wife. That would have ended very poorly for him.

I have since seen him talking with a patrolman and I believe he has the mental capacity to understand screaming is not appropriate.

[Imadreamer]

Have any of you seen the guy, usually at Spanish Springs, that carries around a baton and dances solo to the music? I don't want to sound too harsh here, but personally I'm annoyed by some of his "act". He may have some sort of issue that deserves tolerance, but part of his routine is to regularly let out screams during the music.

I can understand that the powers-that-be would be cautious to intervene regarding most of his behaviour, but the screams in my opinion cross the line. They are so loud and blood curdling that they are a distraction to the music and, especially if nearby and unanticipated, they are startling and even a bit scary.

Maybe everybody but me thinks it's cute. Again, part of me has sympathy for the gentleman. His dancing alone would likely be just another curiosity at the square. But I simply don't think the extreme part of his antics...the screaming...should be tolerated.

Okay. I've vented.


I definitely won't be going to SS Square. I have sensitive startle reflex and those screems would be too much for me. I'll enjoy other squares.

[msilagy]

Davonu, you open yourself up to harsh criticism when you post anything on this site. You have a viable claim and I'm sure many others that are not reading this agree. It's obvious this gentleman has issues with his enthusiastic display, Will that change, maybe at some point. Anyway you don't have to explain yourself to people who criticize a well written account of this man's unusual exuberance at the square. There is also a man who dances alone with very colorful clothes and bright striped socks yet he doesn't do anything to disturb others. Another lady (or man?) also dances alone a lot and again she doesn't disturb others. The patrolmen should have a conversation with this man to quiet his behavior.

[Taltarzac725]

https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?v=2113266382134034&ref=watch_permalink

I need to get out to the Squares more often. On the subject of the Conductor I would assume the band likes exuberant fans as long as they are not physically violent.

[golfing eagles]

Maybe he has Torrettes Syndrome. Don't judge. Shame on you.

From the description, this man's behavior has absolutely nothing to do with Tourette's syndrome. I am continually amazed at those that spout out something that they know nothing about.

[Queenie504]

How about tolerance for those that are different then you. He is having a good time. If you dont like it that's your problem, not his. I enjoy seeing EVERYONE having a good time.

[daca55]

Live and let live! He’s not hurting anyone. He is mild compared to others I’ve witnessed at the squares in my ten years here.

[meridian5850]

We see him and he’s been at other squares too. We call him the spinner! He gives us a laugh.

Nope, that's Russell. Different guy.

[G.R.I.T.S.]

You’re obviously new to tv. He’s not the only “character” at the squares. Where else in this country can you truly be free to express yourself and have fun. I agree with the suggestion to avoid the squares if you’re uncomfortable. I love seeing old folks having a great time!

[frank1975]

Can he be loud? Yes! Can it be a little bizarre? Yes! But the guy moves around not staying in one spot. He gets to do his thing without harming anyone. So if it bothers you that much then maybe you shouldn't go. Not sure what you want to hear on here. Should we all get together and run him out like the towns people chasing Frankenstein up the tower.???????????

[flyboyl39]

After reading this forum for the 5 years I have lived here I am not sure why this thread is causing me to post for the first time . Maybe it’s because for two years all I have heard is, your rights end, where mine begin ( mask, no mask ,, vac , no vac) . Why does that not apply here? No one cares that he dances around , conducts , spins etc. but when he screams and shouts and chants , that is a different story . His “exuberance” is infringing on my right to enjoy the music . Last night for example Bobby B was doing a slow blues love song and all you could here was this guy screaming and chanting. Disrespectful to the band and everyone else there . So stop with your live and let live, and if you don’t like it don’t go stuff, and admit that there are standards of reasonable behavior in public,,,, and he is WAY over the line.

[Phil D]

Mr.midnight is back🎩

[golfing eagles]

Can he be loud? Yes! Can it be a little bizarre? Yes! But the guy moves around not staying in one spot. He gets to do his thing without harming anyone. So if it bothers you that much then maybe you shouldn't go. Not sure what you want to hear on here. Should we all get together and run him out like the towns people chasing Frankenstein up the tower.???????????

Get your pitchforks and torches ready!:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Just give the guy a break and leave him alone, he obviously is starved for attention.

[frank1975]

In fact I think we should all get behind him and follow his moves.

[JimmyDebbie]

I don’t know of this man but wondering (based on the description) if he might have Tourette’s syndrome. One of the characteristics of Tourette’s is uncontrollable “tics” and his loud outbursts could be his tic. Tics can vary from person to person who have Tourette’s.

[Taltarzac725]

Clark Barrios Band - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wEZ43tgBtE)

I am feeling the music. Did I just yell? Ooops. Might have woke the neighbors.

[golfing eagles]

I don’t know of this man but wondering (based on the description) if he might have Tourette’s syndrome. One of the characteristics of Tourette’s is uncontrollable “tics” and his loud outbursts could be his tic. Tics can vary from person to person who have Tourette’s.

Please see post #42, apparently it applies to you as well.

[merrymini]

Oh, then I can bring my trombone to the square and play? I do not care what people do or look like, but when they interfere with the music, their behavior needs to be addressed. People should act with some regard to the people around them.

[butlerism]

The Dancing Maestro

[John41]

Have any of you seen the guy, usually at Spanish Springs, that carries around a baton and dances solo to the music? I don't want to sound too harsh here, but personally I'm annoyed by some of his "act". He may have some sort of issue that deserves tolerance, but part of his routine is to regularly let out screams during the music.

I can understand that the powers-that-be would be cautious to intervene regarding most of his behaviour, but the screams in my opinion cross the line. They are so loud and blood curdling that they are a distraction to the music and, especially if nearby and unanticipated, they are startling and even a bit scary.

Maybe everybody but me thinks it's cute. Again, part of me has sympathy for the gentleman. His dancing alone would likely be just another curiosity at the square. But I simply don't think the extreme part of his antics...the screaming...should be tolerated.

Okay. I've vented.

I agree his behavior crosses the line. If he did that inside the Rialto he would be escorted out.

[Taltarzac725]

Oh, then I can bring my trombone to the square and play? I do not care what people do or look like, but when they interfere with the music, their behavior needs to be addressed. People should act with some regard to the people around them.

That would be a planned obstruction of the music. Kind of different from that person, Mark, who is just enjoying the Square and yelling once in a while. The musicians probably like his enthusiasm and could curb it very easily if they wanted.

[flyboyl39]

“That would be a planned obstruction of the music. Kind of different from that person, Mark, who is just enjoying the Square and yelling once in a while. The musicians probably like his enthusiasm and could curb it very easily if they wanted.”

Yelling once and a while ??? Seriously ? You must not go there very often , It is constant and obnoxious . Also have you spoken to the band members , because I have ,,,,, they hate it , but have been told to ignore it .

[butlerism]

Futher Mucker.

oops that darn Tourettes again

[Red Rose]

Why should anyone stay away from the square because of this guy. It's everyone's right to enjoy the square. He may be nice, and he can dance and enjoy himself all he wants, but the blood curdling screams must not be tolerated. It's over the top and he's disturbing the peace. A police officer should be called to speak to him about this and to tell him to stop.

[Topspinmo]

I rarely respond to idiotic statements but you woke the beast in me! This “character’ as you refer to him has just as much right to be there as you. He is harmless which is more than I can say for you. Think before you speak!

Not if he brings his own drinks, not allowed at squares.

[Flgagg]

Please accept the differences we all have and don’t be judgemental. We live in The Villages to enjoy life.

[Topspinmo]

That would be a planned obstruction of the music. Kind of different from that person, Mark, who is just enjoying the Square and yelling once in a while. The musicians probably like his enthusiasm and could curb it very easily if they wanted.

No difference, it still disturbing to others.

[Topspinmo]

Get your pitchforks and torches ready!:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Just give the guy a break and leave him alone, he obviously is starved for attention.

He’s starved for something :)

[Villages Kahuna]

For over 15 years there have always been solo dancers—sometimes men, sometimes ladies. They’re entertaining themselves and don’t bother others. Chill.

[justjim]

We were only a big fan of the Squares the first year we were residents. That said, since we live just north of 44 now we rarely go to SS except for the car show. We never saw the person the OP mentioned. Too many times those that post throw the OP’S under the Bus like they have in this case. Where I come from, dancing by yourself is quite ok but yelling in a crowd is inappropriate. It is also inappropriate to just remark for the OP to find another place to go. He/she already knows they have that option. Fore…

[stanley]

A police officer should be called to speak to him about this and to tell him to stop.

FYI.there is a PO at the squares just about every night, especially when the "big names" are playing. I've been here three years and saw Mark from day one. If there were complaints something would have been done by now. Why is calling the police for something like this necessary anyway? I've seen a lot worse.

[Taltarzac725]

No difference, it still disturbing to others.

If someone brought their musical instrument and started playing during a Villages Square concert the musicians doing their paid gig would probably complain very loudly unless that person was very good with her music. And then she might get added to the band.

This man, Mark, is just enjoying the music at the Squares and is only bothering others if they make it annoy them.

[airstreamingypsy]

For over 15 years there have always been solo dancers—sometimes men, sometimes ladies. They’re entertaining themselves and don’t bother others. Chill.

Clearly this guy does bother others, and annoys the bands too. I can't figure out why no one has told him to shut the hell up when he does his annoying screams. Maybe he doesn't know how annoying he is.

[Taltarzac725]

Clearly this guy does bother others, and annoys the bands too. I can't figure out why no one has told him to shut the hell up when he does his annoying screams. Maybe he doesn't know how annoying he is.

Well he probably will hear about it now. Still-- live and let live. The Squares get loud but do not stay that way for long.

[newgirl]

I disagree, he is doing nothing illegal, or immoral and giving someone permission to be rude enough to go tell a happy person( doing what everyone goes to the squares to do) not to be himself because she is bothered by it , is as rude as posting this complaint. So, would everyone that does not like how someone smells, dresses, talks, looks, nationality and on and on just walk up and tell whomever that they are annoyed and that you should stop being you to make her happy?
I could see a issue in you were indoors at a paid event complaining if someone is loud, but outdoors at a place that wants all to enjoy and dance, this permission you suggested is out of line.

[njbchbum]

Perhaps addressing one's dislike of his behavior with him directly rather than airing it out on TOTV is a better option.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

We have also seen this guy. At first I thought he was a couple of cans shy of a six pack but realized it was probably only one can. Seems harmless. Actually does a pretty good job conducting. We never heard these loud shouts ourselves but can see where it could be very annoying especially if you’ve waited to here a particular performer at the square and/or a particular song. If he is interrupting the entertainment I can see why someone would be annoyed. I guess we all have to put up with these distractions nowadays. It’s a free country. You just have to select another venue. Myself?? I am considering bringing a base drum and bugle to the square so I can join the entertainers. ������������

His yells are his contribution to the music, in a sense. He follows the beat, and at (what seems to be) random lines of the song, he'll shout the beat "TWO! THREE! FOUR!"

That's it. That's the noise he makes that people are whining about. It's very loud, and yes it is sometimes distracting especially if you're sitting in front of where he's doing it. But it's not constant and he's not interrupting the music. He's accompanying it :)

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

How about the transvestite? who dances by his/her?? self -- often at Brownwood? Oh my gosh. At first I thought this person was just a very unattractive woman, but then I was told that it is a man who dresses in woman's clothes....maybe "crossdresser" is the term. Very, very weird looking. And she/he will purposely dance right in front of people (way too close) -- that is why we avoid the front row.

That's another person who seems to be happy in their own skin and filled with the joy of the music. Don't be jealous - with the right application of makeup and a properly-fitted dress you too can look good on the dance floor.

[golfing eagles]

That's another person who seems to be happy in their own skin and filled with the joy of the music. Don't be jealous - with the right application of makeup and a properly-fitted dress you too can look good on the dance floor.

Actually, I believe the person you are referring to is a pre-op transgender. Nice guy(gal), plays a good game of golf as well.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Wrong! He is openly drinking beer from that back pack. And he isn’t buying it at the Squqre. Tolerance need only go so far. Whoever said “if you don’t like, don’t go” is foolish. This person has been doing this for years and has had many confrontations with others. If he cannot control himself he should be asked to leave but that would happen only if The Villages says so since the Square is private property. We just do not go or stay when he is there. And, we are not the only ones. It is the merchants who lose!

He's there just about every night. He is drinking water that he pours from a gallon water jug he keeps in his pack. He doesn't have confrontations with anyone. He's not asked to leave, because most people enjoy his excitement. Just his presence gets people up on their feet dancing. And dancing makes people thirsty. And thirsty people buy more drinks. He's good for business. In fact I wouldn't doubt it for a moment if I learned that he was paid to be there. It'd make sense.

[SERENITY52]

Have any of you seen the guy, usually at Spanish Springs, that carries around a baton and dances solo to the music? I don't want to sound too harsh here, but personally I'm annoyed by some of his "act". He may have some sort of issue that deserves tolerance, but part of his routine is to regularly let out screams during the music.

I can understand that the powers-that-be would be cautious to intervene regarding most of his behaviour, but the screams in my opinion cross the line. They are so loud and blood curdling that they are a distraction to the music and, especially if nearby and unanticipated, they are startling and even a bit scary.

Maybe everybody but me thinks it's cute. Again, part of me has sympathy for the gentleman. His dancing alone would likely be just another curiosity at the square. But I simply don't think the extreme part of his antics...the screaming...should be tolerated.

Okay. I've vented.
The gentleman is RUDE!!!

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I don’t know of this man but wondering (based on the description) if he might have Tourette’s syndrome. One of the characteristics of Tourette’s is uncontrollable “tics” and his loud outbursts could be his tic. Tics can vary from person to person who have Tourette’s.

No, he doesn't have Tourette's Syndrome. He just shouts "TWO THREE FOUR!" at certain parts of certain songs, because he's inspired to express himself in that way.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Not if he brings his own drinks, not allowed at squares.

He brings his own water. He doesn't drink alcohol.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Actually, I believe the person you are referring to is a pre-op transgender. Nice guy(gal), plays a good game of golf as well.

I've seen them in the square during the day when I was down in Sumter at one of the stores. Recognized them right away, they were dressed as a man then, but wearing eye-liner if I remember right.

[FromNY]

If he is upsetting and frightening to you,ask yourself why? Does his behavior triggering unpleasant memory for you? As long as he is not overtly reaching for you move away from him and dance on. There are many humans I move away from because of unpleasant triggers. They have their life I have mine. There use to be a golden rule... Do onto others as you would have them do onto you. Guess that one got pulled down and canceled somewhere along the years.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Also, I find it MUCH more distracting to sit upwind behind someone who lights a cigarette while seated within the square, while the canned announcement reminds people that smoking is prohibited.

And I find it MUCH more distracting when the people sitting behind me insist on having LOUD long conversations with each other, basically completely ignoring the fact that there's music playing and people trying to listen to it.

And I find it MUCH more distracting when someone chooses to put their chair too close to the wall, after being told by the Watch guy that he needs to move it a few feet forward, and then gives the Watch guy an argument even though he's the ONLY one who wants to block access.

And then those other people who sit at one end of the wall, who INSIST on walking in front of everyone in that row to get to the other side - when all they have to do is go the other way and they won't have to cross in front of anyone at all.

And all the people with dogs, who insist that their dogs LOVE loud music. Hint: they're behaving themselves because they're trained to behave themselves, or because they're too overwhelmed to do anything else. Dogs are very sensitive to sound. You're causing them damage. Stop doing that.

[golfing eagles]

No, he doesn't have Tourette's Syndrome. He just shouts "TWO THREE FOUR!" at certain parts of certain songs, because he's inspired to express himself in that way.

Oh, gee whiz, how can you say that?:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: There have been 2 previous posts by google "experts" that suggested he did, one of which whom couldn't even spell it correctly.

[DAVES]

Have any of you seen the guy, usually at Spanish Springs, that carries around a baton and dances solo to the music? I don't want to sound too harsh here, but personally I'm annoyed by some of his "act". He may have some sort of issue that deserves tolerance, but part of his routine is to regularly let out screams during the music.

I can understand that the powers-that-be would be cautious to intervene regarding most of his behaviour, but the screams in my opinion cross the line. They are so loud and blood curdling that they are a distraction to the music and, especially if nearby and unanticipated, they are startling and even a bit scary.

Maybe everybody but me thinks it's cute. Again, part of me has sympathy for the gentleman. His dancing alone would likely be just another curiosity at the square. But I simply don't think the extreme part of his antics...the screaming...should be tolerated.

Okay. I've vented.

The line between sanity and insanity is debatable. It is often doing harm to yourself or to others.

As far as everybody but me thinks it's cute. A common thought for many. For me another form of insanity. I am will to listen to what others say, think etc. In the end all that matters is what I think and whether acting on my thoughts is worth the cost.

[waynehal55]

How about that - Backpack man manages to get two people who are diametrically opposed to each other in every other way, to agree on something.

Y'all who have a problem with Backpack Man are sad. This guy, for all his hollers and hoots, is a man who wants to spread love. If you can't accept it, don't come to the square.

I agree with you, my wife and I were at the square about a week ago. He puts a smile on our faces, he was going around flashing the peace sign and my wife returned it. He's a lovable character that means no harm.

[golfing eagles]

He's there just about every night. He is drinking water that he pours from a gallon water jug he keeps in his pack. He doesn't have confrontations with anyone. He's not asked to leave, because most people enjoy his excitement. Just his presence gets people up on their feet dancing. And dancing makes people thirsty. And thirsty people buy more drinks. He's good for business. In fact I wouldn't doubt it for a moment if I learned that he was paid to be there. It'd make sense.

I'm getting a strange sense of deja vu. Isn't this thread eerily similar to one about 5 years ago about how line dancers were rude, distracting, taking over the squares, etc.? So people are picking on this guy because he is different as opposed to line dancers? I guess that could be a matter of opinion as well.

[larcha]

Absolutely amazing. This has to be a record. Six pages of comments!

[retiredguy123]

Wow. I never go to the squares. But, after reading this thread, I think I'll go less often.

[SeanAndrews]

Yes, he's a character. My wife and also call him "the conductor" and we have him as one of the squares on our "bingo card" of Spanish Springs characters. Most of his antics are entertaining, but the screaming is over the top. It seems from this discussion that some of you know him. Is anyone on a friendly-enough basis to mention to him that his screaming is getting out of hand? I don't think too many people would have a problem with him if he didn't scream.

For those who say that he does no harm, I invite you to watch the crowd the next time he lets out one of his blood-curdling screams. Do you notice many of them wincing? Also, when he plants his chair (with water bottle) somewhere in the town center, watch as the other visitors pick up their chairs and move away from him. His screaming is chasing away other villagers and guests. Sadly, eventually he'll get banned. I'm surprised he lasted this long.

[golfing eagles]

The line between sanity and insanity is debatable. It is often doing harm to yourself or to others.

As far as everybody but me thinks it's cute. A common thought for many. For me another form of insanity. I am will to listen to what others say, think etc. In the end all that matters is what I think and whether acting on my thoughts is worth the cost.

I think the actual quote refers to the fine line between genius and insanity. The line between sanity and insanity is pretty clear.
And if you believe that "all that matters is what I think", guess which category you fall into?:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[golfing eagles]

Absolutely amazing. This has to be a record. Six pages of comments!

Not even close

[DAVES]

Also, I find it MUCH more distracting to sit upwind behind someone who lights a cigarette while seated within the square, while the canned announcement reminds people that smoking is prohibited.

And I find it MUCH more distracting when the people sitting behind me insist on having LOUD long conversations with each other, basically completely ignoring the fact that there's music playing and people trying to listen to it.

And I find it MUCH more distracting when someone chooses to put their chair too close to the wall, after being told by the Watch guy that he needs to move it a few feet forward, and then gives the Watch guy an argument even though he's the ONLY one who wants to block access.

And then those other people who sit at one end of the wall, who INSIST on walking in front of everyone in that row to get to the other side - when all they have to do is go the other way and they won't have to cross in front of anyone at all.

And all the people with dogs, who insist that their dogs LOVE loud music. Hint: they're behaving themselves because they're trained to behave themselves, or because they're too overwhelmed to do anything else. Dogs are very sensitive to sound. You're causing them damage. Stop doing that.

Things have not changed. My dad had a simple view of these sorts of issues. Your rights end where the other person's rights begin. Truly a simple view of the most complex issues.

As far as your dogs. Truly simple, why do you bring your dog to a concert?

The most complex issues are truly simple.

[DAVES]

I think the actual quote refers to the fine line between genius and insanity. The line between sanity and insanity is pretty clear.
And if you believe that "all that matters is what I think", guess which category you fall into?:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

As stated I simply do not care. If, I did, I would give you power that should be AND IS mine.

[golfing eagles]

As stated I simply do not care. If, I did, I would give you power that should be AND IS mine.

And so I rest my case:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[patfla06]

After reading this forum for the 5 years I have lived here I am not sure why this thread is causing me to post for the first time . Maybe it’s because for two years all I have heard is, your rights end, where mine begin ( mask, no mask ,, vac , no vac) . Why does that not apply here? No one cares that he dances around , conducts , spins etc. but when he screams and shouts and chants , that is a different story . His “exuberance” is infringing on my right to enjoy the music . Last night for example Bobby B was doing a slow blues love song and all you could here was this guy screaming and chanting. Disrespectful to the band and everyone else there . So stop with your live and let live, and if you don’t like it don’t go stuff, and admit that there are standards of reasonable behavior in public,,,, and he is WAY over the line.

I have to agree.

The original poster was stating what he saw. I think his screaming, especially if it’s blood curdling, is annoying & rude to the band.
Telling the O.P. to stay home is also rude. We all attend the same
venues and we all have the same right to be there.

I continue to be amazed at how you feel it’s okay to jump on posters.
Is it any wonder why TOTV has been declining?

[Taltarzac725]

Scooter the DJ probably would like more screaming?

[stanley]

I have to agree.

I think his screaming, especially if it’s blood curdling, is annoying & rude to the band.


He doesn't "scream", and what he does vocally is not "blood curdling"

That is greatly exaggerated by a few

[Spalumbos62]

After reading this forum for the 5 years I have lived here I am not sure why this thread is causing me to post for the first time . Maybe it’s because for two years all I have heard is, your rights end, where mine begin ( mask, no mask ,, vac , no vac) . Why does that not apply here? No one cares that he dances around , conducts , spins etc. but when he screams and shouts and chants , that is a different story . His “exuberance” is infringing on my right to enjoy the music . Last night for example Bobby B was doing a slow blues love song and all you could here was this guy screaming and chanting. Disrespectful to the band and everyone else there . So stop with your live and let live, and if you don’t like it don’t go stuff, and admit that there are standards of reasonable behavior in public,,,, and he is WAY over the line.


Thank you!!!! I totally agree.
Do I like his antics- absolutely not... and yes his scream has made me jump .
A person being uninhibited is not a bad thing...but what he does crosses a line, and now many others are getting up and doing their little performance for the crowd. Have you ever seen the older cowboy couple at SS that...I don't know what..sashsey around the circle all night, dressed as twins....ok,ok...nothing wrong with that, but just bf the band returns and they announce all the rules and regulations, she stands there and mouths the whole speech making all these childish faces. It's not cute, quite the contrary and it seems if we allow these displays to continue, it won't be a square to dance in, but a circus with jugglers, and Hola hoops, etc etc for all the school clowns to get their last jollies.
Please don't tell me, if you don't like it, don't go....I love the square, I love to see people dance and have fun... what I don't like is one or two insecure people that feel the need to perform ruining things.

[Taltarzac725]

Also, I find it MUCH more distracting to sit upwind behind someone who lights a cigarette while seated within the square, while the canned announcement reminds people that smoking is prohibited.

And I find it MUCH more distracting when the people sitting behind me insist on having LOUD long conversations with each other, basically completely ignoring the fact that there's music playing and people trying to listen to it.

And I find it MUCH more distracting when someone chooses to put their chair too close to the wall, after being told by the Watch guy that he needs to move it a few feet forward, and then gives the Watch guy an argument even though he's the ONLY one who wants to block access.

And then those other people who sit at one end of the wall, who INSIST on walking in front of everyone in that row to get to the other side - when all they have to do is go the other way and they won't have to cross in front of anyone at all.

And all the people with dogs, who insist that their dogs LOVE loud music. Hint: they're behaving themselves because they're trained to behave themselves, or because they're too overwhelmed to do anything else. Dogs are very sensitive to sound. You're causing them damage. Stop doing that.

You have that right.

[Taltarzac725]

Wow. I never go to the squares. But, after reading this thread, I think I'll go less often.

Some of the bands are quite good. My friend said sometimes she finds one that is very boring and goes home early.

Personally I have only seen a few bands when they were actually at the Squares. I view what I can online.

[stanley]

Have you ever seen the older cowboy couple at SS that...I don't know what..sashsey around the circle all night, dressed as twins....ok,ok...nothing wrong with that, but just bf the band returns and they announce all the rules and regulations, she stands there and mouths the whole speech making all these childish faces.

Those two have been regulars at the square at least since I've been here.
Oh and for your information, what she is doing during the announcement is signing the rules and regs to the hearing challenged in the group.
Some people..............:ohdear:

[Taltarzac725]

Those two have been regulars at the square at least since I've been here.
Oh and for your information, what she is doing during the announcement is signing the rules and regs to the hearing challenged in the group.
Some people..............:ohdear:

Thanks for the information.

[joelfmi]

We avoid SS most of the time because of this guy. We believe he has some mental health issues, having regular exposure to such things in our daily life. If he crosses the line someday and someone gets hurt when he goes off the rails, everyone will wonder why someone didn't help this individual. Mental health has long been shuttered to a back closet in this country...something to be whispered about but not discussed in the open. Time to provide the funds needed to properly care for those with mental illness rather than just letting them roam the streets. Having having a spouse that died from Lewy body which can cause this condition, Have knowing about Robin Williams suicide which had very possibly contributed by Lewy Body. We need more Help for these poor people not a lecture on their behavior.

[I'm Popeye!]

Medication, medication, lack of medication: Seen many of them in NYC in need of medication. :loco:

[stebooo]

I don't think that's the issue

[I'm Popeye!]

Happy to see you said "You don't think" that's the issue.

[Spalumbos62]

Those two have been regulars at the square at least since I've been here.
Oh and for your information, what she is doing during the announcement is signing the rules and regs to the hearing challenged in the group.
Some people..............:ohdear:


I'm sorry, but that is not correct, she is not signing....she is making allot of jesters that are confusing..in fact, at first I thought she was drunk.
Again...absolutely not signing...trust me.

[stebooo]

What are u talking about. When did this happen?

[stebooo]

How do you know that he is not being helped? Don't you wish you could be that free. Dance like no one is watching. Do you feel the same way with little kids who dance that free?

[Byte1]

Wow, old folks sure complain a lot. Hope I don't get like that when I reach my '80s in a few years. I thought this was Disney World for seniors. That's what I was told. If one can't have fun here when they get old, where can they go? The grave yard?

[Byte1]

What happened to the "waterbottle lady" that used to dance solo at the square?

[stanley]

What happened to the "waterbottle lady" that used to dance solo at the square?

Or the one with the bouncy boots?

[jmaccallum]

Have any of you seen the guy, usually at Spanish Springs, that carries around a baton and dances solo to the music? I don't want to sound too harsh here, but personally I'm annoyed by some of his "act". He may have some sort of issue that deserves tolerance, but part of his routine is to regularly let out screams during the music.

I can understand that the powers-that-be would be cautious to intervene regarding most of his behaviour, but the screams in my opinion cross the line. They are so loud and blood curdling that they are a distraction to the music and, especially if nearby and unanticipated, they are startling and even a bit scary.

Maybe everybody but me thinks it's cute. Again, part of me has sympathy for the gentleman. His dancing alone would likely be just another curiosity at the square. But I simply don't think the extreme part of his antics...the screaming...should be tolerated.

Okay. I've vented.

He’s here taking care of his mother who fell and broke either one or both hips. He is exuberant with the music on the square, but who ain’t depending on the band. Nice guy. Anyway I’ve seen a lot wackier at SS some evenings! When he leaves the square he goes home to take his mom for an evening therapy walk. Security knows all about him. And you know the saying, “Everyone’s weird, except you and me, and I’m not so sure about you!”

[Nucky]

OK, I get it. You don't like me yelling two, three, four? I'll just stay home from now on then! :1rotfl:

[jimjamuser]

He's not a drunk. We call him "backpack man." He's definitely exuberant, I think that's the word I'd use. A little eccentric, but he's actually a very nice man, has a joy of life you don't see much. And yeah sometimes he'll get a little over-enthused with certain songs and do the "one two three!" loud enough to be heard on the other side of the square. The baton was given to him by a fan. The largest thing in his backpack is a gallon of water, which he pours into a cup and drinks from while he's there.

He comes almost every night, and says that his dancing is how he keeps fit (and it you'd actually get a look at him - he's very fit).

Most people just assume he's a little crazy and avoid him but some folks actually take a few moments out of their lives to talk to him and learn better.
I thought he was called, "dancing Dave"? I have sensitive hearing and even sometimes at the beginning of a movie at a theater, they turn up the sound for ice cream ads, etc. - so I pop in some earplugs for a while. I would suggest that for the thread starter person. Something that bothers me (but I would NEVER complain about) is children crying - something about the high frequencies. Note: I guess children's crying must be or has been an positive evolving mechanism for early humans But, that IS just a speculation on my part?

[Rose Ann Vinci Igoe]

Have any of you seen the guy, usually at Spanish Springs, that carries around a baton and dances solo to the music? I don't want to sound too harsh here, but personally I'm annoyed by some of his "act". He may have some sort of issue that deserves tolerance, but part of his routine is to regularly let out screams during the music.

I can understand that the powers-that-be would be cautious to intervene regarding most of his behaviour, but the screams in my opinion cross the line. They are so loud and blood curdling that they are a distraction to the music and, especially if nearby and unanticipated, they are startling and even a bit scary.

Maybe everybody but me thinks it's cute. Again, part of me has sympathy for the gentleman. His dancing alone would likely be just another curiosity at the square. But I simply don't think the extreme part of his antics...the screaming...should be tolerated.

Okay. I've vented.

We can all pretty much agree, there is more going on with the gentleman. However, he's not hurting anyone, he's having fun, we all are entertained for sure, good or bad. My thoughts, tolerate and have compassion, and be grateful, you STILL have all your wits about you. We are ALL heading in the same direction, someday or sooner. Lets hope, others will have "tolerance" with US, when our minds begin to fail, and it will. Our odd behavior, confusion, ... pls dig deep in your heart, and say a prayer for this poor sole.. He does still look young, could of had a stroke, who knows what happened in is life to trigger this behavior. I'm sure he is under doctors care. Compassion can go a long way... you be the better person.

[Rose Ann Vinci Igoe]

What happened to the "waterbottle lady" that used to dance solo at the square?

I know who your talking about (and I get it)... seen her for years.... have to tell you... had the "pleasure" of having a class with her. (my first thoughts... oh Lord !) but then Waterbottle Lady, opened her mouth, and flowers came out. What a truly lovely girl she is. We are all , just trying to survive and be happy at this point of our lives.. She really is a sweet, kind, soft spoken and most of all a LADY.

[jimjamuser]

We avoid SS most of the time because of this guy. We believe he has some mental health issues, having regular exposure to such things in our daily life. If he crosses the line someday and someone gets hurt when he goes off the rails, everyone will wonder why someone didn't help this individual. Mental health has long been shuttered to a back closet in this country...something to be whispered about but not discussed in the open. Time to provide the funds needed to properly care for those with mental illness rather than just letting them roam the streets.
I don't have an opinion on dancing Dave or Marc's mental health. I do agree that more $ should be budgeted for mental health. And it should be socially better accepted for someone to SEEK help. I can think of a few on this forum that could use some screws adjusted.

[jimjamuser]

Mark is a great guy. And you can keep an eye on him ������.
You can’t keep an eye on the murderers that come to Spanish Springs kill our youth
and get away with it. I would bet that if Mark was there that night that Brice and Metcalfe murdered Austin Stevens the later would be alive today. Don’t go.
I would be curious about THAT murder. I am NOT aware of it?

[Joe V.]

I would be curious about THAT murder. I am NOT aware of it?


Orlando Sentinel |
Jun 10, 2016 at 4:32 PM


Look it up. Brice Hall of Weirsdale and Nicholas Metcalfe of Belleview, both 19.

Stevens was the victim. I guess you MISSED that one.

[stanley]

I can think of a few on this forum that could use some screws adjusted.

Ain't that the TRUTH

[PugMom]

We see him and he’s been at other squares too. We call him the spinner! He gives us a laugh.

is that the guy who's super thin, wears a straw hat & SPINS up to 2minutes non-stop? he's cool. i didn't see him for awhile & kinda missed him, but spotted him last week over @ Brownwood.

[karostay]

Free world ......Now were judging people....Get a life

[PugMom]

ikr, lol. i can only imagine what they'd say about me.:icon_wink:

[Preilly]

His name is Mark super nice. My grandkids call him the conductor. From what I have heard he takes care of an elderly parent during the day and at night goes an enjoys the music at the square. Keeps to himself unless one of the ladies asks him to dance. He minds his own business but if you do want to have a conversation with him, he is quite funny and very polite. We all have our stuff and different ways to unwind. Enjoying the music is his. Life is hard enough. PEACE!

[La lamy]

If I recall correctly I think his name is Brian, and it's only hearsay but I heard he might be autistic. I personally find him entertaining. Glad he has such a good time and is quite musical!

[JMintzer]

Not if he brings his own drinks, not allowed at squares.

Could have fooled me, with all of the tailgaters with coolers I've seen...

[JMintzer]

Or the one with the bouncy boots?

I totally read that wrong... ;)

[Rodneysblue]

Dont go there if you get annoyed:pray::pray:

DITO!!!!!!
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