Exec Course Tee Time

[Scbang]

So, when snowbirds left ( if they ever did ) I thought it'll be easier to book a tee time for 2 of us. In fact, it was easier for a little while. Then what happened? Did snowbirds come back? I can not make any morning tee time anymore till 2-3 pm. But then when we make it out there, it is not that busy. I see 2 some 3 some teeing off all the time. Why are people making reservations and not cancel if they're not going to make it. It used to be that I try 5 pm a day before, I can get a decent tee time. Now I see nothing even when I try 5 min to midnight... Why?

[dewilson58]

Were the Snow's playing Executive courses??? or Championship courses??

[n8xwb]

1. It used to be that thee were only 65000 Villagers. Now there are 120,000?!

2. While to he population has increased, the developer has not built an equivalent number of new executive courses.

3. Used to be you got less points against you if you canceled your teetime, not anymore -- don't have a clue why they made that change. So now, why be there canceling? At least that seems to be the attitude of many.

Why the heck don't you put in a request in advance instead o do hoping to find something last minute?!

[Scbang]

1. It used to be that thee were only 65000 Villagers. Now there are 120,000?!

2. While to he population has increased, the developer has not built an equivalent number of new executive courses.

3. Used to be you got less points against you if you canceled your teetime, not anymore -- don't have a clue why they made that change. So now, why be there canceling? At least that seems to be the attitude of many.

Why the heck don't you put in a request in advance instead o do hoping to find something last minute?!

I agree with 1 and 2 and 3 I did not know. That is a bad policy and explains why no one cancels. I book my reservation on 12:30 am earliest anyone can. Still no luck..

[Mleeja]

It seems that at any one time there are 5 or 6 executive courses closed for maintenance. This just maybe for a day, week, or summer. Regardless, this reduces the number of spots available for play.

[tuccillo]

Put in a request, 4-7 days in advance.


I agree with 1 and 2 and 3 I did not know. That is a bad policy and explains why no one cancels. I book my reservation on 12:30 am earliest anyone can. Still no luck..

[Trayderjoe]

1. It used to be that thee were only 65000 Villagers. Now there are 120,000?!

2. While to he population has increased, the developer has not built an equivalent number of new executive courses.

3. Used to be you got less points against you if you canceled your teetime, not anymore -- don't have a clue why they made that change. So now, why be there canceling? At least that seems to be the attitude of many.

Why the heck don't you put in a request in advance instead o do hoping to find something last minute?!

Actually #2 is a consideration. Also, given the heat of the day and it appears that it may rain more late morning and afternoon, people seem to want to go out earlier in the day.

#3 is not correct. The only time penalty cancellation points are normally not assigned, is if a weather event is identified by the appropriate Villages department. The weather event could be from stormy/rainy weather or colder weather over the winter. Note too that such events don’t necessarily cover the entire day, but could be tee times between or up to certain identified tee times. Check The Villages golf website as it will post if a weather event is identified and which tee times are impacted.

[Papa_lecki]

Were the Snow's playing Executive courses??? or Championship courses??

As usual - dewilson is on point.
If youre spending a couple hundred grand on a second house for 3 months in a community with 800 holes of golf, you are probably spending more time on championship courses.
They may grab one or two a week on executives with friends, spouses, etc.

[tuccillo]

Prior to the construction south of 44, there were approximately 1600 homes per executive golf course. There have been 5 new executive golf courses built south of 44, so far. Assuming the same ratio of houses to executive courses, these 5 new courses could support 8000 new homes. I suspect about 8000 new homes have been build south of 44 to date, maybe a bit more. I don't see an issue.



2. While to he population has increased, the developer has not built an equivalent number of new executive courses.

[I'm Popeye!]

Many golf courses are close for extended period of time.
Fixing what the snowbirds have destroyed, this goes on every year. :jester:

[Laker14]

Many golf courses are close for extended period of time.
Fixing what the snowbirds have destroyed, this goes on every year. :jester:
Those darn snowbirds!

Having the nerve to utilize amenities for 3 or 4 months that they pay for, for 12 months.

[yabbadu]

Other than a few courses being closed for repairs, usually the problem is the user.
Need to be open as to your availability.

Do Not request 1-3 courses in a two hour frame time.

Better if you request 3-6+ courses for a four+ hour time frame. The more you limit time and number of courses , the less chance of success.Been doing online system for over eight years and NEVER was denied. It's all based on how you utilize the golf system.

Choice is yours!

[Mrprez]

Snowbirds knew what they were getting into when they bought their homes. They deserve nothing special.

[SIRE1]

Hey, don't blame me if you can't get a tee time during the summer. I'm back north.:icon_wink:

[JMintzer]

Snowbirds knew what they were getting into when they bought their homes. They deserve nothing special.

I don't seem to remember them asking for anything special...

[Marathon Man]

Prior to the construction south of 44, there were approximately 1600 homes per executive golf course. There have been 5 new executive golf courses build south of 44, so far. Assuming the same ratio of houses to executive courses, these 5 new courses could support 8000 new homes. I suspect about 8000 new homes have been build south of 44 to date, maybe a bit more. I don't see an issue.

Excellent information. Unfortunately, the myth will probably not due. Along with the myth that "The Developer" builds lots of new houses first and then amenities after.

[Mrprez]

I don't seem to remember them asking for anything special...

See post 11.

[Papa_lecki]

Excellent information. Unfortunately, the myth will probably not due. Along with the myth that "The Developer" builds lots of new houses first and then amenities after.

I seem to recall there a bunch of new executive and championship courses are being built.
Its economics.
The developer builds houses, then when the economics for resident density makes sense - the amenities open. Golf course are amenities and are expense to maintain.

[DonH57]

So, when snowbirds left ( if they ever did ) I thought it'll be easier to book a tee time for 2 of us. In fact, it was easier for a little while. Then what happened? Did snowbirds come back? I can not make any morning tee time anymore till 2-3 pm. But then when we make it out there, it is not that busy. I see 2 some 3 some teeing off all the time. Why are people making reservations and not cancel if they're not going to make it. It used to be that I try 5 pm a day before, I can get a decent tee time. Now I see nothing even when I try 5 min to midnight... Why?

In the two groups I primarily play getting tee times generally no problem. It's getting courses south of 466 we are getting locked out of. This had going on for about 8 months now. We all live north of 466 and there is no reason we should locked out of the southern courses.

[photo1902]

I seem to recall there a bunch of new executive and championship courses are being built.
Its economics.
The developer builds houses, then when the economics for resident density makes sense - the amenities open. Golf course are amenities and are expense to maintain.

Huh?

[JMintzer]

See post 11.

Please show me where in that post where they ask for anything special...

[Scbang]

Actually #2 is a consideration. Also, given the heat of the day and it appears that it may rain more late morning and afternoon, people seem to want to go out earlier in the day.

#3 is not correct. The only time penalty cancellation points are normally not assigned, is if a weather event is identified by the appropriate Villages department. The weather event could be from stormy/rainy weather or colder weather over the winter. Note too that such events don’t necessarily cover the entire day, but could be tee times between or up to certain identified tee times. Check The Villages golf website as it will post if a weather event is identified and which tee times are impacted.
Where is the current point system regarding cancellation? I used to be able to see it on golfthevillages.com but not anymore..

[dewilson58]

Please show me where in that post where they ask for anything special...

Your 11 may not be my 11...........depends how you sort posts.

[Mrprez]

Please show me where in that post where they ask for anything special...

I didn’t say they asked for anything special, I said they deserve nothing special. They are no different than non-golfing residents who pay into the upkeep in the executive courses but derive no active benefits. They do get to enjoy the green areas that can be seen from their houses, streets or MMP areas.

[Leadbone1]

So, when snowbirds left ( if they ever did ) I thought it'll be easier to book a tee time for 2 of us. In fact, it was easier for a little while. Then what happened? Did snowbirds come back? I can not make any morning tee time anymore till 2-3 pm. But then when we make it out there, it is not that busy. I see 2 some 3 some teeing off all the time. Why are people making reservations and not cancel if they're not going to make it. It used to be that I try 5 pm a day before, I can get a decent tee time. Now I see nothing even when I try 5 min to midnight... Why?

BS… since the snowbirds left i’m having no trouble getting a teetime from like 2 PM on on dozens of courses.

[Beyond The Wall]

It’s the snowbirds that keep your fees as reasonable as they are. I have no way of knowing but I assume most Villages at one time were Snowbirds.

[wsachs]

I agree with 1 and 2 and 3 I did not know. That is a bad policy and explains why no one cancels. I book my reservation on 12:30 am earliest anyone can. Still no luck..
I play with two different groups of guys on executive courses on Mondays, Tuesdays and Fridays. We always seem to be able to get a tee time when requested. You might not be putting in a large enough window of time or listing enough course choices. Also many are closed on various days because of maintenance . You can check out the schedule of when they are closed and not choose them when making your request.

[joelfmi]

So, when snowbirds left ( if they ever did ) I thought it'll be easier to book a tee time for 2 of us. In fact, it was easier for a little while. Then what happened? Did snowbirds come back? I can not make any morning tee time anymore till 2-3 pm. But then when we make it out there, it is not that busy. I see 2 some 3 some teeing off all the time. Why are people making reservations and not cancel if they're not going to make it. It used to be that I try 5 pm a day before, I can get a decent tee time. Now I see nothing even when I try 5 min to midnight... Why?These are some of the thing that are never told when you are buying at the villages.

[toeser]

So, when snowbirds left ( if they ever did ) I thought it'll be easier to book a tee time for 2 of us. In fact, it was easier for a little while. Then what happened? Did snowbirds come back? I can not make any morning tee time anymore till 2-3 pm. But then when we make it out there, it is not that busy. I see 2 some 3 some teeing off all the time. Why are people making reservations and not cancel if they're not going to make it. It used to be that I try 5 pm a day before, I can get a decent tee time. Now I see nothing even when I try 5 min to midnight... Why?

Oh trust me, we left. I cannot stand the thought of 78 degree dewpoints.

[Billy1]

I have lived here 3 years, never had a problem getting a tee time. I often hear people complain of difficulty getting a tee time, don't understand. Maybe a relaxing tea time would help.

[tuccillo]

Obtaining tee times on the executive courses, via a request, can be challenging during snowbird season under some conditions. If you have a large group with a relatively high average number of points, you want to play in the morning, and you are selective as to where you will play then you may be denied a tee time. This does happen. Extending the time window, including more courses, and excluding those individuals with a high number of points (which will bring down the average), will improve the chances of obtaining tee times via a request. Also, the most northern courses and the most southern courses (south of 44) appear to have less demand so including those in the request will also help.

I have lived here 3 years, never had a problem getting a tee time. I often hear people complain of difficulty getting a tee time, don't understand. Maybe a relaxing tea time would help.

[richs631]

Been making reservations 4 times per week and have not been blocked out since the snow birds left and only got blocked out 3 times during snow bird season. Make your reservations earlier, that might help

[Marathon Man]

So, when snowbirds left ( if they ever did ) I thought it'll be easier to book a tee time for 2 of us. In fact, it was easier for a little while. Then what happened? Did snowbirds come back? I can not make any morning tee time anymore till 2-3 pm. But then when we make it out there, it is not that busy. I see 2 some 3 some teeing off all the time. Why are people making reservations and not cancel if they're not going to make it. It used to be that I try 5 pm a day before, I can get a decent tee time. Now I see nothing even when I try 5 min to midnight... Why?

Making a morning tee time in the heat of summer is a great idea. That is why everyone is doing it.

[tuccillo]

I think you actually mean "request", not "reservation". The order of when the requests are made doesn't matter in regard to your chances of obtaining a tee time. All of the requests are processed between midnight and 12:30AM, 3 days in advance. For example, requests for Sunday are processed Thursday morning.

Been making reservations 4 times per week and have not been blocked out since the snow birds left and only got blocked out 3 times during snow bird season. Make your reservations earlier, that might help

[richs631]

I think you actually mean "request", not "reservation". The order of when the requests are made doesn't matter in regard to your chances of obtaining a tee time. All of the requests are processed between midnight and 12:30AM, 3 days in advance. For example, requests for Sunday are processed Thursday morning.

Most probably get a tee time because my requests have a large time window and large selection of courses. What ever it is, it works for me

[irishwonone]

Bingo!! You are correct. After 55 years in Florida I’ve grown fond of SUMMER early mornings. Thank you.

[SERENITY52]

1. It used to be that thee were only 65000 Villagers. Now there are 120,000?!

2. While to he population has increased, the developer has not built an equivalent number of new executive courses.

3. Used to be you got less points against you if you canceled your teetime, not anymore -- don't have a clue why they made that change. So now, why be there canceling? At least that seems to be the attitude of many.

Why the heck don't you put in a request in advance instead o do hoping to find something last minute?!
The population might have increased to 120,000, but the is not full time. Additionally, I doubt that they are all golfers. As a matter of fact, the majority of new buyers are not golfers.

[golfing eagles]

The population might have increased to 120,000, but the is not full time. Additionally, I doubt that they are all golfers. As a matter of fact, the majority of new buyers are not golfers.

I don't know that. How do you???? Care to cite a source for that "fact"

[Ken D.]

I have lived here 3 years, never had a problem getting a tee time. I often hear people complain of difficulty getting a tee time, don't understand. Maybe a relaxing tea time would help.

Some folks play 4-5 rounds per week, they fail to understand how the point system works. The more points, the lesser chance of getting reservations. BTW, no shows are 3 points vs. 2 for cancellations.

[JMintzer]

Your 11 may not be my 11...........depends how you sort posts.

My post #11 states this:

"Those darn snowbirds!

Having the nerve to utilize amenities for 3 or 4 months that they pay for, for 12 months."

Yours?

[JMintzer]

I didn’t say they asked for anything special, I said they deserve nothing special. They are no different than non-golfing residents who pay into the upkeep in the executive courses but derive no active benefits. They do get to enjoy the green areas that can be seen from their houses, streets or MMP areas.

Why would you say that "they deserve nothing special" if you didn't think they were asking for something special?

[Trayderjoe]

Where is the current point system regarding cancellation? I used to be able to see it on golfthevillages.com but not anymore..

The information is in a “Golfing in The Villages” brochure linked document. You can find the link under “Requesting A Tee Time” option on the “Golfing In The Villages” web page.

[Mrprez]

Why would you say that "they deserve nothing special" if you didn't think they were asking for something special?

What is it with you? People get things all the time without asking. Are you a thin skinned snowbird? If so, my apologies. Good grief.

[JMintzer]

What is it with you? People get things all the time without asking. Are you a thin skinned snowbird? If so, my apologies. Good grief.

If they don't ask, why would you say they think they "deserve" anything?

I constantly get compliments on my "boyish good looks", yet I don't expect nor think I "deserve" anything for what God has blessed me...

And to your other insult... No... I'm a year round bird, coming and going as I see fit...

I'll be back down this Saturday, and again for 2 weeks in August...

Any other insults, er... I mean questions?

[Blueblaze]

Wow, we must have bought in the right place. We have 6 Exec courses within 15 min, and have never had a problem getting a morning tee time. I reserved Friday 7:20 at Santiago just this morning for my wife and I, and so far, we've got it to ourselves. In the afternoon I could walk on at my closest two courses just about any day, even when the snowbirds were here.

We haven't been here long, but some of these complainer threads just don't jibe with our experience. It makes me wonder if they're started by people who just like stirring the pot. Maybe they need a hobby. How about Golf!

[JMintzer]

Wow, we must have bought in the right place. We have 6 Exec courses within 15 min, and have never had a problem getting a morning tee time. I reserved Friday 7:20 at Santiago just this morning for my wife and I, and so far, we've got it to ourselves. In the afternoon I could walk on at my closest two courses just about any day, even when the snowbirds were here.

We haven't been here long, but some of these complainer threads just don't jibe with our experience. It makes me wonder if they're started by people who just like stirring the pot. Maybe they need a hobby. How about Golf!

I do believe that "stirring the pot" IS their hobby! ;)

[KYtoTV2021]

Golf courses are expenses. Building more and more houses is revenue. This is how it has been for 10 years and how it apparently is going to continue to be.

[Mrprez]

If they don't ask, why would you say they think they "deserve" anything?

I constantly get compliments on my "boyish good looks", yet I don't expect nor think I "deserve" anything for what God has blessed me...

And to your other insult... No... I'm a year round bird, coming and going as I see fit...

I'll be back down this Saturday, and again for 2 weeks in August...

Any other insults, er... I mean questions?

One more thing before you go on my ignore list. Get some help. You have some serious issues.

[JMintzer]

One more thing before you go on my ignore list. Get some help. You have some serious issues.

I'll be sure to get right on that!

[Papa_lecki]

I'll be sure to get right on that!

@jmaintzer - I’m like you, not a snowbird, not a full timer. I was told we are called snow flakes????

[JMintzer]

@jmaintzer - I’m like you, not a snowbird, not a full timer. I was told we are called snow flakes????

Without getting political, I was under the impression that "Snowflakes" had an entirely different meaning... ;)

[Scbang]

I do believe that "stirring the pot" IS their hobby! ;)
No hobby of stirring anything. Just last night close to midnight, I only saw 12:53 as an earliest available for 2 some except Marsh View. People do not cancel their unused tee time. The actual courses, when I get there, are not that busy. And I would not dare to bring my boss to the course without a reserved tee time.

[Marathon Man]

No hobby of stirring anything. Just last night close to midnight, I only saw 12:53 as an earliest available for 2 some except Marsh View. People do not cancel their unused tee time. The actual courses, when I get there, are not that busy. And I would not dare to bring my boss to the course without a reserved tee time.

Have you talked to anyone who is in charge of the tee time system?

If the no-show penalty has indeed been dropped, I see that as a problem. Personally, I would like to see a higher no-show penalty. That might also help stop the practice of using a friend's number to hold a spot that eventually does not get used.

[tuccillo]

If you are on a reservation and show up you will get one point.
If you are on a reservation and cancel prior to the day of play you will get two points.
If you are on a reservation and cancel or no-show the day of play you will get three points.

If you obtain your reservation via a request, you may get less than 1 point if the requested time varies from the assigned time by certain amounts.

https://www.golfthevillages.com/golf-in-the-villages/GolftheVillages.pdf

Have you talked to anyone who is in charge of the tee time system?

If the no-show penalty has indeed been dropped, I see that as a problem. Personally, I would like to see a higher no-show penalty. That might also help stop the practice of using a friend's number to hold a spot that eventually does not get used.