TOTV is un-bearable

[Papa_lecki]

Between the coffee posts and the COVID posts, this forum is becoming un bearable.

(BTW, no on is changing anyone’s mind on masks or vaccines)

[Dana1963]

Between the coffee posts and the COVID posts, this forum is becoming un bearable.

(BTW, no on is changing anyone’s mind on masks or vaccines)
With some the posts common sense is lacking.

[Toymeister]

The salesman's posts on reverse mortgages (a few months ago) were worse but, yes, I agree.

[Taltarzac725]

Talk of the Villages is still useful for many things. Just put whoever bothers your sensibilities on your Ignore List.

[GrumpyOldMan]

I am sorry you feel that way (OP), definitely the reason there is the ignore list.

Personally, I want to have discussions with people I disagree with. I want to learn why they believe what they believe, I want people to challenge my views and beliefs. I have no use whatsoever with immature posts ridiculing and calling names. I will admit on occassion I get annoyed and post a sarcastic post that could be interpreted as ridicule, but I try not to.

So, I am glad we can disagree publically. I wish we could have a section for political discussions/arguments, which you have to join and agree to whatever to participate in, but I expect that is not going to happen.

And while I am an evil bleeding heart liberal, I have met several conservatives here that I highly respect both for their civility and for the well reasoned and well-spoken arguments.

[photo1902]

Between the coffee posts and the COVID posts, this forum is becoming un bearable.

(BTW, no on is changing anyone’s mind on masks or vaccines)

I completely agree.

Not to mention the idiocy of all the posts where the authors are constantly "rolling on the floor laughing"

[Taltarzac725]

I am sorry you feel that way (OP), definitely the reason there is the ignore list.

Personally, I want to have discussions with people I disagree with. I want to learn why they believe what they believe, I want people to challenge my views and beliefs. I have no use whatsoever with immature posts ridiculing and calling names. I will admit on occassion I get annoyed and post a sarcastic post that could be interpreted as ridicule, but I try not to.

So, I am glad we can disagree publically. I wish we could have a section for political discussions/arguments, which you have to join and agree to whatever to participate in, but I expect that is not going to happen.

And while I am an evil bleeding heart liberal, I have met several conservatives here that I highly respect both for their civility and for the well reasoned and well-spoken arguments.

Agree there. I have a B.A. in Philosophy which involved developing critical thinking skills and reading materials written by people who have very different views on things.

Got kicked out of the Unification Church for being too adversarial. I only went to the house they had near the University of Nevada, Reno (UNR) campus as there was a very friendly black man hanging around the Humanities Building who invited me over to talk about Philosophy. It took me a while to learn he was the Northern Nevada Chapter Head for the Unification Church or the Moonies.

Talk about unwanted phone calls! They started targeting my parents with scam like calls that weekend. That was how they operated in the late 1970s and early 1980s. Had to finally use a lot of profanity to get them to stop calling at the end of the following weekend after I attended one more of their discussions at the house near UNR. The Chapter Head had enticed me there with a promise of meeting a pretty girl. I fell for it. Did meet her. I was around 21 at this time.

[graciegirl]

Between the coffee posts and the COVID posts, this forum is becoming un bearable.

(BTW, no on is changing anyone’s mind on masks or vaccines)

I was given a point on my record three days ago for directly addressing a poster and being unkind.

I did feel that my comments were not as unkind as other comments, but it is hard not to get all mad some times. Some people enjoy that happening and I think sometime it is the main reason for their posts.

[Kenswing]

Between the coffee posts and the COVID posts, this forum is becoming un bearable.

(BTW, no on is changing anyone’s mind on masks or vaccines)
Totally agree. There are four or five posters that are the Covid Warriors. They will argue with each other ALL day long over the same thing. I'm surprised they actually take time out to eat. A couple of them post upwards of 50 times a day. If Covid ever goes away I wonder what these people will do? They'll have to learn to live life all over again.

I only pop in once or twice a day now just to see if there's anything related to The Villages and the lifestyle. If I want to get information on the state of Covid this isn't the place I'm going to do it.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Some people enjoy that happening and I think sometime it is the main reason for their posts.

LOL!

Reminds me of the cartoon ages ago, a guy with an umbrella is walking in a zoo and comes up to the lion cage. He pokes the lion with his umbrella and jumps back, he pokes the lion with his umbrella and jumps back, I think at some point he is warned to not poke the lion, then we see the lion with an umbrella hanging from his mouth...

Moral, not a good idea to poke sleeping lions - LOL.

[Taltarzac725]

LOL!

Reminds me of the cartoon ages ago, a guy with an umbrella is walking in a zoo and comes up to the lion cage. He pokes the lion with his umbrella and jumps back, he pokes the lion with his umbrella and jumps back, I think at some point he is warned to not poke the lion, then we see the lion with an umbrella hanging from his mouth...

Moral, not a good idea to poke sleeping lions - LOL.

Took my Mom to the foot doctor a few days ago and they are requiring masks again. They did not for a few months lately.

And I am wearing a mask on occasion too when going to a store but only masking up if it is crowded.

This is a bearable inconvenience. TOTV often has useful information about something or another.

[Bill14564]

In just the last few days I've learned about breakfast places, intermittent problems with a golf cart, ways to clean mold and mildew off the house, ways to repair cracks in a quartz countertop, the reason Villages Golf Carts is out of stock, possible issues with automatic payments, a warning about a payment scam, and some info about internet speeds. Yes, there are some Covid threads and I've commented in them but they are far from the majority of the currently active topics.

[tvbound]

Is everyone now allowed to publicly complain about moderation and/or any infractions, or do you have to have a certain number of posts before you can get away with doing it? If the latter - I'm screwed. lol

[graciegirl]

Is everyone now allowed to publicly complain about moderation and/or any infractions, or do you have to have a certain number of posts before you can get away with doing it? If the latter - I'm screwed. lol

Oh dear. I do recall we aren't supposed to discuss moderation. I think I am too. Screwed.

[Kelevision]

In just the last few days I've learned about breakfast places, intermittent problems with a golf cart, ways to clean mold and mildew off the house, ways to repair cracks in a quartz countertop, the reason Villages Golf Carts is out of stock, possible issues with automatic payments, a warning about a payment scam, and some info about internet speeds. Yes, there are some Covid threads and I've commented in them but they are far from the majority of the currently active topics.
Why ARE they out of golf carts???

[John41]

Between the coffee posts and the COVID posts, this forum is becoming un bearable.

(BTW, no on is changing anyone’s mind on masks or vaccines)

There are three forums so you have a choice. Maybe General is your cup of tea. Why don’t you post topics that interest you there or on Non Villages Discussions. Some of us like currents events discussions even if they get a little rowdy and off topic at times. Different strokes for different folks. Have a nice day.

[dtennent]

While I don't reply often, I usually reply when I seen someone posting misinformation. Just to be clear, misinformation does not arise because I disagree with a personal position. Rather, misinformation is a statement of "facts" that have no basis in any substantiated publication - for science that is an article from a refereed journal. For nonscience subjects, it means that several responsible news outlets are in agreement with the facts.

I read everything from the NY Times to the New Republic so I hope to hear multiple positions on an issue. What I don't do is to blindly follow any given leader, talking head, etc. BTW, the more I learn, the more I am amazed how our elected leaders of both parties can't figure out how to reach/listen across the aisle to create much stronger legislation that would help us all.

[DeanFL]

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Must say, I used to be loyal and checked ToTV a few times per day type of person. And if I felt I could add value, I'd try.

Lately there seems to be an abundance of typical yada and limited interesting 'stuff'. Yes, the coffee thing, irritating. Very few 'sponsors' post much - I simply pass by. I do review some posts that I may find appealing, but that seems to be so minimal now. And the 'usual suspects' who simply have to post their 1-5 words rsp or silly emoticons. Gets very old.

I get the ToTV top posts email each morning. And probably check in if I'm bored. Perhaps it's me and old age crankiness creepin' in...
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[Stu from NYC]

The salesman's posts on reverse mortgages (a few months ago) were worse but, yes, I agree.

Why does the coffee guy start so many threads about the same thing? Does he think more people will read his posts if there are 5 or more on the first page.

How nice the reverse mortgage seems to have moved on.

[jebartle]

I am sorry you feel that way (OP), definitely the reason there is the ignore list.

Personally, I want to have discussions with people I disagree with. I want to learn why they believe what they believe, I want people to challenge my views and beliefs. I have no use whatsoever with immature posts ridiculing and calling names. I will admit on occassion I get annoyed and post a sarcastic post that could be interpreted as ridicule, but I try not to.

So, I am glad we can disagree publically. I wish we could have a section for political discussions/arguments, which you have to join and agree to whatever to participate in, but I expect that is not going to happen.

And while I am an evil bleeding heart liberal, I have met several conservatives here that I highly respect both for their civility and for the well reasoned and well-spoken arguments.

I also like a good debate but still looking for folks that tell the truth and fact check, which is a rarity these days.

[asianthree]

Why ARE they out of golf carts???

Supply chain like anything else. First available delivery date is December, if you order a cart they give you one to drive until order is filled. So low on carts either rental or for delivery

[asianthree]

Why does the coffee guy start so many threads about the same thing? Does he think more people will read his posts if there are 5 or more on the first page.

How nice the reverse mortgage seems to have moved on.

Or decided to spend advertising dollars to a site that those not interested just move on, instead of attacking sponsors. If I am not interested in a business I just don’t read the post, it’s an option.

TOTV has become less about great info, and more about couple of subjects that no one has control. I now find a spend about 10 minutes a day here. I used to find this site so helpful, with thought, and experience on getting things done.

Now as a new person if you ask a question you can plan on a percentage that will either let you know you don’t have a clue, shouldn’t live here, can’t spell or formulate a sentence, or just downright attack the new poster. Then there is a small percentage that actually helps, instead of great helpful info. Doesn’t anyone go out and play anymore?

[Papa_lecki]

In just the last few days I've learned about breakfast places, intermittent problems with a golf cart, ways to clean mold and mildew off the house, ways to repair cracks in a quartz countertop, the reason Villages Golf Carts is out of stock, possible issues with automatic payments, a warning about a payment scam, and some info about internet speeds. Yes, there are some Covid threads and I've commented in them but they are far from the majority of the currently active topics.

I agree, these posts are great, and I’ve said in those posts.
Talk of The Villages should be about those topics.

[GrumpyOldMan]

I agree, these posts are great, and I’ve said in those posts.
Talk of The Villages should be about those topics.

Sadly, there seems to be a big bucket that everything gets dumped into. While there are lots of different sections, it seems the active one or two gets it all.

It would help a lot if there were finer-grained groups so topics could be clearly differentiated. And people could then subscribe to the ones they want and not be bothered digging through all the ones they don't want.

[Babubhat]

They need an easier way here to add to the ignore list. Mine has become ridiculously long

[GrumpyOldMan]

I also like a good debate but still looking for folks that tell the truth and fact check, which is a rarity these days.

Truth can be elusive, I will settle for honestly believe what they say and can explain why they believe that, and do it without being insulting and childish.

[Garywt]

Why does the coffee guy start so many threads about the same thing? Does he think more people will read his posts if there are 5 or more on the first page.

How nice the reverse mortgage seems to have moved on.

But we have the hearing aid people as well, can you here me now. Maybe a nice cup of coffee will help.

[ROCKMUP]

I was given a point on my record three days ago for directly addressing a poster and being unkind.
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Where do you see that at (Points) I'm think I'm screwed. I've had 3 posts removed and I didn't see anything wrong with them.

I had no idea. lol

[Art cov]

Some post so much that it’s annoying, I guess they just don’t have anything else to do. I mostly skip over their post. When the same people are going back n forth, as they are the only ones posting, they would be better off meeting someplace in person to have their discussion rather then boring everyone

[billethkid]

I think TOTV is still a very useful site for the most part.

It is unfortunate like so many things these days, the emphasis is always on the negative content. And isolated instances often treated as a general condition.

There are some 25,000 members out of which a minuscule % participate. And out of that minuscule participation an even smaller number that can be spoilers.

Utilizing the ignore list as well as skipping the known prolific drum beaters makes it a keeper. ....IMHO.

[ROCKMUP]

Some post so much that it’s annoying, I guess they just don’t have anything else to do. I mostly skip over their post. When the same people are going back n forth, as they are the only ones posting, they would be better off meeting someplace in person to have their discussion rather then boring everyone


That would never happen, sadly, many people are cowards and only get brave with the anonymity and safety that the internet provides

EDIT: FWIW, I enjoy this place and have gotten a lot of good info from it

[dewilson58]

Don't click on the advertising threads if you don't like them.

Advertisers (coffee, reverse mortgages, lanai screens, etc.) they pay for this site.

Don't click!!!!

[Get real]

I also like a good debate but still looking for folks that tell the truth and fact check, which is a rarity these days.

You are not allowed to debate on here. :pray:

[dewilson58]

You are not allowed to debate on here. :pray:

That's debatable..

[Altavia]

The signal to noise is very poor, and most threads are off topic by the fith post. Often by the same people/trolls.

So I'm reducing time here and about ready to stop posting, maybe not visiting all together.

[John41]

The signal to noise is very poor, and most threads are off topic by the fith post. Often by the same people/trolls.

So I'm reducing time here and about ready to stop posting, maybe not visiting all together.

You’ll be back if just out of curiosity.

[tvbound]

That would never happen, sadly, many people are cowards and only get brave with the anonymity and safety that the internet provides

EDIT: FWIW, I enjoy this place and have gotten a lot of good info from it


"only get brave with the anonymity and safety that the internet provides"


What do you mean by "safety?" Given the number of angry nutcases and extremists (often armed) out there, it's pretty obvious that anonymity is often needed.

[GrumpyOldMan]

It's amazing how many people feel it is annoying to HAVE TO READ all those posts.

hmmm...

[Escape Artist]

While I don't reply often, I usually reply when I seen someone posting misinformation. Just to be clear, misinformation does not arise because I disagree with a personal position. Rather, misinformation is a statement of "facts" that have no basis in any substantiated publication - for science that is an article from a refereed journal. For nonscience subjects, it means that several responsible news outlets are in agreement with the facts.

I read everything from the NY Times to the New Republic so I hope to hear multiple positions on an issue. What I don't do is to blindly follow any given leader, talking head, etc. BTW, the more I learn, the more I am amazed how our elected leaders of both parties can't figure out how to reach/listen across the aisle to create much stronger legislation that would help us all.

"The NY Times to the New Republic" is not a broad, varied reading list with different perspectives. Maybe you meant National Review?

[Escape Artist]

Oh dear. I do recall we aren't supposed to discuss moderation. I think I am too. Screwed.

Is this a privately/independently owned and operated forum or one of The Villages' communication and information platforms ?

[jswirs]

Between the coffee posts and the COVID posts, this forum is becoming un bearable.

(BTW, no on is changing anyone’s mind on masks or vaccines)

I've been saying exactly this from day 1 of Covid. Doesn't matter what is said, especially on social media, No one is going to change their minds regarding Covid, but, I guess, some folks just like to argue, or, try to prove to others how intelligent they think they are. Just MHO.

[RICH1]

Well said Bill ... it is what we make it

[Mrprez]

Is this a privately/independently owned and operated forum or one of The Villages' communication and information platforms ?

As stated in the footer found on every page of this website, they are not associated with The Villages.

[Dotneko]

The salesman's posts on reverse mortgages (a few months ago) were worse but, yes, I agree.

At least he was a paying advertiser and was providing a service many of us wanted despite others prejudice against it....

[camaguey48]

I've been saying exactly this from day 1 of Covid. Doesn't matter what is said, especially on social media, No one is going to change their minds regarding Covid, but, I guess, some folks just like to argue, or, try to prove to others how intelligent they think they are. Just MHO.
Refer to the white doggy.

[MrZero]

I am sorry you feel that way (OP), definitely the reason there is the ignore list.

Personally, I want to have discussions with people I disagree with. I want to learn why they believe what they believe, I want people to challenge my views and beliefs. I have no use whatsoever with immature posts ridiculing and calling names. I will admit on occassion I get annoyed and post a sarcastic post that could be interpreted as ridicule, but I try not to.

So, I am glad we can disagree publically. I wish we could have a section for political discussions/arguments, which you have to join and agree to whatever to participate in, but I expect that is not going to happen.

And while I am an evil bleeding heart liberal, I have met several conservatives here that I highly respect both for their civility and for the well reasoned and well-spoken arguments.

Well said (written). I too believe we are missing a valuable part of civilization when we cannot discuss differing opinions in a reasonable manner. Cancel culture will destroy our democracy IMO because only the prevailing opinion (true or not) will be accepted.

I hope we can keep the lively debate ongoing. And I am an independent conservative, but was raised by rabid bleeding-heart liberals so I know how to break bread with anyone. Peace.

[banjobob]

I agree

[kenoc7]

Minds must be changed - not wearing a mask where they are mandated and not getting vaccinated endangers that individual and everyone they love and have contact with. Wake up people - wear a mask when required and get vaccinated!!!!!!

[Beyond The Wall]

So who is forcing you to read it

[Singerlady]

Between the coffee posts and the COVID posts, this forum is becoming un bearable.

(BTW, no on is changing anyone’s mind on masks or vaccines)
It is a forum. Definition of a forum.
1. a place, meeting, or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged.
Like it or not, that’s what people are doing here, I think.

[allsport]

Between the coffee posts and the COVID posts, this forum is becoming un bearable.

(BTW, no on is changing anyone’s mind on masks or vaccines)

The changing of the minds is very true, the difference now is that those not vaccinated are sick and dying. It will make the world a much smarter place.

[tsmall22204]

I find TOTV entertaining. We have some people that donot/cannot think for themselves, then others that feel that it is their responsibility to report the news as they see it (usually wrong), then there are those that cannot stop posting the same thing, hmmm probably the only thing they can discuss. Very entertaining!!!

[Stu from NYC]

It's amazing how many people feel it is annoying to HAVE TO READ all those posts.

hmmm...

Very true. Not exactly hard to scroll by posts you have no interest in.

[TNLAKEPANDA]

Between the coffee posts and the COVID posts, this forum is becoming un bearable.

(BTW, no on is changing anyone’s mind on masks or vaccines)

So why are you reading the posts? Just skip them over and read what you want. Stop complaining.

Thanks

[mike bales]

The only reason I read this every morning is to see the stupid questions people ask or their attempt to start a discussion on irrelevant subjects

[dtennent]

"The NY Times to the New Republic" is not a broad, varied reading list with different perspectives. Maybe you meant National Review?

You are right. I stand corrected.

[Petersweeney]

I got a point for calling out a ghoul :(

[Larchap49]

While I don't reply often, I usually reply when I seen someone posting misinformation. Just to be clear, misinformation does not arise because I disagree with a personal position. Rather, misinformation is a statement of "facts" that have no basis in any substantiated publication - for science that is an article from a refereed journal. For nonscience subjects, it means that several responsible news outlets are in agreement with the facts.

I read everything from the NY Times to the New Republic so I hope to hear multiple positions on an issue. What I don't do is to blindly follow any given leader, talking head, etc. BTW, the more I learn, the more I am amazed how our elected leaders of both parties can't figure out how to reach/listen across the aisle to create much stronger legislation that would help us all.

You said "responsible news outlets" ????? Can you please name one because I don't believe there is one anymore.

[Stephen13]

I completely agree.

Not to mention the idiocy of all the posts where the authors are constantly "rolling on the floor laughing"

I couldn't have said that any better. It's not like it's every once in a while...it's constant. Or the person who was to say something just to say something. Maybe they're one in the same.

On the positive side, there are regular posters I respect and enjoy their contributions. Thanks for contributing, I appreciate your opinions.

[Larchap49]

I find TOTV entertaining. We have some people that donot/cannot think for themselves, then others that feel that it is their responsibility to report the news as they see it (usually wrong), then there are those that cannot stop posting the same thing, hmmm probably the only thing they can discuss. Very entertaining!!!

I'm confused are you referring to TOTV members or just about every News organization

[camaguey48]

I find TOTV entertaining. We have some people that donot/cannot think for themselves, then others that feel that it is their responsibility to report the news as they see it (usually wrong), then there are those that cannot stop posting the same thing, hmmm probably the only thing they can discuss. Very entertaining!!!
Refer to the white doggie?

[DIver0258]

To the OP and others if your overwhelmed with certain topics, just scroll on by without reading.

[KRMACK55]

Between the coffee posts and the COVID posts, this forum is becoming un bearable.

(BTW, no on is changing anyone’s mind on masks or vaccines)
The reason why it’s unbearable has nothing to do with Covid. It’s the same former 5 or 6 East coast people who’ve lived here forever inflicting themselves on others. It proves that living in the so called friendliest doesn’t really work.

[jimh123]

Then don't read it ! Bye Bye

[PugMom]

I am sorry you feel that way (OP), definitely the reason there is the ignore list.

Personally, I want to have discussions with people I disagree with. I want to learn why they believe what they believe, I want people to challenge my views and beliefs. I have no use whatsoever with immature posts ridiculing and calling names. I will admit on occassion I get annoyed and post a sarcastic post that could be interpreted as ridicule, but I try not to.

So, I am glad we can disagree publically. I wish we could have a section for political discussions/arguments, which you have to join and agree to whatever to participate in, but I expect that is not going to happen.

And while I am an evil bleeding heart liberal, I have met several conservatives here that I highly respect both for their civility and for the well reasoned and well-spoken arguments.

i'm with you! i love engaging conversation with those of differing opinions. i can get more info from a face to face conversation than from any so-called news report, and it's ok to disagree. it doesn't mean i don't like/respect you, in fact i admire those who can approach me & discuss things without fear of being shot down or being made fun of. this is how it used to be years ago, when we were ALL Americans as opposed to the new hyphenated citizen

[Gizemo33]

I guess papa L has not gotten vaccinated and doesn’t intend to. All I can say is hopefully he will not get sick and pass on with a respirator in his throat.

Papa L, remain safe and healthy and hopefully you don’t infect other people causing lose of life!!



Between the coffee posts and the COVID posts, this forum is becoming un bearable.

(BTW, no on is changing anyone’s mind on masks or vaccines)

[Pginbr]

Tos

[Bogie Shooter]

i'm with you! i love engaging conversation with those of differing opinions. i can get more info from a face to face conversation than from any so-called news report, and it's ok to disagree. it doesn't mean i don't like/respect you, in fact i admire those who can approach me & discuss things without fear of being shot down or being made fun of. this is how it used to be years ago, when we were ALL Americans as opposed to the new hyphenated citizen

Hyphenated citizens……….sad.

[Jayhawk]

The reason why it’s unbearable has nothing to do with Covid. It’s the same former 5 or 6 East coast people who’ve lived here forever inflicting themselves on others. It proves that living in the so called friendliest doesn’t really work.

It only proves that for the 5 or 6 (or maybe 20) chronic contributors. The other 130,000 people seem pretty happy.

[CFrance]

i'm with you! i love engaging conversation with those of differing opinions. i can get more info from a face to face conversation than from any so-called news report, and it's ok to disagree. it doesn't mean i don't like/respect you, in fact i admire those who can approach me & discuss things without fear of being shot down or being made fun of. this is how it used to be years ago, when we were ALL Americans as opposed to the new hyphenated citizen
I'm taking that statement to mean that we should consider ALL citizens to be Americans. It's my opinion, anyway.

[fdpaq0580]

Simple it sells coffee

It has been said many times that "there is no such thing as bad publicity". While I am not a customer and have no plan to become one, I completely understand that if this is producing new customers and they like your products then this is working for you. Owning your own successful business is the American dream. While "the coffee guy" posts are not my favorite, they really don't bother me. I do get a kick out of all those that get there knickers in a twist over them.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

i'm with you! i love engaging conversation with those of differing opinions. i can get more info from a face to face conversation than from any so-called news report, and it's ok to disagree. it doesn't mean i don't like/respect you, in fact i admire those who can approach me & discuss things without fear of being shot down or being made fun of. this is how it used to be years ago, when we were ALL Americans as opposed to the new hyphenated citizen

It has never been that way, in the history of this continent, let alone this country.

People considered "other" have been persecuted, shot, enslaved, killed, victimized, accused, provoked, disrespected, disparaged, oppressed, repressed, degraded, humiliated, for as long as there have been "other" for people to do these things to.

There has been and always will be people who will feel threatened by "other" and do whatever it takes to put them down, in order to stay on top.

[Spalumbos62]

Totally agree. There are four or five posters that are the Covid Warriors. They will argue with each other ALL day long over the same thing. I'm surprised they actually take time out to eat. A couple of them post upwards of 50 times a day. If Covid ever goes away I wonder what these people will do? They'll have to learn to live life all over again.

I only pop in once or twice a day now just to see if there's anything related to The Villages and the lifestyle. If I want to get information on the state of Covid this isn't the place I'm going to do it.


I usually go to the news for the latest, but this one I thought I'd ask the closest source.... does anyone know if there have been any covid scares, or issues on the different cruises going out. One would think with these new high delta numbers that there would be something popping up on those boats.

[stanley]

There has been and always will be people who will feel threatened by "other" and do whatever it takes to put them down, in order to stay on top.

Yep.......that's quite obvious

[GrumpyOldMan]

The reason why it’s unbearable has nothing to do with Covid. It’s the same former 5 or 6 East coast people who’ve lived here forever inflicting themselves on others. It proves that living in the so called friendliest doesn’t really work.

This is absolutely amazing.

"inflicting themselves on others"

Seriously, which of us has come to your house and put a gun to your head forcing you to read posts you don't want to. So I take it that any discussion you don't want to hear should be banned... Got it.

[gregckinc]

only negative remarks on contractors and resturants.
Nobody writes anything positive or nice. These people are trying to make a living

[Joanne19335]

Totally agree. There are four or five posters that are the Covid Warriors. They will argue with each other ALL day long over the same thing. I'm surprised they actually take time out to eat. A couple of them post upwards of 50 times a day. If Covid ever goes away I wonder what these people will do? They'll have to learn to live life all over again.

I only pop in once or twice a day now just to see if there's anything related to The Villages and the lifestyle. If I want to get information on the state of Covid this isn't the place I'm going to do it.

Let’s whine about golf, course conditions, too much rain , not enough rain, the heat and dog poop.

[ThirdOfFive]

Between the coffee posts and the COVID posts, this forum is becoming un bearable.

(BTW, no on is changing anyone’s mind on masks or vaccines)
I disagree. TOTV is remarkably civil and restrained compared to many other like sites.

[jimjamuser]

Between the coffee posts and the COVID posts, this forum is becoming un bearable.

(BTW, no on is changing anyone’s mind on masks or vaccines)
That last statement about vaccine attitudes being fixed IS completely WRONG. In general, attitudes like fashion are constantly CHANGING. For example, Hula-hoops and bell-bottom pants have come and gone in fashion. It is the same for attitudes concerning Public Health - they are NOT fixed. Attitudes toward CV have been constantly changing since the Pandemic 1st came to the US. There are VERY IMPORTANT daily changes in the severity of CV that are affecting ALL Florida and US citizens.

The Delta variant is proving to be BOTH more contagious and MORE SEVERE! No one should try to HIDE from that news. Attitudes MUST change over that news. Also, Delta is putting more younger people in hospitals across the US. At a large Jacksonville hospital, the average of CV patients IS AGE 42. And statewide in Florida, 76% more people are getting VACCINATED this week than last week.

This proves that 76% of Floridians have CHANGED their attitudes toward vaccines. To believe that vaccine attitudes will NEVER change is to live in a PRETEND unchanging world. Ignoring important Public Health information can be more dangerous than taking the time to know the issues.

[Byte1]

I applaud TOTV for providing such a useful and great asset for residents and those thinking of becoming residents of The Villages.
I am worried just a bit when there are those on here that espouse the denial of the Freedom of Speech based solely on the idea that they find someone's opinion to be "unbearable."
I must be using the old version of software on my computers because I am able to disregard those subjects that I find "unbearable" and move on to subjects that I find interesting. Since I am not interested (anymore) in speed bumps, gates and dog poop, I simply move on past the subject and go to a subject I find interesting. Is it my version of software OR is it that I am not addicted to subjects that I am not interested in and am able to pass them by without wringing my hands as I read every detail. less I miss something?
It is interesting that the same folks that find it tedious to read posts that they do not agree with, are the same folks that listen to opinions on television and bow to so-called experts that are found in error on a weekly basis.
I would rather see NO censor than posts eliminated, BUT it is not my forum and I willingly agree to the rules, no matter how many times I unknowingly step over the line.

[fishon]

I like to drop in to see what the knuckleheads are whining about.:MOJE_whot:

[GrumpyOldMan]

I applaud TOTV for providing such a useful and great asset for residents and those thinking of becoming residents of The Villages.
I am worried just a bit when there are those on here that espouse the denial of the Freedom of Speech based solely on the idea that they find someone's opinion to be "unbearable."
I must be using the old version of software on my computers because I am able to disregard those subjects that I find "unbearable" and move on to subjects that I find interesting. Since I am not interested (anymore) in speed bumps, gates and dog poop, I simply move on past the subject and go to a subject I find interesting. Is it my version of software OR is it that I am not addicted to subjects that I am not interested in and am able to pass them by without wringing my hands as I read every detail. less I miss something?
It is interesting that the same folks that find it tedious to read posts that they do not agree with, are the same folks that listen to opinions on television and bow to so-called experts that are found in error on a weekly basis.
I would rather see NO censor than posts eliminated, BUT it is not my forum and I willingly agree to the rules, no matter how many times I unknowingly step over the line.

I agree completely. There are numerous threads I don't read. I guess my browser is defective and doesn't inflict me with arguments over dog poop.

[Taltarzac725]

I disagree. TOTV is remarkably civil and restrained compared to many other like sites.

Now that is very true.

[Annie66]

I was given a point on my record three days ago for directly addressing a poster and being unkind.

I did feel that my comments were not as unkind as other comments, but it is hard not to get all mad some times. Some people enjoy that happening and I think sometime it is the main reason for their posts.

It's their drug of choice. A lot cheaper for them than going to the pharmacy for their anti-depressants.

[Viperguy]

Too bad the mainstream media doesn't have your opinion.

[jimjamuser]

It has never been that way, in the history of this continent, let alone this country.

People considered "other" have been persecuted, shot, enslaved, killed, victimized, accused, provoked, disrespected, disparaged, oppressed, repressed, degraded, humiliated, for as long as there have been "other" for people to do these things to.

There has been and always will be people who will feel threatened by "other" and do whatever it takes to put them down, in order to stay on top.
This may be embedded in human genes from the Anthropological far back TRIBAL time. If someone is not recognized as MY tribal member they're the "stranger" and may try to kill ME. So, I must run back to my tribe and organize a HUNT for the "stranger". Today we have a very large, but unwieldy TRIBE called the United States and a smaller tribe called Florida - and those tribes disagree and function differently. And within Florida, we have various ethnic TRIBES. Depending on the real or perceived threat from some other TRIBE, we retreat to one of our other convenient TRIBES. The anthropological pressure within us may often overcome our modern logical ideas. It seems like an internal tug-of-war!

[Lakeside5012]

I have conservative values but I also value your comment. I agree with you about the value of civil debate.

[golfing eagles]

I completely agree.

Not to mention the idiocy of all the posts where the authors are constantly "rolling on the floor laughing"

If that's me, I like my three rolling on the floor laughing little men, so don't expect that to change. As far as "idiots" go, my IQ is 179, so, in comparison, who do you think I consider the "idiot"?????

[davem4616]

Between the coffee posts and the COVID posts, this forum is becoming un bearable.

(BTW, no on is changing anyone’s mind on masks or vaccines)



You have the ability to create an uplifting post that others will contribute to....

give it a try

[Msdafliz]

Wow!!!!! What a story!!! Thankfully you saw the light!!! Thanks for sharing!!!

[Dana1963]

only negative remarks on contractors and resturants.
Nobody writes anything positive or nice. These people are trying to make a living
Why would I give a positive review for a Contractor or Restaurant that is below average.
I’ve been out of the BUBBLE for 3 months and don’t miss the food at all actually most restaurants do the bare minimum of food it’s not about the quantity but the quality.
Tipping wages and hourly minimum wages are almost twice what is paid in The Villages YET Restaurant price are lower I have not found a $16 hamburger yet.
Grocery store prices are less than Publix, WD and WalMart only price more expensive than in TV are liquor if it’s not on sale!

[Gray lady of the sea]

Absolutely right !

[Spalumbos62]

If that's me, I like my three rolling on the floor laughing little men, so don't expect that to change. As far as "idiots" go, my IQ is 179, so, in comparison, who do you think I consider the "idiot"?????


I guess its OK that when someone states that something another one is doing, and it's annoying, and that first person comes back with...too bad, I like it and will continue...hummm....selfish???? Doesn't take a high IQ to figure that one out. In addition the fact that you state your actual score...again..hummmm???
(There are many,many people in TV with equally high IQ's- yet I've never heard one brag or post about it)
I think the intelligence shines when one figures out the flaw .

[tvbound]

I guess its OK that when someone states that something another one is doing, and it's annoying, and that first person comes back with...too bad, I like it and will continue...hummm....selfish???? Doesn't take a high IQ to figure that one out. In addition the fact that you state your actual score...again..hummmm???
(There are many,many people in TV with equally high IQ's- yet I've never heard one brag or post about it)
I think the intelligence shines when one figures out the flaw .

"There are many,many people in TV with equally high IQ's-yet I've never heard one brag or post about it"


Yeah, I found that to be pretty strange/weird also. Particularly given my own 197 - per WAIS. lol

[golfing eagles]

I guess its OK that when someone states that something another one is doing, and it's annoying, and that first person comes back with...too bad, I like it and will continue...hummm....selfish???? Doesn't take a high IQ to figure that one out. In addition the fact that you state your actual score...again..hummmm???
(There are many,many people in TV with equally high IQ's- yet I've never heard one brag or post about it)
I think the intelligence shines when one figures out the flaw .


If you don't like it, don't read it. And I posted it in response to the idiot that called me an idiot. If you don't like that, don't read it either.:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Bogie Shooter]

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[golfing eagles]

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Unfortunately, there are some here that would score in the single digits:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[aallbrand]

Half of us villagers cant remember what we has for dinner last night yet we give out medical advice, offer opinions based on fantasy and complain about it all .

When you mix senility and the internet this is what you get .

[golfing eagles]

Half of us villagers cant remember what we has for dinner last night yet we give out medical advice, offer opinions based on fantasy and complain about it all .

When you mix senility and the internet this is what you get .

Amen!

[Taltarzac725]

Un-Bearable | Bandipedia | Fandom (https://crashbandicoot.fandom.com/wiki/Un-Bearable)

This thread reminds me of Crash Bandicoot.

[tvbound]

Half of us villagers cant remember what we has for dinner last night yet we give out medical advice, offer opinions based on fantasy and complain about it all .

When you mix senility and the internet this is what you get .

Don't forget about those who believe simple longevity, automatically equates to being smarterer. lol

[Escape Artist]

All I know is that the opinions and mindset of many posters I have encountered on various threads on TOTV is not indicative of those I have met in the Villages community for the short time I've been here (spring 2021). Maybe it attracts all those high IQ types who need a place to pontificate? (I'd leave a ROLFL emojii if I could *wink*).

Seriously, though, the old adage is true - "opinions are like a****les, everybody's got one". If reading viewpoints on controversial subjects irritates or upsets you, don't click on any hot-button topic threads. Initially, I only used the forum for advice, referrals and information but then got sucked into The Dark Side, haha.

[GrumpyOldMan]

All I know is that the opinions and mindset of many posters I have encountered on various threads on TOTV is not indicative of those I have met in the Villages community for the short time I've been here (spring 2021). Maybe it attracts all those high IQ types who need a place to pontificate? (I'd leave a ROLFL emojii if I could *wink*).

Seriously, though, the old adage is true - "opinions are like a****les, everybody's got one". If reading viewpoints on controversial subjects irritates or upsets you, don't click on any hot-button topic threads. Initially, I only used the forum for advice, referrals and information but then got sucked into The Dark Side, haha.

Exactly, I don’t recall a single thread with a ambiguous title that could have accidentally have sucked someone into reading something they find upsetting.

[Spalumbos62]

If you don't like it, don't read it. And I posted it in response to the idiot that called me an idiot. If you don't like that, don't read it either.:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:


That us exactly what this forum is for.....to read it, like it, dislike it or make comments....I make my own choices. Ty

[golfing eagles]

That us exactly what this forum is for.....to read it, like it, dislike it or make comments....I make my own choices. Ty

Likewise:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Ben Franklin]

Between the coffee posts and the COVID posts, this forum is becoming un bearable.

(BTW, no on is changing anyone’s mind on masks or vaccines)

I agree, but don't you think posts like the one above, helps make it unbearable? We'll get through it though. Try sticking to the posts that interests you, then you won't have to complain.

One other thought on vaccines, if our parents or grandparents hadn't gotten the vaccines in 1918 and/or the 50s and 60s, those who refuse the vaccine today, might not be around now to complain, because they wouldn't have been born, if their grands and parents died from being unvaccinated.

[Escape Artist]

I agree, but don't you think posts like the one above, helps make it unbearable? We'll get through it though. Try sticking to the posts that interests you, then you won't have to complain.

One other thought on vaccines, if our parents or grandparents hadn't gotten the vaccines in 1918 and/or the 50s and 60s, those who refuse the vaccine today, might not be around now to complain, because they wouldn't have been born, if their grands and parents died from being unvaccinated.

Ummm, okay, but that argument has flaws. My parents lived through an era that was rife with polio and the vaccine didn't come into use until the 1950's. Summer was high season for the spread of that disease and kids were told not to go to public swimming pools, lakes, rivers, etc. but there were no mandates or heavy-handed actions like there are nowadays and polio was a highly contagious killer or could cause serious disabilities. My dad knew a child who died of it and I know someone who was affected but recovered.

The things they are vaccinating everyone for now were considered normal, childhood illnesses like chicken pox, mumps, measles. It's overkill on the vaccines. Not to mention things like Hep A and B, the former of which my doctor told me had to be given now because of all the foreign food service workers that had it and were infecting people.

The old days were a different time with most people in America on the same page when it came to public health and there wasn't the distrust of government like there is now. I remember getting vaccines when I was young, including small pox that left the round mark on your arm, and no one ever objected or gave it another thought.

Having said that, there was some controversy over the polio vaccine especially the Sabin one, I believe. It killed and injured a lot of children because there some some defect or contamination in the manufacturing process. People then became wary of getting it and there was a government-sponsored campaign to allay fears.

[jbcincy]

:bigbow::bigbow:I am sorry you feel that way (OP), definitely the reason there is the ignore list.

Personally, I want to have discussions with people I disagree with. I want to learn why they believe what they believe, I want people to challenge my views and beliefs. I have no use whatsoever with immature posts ridiculing and calling names. I will admit on occassion I get annoyed and post a sarcastic post that could be interpreted as ridicule, but I try not to.

So, I am glad we can disagree publically. I wish we could have a section for political discussions/arguments, which you have to join and agree to whatever to participate in, but I expect that is not going to happen.

And while I am an evil bleeding heart liberal, I have met several conservatives here that I highly respect both for their civility and for the well reasoned and well-spoken arguments.

[Villagesshopper]

Yet, you are here reading and posting, it’s a free site for folks that use it to post as you take that luxury and use it at free will. The owners of the site pay for it with advertising dollars, from businesses that advertise, i.e. the coffee guy that you referred to. Use some common sense and realize they’re paying for your pleasure. Don’t attack the advertisers, unless you’re willing to pay to be on the site, and after referencing your posts obviously you wouldn’t pay. Smarten up and be nice. Your negative opinion should be kept to your negative self. Have a nice day, If you were nicer to people, you’d spend less time on your computer. Don’t ruin it for the rest of us.

[Bogie Shooter]

Yet, you are here reading and posting, it’s a free site for folks that use it to post as you take that luxury and use it at free will. The owners of the site pay for it with advertising dollars, from businesses that advertise, i.e. the coffee guy that you referred to. Use some common sense and realize they’re paying for your pleasure. Don’t attack the advertisers, unless you’re willing to pay to be on the site, and after referencing your posts obviously you wouldn’t pay. Smarten up and be nice. Your negative opinion should be kept to your negative self. Have a nice day, If you were nicer to people, you’d spend less time on your computer. Don’t ruin it for the rest of us.
Which you?

[Stu from NYC]

Yet, you are here reading and posting, it’s a free site for folks that use it to post as you take that luxury and use it at free will. The owners of the site pay for it with advertising dollars, from businesses that advertise, i.e. the coffee guy that you referred to. Use some common sense and realize they’re paying for your pleasure. Don’t attack the advertisers, unless you’re willing to pay to be on the site, and after referencing your posts obviously you wouldn’t pay. Smarten up and be nice. Your negative opinion should be kept to your negative self. Have a nice day, If you were nicer to people, you’d spend less time on your computer. Don’t ruin it for the rest of us.

Do not know who you are referring to but when advertisers insult and ridicule people who ask questions about what they are selling, while posting misleading ideas, they deserve what they get.

[Babubhat]

Site would be much better if ignore list made posters invisible. Far too many comments like the dreadful Villages news.

[Curtisbwp]

Don't read it

[Boffin]

Just remember:
90302

[Chi-Town]

If that's me, I like my three rolling on the floor laughing little men, so don't expect that to change. As far as "idiots" go, my IQ is 179, so, in comparison, who do you think I consider the "idiot"?????

179 - wow. 25 points higher than Michio Kaku and considerably higher than Albert Einstein. Very impressive.

[Aces4]

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Hmmm, you would be required to pay for the full results. However, it states I was impressive and that I finished the test in 12m 58s which is faster than 97% of people tested. My strongest category is Visual Perception where I scored higher than 99% of people tested.

I’m taking the results with a grain of salt since they may be floating my boat so I will pay for the complete report. Well, I am smarter than that.:icon_wink:

[Ben Franklin]

Hmmm, you would be required to pay for the full results. However, it states I was impressive and that I finished the test in 12m 58s which is faster than 97% of people tested. My strongest category is Visual Perception where I scored higher than 99% of people tested.

I’m taking the results with a grain of salt since they may be floating my boat so I will pay for the complete report. Well, I am smarter than that.:icon_wink:

Haha, you're right. They want you to pay. I got - Impressive! You completed the test in: 6 m 7 s
That's faster than 97% of people tested.
Your strongest category is Pattern Recognition where you scored higher than 99% of people tested.

[Mrprez]

Yep, told me the same thing.

[Escape Artist]

All this talk about high IQ's has me wondering if The Villages has a chapter of MENSA?

[Aces4]

Haha, you're right. They want you to pay. I got - Impressive! You completed the test in: 6 m 7 s
That's faster than 97% of people tested.
Your strongest category is Pattern Recognition where you scored higher than 99% of people tested.


Yeah, makes one wonder how many people already sent their money in for the results.:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: I must be at least as bright as Golfing Eagles, henceforth the rolling on the floor icon. :icon_wink:

[coffeebean]

I got a point for calling out a ghoul :(

This is the third post I've read about points just today. What are these points all about?

[ROCKMUP]

All this talk about high IQ's has me wondering if The Villages has a chapter of MENSA?

It'd be a party of one.

[GrumpyOldMan]

This is the third post I've read about points just today. What are these points all about?

Getting called out by a moderate in a PM.

[coffeebean]

Haha, you're right. They want you to pay. I got - Impressive! You completed the test in: 6 m 7 s
That's faster than 97% of people tested.
Your strongest category is Pattern Recognition where you scored higher than 99% of people tested.

Well........I'm an analytical thinker! Who would have guessed?

[coffeebean]

Getting called out by a moderate in a PM.

Oh, thanks.

[Seasonal]

.
And the 'usual suspects' who simply have to post their 1-5 words rsp or silly emoticons. Gets very old.


The few members that need to reply to each and every thread, have never written anything helpful or interesting need to join a few more TV clubs or golf more. Their posts are very tiring. I suspect that those that have to live with them are glad they found a hobby, thread crapping, so they get free time to enjoy their retirement and the many activities at TV.

[Bogie Shooter]

The few members that need to reply to each and every thread, have never written anything helpful or interesting need to join a few more TV clubs or golf more. Their posts are very tiring. I suspect that those the have to live with them are glad that they found a hobby, thread crapping, so that they get free time to enjoy their retirement and the many activities at TV.

Consider the ignore feature……..

[TheTourVan]

I am a new member of this forum. I am also involved in a very large golf forum and understand the idea of dealing with thousands of different personalities. On that forum there is a new politics and no COVID conversation in place because apparently the two cannot be separated.

I like this forum. With that said, in just two days of being a member, I already received a PM telling me that TV is mostly Red and bashing the former President. This person doesn't know my political thoughts, nor should they care. Just as I am not here to discuss that.

I long for the days that people didn't discuss it, because it brings out the worst in people.

[PennBF]

Difficulty for the Managers of The TOTV's is to not restrict free speech and at the same
time provide consequences for those that break the "spirit" of the purpose of TOTV's!
Personally I would like to see those who use the forum not to provide a constructive input to the point but rather a wise guy response which is intended to be what it is an abuse of the purpose of the respected forum in which serious people try to express ideas, help, opinions, etc etc. Those that try to violate this should after the first time cannot use the forum for 6 months and after that "never". I am sure those who are serious users for the purpose it was created would approve of this solution and rely on the Manager's judgements. I believe that after the first few examples of this consequence the wise guys will dry up!:popcorn:

[DAVES]

I am a new member of this forum. I am also involved in a very large golf forum and understand the idea of dealing with thousands of different personalities. On that forum there is a new politics and no COVID conversation in place because apparently the two cannot be separated.

I like this forum. With that said, in just two days of being a member, I already received a PM telling me that TV is mostly Red and bashing the former President. This person doesn't know my political thoughts, nor should they care. Just as I am not here to discuss that.

I long for the days that people didn't discuss it, because it brings out the worst in people.

I find history interesting. Not the stuff fed to us in politically corrected, public school indoctrination. So much of what we think are new problems, issues are historically very old. Most people think they have an opened mind. The key to starting an intense argument is just point out to them that their opened mind. They only see one side to every issue. In terms of history imagine, American Revolution, Civil War, WWI, great depression, WW2, Korean war, Vietnam, Cuban Missal crisis imagine any of these posters there. People have not changed as much as we think they have.

I may be lying to myself but, you learn more from people who disagree with you than from people who agree with you. Again, people and what they are. Most people choose to associate with people who agree with them. Most people are essentially talking to themselves.

Truth, sadly funny. About two years ago, I received an e-mail actually more than one, all my friends agree with me-I am unfriending you. Where we are and how we got here.

[TheTourVan]

Difficulty for the Managers of The TOTV's is to not restrict free speech and at the same
time provide consequences for those that break the "spirit" of the purpose of TOTV's!
Personally I would like to see those who use the forum not to provide a constructive input to the point but rather a wise guy response which is intended to be what it is an abuse of the purpose of the respected forum in which serious people try to express ideas, help, opinions, etc etc. Those that try to violate this should after the first time cannot use the forum for 6 months and after that "never". I am sure those who are serious users for the purpose it was created would approve of this solution and rely on the Manager's judgements. I believe that after the first few examples of this consequence the wise guys will dry up!:popcorn:

Free speech has little to do with it.
Example. If you create a forum about horseback riding, and a new member joins and every post is about model airplanes, it would be easy to kindly say "this forum is not about that, and we kindly ask that you stay on topic".

Elimination of topics is more about staying on the topic at hand, rather than removing any pattern of free speech.

[DAVES]

Difficulty for the Managers of The TOTV's is to not restrict free speech and at the same
time provide consequences for those that break the "spirit" of the purpose of TOTV's!
Personally I would like to see those who use the forum not to provide a constructive input to the point but rather a wise guy response which is intended to be what it is an abuse of the purpose of the respected forum in which serious people try to express ideas, help, opinions, etc etc. Those that try to violate this should after the first time cannot use the forum for 6 months and after that "never". I am sure those who are serious users for the purpose it was created would approve of this solution and rely on the Manager's judgements. I believe that after the first few examples of this consequence the wise guys will dry up!:popcorn:

So much of what we fight about are impossible to define. Life, Liberty and The Pursuit of Happiness. Catchy words but what do they mean? It would take books to discuss any of the three.

Freedom of the press? Freedom of information? There are hundreds of books on that subject as well.

"The Manager's judgements." I don't know but as this is open 24 hours a day seven days a week, I can't imagine there is only one manager. People being people, I will bet if there are two or three or whatever, they do not agree on every call.

HATE is a word used far too often by far too many people. I work hard to keep my HATE list empty. Right now it is empty. Unfortunately, there are several people pounding on the door, trying to get on the list.

[DAVES]

Free speech has little to do with it.
Example. If you create a forum about horseback riding, and a new member joins and every post is about model airplanes, it would be easy to kindly say "this forum is not about that, and we kindly ask that you stay on topic".

Elimination of topics is more about staying on the topic at hand, rather than removing any pattern of free speech.

As I've tried to state, important terms such as free speech, there is no shortage of books on the subject. A thread, a conversation must rely on words. Words are subject to interpretation. Assuming the point is true, "a new member," perhaps, someone needs to speak to them privately. Issues in public, written, are often not the best place or the best way to handle problems.

Staying on topic, another interesting concept. Reality does not happen as we must discuss it due to the limits of conversation, particularly written communication.
Reality happens all at once. We can only discuss one thing at a time but reality is not like that.

[Bilyclub]

I don't need any points. I'm on a poster's hit list for being in a alleged conspiracy to overthrow the developer.

:shocked::shocked::duck:

[TheTourVan]

As I've tried to state, important terms such as free speech, there is no shortage of books on the subject. A thread, a conversation must rely on words. Words are subject to interpretation. Assuming the point is true, "a new member," perhaps, someone needs to speak to them privately. Issues in public, written, are often not the best place or the best way to handle problems.

Staying on topic, another interesting concept. Reality does not happen as we must discuss it due to the limits of conversation, particularly written communication.
Reality happens all at once. We can only discuss one thing at a time but reality is not like that.

I definitely do not agree.
The other forum is about golf. We have specific rules eliminating any conversation about politics. Any posts about that are removed. With hundreds of thousands of readers, we are sure there are an angry few that do not like the policy, and for that we say the internet is a big place and while we aim to please all, its impossible. This forum is about the Villages. If people want to make it about covid, masks, politics, etc then they will find it no more useful than Facebook in short order.

It's a shame too, because there are thousands of great people in TV and most want to discuss the good and the bad about the area and not deal with that stuff on a message board like this.

[graciegirl]

Don't forget about those who believe simple longevity, automatically equates to being smarterer. lol

A lot of us grew up with that belief and even were taught to respect our elders. I do think that most people gain knowledge along with experience and compassion as they age.

[JMintzer]

It's amazing how many people feel it is annoying to HAVE TO READ all those posts.

hmmm...

Sometimes you don't know what's inside the chocolate until you take a bite...

Then it's that hard, honeycomb looking crap...

[JMintzer]

I guess papa L has not gotten vaccinated and doesn’t intend to. All I can say is hopefully he will not get sick and pass on with a respirator in his throat.

Papa L, remain safe and healthy and hopefully you don’t infect other people causing lose of life!!

And you know this how?

I've had covid, been vaccinated and I'm sick of hearing the same arguments, day and day out...

[JMintzer]

Let’s whine about golf, course conditions, too much rain , not enough rain, the heat and dog poop.

I've got some sangria marinating...

Oh, wait, wrong whine... :1rotfl:

[JMintzer]

That last statement about vaccine attitudes being fixed IS completely WRONG. In general, attitudes like fashion are constantly CHANGING. For example, Hula-hoops and bell-bottom pants have come and gone in fashion. It is the same for attitudes concerning Public Health - they are NOT fixed. Attitudes toward CV have been constantly changing since the Pandemic 1st came to the US. There are VERY IMPORTANT daily changes in the severity of CV that are affecting ALL Florida and US citizens.

The Delta variant is proving to be BOTH more contagious and MORE SEVERE! No one should try to HIDE from that news. Attitudes MUST change over that news. Also, Delta is putting more younger people in hospitals across the US. At a large Jacksonville hospital, the average of CV patients IS AGE 42. And statewide in Florida, 76% more people are getting VACCINATED this week than last week.

This proves that 76% of Floridians have CHANGED their attitudes toward vaccines. To believe that vaccine attitudes will NEVER change is to live in a PRETEND unchanging world. Ignoring important Public Health information can be more dangerous than taking the time to know the issues.

And, once again, not one source to back up these "facts"...

[Papa_lecki]

And you know this how?

I've had covid, been vaccinated and I'm sick of hearing the same arguments, day and day out...

Actually Gizmo, not that it’s any of your business, I got vaccinated at Walmart on 441 in March.

Bottom line, it was my choice, not someone else’s.

[Papa_lecki]

I've got some sangria marinating...

Oh, wait, wrong whine... :1rotfl:

That was my point on the original post - lets talk of The Villages,
someone painted their house the wrong color, the guy at the family pool has his radio too loud, the water’s too cold, the band at Brownwood sucked last night, who’s the best pool builder?

All the COVID/Vaccination talk does is divide us. We are all smart people, we can read about what’s going on.

If you want, create a site called Talk of COVID.

If the admins want this site to generate traffic/views, which in turn generates revenue for them, reign it in.
Yes, there are a lot of posts, but its the same people - a more profitable digital medium has interaction by a lot of people.

[JMintzer]

Actually Gizmo, not that it’s any of your business, I got vaccinated at Walmart on 441 in March.

Bottom line, it was my choice, not someone else’s.

Dude, I was defending you...

Save your sass for the person who attacked you...

[Papa_lecki]

Dude, I was defending you...

Save your sass for the person who attacked you...

I know, the guy you quoted was Gizemo33 (I wasn’t calling you Gizzmo).

You’re one of the guys i enjoy reading here

[John41]

Haha, you're right. They want you to pay. I got - Impressive! You completed the test in: 6 m 7 s
That's faster than 97% of people tested.
Your strongest category is Pattern Recognition where you scored higher than 99% of people tested.

Yeah and there are beautiful Russian women wanting to meet me if I pay for full site access.

[JMintzer]

I know, the guy you quoted was Gizemo33 (I wasn’t calling you Gizzmo).

You’re one of the guys i enjoy reading here

Thanks, but I was confused when you quoted me talking to Gizmo...

[GrumpyOldMan]

Sometimes you don't know what's inside the chocolate until you take a bite...

Then it's that hard, honeycomb looking crap...

So true, I try to always put a trigger word in my thread title to warn people. But I think a lot of people get sucked in by curiosity, and then it is like the train wreck that they can't look away from.

[MDLNB]

That was my point on the original post - lets talk of The Villages,
someone painted their house the wrong color, the guy at the family pool has his radio too loud, the water’s too cold, the band at Brownwood sucked last night, who’s the best pool builder?

All the COVID/Vaccination talk does is divide us. We are all smart people, we can read about what’s going on.

If you want, create a site called Talk of COVID.

If the admins want this site to generate traffic/views, which in turn generates revenue for them, reign it in.
Yes, there are a lot of posts, but its the same people - a more profitable digital medium has interaction by a lot of people.


Wow, what's wrong with a conversation about COVID? It's interesting and if I get bored with it I know how to exit out of the discussion.

Not calling any names but there sure seems to be a lot of sensitive folks using TOTV. I guess my parent's generation was the last of the Tough Americans because I sure see a lot of PC cr@p being enforced. If our generation is this soft I don't know how the next generation is going to survive.



I agree with the other poster on here that "applauds" the TOTV for their service. When folks are not able to get out and about it's nice that they can converse with peers of their generation.



Thank you TOTV for the great service. :clap2::clap2::clap2:

[Boomer]

I've got some sangria marinating...

Oh, wait, wrong whine... :1rotfl:


I am so glad you said that. I have not made sangria all summer. I will tomorrow.

I soak the fruit in Grand Marnier. I like to throw in a peach if I have a good one.

uh, oh. . .I digress. . .back to topic. . .