Switch to propane gas from electric only?

[lstevenson1470]

I hate electric stoves, but Pine Ridge doesn't have gas. I would like to have a propane tank buried and switch to a gas stove. Has anyone done this?

[Koapaka]

Just wondering, are you aware of induction cooking options and how much less expensive it would be than to do the gas conversion??? With a swap out like this, you would be getting the control you want on heat settings. A fraction of the cost for what you are wanting to achieve. https://www.homedepot.com/p/FRIGIDAIRE-GALLERY-30-in-5-4-cu-ft-Front-Control-Induction-Range-with-Air-Fry-in-Stainless-Steel-FGIH3047VF/311224897#product-section-overview

[TedfromGA]

We had a 250 gallon propane tank buried in our yard to service a generator. We also had a line run to service a gas stove and an outside grill. All this required approval from ARC and cost around $13 grand for generator and installation. We use about 50 gallons of propane / year with the generator running for 10 minutes each week plus the gas stove and grill. If we loose power the generator will power the house for about 5 days.

If you just want a gas stove (and maybe an outlet for gas grill) you don't want a 250 gallon tank buried. An outside 50 gallon would be sufficient to cover your use for a year. The questions are: a) can you place such a tank above ground next to your house?; b) if not then can a 50 gallon tank be buried - check with the propane supplier?; c) in any case check with ARC to determine if approval is required. Cost for this type of solution should be well under $1 grand.

[Dan9871]

Just wondering, are you aware of induction cooking

+1 on induction cooktop. Heating is quick, about the same as gas, very quick to heat up. Some have temp controlled burner too.

[lstevenson1470]

Regarding the induction stoves, do they reduce head quickly as well as heat up quickly? I'm always missjudging the temperatures before I walk away. For example, I get a nice simmer, watch for a minute, an then walk away. And it burns or boils over. Or I reduce temperature, watch for a minute for a nice simmer, walk away and when I get back it isn't simmering.

[DAVES]

I hate electric stoves, but Pine Ridge doesn't have gas. I would like to have a propane tank buried and switch to a gas stove. Has anyone done this?

Our previous home, not in Florida we had gas. I do not like electric stoves either. However unlike here we had a basement. The gas was in iron pipes, actually they are steel. I know several people have installed buried tanks. It looks kind of like a submarine. The line coming off that huge tank is PLASTIC. Distribution is in your attic-above your head called a manifold.

Electric stoves, there are many different types. The one we have, supplied by the builder
has continuously variable heat control. Not the old type that had or has click steps.
The way ours works it achieves the chosen temperature by being on FULL for various times. You need to LEARN how to let that horse know you are the boss. Top power is only good to boil water. If, you try to rush it, it will surely burn your food. I have a COPPER disc that I use under pots as needed. We have quality stainless steel pots with either THICK aluminum or copper bottoms.

[bandsdavis]

Yes we did exactly this a number of years ago in the Village of St. Charles. Total installation cost, including the permit, was under $1300. Suburban Propane out of Wildwood did the entire job for us and did a great job. You do have to get approval but they helped with that as well. I highly recommend it. Had an ocassion recently to cook on an electric stove again while travelling and it reminded me why I made the switch. As you mentioned in a later post, the problem is getting the setting correct when going down in temp, like for simmering.

[DAVES]

Regarding the induction stoves, do they reduce head quickly as well as heat up quickly? I'm always missjudging the temperatures before I walk away. For example, I get a nice simmer, watch for a minute, an then walk away. And it burns or boils over. Or I reduce temperature, watch for a minute for a nice simmer, walk away and when I get back it isn't simmering.

As said in my previous post, you need to teach that horse who is the boss. Unlike gas, the temperature does not change as fast particularly when you turn down the heat. I regularly make quantities of stuff like lentil soup, pea soup etc in large old pressure cookers.
I've even mastered that without burning. That was tough. Three or four gallons of burnt tasting soup is truly a disaster.

[bluedivergirl]

Regarding the induction stoves, do they reduce head quickly as well as heat up quickly? I'm always missjudging the temperatures before I walk away. For example, I get a nice simmer, watch for a minute, an then walk away. And it burns or boils over. Or I reduce temperature, watch for a minute for a nice simmer, walk away and when I get back it isn't simmering.

They do. I've had a Samsung Induction for about 3+ years. I can have a teapot on full rolling boil, screaming like mad, turn the heat off and it stops whistling immediately.

You have to have magnetic pans. I chose All-Clad, and filled in with odds and ends from TJMaxx.

You will pay more for induction, but you just plug the range in, slide into place and you're done. No digging in the back yard.

I would do it again in a heartbeat.

[Dan9871]

Regarding the induction stoves, do they reduce head quickly as well as heat up quickly? I'm always missjudging the temperatures before I walk away. For example, I get a nice simmer, watch for a minute, an then walk away. And it burns or boils over. Or I reduce temperature, watch for a minute for a nice simmer, walk away and when I get back it isn't simmering.

Yes, they reduce as quickly as they heat up.

[Papa_lecki]

If you just want a gas stove (and maybe an outlet for gas grill) you don't want a 250 gallon tank buried. An outside 50 gallon would be sufficient to cover your use for a year. The questions are: a) can you place such a tank above ground next to your house?; b) if not then can a 50 gallon tank be buried - check with the propane supplier?; c) in any case check with ARC to determine if approval is required. Cost for this type of solution should be well under $1 grand.

I looked into it, you can not have an above ground propane tank - must be buried.

[DAVES]

I looked into it, you can not have an above ground propane tank - must be buried.

Not at all surprised, Not at all a common event but a propane tank is a bomb. Picture a home on fire. Heat plus flammable gas under pressure. A buried tank has no choice but to blow upwards not out.

The person driving the delivery truck, gets extra pay for hazardous cargo. We do not get paid when we drive on the same road.

[jdulej]

We were going to convert from electric to gas about two years ago. We already have a 90 gal propane tank for our spa and the spa heater sits right outside the kitchen, so the conversion would be easy.
Unfortunately, the Whirlpool Gold cook top the house came with had a cutout hole in the counter top one inch longer than every gas cook top sold in the USA. I could not believe it!
As luck would have it, Bosch induction cook tops require a cutout that matches the Whirlpool, so we went that route and have been very happy with it.

Bottom line - don't assume things will fit. Measure (twice!).

[Gntlewind]

I hate electric stoves, but Pine Ridge doesn't have gas. I would like to have a propane tank buried and switch to a gas stove. Has anyone done this?
We have switched the propane at both of the houses that we owned in the villages. It’s really easy to do and just as safe as having electricity in your house. My wife only wants to cook on gas for the same reasons that you quote it. Suburban Propane will do it for you and make it easy. If the gas pipes are run in the attic, they are just as safe as your electric lines.

[Rwirish]

Nope, no one has ever done this.

[RealJudy]

Yes. Contact Architectural Review Committee for approval.

[Aloha1]

We had a 125 gallon propane tank buried when we built in Pine Ridge. Runs our cook top and BBQ grill. I'm the chef in the family and I DETEST electric cooktops. Either Suburban or T & D Propane can do the job including the permits. Then go to Lowe's and order an American made DACOR cooktop. You won't be sorry.

[Newvilla]

Coming from the Midwest where gas stoves are common, I bought a gas stove after moving to Florida. The waste heat coming from a gas stove is considerable when your A/C is running strong in the summer. The kitchen was hot when I used it. I switched back to electric.

[Dendrn]

I always had high end gas cooktop and loved them. Here we went with Wolf Induction and I will never go back to gas. If you prefer gas over electric you will love induction over gas. It is a different way of cooking and food taste better. Try cooking an egg on all three and you will be amazed at the flavor and texture on induction.

[stevemeriam]

I hate electric stoves, but Pine Ridge doesn't have gas. I would like to have a propane tank buried and switch to a gas stove. Has anyone done this?

Yes, we did have a propane tank buried in our back yard when the house was built in chitty chatty. It can be done. Contact T & D propane. Good luck.

[Sun star]

I hate electric stoves, but Pine Ridge doesn't have gas. I would like to have a propane tank buried and switch to a gas stove. Has anyone done this?

Yes I had a line run to a new gas stove last year. I already had a buried gas tank because I have a pool. It was expensive to run a line Over a thousand dollars. I am happy to have a gas stove however.

[TedfromGA]

Not at all surprised, Not at all a common event but a propane tank is a bomb. Picture a home on fire. Heat plus flammable gas under pressure. A buried tank has no choice but to blow upwards not out.

The person driving the delivery truck, gets extra pay for hazardous cargo. We do not get paid when we drive on the same road.
Gasoline truck, Fuel Oil truck, Propane truck - all carry hazardous material. All will burn (not blow up) if hit by an object causing the tank to split open and a heat source causes ignition. A buried tank won't get hit by an object. If the buried tank or line leaks it won't blow up the tank even if the leak is ignited. Things blowing up on TV is not what really happens - how many cars do you see blowing up? Car/trucks do burn in accidents.... not blow up.

[Zanicky]

If you don’t mind me asking, how many times has your power gone out and needed the generator?


We had a 250 gallon propane tank buried in our yard to service a generator. We also had a line run to service a gas stove and an outside grill. All this required approval from ARC and cost around $13 grand for generator and installation. We use about 50 gallons of propane / year with the generator running for 10 minutes each week plus the gas stove and grill. If we loose power the generator will power the house for about 5 days.

If you just want a gas stove (and maybe an outlet for gas grill) you don't want a 250 gallon tank buried. An outside 50 gallon would be sufficient to cover your use for a year. The questions are: a) can you place such a tank above ground next to your house?; b) if not then can a 50 gallon tank be buried - check with the propane supplier?; c) in any case check with ARC to determine if approval is required. Cost for this type of solution should be well under $1 grand.

[stadry]

3 mos agosuburban quoted $1,300 for the same work(buried250 gal) in osceola hills.

[skippy05]

For years I had always purchased homes with gas so that I could cook on gas. My FL home is only electric so I purchased a high-end induction range. To my surprise, high-end induction is FAR FAR superior cooking experience than gas and tons easier to clean up after you finish. Do not purchase a low end induction unit. Spend the money and be amazed. Example from AJMadison website Miele HR16222I Yes this costs 9k, but if you enjoy cooking...why not? AJ will ship to your home.

[Moonrunner]

I hate electric stoves, but Pine Ridge doesn't have gas. I would like to have a propane tank buried and switch to a gas stove. Has anyone done this?

I switched and Suburban propane installed the tank and connections. They did a great job and with my gas stove I am once again a very happy cook✔️

[Engine12]

Belleview Propane will also bury and supply your tanks. Great company to work with !

[rothbear]

Just wondering, are you aware of induction cooking options and how much less expensive it would be than to do the gas conversion??? With a swap out like this, you would be getting the control you want on heat settings. A fraction of the cost for what you are wanting to achieve. Access Denied (https://www.homedepot.com/p/FRIGIDAIRE-GALLERY-30-in-5-4-cu-ft-Front-Control-Induction-Range-with-Air-Fry-in-Stainless-Steel-FGIH3047VF/311224897#product-section-overview)

I have the freestanding version of this stove and love, love, love it! Controls just like gas but safer and much easier to clean. I like the fact that if you turn on the wrong burner it doesn't heat up without a pan on it and will flash at you to let you know. I have always had smooth top electric stoves and hated cleaning them, but this one is so easy to clean. I had to get used to the fact that when you turn off the burner it actually turns off and doesn't continue to heat the food. I would recommend it without question. I did a lot of research and the Fridgidaire came out on top. Plus even though it's stainless it doesn't show fingerprints.

[popbaby2]

Just wondering, are you aware of induction cooking options and how much less expensive it would be than to do the gas conversion??? With a swap out like this, you would be getting the control you want on heat settings. A fraction of the cost for what you are wanting to achieve. Access Denied (https://www.homedepot.com/p/FRIGIDAIRE-GALLERY-30-in-5-4-cu-ft-Front-Control-Induction-Range-with-Air-Fry-in-Stainless-Steel-FGIH3047VF/311224897#product-section-overview)
Totally agree. Used both gas and electricity but i now love ❤️ my induction stove! Up north for summer using gas at my daughters - yuck- so slow……..

[popbaby2]

Regarding the induction stoves, do they reduce head quickly as well as heat up quickly? I'm always missjudging the temperatures before I walk away. For example, I get a nice simmer, watch for a minute, an then walk away. And it burns or boils over. Or I reduce temperature, watch for a minute for a nice simmer, walk away and when I get back it isn't simmering.

Yes. Instant change.

[Txcottage]

I hate electric stoves, but Pine Ridge doesn't have gas. I would like to have a propane tank buried and switch to a gas stove. Has anyone done this?

We had a 50 gal propane tank installed below ground 12 years ago- you just see a small black mound above. It’s only been filled once when we got to 50% during that time although the company does monthly checks. I love having a dual fuel stove( gas cooktop/electric oven below) and when others had no electricity, I could still cook.

[popbaby2]

As said in my previous post, you need to teach that horse who is the boss. Unlike gas, the temperature does not change as fast particularly when you turn down the heat. I regularly make quantities of stuff like lentil soup, pea soup etc in large old pressure cookers.
I've even mastered that without burning. That was tough. Three or four gallons of burnt tasting soup is truly a disaster.
With induction, change of temp is IMMEDIATE!! Its fantastic!

[DDToto41]

I hate electric stoves, but Pine Ridge doesn't have gas. I would like to have a propane tank buried and switch to a gas stove. Has anyone done this?

Be careful, get a competent bonded plumber to help with this. A gas orifice is much larger than a propane orifice, it produces a much higher flame and can catch your house on fire.

[jdulej]

Belleview Propane will also bury and supply your tanks. Great company to work with !

I'm not sure if this happens in FL (it does in CA), if you have a tank installed make sure you actually own the tank vs. just renting it. The up front cost if you rent the tank will be a lot lower, but it's a hassle if you sell the house with a rented tank.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

The gas vs electric doesn’t concern me I’m on my 6th home in villages and all buyers of my homes got a new stove and dishwasher because I never turned them on, I will say this ,I’m glad the current home which is my first pre owned home is electric which eliminates that small gas bill . Cooking is overrated and I’m healthy , low cholesterol, and no meds at 82 and love take out or eating in restaurants

[elevatorman]

Call the gas company and make sure there is no gas in your neighborhood. We are in a section of Duval that is all electric. However when the infrastructure was put in they ran gas pipes down the road and did not run gas to the homes. So the gas may be on your street just not run to your house.

[graciegirl]

Regarding the induction stoves, do they reduce head quickly as well as heat up quickly? I'm always missjudging the temperatures before I walk away. For example, I get a nice simmer, watch for a minute, an then walk away. And it burns or boils over. Or I reduce temperature, watch for a minute for a nice simmer, walk away and when I get back it isn't simmering.

It is just like anything else it takes some patience and practice. We have to learn to move things OFF THE BURNER.

[golfnut]

We live in Belvedere and have gas, when we wanted new appliances we switched to an electric smooth top stove, we love it and clean up is a breeze, we couldn't keep the grates on the gas stove clean and it took forever to clean them.

[kkingston57]

Just wondering, are you aware of induction cooking options and how much less expensive it would be than to do the gas conversion??? With a swap out like this, you would be getting the control you want on heat settings. A fraction of the cost for what you are wanting to achieve. https://www.homedepot.com/p/FRIGIDAIRE-GALLERY-30-in-5-4-cu-ft-Front-Control-Induction-Range-with-Air-Fry-in-Stainless-Steel-FGIH3047VF/311224897#product-section-overview

Had the same thought. We went with induction stove. Faster than gas. Takes about 90 seconds to get water to boiling point and a lot less heat. Also it is much more controllable on the heat, especially when we have to simmer something.

Looked into getting a gas tankless hot water heater. Cost to install outweighed possible long term water heating cost.

[joelfmi]

Speak to the Villages construction department and Licensed Plumber tell them what you are doing they will direct you on what you have to do. Please don't look for bargains their none.

[TedfromGA]

If you don’t mind me asking, how many times has your power gone out and needed the generator?

We've had the home generator for 3 years. We live in the Buttonwood area just north of 466a. We lost the power for 30 minutes once in that time. So the "elephant in the room" - is the cost worth it? $13k seems a lot until you spend 24 hours in the Florida heat and humidity and potentially start a mold problem in your home. For me it is peace of mind and worth the $$. Same type of question when it comes to purchasing a car - do you buy one for $20k or one for $60k? It is all up to the beholder.

[C. C. Rider]

I've been in Florida for 19 years. The longest time we were ever without electric power was in 2004 when it was off for about 2 1/2 days on one occasion. Another time that same year, the power was off for about 1 day.

Since then, the electric companies have done a much better job of "hardening" their transmission facilities. Since 2004, I can only recall a couple of times where the electric was off for a few hours.

I would say that if you have a generator with enough fuel to last for 12 to 15 hours, it's very unlikely that you would ever need more.