Vaccine Protection Failure

[Professor]

Just a word of caution to those who have been vaccinated. Turns out that some individuals (one of us personally learned this first hand) who have a compromised immune system, kidney disease, diabetes, or transplants and who have been vaccinated may not have generated antibodies to the Covid Vaccination.

Rheumatologist casually mentioned this during a routine exam, ran a Covid test (to see if we ever had Covid because if you have had it you naturally generate some antibodies) and then ran a Spike test. He was shocked when one of our Spike tests showed no antibodies had been generated by the vaccination. The one with no antibodies has an autoimmune disease.

We are back to wearing masks everywhere...

The worst part of this is most who had the vaccine assume they are now Ok and won't get extremely sick even if they get the virus...nothing could be further from the truth.

Just wanted to make folks aware of the potential issues...

[graciegirl]

Just a word of caution to those who have been vaccinated. Turns out that some individuals (one of us personally learned this first hand) who have a compromised immune system, kidney disease, diabetes, or transplants and who have been vaccinated may not have generated antibodies to the Covid Vaccination.

Rheumatologist casually mentioned this during a routine exam, ran a Covid test (to see if we ever had Covid because if you have had it you naturally generate some antibodies) and then ran a Spike test. He was shocked when one of our Spike tests showed no antibodies had been generated by the vaccination. The one with no antibodies has an autoimmune disease.

We are back to wearing masks everywhere...

The worst part of this is most who had the vaccine assume they are now Ok and won't get extremely sick even if they get the virus...nothing could be further from the truth.

Just wanted to make folks aware of the potential issues...


Here is an article on this. I personally think it is wise to get vaccinated and hope for the best. One could be seeing the results of the immune repressive medication. I am NOT a medical person, just a reader.
Covid vaccines may not protect people with immune disorders. NIH trial seeks answers. (https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/covid-vaccines-may-not-protect-people-immune-disorders-nih-trial-n1266886)

[golfing eagles]

Just a word of caution to those who have been vaccinated. Turns out that some individuals (one of us personally learned this first hand) who have a compromised immune system, kidney disease, diabetes, or transplants and who have been vaccinated may not have generated antibodies to the Covid Vaccination.

Rheumatologist casually mentioned this during a routine exam, ran a Covid test (to see if we ever had Covid because if you have had it you naturally generate some antibodies) and then ran a Spike test. He was shocked when one of our Spike tests showed no antibodies had been generated by the vaccination. The one with no antibodies has an autoimmune disease.

We are back to wearing masks everywhere...

The worst part of this is most who had the vaccine assume they are now Ok and won't get extremely sick even if they get the virus...nothing could be further from the truth.

Just wanted to make folks aware of the potential issues...

People who are immunocompromised and fail to mount an antibody response are the very rare exception, not the rule. So your warning is appreciated, but only applies to less than 0.1% of the population.

Also, if you are "back to wearing masks", I hope it is at least an N-95 or better, since the usual masks will afford you next to zero protection. You are much better off with social distancing to protect yourself.

Stay well.

[Becca9800]

Just a word of caution to those who have been vaccinated. Turns out that some individuals (one of us personally learned this first hand) who have a compromised immune system, kidney disease, diabetes, or transplants and who have been vaccinated may not have generated antibodies to the Covid Vaccination.

Rheumatologist casually mentioned this during a routine exam, ran a Covid test (to see if we ever had Covid because if you have had it you naturally generate some antibodies) and then ran a Spike test. He was shocked when one of our Spike tests showed no antibodies had been generated by the vaccination. The one with no antibodies has an autoimmune disease.

We are back to wearing masks everywhere...

The worst part of this is most who had the vaccine assume they are now Ok and won't get extremely sick even if they get the virus...nothing could be further from the truth.

Just wanted to make folks aware of the potential issues...

A member of this forum (I can't recall who it was but he is being treated for multiple myeloma) wrote recently that his oncologist warned him he likely had no antibodies following his vaccine because his chemotherapy suppressed his body's ability to form antibodies. My sister is being treated for same so I called her w a heads up. She, in turn, called her oncologist who confirmed that was likely the case. She was advised to limit contact w others, and when she did have contact, to wear a mask and keep her distance. My point, this info isn't out there for those that need to know about it. So thanks to Professor, and to the poster before him. THIS is the best use of ToTV.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Just a word of caution to those who have been vaccinated. Turns out that some individuals (one of us personally learned this first hand) who have a compromised immune system, kidney disease, diabetes, or transplants and who have been vaccinated may not have generated antibodies to the Covid Vaccination.

Rheumatologist casually mentioned this during a routine exam, ran a Covid test (to see if we ever had Covid because if you have had it you naturally generate some antibodies) and then ran a Spike test. He was shocked when one of our Spike tests showed no antibodies had been generated by the vaccination. The one with no antibodies has an autoimmune disease.

We are back to wearing masks everywhere...

The worst part of this is most who had the vaccine assume they are now Ok and won't get extremely sick even if they get the virus...nothing could be further from the truth.

Just wanted to make folks aware of the potential issues...

Another reason why it was SO important for MOST people to get vaccinated. But thanks to the refuseniks, the few who *can't* be vaccinated, and the people whose vaccines aren't as effective, are MORE prone to becoming the victims of the current wave of virus.

The more people who are vaccinated, the less likely ANYONE is to get sick. Little too late for people to realize this, now. Maybe next time there's a pandemic they'll remember.

[billethkid]

The "un-vaccinated pandemic" (call it what you will) is not a surprise.

It is/was inevitable.

[thelegges]

Another reason why it was SO important for MOST people to get vaccinated. But thanks to the refuseniks, the few who *can't* be vaccinated, and the people whose vaccines aren't as effective, are MORE prone to becoming the victims of the current wave of virus.

The more people who are vaccinated, the less likely ANYONE is to get sick. Little too late for people to realize this, now. Maybe next time there's a pandemic they'll remember.

Yep, blame those who are in Chemo, that the vaccine isn’t as effective.
They might be more worried about when the cancer starts to Mets.

But thanks for laying blame on those who have been diagnosed with cancer, and choose to Fight. So sorry their cancer has ruined your day, and made vaccine less effective.

[blueash]

Yep, blame those who are in Chemo, that the vaccine isn’t as effective.
They might be more worried about when the cancer starts to Mets.

But thanks for laying blame on those who have been diagnosed with cancer, and choose to Fight. So sorry their cancer has ruined your day, and made vaccine less effective.

That is exactly the complete opposite of what was written. Your furor is obstructing your reading comprehension. What was written was that those who are immune suppressed are victims of those who have refused to be vaccinated and are now the rats spreading the plague.

[Professor]

M95 is all we use and all we have ever used. While only a small percentage of individuals are impacted by this, when you are one of those impacted, it becomes a game changer. I would still advocate everyone getting vaccinated, but immune suppressed individuals probably need some additional testing after they are fully vaccinated to insure they have the immunity they would expect to have.

[Lindsyburnsy]

That’s not how I interpreted what was written. Better read it again.
Yep, blame those who are in Chemo, that the vaccine isn’t as effective.
They might be more worried about when the cancer starts to Mets.

But thanks for laying blame on those who have been diagnosed with cancer, and choose to Fight. So sorry their cancer has ruined your day, and made vaccine less effective.

[Velvet]

Please get vaccinated, if you’re like me, it will make you unexpectedly - happy.

[Villageswimmer]

Please get vaccinated, if you’re like me, it will make you unexpectedly - happy.

To whom is this directed? I think the OP has been vaccinated.

[Velvet]

To whom is this directed? I think the OP has been vaccinated.

Anybody who is hesitating to get vaccinated.

Personally, I find it gratifying to know that most fully vaccinated people don’t tend to infect those who can’t get an immune response. It’s like giving to charity but you get the bonus of feeling somewhat safer too. Win-win in my book.

[stadry]

dau #3 got vax'd 3 mos ago & recently test'd + nevertheless

[golfing eagles]

dau #3 got vax'd 3 mos ago & recently test'd + nevertheless

And I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night----what's your point? Is it that the vaccine is not 100% effective? Yes, that would be correct. Was she sick or just had a positive test?

Three of my neighbors, fully vaccinated were going on a trip, all 3 tested positive. They went to a different testing center and 2 tested neg, the other tested negative the next day. Given the CDC assertion that the breakthrough rate is 0.007%, 3/3 testing positive is a nearly impossible statistical anomaly, so I tend to think something is going on with the test in the vaccinated

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Yep, blame those who are in Chemo, that the vaccine isn’t as effective.
They might be more worried about when the cancer starts to Mets.

But thanks for laying blame on those who have been diagnosed with cancer, and choose to Fight. So sorry their cancer has ruined your day, and made vaccine less effective.

That is exactly the complete opposite of what was written. Your furor is obstructing your reading comprehension. What was written was that those who are immune suppressed are victims of those who have refused to be vaccinated and are now the rats spreading the plague.

Yeah that really confused the heck out of me. Thanks for explaining to this person what I said, which I thought was REALLY clear.

[Sabella]

Another reason why it was SO important for MOST people to get vaccinated. But thanks to the refuseniks, the few who *can't* be vaccinated, and the people whose vaccines aren't as effective, are MORE prone to becoming the victims of the current wave of virus.

The more people who are vaccinated, the less likely ANYONE is to get sick. Little too late for people to realize this, now. Maybe next time there's a pandemic they'll remember.

No one knows (doctors,scientists, geniuses) what the short or long term negative effects might or might not be to our health. Why didn’t the FDA approve the vaccines?

[MandoMan]

Just a word of caution to those who have been vaccinated. Turns out that some individuals (one of us personally learned this first hand) who have a compromised immune system, kidney disease, diabetes, or transplants and who have been vaccinated may not have generated antibodies to the Covid Vaccination.

Rheumatologist casually mentioned this during a routine exam, ran a Covid test (to see if we ever had Covid because if you have had it you naturally generate some antibodies) and then ran a Spike test. He was shocked when one of our Spike tests showed no antibodies had been generated by the vaccination. The one with no antibodies has an autoimmune disease.

We are back to wearing masks everywhere...

The worst part of this is most who had the vaccine assume they are now Ok and won't get extremely sick even if they get the virus...nothing could be further from the truth.

Just wanted to make folks aware of the potential issues...

The New York Times last month mentioned evidence that for these people, even if two vaccinations doesn’t do it, often three of the same vaccine will. The CDC is studying it. I would go for that.

[Rylee]

Somethings going on with the testing? SHOCKER!

[christine J Toft]

Saw the other day at a briefing, that vaccines don't necessarily show as the antibodies that would show had someone been previously infected. Apparently if you had Pfizer of Moderna the protection acts much differently than he actual infection does. Room for investigation?

[Girlcopper]

People who are immunocompromised and fail to mount an antibody response are the very rare exception, not the rule. So your warning is appreciated, but only applies to less than 0.1% of the population.

Also, if you are "back to wearing masks", I hope it is at least an N-95 or better, since the usual masks will afford you next to zero protection. You are much better off with social distancing to protect yourself.

Stay well.
True and I would think that those individuals with medical issues would have the sense to talk to their doctor about things and not just read articles or get info from a friend

[Bay Kid]

We have been lied to so much we don't know who to believe.

[Andyb]

Google Dr Mercola for more information about COVID and the vaccine.

[J1ceasar]

If you had read anything at all about vaccinations you would have known they are anywhere from 60 to 95% effective for the three that are commonly taken for covid. About a month ago after your vaccination you should have been tested for covid yourself. And he may decide to get another vaccination from a different Factory

[Vermilion Villager]

Yep, blame those who are in Chemo, that the vaccine isn’t as effective.
They might be more worried about when the cancer starts to Mets.

But thanks for laying blame on those who have been diagnosed with cancer, and choose to Fight. So sorry their cancer has ruined your day, and made vaccine less effective.
WOW!!!!! that's a stretch! Suggest you either read their post again, or get someone to read....and explain it to you.

[J1ceasar]

All vaccinations required long-term testing by the FDA these were allowed under emergency testing for distribution, about 30,000 people were actually vaccinated are we to the vaccines and it was allowed because there were so few negative problems and because the high effectiveness

[Wyseguy]

People who are immunocompromised and fail to mount an antibody response are the very rare exception, not the rule. So your warning is appreciated, but only applies to less than 0.1% of the population.

Also, if you are "back to wearing masks", I hope it is at least an N-95 or better, since the usual masks will afford you next to zero protection. You are much better off with social distancing to protect yourself.

Stay well.

Would you please reference where you got the 0.1% of the population figure. I was given the Johns Hopkins Study from June 2021 and it shows a significantly larger number. Thank You.

[Wyseguy]

We have been lied to by the CDC, WHO and our own government. For the real truth, watch this:Stay away from the vaxxed, it is official, from Pfizer's own documents | From the Trenches World Report (https://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/stay-away-from-the-vaxxed-it-is-official-from-pfizers-own-documents/285636)

Not sure what the link says (I will read it after work), but I am happy to see all views being posted.

[Lisanp@aol.com]

No one knows (doctors,scientists, geniuses) what the short or long term negative effects might or might not be to our health. Why didn’t the FDA approve the vaccines?

Because full "FDA approval" requires a 6-month safety study and last time I checked 6 months is still 180 days...the packet was submitted in May following the 6-month safety study, and it is now in an expedited priority FDA approval process.

FDA grants priority review to Pfizer/BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine; decision on approval expected by January 2022 - CNN (https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/16/health/pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-fda-priority-review/index.html)

[Byte1]

2021 0719 Monday @ 08:54

Third
Thanks to those few (?) who accept the many who have yet to receive a shot / the shots. I understand that the FDA has an EUA (emergency use authorization) for the shot regimen as it currently stands. I am waiting for full FDA approval. I am not among you now, but have visited as recently as a few months ago. I will return in August. I will wear a mask everywhere I go. I will avoid large gatherings. When the anticipated friendly residents address me, I will (try to) maintain my distance. I do not hide that I am not yet vaccinated.

Heaven forbid that anyone might remain who is college educated, wealthy, open-minded, law abiding, tax paying, home owning and endlessly curious about current events. No?

To those of you, like me, who await the full FDA approval, suck it (the negativity) up, keep your head up, stand firm, and listen to your head and heart. This will all pass, some day - or you will. :-)

Even though I have received my Covid inoculation, I do not attempt to encourage OR discourage others to do the same. I simply give my reasons for obtaining the shots and leave it up to others to do as their reasoning dictates. I do NOT get the FLU shot and have never had the flu. Lucky? I received my covid shots ONLY because of my concern for my spouse's medical condition--- not because of any concern for others. Just being truthful. I value my own life over strangers'. That said, if I was to encourage the vaccination and then it turned out to have permanent harmful secondary effects down the line, I would feel guilty. Also, if was to discourage getting the vaccination and they became ill, I would also feel guilty. That becomes a conundrum.
If you are scared, I understand. Don't let your fear influence others to make a potential life threatening decision.
There is nothing wrong with presenting the facts, but it is wrong to insist that one's opinion is FACT.
It is my OPINION that since I have about 20 years give or take an unknown amount of time, left on my life I will enjoy taking care of my spouse and attempt to give her as much time together as possible. I am not concerned about the long term effects of this vaccination. I doubt that if there are any, then it will probably not effect me in the time I have left. On the other hand, if it gives my spouse more time with me, then I take that vaccination along with her. That is my reasoning, and it has absolutely nothing to do with politics, education or wealth. Selfish? Maybe, but whether or not someone else feels I am right or wrong really does not concern me.
Something one needs to ponder: What would be the state of our country now, IF we did not have this vaccination?
On the other hand, if this virus effects children hardly at all, can we not wait to force the vaccination on them for a while to research the possible side effects (if any) that the serum has on us? Is there any reason to rush to get them vaccinated? If we have our vaccinations, the children should not be dangerous to us or anyone else vaccinated.

[DonnaNi4os]

My rheumatologist and oncologist both recommended that I continue to wear a mask in public despite being fully vaccinated. I am on an immunosuppressant due to lupus as well as tamoxifen for breast cancer treatment. I wear a mask in crowded indoor spaces. Hang in there. Pandemics typically take two full years to run their course. We are almost there but the next few months will continue to be rocky. It’s no time to let your guard down. To those of you who will reply with some snide comment, please know that I don’t care what you think. Youu do you and let others do what is best for themselves.

[blueash]

And I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night----what's your point? Is it that the vaccine is not 100% effective? Yes, that would be correct. Was she sick or just had a positive test?

Three of my neighbors, fully vaccinated were going on a trip, all 3 tested positive. They went to a different testing center and 2 tested neg, the other tested negative the next day. Given the CDC assertion that the breakthrough rate is 0.007%, 3/3 testing positive is a nearly impossible statistical anomaly, so I tend to think something is going on with the test in the vaccinated

Since May 1, before the delta variant took hold, the CDC is focusing on breakthrough cases (https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html) where the patient is hospitalized or dies. They are not asking for data from the states on positive PCR tests in symptom free or well persons. They have not, as far as I can find, made any comment or published any data on asymptomatic positive tests after full vaccination for the period after May 1. The CDC reported 10,262 positive test out of 101 million vaccinated persons [0.01%] reported up to May 1. They advise that this certainly is an undercount of breakthrough cases due to non-testing and under-reporting. Recent news items as well as your personal experience suggest that full vaccination is amazingly effective in preventing illness but it does not prevent subclinical infection. No vaccine prevents subclinical infection so this is not a surprise.

For the non-medical readers... When a virus enters your body either your immune system detects and destroys it, or your immune system does not detect or destroy. In the first situation you likely never have any symptoms but you WILL test positive during the event and for a period afterward as viral particles are present in your nose and throat.

[toeser]

Just a word of caution to those who have been vaccinated. Turns out that some individuals (one of us personally learned this first hand) who have a compromised immune system, kidney disease, diabetes, or transplants and who have been vaccinated may not have generated antibodies to the Covid Vaccination.

Rheumatologist casually mentioned this during a routine exam, ran a Covid test (to see if we ever had Covid because if you have had it you naturally generate some antibodies) and then ran a Spike test. He was shocked when one of our Spike tests showed no antibodies had been generated by the vaccination. The one with no antibodies has an autoimmune disease.

We are back to wearing masks everywhere...

The worst part of this is most who had the vaccine assume they are now Ok and won't get extremely sick even if they get the virus...nothing could be further from the truth.

Just wanted to make folks aware of the potential issues...

Get Respocare masks at Walmart. They actually have an FDA approval because the mask kills viruses.

[Spalumbos62]

Yep, blame those who are in Chemo, that the vaccine isn’t as effective.
They might be more worried about when the cancer starts to Mets.

But thanks for laying blame on those who have been diagnosed with cancer, and choose to Fight. So sorry their cancer has ruined your day, and made vaccine less effective.


I dont think that is what he was saying. To me, he was referencing the ones that refused a shot...not the ones that couldn't get it bc of medical issues, or did, and it was noneffective.
As much muck that is thrown back and forth on this site, I don't believe anyone would ever say
"Thanks allot you cancer filled people"....give me a break, and it, a rest!

[Spalumbos62]

This is really frightening. Frightening that some people actually believe this crap, and then promulgate it.


I don’t think we have been lied to. The vac, to be fda approved, would take more time than we had...did we take a risk.? Probably..but a much much smaller risk than getting/having covid.
Will it work for all....no, probably not....still a lessor risk. Do other vaccines flu shot, shingles vac work for those with autoimmune issues (I don't know).
Please stop saying you were lied to....info was given as it was discovered, this is new, ever changing, not all for the good.....but certainly better than chancing this disease. Folks, we have to start rolling with this, stop the propaganda and be happy if you can say you are still alive and covid free.

[lquinn3176]

Wow, had no idea. Thanks for info.

[Moderator]

Reminder...the thread is about the effectiveness of the vaccine on people who are immune-compromised. Please stay on topic.

Moderator

[stevekennedy3]

Look to the guy who invented the mRNA vaccine. When he tells you something is drastically wrong, you should listen. I can not post the link, but look up:
"mRNA Vaccine Inventor Sounds The Alarm… Something is Serious Wrong"

Then look up: :Dr. Mike Yeadon, former VP and Chief Science Officer of Pfizer and his presentation about what is true and what isn't about what we are being told. He is very highly credentialed and is telling us the truth. He is but one of hundreds of doctors now telling us the truth about this vaccine, what it does to us and the reasons behind it.

Then go and research on your own about the role of T cells in fighting viruses versus antibodies. Hint: Viruses are very tiny and get into your cells. Antibodies are large and do NOT get into your cells. It is your T cells (two mechanisms) that kill the virus. Do your own research to educate yourself while you can, BEFORE everything is censored. Dismiss this all out of hand and believe everything the corrupt WHO, CDC, Dr. Fauci, and all governments are spouting at your peril. Learn too about the dangers of the spike on the protein (especially from the widely respected SALK Institute) and what it does to your blood and the walls of your arteries and veins. The old adage: Caveat emptor has never been more timely.

[bob47]

I don’t think we have been lied to. The vac, to be fda approved, would take more time than we had...did we take a risk.? Probably..but a much much smaller risk than getting/having covid.
Will it work for all....no, probably not....still a lessor risk. Do other vaccines flu shot, shingles vac work for those with autoimmune issues (I don't know).
Please stop saying you were lied to....info was given as it was discovered, this is new, ever changing, not all for the good.....but certainly better than chancing this disease. Folks, we have to start rolling with this, stop the propaganda and be happy if you can say you are still alive and covid free.

Just to clarify, I'm not saying we've been lied to. What I say is crap is what you find if you follow the link to "From The Trenches World Report" which appears in post #28. The original post containing this link seems to be missing.

[unialimon]

Gates and Soros team up to buy Covid testing company for $41 Million

Now everyone will test positive.

[jimjamuser]

Another reason why it was SO important for MOST people to get vaccinated. But thanks to the refuseniks, the few who *can't* be vaccinated, and the people whose vaccines aren't as effective, are MORE prone to becoming the victims of the current wave of virus.

The more people who are vaccinated, the less likely ANYONE is to get sick. Little too late for people to realize this, now. Maybe next time there's a pandemic they'll remember.
Good post. The refuseniks are killing good people

[nick demis]

dau #3 got vax'd 3 mos ago & recently test'd + nevertheless

Are you aware that recent research has determined that you can test positive even if the covid cells in your body are dead? Brings up a whole new set of problems for policies.

[dougawhite]

Pandemics typically take two full years to run their course. We are almost there but the next few months will continue to be rocky.

FYI, The plague virus lasted for several hundred years...

[JMintzer]

True and I would think that those individuals with medical issues would have the sense to talk to their doctor about things and not just read articles or get info from a friend

One would certainly think that... But noooo, that's never the case... :icon_wink:

[JMintzer]

Would you please reference where you got the 0.1% of the population figure. I was given the Johns Hopkins Study from June 2021 and it shows a significantly larger number. Thank You.

It would be nice if you actually cited the study and or the "significantly larger number"...

[JMintzer]

My rheumatologist and oncologist both recommended that I continue to wear a mask in public despite being fully vaccinated. I am on an immunosuppressant due to lupus as well as tamoxifen for breast cancer treatment. I wear a mask in crowded indoor spaces. Hang in there. Pandemics typically take two full years to run their course. We are almost there but the next few months will continue to be rocky. It’s no time to let your guard down. To those of you who will reply with some snide comment, please know that I don’t care what you think. Youu do you and let others do what is best for themselves.

You are doing exactly what is medically prudent. Why would anyone complain about that?

Stay well...

[Swoop]

FYI, The plaque virus lasted for several hundred years...

But from a more relevant standpoint, the prior Covid viruses, MERS & SARS were prevalent for about two years.

[jimjamuser]

That is exactly the complete opposite of what was written. Your furor is obstructing your reading comprehension. What was written was that those who are immune suppressed are victims of those who have refused to be vaccinated and are now the rats spreading the plague.
That IS exactly how I read the original post, but I could NEVER have explained it as well as you did. Kudos!

[jimjamuser]

We have been lied to so much we don't know who to believe.
Personally, I have very little trouble finding sources that I can believe.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Personally, I have very little trouble finding sources that I can believe.

I agree, and one of the symptoms of truth-telling is providing verifiable quotes and explanations instead of insults and out-of-context inuendos.

[Altavia]

Just a word of caution to those who have been vaccinated. Turns out that some individuals (one of us personally learned this first hand) who have a compromised immune system, kidney disease, diabetes, or transplants and who have been vaccinated may not have generated antibodies to the Covid Vaccination.

Rheumatologist casually mentioned this during a routine exam, ran a Covid test (to see if we ever had Covid because if you have had it you naturally generate some antibodies) and then ran a Spike test. He was shocked when one of our Spike tests showed no antibodies had been generated by the vaccination. The one with no antibodies has an autoimmune disease.

We are back to wearing masks everywhere...

The worst part of this is most who had the vaccine assume they are now Ok and won't get extremely sick even if they get the virus...nothing could be further from the truth.

Just wanted to make folks aware of the potential issues...

Wishing you good health. Illustrates the importance of being vaccinated to help those who can not.

Have you talked to your Doc of there are therapy's available that could help?

[JMintzer]

Personally, I have very little trouble finding sources that I can believe.

You mean sources that justify your pre-conceived opinions?

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

No one knows (doctors,scientists, geniuses) what the short or long term negative effects might or might not be to our health. Why didn’t the FDA approve the vaccines?

1. We already know the short-term effects. The Pfizer and J&J vaccines have been in use (after their initial trials) since December 2020. The Moderna one since September 2020.
2. The FDA HAS approved them for use, currently for emergency use. They have more hoops to jump through before the FDA would give them regular approval, just like any drug.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Google Dr Mercola for more information about COVID and the vaccine.

Mercola is an alt-med conspiracy quack who sells supplements that don't do anything, for a premium, on his website. He's under criminal investigation for pushing his snake-oil to treat COVID-19.

Mercola.com, LLC - 607133 - 02/18/2021 | FDA (https://www.fda.gov/inspections-compliance-enforcement-and-criminal-investigations/warning-letters/mercolacom-llc-607133-02182021)

[Love2Swim]

M95 is all we use and all we have ever used. While only a small percentage of individuals are impacted by this, when you are one of those impacted, it becomes a game changer. I would still advocate everyone getting vaccinated, but immune suppressed individuals probably need some additional testing after they are fully vaccinated to insure they have the immunity they would expect to have.

Another point to consider, many of us have friends who may be immune suppressed and we want to avoid transmitting anything to them. We all need to be careful. Cases are going up again in Sumter County.. I personally know of at least one break through case here as well. The Delta variant is VERY contagious, and we as older people are more susceptible. I just don't understand why people are still refusing to get vaccinated if they are able.

[DAVES]

Just a word of caution to those who have been vaccinated. Turns out that some individuals (one of us personally learned this first hand) who have a compromised immune system, kidney disease, diabetes, or transplants and who have been vaccinated may not have generated antibodies to the Covid Vaccination.

Rheumatologist casually mentioned this during a routine exam, ran a Covid test (to see if we ever had Covid because if you have had it you naturally generate some antibodies) and then ran a Spike test. He was shocked when one of our Spike tests showed no antibodies had been generated by the vaccination. The one with no antibodies has an autoimmune disease.

We are back to wearing masks everywhere...

The worst part of this is most who had the vaccine assume they are now Ok and won't get extremely sick even if they get the virus...nothing could be further from the truth.

Just wanted to make folks aware of the potential issues...

NOTHING is as perfect as we demand, we expect. As far as masks etc. It has been roughly a year and a half. We are all getting more sloppy-including me Think of a diet. They all work.Most lose weight and then put it back on plus more. Reason is truly simple people do not have the will power to stay on it

[jimjamuser]

Mercola is an alt-med conspiracy quack who sells supplements that don't do anything, for a premium, on his website. He's under criminal investigation for pushing his snake-oil to treat COVID-19.

Mercola.com, LLC - 607133 - 02/18/2021 | FDA (https://www.fda.gov/inspections-compliance-enforcement-and-criminal-investigations/warning-letters/mercolacom-llc-607133-02182021)
Good post. Thanks for clearing that up.

[Byte1]

Good post. The refuseniks are killing good people

Not true.

[Bill14564]

Another reason why it was SO important for MOST people to get vaccinated. But thanks to the refuseniks, the few who *can't* be vaccinated, and the people whose vaccines aren't as effective, are MORE prone to becoming the victims of the current wave of virus.

The more people who are vaccinated, the less likely ANYONE is to get sick. Little too late for people to realize this, now. Maybe next time there's a pandemic they'll remember.

Good post. The refuseniks are killing good people

Not true.

None of the approximately 1500 people that died last week were good people?

None of the 58,000 who tested positive yesterday and the probably 200-500 of them who will die in the next couple of weeks are good people?

Those that are coming down with COVID are contracting it from somewhere other than an infected, unvaccinated individual?

[tvbound]

It's hard not to wonder how many current anti-vaxxers would have already died, without receiving childhood vaccinations against highly contagious diseases like the measles, mumps, chicken pox, polio, Etc.? Given the ever increasing population and the speed in which we can intermingle globally, those diseases would spread a lot faster today than they did before 'mostly' being eradicated. I read one report that estimated that about 42,000 of the 4.1 million children born in the USA every year, would have died without our robust mandatory vaccination program (for kids in public schools at least). Not to even mention the direct and indirect costs, of a lack of immunizations. I also shake my head at those whose opposition to the Covid vaccine is predicated on "I don't put what I don't know, in my body," yet are obese and can't even pronounce a lot of the ingredients - in the fast/junk food they constantly consume. I won't hold my breath for a 'hypocrisy vaccine' anytime soon though. lol

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

It's hard not to wonder how many current anti-vaxxers would have already died, without receiving childhood vaccinations against highly contagious diseases like the measles, mumps, chicken pox, polio, Etc.? Given the ever increasing population and the speed in which we can intermingle globally, those diseases would spread a lot faster today than they did before 'mostly' being eradicated. I read one report that estimated that about 42,000 of the 4.1 million children born in the USA every year, would have died without our robust mandatory vaccination program (for kids in public schools at least). Not to even mention the direct and indirect costs, of a lack of immunizations. I also shake my head at those whose opposition to the Covid vaccine is predicated on "I don't put what I don't know, in my body," yet are obese and can't even pronounce a lot of the ingredients - in the fast/junk food they constantly consume. I won't hold my breath for a 'hypocrisy vaccine' anytime soon though. lol

Hypocrisy is popular among refuseniks. I don't put what I don't know in my body - by the way we're having lunch at the country club - hot dog special today.

They reject this vaccine, but aren't mad at their parents for forcing them to have the smallpox vaccine, or the MMR, or DPT/TDaP when they were little kids.

But go figure - we live in a community that refuses to fluoridate the water. And look at how many thriving dental offices are in the area. No surprise there.

[Swoop]

It's hard not to wonder how many current anti-vaxxers would have already died, without receiving childhood vaccinations against highly contagious diseases like the measles, mumps, chicken pox, polio, Etc.? Given the ever increasing population and the speed in which we can intermingle globally, those diseases would spread a lot faster today than they did before 'mostly' being eradicated. I read one report that estimated that about 42,000 of the 4.1 million children born in the USA every year, would have died without our robust mandatory vaccination program (for kids in public schools at least). Not to even mention the direct and indirect costs, of a lack of immunizations. I also shake my head at those whose opposition to the Covid vaccine is predicated on "I don't put what I don't know, in my body," yet are obese and can't even pronounce a lot of the ingredients - in the fast/junk food they constantly consume. I won't hold my breath for a 'hypocrisy vaccine' anytime soon though. lol
I’m not an anti-vaxxer, I recently had my second shingles shot, but I haven’t had the Covid vaccine. By the way, I do care very much about what I put into my body, my BMI is under 24. There is a huge difference between being anti-vax and refusing a vaccine with an unknown track record.