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boxcarwilly
08-02-2021, 06:09 PM
Lot of rain lately..do you pool owners discharge down your driveway to the street drains, discharge into your yard or?

shut the front door
08-02-2021, 06:18 PM
Never had to discharge. Why would you? I've been through 3 days of hurricane rain and never needed to discharge.
Is your pool overflowing into your living room?

DAVES
08-02-2021, 06:45 PM
Lot of rain lately..do you pool owners discharge down your driveway to the street drains, discharge into your yard or?

We do not have a pool. Some questions are better off not asked. I think the law is you need to hold it for a period of time to allow the chlorine to dissipate. Some people have saltwater pools. The salt, first of all does not dissipate and it will damage plants.

This is the wet season. We have not yet gotten a major rain storm.

GoPacers
08-02-2021, 07:16 PM
Lot of rain lately..do you pool owners discharge down your driveway to the street drains, discharge into your yard or?

We have an auto leveling system. 1/2" PVC pipe Into the yard. It doesn't drain that much.

boxcarwilly
08-02-2021, 08:44 PM
Never had to discharge. Why would you? I've been through 3 days of hurricane rain and never needed to discharge.
Is your pool overflowing into your living room?
Dumb response my friend..rain adds inches..it is normal to pump excess.:boxing2:

Goldwingnut
08-02-2021, 08:50 PM
T&D is the primary builder of pools in The Villages, for years now their standard installation includes a level control system, the auto fill is controlled by the same type of valve as is in a toilet tank and the overflow line is a 1/2 in. line that drains into the yard. Simple system that works well.

boxcarwilly
08-02-2021, 09:06 PM
TD did our pool but no auto fill...would be a nice feature though. Hayward Tristar can drop an inch in 10 minutes when needed.

Graspher
08-02-2021, 09:40 PM
We have a TD installed pool. No overflow feature. There is an “auto leveling” line plumbed in but we capped it off.

2 years so far and never needed to draw down the water level. If needed we have a 175’ 2” flexible hose that attaches to the pool pump and discharges into the street gutter.

We manually top off the pool when needed - haven’t had to in almost 4 months.

Chi-Town
08-02-2021, 09:48 PM
If needed there is a hose that would run down the driveway to the street drain. Has never been used.

Kenswing
08-02-2021, 10:14 PM
If needed there is a hose that would run down the driveway to the street drain. Has never been used.We also have a 2" lay flat hose attached to our pump. When T&D needed to do repairs to our tile they rolled that hose out to the street and pumped away.

We also have the auto fill/drain system. I keep the valve closed to the auto fill. If you ever have a leak or your float somehow gets set higher than the overflow you'll never know it until you get your water bill. For the most part the rain is keeping the pool full. If we run into a dry stretch and we lose too much water due to evaporation I'll turn the valve on, fill to desired level then close the valve again.

Windguy
08-03-2021, 04:54 AM
If needed there is a hose that would run down the driveway to the street drain. Has never been used.

That’s a big no-no. Water should go into your yard—not the storm sewers.

http://www.cityoforlando.net/waterreclamation/summer-is-here-and-its-pool-time/ (http://http://www.cityoforlando.net/waterreclamation/summer-is-here-and-its-pool-time/)

shut the front door
08-03-2021, 05:52 AM
Dumb response my friend..rain adds inches..it is normal to pump excess.:boxing2:

Apparently it isn't so normal here. See all the responses from people that have never needed to. Where are all the responses from people who have had to do so?
(I'm not dumb, and I'm not your friend)

Tagpic
08-03-2021, 06:06 AM
I have lived here for about 5 years and had to drain a little after heavy rains maybe only 3 times. At the pool stores they sell a bright blue plastic hose that attached to your filter and can drain water if needed. Pools here are not that big, so you are not pulling off much water. I too have a leveler, but never saw it take water out, only in when water evaporated during a drought. The other end of the hose gets put into the grass or beds near filter. It has never killed the grass or plants. Did it that way up north for 20 years.

NotGolfer
08-03-2021, 06:26 AM
Did you ask the folks who installed your pool? I'd start there......

eeroger
08-03-2021, 06:30 AM
Lot of rain lately..do you pool owners discharge down your driveway to the street drains, discharge into your yard or?

We have an auto fill installed and a pipe that drains excess water from pool. Anytime there is a heavy rain we see the excess water draining right outside the pool/bird cage area. You can't drain a lot of water from a salt pool into the yard because it will kill the grass. If repair is needed, T&D drains the pool directly into the storm drain. I have seen this done several times in our neighborhood. Most of the pools in my neighborhood are at least 16,000 gallons.

crash
08-03-2021, 06:32 AM
Never had to discharge. Why would you? I've been through 3 days of hurricane rain and never needed to discharge.
Is your pool overflowing into your living room?

Your pool probably has a self leveling float that discharges to the drain when it gets full. All the Rec center pools have this feature.

crash
08-03-2021, 06:37 AM
We also have a 2" lay flat hose attached to our pump. When T&D needed to do repairs to our tile they rolled that hose out to the street and pumped away.

We also have the auto fill/drain system. I keep the valve closed to the auto fill. If you ever have a leak or your float somehow gets set higher than the overflow you'll never know it until you get your water bill. For the most part the rain is keeping the pool full. If we run into a dry stretch and we lose too much water due to evaporation I'll turn the valve on, fill to desired level then close the valve again.

For my friend that was 70,000 gallons before he discovered it. Bill was over $500 because it is potable water filling the pool he also got a large sewer discharge fee.

crash
08-03-2021, 06:39 AM
That’s a big no-no. Water should go into your yard—not the storm sewers.

http://www.cityoforlando.net/waterreclamation/summer-is-here-and-its-pool-time/ (http://http://www.cityoforlando.net/waterreclamation/summer-is-here-and-its-pool-time/)

Where do you think the water goes from your yard? Into the storm drains

Oneiric
08-03-2021, 07:20 AM
All pools have an autofill device which has a 1 inch vertical standpipe inside fixed at the proper level of the pool water. When the level gets too high from rain, it overflows into this standpipe out into the side yard. Even with a heavy rain, the outflow is very modest, similar to a garden hose turned on low flow.

art32163
08-03-2021, 07:20 AM
I am looking at purchasing a pool and now have a second question, where does the back wash filter water go???

TNLAKEPANDA
08-03-2021, 07:24 AM
We have an auto drain but it takes a very long time to drop the level. If the pool water gets too high like right now I let the pump drain it down onto the grass. There is not enough chlorine to damage the grass!

TNLAKEPANDA
08-03-2021, 07:26 AM
I am looking at purchasing a pool and now have a second question, where does the back wash filter water go???

They don’t use sand filters here in Florida so no need to backwash. Just replace the fil when needed about once a year.

DAVES
08-03-2021, 07:59 AM
Apparently it isn't so normal here. See all the responses from people that have never needed to. Where are all the responses from people who have had to do so?
(I'm not dumb, and I'm not your friend)

There is no shortage of people posting who if they ever had manners think they are antique. Where we are and how we got here.

butlerism
08-03-2021, 08:00 AM
Previous Pool Company Owner here.

Discharge onto your lawn.

If that kills your grass think twice about the chemicals being put in your pool.

Chorine Generators (Salt Pools) will not kill your grass. Chlorine Tablets...... a 50/50.
Highly recommend salt conversion.

Avoid Biocidal additives that contain Copper elements. Copper infused chemicals will kill fish, and you, when the water goes to the lakes from the storm drains.

sixfootrabbit
08-03-2021, 08:22 AM
..do you pool owners discharge down your driveway to the street drains, discharge into your yard or?[/QUOTE] When I bought my home in 2014 I noticed that we had a dead spot in the back yard that appeared to be from the pool overflow. After several years of trying to grow grass there, we had an underdrain for the pool discharge installed. No more dead grass. Almost all of the pools in TV are salt water, not chloring.

Dana1963
08-03-2021, 08:30 AM
Lot of rain lately..do you pool owners discharge down your driveway to the street drains, discharge into your yard or?
A perplexing problem BUT if you were not here what would happen. Living in South Florida we had an automatic overflow never had a problem with chlorine or salt damaging plants or lawn. With excessive rain there was more of a problem keeping chlorine or salt at acceptable levels.

champion6
08-03-2021, 08:30 AM
<snip> Almost all of the pools in TV are salt water, not chlorine.The salt in the water is converted to chlorine by the chlorination cell. So ... the water in your pool has salt AND chlorine. Enjoy!

Eve2278
08-03-2021, 10:24 AM
Pools usually have a built in drain for overflow so no matter how much rain you get it won't overflow onto your lanai.

Charlie.hanf
08-03-2021, 11:54 AM
We had to re-grout the tiles at the waterline of our pool. T & D came, closed the auto-fill valve, and drained a few inches of water (through a hose that could reach the street from the pump) to allow dry access to the tiles. The next day, they reopened the auto-fill valve and the level came up. Other than that, we have never needed to drain our pool.

Silver Streak
08-03-2021, 02:36 PM
Our lanai/pool backs up to a retention pond so when the water level goes above the top of the skimmer (so it can't skim) we hook a long hose to the pump and drain it down the hill. Takes about half an hour to bring the level down an inch or more. (Not true that all pools have an auto-level. Even those that do can't always keep up with really heavy rain.)

Bogie Shooter
08-03-2021, 03:38 PM
All pools have an autofill device which has a 1 inch vertical standpipe inside fixed at the proper level of the pool water. When the level gets too high from rain, it overflows into this standpipe out into the side yard. Even with a heavy rain, the outflow is very modest, similar to a garden hose turned on low flow.

Mine doesn’t.

photo1902
08-03-2021, 03:57 PM
Mine doesn’t.

An auto-fill is different from an overflow device. And you're right Bogie, not all pools are built the same. Some have one, the other, or both. Or neither.

jimkerr
08-03-2021, 07:31 PM
You should use one of those flat drain hoses you unroll. Roll it to your curb and drain as needed.

Graspher
08-03-2021, 09:43 PM
If repair is needed, T&D drains the pool directly into the storm drain. I have seen this done several times in our neighborhood. Most of the pools in my neighborhood are at least 16,000 gallons.

That’s status quo for TD. I drained to the street when I needed to replace the pool water.

By the way - the fire department will not fill ur pool. It took 24 hours of domestic water to fill out pool.

lkagele
08-03-2021, 10:18 PM
Lot of rain lately..do you pool owners discharge down your driveway to the street drains, discharge into your yard or?

Check you skimmer. Mine has an overflow tube that feeds directly into the lanai drain system that drains into my grass. In overflow situations, there's much more water going into the drain system from the lanai surface than from the pool overflow. Any chemicals being discharged from the pool are diluted considerably from the water from the lanai surface. I've never had any damage to the grass near the discharge area.

boxcarwilly
08-04-2021, 06:01 PM
[QUOTE=lkagele;1983182]Check you skimmer. Mine has an overflow tube that feeds directly into the lanai drain system that drains into my grass. In overflow situations, there's much more water going into the drain system from the lanai surface than from the pool overflow. Any chemicals being discharged from the pool are diluted considerably from the water from the lanai surface. I've never had any damage to the grass near the discharge area.[/QUOTE


What is your overflow level..our normal happy pool level is 1/2 way up the skimmer port.Is that where yours starts to auto drain? After todays hard rain our pool level is at the top of the skimmer port.I will research overflow and see what we have or don't have. It is a Pentair unit. Edit: had the full length of deck drain caps off a while ago to clean but didn't see any tie in...but then again i wasn't looking for it either.

lkagele
08-04-2021, 08:45 PM
[QUOTE=lkagele;1983182]Check you skimmer. Mine has an overflow tube that feeds directly into the lanai drain system that drains into my grass. In overflow situations, there's much more water going into the drain system from the lanai surface than from the pool overflow. Any chemicals being discharged from the pool are diluted considerably from the water from the lanai surface. I've never had any damage to the grass near the discharge area.[/QUOTE


What is your overflow level..our normal happy pool level is 1/2 way up the skimmer port.Is that where yours starts to auto drain? After todays hard rain our pool level is at the top of the skimmer port.I will research overflow and see what we have or don't have. It is a Pentair unit. Edit: had the full length of deck drain caps off a while ago to clean but didn't see any tie in...but then again i wasn't looking for it either.

Yes, my drain tube is about 1/2 way up from the top of the skimmer basket.

Jimmy Lee
09-06-2021, 09:01 AM
When pool maintenance companies drain water out of a pool they don't run a hose to the nearest retention pond, they run their hose to the street so the water will go down a storm drain. But, where does the water from the storm drain go? Into the nearest retention pond, the same as all the rainwater that enters the storm drains. When the chlorine in the pool water contacts the high level of organics in the retention pond water it is immediately neutralized.

If we take the surface area of all the swimming pools in The Villages and divide it by the total surface area of The Villages property we could calculate the theoretical maximum percentage of swimming pool water overflowing into the retention ponds and the percentage by which it is raising the salt content of the ponds. We would see that the salt from the pools is diluted with quadrillions of times more rainwater. Rainwater, is essentually distilled water, but in Florida, especially in coastal areas there is some salt content in rainwater. The amount of salt in our rainwater will vary with weather conditions and these variations will totally outweigh the infinitesimally small amount of salt added from overflowing swimming pools.

tophcfa
09-06-2021, 09:17 AM
Our pool is also an auto leveler. I discharges out into our back yard. Anything growing near the discharge gets killed by the salt water. I built a trench with a landscape barrier on either side that channels all the water under the fence bordering the overgrown wildlife preserve in our back yard.

DAVES
09-08-2021, 11:16 AM
Apparently it isn't so normal here. See all the responses from people that have never needed to. Where are all the responses from people who have had to do so?
(I'm not dumb, and I'm not your friend)

To quote Mark Twain. Something like, we do not make any progress because we loose what was. For far to many they have lost MANNERS and or good taste.

wlasowicz
09-08-2021, 07:13 PM
assuming its a swimming pool it will have a filtration system right? You occasionally have to back wash your filter am I correct ? If so were does the water go ? When my pool gets a lot of water from heavy rain I back wash the filter which drains out the excess water