View Full Version : To the arrogant male driver on Meggison rd today at 9 am driving his Lexus
Cobullymom
06-22-2021, 11:11 AM
To the man who felt it was his need to be the traffic police and block me while I was honking and waving my arms as he decided to bock the left hand lane this morning, I hope your proud of yourself! What started as a quick drive to get my sister who was helping me in the yard in our home in Monarch Grove a ride to ER at Brownwood. She developed hives on her and was itching, which has happened before. So we jumped in the car and headed that way, suddenly her airway was getting compromised, just before the water Lilly bridge area, so things were getting urgent, I knew I was only a little over a mile or so from the ER We decided to continue on versus calling 911 we came up on two cars on in each lane and I drove up behind the Lexus in the left and started frantically honking my horn and waving my arms to move, I honked several times to no avail not only did he not move forward he slowed down and held me so I could not get by. We followed him honking and waving frantically neither car would move just kept riding side-by-side as if to try to tell me to slow down like it was their job, Instead of wondering gee, why are they so frantic honking and waving!! I was finally able to get by them at the last traffic circle and rushed to the ER by the time we arrive my sister was having great difficulty breathing and they took her back immediately. My point is not everyone who is in a hurry is just being an inpatient jerk, Sometimes there is true emergencies and at that point we were doing what anybody would do for their own family I hope you are proud of yourself for acting like an arrogant idiot because you not only kept us from passing, but you turned looked right at me as we tried to go by like it was your job to hold me back… thankfully we arrived just in the nick of time, but if it had been a longer ride things may have been different think twice about it before you believe you are the road police. And no I don’t need any lectures on driving her because I am a nurse of 30 years and at the point we left the house she was not having breathing issues we just we’re heading that way quickly but things changed.
retiredguy123
06-22-2021, 11:47 AM
I understand your frustration. But, the driver had no way of knowing where your were going and why. And, honking and waving at a driver is a surefire way to get a driver to slow down, not change lanes, and not let you in. It is pretty typical behavior on the road today.
Road-Runner
06-22-2021, 11:53 AM
I understand your frustration. But, the driver had no way of knowing where your were going and why. And, honking and waving at a driver is a surefire way to get a driver to slow down, not change lanes, and not let you in. It is pretty typical behavior on the road today.
How do you like your Lexus? (kidding!) Unfortunately, I agree. I might have reacted the same way myself without considering a situation like this could be happening. If it ever does I'll move over now that I've had the time to think about it. Thank you OP, I'm glad you're sister is OK.
GrumpyOldMan
06-22-2021, 12:06 PM
Sadly, it is the way things are right now, I am surprised there is not more road rage even.
golfing eagles
06-22-2021, 12:15 PM
Sadly, it is the way things are right now, I am surprised there is not more road rage even.
The OP needed to learn how to perform a pick manuever:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
Gpsma
06-22-2021, 12:17 PM
Honking and waving your hands didnt help the situation.
I do notice that many here will drive at the same speed in the left lane as someone next to thwm in the right lane.
I also notice, and not sure if its my misconception, but when snowbirds are here traffic level is higher but it moves. When the off-season comes there are a lot of very, very slow drivers..sometimes doing no more thwn 25 on major roads. Anyone else notice that?
golfing eagles
06-22-2021, 12:36 PM
because you not only kept us from passing, but you turned looked right at me as we tried to go by like it was your job to hold me back…
I do notice that many here will drive at the same speed in the left lane as someone next to them in the right lane.
Actually, Florida law is quite clear on this subject. If you are in the left lane and someone wants to pass, you are REQUIRED, BY LAW, to move over. Even if you are going over the speed limit and someone wants to pass, you ARE STILL REQUIRED to move over. YOU are not the police!. YOU do not get to enforce traffic laws! YOU do not get to dictate my speed! It reminds me of someone who posted a few years ago that he always drives in the left lane of 466 at 30 mph (in the 45 zone) because HE feels that is fast enough!
All I can say is that if my wife was having the kind of medical emergency described by the OP, I WOULD run you right off the road and into a ditch if you didn't let me pass, and I wouldn't even look back.
wisbad1
06-22-2021, 12:40 PM
Actually, Florida law is quite clear on this subject. If you are in the left lane and someone wants to pass, you are REQUIRED, BY LAW, to move over. Even if you are going over the speed limit and someone wants to pass, you ARE STILL REQUIRED to move over. YOU are not the police!. YOU do not get to enforce traffic laws! YOU do not get to dictate my speed! It reminds me of someone who posted a few years ago that he always drives in the left lane of 466 at 30 mph (in the 45 zone) because HE feels that is fast enough!
All I can say is that if my wife was having the kind of medical emergency described by the OP, I WOULD run you right off the road and into a ditch if you didn't let me pass, and I wouldn't even look back.
Wrong, true on interstate not in town
Taltarzac725
06-22-2021, 12:40 PM
You might want to try easier routes that avoid roundabouts. 301, 466, 472, etc.
Cobullymom
06-22-2021, 12:44 PM
Actually, Florida law is quite clear on this subject. If you are in the left lane and someone wants to pass, you are REQUIRED, BY LAW, to move over. Even if you are going over the speed limit and someone wants to pass, you ARE STILL REQUIRED to move over. YOU are not the police!. YOU do not get to enforce traffic laws! YOU do not get to dictate my speed! It reminds me of someone who posted a few years ago that he always drives in the left lane of 466 at 30 mph (in the 45 zone) because HE feels that is fast enough!
All I can say is that if my wife was having the kind of medical emergency described by the OP, I WOULD run you right off the road and into a ditch if you didn't let me pass, and I wouldn't even look back.
Thank you, I’d like to know what anybody else thinks I was supposed to do it’s not like I could pull them over and say please get out of the way, flashing your lights does nothing! I did with any panicked sane individual would do honking the horn waving my arms and hoping to God that people would have some common sense to understand that I am not just some nut job, it is an emergency!! Also besides the fact that right at the very end of Meggison Road sits the ER so maybe as I am writing this it will make other people think…It’s easy for people to sit and criticize, but that man deliberately held me up as if to chastise me and play the police!! Well you sit there with your sister or family having difficulty breathing in the seat and tell me how you would react???
davem4616
06-22-2021, 12:45 PM
glad you were able to get your sister help and that she's fine now
playing 'speed police' is a dangerous game
Cobullymom
06-22-2021, 12:49 PM
I understand your frustration. But, the driver had no way of knowing where your were going and why. And, honking and waving at a driver is a surefire way to get a driver to slow down, not change lanes, and not let you in. It is pretty typical behavior on the road today.
No he should’ve realized something was happening and just got out of the way instead of deciding to be the road police!! I had every right to honk my horn in an emergency situation and you can sit there and tell me I shouldn’t have done it, but you tell me just what exactly would you do???
Cobullymom
06-22-2021, 12:49 PM
glad you were able to get your sister help and that she's fine now
playing 'speed police' is a dangerous game
Thank you.
Gpsma
06-22-2021, 12:50 PM
All I can say is that if my wife was having the kind of medical emergency described by the OP, I WOULD run you right off the road and into a ditch if you didn't let me pass, and I wouldn't even look back.
I know you are given to a lot of bloviation in your posts...but you arent driving anyone off the road.
Spend some of your scheckles and get an ambulance.
Cobullymom
06-22-2021, 12:50 PM
You might want to try easier routes that avoid roundabouts. 301, 466, 472, etc.
That is by far the quickest route from warm Springs down Meggison, directly to the ER the other way would’ve taken me much longer…
Cobullymom
06-22-2021, 12:51 PM
I know you are given to a lot of bloviation in your posts...but you arent driving anyone off the road.
Spend some of your scheckles and get an ambulance.
You apparently did not read my post.. at the time we left the house it was not an emergency it was just a very uncomfortable situation for her, but became an emergency on the way so you don’t just call an ambulance for someone with hives..
Cobullymom
06-22-2021, 12:53 PM
Honking and waving your hands didnt help the situation.
I do notice that many here will drive at the same speed in the left lane as someone next to thwm in the right lane.
I also notice, and not sure if its my misconception, but when snowbirds are here traffic level is higher but it moves. When the off-season comes there are a lot of very, very slow drivers..sometimes doing no more thwn 25 on major roads. Anyone else notice that?
Honking and waving my hand didn’t help the situation? Just what exactly did you think I was supposed to do, drive 25 miles an hour while my sister was having difficulty breathing give me a break….
Cobullymom
06-22-2021, 12:54 PM
How do you like your Lexus? (kidding!) Unfortunately, I agree. I might have reacted the same way myself without considering a situation like this could be happening. If it ever does I'll move over now that I've had the time to think about it. Thank you OP, I'm glad you're sister is OK.
Thank you…
Cobullymom
06-22-2021, 12:56 PM
I understand your frustration. But, the driver had no way of knowing where your were going and why. And, honking and waving at a driver is a surefire way to get a driver to slow down, not change lanes, and not let you in. It is pretty typical behavior on the road today.
It wasn’t just frustration, It was an emergency and even though I would find it annoying at first if someone continue to honk their horn and wave their arms at me something would trigger me to think Gee maybe there is an emergency and move over I have never felt the need to be the road police for those who want to pass me
Taltarzac725
06-22-2021, 12:59 PM
You apparently did not read my post.. at the time we left the house it was not an emergency it was just a very uncomfortable situation for her, but became an emergency on the way so you don’t just call an ambulance for someone with hives..
I would call 911 given the drivers here in the Villages. I have been scolded a few times though for calling 911 too often. They can usually handle some of the medical situations. They only had to take a house member twice to the hospital due to my calling them and then their evaluation of the circumstances. Have to use in house care givers now with calls to our physicians.
Two Bills
06-22-2021, 01:05 PM
Got to agree with golfing-eagles on this one.
Were it my wife in such a condition, one or both of the other cars would have been off the road.
F*** the consequences.
golfing eagles
06-22-2021, 01:05 PM
Wrong, true on interstate not in town
NOT WRONG!!!!!!
Here is the entire statute:
316.081 Driving on right side of roadway; exceptions.—
(1) Upon all roadways of sufficient width, a vehicle shall be driven upon the right half of the roadway, except as follows:
(a) When overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction under the rules governing such movement;
(b) When an obstruction exists making it necessary to drive to the left of the center of the highway; provided any person so doing shall yield the right-of-way to all vehicles traveling in the proper direction upon the unobstructed portion of the highway within such distance as to constitute an immediate hazard;
(c) Upon a roadway divided into three marked lanes for traffic under the rules applicable thereon; or
(d) Upon a roadway designated and signposted for one-way traffic.
(2) Upon all roadways, any vehicle proceeding at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall be driven in the right-hand lane then available for traffic or as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway except when overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction or when preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway.
(3) On a road, street, or highway having two or more lanes allowing movement in the same direction, a driver may not continue to operate a motor vehicle in the furthermost left-hand lane if the driver knows or reasonably should know that he or she is being overtaken in that lane from the rear by a motor vehicle traveling at a higher rate of speed. This subsection does not apply to drivers operating a vehicle that is overtaking another vehicle proceeding in the same direction, or is preparing for a left turn at an intersection.
(4) Upon any roadway having four or more lanes for moving traffic and providing for two-way movement of traffic, no vehicle shall be driven to the left of the centerline of the roadway, except when authorized by official traffic control devices designating certain lanes to the left side of the center of the roadway for use by traffic not otherwise permitted to use such lanes, or except as permitted under paragraph (1)(b). However, this subsection shall not be construed as prohibiting the crossing of the centerline in making a left turn into or from an alley, private road, or driveway.
(5) A violation of this section is a noncriminal traffic infraction, punishable as a moving violation as provided in chapter 318.
So again, NOT WRONG!!!!
Note the phrase "road, street or highway"
No mention of "interstate" vs. "in town"
golfing eagles
06-22-2021, 01:07 PM
I know you are given to a lot of bloviation in your posts...but you arent driving anyone off the road.
Spend some of your scheckles and get an ambulance.
Well, I'd say more hyperbole than bloviation, but yeah, you caught me. (although there are others that might actually do it)
blueash
06-22-2021, 01:10 PM
Glad your sister was ok. BUT, Most people who have itchy hives don't need to go to the ER, they take an antihistamine or apply some OTC cortisone. But you recognized that your sister is not one of those people because maybe she's had bad situations before. Why doesn't she have an epipen?? Get one and have it on hand for the next time, please.
GrumpyOldMan
06-22-2021, 01:13 PM
Actually, Florida law is quite clear on this subject. If you are in the left lane and someone wants to pass, you are REQUIRED, BY LAW, to move over. Even if you are going over the speed limit and someone wants to pass, you ARE STILL REQUIRED to move over. YOU are not the police!. YOU do not get to enforce traffic laws! YOU do not get to dictate my speed! It reminds me of someone who posted a few years ago that he always drives in the left lane of 466 at 30 mph (in the 45 zone) because HE feels that is fast enough!
All I can say is that if my wife was having the kind of medical emergency described by the OP, I WOULD run you right off the road and into a ditch if you didn't let me pass, and I wouldn't even look back.
If someone is going slower than traffic and is not going the speed limit then they can be cited for that but,
Florida law does say that it is illegal to break the speed limit even to pass.
We have been around this tree OVER AND OVER.
And yes, let's condone/promote road rage and assulating someone with a deadly weapon - an automobile.
Cobullymom
06-22-2021, 01:18 PM
Glad your sister was ok. BUT, Most people who have itchy hives don't need to go to the ER, they take an antihistamine or apply some OTC cortisone. But you recognized that your sister is not one of those people because maybe she's had bad situations before. Why doesn't she have an epipen?? Get one and have it on hand for the next time, please.
Thank you for your concern but she hasn’t had an episode where her throat his closed before. I have had hives numerous times, you don’t use an EpiPen for hives. I gave her2 Benadryl before we left, again I am a nurse for 30 years I’m quite aware of the situation, her hives were quite Extensive very quickly but when it changed on route I knew we needed to hurry. She now has a prescription for an EpiPen, you don’t just go to the store and buy them..
TheLawnKing
06-22-2021, 01:26 PM
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Bill14564
06-22-2021, 01:37 PM
If someone is going slower than traffic and is not going the speed limit then they can be cited for that but,
Florida law does say that it is illegal to break the speed limit even to pass.
We have been around this tree OVER AND OVER.
And yes, let's condone/promote road rage and assulating someone with a deadly weapon - an automobile.
So it seems Florida law says you can be cited for driving under the speed limit and blocking traffic,
And it seems Florida law says that it is illegal to break the speed limit even to pass,
But Florida law also says you must move to the right to allow a faster vehicle to get around you (except in two specific cases).
Florida law does not ask you to determine if you are driving under the speed limit or if they are exceeding the speed limit; you are not the cop. Florida law simply says if you are in the left hand lane and the vehicle behind you is closer than the vehicle in front of you then *you* are the slower vehicle and should move to the right. It can't get any easier than that.
DAVES
06-22-2021, 01:40 PM
To the man who felt it was his need to be the traffic police and block me while I was honking and waving my arms as he decided to bock the left hand lane this morning, I hope your proud of yourself! What started as a quick drive to get my sister who was helping me in the yard in our home in Monarch Grove a ride to ER at Brownwood. She developed hives on her and was itching, which has happened before. So we jumped in the car and headed that way, suddenly her airway was getting compromised, just before the water Lilly bridge area, so things were getting urgent, I knew I was only a little over a mile or so from the ER We decided to continue on versus calling 911 we came up on two cars on in each lane and I drove up behind the Lexus in the left and started frantically honking my horn and waving my arms to move, I honked several times to no avail not only did he not move forward he slowed down and held me so I could not get by. We followed him honking and waving frantically neither car would move just kept riding side-by-side as if to try to tell me to slow down like it was their job, Instead of wondering gee, why are they so frantic honking and waving!! I was finally able to get by them at the last traffic circle and rushed to the ER by the time we arrive my sister was having great difficulty breathing and they took her back immediately. My point is not everyone who is in a hurry is just being an inpatient jerk, Sometimes there is true emergencies and at that point we were doing what anybody would do for their own family I hope you are proud of yourself for acting like an arrogant idiot because you not only kept us from passing, but you turned looked right at me as we tried to go by like it was your job to hold me back… thankfully we arrived just in the nick of time, but if it had been a longer ride things may have been different think twice about it before you believe you are the road police. And no I don’t need any lectures on driving her because I am a nurse of 30 years and at the point we left the house she was not having breathing issues we just we’re heading that way quickly but things changed.
Read the posts to realize reality. These people are the same ones on the road.
Truth, clearly a better choice would have been to call for help. EMT they would have oxygen etc. A nurse, so what, can you drive and aid your sister at the same time? Among other things the hospitals give priority to people who arrive by ambulance.
Hives, itching? A guess your sister is allergic to something, a plant, an insect or? "It has happened before." Should find out why and what to do about it.
The good news, thankfully it ended well-THIS TIME.
Gpsma
06-22-2021, 01:44 PM
Wonder if the OP was driving with her hazard lights on.
kcrazorbackfan
06-22-2021, 01:49 PM
The OP needed to learn how to perform a pick manuever:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
“Pit” maneuver. And yes, I’ve done it several times on vehicles I was pursuing.
retiredguy123
06-22-2021, 01:50 PM
My thoughts on this subject:
1. There's no excuse for this jerk's behavior - none! Who does he think he is?
2. Anyone who makes excuses for this I'm idiot is just as stupid (not ignorant, I chose stupid on purpose).
3. Let me inform the uninformed. The statute covering left lane driving is:
316.081 Driving on right side of roadway; exceptions.—
(3) On a road, street, or highway having two or more lanes allowing movement in the same direction, a driver may not continue to operate a motor vehicle in the furthermost left-hand lane if the driver knows or reasonably should know that he or she is being overtaken in that lane from the rear by a motor vehicle traveling at a higher rate of speed. This subsection does not apply to drivers operating a vehicle that is overtaking another vehicle proceeding in the same direction or is preparing for a left turn at an intersection.
Which would mean I would not have to move over if I was going to turn left a short distance ahead (like a lot of roads in The Villages).
4. If it were me, I'd be in the same area, at the same time tommorow and wait until I saw the Lexus. I'd do nothing more than follow it. I'm retired...and a vengeful scorpion. Who knows who this guy is, or where he works (a minister or personal injury lawyer...who knows?)? I'd be curious to know.
5. Anybody who has to consistently sign their posts with :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: is annoying and generally has miniscule content.
I didn't see any posts that made excuses for the other driver's actions.
bimmertl
06-22-2021, 01:52 PM
The OP needed to learn how to perform a pick manuever:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
A "pit" maneuver might have worked even better.
Dond1959
06-22-2021, 02:35 PM
Anyone who is coming up fast behind me I will always move over for a simple reason, I do not want them tailgating me. Let them go on. Agree with the post using emergency flashers will usually work if it is an emergency. But of course there are always those few who can’t stand to let anyone pass them.
I am glad it turned out okay for OP and I hope the guy in the Lexus will read this and change his driving behavior.
DAVES
06-22-2021, 04:36 PM
You apparently did not read my post.. at the time we left the house it was not an emergency it was just a very uncomfortable situation for her, but became an emergency on the way so you don’t just call an ambulance for someone with hives..
I had nothing to do with it. Original post in all cases we only get one side of every story.
Reality is often different. "You don't just call an ambulance for someone with hives."
Nor do you take them to an emergency room. Seems you knew it was more than hives.
Aside, re: black lexus. The other day in the rain some guy in a black lexus blocked the road to get out of his car to carry a turtle to the other side of the road. Both stupid and nice. Who knows, same person?
DAVES
06-22-2021, 04:51 PM
That is by far the quickest route from warm Springs down Meggison, directly to the ER the other way would’ve taken me much longer…
As I've said several times some people always think they are right. Projection is the psychological term for people who think everyone else is guilty of how they are.
graciegirl
06-22-2021, 05:09 PM
No he should’ve realized something was happening and just got out of the way instead of deciding to be the road police!! I had every right to honk my horn in an emergency situation and you can sit there and tell me I shouldn’t have done it, but you tell me just what exactly would you do???
I would have called 911 and told them I was heading toward emergency and why. I would have seen that if your sister is a frequent visitor and she has now reacted twice to something that made her airways begin to close, that you and she carried epinephrine. I would have asked 911 to have the ambulance to try and intercept you on the trip.
I am very glad she is alright. You were frustrated and frightened and it didn't go the way you hoped it would.
spd2918
06-22-2021, 05:21 PM
I'm a retired police officer, EMT, police driving instructor, and someone who carries an epinephrine pen due to allergic reactions.
My advice is this: If someone needs emergency medical attention then call 911 and tell them where you are. Let those with the property training, equipment, and mental state do the driving. People in crisis are horrible drivers, they make poor decisions, and are at risk of hurting themselves, the person they are "helping," and everyone else on the road. Many times I drove parents to the ER when their kids were in the ambulance because they are too emotional or distracted to drive.
I'm not picking on the author as I have no clue what happened.
GrumpyOldMan
06-22-2021, 08:27 PM
I'm a retired police officer, EMT, police driving instructor, and someone who carries an epinephrine pen due to allergic reactions.
My advice is this: If someone needs emergency medical attention then call 911 and tell them where you are. Let those with the property training, equipment, and mental state do the driving. People in crisis are horrible drivers, they make poor decisions, and are at risk of hurting themselves, the person they are "helping," and everyone else on the road. Many times I drove parents to the ER when their kids were in the ambulance because they are too emotional or distracted to drive.
I'm not picking on the author as I have no clue what happened.
Excellent advice, thank you for a sanity check.
DBChris
06-23-2021, 04:44 AM
The OP needed to learn how to perform a pick manuever:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
It's actually a PIT maneuver. Precision Immobilization Technique.
Coal Miner
06-23-2021, 04:50 AM
I dont know of any place that so many people drive slow in the left lane and refuse to move over. Just another trait of the privileged and inconsiderate.
Cobullymom
06-23-2021, 04:53 AM
Read the posts to realize reality. These people are the same ones on the road.
Truth, clearly a better choice would have been to call for help. EMT they would have oxygen etc. A nurse, so what, can you drive and aid your sister at the same time? Among other things the hospitals give priority to people who arrive by ambulance.
Hives, itching? A guess your sister is allergic to something, a plant, an insect or? "It has happened before." Should find out why and what to do about it.
The good news, thankfully it ended well-THIS TIME.
Realized that some people continue to condone arrogance and not understand. Oh and I’m not repeating myself again…I didn’t ask for medical advice. Must be a man thing, difficultly reading and acceptance that it was a male driver…
Cobullymom
06-23-2021, 05:06 AM
Excellent advice, thank you for a sanity check.
And I was an EMT and a Nurse, and repeating myself again, I was about 7 mins from the ER from my home, to call EMS would have taken at least that to get there. She had hives, not considered an Emergency. My sister was not having a crisis when we left, I gave benedryl before we left and her husband was in the car as well, so no I wasn’t alone…Things changed, on route and as I stated several times, my point was to say, if someone is honking and waving their arms, don’t just assume it’s an irrational driver, it’s not your job to be the road police, move over…I DIDN’T NEED MEDICAL ADVICE, even though some feel that need.
jimmy o
06-23-2021, 05:17 AM
[QUOTE=Cobullymom;1963499]To the man who felt it was his need to be the traffic police and block me while I was honking and waving my arms as he decided to bock the left hand lane this morning, I hope your proud of yourself! What started as a quick drive to get my sister who was helping me in the yard in our home in Monarch Grove a ride to ER at Brownwood. She developed hives on her and was itching, which has happened before. So we jumped in the car and headed that way, suddenly her airway was getting compromised, just before the water Lilly bridge area, so things were getting urgent, I knew I was only a little over a mile or so from the ER We decided to continue on versus calling 911 we came up on two cars on in each lane and I drove up behind the Lexus in the left and started frantically honking my horn and waving my arms to move, I honked several times to no avail not only did he not move forward he slowed down and held me so I could not get by. We followed him honking and waving frantically neither car would move just kept riding side-by-side as if to try to tell me to slow down like it was their job, Instead of wondering gee, why are they so frantic honking and waving!! I was finally able to get by them at the last traffic circle and rushed to the ER by the time we arrive my sister was having great difficulty breathing and they took her back immediately. My point is not everyone who is in a hurry is just being an inpatient jerk, Sometimes there is true emergencies and at that point we were doing what anybody would do for their own family I hope you are proud of yourself for acting like an arrogant idiot because you not only kept us from passing, but you turned looked right at me as we tried to go by like it was your job to hold me back… thankfully we arrived just in the nick of time, but if it had been a longer ride things may have been different think twice about it before you believe you are the road police. And no I don’t need any lectures on driving her because I am a nurse of 30 years and at the point we left the house she was not having breathing issues we just we’re heading that way quickly but things changed.[/QUOTE
Your situation has made me think. Maybe honking S O S would have worked. Probable not but maybe. Self appointed road police are always jerks.
Cobullymom
06-23-2021, 05:20 AM
I would have called 911 and told them I was heading toward emergency and why. I would have seen that if your sister is a frequent visitor and she has now reacted twice to something that made her airways begin to close, that you and she carried epinephrine. I would have asked 911 to have the ambulance to try and intercept you on the trip.
I am very glad she is alright. You were frustrated and frightened and it didn't go the way you hoped it would.
As I’ve stated multiple times, she was NOT a frequent visitor, she has had hives before, she has not had this type of severe reaction before…and YOU DON’T GET AN EPI PEN UNLESS YOU HAVE HAD THIS BEFORE. They are not over the counter! So everyone who keeps tell me this, obviously if we had one I would have used it, if she had this type response before I would have called 911 first. I’ve had hives NUMEROUS times in my life and never had a breathing issue. As I’ve stated repeatedly, I don’t need medical advice, my point was to say if someone is behind you driving and honking repeatedly don’t assume they are just an irrational driver, move over your not the road police. Thank you.
photo1902
06-23-2021, 05:22 AM
I would have called 911 and told them I was heading toward emergency and why. I would have seen that if your sister is a frequent visitor and she has now reacted twice to something that made her airways begin to close, that you and she carried epinephrine. I would have asked 911 to have the ambulance to try and intercept you on the trip.
I am very glad she is alright. You were frustrated and frightened and it didn't go the way you hoped it would.
This has to be one of the most whacked out responses I’ve seen. I don’t even know where to start. Have the ambulance try and intercept you enroute? Seriously?
jimmy o
06-23-2021, 05:30 AM
To the man who felt it was his need to be the traffic police and block me while I was honking and waving my arms as he decided to bock the left hand lane this morning, I hope your proud of yourself! What started as a quick drive to get my sister who was helping me in the yard in our home in Monarch Grove a ride to ER at Brownwood. She developed hives on her and was itching, which has happened before. So we jumped in the car and headed that way, suddenly her airway was getting compromised, just before the water Lilly bridge area, so things were getting urgent, I knew I was only a little over a mile or so from the ER We decided to continue on versus calling 911 we came up on two cars on in each lane and I drove up behind the Lexus in the left and started frantically honking my horn and waving my arms to move, I honked several times to no avail not only did he not move forward he slowed down and held me so I could not get by. We followed him honking and waving frantically neither car would move just kept riding side-by-side as if to try to tell me to slow down like it was their job, Instead of wondering gee, why are they so frantic honking and waving!! I was finally able to get by them at the last traffic circle and rushed to the ER by the time we arrive my sister was having great difficulty breathing and they took her back immediately. My point is not everyone who is in a hurry is just being an inpatient jerk, Sometimes there is true emergencies and at that point we were doing what anybody would do for their own family I hope you are proud of yourself for acting like an arrogant idiot because you not only kept us from passing, but you turned looked right at me as we tried to go by like it was your job to hold me back… thankfully we arrived just in the nick of time, but if it had been a longer ride things may have been different think twice about it before you believe you are the road police. And no I don’t need any lectures on driving her because I am a nurse of 30 years and at the point we left the house she was not having breathing issues we just we’re heading that way quickly but things changed.
Possible solution: Honk SOS … - - - … Maybe that would have worked. Probably not but maybe. Road police are always jerks.
dewilson58
06-23-2021, 05:31 AM
Your situation has made me think. Maybe honking S O S would have worked.
Now that's funny. :clap2:
Professor
06-23-2021, 05:37 AM
While it may be common to do so these days, it doesn't make it right. What happened to common courtesy?
banjobob
06-23-2021, 05:37 AM
An issue on occasion brain dead drivers driving side by side down two lane road. , courtesy is to speed up and pass or slow down and follow get out of the left lane you idiot.
Hiltongrizz11
06-23-2021, 05:46 AM
If someone is going slower than traffic and is not going the speed limit then they can be cited for that but,
Florida law does say that it is illegal to break the speed limit even to pass.
We have been around this tree OVER AND OVER.
And yes, let's condone/promote road rage and assulating someone with a deadly weapon - an automobile.
If You are in the left lane and doing the speed limit and someone's on your butt then you are the slower traffic. That's very clear: SLOWER traffic. You are not speed enforcement you are not top dog You are now impeding traffic. Speed limit is irrelevant and you don't get to decide.
Move your butt over.
Florida law.doesnt say that old people get to do want they want or any number of things. Common sense is to prevail. Well it shouldn't have to spell out every little implication. And I cannot believe that's how you interpret it that just because you do the speed limit you're justified and extended stay in the left lane hotel.
roob1
06-23-2021, 05:57 AM
I drove an ambulance for 10 years. Occasionally ambulances will meet the patient enroute; many factors dictate this need.
This has to be one of the most whacked out responses I’ve seen. I don’t even know where to start. Have the ambulance try and intercept you enroute? Seriously?
photo1902
06-23-2021, 06:03 AM
I drove an ambulance for 10 years. Occasionally ambulances will meet the patient enroute; many factors dictate this need.
I’m very well aware of that. The OP was driving from Monarch Grove to Brownwood, on Meggison. In the time it took to place the call, have the dispatcher ask all the questions following their protocol, dispatch an ambulance, etc, it’s a safe bet the OP would’ve long since arrived at the ER.
We’re not talking about being in a rural area where an ER is 45 minutes away.
oemsp1
06-23-2021, 06:05 AM
To the man who felt it was his need to be the traffic police and block me while I was honking and waving my arms as he decided to bock the left hand lane this morning, I hope your proud of yourself! What started as a quick drive to get my sister who was helping me in the yard in our home in Monarch Grove a ride to ER at Brownwood. She developed hives on her and was itching, which has happened before. So we jumped in the car and headed that way, suddenly her airway was getting compromised, just before the water Lilly bridge area, so things were getting urgent, I knew I was only a little over a mile or so from the ER We decided to continue on versus calling 911 we came up on two cars on in each lane and I drove up behind the Lexus in the left and started frantically honking my horn and waving my arms to move, I honked several times to no avail not only did he not move forward he slowed down and held me so I could not get by. We followed him honking and waving frantically neither car would move just kept riding side-by-side as if to try to tell me to slow down like it was their job, Instead of wondering gee, why are they so frantic honking and waving!! I was finally able to get by them at the last traffic circle and rushed to the ER by the time we arrive my sister was having great difficulty breathing and they took her back immediately. My point is not everyone who is in a hurry is just being an inpatient jerk, Sometimes there is true emergencies and at that point we were doing what anybody would do for their own family I hope you are proud of yourself for acting like an arrogant idiot because you not only kept us from passing, but you turned looked right at me as we tried to go by like it was your job to hold me back… thankfully we arrived just in the nick of time, but if it had been a longer ride things may have been different think twice about it before you believe you are the road police. And no I don’t need any lectures on driving her because I am a nurse of 30 years and at the point we left the house she was not having breathing issues we just we’re heading that way quickly but things changed.
Should have got the old goat’s License number and reported his old ass.
tklloop
06-23-2021, 06:17 AM
You just stated all the reasons why you should always call EMS. Let them determine if it’s an emergency. You possibly placed yourself, your sister, and other drivers at risk. Your intentions were correct but your decision making was flawed.
butlerism
06-23-2021, 06:23 AM
That was you.
I was honking and waving back at You!!
Must not have noticed with the privacy windows.
Freehiker
06-23-2021, 06:23 AM
To the man who felt it was his need to be the traffic police and block me while I was honking and waving my arms as he decided to bock the left hand lane this morning, I hope your proud of yourself! What started as a quick drive to get my sister who was helping me in the yard in our home in Monarch Grove a ride to ER at Brownwood. She developed hives on her and was itching, which has happened before. So we jumped in the car and headed that way, suddenly her airway was getting compromised, just before the water Lilly bridge area, so things were getting urgent, I knew I was only a little over a mile or so from the ER We decided to continue on versus calling 911 we came up on two cars on in each lane and I drove up behind the Lexus in the left and started frantically honking my horn and waving my arms to move, I honked several times to no avail not only did he not move forward he slowed down and held me so I could not get by. We followed him honking and waving frantically neither car would move just kept riding side-by-side as if to try to tell me to slow down like it was their job, Instead of wondering gee, why are they so frantic honking and waving!! I was finally able to get by them at the last traffic circle and rushed to the ER by the time we arrive my sister was having great difficulty breathing and they took her back immediately. My point is not everyone who is in a hurry is just being an inpatient jerk, Sometimes there is true emergencies and at that point we were doing what anybody would do for their own family I hope you are proud of yourself for acting like an arrogant idiot because you not only kept us from passing, but you turned looked right at me as we tried to go by like it was your job to hold me back… thankfully we arrived just in the nick of time, but if it had been a longer ride things may have been different think twice about it before you believe you are the road police. And no I don’t need any lectures on driving her because I am a nurse of 30 years and at the point we left the house she was not having breathing issues we just we’re heading that way quickly but things changed.
Paragraphs are your friend.
gwenhwalker@yahoo.com
06-23-2021, 06:25 AM
Use emergency blinkers and maybe not definitely the road police will move over
Nick B
06-23-2021, 06:33 AM
Use emergency blinkers and maybe not definitely the road police will move over
Look up law on flashers.
Get real
06-23-2021, 06:41 AM
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Get real
06-23-2021, 06:44 AM
NOT WRONG!!!!!!
Here is the entire statute:
316.081 Driving on right side of roadway; exceptions.—
(1) Upon all roadways of sufficient width, a vehicle shall be driven upon the right half of the roadway, except as follows:
(a) When overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction under the rules governing such movement;
(b) When an obstruction exists making it necessary to drive to the left of the center of the highway; provided any person so doing shall yield the right-of-way to all vehicles traveling in the proper direction upon the unobstructed portion of the highway within such distance as to constitute an immediate hazard;
(c) Upon a roadway divided into three marked lanes for traffic under the rules applicable thereon; or
(d) Upon a roadway designated and signposted for one-way traffic.
(2) Upon all roadways, any vehicle proceeding at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall be driven in the right-hand lane then available for traffic or as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway except when overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction or when preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway.
(3) On a road, street, or highway having two or more lanes allowing movement in the same direction, a driver may not continue to operate a motor vehicle in the furthermost left-hand lane if the driver knows or reasonably should know that he or she is being overtaken in that lane from the rear by a motor vehicle traveling at a higher rate of speed. This subsection does not apply to drivers operating a vehicle that is overtaking another vehicle proceeding in the same direction, or is preparing for a left turn at an intersection.
(4) Upon any roadway having four or more lanes for moving traffic and providing for two-way movement of traffic, no vehicle shall be driven to the left of the centerline of the roadway, except when authorized by official traffic control devices designating certain lanes to the left side of the center of the roadway for use by traffic not otherwise permitted to use such lanes, or except as permitted under paragraph (1)(b). However, this subsection shall not be construed as prohibiting the crossing of the centerline in making a left turn into or from an alley, private road, or driveway.
(5) A violation of this section is a noncriminal traffic infraction, punishable as a moving violation as provided in chapter 318.
So again, NOT WRONG!!!!
Note the phrase "road, street or highway"
No mention of "interstate" vs. "in town"
Thank you. I really hope some of these know it alls read that.
Billy1
06-23-2021, 06:48 AM
Road rage and guns, be careful and definitely don't try to run someone off the road.
Eg_cruz
06-23-2021, 06:57 AM
To the man who felt it was his need to be the traffic police and block me while I was honking and waving my arms as he decided to bock the left hand lane this morning, I hope your proud of yourself! What started as a quick drive to get my sister who was helping me in the yard in our home in Monarch Grove a ride to ER at Brownwood. She developed hives on her and was itching, which has happened before. So we jumped in the car and headed that way, suddenly her airway was getting compromised, just before the water Lilly bridge area, so things were getting urgent, I knew I was only a little over a mile or so from the ER We decided to continue on versus calling 911 we came up on two cars on in each lane and I drove up behind the Lexus in the left and started frantically honking my horn and waving my arms to move, I honked several times to no avail not only did he not move forward he slowed down and held me so I could not get by. We followed him honking and waving frantically neither car would move just kept riding side-by-side as if to try to tell me to slow down like it was their job, Instead of wondering gee, why are they so frantic honking and waving!! I was finally able to get by them at the last traffic circle and rushed to the ER by the time we arrive my sister was having great difficulty breathing and they took her back immediately. My point is not everyone who is in a hurry is just being an inpatient jerk, Sometimes there is true emergencies and at that point we were doing what anybody would do for their own family I hope you are proud of yourself for acting like an arrogant idiot because you not only kept us from passing, but you turned looked right at me as we tried to go by like it was your job to hold me back… thankfully we arrived just in the nick of time, but if it had been a longer ride things may have been different think twice about it before you believe you are the road police. And no I don’t need any lectures on driving her because I am a nurse of 30 years and at the point we left the house she was not having breathing issues we just we’re heading that way quickly but things changed.
Glad your sister is good
Every since the movie where the guy driving down a dirt road and did the same thing would let the people behind him pass and purposely block them from passing, they tried everything like you to pass but couldn’t….in the movie the injured person passed away. I told my self then always let someone who frantically are aggressively trying to pass me let them pass because you never know.
Again glad your sister is doing good
Eg_cruz
06-23-2021, 07:00 AM
Actually, Florida law is quite clear on this subject. If you are in the left lane and someone wants to pass, you are REQUIRED, BY LAW, to move over. Even if you are going over the speed limit and someone wants to pass, you ARE STILL REQUIRED to move over. YOU are not the police!. YOU do not get to enforce traffic laws! YOU do not get to dictate my speed! It reminds me of someone who posted a few years ago that he always drives in the left lane of 466 at 30 mph (in the 45 zone) because HE feels that is fast enough!
All I can say is that if my wife was having the kind of medical emergency described by the OP, I WOULD run you right off the road and into a ditch if you didn't let me pass, and I wouldn't even look back.
Do you ever post without caps, large font or bold?
It just seem you do that with every post you make
JMintzer
06-23-2021, 07:09 AM
Do you ever post without caps, large font or bond?
It just seem you do that with every post you make
His name is Bond... Large font Bond...
https://d1yjjnpx0p53s8.cloudfront.net/styles/logo-thumbnail/s3/022020/james_bond.png?SV0rrbEgSHnoZ7X7I8J.AEqPmabImzHd&itok=bvMLuOTb
Oh, and I think you have him mixed up with another serial "random" capitalizer...
Boomer
06-23-2021, 07:11 AM
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Eg_cruz
06-23-2021, 07:13 AM
His name is Bond... Large font Bond...
https://d1yjjnpx0p53s8.cloudfront.net/styles/logo-thumbnail/s3/022020/james_bond.png?SV0rrbEgSHnoZ7X7I8J.AEqPmabImzHd&itok=bvMLuOTb
Oh, and I think you have him mixed up with another serial "random" capitalizer...
Fixed thanks
golfing eagles
06-23-2021, 07:13 AM
Do you ever post without caps, large font or bond?
It just seem you do that with every post you make
Actually yes. And to that other poster and his "miniscule" whatever, I also post sometimes without ":1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:"
However, you will notice a few things here on TOTV:
1) A lot of people don't even bother to read previous posts. Hence, even on this thread, we had someone posting the same Florida statute I quoted about a dozen posts earlier.
2) A lot of people are just plain deaf when it comes to factual, logical posts, and therefore the capitals. I do hate to confuse these people and their opinions with the facts, but so be it.
3) The idiot in the Lexus was wrong by any standard you can name---not only was he morally wrong by impeding another vehicle in an emergency situation, which although he didn't know, was covered by being legally wrong according to the statute.
4) The OP is a nurse and EMT with 30 years experience, yet a slew of non-professionals were quick to criticize her decision to drive 7 minutes rather than to create a 1/2 hr + ambulance encounter when the problem did not meet emergency criteria. Also, she may or may not know, but i doubt the rest of the critics do, that except in full blown anaphylaxis, which would have been immediately evident, urticaria (hives) rarely progresses to respiratory difficulty.
5) Maybe I like CAPITALS and :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
Girlcopper
06-23-2021, 07:45 AM
The OP needed to learn how to perform a pick manuever:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
Its called PIT maneuver. The OP is complaining about someones reaction to his aggressiveness on the road. No one knows why youre honking and yelling and assumed you are just one of the everyday road idiots. You cant fault them for that and Im sure if you didnt start your honking and just drove, you could have gotten past them with no problem. And not taking away from the allergic reaction but anyone who has a serious life threatening reaction, as you claim, should be prepared with an emergemcy medication.
Bhighley
06-23-2021, 07:51 AM
You sound like the arrogant driver. A one mile drive at 30mph takes two minutes, at 15mph it’s four.
A nurse of 30 years with a sister having a history of hives should have had and administered Benadryl or equivalent at the first sign of her recurring hives breakout....
golfing eagles
06-23-2021, 07:54 AM
Its called PIT maneuver. The OP is complaining about someones reaction to his aggressiveness on the road. No one knows why youre honking and yelling and assumed you are just one of the everyday road idiots. You cant fault them for that and Im sure if you didnt start your honking and just drove, you could have gotten past them with no problem. And not taking away from the allergic reaction but anyone who has a serious life threatening reaction, as you claim, should be prepared with an emergemcy medication.
Really??? Just proves my point in the post immediately preceding this one. Thank you for being the FOURTH person to point out it is a PIT, not pick maneuver. My bad.
Second, EVEN IF the Lexus driver ASSumed the OP was just another "road idiot", he STILL HAS THE LEGAL OBLIGATION to move over (also as posted above)
Third, the "serious life threatening emergency" did not develop until the OP was en route and there was no prior history.
Reading-------it's not just for breakfast anymore:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
golfing eagles
06-23-2021, 07:59 AM
You sound like the arrogant driver. A one mile drive at 30mph takes two minutes, at 15mph it’s four.
A nurse of 30 years with a sister having a history of hives should have had and administered Benadryl or equivalent at the first sign of her recurring hives breakout....
Wow!
Just proves my point above once again.
Try reading the OP's post #43 and you would have known she DID administer Benadryl.
Try reading ANY of the multiple posts citing Florida traffic statutes and you would have known that the Lexus driver had a legal obligation to move over
And btw, 2 minutes in respiratory distress could mean the difference between full recovery and brain damage
Rose Ann Vinci Igoe
06-23-2021, 08:03 AM
To the man who felt it was his need to be the traffic police and block me while I was honking and waving my arms as he decided to bock the left hand lane this morning, I hope your proud of yourself! What started as a quick drive to get my sister who was helping me in the yard in our home in Monarch Grove a ride to ER at Brownwood. She developed hives on her and was itching, which has happened before. So we jumped in the car and headed that way, suddenly her airway was getting compromised, just before the water Lilly bridge area, so things were getting urgent, I knew I was only a little over a mile or so from the ER We decided to continue on versus calling 911 we came up on two cars on in each lane and I drove up behind the Lexus in the left and started frantically honking my horn and waving my arms to move, I honked several times to no avail not only did he not move forward he slowed down and held me so I could not get by. We followed him honking and waving frantically neither car would move just kept riding side-by-side as if to try to tell me to slow down like it was their job, Instead of wondering gee, why are they so frantic honking and waving!! I was finally able to get by them at the last traffic circle and rushed to the ER by the time we arrive my sister was having great difficulty breathing and they took her back immediately. My point is not everyone who is in a hurry is just being an inpatient jerk, Sometimes there is true emergencies and at that point we were doing what anybody would do for their own family I hope you are proud of yourself for acting like an arrogant idiot because you not only kept us from passing, but you turned looked right at me as we tried to go by like it was your job to hold me back… thankfully we arrived just in the nick of time, but if it had been a longer ride things may have been different think twice about it before you believe you are the road police. And no I don’t need any lectures on driving her because I am a nurse of 30 years and at the point we left the house she was not having breathing issues we just we’re heading that way quickly but things changed.
Unfortunately, so many things can get misunderstood, esp on the roadways. Seeing a woman, beeping and waving her arms, or anyone for that matter... would throw anyone off. More to road rage.... I'm not agreeing or disagreeing... just trying to show you both sides. Now, thank God, you and your sister arrived in time to the ER. However, anyone who has a similar situation, it would be good to put your Emergency Flashers On... this would signal anyone that you are in trouble and they would automatically pull to the side for you... Waving arms, beeping... they THEN would know your in need of help.. Perhaps, they would call emergency or police to help you out too. Its an unfortunate situation, and so sorry you had to go through that... but as I said, the emergency flashers located on your steering wheel, would of made a difference for all. I think too, If a police car was in the area, and saw that... they would of automatically given you a police escort. Lesson learned for everyone...
graciegirl
06-23-2021, 08:05 AM
This has to be one of the most whacked out responses I’ve seen. I don’t even know where to start. Have the ambulance try and intercept you enroute? Seriously?
Whacked out? Seriously? You do not have a member of the family who is extremely allergic to something. It is that kind of fear. Stop acting like a mean person for no reason.
golfing eagles
06-23-2021, 08:07 AM
Unfortunately, so many things can get misunderstood, esp on the roadways. Seeing a woman, beeping and waving her arms, or anyone for that matter... would throw anyone off. More to road rage.... I'm not agreeing or disagreeing... just trying to show you both sides. Now, thank God, you and your sister arrived in time to the ER. However, anyone who has a similar situation, it would be good to put your Emergency Flashers On... this would signal anyone that you are in trouble and they would automatically pull to the side for you... Waving arms, beeping... they THEN would know your in need of help.. Perhaps, they would call emergency or police to help you out too. Its an unfortunate situation, and so sorry you had to go through that... but as I said, the emergency flashers located on your steering wheel, would of made a difference for all. I think too, If a police car was in the area, and saw that... they would of automatically given you a police escort. Lesson learned for everyone...
That's all OK, BUT.....the Lexus driver STILL had a legal obligation to move over. It doesn't matter what he thought----road rage, "road idiot", hysterical woman, medical emergency or brakes not working----THE LAW states he needs to move over
Spalumbos62
06-23-2021, 08:11 AM
Realized that some people continue to condone arrogance and not understand. Oh and I’m not repeating myself again…I didn’t ask for medical advice. Must be a man thing, difficultly reading and acceptance that it was a male driver…
For sure. Lol!!!
Notice how they can only address if it's "pick" or "pit". Also, they have to post a book on "the rules"
Glad your sister is ok.
What surprises me is the actual fact they wouldn't move, especially nowaday, meaning with all the current violence and shotings every where in the US, if someone was tailgating me so anxiously, I would move right over..in fear.
Again, happy she's better.
JMintzer
06-23-2021, 08:18 AM
Actually yes. And to that other poster and his "miniscule" whatever, I also post sometimes without ":1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:"
However, you will notice a few things here on TOTV:
1) A lot of people don't even bother to read previous posts. Hence, even on this thread, we had someone posting the same Florida statute I quoted about a dozen posts earlier.
2) A lot of people are just plain deaf when it comes to factual, logical posts, and therefore the capitals. I do hate to confuse these people and their opinions with the facts, but so be it.
3) The idiot in the Lexus was wrong by any standard you can name---not only was he morally wrong by impeding another vehicle in an emergency situation, which although he didn't know, was covered by being legally wrong according to the statute.
4) The OP is a nurse and EMT with 30 years experience, yet a slew of non-professionals were quick to criticize her decision to drive 7 minutes rather than to create a 1/2 hr + ambulance encounter when the problem did not meet emergency criteria. Also, she may or may not know, but i doubt the rest of the critics do, that except in full blown anaphylaxis, which would have been immediately evident, urticaria (hives) rarely progresses to respiratory difficulty.
5) Maybe I like CAPITALS and :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
You forgot to capitalize the "i" in "i doubt" in point 4... ;)
C'mon man! You know... The Thing!
JMintzer
06-23-2021, 08:21 AM
Wow!
Just proves my point above once again.
Try reading the OP's post #43 and you would have known she DID administer Benadryl.
Try reading ANY of the multiple posts citing Florida traffic statutes and you would have known that the Lexus driver had a legal obligation to move over
And btw, 2 minutes in respiratory distress could mean the difference between full recovery and brain damage
It appears that some of the posters waited that extra 2 minutes... :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
retiredguy123
06-23-2021, 08:28 AM
That's all OK, BUT.....the Lexus driver STILL had a legal obligation to move over. It doesn't matter what he thought----road rage, "road idiot", hysterical woman, medical emergency or brakes not working----THE LAW states he needs to move over
So, I can just drive in the left lane honking my horn and waving my arms and everyone will get out of my way.
Thanks. That will save me a lot of time.
golfing eagles
06-23-2021, 08:34 AM
So, I can just drive in the left lane honking my horn and waving my arms and everyone will get out of my way.
Thanks. That will save me a lot of time.
According to the law, they are supposed to, but some won't. Those are the self appointed speed police.
Villagesgal
06-23-2021, 09:40 AM
Next time call 911 immediately.
You learned a valuable lesson.
yanksansky
06-23-2021, 09:40 AM
You might want to try easier routes that avoid roundabouts. 301, 466, 472, etc.
Faster to take 438 to 44. I timed it. The curves on Meggison slow you down
graciegirl
06-23-2021, 10:02 AM
I’m very well aware of that. The OP was driving from Monarch Grove to Brownwood, on Meggison. In the time it took to place the call, have the dispatcher ask all the questions following their protocol, dispatch an ambulance, etc, it’s a safe bet the OP would’ve long since arrived at the ER.
We’re not talking about being in a rural area where an ER is 45 minutes away.
You know. There is no reason to have attitude unless you try to have a GOOD attitude. People were trying to calm this person down and interject some of their thoughts. They meant well and kindly. We can't know what someone else is thinking when they are honking. People didn't honk much in the area where I lived for forty years UNLESS it is an emergency. Here I find people honk in four seconds when the light changes.
BobnBev
06-23-2021, 10:12 AM
The OP needed to learn how to perform a pick manuever:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
It's called a "PIT" manuever.
Villagevip
06-23-2021, 10:25 AM
There is a friendly way to honk your horn in an emergency...Light taping on the horn, flashing your headlights, hazard lights on, when in stationary, slow traffic, very short multiple "taps" in a row... Most drivers in traffic, will get the hint, and others seeing will pull over to let you pass....Also, if you see a police car, get his, her attention for a lighted up escort to the E.R..
photo1902
06-23-2021, 10:59 AM
Faster to take 438 to 44. I timed it. The curves on Meggison slow you down
438 is in Winter Garden. Seems a long way to go to get to Brownwood.
photo1902
06-23-2021, 11:04 AM
You know. There is no reason to have attitude unless you try to have a GOOD attitude. People were trying to calm this person down and interject some of their thoughts. They meant well and kindly. We can't know what someone else is thinking when they are honking. People didn't honk much in the area where I lived for forty years UNLESS it is an emergency. Here I find people honk in four seconds when the light changes.
My comment on your post was a statement, not a question.
From what I've seen, most of the people responding to the OP showed nothing but criticism...would've, should've, could've. And if you think your post calmed this person down, then we have a big difference of opinion in calming techniques :ohdear:
Lulu52
06-23-2021, 11:27 AM
Drivers here are the worst drivers ever. I would have bumped him so he'd have to get over and sped off, Would have gladly taken the ticket
Malsua
06-23-2021, 12:23 PM
If someone was blocking the road and someone was in my passenger seat in dire need of a hospital, I doubt I would pit. I would ease up to their bumper and stand on the gas. Depending on which vehicle I own that I was in, either they'd stop or I'd smoke their brakes as we approached 100mph.
Either way they'd eventually pull off and I'd keep going.
kendi
06-23-2021, 12:34 PM
The best thing to do when someone is acting crazy (as you were) is to ignore them. There was a better way to handle the situation.
Joe V.
06-23-2021, 12:40 PM
Drivers here are the worst drivers ever. I would have bumped him so he'd have to get over and sped off, Would have gladly taken the ticket
Careful there- you just described a hit and run and and arrest would come of that, not a ticket. But it is all a part of what you are willing to pay. What if you wrecked doing this? You probably would have never made it to the hospital with your patient. Same goes with a cop or ambulance wrecking on the way to an emergency. Can't help if you don't get there. I frankly can not say what I would do until I was pressed with the same problem. I would like to think my life long training and experience would kick in and decide on options presented in a rapid mental sitrep.
kendi
06-23-2021, 12:46 PM
Its over, time to chill out. And BTW, the best thing to do in an emergency is to stay calm. Panic only stresses the patient more and needlessly wastes your energy. Obviously your panic didn't get you there any sooner.
Joe V.
06-23-2021, 12:52 PM
Its over, time to chill out. And BTW, the best thing to do in an emergency is to stay calm. Panic only stresses the patient more and needlessly wastes your energy. Obviously your panic didn't get you there any sooner.
The OP claims 30 years experience as a nurse. Guess she missed the class on keeping calm in a emergency to try helping the distressed person stay as calm as possible.
kathy1516
06-23-2021, 01:05 PM
Read the posts to realize reality. These people are the same ones on the road.
Truth, clearly a better choice would have been to call for help. EMT they would have oxygen etc. A nurse, so what, can you drive and aid your sister at the same time? Among other things the hospitals give priority to people who arrive by ambulance.
Hives, itching? A guess your sister is allergic to something, a plant, an insect or? "It has happened before." Should find out why and what to do about it.
The good news, thankfully it ended well-THIS TIME.
Did you not read her post?? It did not become emergent until she was in the car driving on the way to ER. The stupidest thing would be to stop and call EMT as her sister would probably be dead by the time they arrived!!! She used more restraint than I would have as my car would have hit the bumper until that idiot moved over! Maybe the lemming would get the message then. Death vs car damage and ticket? Car damage and ticket anytime in an emergency!
shortstack
06-23-2021, 01:38 PM
Sounds like those involved were being jerks. For you put your emergency flashers on?
golfing eagles
06-23-2021, 01:50 PM
It's called a "PIT" manuever.
Thank you, I wrote it wrong. May I also assume that you didn't read a single post from the OTHER FOUR people who posted exactly the same thing??????
JMintzer
06-23-2021, 01:56 PM
Thank you, I wrote it wrong. May I also assume that you didn't read a single post from the OTHER FOUR people who posted exactly the same thing??????
Other 5 people...
Yes, I actually went back and counted... :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
golfing eagles
06-23-2021, 01:57 PM
Other 5 people...
Yes, I actually went back and counted... :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
Just makes it that much worse
Sherry8bal
06-23-2021, 01:58 PM
Well don't you know that anyone who drives a Lexus or Lincoln or Cadillac in The Villages already thinks he/she is above everyone else here and is entitled to do whatever the hell they like.
Byte1
06-23-2021, 02:41 PM
I thought about your post, after reading it and agree with you. If someone came upon me from the rear and started honking and waving, I would certainly think there was something wrong. Who wouldn't? The guy had to be an idiot if he thought you were just harassing him. If nothing else, he should have or might have thought there was something wrong with his car, such as it being on fire or a flat tire, or something dragging the road and pull over to check. Maybe I looked at the incident differently than others. I drove to Ocala yesterday via Rt75 and stayed in the right lane. My wife commented that in the past I was ALWAYS racing in the left lane and found it strange that I was driving in the right lane. I told her that I was not in a hurry and the left lane was easily doing the speed limit if not over. She's right, I used to be in a hurry all the time. Retirement makes some folks more patient. But, I digress.
I am glad you got her to the ER in time. I also hope that by venting on here, you also healed a bit. That person has absolutely NO excuse for holding you up. None! You didn't mention whether or not you had your emergency flashers on or whether or not you flashed you hi and low beams. Usually, when I see someone with their emergency flashers on, I automatically figure they have an emergency.
Hope this is an isolated incident and it does not happen to you again. You can treat ignorance, but you just can't fix stupid. Apparently, you came across one of the stupid ones.
Eg_cruz
06-23-2021, 02:42 PM
Well don't you know that anyone who drives a Lexus or Lincoln or Cadillac in The Villages already thinks he/she is above everyone else here and is entitled to do whatever the hell they like.
Excuse me…..bad form
Jelly Much
spd2918
06-23-2021, 04:32 PM
Intentionally hitting another car because they are not going fast enough for you is a good way to get shot.
kcrazorbackfan
06-23-2021, 09:58 PM
Haven’t read all the post's (SIAP), but did anyone see the road rage movie “Unhinged” with Russell Crowe? Makes you think twice about ****ing someone off.
Irishheart628
06-23-2021, 11:39 PM
Try the SOS signal on your horn. Hopefully he’d recognize that as an emergency.
Dr Winston O Boogie jr
06-24-2021, 08:33 AM
I understand your frustration. But, the driver had no way of knowing where your were going and why. And, honking and waving at a driver is a surefire way to get a driver to slow down, not change lanes, and not let you in. It is pretty typical behavior on the road today.
It doesn't matter where she was going or why. Florida law states that if you are in the left hand lane and a person in a car behind you wants to go faster than you, you MUST move over and allow that car to pass.
This is one of my biggest pet peeves and was thrilled to see this law passed a few years ago. Unfortunately, it's almost never enforced.
People that drive slowly in the left hand lane may never get into an accident, but they are likely to cause an accident.
Cobullymom
06-24-2021, 08:53 AM
Paragraphs are your friend.
Always that one arrogant _ diot
Cobullymom
06-24-2021, 08:57 AM
You just stated all the reasons why you should always call EMS. Let them determine if it’s an emergency. You possibly placed yourself, your sister, and other drivers at risk. Your intentions were correct but your decision making was flawed.
That’s your opinion, and that’s all it is…a keyboard genius giving an opinion…nothing more
Cobullymom
06-24-2021, 08:59 AM
Actually yes. And to that other poster and his "miniscule" whatever, I also post sometimes without ":1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:"
However, you will notice a few things here on TOTV:
1) A lot of people don't even bother to read previous posts. Hence, even on this thread, we had someone posting the same Florida statute I quoted about a dozen posts earlier.
2) A lot of people are just plain deaf when it comes to factual, logical posts, and therefore the capitals. I do hate to confuse these people and their opinions with the facts, but so be it.
3) The idiot in the Lexus was wrong by any standard you can name---not only was he morally wrong by impeding another vehicle in an emergency situation, which although he didn't know, was covered by being legally wrong according to the statute.
4) The OP is a nurse and EMT with 30 years experience, yet a slew of non-professionals were quick to criticize her decision to drive 7 minutes rather than to create a 1/2 hr + ambulance encounter when the problem did not meet emergency criteria. Also, she may or may not know, but i doubt the rest of the critics do, that except in full blown anaphylaxis, which would have been immediately evident, urticaria (hives) rarely progresses to respiratory difficulty.
5) Maybe I like CAPITALS and :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
Thank you…👏👏👏
roob1
06-24-2021, 09:01 AM
Did you not expect to get opinions when you initially posted your frustrations?
That’s your opinion, and that’s all it is…a keyboard genius giving an opinion…nothing more
Cobullymom
06-24-2021, 09:03 AM
The best thing to do when someone is acting crazy (as you were) is to ignore them. There was a better way to handle the situation.
Not a response that I have enough time for…nor dignified enough…you better hope it’s never you needing help..
Cobullymom
06-24-2021, 09:05 AM
Its over, time to chill out. And BTW, the best thing to do in an emergency is to stay calm. Panic only stresses the patient more and needlessly wastes your energy. Obviously your panic didn't get you there any sooner.
Another pathetic response….
asianthree
06-24-2021, 09:26 AM
OP the response from some may not be what you would like. This is an open forum which there are many medical professionals, many with experience from drivers that have been less than favorable. Either way, no one except for the passengers in your vehicle knew why your method of driving was chosen. Sometimes venting on TOTVs is a crap shoot, some agreement and not so much
Road-Runner
06-24-2021, 10:01 AM
Agree with some previously shared opinions about trying to physically drive someone off the road who's in your way. You have NO idea where that could lead including the deaths of not only the people in the two cars in question, but also other innocent travelers who just happened to be on that same section of road at the wrong time. I personally don't care what the 'law is' about driving with flashers on, that would be the first thing I did if I found myself in the same situation as the OP. You want the person to think you're having an issue and need around, not that your some kind of unhinged driver. Driving in an Atlanta suburb many years ago I had a woman go off on me because I dared to come to a stop at a 4-way stop sign and then start to go through the intersection getting in her way of blowing through the stop. She went absolutely nuts yelling racial slurs, the whole bit. People are crazy, have been for some time in some areas, whatever you do you don't want to come off as one of them.
Oh, and it's called the PIT maneuver, not Pick... (Kidding!)
Ptmckiou
06-24-2021, 10:03 AM
Driving with your emergency flashers on shows others you are in a “hazard/dire” situation.
roob1
06-24-2021, 10:26 AM
Illegal.
Florida might allow drivers to use flashers in storms - South Florida Sun-Sentinel (https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/transportation/fl-ne-emergency-flashers-law-change-20210528-2z7wmxpyeffkjnu2hgj75isp7u-story.html)
Driving with your emergency flashers on shows others you are in a “hazard/dire” situation.
golfing eagles
06-24-2021, 12:59 PM
Agree with some previously shared opinions about trying to physically drive someone off the road who's in your way. You have NO idea where that could lead including the deaths of not only the people in the two cars in question, but also other innocent travelers who just happened to be on that same section of road at the wrong time. I personally don't care what the 'law is' about driving with flashers on, that would be the first thing I did if I found myself in the same situation as the OP. You want the person to think you're having an issue and need around, not that your some kind of unhinged driver. Driving in an Atlanta suburb many years ago I had a woman go off on me because I dared to come to a stop at a 4-way stop sign and then start to go through the intersection getting in her way of blowing through the stop. She went absolutely nuts yelling racial slurs, the whole bit. People are crazy, have been for some time in some areas, whatever you do you don't want to come off as one of them.
Oh, and it's called the PIT maneuver, not Pick... (Kidding!)
Again, it STILL doesn't matter. Even if YOU think the person is an "unhinged driver", you are STILL REQUIRED to move over. Pretty simple, huh?--No thinking, no judgement call, just follow the law and MOVE OVER. (Actually, if you really think the driver is crazy, all the more reason to get out of his way)
Road-Runner
06-24-2021, 01:18 PM
Again, it STILL doesn't matter. Even if YOU think the person is an "unhinged driver", you are STILL REQUIRED to move over. Pretty simple, huh?--No thinking, no judgement call, just follow the law and MOVE OVER. (Actually, if you really think the driver is crazy, all the more reason to get out of his way)
My primary point was that several (too many) here believe they're justified in spinning out or otherwise pushing another driver out of the way if the circumstance calls for it (at least in their minds). If that's what you're promoting when pointing out my post is somehow incorrect, than you're not who I thought you were in some of your other posts. And sure, I've read the entire thread unlike some so have seen what Florida law requires for people being overtaken, I'll remember that while waiting to get around other drivers parked in the left lane on virtually every drive I'll take in the future...
golfing eagles
06-24-2021, 01:21 PM
My primary point was that several (too many) here believe they're justified in spinning out or otherwise pushing another driver out of the way if the circumstance calls for it (at least in their minds). If that's what you're promoting when pointing out my post is somehow incorrect, than you're not who I thought you were in some of your other posts. And sure, I've read the entire thread unlike some so have seen what Florida law requires for people being overtaken, I'll remember that while waiting to get around other drivers parked in the left lane on virtually every drive I'll take in the future...
I think, like me, most of those that posted they would hit, or PIT, or run another car off the road were being disingenuous. At least I hope so.
Malsua
06-24-2021, 01:42 PM
I think, like me, most of those that posted they would hit, or PIT, or run another car off the road were being disingenuous. At least I hope so.
Eh. I did enough roundy round as a young man and i'm pretty good at bumping other cars to get them to move without driving them into the ditch. If someone goes into full anaphylaxis or sudden cardiac arrest and I don't have an AED handy...get a new bumper cover and get the eff out of my way.
JMintzer
06-24-2021, 06:13 PM
Another pathetic response….
Not a response that I have enough time for…nor dignified enough…you better hope it’s never you needing help..
That’s your opinion, and that’s all it is…a keyboard genius giving an opinion…nothing more
Always that one arrogant _ diot
Are you always this charming?
Joe V.
06-24-2021, 08:05 PM
Are you always this charming?
Her moniker: cobullymom
Says something.
Topspinmo
06-24-2021, 09:24 PM
To the man who felt it was his need to be the traffic police and block me while I was honking and waving my arms as he decided to bock the left hand lane this morning, I hope your proud of yourself! What started as a quick drive to get my sister who was helping me in the yard in our home in Monarch Grove a ride to ER at Brownwood. She developed hives on her and was itching, which has happened before. So we jumped in the car and headed that way, suddenly her airway was getting compromised, just before the water Lilly bridge area, so things were getting urgent, I knew I was only a little over a mile or so from the ER We decided to continue on versus calling 911 we came up on two cars on in each lane and I drove up behind the Lexus in the left and started frantically honking my horn and waving my arms to move, I honked several times to no avail not only did he not move forward he slowed down and held me so I could not get by. We followed him honking and waving frantically neither car would move just kept riding side-by-side as if to try to tell me to slow down like it was their job, Instead of wondering gee, why are they so frantic honking and waving!! I was finally able to get by them at the last traffic circle and rushed to the ER by the time we arrive my sister was having great difficulty breathing and they took her back immediately. My point is not everyone who is in a hurry is just being an inpatient jerk, Sometimes there is true emergencies and at that point we were doing what anybody would do for their own family I hope you are proud of yourself for acting like an arrogant idiot because you not only kept us from passing, but you turned looked right at me as we tried to go by like it was your job to hold me back… thankfully we arrived just in the nick of time, but if it had been a longer ride things may have been different think twice about it before you believe you are the road police. And no I don’t need any lectures on driving her because I am a nurse of 30 years and at the point we left the house she was not having breathing issues we just we’re heading that way quickly but things changed.
Did you have you’re emergency flashers on? Might of worked better than arm waving and honking? And it might not?
Topspinmo
06-24-2021, 09:31 PM
Drivers here are the worst drivers ever. I would have bumped him so he'd have to get over and sped off, Would have gladly taken the ticket
And where do you think these drivers came from?
Seasonal
06-24-2021, 11:50 PM
I dont know of any place that so many people drive slow in the left lane and refuse to move over. Just another trait of the privileged and inconsiderate.
Wisconsin is the home of most left lane Larry's. No one is allowed to travel faster than these jerks. Mostly young people that were never taught to drive, in my experience.
Topspinmo
06-25-2021, 07:47 AM
Wisconsin is the home of most left lane Larry's. No one is allowed to travel faster than these jerks. Mostly young people that were never taught to drive, in my experience.
Well…..they must of expanded to most state’s cause every state I’ve been in they are parked in left lane and they are left lane joe’s. :icon_wink:
Cobullymom
06-28-2021, 06:03 AM
Are you always this charming?
Only to those who are “charming” to me…Any other questions? How about something logical…
graciegirl
06-28-2021, 07:31 AM
Only to those who are “charming” to me…Any other questions? How about something logical…
If this had happened to any one of us, we each would have a different way of looking at it. Things seem far worse when we are in an anguishing situation to begin with. Some people always blame other people and some people would have said, I wish I had just called 911.
I am hoping that your sister is fine now, and breathing well and that she has an epi-pen to carry with her. What a scary and awful thing to face. I know you are both so relieved it turned out well.
wisbad1
06-28-2021, 08:48 AM
NOT WRONG!!!!!!
Here is the entire statute:
316.081 Driving on right side of roadway; exceptions.—
(1) Upon all roadways of sufficient width, a vehicle shall be driven upon the right half of the roadway, except as follows:
(a) When overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction under the rules governing such movement;
(b) When an obstruction exists making it necessary to drive to the left of the center of the highway; provided any person so doing shall yield the right-of-way to all vehicles traveling in the proper direction upon the unobstructed portion of the highway within such distance as to constitute an immediate hazard;
(c) Upon a roadway divided into three marked lanes for traffic under the rules applicable thereon; or
(d) Upon a roadway designated and signposted for one-way traffic.
(2) Upon all roadways, any vehicle proceeding at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall be driven in the right-hand lane then available for traffic or as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway except when overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction or when preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway.
(3) On a road, street, or highway having two or more lanes allowing movement in the same direction, a driver may not continue to operate a motor vehicle in the furthermost left-hand lane if the driver knows or reasonably should know that he or she is being overtaken in that lane from the rear by a motor vehicle traveling at a higher rate of speed. This subsection does not apply to drivers operating a vehicle that is overtaking another vehicle proceeding in the same direction, or is preparing for a left turn at an intersection.
(4) Upon any roadway having four or more lanes for moving traffic and providing for two-way movement of traffic, no vehicle shall be driven to the left of the centerline of the roadway, except when authorized by official traffic control devices designating certain lanes to the left side of the center of the roadway for use by traffic not otherwise permitted to use such lanes, or except as permitted under paragraph (1)(b). However, this subsection shall not be construed as prohibiting the crossing of the centerline in making a left turn into or from an alley, private road, or driveway.
(5) A violation of this section is a noncriminal traffic infraction, punishable as a moving violation as provided in chapter 318.
So again, NOT WRONG!!!!
Note the phrase "road, street or highway"
No mention of "interstate" vs. "in town"
Who cares?
golfing eagles
06-28-2021, 09:11 AM
Who cares?
Who cares????? You HAVE to be kidding, right?
The OP cares, since some bozo was blocking her ability to get her sister to urgent care in violation of the above LAW cited that REQUIRES him to move over. DOH!
I care, along with millions of others, when some other moron drives at 55 in the left lane of an interstate, inevitably finding another moron in the right lane to ride side by side with. Fortunately, you can generally find a way to blow by these idiots, but if you couldn't, a 700 mile drive goes from 10 hours to 12 3/4 hours when you go from 70 to 55 mph. And apparently the LAW cares as well, since it does require these idiots to MOVE OVER. The person in the left lane's actions are indefensible.
Dr Winston O Boogie jr
06-28-2021, 09:33 AM
Who cares?
We should all care because although these people may not get in an accident, they will often cause accidents because of people changing lanes trying to go around them. That is exactly why that law was passed.
Driving over the speed limit and staying in one is unlikely to cause an accident. Weaving in and out of traffic trying get around someone that is driving slower than you in the left hand lane is very likely to cause an accident. This is especially true when there are multiple people trying to go around a left hand slow poke.
I've seen it way too many times. A person in the left hand lane with ten or more cars behind him wanting to pass and just waiting for an opportunity to move into the right hand lane and go around. As people get more and more frustrated, they are more likely to take chances and try to squeeze into a spot that might be dangerous.
Yes, the people squeezing into the spot are to blame, but the person in the left hand lane breaking the law by holding up traffic is the root cause of the problem.
We should all care.
And on another note, I'm sick of hearing that it's only people in expensive cars that do this. I drive a Lexus and always move over when someone comes up behind me. Two days ago I was driving down the turnpike in the left hand lane and came up behind a small Chevy who was going under the speed limit. When I was finally able to pass, I saw that the woman driving the Chevy was on the phone.
And then to top is off, as soon as I passed her on the right, she moved over behind me. Some people have now awareness of what's going on around them when they're driving a car.
People at all financial levels do it. It's not just people driving a Lexus.
photo1902
06-28-2021, 10:02 AM
Who cares?
The answer is easy. The people who care are the drivers who are speeding.
This tired old topic has been bright up on the site many times over the years. And what I find funny is the irony that people who speed (breaking the law) complain about people who don’t move into the right lane (also breaking the law in certain circumstances).
My law is better than your law! :a040:
golfing eagles
06-28-2021, 10:10 AM
The answer is easy. The people who care are the drivers who are speeding.
This tired old topic has been bright up on the site many times over the years. And what I find funny is the irony that people who speed (breaking the law) complain about people who don’t move into the right lane (also breaking the law in certain circumstances).
My law is better than your law! :a040:
Wrong, wrong and MORE WRONG!!!
If I'm on an interstate with 2 lanes in each direction, and I want to drive at 69.9 mph, am I speeding if I want to pass a bozo doing 55 in the left lane???? Am I????
Your premise is way off by assuming only "speeders" would be unhappy with the idiot in the left lane going 55.
Furthermore, if someone wants to go 80, the person in the left lane going slower IS STILL REQUIRED by law to move over. HE does not get to play police. HE does not get to dictate speed to others. HE is not the ruler of the roadway. HE IS REQUIRED TO MOVE OVER, PERIOD!!!!
I fail to understand why it is so hard for some people to grasp this concept. If faster traffic wants to pass you, you are required by law to move over. No debate, no ifs and or buts---just move over. If you don't like getting passed, then drive faster. If you want to be a law enforcement officer---go to the police academy. But under NO CIRCUMSTANCES do you get to dictate to others.
Funkman
06-28-2021, 12:13 PM
Wrong, wrong and MORE WRONG!!!
If I'm on an interstate with 2 lanes in each direction, and I want to drive at 69.9 mph, am I speeding if I want to pass a bozo doing 55 in the left lane???? Am I????
Your premise is way off by assuming only "speeders" would be unhappy with the idiot in the left lane going 55.
Furthermore, if someone wants to go 80, the person in the left lane going slower IS STILL REQUIRED by law to move over. HE does not get to play police. HE does not get to dictate speed to others. HE is not the ruler of the roadway. HE IS REQUIRED TO MOVE OVER, PERIOD!!!!
I fail to understand why it is so hard for some people to grasp this concept. If faster traffic wants to pass you, you are required by law to move over. No debate, no ifs and or buts---just move over. If you don't like getting passed, then drive faster. If you want to be a law enforcement officer---go to the police academy. But under NO CIRCUMSTANCES do you get to dictate to others.
By the same token you don't get to dictate to others what law they must follow and what law others are allowed to break.
Just as one is required to move to the left, one is also required to not exceed the speed limit.
That said, I'm usually the guy riding the bumper of slow moving vehicles while cursing at them
golfing eagles
06-28-2021, 12:24 PM
By the same token you don't get to dictate to others what law they must follow and what law others are allowed to break.
Just as one is required to move to the left, one is also required to not exceed the speed limit.
That said, I'm usually the guy riding the bumper of slow moving vehicles while cursing at them
Who said anything about picking and choosing how to drive? I don't have to, the LAW has already done that. My points were:
1) The person in the left lane who is holding up a faster vehicle is REQUIRED BY LAW to move over
2) That someone LEGALLY driving 70 mph might be just as ticked off by a bozo going 55 in the left lane as someone going 80.
I can't think of any LAW that someone is ALLOWED to break
BTW, was that you riding my bumper and cursing at me on I75 the other day?:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
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