Freedom of Speech

[Tom2172]

It’s interesting how you take Freedom of Speech for granted until it’s gone.

Unfortunately there is no longer any freedom of speech in America!

It now believe the science as dictated to you by the elites. Science used to be about asking questions. That’s how science advances by asking questions. But those days are gone. It’s all believe the science or your a heretic science denier like Galileo who was persecuted in 1615 because he said the earth rotated around the sun!

Don’t talk politics because questioning the ruling class of professional politicians is forbidden.

Tech & media oligarchs now censor whatever is not in their best interests! The 1/2 of 1% now rules America. They just met in sun valley billionaires with total wealth of 5 trillion dollars.
They have freedom to run propaganda brainwashing and to censor free speech!

Where do we go from here? Will freedom become important again or will Americans be content being ruled by billionaire elitists. Economic reality is usually the great leveler. US Debt now 28 trillion which is unsustainable.

[Dana1963]

It’s interesting how you take Freedom of Speech for granted until it’s gone.

Unfortunately there is no longer any freedom of speech in America!

It now believe the science as dictated to you by the elites. Science used to be about asking questions. That’s how science advances by asking questions. But those days are gone. It’s all believe the science or your a heretic science denier like Galileo who was persecuted in 1615 because he said the earth rotated around the sun!

Don’t talk politics because questioning the ruling class of professional politicians is forbidden.

Tech & media oligarchs now censor whatever is not in their best interests! The 1/2 of 1% now rules America. They just met in sun valley billionaires with total wealth of 5 trillion dollars.
They have freedom to run propaganda brainwashing and to censor free speech!

Where do we go from here? Will freedom become important again or will Americans be content being ruled by billionaire elitists. Economic reality is usually the great leveler. US Debt now 28 trillion which is unsustainable.
Just keep your subscription to The Daily Sun, it’s all truth and nothing but the truth.

[ThirdOfFive]

It’s interesting how you take Freedom of Speech for granted until it’s gone.

Unfortunately there is no longer any freedom of speech in America!

It now believe the science as dictated to you by the elites. Science used to be about asking questions. That’s how science advances by asking questions. But those days are gone. It’s all believe the science or your a heretic science denier like Galileo who was persecuted in 1615 because he said the earth rotated around the sun!

Don’t talk politics because questioning the ruling class of professional politicians is forbidden.

Tech & media oligarchs now censor whatever is not in their best interests! The 1/2 of 1% now rules America. They just met in sun valley billionaires with total wealth of 5 trillion dollars.
They have freedom to run propaganda brainwashing and to censor free speech!

Where do we go from here? Will freedom become important again or will Americans be content being ruled by billionaire elitists. Economic reality is usually the great leveler. US Debt now 28 trillion which is unsustainable.
The Constitution protects people from having their speech censored by the government, not by private enterprise. As frustrating as it is to read or watch, any private-enterprise medium has the right to print, say or censor anything it wants, subject of course to applicable law.

The risk of course is that the credibility of such media suffer. Preaching to the choir may make the ideologues in the audience happy, but in my opinion it is not the best way to increase circulation or viewership.

[camaguey48]

It’s interesting how you take Freedom of Speech for granted until it’s gone.

Unfortunately there is no longer any freedom of speech in America!

It now believe the science as dictated to you by the elites. Science used to be about asking questions. That’s how science advances by asking questions. But those days are gone. It’s all believe the science or your a heretic science denier like Galileo who was persecuted in 1615 because he said the earth rotated around the sun!

Don’t talk politics because questioning the ruling class of professional politicians is forbidden.

Tech & media oligarchs now censor whatever is not in their best interests! The 1/2 of 1% now rules America. They just met in sun valley billionaires with total wealth of 5 trillion dollars.
They have freedom to run propaganda brainwashing and to censor free speech!

Where do we go from here? Will freedom become important again or will Americans be content being ruled by billionaire elitists. Economic reality is usually the great leveler. US Debt now 28 trillion which is unsustainable.
Freedom of speech? Really? We can say anything we want to say without fear of repercussions. So states the ministry of propaganda and public enlightenment. Dah?

[Two Bills]

......and when the immediate reponse is criticism of the OP's grammar, then call them ignorant, you realise how far some people can get up their own backsides!:ohdear:

[golfing eagles]

......and when the immediate reponse is criticism of the OP's grammar, then call them ignorant, you realise how far some people can get up their own backsides!:ohdear:

Actually, I liked the OP. The ignorance of the grammar was matched only by the ignorance of the content.

[Arctic Fox]

It’s interesting how you take Freedom of Speech for granted until it’s gone. Unfortunately there is no longer any freedom of speech in America!

I'm guessing that you have never lived somewhere where there really is no freedom of speech?

[DAVES]

It’s interesting how you take Freedom of Speech for granted until it’s gone.

Unfortunately there is no longer any freedom of speech in America!

It now believe the science as dictated to you by the elites. Science used to be about asking questions. That’s how science advances by asking questions. But those days are gone. It’s all believe the science or your a heretic science denier like Galileo who was persecuted in 1615 because he said the earth rotated around the sun!

Don’t talk politics because questioning the ruling class of professional politicians is forbidden.

Tech & media oligarchs now censor whatever is not in their best interests! The 1/2 of 1% now rules America. They just met in sun valley billionaires with total wealth of 5 trillion dollars.
They have freedom to run propaganda brainwashing and to censor free speech!

Where do we go from here? Will freedom become important again or will Americans be content being ruled by billionaire elitists. Economic reality is usually the great leveler. US Debt now 28 trillion which is unsustainable.


Read the posts from our fellow villagers. These people are older, more educated, and more prosperous than average. Yet, for too many their view is freedom of speech is only if your agree with me. That is truly sad. That is where we are and how we got here.

Several points in this post. That half of 1% first of all I've heard that same point for 1%. It does not matter. History shows the same tactic establish HATE, a powerful mindless emotion. The evil 1%? No I am not in the 1% but the math is simple if we dare to see what is happening. Establish a group to HATE, in our case 1% use that to unite the other 99% of potential voters to your side.

In terms of the 28 TRILLION dollar debt. We have been hoodwinked. How many tossing about this term, parroting what we are being fed, dare, as I do, to realize they do not comprehend one trillion let alone 28 of them.

Solutions? Sadly, I do not see any. I've never in my life seen our country so divided.
The fault? The fault is our people.

[DAVES]

Actually, I liked the OP. The ignorance of the grammar was matched only by the ignorance of the content.

Hum, some resort to name calling. I am proudly DEPLORABLE.

[golfing eagles]

Hum, some resort to name calling. I am proudly DEPLORABLE.

Too bad, since I agree with your previous post. By the way, "ignorant" is not "name calling". It is an accurate, descriptive term for that first post.

[DAVES]

The Constitution protects people from having their speech censored by the government, not by private enterprise. As frustrating as it is to read or watch, any private-enterprise medium has the right to print, say or censor anything it wants, subject of course to applicable law.

The risk of course is that the credibility of such media suffer. Preaching to the choir may make the ideologues in the audience happy, but in my opinion it is not the best way to increase circulation or viewership.

HUH? We can take any law and tie it into a knot. We actually have people who study how to do it we call them attorneys. There is intent of a law. That is decided in court.
Rulings establishes legal precedent.

As far as news, information that people vote on. Who owns the news is a topic many should read about. According to my reading, yes, every article has the bias of the writer and or the source-that is the problem. In any case what I've read was that in the 1960s
there were fifty major owners of news. Today, it is five. Of the five four have a left wing bias.

Fair news? For most of us it is news that agrees with our bias.

[ThirdOfFive]

HUH? We can take any law and tie it into a knot. We actually have people who study how to do it we call them attorneys. There is intent of a law. That is decided in court.
Rulings establishes legal precedent.

As far as news, information that people vote on. Who owns the news is a topic many should read about. According to my reading, yes, every article has the bias of the writer and or the source-that is the problem. In any case what I've read was that in the 1960s
there were four major owners of news. Today, it is five. Of the five four have a left wing bias.

Fair news? For most of us it is news that agrees with our bias.
Carrying it one step further...laws in this country must be CONSTITUTIONAL; in this particular case meaning that the right of free speech is a right of not only individuals but to privately-owned businesses (media) as well. The law can no more tell media what it can and cannot say than it can tell you what you can and cannot say, both of course subject to applicable law (you can't yell "FIRE" in a crowded theater, to use a well-worn example).

Don't like what you are reading and hearing? You have the right of free speech, as have we all. But none of us has the right not to be offended.

[Bill14564]

HUH? We can take any law and tie it into a knot. We actually have people who study how to do it we call them attorneys. There is intent of a law. That is decided in court.
Rulings establishes legal precedent.

....

No need for tying or interpreting the intent, the language is very clear and concise:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

The amendment prohibits government from creating laws that abridge the freedom of speech but it does not apply to private entities such as facebook or ToTV.

[Boomer]

No need for tying or interpreting the intent, the language is very clear and concise:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

The amendment prohibits government from creating laws that abridge the freedom of speech but it does not apply to private entities such as facebook or ToTV.

Of course, that's correct, but those who have been programmed with words and catch phrases to go forth and regurgitate just do not want to hear it or even try to understand it.

Boomer

[Ben Franklin]

It’s interesting how you take Freedom of Speech for granted until it’s gone.

Unfortunately there is no longer any freedom of speech in America!

It now believe the science as dictated to you by the elites. Science used to be about asking questions. That’s how science advances by asking questions. But those days are gone. It’s all believe the science or your a heretic science denier like Galileo who was persecuted in 1615 because he said the earth rotated around the sun!

Don’t talk politics because questioning the ruling class of professional politicians is forbidden.

Tech & media oligarchs now censor whatever is not in their best interests! The 1/2 of 1% now rules America. They just met in sun valley billionaires with total wealth of 5 trillion dollars.
They have freedom to run propaganda brainwashing and to censor free speech!

Where do we go from here? Will freedom become important again or will Americans be content being ruled by billionaire elitists. Economic reality is usually the great leveler. US Debt now 28 trillion which is unsustainable.

I would suggest learning what free speech is protected by our Constitution. Government can not deny or infringe on your free speech. Businesses have every right to make the rules for their business model. Just because you don't like what some business models incorporate doesn't mean they are taking away your free speech. Can a restaurant deny you service if you don't have a shirt on? Yes, they can. You can always get on a soap box and speak all you want, until someone throws a tomato at you ;-)

[golfing eagles]

I would suggest learning what free speech is protected by our Constitution. Government can not deny or infringe on your free speech. Businesses have every right to make the rules for their business model. Just because you don't like what some business models incorporate doesn't mean they are taking away your free speech. Can a restaurant deny you service if you don't have a shirt on? Yes, they can. You can always get on a soap box and speak all you want, until someone throws a tomato at you ;-)

Well, interestingly I received an infraction for "foul language" because I used the word "cr@p" on a post on this thread that was removed. Very ironic on a thread entitled "freedom of speech" :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: But if that word was offensive to anyone (except the person who wrote the post it was referring to), I APOLOGIZE.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Well, interestingly I received an infraction for "foul language" because I used the word "cr@p" on a post on this thread that was removed. Very ironic on a thread entitled "freedom of speech" :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: But if that word was offensive to anyone (except the person who wrote the post it was referring to), I APOLOGIZE.

I don't understand your point. As most posts have stated, and legal scholars support, Freedom of speech has NOTHING to do with TOTV. They can ban you for life for saying purple if they want to.

[Timothyimitchell]

Agree 100% with OP.
It may take we the people to fix it.
It will come to that.

[jbartle1]

Freedom of speech is alive and well, truth in speeches, not so much!!!!!!!

[jbartle1]

HUH? We can take any law and tie it into a knot. We actually have people who study how to do it we call them attorneys. There is intent of a law. That is decided in court.
Rulings establishes legal precedent.

As far as news, information that people vote on. Who owns the news is a topic many should read about. According to my reading, yes, every article has the bias of the writer and or the source-that is the problem. In any case what I've read was that in the 1960s
there were four major owners of news. Today, it is five. Of the five four have a left wing bias.

Fair news? For most of us it is news that agrees with our bias.

News??? One is entertainment only! Some opinions, most flirt with the truth, but we all have options, believe it or not.

[jbartle1]

Hum, some resort to name calling. I am proudly DEPLORABLE.

And I'm relentlessly interested in FAct checking everything, which makes freedom of speech a piece of cake.

[golfing eagles]

I don't understand your point. As most posts have stated, and legal scholars support, Freedom of speech has NOTHING to do with TOTV. They can ban you for life for saying purple if they want to.

Oh, come on. You understand it 100% Of course freedom of speech doesn't apply here, but it is still ironic

[GrumpyOldMan]

Agree 100% with OP.
It may take we the people to fix it.
It will come to that.

Fix what? You want the current political administration (whichever is current - for 4 years) to have the ability to pass laws governing what your business can and can not do regarding speech?

Seriously?

That sounds almost exactly like socialism, where the government controls the companies.

[GrumpyOldMan]

HUH? We can take any law and tie it into a knot. We actually have people who study how to do it we call them attorneys. There is intent of a law. That is decided in court.
Rulings establishes legal precedent.

As far as news, information that people vote on. Who owns the news is a topic many should read about. According to my reading, yes, every article has the bias of the writer and or the source-that is the problem. In any case what I've read was that in the 1960s
there were four major owners of news. Today, it is five. Of the five four have a left wing bias.

Fair news? For most of us it is news that agrees with our bias.

So, the problem you are expressing here is that left-leaning media outnumber right-leaning media? And for that, you want to abandon the constitution and force companies to do what you want them to do?

Would you be as concerned if the majority of news outlets were right-leaning? I mean Tucker is the most-watched show in the US, should we censor his show because I disagree with his right-wing bias?

[Laker14]

The Sediton Act of 1918 was enacted specifically to curtail free speech in the United States. Speaking out against US involvement in WWI was viewed by the government as "disloyal". More than 2,000 Americans were tried for the crime of sedition for speaking out against US involvement, and more than 1,000 convicted.

Similar laws were passed and used to stifle discussions against the Revolutionary War, The Civil War, WWII, and the war in Vietnam.

Freedom of Speech in this country as long been an illusion.

[GrumpyOldMan]

The Sediton Act of 1918 was enacted specifically to curtail free speech in the United States. Speaking out against US involvement in WWI was viewed by the government as "disloyal". More than 2,000 Americans were tried for the crime of sedition for speaking out against US involvement, and more than 1,000 convicted.
Freedom of Speech in this country has long been an illusion.

Should make a list of all the atrocities committed by the US and show how horrible it is? Or maybe we accept that the US is not perfect, never has been. perfect, but is trying to be better. Compare Freedom of Speech in the US to almost any country in the world, and it is one of the few remaining categories where the US is in number 1 position.

Also, no RIGHT is unlimited, as Justice Alito said, all rights have limits. In the case of speech, you can not yell fire in a club or movie theater, and sedition is the equivalent of that on a much larger scale.

France goes so far as to have a Dept of Language (something like that) which regulates which WORDS are accepted in the the French Lanague...

[Laker14]

Should make a list of all the atrocities committed by the US and show how horrible it is? Or maybe we accept that the US is not perfect, never has been. perfect, but is trying to be better. Compare Freedom of Speech in the US the almost any country in the world, and it is one of the few remaining categories where the US is in number 1 position.

France goes so far as to have a Dept of Language (something like that) which regulates which WORDS are accepted in the the French Lanague...

Make whatever lists you want. My point is that we have been told that in America we have freedom of speech, and shown the printed words of the Constitution where we are guaranteed this freedom. This simply has, however, never been the case.

[Bucco]

Freedom of speech is alive and well, truth in speeches, not so much!!!!!!!

So true. We were treated the last few days to so much anti-American talk, it flat out scared me.

Then there is a segment who actually believe the stuff. I suppose it is just easier.

I have read enough history to know the road we are on and it has terrible ending written all over.

It has nothing to do with “free speech”, but a lot to due with believing lying speech.

History is supposed to teach us, but alas...

[Bucco]

So, the problem you are expressing here is that left-leaning media outnumber right-leaning media? And for that, you want to abandon the constitution and force companies to do what you want them to do?

Would you be as concerned if the majority of news outlets were right-leaning? I mean Tucker is the most-watched show in the US, should we censor his show because I disagree with his right-wing bias?

Calling that speak....”right wing bias” is a bit....soft...it is off the scale un-American, but he has the right to say what he wants.

Maybe out of order, but the talk about private corporations stifling free speech is scary.

Any website you sign up for has you agree with their terms, so...rules are rules.....and as someone else mentioned TOTV can suspend you for many things, yet if you read the untrue posts, the false claims, the violation of copyright to pass on totally unamerican thoughts, they certainly are not stifling free speech.

Big and immense difference between bias speak and downright LYING

[Codysmom]

And I am, once again, reminded why I don’t read posts on here. Thanks for the reminder. See ya!

[tsmall22204]

Your glass truly is half empty.

[Annie66]

Just keep your subscription to The Daily Sun, it’s all truth and nothing but the truth.

You're welcome to your opinion. I just don't agree with it.

[Girlcopper]

It’s interesting how you take Freedom of Speech for granted until it’s gone.

Unfortunately there is no longer any freedom of speech in America!

It now believe the science as dictated to you by the elites. Science used to be about asking questions. That’s how science advances by asking questions. But those days are gone. It’s all believe the science or your a heretic science denier like Galileo who was persecuted in 1615 because he said the earth rotated around the sun!

Don’t talk politics because questioning the ruling class of professional politicians is forbidden.

Tech & media oligarchs now censor whatever is not in their best interests! The 1/2 of 1% now rules America. They just met in sun valley billionaires with total wealth of 5 trillion dollars.
They have freedom to run propaganda brainwashing and to censor free speech!

Where do we go from here? Will freedom become important again or will Americans be content being ruled by billionaire elitists. Economic reality is usually the great leveler. US Debt now 28 trillion which is unsustainable.
Quit reading so much and enjoy the final years of your life. You moved to Tv for an enjoyable life. Stop acting like Debbie Downer

[Billy1]

Enjoyed this freedom of speech, God bless America. U.S. of A. a great country.

[Eg_cruz]

Quit reading so much and enjoy the final years of your life. You moved to Tv for an enjoyable life. Stop acting like Debbie Downer
Wow….. bury your head in the sand because your children, grandchildren and great grandchildren have nothing to do with this country because you’re retired. Let’s not worry about anything outside the bubble like our country or family…….smh

[SacDQ]

America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.

Abraham Lincoln

[NoMo50]

Wanna be happy? Do what I did...stop watching the "news."

[Eg_cruz]

So, the problem you are expressing here is that left-leaning media outnumber right-leaning media? And for that, you want to abandon the constitution and force companies to do what you want them to do?

Would you be as concerned if the majority of news outlets were right-leaning? I mean Tucker is the most-watched show in the US, should we censor his show because I disagree with his right-wing bias?
It’s not just that. The point here is that the media twist and turns the new to what they want you to hear. Have you been in the dark. Big social media has censored their sites to fit their personal agenda, they hide the truth if it does not fit the agenda for the day. News report report ONLY what they are told and they are feed words and lines to use in their reports. Have not watch the videos of CNN telling the employees what they are allow to report. In case you don’t truly get it Censorship is a violation of freedom of speech.

[Larchap49]

Freedom of speech? Really? We can say anything we want to say without fear of repercussions. So states the ministry of propaganda and public enlightenment. Dah?

WELCOME TO THE NEW AMERICA!!!!! Sad but true. We are witnessing the beginning of the end

[bp243]

I'm guessing that you have never lived somewhere where there really is no freedom of speech?
This is an answer that resonates with reality!

[bp243]

Freedom of speech is alive and well, truth in speeches, not so much!!!!!!!
Wow…you nailed it!

[tvbound]

It's always amazing, how many people don't really understand that freedom of speech only applies to the government restricting such, not to private businesses. Then there are those who fail to understand that freedom of speech, doesn't insulate one from the consequences of that speech. It's also not a coincidence that a lot of those screaming the loudest about how their speech is being restricted, by private entities, are often the same ones who constantly lie and spread the most outrageous conspiracy theories. Keeping in mind, that cyber-space is so large, that anyone can find at least a few places that will allow (and even welcome) their wacky and extremist opinions.