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Velvet
06-18-2021, 03:48 PM
Where can I store gasoline in gas can ready to use in mower or generator if I have an enclosed lanai?

Garywt
06-18-2021, 03:53 PM
Where can I store gasoline in gas can ready to use in mower or generator if I have an enclosed lanai?

In the garage where you probably have your mower and generator.

Toymeister
06-18-2021, 04:31 PM
I am guessing that there is someplace on your lot where you can place a small deck storage box such as the "Suncast SS601C 22.5" x 17" x 22.5" 22 Gallon Outdoor Small Deck Box with Storage Seat and Reinforced Lid for Backyard or Patio" (Amazon). In this small box you can fit ten gallons of gas or so.

Yes, yes, 100 times yes; someone could complain that those aren't allowed. Nevermind that I have seen dozens upon dozens of this boxes throughout TV. The advantage of the box is the fumes that escape are vented outside your living space

DAVES
06-18-2021, 06:06 PM
Where can I store gasoline in gas can ready to use in mower or generator if I have an enclosed lanai?

Reality, most of us store it wrong. Gasoline is highly flammable. Not only that but it oxidizes over time. The way an engine works, you spray gasoline vapor into an enclosed space, the cylinder, the spark plug, sparks and it starts an explosion driving the piston.

In an enclosed space, ie your garage the gasoline vaporizes. At high enough concentrations, fortunately not likely, you turn on the lights or anything makes a spark and explosion is possible-not likely. A generator will require a fair amount of gasoline.
Depending on what you need or want as well as budget. There are generators that run on gas as well as others that run on diesel which is not as explosive or easy to ignite as gasoline.

Few do it right. Most get away with it.

Velvet
06-18-2021, 06:17 PM
I’m leaning towards storing gas in the car’s tank. And when I need it just siphon it into the gas can and then whatever is not used siphon back. Any suggestions?

Toymeister
06-18-2021, 06:33 PM
My plan is to store ten gallons in cans, five in the cart and more in the car's tank. Use "GasTapper 12V MAX Electric 12 Volt Gasoline/Diesel Transfer Pump for UTV's, Boats, Planes, Farm Equipment, Tractors, Vehicles - Excellent Tool for Preppers - Built in the USA" (Amazon). This pump can defeat the anti syphon mechanism in your car, they claim.

No comment on generator gas usage is even qualified to be useful without knowing what type of generator that you have and your expectations.

I lived eight days in the south without power and used under twelve gallons of fuel. I had hot water, cold food, lights, internet. It can be done, much depends upon your home, the time of year. All this to say most posters here on this forum don't know much about this topic in this climate.

Nucky and I had a detailed discussion on this, I believe that he is in your neighborhood. I bet he will help you/relate his experience to you, Velvet.

Mortal1
06-18-2021, 06:34 PM
Don't listen to the person who said to get the storage box and put it outside. It's against the rules and if you break them and something goes wrong(gas fumes explode...damage your place and others)you're libel. People that don't take into account consequences and break simple rules can't be trusted to use common sense.

As to the person who said it might explode in your garage due to the concentration of gas fumes and electrical lights or appliances...bollocks. Your garage is too big and not air tight in the least so you'd never get that volume of gas fumes collecting. Just google the cubic ft. of the garage and the what is required for the concentration of gas fumes to become a danger.

Topspinmo
06-18-2021, 06:44 PM
Where can I store gasoline in gas can ready to use in mower or generator if I have an enclosed lanai?

I wouldn’t, and if you do away from the house. Plenty of containers you can buy to safely store it outside and away from house few feet, (yards better).

Kenswing
06-18-2021, 06:49 PM
Choose one you like. https://www.amazon.com/s?k=flammable+liquid+storage+cabinet&crid=11VZ0FSQYLFYE&sprefix=flammable+%2Caps%2C186&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_1_10

Fredman
06-18-2021, 07:07 PM
Definitely not the garage. Outside is best

Hiltongrizz11
06-19-2021, 05:14 AM
Some of you guys with your gas storage questions are as far out as Mars. Just by your suggestions I can tell some of you never lived in rural areas and don't know how many Americans live day to day. You put your gas where you need to and where you want to when you don't worry about it as long as you got a decent can.

Anywhere outside is acceptable for the gasoline itself it's just a matter of whether you want to break the rules according to some here. I love the idea of a deck box that someone suggested right out of the chute. The risk of an explosion and all the scary tactics that they put on year is BS when it's outside.

Malsua
06-19-2021, 05:24 AM
I’m leaning towards storing gas in the car’s tank. And when I need it just siphon it into the gas can and then whatever is not used siphon back. Any suggestions?

Yeah, that won't work.

Depending on the vehicle there are screens, check balls and a number of other anti-siphon/anti-tipover/anti-splashback measures. If you did want to do it, it would require a very small tube and with luck your vehicle won't have a screen. The small tube will make siphoning fuel out a long process.

It is possible to attach to the fuel rail and use the fuel pump to deliver it to a hose, but again, it's different in each vehicle and some don't have an easily accessible shrader valve as an attachment point.

Two Bills
06-19-2021, 05:37 AM
I store two gas cans at a time.
One 5 gallon is in garage, which I use over the year to top up the other 1 gallon container (for mower) in my garden shed.
Been doing it for years, with never a problem from fumes, or leakage.

Windguy
06-19-2021, 05:42 AM
I think the safety issue is less about an explosion from the vapors (unlike with propane tanks) than it is about the risk to firemen if your house catches fire due to some other cause and the fire sets off the gasoline. The same goes for any combustibles. Although I do not, we should keep all our combustibles in a cabinet for flammables.

noslices1
06-19-2021, 05:43 AM
Just put it in good gas cans and in your garage. I store gas for my golf cart and cannot smell any gas fumes. Do you ever open the garage door? There won’t be any fumes if the cans are sealed properly. Don’t put them in a tiny, enclosed space out in the heat. That is looking for trouble.

bowlingal
06-19-2021, 05:57 AM
It's really funny how everyone is talking do's and don'ts of storing gasoline in the garage. No one is talking about the propane tanks of your barbeque being stored in the garage for 6 months. which I think much more dangerous Up north, you NEVER store a propane tank in an enclosed space.

joelfmi
06-19-2021, 06:03 AM
propane gas tanks are also never stored in your home just like gasoline

Girlcopper
06-19-2021, 06:11 AM
I’m leaning towards storing gas in the car’s tank. And when I need it just siphon it into the gas can and then whatever is not used siphon back. Any suggestions?
What?? How about you dont actually store it. Need it for a mower or any other thing, go get whats needed. Storing gas if not done the right way is extremely dangerous. If you dont mind blowing up your house, I might if mine blows up if youre my neighbor

nick demis
06-19-2021, 06:35 AM
Of the 10's of millions of houses that store gasoline in their garages, how many explosions have you ever heard of?

jimkerr
06-19-2021, 07:01 AM
I’ve always stored my gas in the garage.

brick010207
06-19-2021, 07:03 AM
This is the right answer. Rest of it is telling you how to build a beach!

oneclickplus
06-19-2021, 07:07 AM
I’m leaning towards storing gas in the car’s tank. And when I need it just siphon it into the gas can and then whatever is not used siphon back. Any suggestions?

Most modern cars and trucks have a ball or other obstacle that prevents inserting a siphon hose down the filler neck. You will be sorely disappointed if you try to siphon gas for emergency use.

Stephen13
06-19-2021, 07:09 AM
Just put it in good gas cans and in your garage. I store gas for my golf cart and cannot smell any gas fumes. Do you ever open the garage door? There won’t be any fumes if the cans are sealed properly. Don’t put them in a tiny, enclosed space out in the heat. That is looking for trouble.

This is the most sensible comment in this ridiculous thread. I thought, "this has got to be a joke", but siphoning gas out of your car...

Read a book, donate your time, take a walk, just don't worry about trivial matters.

Bridget Staunton
06-19-2021, 07:12 AM
Mortal1: you must be Irish or have been to Ireland to use the word “Bollocks” fairly common word at home in ireland. Reading gave me a laugh

Gunny2403
06-19-2021, 07:45 AM
Duh. Garage.

Lindaws
06-19-2021, 07:46 AM
Garage

golfing eagles
06-19-2021, 07:53 AM
Where can I store gasoline in gas can ready to use in mower or generator if I have an enclosed lanai?

Is this the proper method????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

gas in a bag video - Bing video (https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=gas+in+a+bag+video&docid=608053943435746515&mid=2A20400BBEAACF4FAFEA2A20400BBEAACF4FAFEA&view=detail&FORM=VIRE)

GOLFER54
06-19-2021, 07:58 AM
I put it in my refrigerator, next to my ice tea pitcher.

Blue Oval
06-19-2021, 08:08 AM
I’m leaning towards storing gas in the car’s tank. And when I need it just siphon it into the gas can and then whatever is not used siphon back. Any suggestions?

I suggest you try doing that before the need arises. Most modern vehicles make this very difficult if not impossible.

airstreamingypsy
06-19-2021, 08:15 AM
Gas is stored in millions of gas tanks, in garages around the world. Your car has a gas tank, your golf cart has a gas tank, your lawn mower, weed whacker....... one more tank won't matter.

JeepsterGlenn
06-19-2021, 08:24 AM
The new gas cans with a push button shut-off valve are good for storage and should not release fumes since the push button spring keeps the opening closed when the can is stored. There is also a cap that covers the spout so you have double protection from fume leakage. I have used this type in my garage for many years and have not smelled gasoline fumes.

lennythenet
06-19-2021, 08:29 AM
Have another question, any idea how do we get rid of old gasoline which we bought for our generator in case of a hurricane and it has not been used? It is probably 5 years old.

GrumpyOldMan
06-19-2021, 08:30 AM
It is amazing how much dangerous misinformation is posted in this thread. The fact that someone managed to "get away" with doing something dangerous does not make it safe.

There are laws in most communities about how you can legally store gasoline, and they are not based on politics, but based on trying to help prevent deaths.

Here is a page on how to store gasoline safely and legally.

How to Store Gasoline (DIY) (https://www.familyhandyman.com/project/how-to-store-gasoline/)

GrumpyOldMan
06-19-2021, 08:33 AM
Have another question, any idea how do we get rid of old gasoline which we bought for our generator in case of a hurricane and it has not been used? It is probably 5 years old.

You can take it to any shop that works on automobiles. Including Walmart, etc. They all have disposal mechanisms for petroleum products like oil and gas. Do NOT pour it on the ground - don't pour oil gasoline, kerosene, or any other petroleum-based product on the ground on in the drainage.

Oil and petroleum products are toxic to people, wildlife, and plants. One quart of motor oil can pollute 250,000 gallons of water, and one gallon of gasoline can pollute 750,000 gallons of water!

NoMoSno
06-19-2021, 08:37 AM
It is amazing how much dangerous misinformation is posted in this thread. The fact that someone managed to "get away" with doing something dangerous does not make it safe.

There are laws in most communities about how you can legally store gasoline, and they are not based on politics, but based on trying to help prevent deaths.

Here is a page on how to store gasoline safely and legally.

How to Store Gasoline (DIY) (https://www.familyhandyman.com/project/how-to-store-gasoline/)
Got a link to just one of those "laws" not related to commercial storage?

KarenandJohn
06-19-2021, 08:44 AM
We had a “Just Right Safety Can” and stored it outside.

OhioBuckeye
06-19-2021, 08:45 AM
Don't listen to the person who said to get the storage box and put it outside. It's against the rules and if you break them and something goes wrong(gas fumes explode...damage your place and others)you're libel. People that don't take into account consequences and break simple rules can't be trusted to use common sense.

As to the person who said it might explode in your garage due to the concentration of gas fumes and electrical lights or appliances...bollocks. Your garage is too big and not air tight in the least so you'd never get that volume of gas fumes collecting. Just google the cubic ft. of the garage and the what is required for the concentration of gas fumes to become a danger.

Don’t know anything about outside storage boxes but everything else you said I agree! Personally I’ve always stored gas in gas cans in my garage. Never had an issue. But I know someone personally in Harbour Hills. where a Gas Golf Cart caught (battery shorted out) on fire & gutted their garage, car & everytime & smoke damage to the total inside of house. Lucky for them the Fire Dept. was just going by H.H. from another fire so this fire got put out before it got into the house. Lucky for them, sorta!

Toymeister
06-19-2021, 08:58 AM
Got a link to just one of those "laws" not related to commercial storage?

Why, yes I do. The flow down is the state adopts the national fire code, which is: Maximum residential storage of flammable liquids (gasoline & white gas) shall be limited to 25 gallons; preferably stored in an unattached garage or shed. Of this 25 gallon total, no more than 10 gallons can be stored in an attached garage; and absolutely no flammable liquid storage is allowed in basements.

So there you have it, outside storage has a preference as I recommend in my post on the deck box.

Larchap49
06-19-2021, 09:04 AM
I’m leaning towards storing gas in the car’s tank. And when I need it just siphon it into the gas can and then whatever is not used siphon back. Any suggestions?

Most cars have an anti siphon valve so getting gas in that manor is probably not an option.

golfing eagles
06-19-2021, 09:07 AM
Yeah, that won't work.

Depending on the vehicle there are screens, check balls and a number of other anti-siphon/anti-tipover/anti-splashback measures.

Most cars have an anti siphon valve so getting gas in that manor is probably not an option.

Back in the day on TOTV, most people actually read the previous posts before utilizing their keyboard:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

GrumpyOldMan
06-19-2021, 09:10 AM
Got a link to just one of those "laws" not related to commercial storage?

I can't find Wildwood's laws or codes online, but here is Fort Lauderdale's. If you want to know what the laws are contact your local Fire Department:

http://fortlauderdale.elaws.us/code/cid10787/47-18.13/

Larchap49
06-19-2021, 09:11 AM
It's really funny how everyone is talking do's and don'ts of storing gasoline in the garage. No one is talking about the propane tanks of your barbeque being stored in the garage for 6 months. which I think much more dangerous Up north, you NEVER store a propane tank in an enclosed space.

Your propane tank sits on your grill for months on end in the Florida sun with no issue, thats the design so having them in the shaded garage would be a non issue.

Greenjade
06-19-2021, 09:13 AM
If your water heater is in the garage and it has a pilot light, how can you safely store gas in that space?
So storing gas in the garage is not a good idea by the recommended DIY advice.

My house up north has the water heater in the basement. So gas storage would be okay in my garage up there.

What does the local villages fire department feel about gas cans or propane tanks in the garage I wonder?

Larchap49
06-19-2021, 09:14 AM
Gas is stored in millions of gas tanks, in garages around the world. Your car has a gas tank, your golf cart has a gas tank, your lawn mower, weed whacker....... one more tank won't matter.

Ahhhh common sense prevails thank you

BarryD
06-19-2021, 09:24 AM
I’m leaning towards storing gas in the car’s tank. And when I need it just siphon it into the gas can and then whatever is not used siphon back. Any suggestions?

Most newer model cars and SUV’s have emergency valves that stop gas from draining out in the event of a roll-over. This valve also acts as a siphon prevention system which is the reason why nearly all the siphon devices and pumps sold these days are useless. That being said, there is a way to siphon gas from a modern car, you just need to know how to do it and have the right tools for the job.

stebooo
06-19-2021, 09:25 AM
Your garage!!!

kcrazorbackfan
06-19-2021, 03:33 PM
For 50yrs now, I’ve stored gas and in the garage, now a 2 one gallon, 1 two gallon and a five gallon along with a propane bottle, NEVER have had an issue; some of you sound like you’re trying to reinvent the wheel on storing gas advice.

JMintzer
06-19-2021, 03:46 PM
Back in the day on TOTV, most people actually read the previous posts before utilizing their keyboard:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/nw.gif

BlueHeronFan
06-19-2021, 04:02 PM
I have been mowing my own yard for 11+ years. I have always stored the gas can next to the mower. It's sealed. I also crack the garage window a few inches more for charging my electric cart and for ventilation. Close it for storms and when traveling.

jimhurtt@twc.com
06-19-2021, 10:55 PM
Newer automobiles now have a restriction in the gas tank neck (filler tube) that prevents a hose or tube from being inserted to siphon out the gas. I discovered this the hard way on a deserted highway.

golfing eagles
06-20-2021, 04:35 AM
Newer automobiles now have a restriction in the gas tank neck (filler tube) that prevents a hose or tube from being inserted to siphon out the gas. I discovered this the hard way on a deserted highway.

Please see post #40

Bay Kid
06-20-2021, 06:25 AM
The gas smell is enough reason not to store in my garage.

MandoMan
06-20-2021, 06:39 AM
In the garage where you probably have your mower and generator.

At the moment I am at my lakefront home in eastern Pennsylvania preparing it for sale so I can live in The Villages year around. Overlooking the lake are a dozen double-wide modular homes with garages. On May 31 a fire started in the garage of one home, spread to the garage of the one twenty feet away, and both houses were burned to the ground, apart from a a few charred walls. I don’t think the fire was caused by gas in a gas can, but there was definitely a gas can in each garage, and probably at some point that added to the fire and helped it spread to the next house. The fire chief said there was also propane burning from the lines running to the two 100 gallon tanks beside each home, though I don’t know that they actually exploded.

I suspect that a sturdy gas can in good condition in a garage is at least as safe as the gas tank in a car left in the blazing sun, or in a hot lawnmower, and I don’t see them on fire very often. However, I occasionally need to use a little shellac in the garage. I always leave the garage door open when I do that, and the paper towel I use to apply it is left open on gravel outside until the shellac has dried and the alcohol in it has evaporated. Just in case.

JMintzer
06-20-2021, 06:50 AM
The gas smell is enough reason not to store in my garage.

I've stored my snowblower and a regulation plastic gas "can" in my garage for decades.

What is this "smell" you speak of?

Bill14564
06-20-2021, 07:11 AM
The gas smell is enough reason not to store in my garage.

If you can smell gas in your garage then there is a problem that needs immediate attention!

If you are smelling gas then either some was spilled or fumes are escaping. The tank in your car won't let fumes escape, the tank in your golf cart won't let fumes escape, and a proper gas can won't let fumes escape. If fumes are escaping then there is a leak that needs to be fixed

Leadbone1
06-20-2021, 07:13 AM
Where can I store gasoline in gas can ready to use in mower or generator if I have an enclosed lanai?

Gee… how about garage????

Ewalsh43
06-20-2021, 08:17 AM
Reality, most of us store it wrong. Gasoline is highly flammable. Not only that but it oxidizes over time. The way an engine works, you spray gasoline vapor into an enclosed space, the cylinder, the spark plug, sparks and it starts an explosion driving the piston.

In an enclosed space, ie your garage the gasoline vaporizes. At high enough concentrations, fortunately not likely, you turn on the lights or anything makes a spark and explosion is possible-not likely. A generator will require a fair amount of gasoline.
Depending on what you need or want as well as budget. There are generators that run on gas as well as others that run on diesel which is not as explosive or easy to ignite as gasoline.

Few do it right. Most get away with it.

Do you have a car, or gas powered golf cart? Both of those store gasoline, and I are am sure they are stored in your garage. A proper 3-5 gallon plastic OSHA approved gas container with a sealing top is the same type of storage as your car or golf cart! If you notice a gasoline smell, the container seal is bad and you’ll need to replace the container. Put a small quantity of “Stabill” gas additive (you can buy online or at any automotive store) into the gasoline and it can be stored for 2 years, but I recommend using it before then.

TandHSTAR@AOL.com
06-20-2021, 08:38 AM
A few yards away from your house? So you are suggesting near your neighbor's house? Be he would love that LOL

GrumpyOldMan
06-20-2021, 08:49 AM
Do you have a car, or gas powered golf cart? Both of those store gasoline, and I are am sure they are stored in your garage. A proper 3-5 gallon plastic OSHA approved gas container with a sealing top is the same type of storage as your car or golf cart! If you notice a gasoline smell, the container seal is bad and you’ll need to replace the container. Put a small quantity of “Stabill” gas additive (you can buy online or at any automotive store) into the gasoline and it can be stored for 2 years, but I recommend using it before then.

Both the car and the golf cart are designed to "safely" store gasoline in a closed garage.

The problem with gasoline storage is twofold. One, storing LARGE amounts of gasoline can be a major safety issue in the case of fire. Most municipalities restrict the amount of gasoline you can store in a resident to 25 to 60 gallons.

The second problem is with cheap "gasoline containers" that allow fumes to leak out into the garage. The gasoline liquid is fairly difficult to ignite without a full-blown fire igniting it. However, gasoline fumes (vapors) are easy to ignite and are explosive.

Just because so many people say they have stored it for decades and never had a problem does not mean there are no potential problems. It is very important to make sure you don't go cheap on the gasoline container, and that you pay attention to the smell. If you can smell it, it can explode. Leaving a window slightly open helps, leaving the door slightly open helps. Or having a garage ventilation system (exhaust fan) helps. The goal is to prevent fumes as much as possible and to get the fumes out of the garage if they are there.

It is also recommended to not fill your mower or cart or whatever inside the garage, but to move them outside into the open air before filling - again, to avoid the accumulation of fumes/vapors.

richs631
06-20-2021, 09:16 AM
Where can I store gasoline in gas can ready to use in mower or generator if I have an enclosed lanai?

Please guys let’s not over analyze this. A 2 gallon can is more than enough to fill a standard lawn mower at least 4 times and is plenty safe to store in your garage. Your house is not going to blow up because you have a 2 gallon gas can stored

GrumpyOldMan
06-20-2021, 09:28 AM
Please guys let’s not over analyze this. A 2 gallon can is more than enough to fill a standard lawn mower at least 4 times and is plenty safe to store in your garage. Your house is not going to blow up because you have a 2 gallon gas can stored

If it is a gasoline storage can, that is not damaged. Two gallons is more than enough accelerant to burn your house down - but NOT if you take simple precautions.

Actually, the correct place for the OP to ask this question was at any fire station in TV.

If it is too hard to ask the Fire Department - here is some useful information:

http://ameriburn.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/gasolinesafetyeducatorsguide.pdf

MrFlorida
06-20-2021, 10:01 AM
I’m leaning towards storing gas in the car’s tank. And when I need it just siphon it into the gas can and then whatever is not used siphon back. Any suggestions?

You will not be able to siphon gas out of your car's tank, there is an anti rollover valve in the fill at the bottom near the tank.... a siphon hose will never be able to enter the tank.

Dimagolfer
06-20-2021, 11:51 AM
Storing gas containers 1 to 5 gal. in garages, barns, storage sheds, golf cart garage for 60 years with no issues!

Velvet
06-20-2021, 01:09 PM
If it is a gasoline storage can, that is not damaged. Two gallons is more than enough accelerant to burn your house down - but NOT if you take simple precautions.

Actually, the correct place for the OP to ask this question was at any fire station in TV.

If it is too hard to ask the Fire Department - here is some useful information:

http://ameriburn.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/gasolinesafetyeducatorsguide.pdf
Great idea. I will ask, next door neighbor is a retired fireman.

MrFlorida
06-20-2021, 02:13 PM
Buy a battery powered lawn mower , and sleep well at night.

golfing eagles
06-20-2021, 02:20 PM
You will not be able to siphon gas out of your car's tank, there is an anti rollover valve in the fill at the bottom near the tank.... a siphon hose will never be able to enter the tank.

Please read post #40, and get the person from post #51 to read it with you:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

GrumpyOldMan
06-20-2021, 02:35 PM
Storing gas containers 1 to 5 gal. in garages, barns, storage sheds, golf cart garage for 60 years with no issues!

Hmm, so, have you ever had an Aortic Aneurysm? If not, that must mean they don't happen.

GrumpyOldMan
06-20-2021, 02:36 PM
Buy a battery powered lawn mower , and sleep well at night.

EXCELLENT suggestion!

GrumpyOldMan
06-20-2021, 02:36 PM
Great idea. I will ask, next door neighbor is a retired fireman.

Good idea!

Bill14564
06-20-2021, 03:33 PM
Hmm, so, have you ever had an Aortic Aneurysm? If not, that must mean they don't happen.

Never been hit by falling space debris, never had a part off an airplane fall on my head, never been hit by a foul ball but I *could* wear a helmet 24 hours a day just in case.

I wonder if there is any data on the number of fires caused by the storage of five gals or less of gasoline in an approved container (gas can)? Not speculation on what *could* happen and not damage caused when a fire engulfed a gas can but a fire *caused* by the can. There have been a whole lot of people storing gas in this way for decades - if it was a problem then there ought to be statistics out there somewhere.

GrumpyOldMan
06-20-2021, 04:10 PM
Never been hit by falling space debris, never had a part off an airplane fall on my head, never been hit by a foul ball but I *could* wear a helmet 24 hours a day just in case.

I wonder if there is any data on the number of fires caused by the storage of five gals or less of gasoline in an approved container (gas can)? Not speculation on what *could* happen and not damage caused when a fire engulfed a gas can but a fire *caused* by the can. There have been a whole lot of people storing gas in this way for decades - if it was a problem then there ought to be statistics out there somewhere.

I don't know if there is data on the number of fires caused by 5 gals or more. B ut I do know the fire department takes storing gasoline very seriously, and that numerous residential fires are caused every year by flammable liquids.

"According to the NFPA, every year more than 50,000 fires start as the result of flammable gas while more than 160,000 fires start as the result of a flammable or combustible liquid. Combined, flammable and combustible liquids and gases cause more than $2.1 billion worth of property damage and more than 600 deaths annually."

So, at 3,000 AAA's (Abdominal Aortic Aneurysms) deaths per year, there are more house fires caused by flammable liquids than those, but I bet your doctor would take your AAA very seriously - ask me how I know...

Effects of Fire | Home Fire Statistics | The Hartford (https://www.thehartford.com/about-us/junior-fire-marshal/the-power-of-fire)

Bill14564
06-20-2021, 09:34 PM
I don't know if there is data on the number of fires caused by 5 gals or more. B ut I do know the fire department takes storing gasoline very seriously, and that numerous residential fires are caused every year by flammable liquids.

"According to the NFPA, every year more than 50,000 fires start as the result of flammable gas while more than 160,000 fires start as the result of a flammable or combustible liquid. Combined, flammable and combustible liquids and gases cause more than $2.1 billion worth of property damage and more than 600 deaths annually."

So, at 3,000 AAA's (Abdominal Aortic Aneurysms) deaths per year, there are more house fires caused by flammable liquids than those, but I bet your doctor would take your AAA very seriously - ask me how I know...

Effects of Fire | Home Fire Statistics | The Hartford (https://www.thehartford.com/about-us/junior-fire-marshal/the-power-of-fire)

NFPA Fact Sheet (https://www.nfpa.org/-/media/Files/News-and-Research/Fire-statistics-and-reports/Fact-sheets/FiresStartingGasFactSheet.pdf) on flammable gas and combustible liquids fires:
- 50,000 flammable gas fires nearly all involve natural gas, LP-gas, or unknown-type gas
- 160,000 combustible liquid fires include 55,000 fires at home
- gasoline involved in 6% combustible liquid first ignited in home structure fires = approximately 3,300 gasoline-ignited home fires
- no mention of whether gasoline was stored in approved containers

NFPA article on hoarding gasoline (https://www.nfpa.org/News-and-Research/Publications-and-media/Blogs-Landing-Page/NFPA-Today/Blog-Posts/2021/05/13/Stories-of-gasoline-hoarding-raise-fire-safety-concerns), May 31,2021:
These same listed, labeled, and approved containers with a cap are the only suitable way to store gasoline in garages and sheds.
...
Store gasoline in a tightly capped container that has been listed, labeled, and approved for gasoline.
Store the container outside the home in your garage or garden shed, never in your basement.


So about 1.5% (3,300/year) of home fires caused by flammable gas or liquids were attributed to gasoline. However, there was no mention of whether the gasoline was stored in approved containers.

The NFPA recommends approved containers when storing gasoline in a garage.

TCNY61
06-20-2021, 10:09 PM
Buy a battery powered lawn mower , and sleep well at night.

Maybe not so much!

Tesla set itself on fire and exploded in Shanghai China! - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAQlLu5ttOk)

GrumpyOldMan
06-20-2021, 11:33 PM
Maybe not so much!

Tesla set itself on fire and exploded in Shanghai China! - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAQlLu5ttOk)

I hope this was in jest.

About 250 million miles per fire with Tesla's. Wanna look at how many ICE power cars burst into flame.

Freaking amazing.

Mrprez
06-21-2021, 04:23 AM
The house behind us caught fire due to a recharging battery left in the sun. Owners were out of the house for a year.

Full-timer
06-21-2021, 05:47 AM
Where can I store gasoline in gas can ready to use in mower or generator if I have an enclosed lanai?

Wow, I see some crazy answers to this. A proper gas container with the proper lids and caps on it and used can be safely stored in the garage. It is that simple. Keep it out of the sun (in your garage) so it will not bloat when warmed up.

Nick B
06-21-2021, 06:33 AM
Where can I store gasoline in gas can ready to use in mower or generator if I have an enclosed lanai?
Today's new cans are not vented no fumes. Put it in garage where it belongs.

nn0wheremann
06-25-2021, 06:40 AM
Some of you guys with your gas storage questions are as far out as Mars. Just by your suggestions I can tell some of you never lived in rural areas and don't know how many Americans live day to day. You put your gas where you need to and where you want to when you don't worry about it as long as you got a decent can.

Anywhere outside is acceptable for the gasoline itself it's just a matter of whether you want to break the rules according to some here. I love the idea of a deck box that someone suggested right out of the chute. The risk of an explosion and all the scary tactics that they put on year is BS when it's outside.
Your car, unless it is a very old antique has a vapor recovery system, so does not leak fuel vapors into the garage. Your golf cart does not. It sits there with up to seven gallons of gasoline changing temperature in the tank every day as the garage heats up and cools down. Get a good UL listed gas can (try WalMart or Ace ) that meets ANSI/ASTM standard F852-99, keep the vent closed and lid on tight and live life. You might notice the sides expand when it is very hot, and contract when cold. No significant vapor leakage.

Topspinmo
06-25-2021, 06:58 AM
Today's new cans are not vented no fumes. Put it in garage where it belongs.

I’ve never seen gas can that was vented? Why would vent something that holds vaporization fluid? You had to remove, loosen something, or take the cap off and pull the self venting spout out. Even the older plastic gas cans had little cap to remove to allow air in when pouring. But, there was no open vent unless you left the cap off and if you did you smelled gas vapors.

Topspinmo
06-25-2021, 07:13 AM
A few yards away from your house? So you are suggesting near your neighbor's house? Be he would love that LOL

Yes, like neighbor that barbecue’s on propane grill In CYV setting 10” from neighbors house wall with back facing wall with heat running up wall to roof. But the nothing in restrictions about that, but pages of minor Bs.