Black tee players

[cubpga@aol.com]

I am new to the Villages (2020) and played mostly with add on players. Looking to see if there is a group of golfers who play the black tees and how to find out about them. Will be down in winter but would like to get going as soon as I get there.

Thanks for any help you can give.

[bagboy]

I am new to the Villages (2020) and played mostly with add on players. Looking to see if there is a group of golfers who play the black tees and how to find out about them. Will be down in winter but would like to get going as soon as I get there.

Thanks for any help you can give.

I suggest you call one, or several of our country club professionals. In most sports including golf, the better players know who and where the better players are. Good Luck!

[Velvet]

Are they the color of tees or the people? I am just learning to play golf.

[dewilson58]

If you are talking Championship Courses..........
There is a group called, The Blue Tees.
As the name indicates, they play from the blues.

Rarely will you find a gold tee player.
Black tees are pretty dusty.


If you are talking Exec Courses.......doesn't really matter.

[Davonu]

…Rarely will you find a gold tee player.
Black tees are pretty dusty.

If you are talking Exec Courses.......doesn't really matter.
Hmmm….

From my experience, many players play the gold tees on champ courses.

And the tee color on Exec Courses DEFINITELY matters!!!!!

[dewilson58]

Hmmm….

From my experience, many players play the gold tees on champ courses.

And the tee color on Exec Courses DEFINITELY matters!!!!!

Would love to see gold players

Executives???................oh no, an eight iron vs. a wedge.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[graciegirl]

It was a sunny Saturday morning, and Mike was beginning his pre-shot routine, visualizing his upcoming shot when a voice came over the clubhouse loudspeaker, “Would the gentleman on the Ladies tee please back up to the men’s tee, please!” Mike was still deep in his routine, seemingly impervious to the interruption. Again the announcement, “Would the man on the women’s tee kindly back up the men’s tee!” Mike had had enough. He shouted, “Would the horse’s ass in the clubhouse with the loud speaker kindly shut up and let me play my second shot!”

[Davonu]

Would love to see gold players

Executives???................oh no, an eight iron vs. a wedge.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
A long iron vs. a lob wedge is not unusual at all. Oh yes.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[walterray1]

I am new to the Villages (2020) and played mostly with add on players. Looking to see if there is a group of golfers who play the black tees and how to find out about them. Will be down in winter but would like to get going as soon as I get there.

Thanks for any help you can give.

Congratulations on your golf proficiency. I am sure you will work this out to your benefit.

[golfing eagles]

Would love to see gold players

Executives???................oh no, an eight iron vs. a wedge.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Actually, I used a 7 iron once. (into a 2 club wind)

[DaleDivine]

Would love to see gold players

Executives???................oh no, an eight iron vs. a wedge.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Pretty good for the par fours on the execs...
:bigbow::bigbow:

[thevillages2013]

I am new to the Villages (2020) and played mostly with add on players. Looking to see if there is a group of golfers who play the black tees and how to find out about them. Will be down in winter but would like to get going as soon as I get there.

Thanks for any help you can give.

There is a gold tee group that plays regularly here. Golds are just short of black. My buddy has played with them. They have a money game weekly. They are well known so the ambassadors and staff will have info on them

[irish2468]

If you are talking Championship Courses..........
There is a group called, The Blue Tees.
As the name indicates, they play from the blues.

Rarely will you find a gold tee player.
Black tees are pretty dusty.


If you are talking Exec Courses.......doesn't really matter.

LOL...anytime you want to play Pelican or Roosevelt from the Black , I'm in.
And we'll see if Black executive tees don't really matter..!!!!!!..You have to be a hack carrying a 20 thinking he's a scratch.

[Bay Kid]

All the different tee box choices help the executive courses to be interesting. I'm always a single golfer so I just now play whatever the group plays. Pelican from the black is really fun!

[dewilson58]

LOL...anytime you want to play Pelican or Roosevelt from the Black , I'm in.
And we'll see if Black executive tees don't really matter..!!!!!!..You have to be a hack carrying a 20 thinking he's a scratch.

Don't be so sensitive Sheldon.
Roosy & Pel are nice.

Significant difference between Exec black & Champ black. :ohdear:

[beeneyra]

Might want to add your location and if your talking about exec course or the so called championship courses.

[Marine1974]

Then there is the group who play the tips of the very back of the back tee box . Get all of it .

[Two Bills]

I have played with a lot of black/back tee players using drivers on Execs. who would still struggle to hit a green in one, if they played off the green/front tee.
After about five holes they usually start saying how they use Execs to practice chipping round the green!

[golfing eagles]

I have played with a lot of black/back tee players using drivers on Execs. who would still struggle to hit a green in one, if they played off the green/front tee.
After about five holes they usually start saying how they use Execs to practice chipping round the green!

I would argue that playing the so called black tees on an exec course doesn't qualify anyone as a "black tee player". To those that think they are great golfers because they play an exec course from 1600 yds instead of 1300 yds, think again. Let's go play a 7400 yd course and see how great you are, especially anyone who needs to bring a driver to an exec course

[jmkeyzers]

You are most likely too ignorant to read the post or golf. It says black tees. Why would you interject race.

[dewilson58]

You are most likely too ignorant to read the post or golf. It says black tees. Why would you interject race.

Attached what/who you are replying to if you want to help others to understand. :coolsmiley:

[Flyers999]

As some suggested, ask an ambassador or one of the pros at the golf shop.
I play the black tees at El Santiago every week. But that's probably not what you are looking for.

[tvbound]

Having played a few courses from the gold tees on our visits, it quickly became evident that it's a different course from back there. My hat is off to those who play the black/back tees, as I'll just go ahead and avoid the embarrassment - and stick with the blues.

[golfing eagles]

As some suggested, ask an ambassador or one of the pros at the golf shop.
I play the black tees at El Santiago every week. But that's probably not what you are looking for.

Almost definitely not. Just basing that on "pga" as part of the OPs user name.

[Gac57]

I haven't played here yet.In KY. (Mineral Mounds State Park) I played the white or blue tees. I played about once-twice/yr. so I'm lucky if I break 50. We are living in the Amelia area, what course should I start with? I know the driving range but don't know for sure which one.

[Larry1943]

If you are referring to Executive courses, we play the black tees every Monday, Tuesday, and Friday at Amberwood, Oakley, Briarwood, and Walnut Grove. If you are interested in playing with is, when will you be arriving and what part of the Villages are you in?

[Gac57]

We live in Mallory (Amelia). Don't know those courses. I'll look them up.

[Madelaine Amee]

I have a black tee box right behind my home on Glen View. Seen maybe a handful of players use it, mainly the young professionals who work here.

[Chi-Town]

I have played with a lot of black/back tee players using drivers on Execs. who would still struggle to hit a green in one, if they played off the green/front tee.
After about five holes they usually start saying how they use Execs to practice chipping round the green!

Funny how it becomes just a chip and a putt for par.

[graciegirl]

Attached what/who you are replying to if you want to help others to understand. :coolsmiley:

I thought he might be talking about black teas. A lot of people drink that yucky green stuff.

And some people look for a way to be self righteous and they are no fun at all. You are not one of them Mr. D. Wilson.

[Paul1934]

Ok, we have been through high tea responses and nonsensical mixes of executive and “championship” course approaches.

As an aging middle single digit player, I have found that a mix of blue and gold tees somewhat replicates a Northern Blue course. Most mixes in the village run about 600 yards less than what we played up North.
That being said, I see too many golfers on the wrong tees. Basic guide should be:
Par 3, on green off tee,
Par 4, inside 150 off tee,
Par 5, inside 100 after 2nd shot.
As a once practitioner of the occasional 300 tee shot, loved to drag the young bucks to the forward tees and watch them struggle to make par.
Every tee is a different course. Same tees every time becomes “habit golf”, where you could go out with 5-6 clubs each time.
For what it’s worth.

[Boop20000]

Start your own club

[doctorknow]

Black Tees Matter!

[dewilson58]

Black Tees Matter!

Nicely played.

[Flyers999]

I haven't played here yet.In KY. (Mineral Mounds State Park) I played the white or blue tees. I played about once-twice/yr. so I'm lucky if I break 50. We are living in the Amelia area, what course should I start with? I know the driving range but don't know for sure which one.
I would start with Ashley Meadows course of the NANCY LOPEZ LEGACY golf club. The club has three nine hole courses and I think the Ashley Meadows course is the most forgiving(Torres Pines and Erin Glen are the other two nines there). It starts off with two easy par fours, then a reachable par 5 with a wide fairway that even I can hit.

Good Luck

[kcrazorbackfan]

It was a sunny Saturday morning, and Mike was beginning his pre-shot routine, visualizing his upcoming shot when a voice came over the clubhouse loudspeaker, “Would the gentleman on the Ladies tee please back up to the men’s tee, please!” Mike was still deep in his routine, seemingly impervious to the interruption. Again the announcement, “Would the man on the women’s tee kindly back up the men’s tee!” Mike had had enough. He shouted, “Would the horse’s ass in the clubhouse with the loud speaker kindly shut up and let me play my second shot!”

Hahahahahahaha

[I'm Popeye!]

I would argue that playing the so called black tees on an exec course doesn't qualify anyone as a "black tee player". To those that think they are great golfers because they play an exec course from 1600 yds instead of 1300 yds, think again. Let's go play a 7400 yd course and see how great you are, especially anyone who needs to bring a driver to an exec course
Maybe you don't play Exec courses, but Palmetto alone from the Black tees on the 7th and 8th holes are over 370 yards.
So with that said, bring your driver, Sir. :ho:

[dewilson58]

Maybe you don't play Exec courses, but Palmetto alone from the Black tees on the 7th and 8th holes are over 370 yards.
So with that said, bring your driver, Sir. :ho:

Under 400 yards, I don't use a driver..........thinking about my approach iron.

[Rapscallion St Croix]

The woods are full of big hitters.

[dewilson58]

The woods are full of big hitters.

:1rotfl:
Good to know, never been in them.
:clap2:

[golfing eagles]

Maybe you don't play Exec courses, but Palmetto alone from the Black tees on the 7th and 8th holes are over 370 yards.
So with that said, bring your driver, Sir. :ho:

Generally I don't, but to help a friend who was just learning, but on Thursday I played guess where?---Palmetto. I hit 4 iron/9 iron to 7, but I admit since 8 was 396 yds and my driver was in my bag, I hit drive/8 iron. missed both birdie putts. But that doesn't make me a "black tee player"

[thevillages2013]

I haven't played here yet.In KY. (Mineral Mounds State Park) I played the white or blue tees. I played about once-twice/yr. so I'm lucky if I break 50. We are living in the Amelia area, what course should I start with? I know the driving range but don't know for sure which one.
In Amelia you are really close to Mallory hill and Havana. Both have 27 holes. There is an aerification schedule for all Villages courses available on line. Check that before you decide where to play because you don’t want to be on a course that just reopened after aeration. Enjoy

[Gac57]

In Amelia you are really close to Mallory hill and Havana. Both have 27 holes. There is an aerification schedule for all Villages courses available on line. Check that before you decide where to play because you don’t want to be on a course that just reopened after aeration. EnjoyThank you!

[I'm Popeye!]

Generally I don't, but to help a friend who was just learning, but on Thursday I played guess where?---Palmetto. I hit 4 iron/9 iron to 7, but I admit since 8 was 396 yds and my driver was in my bag, I hit drive/8 iron. missed both birdie putts. But that doesn't make me a "black tee player"

You must be a Very Good player, not everyone can Max Out on the clubs you have selected for the 396 yard hole.
But the AVERAGE player can NOT reach that hole with the clubs you have selected.

[golfing eagles]

You must be a Very Good player, not everyone can Max Out on the clubs you have selected for the 396 yard hole.
But the AVERAGE player can NOT reach that hole with the clubs you have selected.

250 drive and 145 8 iron---seems pretty average to me. 40 years ago it would have been drive- wedge

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Who gets more value/money's worth playing a championship course?

Player A who finishes with a 5 over par in 4 hours,
Player B who finishes with 20 over par in 5 hours. . .

Seems like player B gets the most practice time on the course. .
and dollars per shot is much lower
and therefore that's why i play the blacks

golfing finance guy
:boxing2::duck::duck:

[biker1]

Yep. Here is one survey of average driving distances by age. Average age in The Villages is about 67.

AGE: DISTANCE
10-19: 234.2 yards
20-29: 239.7 yards
30-39: 233.7 yards
40-49: 225.9 yards
50-59: 215.4 yards
60-69: 204.5 yards
70: 190.4 yards



You must be a Very Good player, not everyone can Max Out on the clubs you have selected for the 396 yard hole.
But the AVERAGE player can NOT reach that hole with the clubs you have selected.

[dewilson58]

Yep. Here is one survey of average driving distances by age. Average age in The Villages is about 67.

AGE: DISTANCE
10-19: 234.2 yards
20-29: 239.7 yards
30-39: 233.7 yards
40-49: 225.9 yards
50-59: 215.4 yards
60-69: 204.5 yards
70: 190.4 yards

A LOT of things go down hill after 30. :1rotfl::1rotfl:

[golfing eagles]

Yep. Here is one survey of average driving distances by age. Average age in The Villages is about 67.

AGE: DISTANCE
10-19: 234.2 yards
20-29: 239.7 yards
30-39: 233.7 yards
40-49: 225.9 yards
50-59: 215.4 yards
60-69: 204.5 yards
70: 190.4 yards

Looks like a chart from 1955:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[I'm Popeye!]

Looks like a chart from 1955:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Actually those numbers posted are current, 2019
. . . . Maybe just maybe your: Superman! . :eek:

[golfing eagles]

Actually those numbers posted are current, 2019
. . . . Maybe just maybe your: Superman! . :eek:

doubt it. No "S" on my chest!. (And don't anyone post it's not an "s", it's the Kryptonian symbol for hope, we all know)

[NY Golfer Steve]

I am new to the Villages (2020) and played mostly with add on players. Looking to see if there is a group of golfers who play the black tees and how to find out about them. Will be down in winter but would like to get going as soon as I get there.

Thanks for any help you can give.

I run one of the only Gold tee games in the Villages on Wednesdays. PM me if you are interested in getting more information.

Steve Stuetzle
845 797-6702

[NY Golfer Steve]

I am new to the Villages (2020) and played mostly with add on players. Looking to see if there is a group of golfers who play the black tees and how to find out about them. Will be down in winter but would like to get going as soon as I get there.

Thanks for any help you can give.

Black tees, no. But I run a gold tee group Wednesday's if you are interested. PM me.
Steve Stuetzle

[lake5798]

Golf digest had a great article about selecting the proper tee box to help obtain the most enjoyment for your ability. The tee selection rule at the time was based on how far you hit your driver, the problem with that (according to the article) was a lot of people are not sure how far they hit their driver and most think they hit it farther than they actually do. The articles formula was to use your 5 iron(hybrid) distance and multiply by 36, the rational on the distance of that club is most people have a much better idea how far they hit it, since they are usually firing at determined target. Example I hit my 5 iron 170 Yards x 36=6120 yards. I try to stay between 6000 and 6300, and am able to maintain a 6 Hcp, consistently. I checked with a few retired club pros I played with in the Villages, and they all agreed it was a very good formula to use for tee selection. Not saying it works for everyone but I have found more than not, with people I have played with over the years, it works out well. Just food for thought :)

[chet2020]

Maybe you don't play Exec courses, but Palmetto alone from the Black tees on the 7th and 8th holes are over 370 yards.
So with that said, bring your driver, Sir. :ho:

Sir, if I had your forearms, I wouldn't even carry a driver.

[Calisport]

I’m I white tee wanting to be a pitch and putt sometimes

[tvbound]

Sir, if I had your forearms, I wouldn't even carry a driver.

However, seeing spinach on the greens and maybe thinking it is discarded chewing tobacco, wouldn't exactly thrill me. LOL

[tvbound]

Yep. Here is one survey of average driving distances by age. Average age in The Villages is about 67.

AGE: DISTANCE
10-19: 234.2 yards
20-29: 239.7 yards
30-39: 233.7 yards
40-49: 225.9 yards
50-59: 215.4 yards
60-69: 204.5 yards
70: 190.4 yards

Overestimating the length of drives, is nothing new. In fact, some women have a hard time estimating distance, because they’ve been told all of their lives that this much - is 8”. LOL

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[I'm Popeye!]

Sir, if I had your forearms, I wouldn't even carry a driver.

How would you like if I told you that I play Palmer Legends from the Black Tees on the Orange Blossom golf course.
Just to let you know, My GPS distance readings are in Miles, not Yards. :ho:

[tophcfa]

Yep. Here is one survey of average driving distances by age. Average age in The Villages is about 67.

AGE: DISTANCE
10-19: 234.2 yards
20-29: 239.7 yards
30-39: 233.7 yards
40-49: 225.9 yards
50-59: 215.4 yards
60-69: 204.5 yards
70: 190.4 yards

I would like to see the difference in average drive distance in the Villages between January and July. During the winter when the fairways are bone dry, have very little grass and the rough is dormant and very short, a low draw off the T will run out forever. In the middle of the summer rain season, between the wet ground and the nasty Bermuda rough, most drives stay just about where they land. I would guess that my average driving distance is about 35 yards longer during the winter. And in the winter the golfer never has to hack their ball out of a buried lie in the rough just to get back onto the fairway. My average score is probably 5 - 8 strokes lower per round in the winter.

[stanley]

I would like to see the difference in average drive distance in the Villages between January and July. During the winter when the fairways are bone dry, have very little grass and the rough is dormant and very short, a low draw off the T will run out forever. In the middle of the summer rain season, between the wet ground and the nasty Bermuda rough, most drives stay just about where they land. I would guess that my average driving distance is about 35 yards longer during the winter. And in the winter the golfer never has to hack their ball out of a buried lie in the rough just to get back onto the fairway. My average score is probably 5 - 8 strokes lower per round in the winter.

That's one of the reasons for active and inactive seasons for posting scores for handicap.