Effects after covid shots

[Bay Kid]

Just curious of anybody noticed any changes in your body after covid shots? It has been 3 months since my 2nd shot. I notice over the past few weeks that my sense of smell is changing. Also more joint aches and pains. Could be just getting older, but seems strange to just start happening.

[Dan9871]

You can report your symptoms to the CDC here:

VAERS - Report an Adverse Event (https://vaers.hhs.gov/reportevent.html)

[Dana1963]

Just curious of anybody noticed any changes in your body after covid shots? It has been 3 months since my 2nd shot. I notice over the past few weeks that my sense of smell is changing. Also more joint aches and pains. Could be just getting older, but seems strange to just start happening.
5 months after my second Moderna Shot. No noticeable side effects sleep better, better stamina.

[Byte1]

Our neighbors bragged about NEVER catching colds. A month or so after receiving their second shot, they both caught some sort of respiratory illness that caused them to cough a lot, and had head congestion. They had NO fever and this lasted for over two weeks. They did not seek professional medical assistance and both took cold medications until their illness was gone. Whether this was related to the vaccination, or a coincidence one can only guess. They do not get their FLU shots and state that they have never had the FLU. Interesting point is that even though they were pretty ill, they did not ever have a fever related to the illness.

[Tommyc6]

Wife had annual physical, ekg etc weeks prior to J&J vaccine her blood pressure as usual was a tad low, ekg was normal, she is now under the care of a cardiologist for high blood pressure.

[Velvet]

1st day after 2nd Pfizer low fever and achy slept next day most of the day. Next two weeks I felt grumpy. One month later, back to normal. Two months later - can’t stop smiling.

[justjim]

No problems with my wife or me after five months. We had the Moderna vaccine. It is not a fountain of youth but one can only continue to wish…

[billethkid]

No problems.
Disappointed at the overall low % vaccinated.

[Neils]

Problem finding a place to store my cloth masks after vaccine

[Byte1]

1st day after 2nd Pfizer low fever and achy slept next day most of the day. Next two weeks I felt grumpy. One month later, back to normal. Two months later - can’t stop smiling.

Seek medical assistance immediately! Have them check you to see if you have had a stroke.............:1rotfl:

[Alex2021]

No notable reaction. Pleased no marsks!

[Blackbird45]

MY body started to have magnetic properties, first it was just keys.
It’s gotten worst, the other day my wife had to peel me off the refrigerator.

[Rwirish]

None, sign of getting older.

[yourjoy]

Side effect of the vaccine? Yes, I’m alive!

[golfing eagles]

Wife had annual physical, ekg etc weeks prior to J&J vaccine her blood pressure as usual was a tad low, ekg was normal, she is now under the care of a cardiologist for high blood pressure.

post hoc ergo propter hoc (literally, after this therefore because of this)
In other words, might or might not be related, certainly no proof that it is.

[scottiesrgreat@gmail.com]

Just curious of anybody noticed any changes in your body after covid shots? It has been 3 months since my 2nd shot. I notice over the past few weeks that my sense of smell is changing. Also more joint aches and pains. Could be just getting older, but seems strange to just start happening.

Older. No way to escape getting older.

Enjoy life as much as you can - because when you are taking your last breath - you will regret wasting valuable time fretting over these small things rather than going on a walk, enjoying times with family & friends and living life!!

[Annie66]

Older. No way to escape getting older.

Enjoy life as much as you can - because when you are taking your last breath - you will regret wasting valuable time fretting over these small things rather than going on a walk, enjoying times with family & friends and living life!!

Amen!

[matandch]

Seems to have worked. Haven’t gotten Covid. No need for hospitalization or intubation. Feel great!

[NoMo50]

Lost 20 lbs. Color came back in my hair. Wrinkles disappeared. Took 5 strokes off my golf game. Knees quit hurting. Quit making funny noises when getting up out of a chair. Oh wait...maybe I was dreaming.

[nn0wheremann]

4 and a half months past Moderna shot two, and no problems yet.

[allsport]

Just curious of anybody noticed any changes in your body after covid shots? It has been 3 months since my 2nd shot. I notice over the past few weeks that my sense of smell is changing. Also more joint aches and pains. Could be just getting older, but seems strange to just start happening.

Sounds like Covid symptoms, get tested.

[Andyb]

Yes, I notice personality changes with some people including my parents. Mom was sick for several days and became more confused up till now. I read where joint pain is a side effect to the shots.

[Nannyof3]

absolute best reply. thanks

[Girlcopper]

Just curious of anybody noticed any changes in your body after covid shots? It has been 3 months since my 2nd shot. I notice over the past few weeks that my sense of smell is changing. Also more joint aches and pains. Could be just getting older, but seems strange to just start happening.
Symptoms dont suddenly appear 3 months later. Probably just old age

[JMintzer]

After my 1st Moderna shot, my arm hurt like hell, was red, swollen and I could hardly lift it. I had a mid fever and chills, was tired for 3 days.

After the 2nd shot? Nothing...

But I am getting much better 5G reception on my cellphone, so there's that...

[ThirdOfFive]

Just curious of anybody noticed any changes in your body after covid shots? It has been 3 months since my 2nd shot. I notice over the past few weeks that my sense of smell is changing. Also more joint aches and pains. Could be just getting older, but seems strange to just start happening.
Dunno. Had Pfizer X 2 and other than feeling kinda puny the next day both times, no ill effects lasting beyond that.

Then again I had COVID last year and it was no big deal. Not fun, but I've had far worse bouts with the flu.

[Sparky25]

Get a Covid test. You may be in the 5% that the Covid vaccine does not work for


Just curious of anybody noticed any changes in your body after covid shots? It has been 3 months since my 2nd shot. I notice over the past few weeks that my sense of smell is changing. Also more joint aches and pains. Could be just getting older, but seems strange to just start happening.

[olliedog1950]

After my 1st Moderna shot, my arm hurt like hell, was red, swollen and I could hardly lift it. I had a mid fever and chills, was tired for 3 days.

After the 2nd shot? Nothing...

But I am getting much better 5G reception my cellphone, so there's that...
My wife and I have the J&J shot, no problems. I do recall that 5 years ago I saw a clown parade, the next week I broke my leg, so no more clowns!, I might break the other leg if I see another clown.
Time to hit the links, glad I woke up this morning.

[Sparky25]

You may be in the 5% of those people that the Covid vaccine does not work for

Just curious of anybody noticed any changes in your body after covid shots? It has been 3 months since my 2nd shot. I notice over the past few weeks that my sense of smell is changing. Also more joint aches and pains. Could be just getting older, but seems strange to just start happening.

[Moderator]

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[merrymini]

Just because some people do not get side effects, it does not mean everyone does not get side effects. Good luck getting anyone to admit they may be related. They are on the wuhan virus vaccine train.

[pittta]

Not much difference. Just my tinnitus got a little worst

[Dgodin]

I had the Pfizer shots. No side effects after the shot or long term

[glsatterlee]

The VAERS system is the government’s primary database for safety and performance surveillance of all vaccines, not just the three CCP virus vaccines currently being administered in the United States.

He noted that prior to the CCP virus vaccines, “VAERS averages 50,000 adverse event reports annually (approximately 1,000 per week). The [CDC] and FDA subsequently informed my staff that as of June 28, 2021, VAERS had received 410,000 submissions detailing adverse events following a COVID-19 vaccination.”

[lkagele]

Not much difference. Just my tinnitus got a little worst

That has happened to me as well. Fairly noticeable increase in the ringing in my right ear.

[drstevens]

Also, go to The COVID Blog - Official blog of COVID Legal USA. Vaccines are the leading cause of coincidences. Stay Vigilant. (http://www.thecovidblog.com)

[jbrown132]

Just curious of anybody noticed any changes in your body after covid shots? It has been 3 months since my 2nd shot. I notice over the past few weeks that my sense of smell is changing. Also more joint aches and pains. Could be just getting older, but seems strange to just start happening.
Nothing at all. Like you said maybe your just getting older or you keep looking for something you can attribute to the vaccine. Just a suggestion, go keep living your life and stop worrying about this kind of thing. As a friend once told me old age doesn’t last long so enjoy it.

[ellenwelsh]

My blood pressure plummeted. My doc has taken me off two of the bp meds she had me on for years.

[COLTempleton]

Someone has been watching West Wing ...

[pittta]

Just curious of anybody noticed any changes in your body after covid shots? It has been 3 months since my 2nd shot. I notice over the past few weeks that my sense of smell is changing. Also more joint aches and pains. Could be just getting older, but seems strange to just start happening.

Not much difference, just my tinnitus got a little worst

[noslices1]

Just curious of anybody noticed any changes in your body after covid shots? It has been 3 months since my 2nd shot. I notice over the past few weeks that my sense of smell is changing. Also more joint aches and pains. Could be just getting older, but seems strange to just start happening.

I thought I was growing a third arm until I realized I had my glasses on backwards. Other than that, no side effects.

[COLTempleton]

post hoc ergo propter hoc (literally, after this therefore because of this)
In other words, might or might not be related, certainly no proof that it is.

Someone has been watching West Wing ...

[nhtexasrn]

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: Lol!!!

[nhtexasrn]

:1rotfl:

[kendi]

[QUOTE=Byte1;1973527]Our neighbors bragged about NEVER catching colds. A month or so after receiving their second shot, they both caught some sort of respiratory illness that caused them to cough a lot, and had head congestion. They had NO fever and this lasted for over two weeks. They did not seek professional medical assistance and both took cold medications until their illness was gone. Whether this was related to the vaccination, or a coincidence one can only guess. They do not get their FLU shots and state that they have never had the FLU. Interesting point is that even though they were pretty ill, they did not ever have a fever related to the illness.[/QUOTE

Fevers do not usually occur with colds which is what it sounds like they had. I never get a fever with my colds, even the real bad ones. What they had doesn’t sound unusual at all.

[OhioBuckeye]

Just curious of anybody noticed any changes in your body after covid shots? It has been 3 months since my 2nd shot. I notice over the past few weeks that my sense of smell is changing. Also more joint aches and pains. Could be just getting older, but seems strange to just start happening.

I’m having a little muscle pain in both arms. But I’m NOT going to blame it on Covid just because some people were pressured to get the shots & are blaming it on Covid. I blame it on old age. If I don’t get Covid I can stand a little pain, it was worth it. People on the news can talk us into anything. Just don’t let it get to your head. But it would be terrible down the road if we did find out it gave us a terminal disease to millions of people. I’ll worry about that when it happens!

[camaguey48]

Just curious of anybody noticed any changes in your body after covid shots? It has been 3 months since my 2nd shot. I notice over the past few weeks that my sense of smell is changing. Also more joint aches and pains. Could be just getting older, but seems strange to just start happening.
My wife and I thought we had the CCP virus while out of the country, three days later we was back to normal. When we came back, our doctor prescribed a blood analysis specifically to determine if we had the CCP virus. Both of us tested positive for the antibodies so our doctor stopped telling us to get jabbed. It's been four months and counting and we feel better than we deserve.

[cassjax2]

I had J&J a few months ago but have not had any type of reaction. I guess everyone is different with different reactions.

[Waltdisney4life]

Sell the fear !!!

[Gizemo33]

Yup you are correct, you are just getting older. Don’t worry , it eventually happens to everyone. NO it is not the Delta variant. Think positive and go see a doctor. A real doctor. Do not panic when you read some of the replies that are coming your way. Just curious of anybody noticed any changes in your body after covid shots? It has been 3 months since my 2nd shot. I notice over the past few weeks that my sense of smell is changing. Also more joint aches and pains. Could be just getting older, but seems strange to just start happening.

[Tom2172]

I break out in hives when ever Fauci is on TV . Other then that fine

[conman5652@aol.com]

Well it seem u are trying to blame the shots for ur problems. As u get older ur taste smell and a more pain comes because we don’t stay active. But if u think covied shot caused it there are plenty of lawyer that can get u money if that what are thinking

[MrFlorida]

No, after 5 months all is normal.

[reddragon]

Thanks for the humor

[Calisport]

About a month after my 2nd moderna shot I had the extreme chills in the middle of the night again but less severe. Haven’t noticed much else.

[Jeanne wilson]

:1rotfl::1rotfl::mademyday::1rotfl:🤣

[Jeanne wilson]

MY body started to have magnetic properties, first it was just keys.
It’s gotten worst, the other day my wife had to peel me off the refrigerator.

:1rotfl::mademyday::1rotfl:

[GrumpyOldMan]

There has been a black helicopter following me around every day since I got the second shot. Not saying they injected a tracking device, but it is a strange coincidence. It just keeps showing up everywhere I go, how do they know?

(humor)

[Kenswing]

There has been a black helicopter following me around every day since I got the second shot. Not saying they injected a tracking device, but it is a strange coincidence. It just keeps showing up everywhere I go, how do they know?

(humor)Wait.. Don't you have to get out of the house and away from the computer to actually be followed? :icon_wink:

[GrumpyOldMan]

Wait.. Don't you have to get out of the house and away from the computer to actually be followed? :icon_wink:

:bigbow:

Busted! However, I do take my iPad out when I leave the house, but I need to get a Tesla so I can post while it drives me places.

[Packer Fan]

One thing we can count on in life - People are stupid. After that its all fuzzy.
So to the OP = so you live in a world where you eat foods that come from boxes with 40 ingredients in them. You are in constant contact with chemicals and plastics that have been shown to cause health problems (don't believe it, read the California prop 65 disclaimer that comes on almost everything these days). At the age people are in the villages, you are probably on several medications like Statins. You may have taken Birth control pills for 20 years(which have WAY worse side effects than any vaccine). After all that, a tiny piece of RNA that has to be boosted so it does not disappear in your blood stream too quickly is what is causing your issues? I sincerely doubt it. There has NEVER been a vaccine that has a side effect that manifests itself more than 2 months after administration. Much more likely you will have a reaction to your new shampoo. The only side effect from the vaccine at this point is YOU WON'T DIE. Hows that. Turn off the news.

To several of the "anti-vax" posters. Stop listening to crazy people on the internet. If you are over 60, there can be serious consequences with this virus. Way worse than any vaccine side effects EVER, from any vaccine. You could die, that's pretty final. 3.5 BILLION people have had the vaccine. It has been studied to death. it is safe and effective. Go get it and go on with your life.
Just so you know, I am very conservative, have an engineering degree and am married to an RN. I read all the studies - there is nothing to worry about from the vaccines. Just stop. I used to think conservtives were just smarter than liberals but lately I doubt that too. just go up to my first statement. Lots of stupid on both sides. I seriously don't understand why we need to vaccinate kids for this, it does not hurt them. However, if you are over 60, your chances of dying go up exponentially.

I am almost as sick of the anti vax crowd as I am of masks (which don't work at ALL, the data says the exact opposite in fact). Lets please move on.

[Vicxyz]

The original poster’s question and concerns are very valid. Anyone who has reviewed the data in the CDC VAERS database would know that. And the numbers have been estimated to be only one percent of actual events, as most are never reported. As of 7/9/21, VAERS reports 10,991 deaths in people after receiving a Covid experimental injection. And tinnitus has been widely reported as an adverse effect (5,442 events reported).

[Bill14564]

The original poster’s question and concerns are very valid. Anyone who has reviewed the data in the CDC VAERS database would know that. And the numbers have been estimated to be only one percent of actual events, as most are never reported. As of 7/9/21, VAERS reports 10,991 deaths in people after receiving a Covid experimental injection. And tinnitus has been widely reported as an adverse effect (5,442 events reported).

The juxtaposition of this post and the one by Packer Fan is quite amusing!

I would be surprised if ONLY 10,991 deaths have occurred in people after receiving the vaccine. Approximately 50% of the US population has been vaccinated in the last six months. In a "normal" year there are about 2.8 Million deaths. Therefore, in a "normal" year there would be approximately 700,000 deaths in 50% of the population. If there have been ONLY 10,991 deaths then either there are something like 690,000 more deaths that no one entered into the database OR the vaccine has actually prevented 690,000 deaths that otherwise would have occurred.

Bottom line: People die, people have tinnitus, and people have aches and pains all the time. The presence of an entry in the VAERS database shows correlation, not causation. There's a saying about hoofbeats and zebras that seems to apply here.

[Velvet]

The juxtaposition of this post and the one by Packer Fan is quite amusing!

I would be surprised if ONLY 10,991 deaths have occurred in people after receiving the vaccine. Approximately 50% of the US population has been vaccinated in the last six months. In a "normal" year there are about 2.8 Million deaths. Therefore, in a "normal" year there would be approximately 700,000 deaths in 50% of the population. If there have been ONLY 10,991 deaths then either there are something like 690,000 more deaths that no one entered into the database OR the vaccine has actually prevented 690,000 deaths that otherwise would have occurred.

Bottom line: People die, people have tinnitus, and people have aches and pains all the time. The presence of an entry in the VAERS database shows correlation, not causation. There's a saying about hoofbeats and zebras that seems to apply here.

There you are being reasonable again!

[kcrazorbackfan]

Just curious of anybody noticed any changes in your body after covid shots? It has been 3 months since my 2nd shot. I notice over the past few weeks that my sense of smell is changing. Also more joint aches and pains. Could be just getting older, but seems strange to just start happening.

No lingering effects; felt like crap the day after but played 18 and had a hole in one on Jacaranda #8.

[Vicxyz]

The VAERS system has been active for 22 years. The number of deaths for the covid “vaccination” is now more than double the deaths reported for all vaccinations combined in the previous 22 years.

[graciegirl]

The VAERS system has been active for 22 years. The number of deaths for the covid “vaccination” is now more than double the deaths reported for all vaccinations combined in the previous 22 years.

Link us please, to the source of this information. I am extremely skeptical.

[Bill14564]

The VAERS system has been active for 22 years. The number of deaths for the covid “vaccination” is now more than double the deaths reported for all vaccinations combined in the previous 22 years.

And which of those vaccinations of the last 22 years were followed as closely as this one? Which of those vaccinations were given to as many as this one? Which of those vaccinations had as many anti-vaxxers trying to find anything to prove their point as this one?

Is the number of reported deaths double because the vaccine is more dangerous or because there are tens of thousands more who want to believe it is?

Horses come in white and can have black markings but that still doesn't make them zebras.

[billethkid]

And which of those vaccinations of the last 22 years were followed as closely as this one? Which of those vaccinations were given to as many as this one? Which of those vaccinations had as many anti-vaxxers trying to find anything to prove their point as this one?

Is the number of reported deaths double because the vaccine is more dangerous or because there are tens of thousands more who want to believe it is?

Horses come in white and can have black markings but that still doesn't make them zebras.

How many of the above were being used for political agendas?

[Dan9871]

Link us please, to the source of this information. I am extremely skeptical.

VAERS - Data (https://vaers.hhs.gov/data.html)

[Bill14564]

How many of the above were being used for political agendas?

How many of the above vaccines or how many of the reported deaths? My guess is none of the first and an alarming number of the second.

[petiteone]

Just curious of anybody noticed any changes in your body after covid shots? It has been 3 months since my 2nd shot. I notice over the past few weeks that my sense of smell is changing. Also more joint aches and pains. Could be just getting older, but seems strange to just start happening.

Since these symptoms are just appearing 3 months after your 2nd shot it could be you've been exposed to the Delta Variant and it broke through.

[coffeebean]

Yes, I notice personality changes with some people including my parents. Mom was sick for several days and became more confused up till now. I read where joint pain is a side effect to the shots.

Sounds more like normal aging to me but what do I know?

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

And which of those vaccinations of the last 22 years were followed as closely as this one? Which of those vaccinations were given to as many as this one? Which of those vaccinations had as many anti-vaxxers trying to find anything to prove their point as this one?

Is the number of reported deaths double because the vaccine is more dangerous or because there are tens of thousands more who want to believe it is?

Horses come in white and can have black markings but that still doesn't make them zebras.

Even though the warning at the very top of the VAERS website urges people to NOT use data as statistical evidence of ANYTHING, people choose to do so anyway.

The VAERS system is a *reporting* system. It collects reports from people. It is not evidence that any reports are based in fact. Many of those reports are completely unrelated to anything.

There have been reports of people dying shortly after ingesting "this" thing, or getting "that" vaccination.

What those reports DON'T mention - is that those people also ingested a quart of vodka in an hour's time, or that they were already dying of advanced stage brain cancer.

The reason that information doesn't show up in those reports, is because they are reported by ANYONE. Anyone can file a report, and it can say just about anything.

It is a collection of reports system, nothing more or less.

[stanley]

Sounds more like normal aging to me but what do I know?

Boy that's a loaded question.

[coffeebean]

The original poster’s question and concerns are very valid. Anyone who has reviewed the data in the CDC VAERS database would know that. And the numbers have been estimated to be only one percent of actual events, as most are never reported. As of 7/9/21, VAERS reports 10,991 deaths in people after receiving a Covid experimental injection. And tinnitus has been widely reported as an adverse effect (5,442 events reported).

Tinnitus has also been reported as a side effect of having the Covid -19 disease. In fact, 40% of people who have had Covid, report their existing tinnitus got worse.

[stanley]

Tinnitus has also been reported as a side effect of having the Covid -19 disease. In fact, 40% of people who have had Covid, report their existing tinnitus got worse.

Tinnitus has also been reported as a side effect of the vaccine

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I've had tinnitus on and off my entire life. My new hearing aids have virtually eliminated the noise entirely. Huzzah for modern technology. And no thanks to either COVID-19 or the vaccine for it getting worse, since it was just as bad as it's been for years.

[coffeebean]

Boy that's a loaded question.

I know NOTHINK!

[Koapaka]

Wife had annual physical, ekg etc weeks prior to J&J vaccine her blood pressure as usual was a tad low, ekg was normal, she is now under the care of a cardiologist for high blood pressure.

Sorry to hear about your wife's reaction. Interestingly enough my 42 yr old niece caught COVID and now suffers from the same issues (HTN). She had never before suffered from any blood pressure issues until after she caught the virus. Now HUGE swings in her blood pressure.

[Bay Kid]

Just curious? Does anyone question where this virus started? God didn't create this. Who is responsible?

[Bill14564]

Just curious? Does anyone question where this virus started? God didn't create this. Who is responsible?

If you have the inside knowledge to say that God didn't create this then you must already know who did so why ask here?

This thread is about the after effects of the vaccine; you should start another thread to troll in.

[JMintzer]

Tinnitus has also been reported as a side effect of the vaccine

My tinnitus is a result of Jimmy Page and Led Zeppelin, back in '74...

[Tommyc6]

Sorry to hear about your wife's reaction. Interestingly enough my 42 yr old niece caught COVID and now suffers from the same issues (HTN). She had never before suffered from any blood pressure issues until after she caught the virus. Now HUGE swings in her blood pressure.

Just to be sure there’s no blockage causing her HB she had a cardiac catheter procedure done, no blockage we firmly believe it’s from the vaccine.

[Bay Kid]

If you have the inside knowledge to say that God didn't create this then you must already know who did so why ask here?

This thread is about the after effects of the vaccine; you should start another thread to troll in.

Sorry. I didn't know you were in charge. I talk with God everyday.

[Boomer]

Wife had annual physical, ekg etc weeks prior to J&J vaccine her blood pressure as usual was a tad low, ekg was normal, she is now under the care of a cardiologist for high blood pressure.


Just to be sure there’s no blockage causing her HB she had a cardiac catheter procedure done, no blockage we firmly believe it’s from the vaccine.


Tommyc6,

I am not a doctor, but if what I am about to say is totally off the wall, there are doctors on this site who will be glad to let me know if I am wrong.

A heart cath is a relatively, sort of, semi-big deal procedure, not usually used if high blood pressure is the only symptom. If there are other heart symptoms like some shortness of breath or a murmur, the doc would order an echo. An echo can look at heart valves. For some things, a Holter monitor might be ordered. But I am surprised at the heart cath for high bp only.

Although I have been vaccinated and believe that in the analysis of risk vs. benefit of the vaccine, benefit wins for almost all adults, I am not trying to be sarcastic. I am seriously trying to help with what I am about to write. . .

Sometimes hypertension shows up in times of stress or ongoing anxiety. For some people, it is only the systolic that elevates. It could be that being in a state of worry about having had the vaccine and perhaps even dwelling on the constant chaos that is created by our access to 24/7 media could actually be the culprit in new onset hypertension.

May I suggest a calming approach. Enjoy the liberation that the vaccine can provide. Turn off the screens — except for movies or series that are just for entertainment. Listen to music. Take a walk. Do things that are fun. Spend good time with each other.

The doc has probably prescribed at least one medicine and will monitor to see if a second one needs to be added. There probably has been the standard medical advice to try cutting back on salt — including and especially the high sodium that can be difficult to avoid in restaurant food, especially in chain restaurants.

The mind can affect blood pressure. As an example, I can be prone to “white coat syndrome.” My systolic blood pressure can hit the range of hypertension when taken at the beginning of a doctor-visit. I figured this out a long time ago and started asking for it to be taken again at the end of the visit — when it dropped. My bp will elevate before medical tests, too. Worrying about medical things can send me on a head-trip and elevate my bp. That is just a snapshot of me as a lab rat to illustrate how emotions can affect bp in just the short time of a doc visit or test. Your wife’s high bp is ongoing though, not just in the doc’s office, but it could also be indicating an emotional component, like anxiety, leading to ongoing stress.

Anyway, I hope you will help your wife to calm down about blaming the vaccine. If you are both looking for constant validation that the vaccine is to be blamed, you, of course, will find it because we live in a time where we can find some kind of validation for just about anything we have convinced ourselves to believe.

In addition to following the routine medical guidelines for the treatment of hypertension, you might need to step away from the chaos caused by the screens that can take up so much of people’s days and nights. The constant pounding of negative emotions is the stock-in-trade of those who are making a lot of money keeping Americans all wound up.

Please do everything the two of you can to come at this hypertension from every angle that is within your own control, in addition to medical treatment. Hypertension can feed on itself if emotions like anxiety are part of the cause. I wish her all the best.

Boomer

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[bgamble3]

No problems.
Disappointed at the overall low % vaccinated.


Trial lawyer Dr Reiner Fuellmich outlines the Covid crimes against humanity (https://www.bitchute.com/video/kZAHIhkF6GuQ/)

[CFrance]

Trial lawyer Dr Reiner Fuellmich outlines the Covid crimes against humanity (https://www.bitchute.com/video/kZAHIhkF6GuQ/)
As usual, there is another side of the story on this guy. Perhaps OBB knows more.


Reiner Fuellmich Fact Checked and Exposed as a Covid Conspiracy Con | Medika Life (https://medika.life/reiner-fuellmich-fact-checked-and-exposed-as-a-covid-conspiracy-con/)

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

As usual, there is another side of the story on this guy. Perhaps OBB knows more.


Reiner Fuellmich Fact Checked and Exposed as a Covid Conspiracy Con | Medika Life (https://medika.life/reiner-fuellmich-fact-checked-and-exposed-as-a-covid-conspiracy-con/)

So, going down the google rabbit hole, I find very little. Other than his youtube account, he seems to be absolutely no one. No one has ever heard of him. He's a ghost without even a wikipedia page or Linkdin account. He doesn't have a website for himself OR his business (which is supposedly under his own name) and there's nothing that provides his office phone number or hours of business. He claims to be a hugely successful trial lawyer who specializes in fraudulent corporations, and lists Volkswagen among those fraudulent corporations.

That should be the end of the conversation, actually. Volkswagon a fraudulent corporation? Really? Are you SURE? Because last I heard - they were - and still are - a successful legitimate corporation.

Supposedly he's held a legal practice in the USA "for the past 26 years now." He is one of four members of a group calling themselves the German Corona Investigative Committee, something Germany doesn't seem to have on record as even existing.

Most of his bios are identical from website to website, or borrow heavily from each other. In most, he's referred to as just a lawyer, but then there's that Dr. tossed in front of his name from time to time, with no explanation of where he received his doctorate, and what kind of doctorate it is.

No mention of his marital status, legal place of residence, net worth, or even a website to advertise for clients. He has no known physical office where he does business, that is published anywhere on the internet.

Pretty sure this is just some rando german conspiracy nutcase who posts videos on youtube. Oh and a few of his videos were removed by YouTube for violating their policies and standards.

[stanley]

Oh and a few of his videos were removed by YouTube for violating their policies and standards.

Yep......pretty much standard practice for youtube, facebook, twitter, et al....
removing stuff that violates their "terms of agreement".
Can't make this sh.t up!

[Bay Kid]

Yep......pretty much standard practice for youtube, facebook, twitter, et al....
removing stuff that violates their "terms of agreement".
Can't make this sh.t up!

Kind of like Germany in the past. Only say, think and listen to what I say.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Yep......pretty much standard practice for youtube, facebook, twitter, et al....
removing stuff that violates their "terms of agreement".
Can't make this sh.t up!

It is called capitalism..

[stanley]

It is called capitalism..

If you feel good calling it that,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Yep......pretty much standard practice for youtube, facebook, twitter, et al....
removing stuff that violates their "terms of agreement".
Can't make this sh.t up!

Standard practice for this forum too. You agreed to abide by it when you made your account.

If you don't like the rules of something you AGREED to obey, you have a couple of options:

You can try to petition for change...
You can accept that you'll continually be monitored, moderated, and/or kicked out of the community...
You can voluntarily leave the community.

Terms of service/terms of agreement are like deed restrictions.

The people in charge oversee the property - whether physical or in virtual cyberspace. They call the shots, and you agree to them doing so the moment you click the "I agree" button while creating your account.

It's THEIR business, not yours. They have every right to tell you to get lost if they don't like how you play in THEIR sandbox.

[stanley]

Standard practice for this forum too. You agreed to abide by it when you made your account.

If you don't like the rules of something you AGREED to obey, you have a couple of options:

You can try to petition for change...
You can accept that you'll continually be monitored, moderated, and/or kicked out of the community...
You can voluntarily leave the community.

Terms of service/terms of agreement are like deed restrictions.

The people in charge oversee the property - whether physical or in virtual cyberspace. They call the shots, and you agree to them doing so the moment you click the "I agree" button while creating your account.

It's THEIR business, not yours. They have every right to tell you to get lost if they don't like how you play in THEIR sandbox.

DUH! :ohdear: That's all well and good until they censor to give one sided information.
Just like the MSM who are the whores of.........................................

[PugMom]

Just curious? Does anyone question where this virus started? God didn't create this. Who is responsible?

i can only provide you with my own crackpot theory: virus was created in a lab doing bio-weapons research. since biowarfare is technically looked down upon, no one wants to confirm such activity. this is why so many countries, including ours, were involved in funding this lab. :boxing2:

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

DUH! :ohdear: That all well and good until they censor to give one sided information.
Just like the MSM who are the whores of.........................................

And again, you have the right to opt out at any time.

[stanley]

And again, you have the right to opt out at any time.

Again...DUH!

Keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer.

[drducat]

Asking a vaccinated person about the side effects from the covid jab is like asking a drunk if they did anything stupid the night before......

[drducat]

Since when is the government allowed to own patents???

Vaccine patent gives US ‘leverage’ over manufacturers




Several companies have licensed the ’070 patent for their vaccines and pay the US government royalties, including Germany’s BioNTech, which developed its Covid-19 jab with Pfizer. According to several observers, Moderna has not licensed the patent and the US government has not enforced its rights."


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[Bill14564]

Since when is the government allowed to own patents???

Vaccine patent gives US ‘leverage’ over manufacturers




Several companies have licensed the ’070 patent for their vaccines and pay the US government royalties, including Germany’s BioNTech, which developed its Covid-19 jab with Pfizer. According to several observers, Moderna has not licensed the patent and the US government has not enforced its rights."


Subscribe to read | Financial Times (https://www.ft.com/content/d0c70cc2-0ffa-42dd-b0d0-0f76eeb273f0)

Try this link (https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=Since+when+can+the+government+own+patents)

According to this Patent Office link (https://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/ac/ido/oeip/taf/govt/doc/doc_info_govt.htm), at least as early as 1969.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Kind of like Germany in the past. Only say, think and listen to what I say.

No, not at all like Germany of the "past". That was Fascism. This is CAPITALISM. Companies are not told what to do by the government now/here - in this case. Companies get to decide how they run themselves. You get to decide who you want to give your money to. Amazing system, too bad so many people, hate capitalism.

[GrumpyOldMan]

If you feel good calling it that,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

It's not me calling it that, that is the actual definition. Word does have actual meanings.

The government stepping in to tell a company runs itself is either socialism or fascism depending on how the government does it.

[stanley]

The government stepping in to tell a company runs itself is either socialism or fascism depending on how the government does it.

No you're getting it.

[Justus]

It is called capitalism..
It's not Capitalism...it's Restraint of Trade! And that is illegal! Sadly, not many of us are still extant who remember The Iron Curtain, and Radio Free Europe's brave attempts to get news and information to those millions of people behind it. Those people were starved of real facts and information by ruthless government control and censorship of all media. The only information that was allowed to reach its citizens was communist propaganda. As children, we donated our allowance moneys to Radio Free Europe, in order that our counterparts in communist countries could hear what was happening in the outside world!

That's what this country is headed for if the avenues of free speech are cut off by the MSM, in tandem and possibly in collusion with, biased internet monopolies. If the Federal Government is in any way complicit in this censorship, then it is also a clear violation of our First Amendment! As an aside...what are they all afraid of?

[Bill14564]

...

That's what this country is headed for if the avenues of free speech are cut off by the MSM, in tandem and possibly in collusion with, biased internet monopolies. If the Federal Government is in any way complicit in this censorship, then it is also a clear violation of our First Amendment! As an aside...what are they all afraid of?

They are afraid that many more people will die because they believed the conspiracy theories, anti-vaxxers and snake oil salesmen... and they are right.

Now, whether the correct response is to block and remove posts or simply label them as misinformation is another question.

[drducat]

Try this link (https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=Since+when+can+the+government+own+patents)

According to this Patent Office link (https://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/ac/ido/oeip/taf/govt/doc/doc_info_govt.htm), at least as early as 1969.

But............They don't follow this:faint:

"Under the Patent and Trademark Law Amendments Act of 1980 (commonly known as the Bayh-Dole Act), patents granted on inventions developed with the use of government funds can be exclusively licensed to promote their commercialization, but the government retains the ability to 'march in" if the patented technology is not made available to the public on reasonable terms."

[Justus]

They are afraid that many more people will die because they believed the conspiracy theories, anti-vaxxers and snake oil salesmen... and they are right.

Now, whether the correct response is to block and remove posts or simply label them as misinformation is another question.
How about, 'this is a free country and let people decide their own destinies'. There seems to be a lot of cognitive dissonance among "vaxxers" since significantly more negative information has come out about the vaccines. Certainly smells like fear. A year ago, I and other posters were attacked on this forum for suggesting we should reach a natural herd immunity. I still hold that belief, but it's a little late now...

[Bill14564]

How about, 'this is a free country and let people decide their own destinies'. There seems to be a lot of cognitive dissonance among "vaxxers" since significantly more negative information has come out about the vaccines. Certainly smells like fear. A year ago, I and other posters were attacked on this forum for suggesting we should reach a natural herd immunity. I still hold that belief, but it's a little late now...

Just what is this "significantly more negative information?"

Completely natural herd immunity is now impossible, of course, since 186+ million now have immunity by way of vaccination. However, there is still a ways to go, only a few hundred thousand more dead will get us there. How many are you and other posters willing to sacrifice?

[MrFlorida]

No effects yet, but that 3rd eye really helps me see much better.....