Trash,trash,trash

[Challenger]

Moved to the Villages 10 years ago . Tamarind Grove area. Many of our out of town visitors would comment on the cleanliness of TV. Now quite common to see trash thrown in the streets (not just 466&466A). Bottles , food wrappers , cans, trash bags, and other stuff. Why is this change occurring ,what can be done about it?

[MrFlorida]

Outsiders ? Down at the squares, I see cups and plastic water bottles laying about almost every day. It's worse on weekends.

[Mortal1]

It's happening because many people are pigs.

[Happinow]

It's happening because many people are pigs.
Finally someone telling it like it is. Is a me, me, me society and people don’t care that you have to look at their trash. We were in NC at a beach and a group of 4 packed up their belongings and left their trash behind on the beach….cans, wrappers, etc. When they left, we picked up their trash. It made me sad that they had no respect for the beautiful land they were using or for the people around them that had to look at the trash they left.

[DAVES]

Moved to the Villages 10 years ago . Tamarind Grove area. Many of our out of town visitors would comment on the cleanliness of TV. Now quite common to see trash thrown in the streets (not just 466&466A). Bottles , food wrappers , cans, trash bags, and other stuff. Why is this change occurring ,what can be done about it?

Far as cleanness I wonder if it is just more people picking up after the pigs.

I have proof that memory is not correct. I was sure streets were far cleaner when I was a kid. I knew we had them but I had never seen them. Sixteen mm movies of my family at a park-I was about 4-5. I had not seen them because we never had a 16mm projector. I had them transferred to DVD my parents, my relatives 65 years ago. As far as my memory, that the streets were far cleaner in the old days, you can see trash blowing on the streets.
As a kid, we were just blind to it.

[Topspinmo]

Moved to the Villages 10 years ago . Tamarind Grove area. Many of our out of town visitors would comment on the cleanliness of TV. Now quite common to see trash thrown in the streets (not just 466&466A). Bottles , food wrappers , cans, trash bags, and other stuff. Why is this change occurring ,what can be done about it?


More people more trash, sometimes it blows out of carts and trucks drivers unaware.

[davem4616]

More people more trash, sometimes it blows out of carts and trucks drivers unaware.

ditto...

IMHO I believe a lot of the trash we see on the roadways flew out of the back of a pickup bed or off a trailer

however you do see some drinking cups thrown way up on the grass along side of the roads...that was done on purpose by some slop

now, if you're talking about trash on a MM trail...that's different, that's just lazy, sloppy behavior by a few people that have been selfish all their lives and just don't care...a reflection upon their poor upbringing

[GrumpyOldMan]

I noticed a lot of younger people around for the past week or so. I expect most are here seeing parents or grandparents. I expect people that live here are less likely to toss trash on the ground. But, even among residents, I see it happening sometimes. Luckily the streets are cleaned occassionally.

[Road-Runner]

So after walking several of the walking/bike trails I've noticed a total lack of trash containers along the pathways. Has there ever been a suggestion to place covered garbage bins every so often on these trails? It might cut down on some of the garbage. Of course The Villages landscaping crews would also have to empty them so there would be a cost.

[GrumpyOldMan]

So after walking several of the walking/bike trails I've noticed a total lack of trash containers along the pathways. Has there ever been a suggestion to place covered garbage bins every so often on these trails? It might cut down on some of the garbage. Of course The Villages landscaping crews would also have to empty them so there would be a cost.

I don't know who is responsible for the MMs, I expect it is the district, and if so you could contact your district and suggest it. And yes, someone would have to pay for the cans, pay for the replacement cans, pay for the liners, pay for the pickup and disposal of the contents, etc. But, if enough people in a district want it, then it is a perfectly good solution.

[Bogie Shooter]

So after walking several of the walking/bike trails I've noticed a total lack of trash containers along the pathways. Has there ever been a suggestion to place covered garbage bins every so often on these trails? It might cut down on some of the garbage. Of course The Villages landscaping crews would also have to empty them so there would be a cost.
Carry your own stuff that becomes trash……..carry your own trash. No trash cans required.
Lazy people

[Bogie Shooter]

I don't know who is responsible for the MMs, I expect it is the district, and if so you could contact your district and suggest it. And yes, someone would have to pay for the cans, pay for the replacement cans, pay for the liners, pay for the pickup and disposal of the contents, etc. But, if enough people in a district want it, then it is a perfectly good solution.

Poor solution for lazy people!

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Moved to the Villages 10 years ago . Tamarind Grove area. Many of our out of town visitors would comment on the cleanliness of TV. Now quite common to see trash thrown in the streets (not just 466&466A). Bottles , food wrappers , cans, trash bags, and other stuff. Why is this change occurring ,what can be done about it?

Maybe their grandparents never taught their parents how to be parents to their children.

Maybe the kids are just rebels. Maybe they ARE the grandparents, and they're too senile to remember to take it out of their carts and bring it into the trash at home, so they just toss it because they know someone else will eventually deal with it anyway.

Maybe they're single men who are too drunk to notice. Maybe they're married women who are too in love to care.

Maybe it's the full moon.

Maybe there are just a lot more people, and therefore a lot more people who don't give littering a moment's thought. Just like there are ALSO a lot more people who DO care, and a lot more people who might care, but don't notice.

A lot more people = a lot more of a variety of personalities and behaviors. Sad but true. The more residents we have, the more likely we are to see more litter.

[DaleDivine]

I think a lot of the trash comes from the vendors that just don't care.
Not their hood so just throw it out.
:ohdear::ohdear:

[kidnerkim]

People need to be personally responsible. How many times do you see things fly out of golf carts because someone has not properly secured their items-cups, napkins, masks? Also prior to COVID I would take small bag with me. & pick up trash.

[Rwirish]

Too many people, more outsiders, fast food establishments popping up.

Getting more and more like a big city.

[thevillages2013]

Moved to the Villages 10 years ago . Tamarind Grove area. Many of our out of town visitors would comment on the cleanliness of TV. Now quite common to see trash thrown in the streets (not just 466&466A). Bottles , food wrappers , cans, trash bags, and other stuff. Why is this change occurring ,what can be done about it?
Several years ago there was a gentleman that walked Buena Vista and picked up trash. He did it daily and was in very good shape. Also a lady doing the same thing maybe three years ago on BV and Rec trail south of 466a. Looked like she did it for exercise and good deed. Who’s next?

[wganderson13]

Outsiders ? Down at the squares, I see cups and plastic water bottles laying about almost every day. It's worse on weekends.

It is worst. Moved here in 2014. People picked up after themselves when leaving the squares. Not now, they think they're royalty. See liquor bottles all over the place. Seen drivers intentionally run over turtles. What kind of society have we've become? America is in free fall. We're an over populated 3rd. world #%*? hole now. The schools don't teach morality, just blame.

[Girlcopper]

Moved to the Villages 10 years ago . Tamarind Grove area. Many of our out of town visitors would comment on the cleanliness of TV. Now quite common to see trash thrown in the streets (not just 466&466A). Bottles , food wrappers , cans, trash bags, and other stuff. Why is this change occurring ,what can be done about it?
What can be done is people can stop being ignorant slobs and pick up after themselves. If you want to live in a pig sty then stay in your own home and I can only imagine how filthy it is. How people act in public is just a reflection of their private life.

[Sandy and Ed]

Several years ago there was a gentleman that walked Buena Vista and picked up trash. He did it daily and was in very good shape. Also a lady doing the same thing maybe three years ago on BV and Rec trail south of 466a. Looked like she did it for exercise and good deed. Who’s next?
Before covid many (to include myself) would not hesitate to pick up a used cup or fast food bag left by another and properly dispose of it. During covid many folks were nervous to do so. I see masks all over the parking lots of Walmart, sams, Publix, etc. those businesses should be cleaning up their lots before it blows away. Why not tell the store manager that the lot is looking like a trash dump? Let the store manager know. Keep a plastic grocery bag in the car for trash and discard it daily. Those bags are free when you get you groceries. Why not use them? Why don’t we, as a community, simply say something when we see someone litter? All this talking about the problem doesn’t solve it. We probably all need to be a little more proactive

[thevillagernie]

M Morris replied once,if you see a piece of paper ,bend over and pick it up or I will pay someone to pick it up..!!! you will pay for it down the road.

[Coal Miner]

I see more and more cigarette butts thrown on the ground especially on golf courses

[GOLFER54]

Not everyone cares about their landscaping, their home, their appearance, the environment or care enough to throw garbage into the garbage pails. When I travel in my golf cart, I keep one of those grippers in it and when I see a bottle or can or some papers on the streets, I pick them up and throw them out at home.

[Joanne19335]

Maybe their grandparents never taught their parents how to be parents to their children.

Maybe the kids are just rebels. Maybe they ARE the grandparents, and they're too senile to remember to take it out of their carts and bring it into the trash at home, so they just toss it because they know someone else will eventually deal with it anyway.

Maybe they're single men who are too drunk to notice. Maybe they're married women who are too in love to care.

Maybe it's the full moon.

Maybe there are just a lot more people, and therefore a lot more people who don't give littering a moment's thought. Just like there are ALSO a lot more people who DO care, and a lot more people who might care, but don't notice.

A lot more people = a lot more of a variety of personalities and behaviors. Sad but true. The more residents we have, the more likely we are to see more litter.

I love you, OBB! Nailed it!

[GRACEALLEMAN]

Moved to the Villages 10 years ago . Tamarind Grove area. Many of our out of town visitors would comment on the cleanliness of TV. Now quite common to see trash thrown in the streets (not just 466&466A). Bottles , food wrappers , cans, trash bags, and other stuff. Why is this change occurring ,what can be done about it?


I don't see that much trash at all. You must be driving outside of Leesburg or somewhere I think the Village is just as clean as any place I've ever lived. Some people just like to complain

[NY2TV]

I always attributed the cleanliness to the TV staff picking up trash very quickly after it appears. I wonder if TV has fewer staff members now to do this clean up.

[Peggy Kalosky]

Pick it up when you see trash. I. Know it’s upsetting but I will stop and pick it up and discard it. We all need to pitch in. Don’t drive by and complain help😎

[Hackercraft]

Don’t just bitch about it, be like a Boy Scout and pick it up. Don’t wait for someone else to do it. Leave the place cleaner than you found it.

[Lynnesail]

Remember, people in the squares may not be Villages residents. They are open to the public from anywhere.

[024engine]

Same reason as I stated in a previous reply about snowbirds. They behave and act just like they did where they came from. Don't want to conform to rules or the law. JUST SAYING

[PleaseBeKind]

Right on, right on, right on. Best wishes

Pick it up when you see trash. I. Know it’s upsetting but I will stop and pick it up and discard it. We all need to pitch in. Don’t drive by and complain help😎

[Spalumbos62]

Same reason as I stated in a previous reply about snowbirds. They behave and act just like they did where they came from. Don't want to conform to rules or the law. JUST SAYING


I hope you mean winter renters...bc owners that spend the winter do not do that!

And btw, how do you know who left that garbage, could easily be miserable full timers....just saying

[Bogie Shooter]

Same reason as I stated in a previous reply about snowbirds. They behave and act just like they did where they came from. Don't want to conform to rules or the law. JUST SAYING

I hope you mean winter renters...bc owners that spend the winter do not do that!

And btw, how do you know who left that garbage, could easily be miserable full timers....just saying
Probably doesn’t know……so easy to blame others.

[kendi]

Haven’t seen it

[jimjamuser]

More people more trash, sometimes it blows out of carts and trucks drivers unaware.
I think that it is more than just that because Japan has greater population density than the Villages does, yet their streets are (I believe) cleaner.

[jimjamuser]

More people more trash, sometimes it blows out of carts and trucks drivers unaware.
I have MY hypothesis about why more trash is found on TV Land's streets than 10 or 15 years ago. TV residents of 15 years ago were mostly military enlisted men and wives and people with retirements brought about by UNIONS. They were UNION workers that were committed to the concept of WORKING. Both groups took PRIDE in doing things themselves and with their OWN hands. Most were NOT white-collar managers. So, they cut their OWN grass and hedges and planted and fertilized their own yards. That gave them pride and SATISFACTION. They had purchased their houses at VERY reasonable prices and were FRUGAL with their retirement money.

Today they have died and gone to the BIG Village in the sky. The newer residents pay more for their homes and are more likely to be management types, professionals, or office workers. White-collar types that dislike getting dirty and calloused hands. Unions are GONE for the most part. So, these management types are willing to pay to have ALL the WORK in the yard and house done by younger local workers that often do NOT take pride in their work. They are more interested in drinking after work than they are in clean streets in some RICHY, RICH people's neighborhoods. They DON'T live here so, can you blame them. They cut your grass and leave behind an endless supply of cigarette butts there - and water bottles in YOUR streets. On average, they come from poor, pathetic, trash-filled neighborhoods and you ENCOURAGE them to invade YOUR neighborhoods - what do YOU expect?

Then at night, they know who has left for the summer or weekend and they come back with their friends and break into YOUR homes and get some items to pawn and supplement their low incomes. There are even more things to worry about than trash, trash, trash!

[Eileenm]

Girl Scouts were always taught to clean up after themselves. Leave it as nice or nicer then when you found it.

[jimjamuser]

It is worst. Moved here in 2014. People picked up after themselves when leaving the squares. Not now, they think they're royalty. See liquor bottles all over the place. Seen drivers intentionally run over turtles. What kind of society have we've become? America is in free fall. We're an over populated 3rd. world #%*? hole now. The schools don't teach morality, just blame.
I am glad that you are talking about over-population and being or becoming a 3rd world country. I have been accused of over-reacting when talking about excess population. We talk about an infrastructure problem, but there would be zero problem if the US had only 275 million people. I am glad that some here in our bubble recognize that even in our bubble we are affected. People talk about the good old days - well those days were good because the US had 200 million people and the middle class had NOT YET DIED! The rich had not yet fully taken over as they have today in our current 3rd world country.

Ask yourself - will things get better or worse in 40 years when A.I. and Robotics create a US unemployment of as much as 30 %???????

[jimjamuser]

It is worst. Moved here in 2014. People picked up after themselves when leaving the squares. Not now, they think they're royalty. See liquor bottles all over the place. Seen drivers intentionally run over turtles. What kind of society have we've become? America is in free fall. We're an over populated 3rd. world #%*? hole now. The schools don't teach morality, just blame.
Drivers intentionally running over turtles is SICK and SADISTIC! It is the kind of thing that a 14-year-old would do - not an adult! It is just a small step away from intentionally killing someone's pet puppy or cat and should carry just as strong of a civil penalty.

[Bogie Shooter]

I am glad that you are talking about over-population and being or becoming a 3rd world country. I have been accused of over-reacting when talking about excess population. We talk about an infrastructure problem, but there would be zero problem if the US had only 275 million people. I am glad that some here in our bubble recognize that even in our bubble we are affected. People talk about the good old days - well those days were good because the US had 200 million people and the middle class had NOT YET DIED! The rich had not yet fully taken over as they have today in our current 3rd world country.

Ask yourself - will things get better or worse in 40 years when A.I. and Robotics create a US unemployment of as much as 30 %???????

The non Vaxers are/will continue to help your population problem.

[JMintzer]

I have MY hypothesis about why more trash is found on TV Land's streets than 10 or 15 years ago. TV residents of 15 years ago were mostly military enlisted men and wives and people with retirements brought about by UNIONS. They were UNION workers that were committed to the concept of WORKING. Both groups took PRIDE in doing things themselves and with their OWN hands. Most were NOT white-collar managers. So, they cut their OWN grass and hedges and planted and fertilized their own yards. That gave them pride and SATISFACTION. They had purchased their houses at VERY reasonable prices and were FRUGAL with their retirement money.

Today they have died and gone to the BIG Village in the sky. The newer residents pay more for their homes and are more likely to be management types, professionals, or office workers. White-collar types that dislike getting dirty and calloused hands. Unions are GONE for the most part. So, these management types are willing to pay to have ALL the WORK in the yard and house done by younger local workers that often do NOT take pride in their work. They are more interested in drinking after work than they are in clean streets in some RICHY, RICH people's neighborhoods. They DON'T live here so, can you blame them. They cut your grass and leave behind an endless supply of cigarette butts there - and water bottles in YOUR streets. On average, they come from poor, pathetic, trash-filled neighborhoods and you ENCOURAGE them to invade YOUR neighborhoods - what do YOU expect?

Then at night, they know who has left for the summer or weekend and they come back with their friends and break into YOUR homes and get some items to pawn and supplement their low incomes. There are even more things to worry about than trash, trash, trash!

Judgemental much?

[JMintzer]

I am glad that you are talking about over-population and being or becoming a 3rd world country. I have been accused of over-reacting when talking about excess population. We talk about an infrastructure problem, but there would be zero problem if the US had only 275 million people. I am glad that some here in our bubble recognize that even in our bubble we are affected. People talk about the good old days - well those days were good because the US had 200 million people and the middle class had NOT YET DIED! The rich had not yet fully taken over as they have today in our current 3rd world country.

Ask yourself - will things get better or worse in 40 years when A.I. and Robotics create a US unemployment of as much as 30 %???????

Back with a vengeance, I see...

[Papa_lecki]

So after walking several of the walking/bike trails I've noticed a total lack of trash containers along the pathways. Has there ever been a suggestion to place covered garbage bins every so often on these trails? It might cut down on some of the garbage. Of course The Villages landscaping crews would also have to empty them so there would be a cost.

It’s too bad we don’t have small motorized transportation devices with baskets on the back or the ability to keep a trash bag in the transport devices.

Or locations, with maybe pools, tennis courts, mail boxes, etc that are like 0.25 miles apart from each other.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

So after walking several of the walking/bike trails I've noticed a total lack of trash containers along the pathways. Has there ever been a suggestion to place covered garbage bins every so often on these trails? It might cut down on some of the garbage. Of course The Villages landscaping crews would also have to empty them so there would be a cost.

You'd need an entire crew to go through there every single day to check the trash. It's just not very practical or cost-efficient.

Better if you just carry your own trash with you, and toss it when you see a bin to toss it in.

Oh and this isn't for you - this is for "whoever it applies to":

Your little doggie-bag of dog poop does NOT belong in a trash bin anywhere in the Villages, other than your own. Especially when you know it doesn't belong there, and think you're being clever by having two bags - one with dog poop, one empty, and pretending to throw away the empty one but actually throwing away the full one. In front of a couple dozen people. Your righteous indignation when I called you out on it fools no one.

It's your dog. Take your dog's poop back to your dog's house and dispose of it there. Disgusting, insensitive clod.

[Gray lady of the sea]

I STILL pick up all trash when I’m walking. I carry hand sanitizer and a plastic bag. We’ll never stop the lazy people. We are living in a ‘me’ generation - so - we can all work together to pick up after them. Sorry to say this, but what other solution is there ?

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I STILL pick up all trash when I’m walking. I carry hand sanitizer and a plastic bag. We’ll never stop the lazy people. We are living in a ‘me’ generation - so - we can all work together to pick up after them. Sorry to say this, but what other solution is there ?

No solutions. But just like with a lot of medical ailments - there might not be a cure, but there are treatments.

Some options:

Be really OCD about it and take pictures of the offenders and post them on social media to shame them. This actually creates MORE problems, because now you become "one of THOSE people" who have nothing better to do with your life but to humiliate strangers on the internet.

You could vaguebook (like I did a few posts up) and specify an incident without naming names or describing anyone. So if they are the person in question, THEY will know who I'm talking about, but they also know that no one else will know (except the couple dozen people who were there and saw it as well, heh).

You could do nothing, and complain about it to people who can't do anything about it.

You could report them to - someone I guess, the rec department? Describe the person, describe their golf cart, describe their dog, time and exact location, so if the rec department sees them again maybe they could take a look and make sure the person is behaving himself. Not really efficient but it'll make you feel better that you did it.

You could confront the person directly, but I recommend not doing that unless there are a lot of witnesses. People get shot over less, lately.

You could pick up the trash yourself and know you're doing a service to humanity.

You could pick the offending trash up and toss it in the back basket of the guy's golf cart, and wave and say (cheerfully) "Oh this fell out of your cart, I rescued it for you! Have a great day!"

[jimjamuser]

Judgemental much?
Yes, I HAVE opinions. We are still an ALMOST free society.

[JMintzer]

Yes, I HAVE opinions. We are still an ALMOST free society.

At the current rate, not for long...

[jjdmetropa]

question, new here, 6 weeks. does trash pickup also take cinder blocks left by previous owner?