A Warning

[Pegamyheart]

Heads up to those having driveway work done. We hired Trish Karz and crew at Cost Less Driveway Designs out of Summerfield. We were taken by her personality and artwork. After a day, the crew of 1 disappeared. Trish, known for her artwork showed up only for a couple hours a day, when she showed. Always had a meaningful excuse. Project dragged on for weeks before we cut our losses. Along the way, she also complained about other angry and frustrated clients. She clearly has many troubles. Presents well, but is not to be believed. I see now her good references ended in 2019. We will have to grind down and start over I think unless we can find someone to repair and finish.

[retiredguy123]

Did you pay any money? If not, she probably would have completed the work and much faster.

[Two Bills]

Did you pay any money? If not, she probably would have completed the work and much faster.

Lets hope the OP never parted with a penny.
Never pay up front for building work.
Agreed stages? Yes.

[Pegamyheart]

Yes, I did pay her a deposit of half to pay for materials. She would not start without it. My mistake I guess. Does anyone repair and complete drives?

[retiredguy123]

Yes, I did pay her a deposit of half to pay for materials. She would not start without it. My mistake I guess. Does anyone repair and complete drives?
Maybe she wouldn't start without a deposit, but a reputable contractor would. I would never pay a deposit in advance. But, if I did, it would only be for custom materials, and charged to a credit card that I could dispute if the work was not performed.

[coralway]

Cost Less Driveway - now you know why

[villagetinker]

OP, file a complaint with Seniors Against Crime (part of the FL Attorney General), they have several offices in the villages, not sure if any or all of these are currently open, phone number: 352-750-1914 or 352-689-4600 ext 4606, also discuss a fraud report with the local police department.

[Girlcopper]

OP, file a complaint with Seniors Against Crime (part of the FL Attorney General), they have several offices in the villages, not sure if any or all of these are currently open, phone number: 352-750-1914 or 352-689-4600 ext 4606, also discuss a fraud report with the local police department.
Fraud? Very hard to prove!! Crime? Prove it!! This is a civil matter. Take it to court for a refund if its even worth the hassle. And again, buyer beware. More homework should have been done since roofing and driveways are the biggests problems with workers

[nick demis]

File a small claims suit. Let a judge decide. Small fee and just your time.

[noslices1]

Heads up to those having driveway work done. We hired Trish Karz and crew at Cost Less Driveway Designs out of Summerfield. We were taken by her personality and artwork. After a day, the crew of 1 disappeared. Trish, known for her artwork showed up only for a couple hours a day, when she showed. Always had a meaningful excuse. Project dragged on for weeks before we cut our losses. Along the way, she also complained about other angry and frustrated clients. She clearly has many troubles. Presents well, but is not to be believed. I see now her good references ended in 2019. We will have to grind down and start over I think unless we can find someone to repair and finish.
Lance Fanthorpe @ The Concrete Doctor did a fantastic job on my driveway and sidewalk at a very reasonable price.

[bowlingal]

call Edison ConCreations...highly recommended by Talk of the Villages

[Up North]

Lance Fanthorpe @ The Concrete Doctor did a fantastic job on my driveway and sidewalk at a very reasonable price.
Do you have contact information for The Concrete Dr?

[mcwood4d]

call Edison ConCreations...highly recommended by Talk of the Villages
We loved the work done by Edison Concreations

[J1ceasar]

My rule if you can't afford to buy your materials , you aren't a good manager , I don't use u .

[Laurel Maryland]

I'm new to Florida. Is it legal for a contractor to request a 50% deposit in FL? In Maryland, they cannot, by law, request more than 1/3.

[gemini5001]

Good work isn't cheap and cheap work isn't good !

[retiredguy123]

I'm new to Florida. Is it legal for a contractor to request a 50% deposit in FL? In Maryland, they cannot, by law, request more than 1/3.
Yes, it is legal in Florida. In Maryland, the contractor can only request a 1/3 deposit, but the homeowner doesn't need to pay it. But, even if you pay a deposit, the homeowner can require it to be paid with a credit card, where the charge can be disputed with the bank within 60 days of the statement date. Any reputable contractor should accept credit card payments. And, as long as you agree in writing that the materials will be delivered within 60 days of the credit card charge, the homeowner has no risk with the credit card payment. If the materials are delayed, you can cancel the credit card charge and issue a new charge.

[GOLFER54]

Never pay anyone in advance, i know at least half a dozen folks in the villages that have lost thousands by doing so.

[DAVES]

Fraud? Very hard to prove!! Crime? Prove it!! This is a civil matter. Take it to court for a refund if its even worth the hassle. And again, buyer beware. More homework should have been done since roofing and driveways are the biggests problems with workers

Take it to court in reality is an illusion. An Attorney will cost you like $300 an hour.
There is small claims court. In my life, I've done that twice, not in Florida. I won and collected both times. That is actually impressive. A large percentage of people that win in small claims court never collect. When, I did it, not in Florida it cost less than $20 to file the case. I've been corrected. In Florida it is far more expensive to file and the cost to file goes up with the amount of the case.

[DAVES]

Yes, I did pay her a deposit of half to pay for materials. She would not start without it. My mistake I guess. Does anyone repair and complete drives?

Sadly typical posts. Some people are so weak in ego that they need to berate others.
We are sooooooo lucky to live with people who have never made a mistake in their lives.

As far as legal. You may need legal advice. If, the materials are on your site, do you own them?

As far as credit cards. There is no shortage of partial and incorrect information. If, you dispute a charge on a credit card the credit card company will investigate. It is at best fuzzy. They will delay paying for I think it is 90 days. The person, company that billed you must agree to forfeit or reduce the charge. They do not simply say you are wrong and we are not paying.

[Neils]

Regarding cc disputes
The cc will investigate but if merchant/contractor claims they completed the agreement, the cc company will usually allow the payment and tell you that you have a right to take the merchant to court.

I guess the cc companies do not want to involved in potential lawsuits.

[Charlie'sDad]

Heads up to those having driveway work done. We hired Trish Karz and crew at Cost Less Driveway Designs out of Summerfield. We were taken by her personality and artwork. After a day, the crew of 1 disappeared. Trish, known for her artwork showed up only for a couple hours a day, when she showed. Always had a meaningful excuse. Project dragged on for weeks before we cut our losses. Along the way, she also complained about other angry and frustrated clients. She clearly has many troubles. Presents well, but is not to be believed. I see now her good references ended in 2019. We will have to grind down and start over I think unless we can find someone to repair and finish.


You should have contacted Decorative Concrete. We had a quote 3 yrs ago from another painter and it was about $1500 more because they had to grind off the old paint job that was done 15 years ago. Cliff Rider is an honest, polite guy and didn't ask for payment until the job was done.

[hav7979]

We used stone creations. They did our drive last spring and did a great job. Only took a couple of days and price was very reasonable.

[retiredguy123]

Regarding cc disputes
The cc will investigate but if merchant/contractor claims they completed the agreement, the cc company will usually allow the payment and tell you that you have a right to take the merchant to court.

I guess the cc companies do not want to involved in potential lawsuits.
That is not correct. When you dispute a credit card charge, the bank must immediately remove the charge and investigate the issue, and make a fair determination of whether the merchant complied with the transaction. This process is mandated by Federal law for banks that are regulated by the Government. In a case where materials were ordered and never delivered, the bank is not going to allow the merchant to keep the money. It is an open and shut case.

[waverly51]

Lance Fanthorpe @ The Concrete Doctor did a fantastic job on my driveway and sidewalk at a very reasonable price.

Do you have a phone number? Can’t find on internet

[Hiltongrizz11]

Clearly you don't know about lawsuits. You act as it's simple and easy and a guarantee. Number one proving it is difficult number two collecting on it is almost impossible. Good luck with that

[Pegamyheart]

Yes, I was a dufus, a rare occasion, because I practice due dilligence usually. We at the same time were selling our rental next door and I was really busy. Lesson learned to not let my guard down. Thanks for your response.

[Pegamyheart]

Definitely not cheap.

[Pegamyheart]

do you have a phone number? Can’t find on internet
603-673-1750

[Heyitsrick]

Maybe she wouldn't start without a deposit, but a reputable contractor would. I would never pay a deposit in advance. But, if I did, it would only be for custom materials, and charged to a credit card that I could dispute if the work was not performed.

I find comments like yours quite curious. What makes a consumer reputable, vs. a contractor being reputable? Why should I - as a contractor - put up potentially thousands of dollars in materials needed for a job in the hopes that my "reputable" customer is going to come through at job's end with the agreed upon costs of the job? Some consumers might just be well-versed in the fine art of being a b@llbuster, finding nit-picky reasons to decline paying for a contractor's job just to get a cheaper price in the end. Ah, just the costs of doing business, right?

I'm not a contractor, by the way. But where I come from, everyone's got to have skin in the game. That means you (and I) put up money in advance for, say, half of the job's cost, and the contractor doesn't get paid in full until the job is completed in an agreed upon manner.

There are risks on both ends of the deal, not just on one side. That's fair. What are the consequences of a contractor not following through? There are legal and social media repercussions. Does anyone think "Trish" is going to benefit from the OP's post here on what happened? I don't. Can the OP also file legal complaints? Absolutely.

As far as the customer is concerned, due diligence is a must. Sure, anyone can have a bad experience even when local reviews/ratings on a contractor's work are great. But for the most part, these reviews should normally be prologue on what to expect in the end. Don't use a contractor for personality reasons. Find out in advance who they've done work for, and see if you can contact the people who had the work done.

[Klangpga]

Can be frustrating but worth the wait! Her artwork is amazing!

[Dee Smith]

A deposit may be the norm. I did with premier surfaces of central Florida. Has anyone worked with them? They may also be able to help you.

[NoMoSno]

I find comments like yours quite curious. What makes a consumer reputable, vs. a contractor being reputable? Why should I - as a contractor - put up potentially thousands of dollars in materials needed for a job in the hopes that my "reputable" customer is going to come through at job's end with the agreed upon costs of the job? Some consumers might just be well-versed in the fine art of being a b@llbuster, finding nit-picky reasons to decline paying for a contractor's job just to get a cheaper price in the end. Ah, just the costs of doing business, right?

I'm not a contractor, by the way. But where I come from, everyone's got to have skin in the game. That means you (and I) put up money in advance for, say, half of the job's cost, and the contractor doesn't get paid in full until the job is completed in an agreed upon manner.

There are risks on both ends of the deal, not just on one side. That's fair. What are the consequences of a contractor not following through? There are legal and social media repercussions. Does anyone think "Trish" is going to benefit from the OP's post here on what happened? I don't. Can the OP also file legal complaints? Absolutely.

As far as the customer is concerned, due diligence is a must. Sure, anyone can have a bad experience even when local reviews/ratings on a contractor's work are great. But for the most part, these reviews should normally be prologue on what to expect in the end. Don't use a contractor for personality reasons. Find out in advance who they've done work for, and see if you can contact the people who had the work done.
We are discussing a driveway paint job, not a home remodel.
Materials are only paint. Half down deposit for this job is rediculous.
A reputable painting contractor will have 30 day credit with their supplier. Get the job done on time, everyone gets paid.

[retiredguy123]

I find comments like yours quite curious. What makes a consumer reputable, vs. a contractor being reputable? Why should I - as a contractor - put up potentially thousands of dollars in materials needed for a job in the hopes that my "reputable" customer is going to come through at job's end with the agreed upon costs of the job? Some consumers might just be well-versed in the fine art of being a b@llbuster, finding nit-picky reasons to decline paying for a contractor's job just to get a cheaper price in the end. Ah, just the costs of doing business, right?

I'm not a contractor, by the way. But where I come from, everyone's got to have skin in the game. That means you (and I) put up money in advance for, say, half of the job's cost, and the contractor doesn't get paid in full until the job is completed in an agreed upon manner.

There are risks on both ends of the deal, not just on one side. That's fair. What are the consequences of a contractor not following through? There are legal and social media repercussions. Does anyone think "Trish" is going to benefit from the OP's post here on what happened? I don't. Can the OP also file legal complaints? Absolutely.

As far as the customer is concerned, due diligence is a must. Sure, anyone can have a bad experience even when local reviews/ratings on a contractor's work are great. But for the most part, these reviews should normally be prologue on what to expect in the end. Don't use a contractor for personality reasons. Find out in advance who they've done work for, and see if you can contact the people who had the work done.
I would just mention a few things. When doing work on a house, the contractor can file a lien against the house for non-payment. The homeowner cannot put a lien against the contractor. The contractor can also sue the homeowner because he knows who they are and where they live. The homeowner usually only knows they did business with a guy in a truck, and may not be able to sue anyone. But, more importantly, there are many contractors who will perform work before being paid, so why hire a contractor who won't? Why take the risk? One way to handle payments is to agree to make progress payments for work completed. But, paying a contractor when he hasn't done any work is a bad idea. Also, the contractor is in business to make a profit, and therefore, should expect to assume some risk. The homeowner and the contractor are not partners. My opinion.

[retiredguy123]

A deposit may be the norm. I did with premier surfaces of central Florida. Has anyone worked with them? They may also be able to help you.
A deposit is definitely not the norm.

[gbs317]

Yes, I did pay her a deposit of half to pay for materials. She would not start without it. My mistake I guess. Does anyone repair and complete drives?

Edison Concreations
Excellent work, does grinding and painting and pay when job is complete. I have been using him for painting driveway, garage, patio, etc… for three years now and have no complaints. +1 (352) 406-8775

[riley2011]

Did you pay any money? If not, she probably would have completed the work and much faster.

Don’t pay until the work is complete.

[wiltma]

Heads up to those having driveway work done. We hired Trish Karz and crew at Cost Less Driveway Designs out of Summerfield. We were taken by her personality and artwork. After a day, the crew of 1 disappeared. Trish, known for her artwork showed up only for a couple hours a day, when she showed. Always had a meaningful excuse. Project


dragged on for weeks before we cut our losses. Along the way, she also complained about other angry and frustrated clients. She clearly has many troubles. Presents well, but is not to be believed. I see now her good references ended in 2019. We will have to grind down and start over I think unless we can find someone to repair and finish.

Sorry to hear that you also were taken by cost less driveways and Trish. We waited over a year for her to come back and redo our side yard concrete work. She never showed and we finally sold the house so we obviously are done waiting. Do not wait on her, she is notorious for saying she’ll come but doesn’t and doesn’t even call. Suggest you put in a bad rating from her wherever you can as wIll we. I thought she was out of business, so I’m sorry to hear she is still screwing people around.

[THUNDERCHIEF]

That makes no sense at all- when the job is done you pay the bill

[Rodneysblue]

Do you have pictures of what was done? Can you share them with us?

[davefin]

Had my driveway done several years ago by the owner of the business Trish Karz bought the business from. Trish was the artist for specialty art work. I was VERY satisfied with the finished product. Unfortunately the artwork deteriorated badly and Trish was available to touch it up. Since then, Trish took over ownership of the whole driveway painting business and was very unreliable in responding to my many, many communications to her that I needed another touch up as the artwork fell apart badly. Trish is by far one of the best artists I have come across, but, very unreliable. In my opinion, she is way over her head with the driveway business. After more than 18 months of trying to get this touchup done, I finally gave up. It really looks bad on my driveway. BUT, all in all, if she came by today to touch this up I would pay her to do it without hesitation. But, I would not hold my breath. Sorry Trish!

[HORNET]

Edison did our driveway and was fantastic

[kathy1516]

Heads up to those having driveway work done. We hired Trish Karz and crew at Cost Less Driveway Designs out of Summerfield. We were taken by her personality and artwork. After a day, the crew of 1 disappeared. Trish, known for her artwork showed up only for a couple hours a day, when she showed. Always had a meaningful excuse. Project dragged on for weeks before we cut our losses. Along the way, she also complained about other angry and frustrated clients. She clearly has many troubles. Presents well, but is not to be believed. I see now her good references ended in 2019. We will have to grind down and start over I think unless we can find someone to repair and finish.
Absolutely file a complaint with Seniors vs Crime. They helped me to get these crooks I hired to finish the paver job I hired them to do. Seniors vs Crime keeps a file on these crooks and they don’t like it. There are many crooks here and many of us have had issues with them. You’re not alone.

[Hifred]

Might want to report her to seniors against crimes.

[Pegamyheart]

I do not know how to upload photos to here from my Samsung Android. How do I do that?

[Pegamyheart]

Couldn't figure out how to send photos. Thanks everyone for your help and suggestions.

[Missouri boy]

BEWARE. Trish Karz. She is a con. She loves to take money from seniors and then never shows up, or answer the phone.


Heads up to those having driveway work done. We hired Trish Karz and crew at Cost Less Driveway Designs out of Summerfield. We were taken by her personality and artwork. After a day, the crew of 1 disappeared. Trish, known for her artwork showed up only for a couple hours a day, when she showed. Always had a meaningful excuse. Project dragged on for weeks before we cut our losses. Along the way, she also complained about other angry and frustrated clients. She clearly has many troubles. Presents well, but is not to be believed. I see now her good references ended in 2019. We will have to grind down and start over I think unless we can find someone to repair and finish.