Playing a round of golf when the course is closed.

[Ben Franklin]

After the rain, I took a little cart ride this evening and drove past two Executive courses. Both courses were closed, with a "Course Closed" sign on their windows and another sign that read, "Cart Paths Only."

There was a two some who had just teed off on the first hole, at one course, and on the other course there was a foursome in play around the third hole who drove on the fairway. Then, a 3some pulled up to play, without stopping at the starter's shack. I politely told them the course was closed, but they ignored me, and went to the first hole and teed off.

What really annoyed me though were the people who drove on the fairway, after all the rain we just had. The old, Starter/Ranger in me wanted to drive up to them, and read them the riot act.

[stanley]

Entitled and priviledged. There are quite a few here on this forum that think that's OK.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I can totally understand wanting to walk on the golf cart path when the course is closed, just for the sake of enjoying the walk.

But the course is closed. That means - no golfing. No driving your cart, no playing. Closed. They're probably closed because they need to do various landscaping things with the grass. That requires that people NOT use it for awhile.

People complain when a course is in bad shape. Well how about - stop using it when it's closed, and give the groundskeepers a chance to get it into good shape. Or, keep it in lousy shape and stop complaining about it.

The same thing about people who think "well I have to pay a trail fee even if I'm a passenger, so I should get my own cart and drive alone" - well sure. But if everyone thought that way, there'd be a lot more problems with the courses, and they'd be whining even more about it.

I was absolutely positive that this older generation (those people in their 70's and 80's) are the ones who taught MY generation to do the right thing, simply because it was the right thing to do. Maybe they've forgotten in their old age.

[Garywt]

People need to be held responsible and lose their golf privileges for doing things like this. Why they think they are better than the rest nobody knows.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

People need to be held responsible and lose their golf privileges for doing things like this. Why they think they are better than the rest nobody knows.

If the course is closed, it means there aren't any ambassadors on duty there. Or anyone else. They get away with it because who's gonna stop them?

[DonH57]

People need to be held responsible and lose their golf privileges for doing things like this. Why they think they are better than the rest nobody knows.

One of the many problems with the entitled and priveledged here in the villages. Not caught and not dealt with accordingly. No enforcement of any rules.

[villagetinker]

A call to community watch might solve the problem.

[b0bd0herty]

A call to community watch might solve the problem.

Community Watch does not enforce... only watches and reports. Probably Rec Services or whoever owns the golf courses would have to call local law enforcement.

[kidnerkim]

Should have called Community watch. Would love to seed these card pulled for no more golf

[Leadbone1]

After the rain, I took a little cart ride this evening and drove past two Executive courses. Both courses were closed, with a "Course Closed" sign on their windows and another sign that read, "Cart Paths Only."

There was a two some who had just teed off on the first hole, at one course, and on the other course there was a foursome in play around the third hole who drove on the fairway. Then, a 3some pulled up to play, without stopping at the starter's shack. I politely told them the course was closed, but they ignored me, and went to the first hole and teed off.

What really annoyed me though were the people who drove on the fairway, after all the rain we just had. The old, Starter/Ranger in me wanted to drive up to them, and read them the riot act.

Honestly who cares? It’s not a big deal. It’s part of what they pay for in their amenities. I don’t agree with driving on the fairways when wet, but if people are on the cart path and playing and still have daylight I see no problem. The people out here that are over reacting to this are probably folks that still have masks on! Lighten up people!

[Leadbone1]

One of the many problems with the entitled and priveledged here in the villages. Not caught and not dealt with accordingly. No enforcement of any rules.

Caught and dealt with accordingly? I think you may be living in the wrong country. Maybe China or Russia would work better for you! They’re using an amenity that they pay for. Get a clue!

[tsmall22204]

Why were you in your cart on the course. Glass houses!

[pvetrano1]

Who cares ! Don't you have more important things to worry about ?

[Annie66]

Honestly who cares? It’s not a big deal. It’s part of what they pay for in their amenities. I don’t agree with driving on the fairways when wet, but if people are on the cart path and playing and still have daylight I see no problem. The people out here that are over reacting to this are probably folks that still have masks on! Lighten up people!

I was with you until your 4th sentence. You just couldn't help yourself.:ohdear::ohdear:

[dewilson58]

I can totally understand wanting to walk on the golf cart path when the course is closed, just for the sake of enjoying the walk. But the course is closed. That means - no golfing. No driving your cart, no playing.

Great Post............Rule are Rules, except when I don't like them.

:MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot:

[Rosebud1949]

I was with you until your 4th sentence. You just couldn't help yourself.:ohdear::ohdear:

I am a privileged one, ( large letters so you can see me) golf when I want even if I wreck the course, dont wear a mask even if it will save a life (possibly mine) Care about no one but myself.

[DrBrutyle109]

I walk and carry my bag when I play the executive courses. They DO NOT WORK ON THE COURSES AFTER THEY ARE CLOSED!!!!
It would have to something major they were doing to be working on it after 7pm. Any work is started early in the AM and again other work like airation, the course closed all day. Tell me what I’m hurting by walking and playing at 7:30 at night? I’ve never understood why they do the “closed” thing.

[Beyond The Wall]

Honestly, I care. Closed means closed! Not hard to understand . Whatever the reason for closure. Plenty of places to play . Just inconsiderate people .

[Pachine58]

Did they do anything to cause you personally a problem ? Then mind your own business. They hurt no one and probable had fun golfing.

Life is to short to be a Nancy.

[Joanne19335]

After the rain, I took a little cart ride this evening and drove past two Executive courses. Both courses were closed, with a "Course Closed" sign on their windows and another sign that read, "Cart Paths Only."

There was a two some who had just teed off on the first hole, at one course, and on the other course there was a foursome in play around the third hole who drove on the fairway. Then, a 3some pulled up to play, without stopping at the starter's shack. I politely told them the course was closed, but they ignored me, and went to the first hole and teed off.

What really annoyed me though were the people who drove on the fairway, after all the rain we just had. The old, Starter/Ranger in me wanted to drive up to them, and read them the riot act.

Which courses? I wish it had been me that saw them. I would have asked for ID numbers. I AM employed by TV.

[Nick B]

Honestly who cares? It’s not a big deal. It’s part of what they pay for in their amenities. I don’t agree with driving on the fairways when wet, but if people are on the cart path and playing and still have daylight I see no problem. The people out here that are over reacting to this are probably folks that still have masks on! Lighten up people!
I was with you till the mask part.

[Nick B]

Did they do anything to cause you personally a problem ? Then mind your own business. They hurt no one and probable had fun golfing.

Life is to short to be a Nancy.
Too many middle management types here missing the power they had at work. Mind your own business.

[oneclickplus]

After the rain, I took a little cart ride this evening and drove past two Executive courses. Both courses were closed, with a "Course Closed" sign on their windows and another sign that read, "Cart Paths Only."

There was a two some who had just teed off on the first hole, at one course, and on the other course there was a foursome in play around the third hole who drove on the fairway. Then, a 3some pulled up to play, without stopping at the starter's shack. I politely told them the course was closed, but they ignored me, and went to the first hole and teed off.

What really annoyed me though were the people who drove on the fairway, after all the rain we just had. The old, Starter/Ranger in me wanted to drive up to them, and read them the riot act.

Did you ask for their vaccination status? That's the first thing you should be doing.

/SARC

[golfing eagles]

Honestly who cares? It’s not a big deal. It’s part of what they pay for in their amenities. I don’t agree with driving on the fairways when wet, but if people are on the cart path and playing and still have daylight I see no problem. The people out here that are over reacting to this are probably folks that still have masks on! Lighten up people!

I care and I see a problem

First of all, it wasn't clear if this was an exec or champ course. If it was a champ course these people were TRESPASSING and I would call the community watch if after the clubhouse was closed.

Second, did these people pay a yearly trail fee or was it ala carte? If so, they were stealing from the CDD on an exec

Third, and MOST IMPORTANT, amenities are not solely a benefit paid for in the monthly fee, they come with RESPONSIBILITIES as well.
My amenity fee pays for flowers in the RB's and intersection. Does that mean since I paid I can trample all over them?
I pay to maintain the Rec centers, does that mean I can break in at 2 AM and play billiards? (And no one tell me that isn't the same---when you drive your cart past the "course closed" sign, you are essentially breaking in).
Those who suggest that this behavior is acceptable are just promoting anarchy. (which is what you get when there are no rules or the rules are being ignored.) Imagine what TV would be like if EVERYONE ignored the rules, not just some entitled, selfish few???? You wouldn't survive a RB. or a MMP. There would be dead cyclists and pedestrians strewn all about. The golf courses would look like a minefield. Properties would look like a slum.

If the sign says "course closed", IT IS CLOSED, and for a reason. It's not up to you to decide if it is a valid reason or if you agree with it, or if YOU don't think you are doing any damage. JUST FOLLOW THE RULES!!!!!

End of rant.

[DonH57]

Caught and dealt with accordingly? I think you may be living in the wrong country. Maybe China or Russia would work better for you! They’re using an amenity that they pay for. Get a clue!

Ohh. My goodness did I word it to offensively to the sensitive snowflakes out there. So you would have absolutely no problem with me and my buds setting up a tent and camp out partying in your yard and leaving it trashed then? Playing on a a closed course is trespassing.

[golfing eagles]

Too many middle management types here missing the power they had at work. Mind your own business.

Really. So if you were driving down your street and saw some kids with a can of spray paint putting graffiti on a neighbor's house you would "mind your own business"? I'm glad you're not my neighbor.

[ChrissyI1]

Seriously?? Take off your mask? Pathetic! No wonder this country is in chaos!

[Mohawksin]

OP said Exec.

[Billy1]

Evening golfers help keep the bikers, dogs, golf path tours and walkers off our cart paths. But , come out anyway and ask me for my village ID.

[Mohawksin]

Exec

[ChrissyI1]

Grow up!

[72lions]

No. The amenity was closed. You are simply wrong. Following your logic, you should be allowed to swim or use courts 24/7.

[Larchap49]

Did you ask for their vaccination status? That's the first thing you should be doing.

/SARC

No that's the last thing someone elses vaccination status is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. See Hippa laws

[golfing eagles]

Did you ask for their vaccination status? That's the first thing you should be doing.

/SARC

No that's the last thing someone elses vaccination status is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. See Hippa laws

Silly me! And I thought the topic of this thread was playing golf on a closed course.

[Larchap49]

Yes you are

[Windguy]

Honestly who cares? It’s not a big deal.

It is a big deal. The courses were closed yesterday because the rain caused to ground to be extra soft. Walking on the greens causes depressions and driving on the fairways causes ruts.

[JMintzer]

Why were you in your cart on the course. Glass houses!

You do realize you can see the first tee from the parking lot and much of the rest of the course from the MMP...

Or maybe you don't...

[JMintzer]

Did they do anything to cause you personally a problem ? Then mind your own business. They hurt no one and probable had fun golfing.

Life is to short to be a Nancy.

You spelled "Karen" wrong... ;)

[golfing eagles]

You spelled "Karen" wrong... ;)

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[JMintzer]

No that's the last thing someone elses vaccination status is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. See Hippa laws

You might have missed this...

https://media1.tenor.com/images/fe5ac416998d9cbd879975cadd4b295f/tenor.gif?itemid=5631936

[JMintzer]

It is a big deal. The courses were closed yesterday because the rain caused to ground to be extra soft. Walking on the greens causes depressions and driving on the fairways causes ruts.

https://media.tenor.com/images/99e838e3032c19b90953cdb47076fa67/tenor.gif

[Bill14564]

No that's the last thing someone elses vaccination status is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. See Hippa laws

It is HIPAA, it doesn't say what you think it does, and it isn't germane to this thread.

[FromNY]

Next: pools, remove the closed sign and pool party all night! Hey why bother with rules?

[JeanC]

I so believe they may have just been unaware???? Oftentimes golfers go out after 7 without a tee time without stopping at the shack where you said the sign was located. Just a thought.

[Girlcopper]

Community Watch does not enforce... only watches and reports. Probably Rec Services or whoever owns the golf courses would have to call local law enforcement.
Again, the solution is to call the police. Do you actually think the police will enforce your golf course rules?. Thats not their problem and Im sure they dont care

[Joanne19335]

Evening golfers help keep the bikers, dogs, golf path tours and walkers off our cart paths. But , come out anyway and ask me for my village ID.

The last tee time is 6:53.

[turk3531]

ALL par 3's in TV, are cart path only; execs and champ. No CAP, no on the fairways. In wet conditions, CART PATH ONLY! As far as playing after hours playing, the shacks are closed. If conditions allow, it is perfectly OK to play.

[golfing eagles]

I so believe they may have just been unaware???? Oftentimes golfers go out after 7 without a tee time without stopping at the shack where you said the sign was located. Just a thought.

Generally there is an orange cone on the path to the first tee with a "course closed" sign. Hard to imagine that anyone was "unaware"

[yankygrl]

After the rain, I took a little cart ride this evening and drove past two Executive courses. Both courses were closed, with a "Course Closed" sign on their windows and another sign that read, "Cart Paths Only."

There was a two some who had just teed off on the first hole, at one course, and on the other course there was a foursome in play around the third hole who drove on the fairway. Then, a 3some pulled up to play, without stopping at the starter's shack. I politely told them the course was closed, but they ignored me, and went to the first hole and teed off.

What really annoyed me though were the people who drove on the fairway, after all the rain we just had. The old, Starter/Ranger in me wanted to drive up to them, and read them the riot act.
Some people have no respect for the area we live in or other residents. I live near 3 executive courses and in the past it was not unusual that we’d go out and play a few holes after they were closed for the day BUT if it rained it is common sense that you’d stay off that course. OH WAIT - COMMON SENSE some people lack that and don’t respect rules.

[golfing eagles]

Some people have no respect for the area we live in or other residents. I live near 3 executive courses and in the past it was not unusual that we’d go out and play a few holes after they were closed for the day BUT if it rained it is common sense that you’d stay off that course. OH WAIT - COMMON SENSE some people lack that and don’t respect rules.

So, in you mind (rationalization), it is OK to VIOLATE the course closed admonition if the course is dry, but not if wet? Did the sign say "course closed unless YOU feel it is dry enough, or late enough, or simply that you won't get caught"?

Well, at least that is better than those that think it is OK to violate the rules whenever they feel like it.

[merrymini]

Rule, rules, we don’t need no stinkin rules!

[Polar Bear]

Courses aren’t closed automatically after the shack closes. But when the ‘course closed’ signs are out, that’s a totally different story.

[Rodneysblue]

Honestly who cares? It’s not a big deal. It’s part of what they pay for in their amenities. I don’t agree with driving on the fairways when wet, but if people are on the cart path and playing and still have daylight I see no problem. The people out here that are over reacting to this are probably folks that still have masks on! Lighten up people!
So the heck with the rules and full speed ahead. Look at how well that’s working for are world right now.

[RDhot]

You people are beyond rational and reasonable. HIPAA Does not apply to asking you about your vaccination status.

[jbrown132]

Caught and dealt with accordingly? I think you may be living in the wrong country. Maybe China or Russia would work better for you! They’re using an amenity that they pay for. Get a clue!
What would happen to you if you went into a business that had a sign that said closed. You would probably be arrested. I am not advocating that these offenders be arrested, but closed means closed and they should not be on the course. If everyone took the attitude I can do what I want when I want this place would become an absolute zoo.

[Velvet]

Too many middle management types here missing the power they had at work. Mind your own business.

You are right, since I pay amenities, the executive courses ARE my business.

[ScottGo]

Saw 3 different groups playing during the lighting, one on a green holding the pin up over his head. For the love of golf or just no brain.

[golfing eagles]

Saw 3 different groups playing during the lighting, one on a green holding the pin up over his head. For the love of golf or just no brain.

Performing a service for all the other idiots out there by lessening the chance of others getting hit?:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[JMintzer]

Saw 3 different groups playing during the lighting, one on a green holding the pin up over his head. For the love of golf or just no brain.

Should'a been holding a 1 iron... Even God can't hit a 1 iron...

[UpNorth]

You people are beyond rational and reasonable. HIPAA Does not apply to asking you about your vaccination status.

Correct. It just means you don't have to answer.

[Mortal1]

If you call the local police they will be forced to leave the course or be arrested and fined! It's trespassing plain and simple.

[Mortal1]

Again, the solution is to call the police. Do you actually think the police will enforce your golf course rules?. Thats not their problem and Im sure they dont care

an ambassador friend of mine was not working near sunset...people were playing/walking and he called the local police. They did show up and escorted the people off the course.

Just because you belonged to a force that picked and chose what laws/ordinances to enforce doesn't mean there aren't cops that do the whole job.

[sherryszekeres@gmail.com]

A call to community watch might solve the problem.

My husband is from Allentown. We sure miss those steak sandwiches.

[Red Rose]

Some of them were actually driving their carts on the sopping wet fairways. That is just plain rude and childish. They would be the first ones to complain about the condition of a golf course. If they at least had stayed on the cart path only as requested by the sign, I wouldn't be so annoyed with them.

[Dlbonivich]

Just so you are aware during summer hours you can play a reduced rate late and play. The starter shack is closed and the ambassador is gone. You can play as many holes as you can before dark. Driving on the fairway is not right if it is cart path only, unless the person has a handicap pass.

[Red Rose]

He wasn't on the course in his cart. He was driving by a n d can see from the road. Those of you who don't believe in rules should move to one of our cities with the rioters and break all the rules with them. Hope you have fun.

[RonRich]

People feel entitled to break the rules. They are above the law in many situations. In a nut shell this is what's wrong with the World today. Like any and all of the freedoms we have the rule breakers force change. What else can be done besides put gates up? We wonder why its not like the good ole days. This is just one example.
Just to vent on my pet peeve, how about speed on the cart paths? The speeders cause the back-ups. They feel they're cool and getting away with something. Enforcement is the solution. It is coming to that. People are getting hurt.
So when change comes there is only a handful of people that drive it and we see it in front of us everyday

[golfing eagles]

Just so you are aware during summer hours you can play a reduced rate late and play. The starter shack is closed and the ambassador is gone. You can play as many holes as you can before dark. Driving on the fairway is not right if it is cart path only, unless the person has a handicap pass.

"After hours" and "Course Closed" are two different things. And that late rate applies only to championship courses.

Also, if it is cart path only, your "handicap pass" means nothing, you still have to stay on the cart path

[golfing eagles]

The speeders cause the back-ups. They feel they're cool and getting away with something.

all I can say is:

89920

[Thaxxx]

Should'a been holding a 1 iron... Even God can't hit a 1 iron...
But Jack Nicholas could.

[Velvet]

"After hours" and "Course Closed" are two different things. And that late rate applies only to championship courses.

Also, if it is cart path only, your "handicap pass" means nothing, you still have to stay on the cart path

Thank you for clearing up the issue.

[DonH57]

Some of them were actually driving their carts on the sopping wet fairways. That is just plain rude and childish. They would be the first ones to complain about the condition of a golf course. If they at least had stayed on the cart path only as requested by the sign, I wouldn't be so annoyed with them.

How about the ones that drive around the puddles in the cart path creating ruts and getting mud on their cart and then the following carts do the same? How much sense does that make?

[Papa_lecki]

Interesting thread.
The cart path only thing is clear, they can play, but stay on cart path. It’s for the course.

Course Closed - probably not for the rain but because it was that course’s maintenance day. Just like you wouldn’t have walked a round on Mangrove when they closed it for the bridge work.

On a course open for the day, tee times end at 7PM - but if the course isn’t closed, you can play until the sign goes down. This doesn’t seem to be one of those times.

[DonH57]

People feel entitled to break the rules. They are above the law in many situations. In a nut shell this is what's wrong with the World today. Like any and all of the freedoms we have the rule breakers force change. What else can be done besides put gates up? We wonder why its not like the good ole days. This is just one example.
Just to vent on my pet peeve, how about speed on the cart paths? The speeders cause the back-ups. They feel they're cool and getting away with something. Enforcement is the solution. It is coming to that. People are getting hurt.
So when change comes there is only a handful of people that drive it and we see it in front of us everyday

The speed on the multi modal paths will never be enforced because they're private property and speeders know they will never be caught and know they couldn't be positively identified if they did cause property damage or injury unless their cart was disabled. Speeding is one thing. It's the passing on blind curves or heavy oncoming traffic that's the problem. We've been here nearly 8 years. Law enforcement presence has dropped significantly since.

[JMintzer]

all I can say is:

89920

Hey! I'm the meme guy! Quit steppin' on my turf! ;)

[JMintzer]

But Jack Nicholas could.

God took lessons from Nicklaus! ;)

[HoosierPa]

After the rain, I took a little cart ride this evening and drove past two Executive courses. Both courses were closed, with a "Course Closed" sign on their windows and another sign that read, "Cart Paths Only."

There was a two some who had just teed off on the first hole, at one course, and on the other course there was a foursome in play around the third hole who drove on the fairway. Then, a 3some pulled up to play, without stopping at the starter's shack. I politely told them the course was closed, but they ignored me, and went to the first hole and teed off.

What really annoyed me though were the people who drove on the fairway, after all the rain we just had. The old, Starter/Ranger in me wanted to drive up to them, and read them the riot act.

Call community watch next time. Nothing can be done now

[dewilson58]

God took lessons from Nicklaus! ;)

No, God gave Jack his skills. :ohdear:

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

God wouldn't play golf, ever. She'd always win, because she's perfect. And that would be boring. God would not want to spend eternity being bored.

[Debset]

Should have called Community watch. Would love to seed these card pulled for no more golf
Community Watch will not do anything.

[Jgbama1]

Honestly who cares? It’s not a big deal. It’s part of what they pay for in their amenities. I don’t agree with driving on the fairways when wet, but if people are on the cart path and playing and still have daylight I see no problem. The people out here that are over reacting to this are probably folks that still have masks on! Lighten up people!

You’re part of the problem. It is a big deal! Amenities don’t “entitle” you to do what you darn well please! Disgusting!!

[JeanC]

Generally there is an orange cone on the path to the first tee with a "course closed" sign. Hard to imagine that anyone was "unaware"

I agree but the op didn’t elude to a closed sign being located by the first tee.

[JeanC]

Just so you are aware during summer hours you can play a reduced rate late and play. The starter shack is closed and the ambassador is gone. You can play as many holes as you can before dark. Driving on the fairway is not right if it is cart path only, unless the person has a handicap pass.


Are you referring to executive courses?

[golfing eagles]

But Jack Nicholas could.

Don't know him. Is he anything like Jack Nicklaus????

[golfing eagles]

I agree but the op didn’t elude to a closed sign being located by the first tee.

Well, the OP stated the course was closed. If it was closed, there would have been an orange cone and a sign on the way to the first tee. So your point was????? And while the OP didn't ELUDE any sign, he didn't ALLUDE to one either

[Bogie Shooter]

I care and I see a problem

First of all, it wasn't clear if this was an exec or champ course. If it was a champ course these people were TRESPASSING and I would call the community watch if after the clubhouse was closed.

Second, did these people pay a yearly trail fee or was it ala carte? If so, they were stealing from the CDD on an exec

Third, and MOST IMPORTANT, amenities are not solely a benefit paid for in the monthly fee, they come with RESPONSIBILITIES as well.
My amenity fee pays for flowers in the RB's and intersection. Does that mean since I paid I can trample all over them?
I pay to maintain the Rec centers, does that mean I can break in at 2 AM and play billiards? (And no one tell me that isn't the same---when you drive your cart past the "course closed" sign, you are essentially breaking in).
Those who suggest that this behavior is acceptable are just promoting anarchy. (which is what you get when there are no rules or the rules are being ignored.) Imagine what TV would be like if EVERYONE ignored the rules, not just some entitled, selfish few???? You wouldn't survive a RB. or a MMP. There would be dead cyclists and pedestrians strewn all about. The golf courses would look like a minefield. Properties would look like a slum.

If the sign says "course closed", IT IS CLOSED, and for a reason. It's not up to you to decide if it is a valid reason or if you agree with it, or if YOU don't think you are doing any damage. JUST FOLLOW THE RULES!!!!!

End of rant.
You summed it very well!

[Bogie Shooter]

Yes you are

Who. What?

[JMintzer]

No, God gave Jack his skills. :ohdear:

Then why can't God hit a 1 iron? Answer me that, Batman...

Oh, and Lee Trevino (who's been struck by lightning THREE TIMES) is credited for that line...

[Bogie Shooter]

ALL par 3's in TV, are cart path only; execs and champ. No CAP, no on the fairways. In wet conditions, CART PATH ONLY! As far as playing after hours playing, the shacks are closed. If conditions allow, it is perfectly OK to play.
Based on what rule?

[Bogie Shooter]

You are right, since I pay amenities, the executive courses ARE my business.

You are SO wrong.

[Barborv]

My thing is, that if there's a closed sign or a do not enter sign, etc. I would be afraid to go. What if they're treating the lawn with a chemical or something. Signs are put up for a reason.

[Bogie Shooter]

Community Watch will not do anything.

How do you know?

[KYtoTV2021]

Did the management take all of the flags out? That will deter most people

[Ben Franklin]

It's interesting. I didn't take a count, but it looks like half are for following the rules and half aren't. What a facemask had to do with this is beyond me.

I respect golf courses, even though I am not a consistent player. I was more annoyed at the people driving on the fairway, since it had just poured all afternoon. I used to work part-time, at a country club golf course as a starter-ranger. We could golf for free, plus they paid us. Most of the time we golfed after hours, because employees were allowed, and that was generally the only time available, since we started people off on the first and the ninth at the same time. One evening I saw a group of young "college students" on the 18th (most likely grand kids of some of the homeowners. They were drinking and riding their carts in circles, so I started to drive toward them, and they high tailed it out of their fast, so I went back to my 4 some and we continued playing. When we got to the 18th green, we discovered they had put a beer can in the hole and then put the flag through the top of the can.

I never played with Jack, but I have played with god. He cheats though. One time he had a squirrel pick up his ball and drop it in the hole. On another occasion, an eagle swooped down, picked up his ball and dropped it right next to the flag.

[JMintzer]

II never played with Jack, but I have played with god. He cheats though. One time he had a squirrel pick up his ball and drop it in the hole. On another occasion, an eagle swooped down, picked up his ball and dropped it right next to the flag.

That's when Moses complained to God, "Are just gonna' screw around or are you gonna' play golf? :clap2:

[Velvet]

You are SO wrong.

Am I? I could be, amenities paying towards the executive courses…

“The Executive Golf Trail of The Villages provides another great avenue for recreation in the active lifestyle of a Villager. They are supported and maintained by the amenities fees of the residents of The Villages, meaning Greens Fees are free for all residents of The Villages. …”

Is this incorrect then?

[Papa_lecki]

Haven’t golfed with God or Jack. But once I jumped ship in Hong Kong and I make my way over to Tibet, and I get on as a looper at a course over in the Himalayas. A looper, you know, a caddy, a looper, a jock. So, I tell them I’m a pro jock, and who do you think they give me? The Dalai Lama, himself. Twelfth son of the Lama. The flowing robes, the grace, bald… striking. So, I’m on the first tee with him. I give him the driver. He hauls off and whacks one – big hitter, the Lama – long, into a ten-thousand foot crevasse, right at the base of this glacier. Do you know what the Lama says? Gunga galunga… gunga, gunga-lagunga. So we finish the eighteenth and he’s gonna stiff me. And I say, “Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know.” And he says, “Oh, uh, there won’t be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness.” So I got that goin’ for me, which is nice.

[Topspinmo]

Which courses? I wish it had been me that saw them. I would have asked for ID numbers. I AM employed by TV.

So, you work for village police department? You can pick any course and they will be there after hours, including championship courses hitting many approach shots on greens.

[JMintzer]

Haven’t golfed with God or Jack. But once I jumped ship in Hong Kong and I make my way over to Tibet, and I get on as a looper at a course over in the Himalayas. A looper, you know, a caddy, a looper, a jock. So, I tell them I’m a pro jock, and who do you think they give me? The Dalai Lama, himself. Twelfth son of the Lama. The flowing robes, the grace, bald… striking. So, I’m on the first tee with him. I give him the driver. He hauls off and whacks one – big hitter, the Lama – long, into a ten-thousand foot crevasse, right at the base of this glacier. Do you know what the Lama says? Gunga galunga… gunga, gunga-lagunga. So we finish the eighteenth and he’s gonna stiff me. And I say, “Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know.” And he says, “Oh, uh, there won’t be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness.” So I got that goin’ for me, which is nice.

:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow:

Like Clapton, Carl Spackler is God...

[Incoblack1]

After the rain, I took a little cart ride this evening and drove past two Executive courses. Both courses were closed, with a "Course Closed" sign on their windows and another sign that read, "Cart Paths Only."

There was a two some who had just teed off on the first hole, at one course, and on the other course there was a foursome in play around the third hole who drove on the fairway. Then, a 3some pulled up to play, without stopping at the starter's shack. I politely told them the course was closed, but they ignored me, and went to the first hole and teed off.

What really annoyed me though were the people who drove on the fairway, after all the rain we just had. The old, Starter/Ranger in me wanted to drive up to them, and read them the riot act.

There are 3 kinds of people in the world. Those who always try and follow the rules. Those that rarely follow the rules believing that they can make better rules. Those who only follow the rules when somebody's watching. We need more of the first kind and less of the last two!

[CSB1228]

Community Watch. Call them. 753-0550

[Skunky1]

Call 911.

[golfing eagles]

Call 911.

I hope you weren't being serious. Because I'm not sure what is worse: Selfish, entitled people flaunting the rules and doing whatever they please, or clogging up an emergency 911 number with this nonsense.

[JoeinFL]

all I can say is:

89920

Thanks. I thought it was just me. Lol

[Dantes]

They must be from Portland

[richs631]

Honestly who cares? It’s not a big deal. It’s part of what they pay for in their amenities. I don’t agree with driving on the fairways when wet, but if people are on the cart path and playing and still have daylight I see no problem. The people out here that are over reacting to this are probably folks that still have masks on! Lighten up people!

Bravo, my thoughts exactly. I personally don’t do it but folks just need to lighten up and enjoy life

[richs631]

Really. So if you were driving down your street and saw some kids with a can of spray paint putting graffiti on a neighbor's house you would "mind your own business"? I'm glad you're not my neighbor.

How in the world do you equivocate spray painting a house to playing golf when the course is closed

[golfing eagles]

Bravo, my thoughts exactly. I personally don’t do it but folks just need to lighten up and enjoy life

Again, the topic is not playing after hours when the course has been open. There is a mechanism that allows for that. The discussion is about people playing on a CLOSED course. And I don't understand why it required this many posts---it's simple----CLOSED MEANS CLOSED. No exceptions. No deciding for yourself if it is playable. No walking your dog, riding your bike or walking the paths. Just follow the rules and STAY OUT. For all you know a sinkhole opened up, or a hole was dug and not yet marked, or toxic chemicals were applied, etc. Again, it is not up to YOU to decide when the course is CLOSED

[golfing eagles]

How in the world do you equivocate spray painting a house to playing golf when the course is closed

Both equal trespassing
Both can cause damage

How do YOU NOT see it??????

Besides, the context was in regard to ignoring blatant trespassing and "minding your own business". Don't cherry pick

[Girlcopper]

Who cares ! Don't you have more important things to worry about ?
I was thinking the same thing. OP knows exactly what hole they were at, watched them drive past the shack, drive on the greens etc. Obviously needs to join a few clubs or something to occupy their time so they wont be tailing people around. Condos call that type “condo commandos”

[mrrmauu]

My husband is from Allentown. We sure miss those steak sandwiches.

The Brass Rail!!!!!

[stanley]

Entitled and priviledged. There are quite a few here on this forum that think that's OK.


Jeez......There's quite a few more here than I thought

[Windguy]

Course Closed - probably not for the rain but because it was that course’s maintenance day.

My group was scheduled to play when rain was predicted. I chose to stay home and two decided to play. The downpour hit when they were on the fourth green at Palmetto. They waited for the rain to die down momentarily and then finished the hole despite the green being drenched. They got a text or call from the starter shack telling them to get off the course. They did.

It was most certainly because of the rain and the possibility of damaging the course.

[Billy1]

People have always practiced on golf courses after hours, Pros that grew up on golf courses tell stories of playing after hours.

[dewilson58]

They got a text or call from the starter shack telling them to get off the course.

Hmmmmm. How did the starter know their number??

[Goodi70]

This person said he/she was driving "past" the exec courses - never said they were on the c ourse

[Windguy]

How in the world do you equivocate spray painting a house to playing golf when the course is closed

Just a guess, but I think it would be cheaper to remove a tag from a building than to repair a bunch of footprints on the green and deep ruts in the fairways.

[JMintzer]

Hmmmmm. How did the starter know their number??

Probably is linked to your Villages ID...

[Windguy]

Hmmmmm. How did the starter know their number??

Are you just curious or accusing me of lying?

Maybe because it’s in the database? Just like the Community Watch knows what number to call when you leave your garage door open at night.

[Windguy]

People have always practiced on golf courses after hours, Pros that grew up on golf courses tell stories of playing after hours.
This wasn’t after hours. It was after the rain stopped. The courses were closed due to wet conditions.

[Debbraham]

Not sure what the difference in this and when on holidays when the course is closed the villages says you can play on the courses. Just need to respect the course and not damage the fairways.

[Spalumbos62]

Not sure what the difference in this and when on holidays when the course is closed the villages says you can play on the courses. Just need to respect the course and not damage the fairways.


I have read all of these posts and everyone is extremely passionate about their answer...but everyone has a different answer. There must be a golf Bible somewhere, or is it like football where the rules change yearly.

[Topspinmo]

There no local police 👮*♂️. Only sheriff and I sure that’s high in priority of calls list.

[Topspinmo]

I have read all of these posts and everyone is extremely passionate about their answer...but everyone has a different answer. There must be a golf Bible somewhere, or is it like football where the rules change yearly.

Yes, it called a mulligan.

[golfing eagles]

People have always practiced on golf courses after hours, Pros that grew up on golf courses tell stories of playing after hours.

I don't know what the rules were at the courses those pros played, but here in TV, closed means CLOSED

[photo1902]

There no local police ������*♂️. Only sheriff and I sure that’s high in priority of calls list.

You mean aside from Wildwood PD, Lady Lake PD, Fruitland Park PD :)

[easydog]

There is a difference between playing "after hours" and the "course closed".
The golf division realizes that folks play after hours, that is permitted and is allowed.
The course closed means that the course is undergoing additional/extra procedures...
No one should be on the course if it is "closed".
The golf courses are NOT public property .... but taking care of the courses is critical to maintaining them in the condition expected .... paying an amenity fee does not give anyone the right to violate the rules.

[Bogie Shooter]

They must be from Portland

Who is they?

[Bogie Shooter]

I have read all of these posts and everyone is extremely passionate about their answer...but everyone has a different answer. There must be a golf Bible somewhere, or is it like football where the rules change yearly.
Try this…..
Golf The Villages (http://Www.Golfthevillages.com)

[dewilson58]

There is a difference between playing "after hours" and the "course closed".

Aren't the courses closed after hours???


:popcorn:

[Velvet]

There is a difference between playing "after hours" and the "course closed".
The golf division realizes that folks play after hours, that is permitted and is allowed.
The course closed means that the course is undergoing additional/extra procedures...
No one should be on the course if it is "closed".
The golf courses are NOT public property .... but taking care of the courses is critical to maintaining them in the condition expected .... paying an amenity fee does not give anyone the right to violate the rules.

That is exactly what I meant when I said it is our business. It is in everyone’s interest to keep the golf courses healthy and in good condition. If it is marked “closed” it needs to be obeyed. Paying amenities makes one tend to follow and expect others to as well, and not violate the rules.

[Topspinmo]

You mean aside from Wildwood PD, Lady Lake PD, Fruitland Park PD :)

Jurisdiction on city streets which most are in county? And I’m sure they would jump right on it on private property unless felony bing committed?

[Polar Bear]

There is a difference between playing "after hours" and the "course closed".
The golf division realizes that folks play after hours, that is permitted and is allowed.
The course closed means that the course is undergoing additional/extra procedures...
No one should be on the course if it is "closed"…
Aren't the courses closed after hours???…
If you mean after the starter shacks close…no, they are not. Easydog is correct.

[bilcon]

I can totally understand wanting to walk on the golf cart path when the course is closed, just for the sake of enjoying the walk.

But the course is closed. That means - no golfing. No driving your cart, no playing. Closed. They're probably closed because they need to do various landscaping things with the grass. That requires that people NOT use it for awhile.

People complain when a course is in bad shape. Well how about - stop using it when it's closed, and give the groundskeepers a chance to get it into good shape. Or, keep it in lousy shape and stop complaining about it.

The same thing about people who think "well I have to pay a trail fee even if I'm a passenger, so I should get my own cart and drive alone" - well sure. But if everyone thought that way, there'd be a lot more problems with the courses, and they'd be whining even more about it.

I was absolutely positive that this older generation (those people in their 70's and 80's) are the ones who taught MY generation to do the right thing, simply because it was the right thing to do. Maybe they've forgotten in their old age.

If the course if open or closed, you don't walk on the course. Trespassing. I live on a course and lately I have seen people walking on the closed course. That is my backyard. Stay out.

[JMintzer]

If the course if open or closed, you don't walk on the course. Trespassing. I live on a course and lately I have seen people walking on the closed course. That is my backyard. Stay out.

No, your backyard ends at your property line...

[stanley]

No, your backyard ends at your property line...

Which is usually the OB stakes

[JMintzer]

Which is usually the OB stakes

Right, so not where they're walking...

[Joe V.]

If the course if open or closed, you don't walk on the course. Trespassing. I live on a course and lately I have seen people walking on the closed course. That is my backyard. Stay out.

Your back yard? Check your site survey. It is not your back yard or anyone else's. You really are funny!

[dewilson58]

If you mean after the starter shacks close…no, they are not. Easydog is correct.

After hours is when the last paid golfer finishes.
After hours, the course IS CLOSED.

[Polar Bear]

After hours is when the last paid golfer finishes.
After hours, the course IS CLOSED.
Since you’re talking about paid golfers, you must be talking about champ courses. If you are, you can start play after hours without having paid. An ambassador will write you a ‘ticket’ and you pay the next day. If an ambassador doesn’t cross your path…which has never happened to me, they’re usually on the course if there is any daylight at all…you are simply on your honor to pay the next day.

I have checked with starters and pro shops more than once and they have verified that this method of late-day play is fine.

So the champ courses can be played as long as light allows by golfers following the rules.

[golfing eagles]

Since you’re talking about paid golfers, you must be talking about champ courses. If you are, you can start play after hours without having paid. An ambassador will write you a ‘ticket’ and you pay the next day. If an ambassador doesn’t cross your path…which has never happened to me, they’re usually on the course if there is any daylight at all…you are simply on your honor to pay the next day.

I have checked with starters and pro shops more than once and they have verified that this method of late-day play is fine.

So the champ courses can be played as long as light allows by golfers following the rules.

Yes, but not when the course is CLOSED, and certainly not by dog walkers, tourists, joy riders and anyone else who would be TRESPASSING.

[dewilson58]

Since you’re talking about paid golfers, you must be talking about champ courses. If you are, you can start play after hours without having paid. An ambassador will write you a ‘ticket’ and you pay the next day. If an ambassador doesn’t cross your path…which has never happened to me, they’re usually on the course if there is any daylight at all…you are simply on your honor to pay the next day.

I have checked with starters and pro shops more than once and they have verified that this method of late-day play is fine.

So the champ courses can be played as long as light allows by golfers following the rules.

Nope.
Call TV Golf Admin Office.
(I just talked to them)
After hours golf is not allowed is the policy.
If caught, yes you will get a "ticket".

:ho:

[Polar Bear]

Nope.
Call TV Golf Admin Office.
(I just talked to them)
After hours golf is not allowed is the policy.
If caught, yes you will get a "ticket".

:ho:
Heheh. I’ve been “caught” every time I’ve done it. The ambassador writes a “receipt” with a smile and wishes me well for the rest of my round. I pay my green fees at the pro shop the next day, where they also handle it routinely.

Go figure. :)

[stanley]

Heheh. I’ve been “caught” every time I’ve done it. The ambassador writes a “receipt” with a smile and wishes me well for the rest of my round. I pay my green fees at the pro shop the next day, where they also handle it routinely.

Go figure. :)

I've written quite a few, but I dare not say in what "season" more than any other

[dewilson58]

I've written quite a few, but I dare not say in what "season" more than any other

Baseball season??

[phousel]

The Brass Rail!!!!!

My old neighborhood.

[MercerLunatic]

Just so you are aware during summer hours you can play a reduced rate late and play. The starter shack is closed and the ambassador is gone. You can play as many holes as you can before dark. Driving on the fairway is not right if it is cart path only, unless the person has a handicap pass.

If it is posted "Cart Path Only" the handicap pass people cannot drive on the fairway either. Follow the rules, have fun and do not disrespect those rules, they are for everyone-no exceptions. Closed is closed!