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duffysmom
07-28-2021, 03:44 PM
Laurel Manor Texas Hold’Em on Friday's 12:30 and Saturday and Sunday at 5:30 will now be $10.00 per game.

All are welcome, new player's can sit and watch or play to learn the game from experienced players.

villagetinker
07-28-2021, 04:35 PM
I did not think gambling was allowed in the Rec Centers.

retiredguy123
07-28-2021, 05:02 PM
I did not think gambling was allowed in the Rec Centers.
The rec center guidelines state that,

"In accordance with Florida State Law, Gambling, except as authorized by FSL, is
strictly prohibited."

However, Florida law does permit penny ante card games and says that,

"Florida limits home card games to penny antes only, but they must also limit their pot sizes to a $10 maximum."

So, I think the OP's game is legal. My opinion.

villagetinker
07-28-2021, 07:19 PM
The rec center guidelines state that,

"In accordance with Florida State Law, Gambling, except as authorized by FSL, is
strictly prohibited."

However, Florida law does permit penny ante card games and says that,

"Florida limits home card games to penny antes only, but they must also limit their pot sizes to a $10 maximum."

So, I think the OP's game is legal. My opinion.

I took to original message as $10 per person, I still think the Villages does not allow gambling, and I may very be wrong.

Babubhat
07-29-2021, 06:44 AM
Allowable if meets the criteria. Code Section

849.01 et seq.; 550.001, et. seq.

Penny-ante games with winnings not exceeding $10 permitted, including poker, pinochle, bridge, dominoes, and mahjongg, if conducted by adults

PennBF
07-29-2021, 07:30 AM
The games, as played in the rec centers has been fully investigated by a couple of attorney's and concluded they meet the various laws in the State of Florida. It would take some time to explain in detail the surrounding basis for them meeting Florida standards however this has been raised a few times and in each case the games met Florida's Statues/laws.:popcorn:

Topspinmo
07-29-2021, 08:09 AM
IMO Wouldn’t any tournament you enter and have pay fee be considered gambling? I don’t see any different than bingo game, golf tournament, pool tournament, card game club/tournament or any other game you pay fee to enter to play. No different s than playing lottery scratch offs (course the odds of winning slim to none) You pay and take chance to win. Now if it was underworld numbers game, dice game or roulette where game can be loaded different story IMO.

DaddyD
07-29-2021, 12:59 PM
I don't own in TV so not eligible to play, but if anyone knows of or has a home game & is looking for players, please message me.

Yes, I know that there is a poker room at Oxford Downs, but I don't enjoy playing there.

GrumpyOldMan
07-29-2021, 01:58 PM
IMO Wouldn’t any tournament you enter and have pay fee be considered gambling? I don’t see any different than bingo game, golf tournament, pool tournament, card game club/tournament or any other game you pay fee to enter to play. No different s than playing lottery scratch offs (course the odds of winning slim to none) You pay and take chance to win. Now if it was underworld numbers game, dice game or roulette where game can be loaded different story IMO.

Are there cash prizes for winning bingo, golf or other pay to enter tournaments? I am seriously, I don't do any of those, so I don't know.

retiredguy123
07-29-2021, 02:01 PM
Are there cash prizes for winning bingo, golf or other pay to enter tournaments? I am seriously, I don't do any of those, so I don't know.
Yes, many of the events have cash prizes.

Topspinmo
07-29-2021, 04:40 PM
Are there cash prizes for winning bingo, golf or other pay to enter tournaments? I am seriously, I don't do any of those, so I don't know.


Yes.

TSO/ISPF
07-29-2021, 06:52 PM
And you can chew CBD gummies while holding aces. Make it all legal for pete's sake. :icon_wink: Are we adults? Know when to holdem.

J1ceasar
07-30-2021, 05:00 AM
Hello, I have a home game in Pennbrooke Fairways, we play every other Wednesday, next game is the 11th. It's a friendly game. We play assorted poker games including Texas hold'em but not just Texas hold'em. We play seven card five card Omaha and a lot of community games to keep it interesting. Most games are high low so there's a split pot and it's a friendly game from 6:00 to 11:00 p.m. the stakes are 25/50 cents , 3 raise maximum.
If you'd like to try it it is a lot of fun I've been playing for about 5 years with mostly the same people. Dealer puts in the pot. The only rules are no Jokers no wild cards no check raising to keep it fun. No smoking in my house of course and please bring your own liquid drinks whether it's Soda or beer it's okay.
Jules r.
352 4591464 text me first
j1ceasar@yahoo.com
Jules

giorgio1948
07-30-2021, 07:13 AM
I don't own in TV so not eligible to play, but if anyone knows of or has a home game & is looking for players, please message me.

Yes, I know that there is a poker room at Oxford Downs, but I don't enjoy playing there.

Why don't you enjoy playing there?:shocked:

kappy
07-30-2021, 07:29 AM
Allowable if meets the criteria. Code Section

849.01 et seq.; 550.001, et. seq.

Penny-ante games with winnings not exceeding $10 permitted, including poker, pinochle, bridge, dominoes, and mahjongg, if conducted by adults
There are two Tournament Gin Rummy games where the entry fee is only $5. One is at Colony Cottage on Monday at 5:20 and the other is on Wednesday at Truman Recreation Center at 11:20. Lots of fun with friendly Gin Rummy players.

Waltdisney4life
07-30-2021, 07:45 AM
Would you like some cheese with that whine? Another example of some miserable person trying to tell others how they should live my life like and be just as miserable as them!

nhtexasrn
07-30-2021, 08:07 AM
I took to original message as $10 per person, I still think the Villages does not allow gambling, and I may very be wrong.

Isn't it the state of Florida that makes the laws and not The Villages?

nick demis
07-30-2021, 10:49 AM
IMO Wouldn’t any tournament you enter and have pay fee be considered gambling? I don’t see any different than bingo game, golf tournament, pool tournament, card game club/tournament or any other game you pay fee to enter to play. No different s than playing lottery scratch offs (course the odds of winning slim to none) You pay and take chance to win. Now if it was underworld numbers game, dice game or roulette where game can be loaded different story IMO.

Hey, what's your problem with craps. Best game in the casino. LOL

ROCKMUP
07-30-2021, 10:56 AM
Would you like some cheese with that whine? Another example of some miserable person trying to tell others how they should live my life like and be just as miserable as them!

This is an odd forum. I quoted someone yesterday and asked why they'd be posting in a thread about something they didn't even like.

My post got deleted. lol

DaddyD
07-30-2021, 12:36 PM
Why don't you enjoy playing there?:shocked:

Due to the 10% rake up to (I think) $5 on every hand, plus the $2 they take from every hand for the high hand promotions, plus dealer tip, in my opinion the low limit games that I play are (in the long run) unbeatable.

Assume the average rake per hand dealt is $4, plus $2 they take for the high hand promotion, plus another $1 for dealer tip, that's $7 per hand. If a dealer is able to deal 30 hands per hour (a reasonable assumption) that means that $210 is being taken off the table each and every hour you play, regardless of whether you are winning or losing against the other players.

I understand that I am gambling and I am OK with losing money. However, I'm not OK with being virtually guaranteed to lose money due to an excessive rake. I know lots of players really like the high hand promotions, but mathematically-speaking, it is a bad deal for players.

At least in Vegas and most other casinos, poker players earn comps based upon the total # of hours they play, as well as free drinks and often free food as well.

At Oxford Downs, they don't even offer players free water, soft drinks, or coffee! How much does a cup of coffee or a soft drink cost management--five or ten cents a cup?? That's just beyond cheap! And if the reason they don't offer free drinks is because they are forbidden by Florida State law to offer free drinks, that's fine, but they could sell drinks for a nickel or $0.25 or whatever. Same for cheap hot dogs, etc..

But unfortunately they don't have any competition in the area, so they don't have to.

kappy
07-30-2021, 01:22 PM
There is no rake at any of The Villages Hold’em or Gin Rummy Games. All proceeds are distributed among the many winners.

Babubhat
07-30-2021, 02:04 PM
Low limit game players at Oxford are only there to win the promotions. Otherwise the rakes will crush you. The pots you win will be too small to overcome it

valuemkt
07-30-2021, 09:12 PM
Due to the 10% rake up to (I think) $5 on every hand, plus the $2 they take from every hand for the high hand promotions, plus dealer tip, in my opinion the low limit games that I play are (in the long run) unbeatable.

Assume the average rake per hand dealt is $4, plus $2 they take for the high hand promotion, plus another $1 for dealer tip, that's $7 per hand. If a dealer is able to deal 30 hands per hour (a reasonable assumption) that means that $210 is being taken off the table each and every hour you play, regardless of whether you are winning or losing against the other players.

I understand that I am gambling and I am OK with losing money. However, I'm not OK with being virtually guaranteed to lose money due to an excessive rake. I know lots of players really like the high hand promotions, but mathematically-speaking, it is a bad deal for players.

At least in Vegas and most other casinos, poker players earn comps based upon the total # of hours they play, as well as free drinks and often free food as well.

At Oxford Downs, they don't even offer players free water, soft drinks, or coffee! How much does a cup of coffee or a soft drink cost management--five or ten cents a cup?? That's just beyond cheap! And if the reason they don't offer free drinks is because they are forbidden by Florida State law to offer free drinks, that's fine, but they could sell drinks for a nickel or $0.25 or whatever. Same for cheap hot dogs, etc..

But unfortunately they don't have any competition in the area, so they don't have to.

Most Poker rooms in Vegas offer little to no comps. Unlike slots, roulette, craps etc, there is little house edge .. so something called a rake exists to pay for the dealers, the room etc. Poker is close to the least profitable game in the house. Most Indian run casinos in Florida (perhaps all) do not offer free drinks. Oxford runs a professional game. Cash and tournaments have a portion of either pots or entry fees that go to the house. Thats life. Very little difference if you travel to tampa to play at Seminole.

Its unfortunate that the OP raised an age old can or worms by trying to promote what must be his . hers penny ante Village game. Poker players in the Villages know where games are, and certainly dont need to go through another round of grief raised by gambling trolls. Bunko, Pokeno, Bingo and many other games in the Villages push small amounts of money around in the spirit of fun and camaraderie. Poker games do the same. There is no house rake, there is a maximum amount of money you can "lose", which in ALL the players opinions is nominal.

I would "wager" that there is more money exchanged on the golf courses than there is in all of the table games played in the rec centers. Let adults choose their pastimes and enjoy life. Thanks again OP for a very misplaced post.

DaddyD
07-31-2021, 02:50 PM
There is no rake at any of The Villages Hold’em or Gin Rummy Games. All proceeds are distributed among the many winners.

yes, but as I wrote earlier, I don't own in The Villages and therefore not eligible to participate in games played in various Rec Centers. But just a friendly edit to your comment--for every winner there has to be a loser.

DaddyD
07-31-2021, 02:59 PM
Most Poker rooms in Vegas offer little to no comps Admittedly it's been a few years since I was last in Vegas, but what I was last there several did offer a few dollars per hour in food comps, and ALL offered free drinks. I'd love to hear your reasoning behind why it's entirely reasonable for Oxford Downs to charge for coffee, soft drinks, and water. Sure, it's a private business and they're entitled to run it anyway they want, but I'd hardly consider that customer-friendly. They are raking $200+ per hour off of each table, and they can't afford to give players a free cup of coffee or a soft drink?

It's unfortunate that the OP raised an age old can or worms by trying to promote what must be his . hers penny ante Village game.

What's wrong with OPs post? He/she plays in or organizes a low limit game in a local rec center and are looking for players, what's the problem with that?

Poker players in the Villages know where games are. If you're referring to games run anywhere else besides Oxford Downs that's not true. I'm a poker player and I don't know of any good home games in the area.

I would "wager" that there is more money exchanged on the golf courses than there is in all of the table games played in the rec centers. Let adults choose their pastimes and enjoy life. Thanks again OP for a very misplaced post. I agree with everything you wrote in the last paragraph except the last sentence.

DaddyD
07-31-2021, 03:04 PM
Low limit game players at Oxford are only there to win the promotions. Otherwise the rakes will crush you. The pots you win will be too small to overcome it

100% agreed.

Topspinmo
07-31-2021, 03:43 PM
Hey, what's your problem with craps. Best game in the casino. LOL

No problem unless there loaded. :)

Topspinmo
07-31-2021, 03:55 PM
I did not think gambling was allowed in the Rec Centers.

As long as it’s consider tournament I think it’s not considered casino gambling where you can’t loose you’re shirt in one game? :) Year or so ago there was couple 100 dollar entry fee 9 ball pool tournaments. Usually they run 10 bucks or so? I think that’s how the many bingo games around villages are allow?

Doug R
10-14-2021, 05:26 PM
Laurel Manor Texas Hold’Em on Friday's 12:30 and Saturday and Sunday at 5:30 will now be $10.00 per game.

All are welcome, new player's can sit and watch or play to learn the game from experienced players.

Is this still going on? I’ll swing by tomorrow to see (and hopefully play).

charlieo1126@gmail.com
10-14-2021, 07:42 PM
IMO Wouldn’t any tournament you enter and have pay fee be considered gambling? I don’t see any different than bingo game, golf tournament, pool tournament, card game club/tournament or any other game you pay fee to enter to play. No different s than playing lottery scratch offs (course the odds of winning slim to none) You pay and take chance to win. Now if it was underworld numbers game, dice game or roulette where game can be loaded different story IMO. I play in 3 or 4 illegal dice games , 3 are in the Orlando area and another west of here in the country , I can tell you I trust the dice as well or even better then Vegas , because there always appears to be many well armed participants including the guys running the games who would not be happy with cheating lol, Go Bucs Go Dodgers

frose
10-15-2021, 06:10 AM
This is what concerns people here. A bunch of people having a good time playing cards. Lighten up. Have fun. This place really does suck. Can’t wait to get out

Babubhat
10-15-2021, 08:11 AM
One more for the block list

charlieo1126@gmail.com
10-15-2021, 09:01 AM
One poster mentioned that there are no good poker games in the area well you would be wrong ,there are some very good games here and in the surrounding area , with people on a wait list , I only like the dice so I don’t play . But people MYOB if you don’t want to play or it’s a sin leave other people to there vices whether big or small , do any of you think football is so popular because of game only , do you think I’m watching the end of a game when some team has no chance of winning , do you think I want to watch a couple of more minutes of ads when game is out of reach for one team , I’m watching because of the point spread ONLY