Blinking Left Yellow Arrow - What to do?????

[Northerner52]

Recently had to beep at 3 cars in 2 days that were stopped at a blinking left arrow with no cars coming in the opposite direction. Funny, one of them took right on red and didn't stop before taking the turn.

It means proceed with caution!

[RICH1]

Increase your horn speed!

[Topspinmo]

Recently had to beep at 3 cars in 2 days that were stopped at a blinking left arrow with no cars coming in the opposite direction. Funny, one of them took right on red and didn't stop before taking the turn.

It means proceed with caution!

You will also find they run stops signs and stop at yield signs.

[njbchbum]

Recently had to beep at 3 cars in 2 days that were stopped at a blinking left arrow with no cars coming in the opposite direction. Funny, one of them took right on red and didn't stop before taking the turn.

It means proceed with caution!

You "had to beep" rather than exercise some patience? Sheesh!

[nick demis]

You "had to beep" rather than exercise some patience? Sheesh!

And why should they have to wait?
Maybe drivers should learn the rules of the road and not expect the world to turn around them.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Had another near-miss at the Morse/Paige/Camino Real roundabout. In my golf cart, using the path that circles outside the circle perimeter. I was coming from the medical center campus parking lot toward St. Tim's. I crossed El Camino Real without any problem at all. Got to the Morse gate on the second leg of the circle and stopped to let the cars on the roundabout take their exits. Someone on the outside lane, heading for the gate, STOPPED in the roundabout and tried to wave me on, while someone on the inside lane of the roundabout was taking their "second or third" exit to the gate as well.

Obviously, I knew it would've been a stupid thing to do, plus the person who STOPPED in the roundabout needed to not stop so I waved him on and remained in place at my stop sign. Meanwhile, there were three cars coming up behind that stopped person, and one of them started beeping.

This guy who was stopped in the roundabout trying to wave me on was blocking traffic. He started to go again, JUST as the guy behind him pulled around and tried to get in front of him.

SO glad I just stayed where I was. Let the pile-up happen, as long as I know I'm doing the right thing and out of everyone's way.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Florida Statute 316.271 (3) reads: "The driver of a motor vehicle shall, when reasonably necessary to ensure safe operation, give audible warning with his or her horn, but shall not otherwise use such horn when upon a highway."

[bob47]

Had another near-miss at the Morse/Paige/Camino Real roundabout. In my golf cart, using the path that circles outside the circle perimeter. I was coming from the medical center campus parking lot toward St. Tim's. I crossed El Camino Real without any problem at all. Got to the Morse gate on the second leg of the circle and stopped to let the cars on the roundabout take their exits. Someone on the outside lane, heading for the gate, STOPPED in the roundabout and tried to wave me on, while someone on the inside lane of the roundabout was taking their "second or third" exit to the gate as well.

Obviously, I knew it would've been a stupid thing to do, plus the person who STOPPED in the roundabout needed to not stop so I waved him on and remained in place at my stop sign. Meanwhile, there were three cars coming up behind that stopped person, and one of them started beeping.

This guy who was stopped in the roundabout trying to wave me on was blocking traffic. He started to go again, JUST as the guy behind him pulled around and tried to get in front of him.

SO glad I just stayed where I was. Let the pile-up happen, as long as I know I'm doing the right thing and out of everyone's way.

That's a particularly dangerous roundabout for a golf cart. Lots of traffic. Lots of layers of traffic. And the physical design requires a golf cart driver to look way past 90 degrees left, closer to 180 degrees left, to see approaching cars in the roundabout. Twisting around that far left is not so easy for some older folks.

[retiredguy123]

Florida Statute 316.271 (3) reads: "The driver of a motor vehicle shall, when reasonably necessary to ensure safe operation, give audible warning with his or her horn, but shall not otherwise use such horn when upon a highway."
Lol. When I lived in Saudi Arabia, that law would have been fun to enforce.

[VApeople]

Recently had to beep at 3 cars in 2 days that were stopped at a blinking left arrow with no cars coming in the opposite direction.

That may have been me in front of you. I refuse to turn left on a yellow blinking left arrow.

Until we moved here 5 years ago, I had never seen the yellow blinking left arrow when the main traffic light in red.

When the main traffic light in my direction is red, my instincts tell me that the light for the cross traffic must be green, so I am not going to pull out into the intersection. I will wait until I get a green left turn arrow.

[villagetinker]

Despite what a lot of people think, you are NOT required to turn left on a blinking yellow arrow, you are ALLOWED to turn left IF there is sufficient space. I have sat back at the crosswalk line in the left turn because there was an SUV or truck in the opposing left turn lane BLOCKING my view, and I will not pull into an intersection unless I know it is CLEAR. Sorry if I annoy you, color me NO accidents in almost 55 years of driving!

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

That's a particularly dangerous roundabout for a golf cart. Lots of traffic. Lots of layers of traffic. And the physical design requires a golf cart driver to look way past 90 degrees left, closer to 180 degrees left, to see approaching cars in the roundabout. Twisting around that far left is not so easy for some older folks.

It doesn't matter. It's my responsibility as the one in the golf cart to stop. It's your responsibility as the car-driver in the roundabout to go.

If you don't go, you'll mess up the entire system.

So go. Don't worry about me. I'm doing my job. You do yours.

[Northerner52]

I waited too long on one and they made the light and
I didn't.

You "had to beep" rather than exercise some patience? Sheesh!

[Northerner52]

Of course you have to be able to see if cars and coming that why its yellow (caution) vs. green.

Despite what a lot of people think, you are NOT required to turn left on a blinking yellow arrow, you are ALLOWED to turn left IF there is sufficient space. I have sat back at the crosswalk line in the left turn because there was an SUV or truck in the opposing left turn lane BLOCKING my view, and I will not pull into an intersection unless I know it is CLEAR. Sorry if I annoy you, color me NO accidents in almost 55 years of driving!

[Northerner52]

I wonder if you can be ticketed for that.


That may have been me in front of you. I refuse to turn left on a yellow blinking left arrow.

Until we moved here 5 years ago, I had never seen the yellow blinking left arrow when the main traffic light in red.

When the main traffic light in my direction is red, my instincts tell me that the light for the cross traffic must be green, so I am not going to pull out into the intersection. I will wait until I get a green left turn arrow.

[VApeople]

I wonder if you can be ticketed for that.

I guess I will find out.

[Northerner52]

From Sumter County Police

[bagboy]

I thought this thread was about a left turn arrow going from green to flashing yellow....

[DAVES]

I waited too long on one and they made the light and
I didn't.

So many things just do not matter.

[DAVES]

You "had to beep" rather than exercise some patience? Sheesh!

Reminds me of many years ago. I was lost in my air cooled VW. You need to picture the engine sound and the sound of the horn in an air cooled VW. Some dude with his engine big enough for a truck decided to lean on his horn. The guy was so out of control of himself that he turned completely around in his seat to give me the foul gesture. He was so out of control that he did not see the turn in the road. As I passed his car leaking from his smashed up engine. I could not help tooting my VW horn as I drove past him.

[Topspinmo]

Had another near-miss at the Morse/Paige/Camino Real roundabout. In my golf cart, using the path that circles outside the circle perimeter. I was coming from the medical center campus parking lot toward St. Tim's. I crossed El Camino Real without any problem at all. Got to the Morse gate on the second leg of the circle and stopped to let the cars on the roundabout take their exits. Someone on the outside lane, heading for the gate, STOPPED in the roundabout and tried to wave me on, while someone on the inside lane of the roundabout was taking their "second or third" exit to the gate as well.

Obviously, I knew it would've been a stupid thing to do, plus the person who STOPPED in the roundabout needed to not stop so I waved him on and remained in place at my stop sign. Meanwhile, there were three cars coming up behind that stopped person, and one of them started beeping.

This guy who was stopped in the roundabout trying to wave me on was blocking traffic. He started to go again, JUST as the guy behind him pulled around and tried to get in front of him.

SO glad I just stayed where I was. Let the pile-up happen, as long as I know I'm doing the right thing and out of everyone's way.

Too many go through visitors gate and block traffic in the roundabout. what’s so hard pushing red button in residents lane? I guess there too lazy to roll down window and reach out. That’s one of the most safu intersections in villages.

[Topspinmo]

Reminds me of many years ago. I was lost in my air cooled VW. You need to picture the engine sound and the sound of the horn in an air cooled VW. Some dude with his engine big enough for a truck decided to lean on his horn. The guy was so out of control of himself that he turned completely around in his seat to give me the foul gesture. He was so out of control that he did not see the turn in the road. As I passed his car leaking from his smashed up engine. I could not help tooting my VW horn as I drove past him.

Whe I was teenager VW bugs was dime dozen. I wish I had brought 10 of them along with tri-five Chevy’s for 100 bucks or less.

[Topspinmo]

I thought this thread was about a left turn arrow going from green to flashing yellow....

Why would it be any different than any other thread?

[Topspinmo]

From Sumter County Police

So, basically if coast is clear you can proceed.

[Bilyclub]

From Sumter County Police

Nothing about non functioning traffic signals in this thread.

[VApeople]

I thought this thread was about a left turn arrow going from green to flashing yellow....

I think this thread is about having a red light with a flashing yellow left turn light. That means it is OK to turn left if there is no oncoming traffic.

In my case, I do not turn left. I wait for a green light.

[Northerner52]

I asked Sumter Police about the the left blinking arrow and they posted this on their Facebook Page. I wish the public was reminded about various traffic laws and best practices

I thought this thread was about a left turn arrow going from green to flashing yellow....

[Skunky1]

It would be a $300 fine for the stop sign sliders (vehicles and Golf Carts) should law-enforcement get out of the parking lot!

[golfing eagles]

Nothing about non functioning traffic signals in this thread.

see post 17, bottom panel addresses no signal
Also , to all those who just want to sit there when they can go, see middle panel.

[J1ceasar]

I was told generally speaking when it's yellow you slow to 5 miles an hour or you stop depending on where you are. Yellow generally means to me also you proceed with caution when you can. But you have to remember your safety is in your literally in your own hands. As an example of that in Leesburg oh, there is a blinking yellow light down on Main Street where they're building a new hotel is a rehab for seniors. I have never seen anybody slow down to 5 miles an hour which is the law but they generally continue doing 45 miles an hour and in 20 years I've never seen police patrol that intersection

[Girlcopper]

That may have been me in front of you. I refuse to turn left on a yellow blinking left arrow.

Until we moved here 5 years ago, I had never seen the yellow blinking left arrow when the main traffic light in red.

When the main traffic light in my direction is red, my instincts tell me that the light for the cross traffic must be green, so I am not going to pull out into the intersection. I will wait until I get a green left turn arrow.
Then go to driving school and learn Fl laws. You dont belong on the road nor does Fl law say……..”do what you want”

[Fredman]

Then go to driving school and learn Fl laws. You dont belong on the road nor does Fl law say……..”do what you want”
I agree completely.

[golfing eagles]

I agree completely.

But you forgot to add "and don't come to a blinking yellow arrow in front of me":1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Billy1]

Had to beep????

[crash]

Recently had to beep at 3 cars in 2 days that were stopped at a blinking left arrow with no cars coming in the opposite direction. Funny, one of them took right on red and didn't stop before taking the turn.

It means proceed with caution!

What I did is honk then got the one finger salute. After the light turned red they turned and I had to wait for the next light.

[Hiltongrizz11]

So how long does one wait before it's not using patience? Do we wait and surrender the whole time frame to someone else or do you take initiative and therefore be labeled as inpatient? In my length of time down here I've learned sometimes if you don't take action you won't get anywhere

[Hiltongrizz11]

Then you are the problem. You're supposed to learn the traffic laws where you are not where you were.

That's an obligation and not a choice.

[Hiltongrizz11]

You're giving lessons about the wrong subject. This is about a blinking arrow. Well I guess we know who doesn't pay attention on the road cuz they don't pay attention here

[noslices1]

I think this thread is about having a red light with a flashing yellow left turn light. That means it is OK to turn left if there is no oncoming traffic.

In my case, I do not turn left. I wait for a green light.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a RED light with a flashing yellow left turn light. That would be silly and VERY dangerous. I see GREEN lights with flashing yellows all the time. If there is no oncoming traffic, you can and should make the turn.

[mydavid]

That may have been me in front of you. I refuse to turn left on a yellow blinking left arrow.

Until we moved here 5 years ago, I had never seen the yellow blinking left arrow when the main traffic light in red.

When the main traffic light in my direction is red, my instincts tell me that the light for the cross traffic must be green, so I am not going to pull out into the intersection. I will wait until I get a green left turn arrow. All that left blinking yellow arrow means, you can still turn left if their is no oncoming traffic. :welcome:

[fastboat]

You will encounter far worse from drivers in The Villages, especially at the roundabouts.

[Guitarman1951]

That may have been me in front of you. I refuse to turn left on a yellow blinking left arrow.

Until we moved here 5 years ago, I had never seen the yellow blinking left arrow when the main traffic light in red.

When the main traffic light in my direction is red, my instincts tell me that the light for the cross traffic must be green, so I am not going to pull out into the intersection. I will wait until I get a green left turn arrow.
When the yellow left turn light is on, there absolutely can not be a green light for cross traffic. The light is there to help left turning traffic move along when there is sparse, or no, traffic coming from the opposite direction. You will be, in fact, a traffic hazard if drivers behind you get frustrated with your lack of consideration/knowledge, and try to go around you. Do us all a favor and don't be a traffic hazard.

[DaleDivine]

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a RED light with a flashing yellow left turn light. That would be silly and VERY dangerous. I see GREEN lights with flashing yellows all the time. If there is no oncoming traffic, you can and should make the turn.

When you're on Morse and turning left onto 44, the straight traffic light is red and left turn is blinking yellow just before it turns to green for straight thru traffic..
:ho:

[Joe C.]

Patience ??? Never accept substandard performance......no matter where it occurs. Those who do, are contributing to the incremental downfall of the good ole U.S.A.

[sail33or]

I also HATE to turn left "IN A MAJOR INTERSECTION" with a blinking yellow light. Once you pull out, there is no turning back and you have 3 lanes possibly coming at you all staggered. It is too hard and dangerous to try and time it. Rarely is there absolutely zero cars in a 3 lane intersection.

Now if you honk your horn at me, I will purposely make you miss the next green light because my engine will somehow stall. Learn from this.

[jjombrello]

You should go to the AARP driving school and learn the Florida driving laws. Cost? $15.00. Florida law allows left turns on a blinking yellow light as long as there is no on-coming traffic. Helps move things along and is completely safe when done correctly.

[Mlogan22@tampabay.rr.com]

That’s rude

[Daddymac]

That may have been me in front of you. I refuse to turn left on a yellow blinking left arrow.

Until we moved here 5 years ago, I had never seen the yellow blinking left arrow when the main traffic light in red.

When the main traffic light in my direction is red, my instincts tell me that the light for the cross traffic must be green, so I am not going to pull out into the intersection. I will wait until I get a green left turn arrow.

HMMMMM...... Do You Make A Right On Red ? Or Wait ??

[Lancer]

From Sumter County Police

How many people treat a non-functioning light as a four way stop.

[GPGuar]

I also HATE to turn left "IN A MAJOR INTERSECTION" with a blinking yellow light. Once you pull out, there is no turning back and you have 3 lanes possibly coming at you all staggered. It is too hard and dangerous to try and time it. Rarely is there absolutely zero cars in a 3 lane intersection.

Now if you honk your horn at me, I will purposely make you miss the next green light because my engine will somehow stall. Learn from this.
Great way to start a road rage incident!

[VApeople]

That may have been me in front of you. I refuse to turn left on a yellow blinking left arrow.

HMMMMM...... Do You Make A Right On Red ? Or Wait ??

Sometimes I wait and sometimes I turn right on red. It all depends how I feel and if I can get a good view of the traffic.

For example, we often go south on Morse and turn right on 44 to go to Wildwood. If the light is red, we do not turn right. We wait until it turns green.

[golfing eagles]

Sometimes I wait and sometimes I turn right on red. It all depends how I feel and if I can get a good view of the traffic.

For example, we often go south on Morse and turn right on 44 to go to Wildwood. If the light is red, we do not turn right. We wait until it turns green.

Why?

[Number 10 GI]

Sometimes I wait and sometimes I turn right on red. It all depends how I feel and if I can get a good view of the traffic.

For example, we often go south on Morse and turn right on 44 to go to Wildwood. If the light is red, we do not turn right. We wait until it turns green.

Where do "feelings" fit into safe driving?
If you are that timid and unsure of your driving ability then you need to turn in your drivers license and make the roads safer. You obey the law and practice courtesy to other drivers. That road isn't there just for your use only.

[Pmarlow]

That may have been me in front of you. I refuse to turn left on a yellow blinking left arrow.

Until we moved here 5 years ago, I had never seen the yellow blinking left arrow when the main traffic light in red.

When the main traffic light in my direction is red, my instincts tell me that the light for the cross traffic must be green, so I am not going to pull out into the intersection. I will wait until I get a green left turn arrow.
You really should learn to drive. Yellow has never meant stop. It means proceed with caution. You should complete your turn if traffic conditions allow. If you don’t do this you should expect the drivers behind you to get irritated. It is your fault that they are irritated not theirs.

[Northerner52]

Page 29 of the Florida Drivers License Book. Over 100 pages. Says take a left turn with a blinking yellow arrow if there is no oncoming traffic: Florida DMV Handbook (FL Driver's Manual) 2021 (https://driving-tests.org/florida/fl-dmv-drivers-handbook-manual/)

[rogerk]

That may have been me in front of you. I refuse to turn left on a yellow blinking left arrow.

Until we moved here 5 years ago, I had never seen the yellow blinking left arrow when the main traffic light in red.

When the main traffic light in my direction is red, my instincts tell me that the light for the cross traffic must be green, so I am not going to pull out into the intersection. I will wait until I get a green left turn arrow.

Your instincts are wrong. It is okay to turn left on a flashing yellow light if no cars are coming. These are being intalloall over the country not just in The Villages and not just in Florida. See US Dept of Transportation.

[VApeople]

For example, we often go south on Morse and turn right on 44 to go to Wildwood. If the light is red, we do not turn right. We wait until it turns green.

Why?

We do not turn right on red at that intersection because we cannot see if there is traffic going west on 44.

When we are stopped in the right lane, there is usually someone in the left lane beside us and we can't see around them.

As you know, traffic moves pretty fast on 44, especially when Billy-Bob is heading home after work. We are perfectly happy to wait until we get a green light.

[CFrance]

1) It's not that hard, learn to drive

2) Try that on me (intentionally) and I'll make my standard offer---move your car or I'll move it for you
#2 My teenage son once did that...:)

[golfing eagles]

We do not turn right on red at that intersection because we cannot see if there is traffic going west on 44.

When we are stopped in the right lane, there is usually someone in the left lane beside us and we can't see around them.

As you know, traffic moves pretty fast on 44, especially when Billy-Bob is heading home after work. We are perfectly happy to wait until we get a green light.

If you can't see, you can't see, no point gambling. Usually if there is a car to my left blocking my vision, pulling up a few feet solves the problem. It might work for you.

[VApeople]

Usually if there is a car to my left blocking my vision, pulling up a few feet solves the problem. It might work for you.

We don't have a problem. We just wait until we get a green light.

[golfing eagles]

We don't have a problem. We just wait until we get a green light.

Just out of curiosity, when you do that, how many angry honking horns are blown at you, how many "one finger salutes" and more seriously, how many pull out from behind and try to turn in front of you? And just to be obtuse, what if the person behind you is trying to get a sick or injured 3 year old to urgent care?????
I'm not suggesting you do anything unsafe (ie: something most prudent drivers would NOT do), but there are rules of the road that allow a right turn there, so when any one individual makes up their own rule it messes up the "harmony" of traffic flow.

[JMintzer]

We do not turn right on red at that intersection because we cannot see if there is traffic going west on 44.

When we are stopped in the right lane, there is usually someone in the left lane beside us and we can't see around them.

As you know, traffic moves pretty fast on 44, especially when Billy-Bob is heading home after work. We are perfectly happy to wait until we get a green light.

"Billy-Bob"?

Nice that you have such distain for the folks outside the bubble...

You know, the one's who fix your sh!t...

[SacDQ]

Their is no known medical cure for overly cautious drivers. In some cases it become Critical. 😵

[VApeople]

We don't have a problem. We just wait until we get a green light.

Just out of curiosity, when you do that, how many angry honking horns are blown at you, how many "one finger salutes"?

None.

Since our car is pointed straight when we are stopped and we do not have a right turn signal on, no one knows we plan to turn right.

When the light turns green, we put on our right turn signal and turn right and head to Wildwood, oftentimes to visit our dear friend Billy-Bob.

[golfing eagles]

None.

Since our car is pointed straight when we are stopped and we do not have a right turn signal on, no one knows we plan to turn right.

When the light turns green, we put on our right turn signal and turn right and head to Wildwood, oftentimes to visit our dear friend Billy-Bob.

That's fine. But do you realize the LAW REQUIRES you to put your turn signal on 100 feet BEFORE your turn?

[VApeople]

Sometimes I wait and sometimes I turn right on red. It all depends how I feel and if I can get a good view of the traffic.


Where do "feelings" fit into safe driving?

My "feelings" have always guided me through life.

In the glorious 1960's, my Hippie friends and I lived by the motto, "If it feels good, do it".

I also follow the converse, "If it doesn't feel good, then don't do it."

Works for me.

[VApeople]

That's fine. But do you realize the LAW REQUIRES you to put your turn signal on 100 feet BEFORE your turn?

Yeah, I recall that from when I took my drivers test in South Florida in 1961. I just don't always do it.

[golfing eagles]

My "feelings" have always guided me through life.

In the glorious 1960's, my Hippie friends and I lived by the motto, "If it feels good, do it".

I also follow the converse, "If it doesn't feel good, then don't do it."

Works for me.

But does it work for everyone else on the road????
Like John Donne wrote, "No man is an Island"

Correct me if I'm wrong, but is sounds like, at least at Morse and 44, that you approach the intersection to make a right with absolutely no intention of turning right on red even if the road is clear for whatever reason you might have. Furthermore, it sounds like you intentionally conceal the fact that you are going to make a right by not putting your directional on until the light turns green and you are starting your turn, in violation of the traffic statutes. So in summary, it sounds like you are making up and adhering to your own laws, not those passed by our representatives and agreed upon by the voters. Do you think there might be a problem if everyone did that????

[VApeople]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but is sounds like, at least at Morse and 44, that you approach the intersection to make a right with absolutely no intention of turning right on red even if the road is clear for whatever reason you might have. Furthermore, it sounds like you intentionally conceal the fact that you are going to make a right by not putting your directional on until the light turns green and you are starting your turn, in violation of the traffic statutes. So in summary, it sounds like you are making up and adhering to your own laws, not those passed by our representatives and agreed upon by the voters.

You are correct.


Do you think there might be a problem if everyone did that????

No

[golfing eagles]

No

So, in your opinion, there is no problem with everyone picking and choosing what laws to follow and even making up their own????

OK, I'm going to make up my own speed limit on Pinellas Place at 90 mph. No problem according to you?

Or is it just you that can pick and choose which laws to follow? And is it based on "your feelings".

No offense, I'm just playing devil's advocate (as usual)