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kpd3062
07-22-2021, 11:03 AM
So I live in a newer Village. Neighbors have been collecting to purchase some AED’s. One of my neighbors said in his last Village he was one of the “Captain’s “ I think they are called. I asked how often the AED’s were used and he said never to his knowledge. I was wondering if there are statistics on how often they are used in TV and the success rates? Thanks

retiredguy123
07-22-2021, 11:07 AM
For those who don't know what this thread is about, AED is an acronym for Automated External Defibrillators.

Papa_lecki
07-22-2021, 11:58 AM
I would guess there’s no data on how often they are used in TV. I found this conclusion from an NIH study (conclusion is 10 years old).

Survival After Application of Automatic External Defibrillators Before Arrival of the Emergency Medical System (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3008654/)

“Application of an AED in communities is associated with nearly a doubling of survival after out-of-hospital cardiac arrest. These results reinforce the importance of strategically expanding community-based AED programs.“

In a region with residents the age of Villagers, I would think an AED is a welcome addition to a Village.

FromAus
07-22-2021, 12:10 PM
They are definitely used. In the 1st 4 months of the year there were 71 Cardiac Arrests, 25 responses by neighbors.

Goldwingnut
07-22-2021, 12:40 PM
Ideally, I think we would all love for them to rot in their boxes and never need to be used, sadly, that's not likely to be the case in our community.

Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.

DAVES
07-22-2021, 12:53 PM
Like most things there will be a spun reality. With a heart attack time is or can be the difference between life and death.

We were approached by neighbors to contribute and we did. The pitch was if they got too much they would credit us back. They did get too much rather than issue refunds they bought two of them. More recently they were shaking us down for replacement batteries. As I recall from my internet research they are $400 each so $800 for the two in our small section.

Are they faster than EMT-emergency medical from the fire dept? Will the be in the way while struggling to find the key to the locked post. Will the EMT slow their response knowing that we have not one but two defibrillators close by. Are our well meaning amateurs able to diagnose accidental poisoning, drug overdose etc?

Nothing is ever perfect yet we expect demand that it is.

Bill14564
07-22-2021, 01:18 PM
Like most things there will be a spun reality. With a heart attack time is or can be the difference between life and death.

We were approached by neighbors to contribute and we did. The pitch was if they got too much they would credit us back. They did get too much rather than issue refunds they bought two of them. More recently they were shaking us down for replacement batteries. As I recall from my internet research they are $400 each so $800 for the two in our small section.

Are they faster than EMT-emergency medical from the fire dept? Will the be in the way while struggling to find the key to the locked post. Will the EMT slow their response knowing that we have not one but two defibrillators close by. Are our well meaning amateurs able to diagnose accidental poisoning, drug overdose etc?

Nothing is ever perfect yet we expect demand that it is.

In some cases they will be faster and in others they will not. They are purchased for the cases where they will be faster.

Why in the world would you lock the AED? You want this to be available in an instant to whoever happens to be there. Locking them up and waiting for a key makes them far less useful. EDIT: Because these have been stolen in the past and because it seems Florida law requires AED and CPR training before someone is allowed to use one.

Will the EMT slow their response? Would the EMT like to see his name on the front page of the paper in the article about a death that occurred when the response was slowed?

The well-meaning amateurs don't need to diagnose anything. The "A" in AED takes care of diagnosing whether a shock is necessary.

Stu from NYC
07-22-2021, 03:37 PM
Like most things there will be a spun reality. With a heart attack time is or can be the difference between life and death.

We were approached by neighbors to contribute and we did. The pitch was if they got too much they would credit us back. They did get too much rather than issue refunds they bought two of them. More recently they were shaking us down for replacement batteries. As I recall from my internet research they are $400 each so $800 for the two in our small section.

Are they faster than EMT-emergency medical from the fire dept? Will the be in the way while struggling to find the key to the locked post. Will the EMT slow their response knowing that we have not one but two defibrillators close by. Are our well meaning amateurs able to diagnose accidental poisoning, drug overdose etc?

Nothing is ever perfect yet we expect demand that it is.

I would think they are under lock and key to make sure only trained people can have access to them. They do get some amount of training in when and how to use them in the case of an emergency.

valuemkt
07-22-2021, 03:59 PM
Villages safety gives a very good presentation on acquisition, use and training. I've never collected a penny from all the dollars Ive spent on car insurance, but still carry way more than the minimum. And thats for a piece of metal and plastic. Given the horror stories of EMS response, having a trained volunteer force and the equipment to use an AED in a time critical situation to save a life is something to be applauded, not pencil whipped

Blueblaze
07-22-2021, 05:49 PM
Going from memory here, but the Sun had a recent story that talked about AED's, and I believe they said you have a 60% chance of surviving a heart attack in the Villages, but only 40% elsewhere, largely due to the AED's and the fact that your neighbors who are trained to use them get the 911 call the same time the ambulance does.

Our neighborhood recently took up a collection to replace some of ours that were expiring. The $5 they were asking seemed like awfully cheap heart attack insurance to me. I didn't even realize we had them. What an amazing place to live! Can anyone imagine their neighborhood back home doing this?

DAVES
07-22-2021, 06:13 PM
Going from memory here, but the Sun had a recent story that talked about AED's, and I believe they said you have a 60% chance of surviving a heart attack in the Villages, but only 40% elsewhere, largely due to the AED's and the fact that your neighbors who are trained to use them get the 911 call the same time the ambulance does.

Our neighborhood recently took up a collection to replace some of ours that were expiring. The $5 they were asking seemed like awfully cheap heart attack insurance to me. I didn't even realize we had them. What an amazing place to live! Can anyone imagine their neighborhood back home doing this?

As I've stated thing are often spun. As far as Villagers being more likely to survive a heart attack it may have nothing to do with AED's. Younger people are far less likely to survive a heart attack than older people.

As far as $5.00 the batteries are $400. We have two, at least one more than we might need. We were asked for and paid far more than $5.00.

juneroses
07-22-2021, 07:22 PM
The 7-18-21 article in The Daily Sun stated that the cardiac save rate in The Villages is 40% compared to 10% nationally.

jswirs
07-23-2021, 05:17 AM
For those who don't know what this thread is about, AED is an acronym for Automated External Defibrillators.
Thanks, I did not know.

Girlcopper
07-23-2021, 05:24 AM
Like most things there will be a spun reality. With a heart attack time is or can be the difference between life and death.

We were approached by neighbors to contribute and we did. The pitch was if they got too much they would credit us back. They did get too much rather than issue refunds they bought two of them. More recently they were shaking us down for replacement batteries. As I recall from my internet research they are $400 each so $800 for the two in our small section.

Are they faster than EMT-emergency medical from the fire dept? Will the be in the way while struggling to find the key to the locked post. Will the EMT slow their response knowing that we have not one but two defibrillators close by. Are our well meaning amateurs able to diagnose accidental poisoning, drug overdose etc?

Nothing is ever perfect yet we expect demand that it is.
Of course theyre faster than waiting for an EMT. And you cant seriously think an EMT will drive slower because you have access to an AED

Annie66
07-23-2021, 05:45 AM
My wife and I are AED/CPR responders having been trained here in TVs by the local CERT. First of all, the AEDs are locked because they are expensive and subject to being pilfered. Each responder has a key to the lock, so worrying if we can find a key is unfounded. With enough responders in an area, the call-out process is to head to the address, and once sufficient responders arrive, one or more go to the AED site and retrieve the equipment just to have it on site if needed.

I believe the latest data shows that here in TVs, responders arrive on site within 3-4 minutes of notification and fire dept and/or EMS in 5-6 minutes. First responders receive the callout via phone call, text message and email. Enough means that I personally believe we will get the emergency notification in a timely manner, day or night.

Every minute where a patient is not treated, they loose roughly 10% probability of survival. Enough reason not only to support your local group financially, but to become a local AED/CPR responder.

Mlogan22@tampabay.rr.com
07-23-2021, 05:57 AM
We have CYV in Allendale, Village of Duval. How does one find out who the key keeper is? My husband has a bad heart.

crash
07-23-2021, 06:18 AM
So I live in a newer Village. Neighbors have been collecting to purchase some AED’s. One of my neighbors said in his last Village he was one of the “Captain’s “ I think they are called. I asked how often the AED’s were used and he said never to his knowledge. I was wondering if there are statistics on how often they are used in TV and the success rates? Thanks

Yes they are used and their are over 400 of them in the Villages. You can contact Lieutenant Longacre at the fire department he oversees the AED program and can provide those numbers for you.

Or better yet the fire department is having an open house on August 2nd at station 44 on 3035 Morse blvd. I believe 1-4.

J1ceasar
07-23-2021, 06:20 AM
Consider that the ambulances take one full hour to respond to most emergencies in most of the villages and you surely better Need aeds

J1ceasar
07-23-2021, 06:23 AM
Training is available during the year and just like CPR and first aid you should consider it a duty to attend one of them even if you're not the person doing it yourself you can certainly help and be aware of the knowledge you gained

DrRick614
07-23-2021, 06:38 AM
Former surgeon and advanced cardiac life support instructor here. Out of hospital CPR has a very poor survival rate. With an AED, the survival rate increases exponentially ! We are blessed that we have so many volunteers here in TV that are willing to respond to a neighbor in need. Just another reason why living in “the bubble” is so great!

bruce213
07-23-2021, 06:39 AM
In the village of La Belle north we have 600+ homes and average 2 AED alerts a year.

Paula
07-23-2021, 06:50 AM
Our area has 3 AEDs. Each is locked for security. Ours use combination locks. No key or hunting for a key required. AED training is provided by TV fire department for those who want to be first responders. When a heart related 911 call comes in, the responders are automatically notified - land line call, mobile call, text. They also do a monthly notification test. It is an excellent program that hopefully will be used very sparingly.

barbnick
07-23-2021, 06:51 AM
Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

Dana1963
07-23-2021, 06:53 AM
So I live in a newer Village. Neighbors have been collecting to purchase some AED’s. One of my neighbors said in his last Village he was one of the “Captain’s “ I think they are called. I asked how often the AED’s were used and he said never to his knowledge. I was wondering if there are statistics on how often they are used in TV and the success rates? Thanks
I hope they never need to be used.

M2inOR
07-23-2021, 07:18 AM
I am the coordinator for our neighborhood of about 100 homes in Marsh Bend. We have two, and are secured with combination locks.

We have a team of trained responders. I collected funds to purchase and install them, pay for replacement batteries in 4 years, replacement of pads after use, and pay for the alert system that notifies responders when there is a cardiac event.

We collected enough for more than 4 years of costs and alert memberships.

We are all trained, and will have periodic refresher training. We also hope to be there when needed, but don't mind if we are never needed.

Our neighborhood was easy - almost all contributed.

The way it works:
- home or family member calls 911 for response
- 911 dispatch determines location and whether this is a cardiac event where an AED would be helpful
- Emergency Services is dispatched AND EeadyAlert is notified. ReadyAlert checks their database and issues a voice and/or text alert to the responders closest to AED group.

Our group pays an annual fee to ReadyAlert for that dispatch service.

Indydealmaker
07-23-2021, 07:19 AM
Please read post #4.

Dilligas
07-23-2021, 07:23 AM
In some cases they will be faster and in others they will not. They are purchased for the cases where they will be faster.

Why in the world would you lock the AED? You want this to be available in an instant to whoever happens to be there. Locking them up and waiting for a key makes them far less useful. EDIT: Because these have been stolen in the past and because it seems Florida law requires AED and CPR training before someone is allowed to use one.

Will the EMT slow their response? Would the EMT like to see his name on the front page of the paper in the article about a death that occurred when the response was slowed?

The well-meaning amateurs don't need to diagnose anything. The "A" in AED takes care of diagnosing whether a shock is necessary.
They are under lock and key because in this world they are valuable and could be stolen (not necessarily by TV residents). There are usually 2 or more depending on coverage range. In our area, response time by AED crew is less than 2 minutes, and EMT is 4-6 minutes. If the AED is not needed, it will tell the user, however, CPR is begun immediately upon arrival (nearby responder will go directly to the patient while one of the other responders who pass the AED stands gets the unit). Our neighbor area of about 130 homes has 12-15 trained responders (depending on time of year) each with key to lock. We had about 80-90% who donated and new move-ins add to that. TV AED groups and systems are being studied and copied nation wide. It is well worth it…..as is insurance….hoping you never need the service.

Dan9871
07-23-2021, 07:34 AM
Consider that the ambulances take one full hour to respond to most emergencies in most of the villages and you surely better Need aeds

I have had to call for an Ambulance for my wife many times here in The Villages. The EMT's always have arrived in less than 10 minutes, usually 5 for 6. The ambulance takes longer, about 20 minutes.

Where did you get your info that it takes an hour?

Kevin Knussman
07-23-2021, 07:39 AM
When I moved into The Villages last year I was approached by my neighbors to join the Neighbors Helping Neighbors (NHN) response program. As a paramedic moving from a Maryland county with an aggressive AED program, I was beyond mildly interested and took the required training program through the PSD as soon as it was available. Let me give you the information as I view it.
Various villages have AEDs purchased by the residents of that particular village. According to the last report issued by TV PSD there are 249 AED groups with a total of 649 AEDs in service. The program has over 4700 volunteer neighborhood responders that are trained in CPR and AED use.
The report states that there were a total of 87 cardiac arrests reported in The Villages during the first six months of 2021. Thirty-four were located in areas with active neighborhood responders. The AEDs were placed on patients four times.
Those are the latest statistics that I have.
Why such a low placement ratio? I suspect that much of the time NHN responders find a person is obviously dead and not a candidate for CPR, or TVPSD arrived prior to deployment of the AED. First responder might arrive before or simultaneously with NHN responders. Please allow me to explain further...
When a 911 call is placed and a cardiac arrest reported NHN responders get a automated phone call and text sending them to the address where the emergency is located. Some responders may respond directly to the address and begin CPR while others will retrieve an AED and take it to the location.
We have an incredibly fast response from PSD and allied agencies. A cardiac arrest will result in multiple units being dispatched. Occasionally the closest unit/s are already on another response resulting in a potential delay.
NHN responders may initiate CPR and deploy the AED, if appropriate, prior to arrival of first responders. NHN volunteers may also continue to assist in CPR and other support functions until there are an adequate number of first responders at the patient side engaged in care.
Sudden cardiac arrest response with CPR and an AED is critical. It has been reported that the chance of survival goes down 10% every minute after arrest, but the chance of a good outcome is really front loaded in the first five minutes.
Once the electrical activity in the heart has deteriorated and the chemistry of the cells degrade the opportunity to restore a pulse with a shock is eliminated.
Paramedics can give drugs with the hope of stimulating a shockable heart rhythm but it is a dire situation.
However, with immediate CPR, and if a heart is shocked back into a circulating rhythm the patient has a good chance of a positive outcome. The patient can be transported to a hospital capable of emergent placement of a cardiac stent to restore circulation to the area of the heart beyond the blockage.
Please note, not all cardiac arrest are a result of a blockage. Some are the result of other medical issues such as respiratory arrest from an overdose, or an electrocution. These emergencies also benefit from immediate CPR and AED deployment. Cardiac care has seen revolutionary developments over the last decade with spectacular improvements in patient quality of life.
The Villages has a model program and is nationally recognized. There were seven new neighborhoods added to the program in the last six months. Reported cardiac arrest "save" rates are around 40%. Compare that to less than 10% in other communities across the country.
Contributions to the program are completely voluntary, but may save your life or the life of someone close to you. It is completely your choice to contribute, but it will be appreciated by your neighbors, some of which will respond to your cardiac arrest if it happens!
I hope this better explains the importance of having a well organized team to respond to sudden cardiac arrest in our community.
Kevin Knussman, Paramedic
Village of Briar Meadow
Easton, Maryland

nn0wheremann
07-23-2021, 08:00 AM
So I live in a newer Village. Neighbors have been collecting to purchase some AED’s. One of my neighbors said in his last Village he was one of the “Captain’s “ I think they are called. I asked how often the AED’s were used and he said never to his knowledge. I was wondering if there are statistics on how often they are used in TV and the success rates? Thanks
Don’t worry about your heart. It will beat for as long as you live. —W. C. Fields. Community sponsored AEDs are a good, inexpensive insurance policy. You are fortunate to live an an AED sponsoring community. Cough up the cash, and count your blessings.

KRMACK55
07-23-2021, 08:19 AM
My wife and I are AED/CPR responders having been trained here in TVs by the local CERT. First of all, the AEDs are locked because they are expensive and subject to being pilfered. Each responder has a key to the lock, so worrying if we can find a key is unfounded. With enough responders in an area, the call-out process is to head to the address, and once sufficient responders arrive, one or more go to the AED site and retrieve the equipment just to have it on site if needed.

I believe the latest data shows that here in TVs, responders arrive on site within 3-4 minutes of notification and fire dept and/or EMS in 5-6 minutes. First responders receive the callout via phone call, text message and email. Enough means that I personally believe we will get the emergency notification in a timely manner, day or night.

Every minute where a patient is not treated, they loose roughly 10% probability of survival. Enough reason not only to support your local group financially, but to become a local AED/CPR responder.
The numbers you quote come from where ? Have you seen in the villages news about disasters in response time and it was north of 44. You lose not loose.

Libandana
07-23-2021, 08:54 AM
First time replying…I’m coordinator of Labelle South..156 homes, 3 AEDs, 20 responders, 2 alternates (alternates step in when active responder is unable to participate..vacation, surgery recovery etc)
We asked 100.00 per home 2 years ago in the hopes we could obtain at least 1; our neighborhood evidently saw the value in this program to the tune of 131 home contribution. The initial idea, per Fire house suggestion, was to have enough money to purchase, have pad and battery replacement and Ready alert money in the coffers for 4 years. Unless something major happens…theft etc..we should have enough money we will not have to “beg” our neighbors for nearly 8 years.
This is potentially a program to help save a life of you as a villager and ANY one visiting your home..children, grandkids, renters, visitors etc.
I personally believe that’s an extremely nominal amount for a more than decent possibility I/we can help save your life. I also personally believe if you are NOT interested in participating money wise to our or any other community our people will still ride to your rescue! Those who are responders are extremely passionate about this; we’ll be there for you and will step aside when EMS arrives

cherylncliff
07-23-2021, 09:09 AM
So I live in a newer Village. Neighbors have been collecting to purchase some AED’s. One of my neighbors said in his last Village he was one of the “Captain’s “ I think they are called. I asked how often the AED’s were used and he said never to his knowledge. I was wondering if there are statistics on how often they are used in TV and the success rates? Thanks

A community AED (and the trained users to go with it) is like insurance. You hope you will never need it but you want to be prepared in case you do. We have had ours for about 6 years and have had three call outs in that time period. Two were already too late, one was resuscitated but died later.

gdennis317
07-23-2021, 09:12 AM
Like most things there will be a spun reality. With a heart attack time is or can be the difference between life and death.

We were approached by neighbors to contribute and we did. The pitch was if they got too much they would credit us back. They did get too much rather than issue refunds they bought two of them. More recently they were shaking us down for replacement batteries. As I recall from my internet research they are $400 each so $800 for the two in our small section.
Are they faster than EMT-emergency medical from the fire dept? Will the be in the way while struggling to find the key to the locked post. Will the EMT slow their response knowing that we have not one but two defibrillators close by. Are our well meaning amateurs able to diagnose accidental poisoning, drug overdose etc?

Nothing is ever perfect yet we expect demand that it is.


You may want to acquire a little knowledge of how the system works before speaking.

All responders have to go through a training and certification process. There is a complete protocol of action steps. First folks go straight to home to start CPR, next folks bring AED, an next clear path and watch for EMS.
You have six minutes where CPR must be started or you are brain damaged or worse. CPR keeps you alive until AED or EMS arrive.

Boxes have simple combination locks in our area, easy to open but secured from theft. Our Village has about 12 boxes scattered throughout the neighborhood.

Responders are dispatched via phone and Text by 911 operations only AFTER they have determined it is a Cardiac Arrest( your heart has stopped!). No AED alert goes out for Chest Pain or other Heart Attack symptoms, as the AED is not for Heart Attack, it is for Cardiac Arrest. Most certainly not alerted for anything else you mentioned unless that caused the persons heart to stop.

Response time for first arrivals in our neighborhood is three minutes or less, and yes there have been successes.

Annie66
07-23-2021, 09:13 AM
The numbers you quote come from where ? Have you seen in the villages news about disasters in response time and it was north of 44. You lose not loose.

Just attended the Resident Academy and the fire chief quoted those numbers. He is a big proponent of the AED program.

Marathon Man
07-23-2021, 09:34 AM
The numbers you quote come from where ? Have you seen in the villages news about disasters in response time and it was north of 44. You lose not loose.

Just attended the Resident Academy and the fire chief quoted those numbers. He is a big proponent of the AED program.

:boom:

Windguy
07-23-2021, 10:52 AM
We have CYV in Allendale, Village of Duval. How does one find out who the key keeper is? My husband has a bad heart.
To be honest, you don’t need to know. You won’t be given access to the AED unless you join the team and are trained.

CALL 911 FIRST! Not your neighbors.

911 will notify the neighborhood responders.

Our neighborhood has four AEDs. We have had only one cardiac arrest and the FD actually got there first. We live just a mile from the FD, but they may be off on another call, so we need the AED program. It’s cheap insurance.

Red Rose
07-23-2021, 11:06 AM
AEDS are only as good as the response time of a "captain". There are usually more than 1 in a neighborhood, I'd course. There is an AED in our neighborhood, but since those people who organized and collected the money for it have moved away several years ago, who knows who is in charge or if there are any volunteer "captains" around anymore or if the defibrillator is attached to that house anymore. We have had a lot of turnover in our neighborhood through the years, so I'm pretty sure everything fell by the wayside. Big waste of money in our situation.

Carole clausen
07-23-2021, 11:34 AM
Support your neighbor AED program, the life you save may be your own

justjim
07-23-2021, 11:48 AM
In the Village of LaBelle North they have been used several times. A great asset to any Village. You won’t get a 100% response for donations (about 70-75% is average but everybody is helped whether they donate to the cause or not.

davem4616
07-23-2021, 12:10 PM
The AED Coordinators (i.e. the captains) started receiving statistics on the number of 911 calls made that involved a cardiac arrest about six months ago.

The numbers are very low....like in the area of a half dozen a month across the entire Villages (isn't that great!!!). The numbers aren't overwhelming. In fact in many of the months the 911 call doesn't involve always end up transporting anyone to the hospital
...isn't that great !!!

Some people question why bother to help support an AED Group....well minutes count when you stop breathing....AED responders usually arrive on site 3 to 4 minutes before the EMTs do and begin applying CPR and the AED unit....that greatly reduces the potential of severe damage to the brain.

We've had our AED units up for almost 2 years...they only time they come out of the boxes is when we run a drill and monthly when the batteries are checked.

It's an expense I'm okay paying and not having to use....just like auto insurance or homeowners insurance

davem4616
07-23-2021, 12:14 PM
AEDS are only as good as the response time of a "captain". There are usually more than 1 in a neighborhood, I'd course. There is an AED in our neighborhood, but since those people who organized and collected the money for it have moved away several years ago, who knows who is in charge or if there are any volunteer "captains" around anymore or if the defibrillator is attached to that house anymore. We have had a lot of turnover in our neighborhood through the years, so I'm pretty sure everything fell by the wayside. Big waste of money in our situation.


Sounds like this may be an opportunity for you to step up and get involved...

call Bob Sjogren at Public Safety (352.674.2934) he'll be able to tell you if you have an active coordinator for the group you belong to, if there are any people trained in CPR and how you can get trained in CPR

the life you save may be your own, your spouses, or even folks visiting you....

JC and John
07-23-2021, 12:17 PM
I would think they are under lock and key to make sure only trained people can have access to them. They do get some amount of training in when and how to use them in the case of an emergency.
Yes, and each trained volunteer has a key to the box. We have 5 boxes in our area of Sanibel. My husband is a volunteer. Every other Monday he gets a test alert from Sumter Co emergency to ensure the system is operational etc.

Blueblaze
07-23-2021, 12:26 PM
The 7-18-21 article in The Daily Sun stated that the cardiac save rate in The Villages is 40% compared to 10% nationally.

So four times better than the national number, instead of just 1.5, like I remembered. Thanks for the correction. Too bad living here isn't improving my memory!

Velvet
07-23-2021, 12:38 PM
Never had a heart attack or a stroke but I feel quite comforted that there is an AED available near me. Like insurance I hope never to need it, but glad to have it just in case. In our village we paid $50 each home, some time ago. Only once. The volunteers who can use it won’t take any payment.

DotComMom
07-23-2021, 03:21 PM
I am the coordinator for our neighborhood of about 100 homes in Marsh Bend. We have two, and are secured with combination locks.

We have a team of trained responders. I collected funds to purchase and install them, pay for replacement batteries in 4 years, replacement of pads after use, and pay for the alert system that notifies responders when there is a cardiac event.

We collected enough for more than 4 years of costs and alert memberships.

We are all trained, and will have periodic refresher training. We also hope to be there when needed, but don't mind if we are never needed.

Our neighborhood was easy - almost all contributed.

The way it works:
- home or family member calls 911 for response
- 911 dispatch determines location and whether this is a cardiac event where an AED would be helpful
- Emergency Services is dispatched AND EeadyAlert is notified. ReadyAlert checks their database and issues a voice and/or text alert to the responders closest to AED group.

Our group pays an annual fee to ReadyAlert for that dispatch service.

I am thrilled that TV offers this amazing service but shocked to learn that they are not provided by TV and that the volunteers are asked to continually fundraise for them.

Velvet
07-23-2021, 04:05 PM
Who in TV is supposed to provide this service and how would it be paid for, and by whom? Just curious what you had in mind.

Kevin Knussman
07-23-2021, 06:22 PM
AEDS are only as good as the response time of a "captain". There are usually more than 1 in a neighborhood, I'd course. There is an AED in our neighborhood, but since those people who organized and collected the money for it have moved away several years ago, who knows who is in charge or if there are any volunteer "captains" around anymore or if the defibrillator is attached to that house anymore. We have had a lot of turnover in our neighborhood through the years, so I'm pretty sure everything fell by the wayside. Big waste of money in our situation.

Please become informed about how the system works in response to cardiac arrest in our community. The captain is only a coordinator. All volunteer responders are equally qualified and trained. If you have AEDs located in your village there are active providers also available there. Maybe you would like to volunteer and help your neighbors?

DaleDivine
07-23-2021, 09:11 PM
Who in TV is supposed to provide this service and how would it be paid for, and by whom? Just curious what you had in mind.

Ummmm, the Morse family? They would jus tack on another $500 from the sale of homes. Otherwise if it came out of their pockets, that ain't happening.
It would be a win win situation as far as people buying homes and this is mentioned as a bonus move in factor.
:coolsmiley::pray:

Papa_lecki
07-23-2021, 09:25 PM
Ummmm, the Morse family? They would jus tack on another $500 from the sale of homes. Otherwise if it came out of their pockets, that ain't happening.
It would be a win win situation as far as people buying homes and this is mentioned as a bonus move in factor.
:coolsmiley::pray:

Because they struggled selling homes for the last 25 years

rogerk
07-23-2021, 11:09 PM
They ARE USED. Many lives have been saved. The VPSD has the amazing statistics and the person asking for the donation should be able to share that data with you.

A neighborhood AED with a a team of trained and qualified responders is worth every penny you and your neighbors invest. Learn more, you may even want to get involved yourself.

rogerk
07-23-2021, 11:11 PM
Gross exaggeration of response time for an emergency response.

dave from deland
07-24-2021, 05:01 PM
So I live in a newer Village. Neighbors have been collecting to purchase some AED’s. One of my neighbors said in his last Village he was one of the “Captain’s “ I think they are called. I asked how often the AED’s were used and he said never to his knowledge. I was wondering if there are statistics on how often they are used in TV and the success rates? ThanksFor information, all Community Watch patrol vehicles are equipped with AED's.