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jimmio
07-29-2021, 12:36 PM
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This should clear it up. Straight out of the contradicting leader of the Covid fight, Dr. Fauci.

Boffin
07-29-2021, 01:18 PM
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patfla06
07-29-2021, 01:22 PM
I am still wearing a mask even though I’ve been vaccinated.
I stayed healthy doing so.

I do not listen to one word Fauci says.

Reiver
07-29-2021, 02:34 PM
What? Parachutes stop Covid? I gotta get me one.

lkagele
07-29-2021, 03:18 PM
I am still wearing a mask even though I’ve been vaccinated.
I stayed healthy doing so.

I do not listen to one word Fauci says.

I haven't worn a mask since I've been vaccinated.

I stayed healthy doing so.

I too don't listen to one word Fauci says and the CDC for that matter.

John41
07-29-2021, 03:28 PM
I haven't worn a mask since I've been vaccinated.

I stayed healthy doing so.

I too don't listen to one word Fauci says and the CDC for that matter.

There was an interesting op ed in the NYT about the misinformation spread by Fauci. I’m vaxed so will believe the science that I’m protected and not wear a mask. A mask increases the carbon dioxide level in your system.

JoelJohnson
07-29-2021, 03:53 PM
I could not join the military, but my wife and I got our shots to protect each other and our friends that refuse the vaccine. If you were in the military and do not get the vaccine then are you not willing to protect your fellow Americans like you were when you were in the military?

Mortal1
07-29-2021, 04:43 PM
I could not join the military, but my wife and I got our shots to protect each other and our friends that refuse the vaccine. If you were in the military and do not get the vaccine then are you not willing to protect your fellow Americans like you were when you were in the military?

I joined voluntarily knowing they would inject me with all sorts of stuff. Since I am not any longer I have a choice. To say I wouldn't protect other Americans if I don't get the vaccine makes no sense since if you are afraid of getting the virus from those who haven't been vaccinated then just get vaccinated.

camaguey48
07-29-2021, 04:48 PM
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This should clear it up. Straight out of the contradicting leader of the Covid fight, Dr. Fauci.
No mask for me. I have the antibodies.

Mortal1
07-29-2021, 04:50 PM
I am still wearing a mask even though I’ve been vaccinated.
I stayed healthy doing so.

I do not listen to one word Fauci says.

because you continue to wear a mask you'll never know if it has protected you in any way. There are many people who use their version of common sense. You've stayed healthy because of the vaccine...not the mask.

How do you explain the 10's of millions who have neither been vaccinated and don't wear a mask and still don't get sick????

I haven't had a flu shot in over 50 years and yet I haven't gotten the flu in all that time. I left New England over 8 years ago and while I used to get 2 or 3 colds a year I've yet to have one here in Florida. Please explain.

jimbomaybe
07-29-2021, 05:02 PM
I hope they don't go back to "lock down" I like going out to dinner once and a while!

CoachKandSportsguy
07-29-2021, 05:30 PM
lets just say that the number of hospitalizations of people with the covid vaccine is higher than people generally believe because of lack of currently reported information. . . and yes, we have access to medical center information. . . we are vaccinated, and will wear a mask because:

we are not taking the risk of long covid, as its an unknown risk
we are not taking the risk so that we don't infect our < 1 year old nephews and <6 year grandchildren,
so that they don't risk get long covid. . . or any other unpredictable side effect

but all you posters with interwebs medical degrees know . . . covid started as a virus and has mutated to an IQ test

sportsguy

OrangeBlossomBaby
07-29-2021, 05:50 PM
I'm fully vaccinated, AND I'm fine with getting another booster of the Pfizer if it ends up being recommended by the CDC.

I wore a mask for over a year partly because it was required, and partly because Dr. Fauci suggested that it would reduce the risk, and his explanation made sense.

I'll go back to wearing a mask if required, but I'm not interested in protecting people who COULD be vaccinated, but refuse. If I'm in a place where a mask is NOT required, then I won't mask up. And if you refused to get vaccinated and worry you might get COVID, then stay home.

If you WANT to be vaccinated but are medically unable, just let me know and I'll gladly put the mask back on to help protect you. I keep one in my purse.

davem4616
07-29-2021, 08:47 PM
I no longer trust that my government is telling me the whole truth and nothing but the truth without any bias or hidden agenda

GrumpyOldMan
07-29-2021, 08:50 PM
I joined voluntarily knowing they would inject me with all sorts of stuff. Since I am not any longer I have a choice. To say I wouldn't protect other Americans if I don't get the vaccine makes no sense since if you are afraid of getting the virus from those who haven't been vaccinated then just get vaccinated.

It makes a lot of sense. Those who are not vaccinated are putting everyone else at risk because of mutations/variants that they will contribute when they get the virus. No, not 100% will, but some. And the more unvaccinated there are the more mutations there are and the more mutations there are the more people will die.

it is NOT a personal choice.

GrumpyOldMan
07-29-2021, 08:51 PM
I no longer trust that my government is telling me the whole truth and nothing but the truth without any bias or hidden agenda

So?

lkagele
07-29-2021, 10:52 PM
It makes a lot of sense. Those who are not vaccinated are putting everyone else at risk because of mutations/variants that they will contribute when they get the virus. No, not 100% will, but some. And the more unvaccinated there are the more mutations there are and the more mutations there are the more people will die.

it is NOT a personal choice.

Yes, it IS a personal choice. My body, my choice. That's what they say about abortion. Why doesn't that apply to the vaccine? I have no problem with your continued mask usage. Just don't try to impose your beliefs in that regard on me.

Aren't the variants originating in other countries? The Delta variant is more transmissible yet less deadly. That's typically how virus mutations work. Since I've been vaccinated and have some level of immunity, I'm not concerned about catching some future variation of this COVID. The risk is comparable to the risk I have catching the flu or the common cold.

Considering the # of citizens that have contracted the virus and have natural immunity plus the # that have been vaccinated; the US has to have the highest % of citizens that have some level of immunity. No data to back this up but I suspect the original flu was probably much more deadly that it is today. Eventually, populations developed immunities making the subsequent variations much less deadly. That's what is going to happen with COVID. I know this because I stayed in a Holiday Inn last week.......

thevillages2013
07-30-2021, 05:10 AM
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This should clear it up. Straight out of the contradicting leader of the Covid fight, Dr. Fauci.
I feel that I am being oppressed by being asked to wear a mask! End oppression!

Blackbird45
07-30-2021, 05:51 AM
When I was 17 and in boot camp for about 4 weeks someone in our barracks died from spinal meningitis. Over night we were isolated every time we left the barracks the camp looked like a ghost town. As dumb as I was then, that was a wakeup call. I'm fully vaccinated and if wearing a rag other my face gives me 1% more protection I will do so. Not to mention my 6 year old grandson is coming to visit in 2 weeks, there is no way I want to put him in danger of contracting this.

golfing eagles
07-30-2021, 05:56 AM
When I was 17 and in boot camp for about 4 weeks someone in our barracks died from spinal meningitis. Over night we were isolated every time we left the barracks the camp looked like a ghost town. As dumb as I was then, that was a wakeup call. I'm fully vaccinated and if wearing a rag other my face gives me 1% more protection I will do so. Not to mention my 6 year old grandson is coming to visit in 2 weeks, there is no way I want to put him in danger of contracting this.

That "rag" on your face probably affords you zero additional protection since you were vaccinated, but it could save your unvaccinated grandson's life. I applaud your decision:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow:

WesMan
07-30-2021, 06:03 AM
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This should clear it up. Straight out of the contradicting leader of the Covid fight, Dr. Fauci.
Flip-Flopper!!!!!!!!!

tklloop
07-30-2021, 06:12 AM
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This should clear it up. Straight out of the contradicting leader of the Covid fight, Dr. Fauci.
Yeah,, get your REAL facts from Facebook! Some people just aren’t the sharpest knife in the drawer!

Bay Kid
07-30-2021, 06:15 AM
Fauci is the reason but no investigation.

bilcon
07-30-2021, 06:36 AM
We were going on a Celebrity cruise to Europe in September, and were just notified that we must wear masks on the ship except when eating, drinking or in our cabin. We must also wear masks when on tours. No thanks. Good bye cruise. We will wait. We both have had Covid-19 and since then have been vaccinated.

Ptmckiou
07-30-2021, 06:40 AM
I feel that I am being oppressed by being asked to wear a mask! End oppression!

How YOU feel is under your control. No one can make you feel anything, but you. Don’t want to feel oppressed, then stop feeling oppressed. Mask or no mask. It’s just that simple. Just change your perspective.

frank1975
07-30-2021, 06:52 AM
Here’s a shocker! If vaccinated you can still stay healthy NOT wearing a mask

Lazydaze
07-30-2021, 06:56 AM
So much of this taken out of context....ridiculous posting!

Proveone
07-30-2021, 07:12 AM
LAME! So you are using Facebook to try to make a point about face mask use. Sad! What you failed to do is show Dr. Fauci's comments based on what times during the pandemic. The existence of the variant and people not getting the vaccine has changed everything about when and wear to use a mask. Stop getting your info from fake sources!

You have no credibility.

Get real
07-30-2021, 07:18 AM
So?

So?

Blackbird45
07-30-2021, 07:23 AM
Some people portray Fauci as a hero and some as a villain, he just a man grabbing a straws trying to save lives. I believe if anyone of us were in his position we would be doing the same. My only question for him is at his age and I’m sure he has enough money, why is he putting up with this nonsense.

Bob.Betty
07-30-2021, 07:34 AM
I have not been vaccinated (and will not) I do not wear a mask (and will not) I am very healthy 65 yr old who simply beleives it is your choice.

Spalumbos62
07-30-2021, 07:35 AM
because you continue to wear a mask you'll never know if it has protected you in any way. There are many people who use their version of common sense. You've stayed healthy because of the vaccine...not the mask.

How do you explain the 10's of millions who have neither been vaccinated and don't wear a mask and still don't get sick????

I haven't had a flu shot in over 50 years and yet I haven't gotten the flu in all that time. I left New England over 8 years ago and while I used to get 2 or 3 colds a year I've yet to have one here in Florida. Please explain.


The info on the news seems to go back and forth about requiring the mask. Soooo many people especially in Southern states are getting it, yes, mostly nonvaxed. I predict that they will go back to mandatory mask very,very soon and hopefully mandatory vac. It's a shame that wasn't done months ago, and we wouldn't be in this mess.
I truly believe the surge in cases and quickness of spread has taken the CDC by surprise. And not only are they back pedaling, they are very concerned it is getting out of control.
So, great for those who have vexed, not good for others and hopefully everyone will wear a mask, for that extra layer.

Eg_cruz
07-30-2021, 07:37 AM
No mask for me. I have the antibodies.
Again how did you get the antibodies

Spalumbos62
07-30-2021, 07:38 AM
Yes, it IS a personal choice. My body, my choice. That's what they say about abortion. Why doesn't that apply to the vaccine? I have no problem with your continued mask usage. Just don't try to impose your beliefs in that regard on me.

Aren't the variants originating in other countries? The Delta variant is more transmissible yet less deadly. That's typically how virus mutations work. Since I've been vaccinated and have some level of immunity, I'm not concerned about catching some future variation of this COVID. The risk is comparable to the risk I have catching the flu or the common cold.

Considering the # of citizens that have contracted the virus and have natural immunity plus the # that have been vaccinated; the US has to have the highest % of citizens that have some level of immunity. No data to back this up but I suspect the original flu was probably much more deadly that it is today. Eventually, populations developed immunities making the subsequent variations much less deadly. That's what is going to happen with COVID. I know this because I stayed in a Holiday Inn last week.......


People like you are making the undertakers rich!

ThirdOfFive
07-30-2021, 07:45 AM
Yes, it IS a personal choice. My body, my choice. That's what they say about abortion. Why doesn't that apply to the vaccine? I have no problem with your continued mask usage. Just don't try to impose your beliefs in that regard on me.

Aren't the variants originating in other countries? The Delta variant is more transmissible yet less deadly. That's typically how virus mutations work. Since I've been vaccinated and have some level of immunity, I'm not concerned about catching some future variation of this COVID. The risk is comparable to the risk I have catching the flu or the common cold.

Considering the # of citizens that have contracted the virus and have natural immunity plus the # that have been vaccinated; the US has to have the highest % of citizens that have some level of immunity. No data to back this up but I suspect the original flu was probably much more deadly that it is today. Eventually, populations developed immunities making the subsequent variations much less deadly. That's what is going to happen with COVID. I know this because I stayed in a Holiday Inn last week.......
Excellent post! Yes, it is and must remain a PERSONAL choice. No one gets to decide about my body but me. That's how it works in America. And that's how it will continue to work.

Point two of your post: that viruses (virii?) mutate over time to become less deadly is true as well. That much was proven when Europeans first had contact with the indigenous peoples over here. More indigenous people died of the diseases the Europeans brought than were ever outright killed by the Europeans--an estimated 55 million, or some 90% of the indigenous peoples. The Taino people were basically wiped out. Some of those diseases, such as cholera and smallpox, were major-league killers, but more probably died from diseases such as measles, chicken pox, and the flu--diseases that were for the most part inconveniences to the Europeans. No one doubts why: those "inconvenient" diseases were inconvenient because over the centuries the viruses had mutated into something that was very contagious but, to the Europeans, not very deadly. Once they got it and recovered, they were for the most part immune. Not so with the Taino and the other indigenous peoples. Those "inconvenient" diseases killed them like flies.

It looks more and more that that is exactly what is happening to COVID. The variant cases we've seen to date seem more transmissible but far less deadly. Mother Nature knows what she is doing.

Bella6368
07-30-2021, 07:48 AM
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This should clear it up. Straight out of the contradicting leader of the Covid fight, Dr. Fauci.

Fauci is far more of an "Establishment" figure than a doctor. Can't be trusted. He has done nothing but flip flop on everything he says.

Spalumbos62
07-30-2021, 07:48 AM
LAME! So you are using Facebook to try to make a point about face mask use. Sad! What you failed to do is show Dr. Fauci's comments based on what times during the pandemic. The existence of the variant and people not getting the vaccine has changed everything about when and wear to use a mask. Stop getting your info from fake sources!

You have no credibility.


It boggles the mind how ridged some people are in their reasoning. Yes fauci said no mask, then mask, then probably no mask again....I don't know anymore...it doesn't matter. He is a source, not the answer AND the reasons for wearing have change throughout. But that is ok, because right now...at this stage of the virus they want a mask...for you!...for me..for our kids.
Stop wasting your energy bi#&hing about what fauci said months ago, move on and do what's right. COVER THAT FACE! Before dirt does it for you.

ritafricke
07-30-2021, 07:50 AM
I trust my God-given immune system. I take vitamin C, vitamin D, zinc and quercetin. If I get Covid, I feel confident that I would recover from it, and if I don't, I'm OK with that. There are two great methods of early treatment, hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin. There is no reason to wear a mask, as the virus is much smaller than the mask. It's like putting up a chain-link fence to keep the mosquitoes out. Besides, I like to breathe.

Blackbird45
07-30-2021, 07:50 AM
I agree it is your choice, but if you do get sick you should allow the care giver the choice to treat you or not. Why should they risk their lives to save yours?

Spalumbos62
07-30-2021, 07:50 AM
i have not been vaccinated (and will not) i do not wear a mask (and will not) i am very healthy 65 yr old who simply beleives it is your choice.

rip

Eg_cruz
07-30-2021, 07:53 AM
The info on the news seems to go back and forth about requiring the mask. Soooo many people especially in Southern states are getting it, yes, mostly nonvaxed. I predict that they will go back to mandatory mask very,very soon and hopefully mandatory vac. It's a shame that wasn't done months ago, and we wouldn't be in this mess.
I truly believe the surge in cases and quickness of spread has taken the CDC by surprise. And not only are they back pedaling, they are very concerned it is getting out of control.
So, great for those who have vexed, not good for others and hopefully everyone will wear a mask, for that extra layer.
The government CAN NOT TELL ME OR ANYONE ELSE THEY HAVE TO HAVE A VACCINE
Your funny mandatory vaccinations
Ask my friend who was vaccinated in March that is lying in the hospital very sick with Covid what he thinks

ithos
07-30-2021, 07:54 AM
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That this analogy is perceived as reason reveals the lack of intellectual inquisitiveness of so many in our society. Gravity is a scientific law.
Force = [gravitational constant x masses (m1 m2)] / (radius)2.

There is no law that stating the the pros of wearing masks outweigh the cons. And since the CDC has made contradictory statements on this matter proves that their dictates are not to be regarded as incontrovertible.

If you check Pubmed you will find contradictory studies for preventing infection. That is because it is not an exact science.

Is a Mask That Covers the Mouth and Nose Free from Undesirable Side Effects in Everyday Use and Free of Potential Hazards? - PubMed (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33923935/)

Mask-Induced Exhaustion Syndrome (MIES). We objectified evaluation evidenced changes in respiratory physiology of mask wearers with significant correlation of O2 drop and fatigue (p < 0.05), a clustered co-occurrence of respiratory impairment and O2 drop (67%), N95 mask and CO2 rise (82%), N95 mask and O2 drop (72%), N95 mask and headache (60%), respiratory impairment and temperature rise (88%), but also temperature rise and moisture (100%) under the masks. Extended mask-wearing by the general population could lead to relevant effects and consequences in many medical fields.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4420971/pdf/bmjopen-2014-006577.pdf
A cluster randomised trial of cloth masks compared with medical masks in healthcare workers | BMJ Open (https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/5/4/e006577)
[Effect of a surgical mask on six minute walking distance] - PubMed (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29395560/)
"Exercise with facemask; Are we handling a devil's sword?" - A physiological hypothesis - PubMed (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32590322/)

And there are many more.

Sanctimony is no substitute for logic, reason and an open mind.

Bella6368
07-30-2021, 07:55 AM
I could not join the military, but my wife and I got our shots to protect each other and our friends that refuse the vaccine. If you were in the military and do not get the vaccine then are you not willing to protect your fellow Americans like you were when you were in the military?

Disagree,

OUR BODIES, OUR CHOICE! NO-ONE has the right to tell you what to put into your body, especially the government!

Eg_cruz
07-30-2021, 07:55 AM
rip
Wow

Spalumbos62
07-30-2021, 07:59 AM
I trust my God-given immune system. I take vitamin C, vitamin D, zinc and quercetin. If I get Covid, I feel confident that I would recover from it, and if I don't, I'm OK with that. There are two great methods of early treatment, hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin. There is no reason to wear a mask, as the virus is much smaller than the mask. It's like putting up a chain-link fence to keep the mosquitoes out. Besides, I like to breathe.

What you say is all true, but once you get the virus and take your hydroxychloroquine, tell me-how much fun will TV be straped to an oxygen tank??

donassaid
07-30-2021, 08:00 AM
Are you talking about a mask or a parachute because a mask offers about as much protection against Covid as it would wearing one when you jump out of an airplane. Or have you forgotten the "ex-spurts" opinions that masks Do Not Protect You but are designed to protect others. And yet you continue to believe every word these buffoons put out.

golfing eagles
07-30-2021, 08:00 AM
I trust my God-given immune system. I take vitamin C, vitamin D, zinc and quercetin. If I get Covid, I feel confident that I would recover from it, and if I don't, I'm OK with that. There are two great methods of early treatment, hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin. There is no reason to wear a mask, as the virus is much smaller than the mask. It's like putting up a chain-link fence to keep the mosquitoes out. Besides, I like to breathe.

Rotsa ruck

Spalumbos62
07-30-2021, 08:05 AM
The government CAN NOT TELL ME OR ANYONE ELSE THEY HAVE TO HAVE A VACCINE
Your funny mandatory vaccinations
Ask my friend who was vaccinated in March that is lying in the hospital very sick with Covid what he thinks

Case in point....maybe if he wore a mask he wouldn't of caught it, or if the government had made vaccine mandatory sooner. How many more of our "friends" will it take before people stop being so righteous....so sad, hope he gets better.

golfing eagles
07-30-2021, 08:06 AM
Case in point....maybe if he wore a mask he wouldn't of caught it, or if the government had made vaccine mandatory sooner. How many more of our "friends" will it take before people stop being so righteous....so sad, hope he gets better.

The mask wouldn't have helped him, but getting the vaccine surely would have

Eg_cruz
07-30-2021, 08:08 AM
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This should clear it up. Straight out of the contradicting leader of the Covid fight, Dr. Fauci.
Ha ha ha ha you think that something on FB is factual…….biggest Left Wing Media Mobster out there. FB only post what supports the left side of things…..along with the good Dr Quack

ThirdOfFive
07-30-2021, 08:11 AM
Fauci is far more of an "Establishment" figure than a doctor. Can't be trusted. He has done nothing but flip flop on everything he says.
Yesterday, someone posted the mother of all surveys, something done by The Economist a few days back. Huge! I'm about halfway done reading it,

Anyway, the results of this survey seem to bear out what you say about Fauci. Those who trust him and those who mistrust him seem more or less equally divided, with a slight predominance of the numbers on the "trust" side.

We've come to a sad state of affairs in America, and I think this is symptomatic of it, in part anyway. No matter what a government official says or does, a large percentage of the people will reject it simply because it is a government official saying or doing it. According to a Pew poll taken in July 2019, only 22% of Americans have a high level of trust in the government, and given that that poll was taken before COVID, I think that that number is probably a lot smaller today.

We're light-years removed from the days of Uncle Walter and The Loyal Opposition.

Boffin
07-30-2021, 08:16 AM
If by “exact science” you mean absolute, there is no such entity. Remember: even a scientific law can have exceptions, be proven wrong, or evolve over time.

Stuholden
07-30-2021, 08:18 AM
Did you hear about the guy who jumped off the Empire State building without a parachute? About a foot of the ground he thought 99.99% of the way down and still doing OK.
Enjoy your mask free, vax free existance; there is a cure for stupid.

Bonnevie
07-30-2021, 08:18 AM
I have not been vaccinated (and will not) I do not wear a mask (and will not) I am very healthy 65 yr old who simply beleives it is your choice.

and you and those like you are the reason for the problems we are facing now. when the mask mandate was lifted for VACCINATED people, you just tossed any you had away and have gone about your life with no regard for others--because there was no way of telling which people were vaccinated. so the delta variant had many people to infect and has done so and Florida is a cesspool again. You've probably been lucky because within the Villages itself, many people have been vaccinated. but with all the family visiting, that may change. with freedom comes responsibility.

ThirdOfFive
07-30-2021, 08:23 AM
I trust my God-given immune system. I take vitamin C, vitamin D, zinc and quercetin. If I get Covid, I feel confident that I would recover from it, and if I don't, I'm OK with that. There are two great methods of early treatment, hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin. There is no reason to wear a mask, as the virus is much smaller than the mask. It's like putting up a chain-link fence to keep the mosquitoes out. Besides, I like to breathe.
I once heard that expecting a mask to stop the COVID bug is like expecting your underwear to stop a fart.

billethkid
07-30-2021, 08:26 AM
I once heard that expecting a mask to stop the COVID bug is like expecting your underwear to stop a fart.

FINALLY!
Something all can relate to regardless of any and all persuasions.

golfing eagles
07-30-2021, 08:27 AM
I once heard that expecting a mask to stop the COVID bug is like expecting your underwear to stop a fart.

Except the better analogy is when the fart is carried on a piece of s***

Flgagg
07-30-2021, 09:34 AM
No one had any experience or scientific studies on COVID before it became our everyday existence. I had the vaccine and I wear a mask. My decision is based on the fact I will do what I need to do to not make others ill. COVID and the variants are new for everyone hence why guidance is always changing. I would hate to think I made a child ill, a family lose a loved one, if I could have done something as simply as wearing a mask. So I am uncomfortable for a few minutes. I would rather do that then the unthinkable

cherylncliff
07-30-2021, 09:39 AM
because you continue to wear a mask you'll never know if it has protected you in any way. There are many people who use their version of common sense. You've stayed healthy because of the vaccine...not the mask.

How do you explain the 10's of millions who have neither been vaccinated and don't wear a mask and still don't get sick????

I haven't had a flu shot in over 50 years and yet I haven't gotten the flu in all that time. I left New England over 8 years ago and while I used to get 2 or 3 colds a year I've yet to have one here in Florida. Please explain.

How do you explain the hundreds of millions not vaccinated and no mask who did get covid. How do you explain the 600,000 deaths in the US from covid. How do you explain the people who were vaccinated, did not wear a mask and got covid, albeit a milder case due to their vaccination. Wearing a mask also protects others from you when you start shedding virus because you are sick and go out in public. Masks protect those who can not be vaccinated. Masks protect the CHILDREN who can not yet get the vaccine. Do you hate humanity that much????

OrangeBlossomBaby
07-30-2021, 09:42 AM
I trust my God-given immune system. I take vitamin C, vitamin D, zinc and quercetin. If I get Covid, I feel confident that I would recover from it, and if I don't, I'm OK with that. There are two great methods of early treatment, hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin. There is no reason to wear a mask, as the virus is much smaller than the mask. It's like putting up a chain-link fence to keep the mosquitoes out. Besides, I like to breathe.

If you trust your god-given immune system then why are you taking vitamin C, D, zinc, and quercetin? Stop wasting money. god gave you the immune system you should have, no need to try and strengthen it. It is exactly as strong as god wants it to be.

And forget treatment. If god wants you to get sick, then man up and take the sickness.

GrumpyOldMan
07-30-2021, 09:44 AM
I once heard that expecting a mask to stop the COVID bug is like expecting your underwear to stop a fart.

I think you are right, wasn’t the person that said that given the Nobel prize? Such profound wisdom, I certainly will base my life and death decisions on the wisdom of such a person…. NOT.

golfing eagles
07-30-2021, 09:45 AM
How do you explain the hundreds of millions not vaccinated and no mask who did get covid. How do you explain the 600,000 deaths in the US from covid. How do you explain the people who were vaccinated, did not wear a mask and got covid, albeit a milder case due to their vaccination. Wearing a mask also protects others from you when you start shedding virus because you are sick and go out in public. Masks protect those who can not be vaccinated. Masks protect the CHILDREN who can not yet get the vaccine. Do you hate humanity that much????

Not "also", more like "exclusively" It's been over a year, when will people get it through their heads that a routine paper mask does almost nothing to protect the wearer. Yet, even now, we find people wearing a mask alone in their car, cycling, walking alone, etc. And please, no one post they are doing that because of "allergies". If that were true we would have seen hundreds of people wearing masks pre-COVID, but we didn't.

GrumpyOldMan
07-30-2021, 09:48 AM
If you trust your god-given immune system then why are you taking vitamin C, D, zinc, and quercetin? Stop wasting money. god gave you the immune system you should have, no need to try and strengthen it. It is exactly as strong as god wants it to be.

And forget treatment. If god wants you to get sick, then man up and take the sickness.

God gave me an Abdominal Aortic Aneurysm and I screwed up and got it repaired by a scientist. I guess I am doomed to hell now. Oh well…

golfing eagles
07-30-2021, 09:49 AM
God gave me an Abdominal Aortic Aneurysm and I screwed up and got it repaired by a scientist. I guess I am doomed to hell now. Oh well…

Hate when that happens:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

saratogaman
07-30-2021, 09:49 AM
Log into Facebook | Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/politicalnewsnow/videos/344665023875222)

This should clear it up. Straight out of the contradicting leader of the Covid fight, Dr. Fauci.
Making a health decision based upon a highly edited video on Facebook? Ignoring the evolution of knowledge as experience with Covid is acquired? Good luck with that! I get my medical info and advice from my own doctor -- not social media, politicians or TV pundits, thank you very much.

GrumpyOldMan
07-30-2021, 09:50 AM
Not "also", more like "exclusively" It's been over a year, when will people get it through their heads that a routine paper mask does almost nothing to protect the wearer. Yet, even now, we find people wearing a mask alone in their car, cycling, walking alone, etc. And please, no one post they are doing that because of "allergies". If that were true we would have seen hundreds of people wearing masks pre-COVID, but we didn't.

Nice job inserting the word paper. There is a list of recommended masks, that isn’t on it. Cars without brakes do nothing to prevent accidents, why is the government promoting cars😁

Vermilion Villager
07-30-2021, 09:50 AM
90251

Couldn't have said it better!!!
Thank you flat Earth, anti-vaxers....because of you HERE WE GO AGAIN!!!!!!:swear:

GrumpyOldMan
07-30-2021, 09:51 AM
Making a health decision based upon a highly edited video on Facebook? Ignoring the evolution of knowledge as experience with Covid is acquired? Good luck with that! I get my medical info and advice from my own doctor -- not social media, politicians or TV pundits, thank you very much.

Stop that right now, the ranters have staked out their claim on common sense, you are not allowed to use it to disagree with nonsense.

OrangeBlossomBaby
07-30-2021, 09:57 AM
God gave me an Abdominal Aortic Aneurysm and I screwed up and got it repaired by a scientist. I guess I am doomed to hell now. Oh well…

As long as you believe god wills everything that happens to you, you'll be fine. Send a text to your white plastic Jesus, he'll tell you all about it. Oh wait hm - he can't, because he's dead. "Why hath thou forsaken me?"

So much for the "god-given immunity" theory.

Ghat724@gmail.com
07-30-2021, 10:02 AM
One American's freedom stops where my nose begins. In other words one's freedom not to vaccinate stops where it endangers my health. That is why smoking is prohibited in restaurants and restricted in public places. And we all conform to this standard!

Byte1
07-30-2021, 10:22 AM
IF the gov. mandates the wearing of masks inside regardless of whether or not vaccinated, I think the message they will be giving is that there is no use getting the vaccination. I have no intention of wearing my mask anywhere other than medical facilities.
Has anyone been following the death by Covid rate lately? Big deal that there might be a spurt of Delta variant cases, when the death rate is still at an all time low.
I was hesitant on the idea of getting the vaccination since I do not get the flu shot and have never had the flu. BUT, I did get the Covid vaccination to protect my spouse. However, if the gov feels that we must still wear a mask, then I have no intention of getting a booster shot. If the death rate remains low, then the message must be flawed.
Like I have said before, I am NOT going to encourage anyone to get the shot, even though I did get mine. I also will not discourage anyone from obtaining their vaccination.
I will wear a mask IF I feel it prudent, NOT because someone I do not trust tells me that I must. If a convincing argument is made, I will go back to the mask. So far, no one has convinced me.

golfing eagles
07-30-2021, 10:23 AM
Nice job inserting the word paper. There is a list of recommended masks, that isn’t on it. Cars without brakes do nothing to prevent accidents, why is the government promoting cars😁

Thank you. Poetic license:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

nick demis
07-30-2021, 10:29 AM
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Other than the N95, ask your doctor if any other mask works. If they say yes, look for a new doctor.

OrangeBlossomBaby
07-30-2021, 11:42 AM
Other than the N95, ask your doctor if any other mask works. If they say yes, look for a new doctor.

They work...to do what they are designed to do.

REDUCE RISK.

They will reduce your risk of getting the virus. They will reduce your risk of spreading the virus.

They won't prevent anything, except perhaps other people being subjected to your bad breath, if you have it, or seeing your bad teeth, if you have those.

But yes masks work to varying degrees, depending on the mask, in reducing risk of transmission of COVID-19.

NoMoSno
07-30-2021, 11:44 AM
No one had any experience or scientific studies on COVID before it became our everyday existence.
Actually many Wuhan lab and US scientists and Dr.s knew exactly what they were creating long before it escaped the lab.

kendi
07-30-2021, 01:08 PM
I am still wearing a mask even though I’ve been vaccinated.
I stayed healthy doing so.

I do not listen to one word Fauci says.

You have no way of knowing if the face mask kept you healthy.

kendi
07-30-2021, 01:13 PM
Not "also", more like "exclusively" It's been over a year, when will people get it through their heads that a routine paper mask does almost nothing to protect the wearer. Yet, even now, we find people wearing a mask alone in their car, cycling, walking alone, etc. And please, no one post they are doing that because of "allergies". If that were true we would have seen hundreds of people wearing masks pre-COVID, but we didn't.

Not true. My son never considered wearing a mask for allergies before CoVID. He only wears it mowing the lawn but it was certainly a nice discovery thanks to the ridiculous mask mandates.

Incoblack1
07-30-2021, 01:15 PM
It's just incredulous to me that some people willfully disregard the advice of infectious disease experts who work in this field daily. Defiance of the experts is not very smart!!

kendi
07-30-2021, 01:18 PM
It's just incredulous to me that some people willfully disregard the advice of infectious disease experts who work in this field daily. Defiance of the experts is not very smart!!

The “experts” change their stance quite frequently

kendi
07-30-2021, 01:20 PM
The info on the news seems to go back and forth about requiring the mask. Soooo many people especially in Southern states are getting it, yes, mostly nonvaxed. I predict that they will go back to mandatory mask very,very soon and hopefully mandatory vac. It's a shame that wasn't done months ago, and we wouldn't be in this mess.
I truly believe the surge in cases and quickness of spread has taken the CDC by surprise. And not only are they back pedaling, they are very concerned it is getting out of control.
So, great for those who have vexed, not good for others and hopefully everyone will wear a mask, for that extra layer.

No one should ever be forced to inject a foreign substance into their body.

OrangeBlossomBaby
07-30-2021, 01:40 PM
The “experts” change their stance quite frequently

That's what makes them good at being experts. They know enough to accept and acknowledge that there is always more to learn. What they knew for sure today, could be proven wrong, or right but for different reasons, or expounded upon, or even proven to be MORE true than they realized, tomorrow.

Only ignorant people insist that everything they know today, is all there is to know.

GrumpyOldMan
07-30-2021, 01:42 PM
No one should ever be forced to inject a foreign substance into their body.

So you are in favor of stopping all vaccinations of children. Okay. Let us know how that works out.

GrumpyOldMan
07-30-2021, 01:43 PM
That's what makes them good at being experts. They know enough to accept and acknowledge that there is always more to learn. What they knew for sure today, could be proven wrong, or right but for different reasons, or expounded upon, or even proven to be MORE true than they realized, tomorrow.

Only ignorant people insist that everything they know today, is all there is to know.

Well, darn, I wish you would quit channeling me and posting exactly what I was going to say before I can say it :)

I probably would have been a little less "Politically correct" than you were.

But, well said.