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twotogo
09-05-2021, 07:45 AM
Does anyone know what the guidelines are for being treated @ Barnstorm Theater with the monoclonal therapy? Do you have to be tested first somewhere else It looks like you have to make an appointment online. Anyone know the facts? Thanks

Papa_lecki
09-05-2021, 07:54 AM
Monoclonal Antibody Therapy | Florida Department of Health COVID-19 Outbreak (https://floridahealthcovid19.gov/monoclonal-antibody-therapy/)

Monoclonal antibody treatments can prevent severe illness, hospitalization and death in high-risk patients who have contracted or been exposed to COVID-19. These treatments are widely available in Florida.

* Treatment is free and vaccination status does not matter. If you are 12 years and older and are at high risk for severe illness due to COVID-19, you are eligible for this treatment.
* In clinical trials, monoclonal antibody treatment showed a 70% reduction in hospitalization and death.
* For high-risk patients who have been exposed to someone with COVID19, Regeneron can give you temporary immunity to decrease your odds of catching the infection by over 80%.

asianthree
09-05-2021, 07:58 AM
Per governor DeSantis direction there is a current standing order in Florida signed by the states surgeon general that allows patients to receive this treatment without a prescription or referral if administered by eligible healthcare provider.
referrals are not required at any state of Florida for monoclonal antibody treatment sites and treatments are available at no cost to patients

CoachKandSportsguy
09-05-2021, 08:25 AM
somewhat the same economics to you of a pro-active, ex-ante, though not perfect risk reduction method, an rMNA vaccine, versus the monoclonal antibodies after the fact, post-ante, treatment method, in hopes that one gets the treatment in time.

its all about an individual's risk preferences and choices. .

biker1
09-05-2021, 08:42 AM
Walk-ups or online appointments are accepted. According to the people at Barnstorm, the candidates are those with a positive test and those who have been exposed, such as if your spouse has tested positive. No referrals or test results are required. I suspect a lot are breakthrough cases.

Does anyone know what the guidelines are for being treated @ Barnstorm Theater with the monoclonal therapy? Do you have to be tested first somewhere else It looks like you have to make an appointment online. Anyone know the facts? Thanks

MDLNB
09-05-2021, 11:25 AM
Per governor DeSantis direction there is a current standing order in Florida signed by the states surgeon general that allows patients to receive this treatment without a prescription or referral if administered by eligible healthcare provider.
referrals are not required at any state of Florida for monoclonal antibody treatment sites and treatments are available at no cost to patients


Sounds like a fantastic idea, and it may help reduce the hospital patient population. With this kind of thinking, perhaps there will be no use for the portable morgues.

asianthree
09-05-2021, 01:50 PM
Sounds like a fantastic idea, and it may help reduce the hospital patient population. With this kind of thinking, perhaps there will be no use for the portable morgues.

Governor has tried to make things convenient in TV. However since you don’t need any documentation, one can just walk-in or make an appointment for treatment.

Same with 3rd shot you can just go to any facility that has vaccine and say you are immune compromised, no proof needed.

Wonder how many will take advantage, just because no documents are required need it or not.

Luggage
09-06-2021, 04:59 AM
We decided against going for the third shot right now even though no documentation is needed as we feel possibly we would take it away from someone who actually needs it right now.

NoMoSno
09-06-2021, 05:39 AM
We decided against going for the third shot right now even though no documentation is needed as we feel possibly we would take it away from someone who actually needs it right now.
There is no shortage of the third shot.

Eg_cruz
09-06-2021, 06:10 AM
Per governor DeSantis direction there is a current standing order in Florida signed by the states surgeon general that allows patients to receive this treatment without a prescription or referral if administered by eligible healthcare provider.
referrals are not required at any state of Florida for monoclonal antibody treatment sites and treatments are available at no cost to patients
This station are all over the US not just here, with the same protocols

Eg_cruz
09-06-2021, 06:15 AM
Governor has tried to make things convenient in TV. However since you don’t need any documentation, one can just walk-in or make an appointment for treatment.

Same with 3rd shot you can just go to any facility that has vaccine and say you are immune compromised, no proof needed.

Wonder how many will take advantage, just because no documents are required need it or not.
Why would anybody go and have a treatment just for the heck of it…….makes zero since

Eg_cruz
09-06-2021, 06:21 AM
[QUOTE=twotogo;1999205]Does anyone know what the guidelines are for being treated @ Barnstorm Theater with the monoclonal therapy? Do you have to be tested first somewhere else It looks like you have to make an appointment online. Anyone know the facts? Thanks[/

Hiltongrizz11
09-06-2021, 06:26 AM
Monoclonal Antibody Therapy | Florida Department of Health COVID-19 Outbreak (https://floridahealthcovid19.gov/monoclonal-antibody-therapy/)

Monoclonal antibody treatments can prevent severe illness, hospitalization and death in high-risk patients who have contracted or been exposed to COVID-19. These treatments are widely available in Florida.

* Treatment is free and vaccination status does not matter. If you are 12 years and older and are at high risk for severe illness due to COVID-19, you are eligible for this treatment.
* In clinical trials, monoclonal antibody treatment showed a 70% reduction in hospitalization and death.
* For high-risk patients who have been exposed to someone with COVID19, Regeneron can give you temporary immunity to decrease your odds of catching the infection by over 80%.


You have to have symptoms first!

Hiltongrizz11
09-06-2021, 06:28 AM
Why would anybody go and have a treatment just for the heck of it…….makes zero since

You need to have symptoms or test positive

biker1
09-06-2021, 06:45 AM
No. Read post #5.

You have to have symptoms first!

tjameson
09-06-2021, 06:49 AM
You would need to either test positive or show proof of having been exposed to someone who has COVID. This is NOT for prophylactic use.

biker1
09-06-2021, 07:13 AM
No. You are a candidate for the injections if you have tested positive or you have been exposed. You do not need to show proof of either.

You would need to either test positive or show proof of having been exposed to someone who has COVID. This is NOT for prophylactic use.

merrymini
09-06-2021, 08:35 AM
I know f someone who just went in and got the treatment with no verification.

talonip
09-06-2021, 08:39 AM
Monoclonal Antibody Therapy | Florida Department of Health COVID-19 Outbreak (https://floridahealthcovid19.gov/monoclonal-antibody-therapy/)

Monoclonal antibody treatments can prevent severe illness, hospitalization and death in high-risk patients who have contracted or been exposed to COVID-19. These treatments are widely available in Florida.

* Treatment is free and vaccination status does not matter. If you are 12 years and older and are at high risk for severe illness due to COVID-19, you are eligible for this treatment.
* In clinical trials, monoclonal antibody treatment showed a 70% reduction in hospitalization and death.
* For high-risk patients who have been exposed to someone with COVID19, Regeneron can give you temporary immunity to decrease your odds of catching the infection by over 80%.

Went to the ER on meggison And 44. You must have a positive test for covid before getting the infusion.

Bhighley
09-06-2021, 09:27 AM
Does anyone know what the guidelines are for being treated @ Barnstorm Theater with the monoclonal therapy? Do you have to be tested first somewhere else It looks like you have to make an appointment online. Anyone know the facts? Thanks

Coming to this site for facts…. Classic. You’ll have no less than 20 opinions, mostly by the same folks who give their opinion on just about every topic on here.

Try visiting the site setup for providing the therapy, attached

Monoclonal Antibody Therapy | Florida Department of Health COVID-19 Outbreak (https://floridahealthcovid19.gov/monoclonal-antibody-therapy/)

MDLNB
09-06-2021, 09:30 AM
We decided against going for the third shot right now even though no documentation is needed as we feel possibly we would take it away from someone who actually needs it right now.


You can have mine :icon_wink:

Roron123
09-06-2021, 09:48 AM
First of all you have to have a Positive COVID test in order to get the Regeneron treatment injections/ IV. If you test positive you can just walk in and ask for treatment BUT it has to be within 10 days of onset or contamination. You cannot get vaccinated afterwards until 90 days have past

Mrprez
09-06-2021, 10:07 AM
Get the facts here:

https://floridahealthcovid19.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Regeneron-Standing-Order-8.12.21.pdf

Jacob85
09-06-2021, 10:19 AM
The no proof thing is not being honored by Walgreens and CVS pharmacies as they cross examine you and one one occasion someone said they had taken a steroid. They wanted to see the prescription bottle!

Lindsyburnsy
09-06-2021, 10:48 AM
Why doesn’t DeSantis push vaccination and masks to prevent COVID?. Oh wait, does he hv an interest in the monoclonal treatment? Donors, stocks, etc? Asking for a friend.

Per governor DeSantis direction there is a current standing order in Florida signed by the states surgeon general that allows patients to receive this treatment without a prescription or referral if administered by eligible healthcare provider.
referrals are not required at any state of Florida for monoclonal antibody treatment sites and treatments are available at no cost to patients

Bill14564
09-06-2021, 10:56 AM
Why doesn’t DeSantis push vaccination and masks to prevent COVID?. Oh wait, does he hv an interest in the monoclonal treatment? Donors, stocks, etc? Asking for a friend.

Tell your friend that Florida (under DeSantis) had one of the best rollouts of the vaccinations. Many were vaccinated before summer and the vaccines appear to be readily available now for anyone who wants one.

Many in Florida have chosen not to get the vaccine and a large number of those are getting sick, filling hospital beds, and dying. While the vaccine is the best way to avoid the need for a hospital bed, if your friend finds (his/her)self unvaccinated and sick with Covid then the monoclonal treatment may help.

Florida is still "pushing" vaccines but they are also making monoclonal treatments available for "friends" who knew better than the scientists.

Mrprez
09-06-2021, 11:07 AM
The no proof thing is not being honored by Walgreens and CVS pharmacies as they cross examine you and one one occasion someone said they had taken a steroid. They wanted to see the prescription bottle!

This thread is not about other locations. Brownwood only. Apples and oranges.

Chiefhyde
09-06-2021, 11:10 AM
[QUOTE=twotogo;1999205]Does anyone know what the guidelines are for being treated @ Barnstorm Theater with the monoclonal therapy? Do you have to be tested first somewhere else It looks like you have to make an appointment online. Anyone know the facts? Thanks[/QUOT


With all these positive COVID-19 people coming to Brownwood - maybe a good idea to steer clear of the area ?? I mean they are only there cuz they are sick !!

Loriana
09-06-2021, 11:17 AM
Does anyone know what the guidelines are for being treated @ Barnstorm Theater with the monoclonal therapy? Do you have to be tested first somewhere else It looks like you have to make an appointment online. Anyone know the facts? Thanks

We couldn’t find anywhere that we could get a Covid test to confirm our suspicions that we were positive which is what we needed to get the monoclonal treatments at Brownwood. We ended up going to UFH across from Brownwood to get the Covid test confirmation and the monoclonal treatment. Going early makes a big difference in a speedier recovery. We had been vaccinated which reduced our symptoms. The weakness in the health system, in my opinion, is the initial Covid testing which is difficult to find.

finchhere
09-06-2021, 11:42 AM
Brother-in-law had "something" (not sure if Covid, -- tested but results not sent yet -- but exposed to others who did, thus, very likely)....so....he just "showed up" at the Brownwood site, answered their questions, and was treated: 4 injections, 1 hour "wait and see" (any adverse reactions ?) to follow, and then released.That easy.
He's feeling better...

Mrprez
09-06-2021, 12:34 PM
There must be some kind of discrimination going on over there at Brownwood. Some are being turned away due to no test, others walk right in and get the treatment. Weird!

</sarcasm>

Lindsyburnsy
09-06-2021, 01:15 PM
Fortunately all my friends are vaccinated. Desantis’s rollout was so good that Florida’s cases are the highest with so many deaths that there is nowhere to put the bodies. I call that a success.

biker1
09-06-2021, 01:25 PM
Give it a rest.

Why doesn’t DeSantis push vaccination and masks to prevent COVID?. Oh wait, does he hv an interest in the monoclonal treatment? Donors, stocks, etc? Asking for a friend.

biker1
09-06-2021, 01:27 PM
OK, whatever. They are also making the monoclonal treatment available for breakthrough cases.

Tell your friend that Florida (under DeSantis) had one of the best rollouts of the vaccinations. Many were vaccinated before summer and the vaccines appear to be readily available now for anyone who wants one.

Many in Florida have chosen not to get the vaccine and a large number of those are getting sick, filling hospital beds, and dying. While the vaccine is the best way to avoid the need for a hospital bed, if your friend finds (his/her)self unvaccinated and sick with Covid then the monoclonal treatment may help.

Florida is still "pushing" vaccines but they are also making monoclonal treatments available for "friends" who knew better than the scientists.

biker1
09-06-2021, 01:29 PM
That is not my experience. Have you personally seen this?

There must be some kind of discrimination going on over there at Brownwood. Some are being turned away due to no test, others walk right in and get the treatment. Weird!

</sarcasm>

Mrprez
09-06-2021, 01:38 PM
That is not my experience. Have you personally seen this?

Go up a couple of responses. One said they needed a test and the one right after said no test required. Which is it?

29 and 30.

Bill14564
09-06-2021, 01:56 PM
Go up a couple of responses. One said they needed a test and the one right after said no test required. Which is it?

29 and 30.

My guess: Some are going to the clinic at the Brownwood theater and others are going to one of the medical facilities in the Brownwood area.

JSR22
09-06-2021, 02:12 PM
[QUOTE=twotogo;1999205]Does anyone know what the guidelines are for being treated @ Barnstorm Theater with the monoclonal therapy? Do you have to be tested first somewhere else It looks like you have to make an appointment online. Anyone know the facts? Thanks[/QUOT


With all these positive COVID-19 people coming to Brownwood - maybe a good idea to steer clear of the area ?? I mean they are only there cuz they are sick !!
Many of the people do not have COVID and are getting the treatments for prevention. They are parking on the side of the theater and entering through the side door not the square entrance. I have dinner res in Brownwood Wed evening.

Mrprez
09-06-2021, 02:23 PM
My guess: Some are going to the clinic at the Brownwood theater and others are going to one of the medical facilities in the Brownwood area.

Yep, could be. Maddening.

Velvet
09-06-2021, 02:38 PM
You know the side effects of this treatment, no? Not fun, really. But worth it IF you’re likely to have Covid.

Ben Franklin
09-06-2021, 03:49 PM
Someone mentioned it's free. However, it is very expensive, and WE are all paying for it.

My question is - is anyone in the medical profession monitoring this, or does our info come from politicians and/or anecdotal testimonials? Who is keeping the stats?

Villages Kahuna
09-06-2021, 04:37 PM
I find it absolutely amazing that people, including our governor, refuse to get a simple almost painless vaccination, but yet willingly consider and recommend the infusion of antibodies with the use of an IV, pumping medicines of unknown origins into your bloodstream for an hour or so. Do people realize that the antigens being recommended are components of serum and red blood cells from other individuals or even animals?

Simply amazing. Sad, but amazing.

NoMoSno
09-06-2021, 04:45 PM
I find it absolutely amazing that people, including our governor, refuse to get a simple almost painless vaccination, but yet willingly consider and recommend the infusion of antibodies with the use of an IV, pumping medicines of unknown origins into your bloodstream for an hour or so. Do people realize that the antigens being recommended are components of serum and red blood cells from other individuals or even animals?

Simply amazing. Sad, but amazing.
Where did you get your info on DeSantis not being vaccinated?
He was vaccinated last April:
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis Receives Single-Dose COVID-19 Vaccine – NBC 6 South Florida (https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/florida-gov-ron-desantis-receives-single-dose-covid-19-vaccine/2423449/)
Simply amazing and sad people spread false information.

Koapaka
09-06-2021, 04:49 PM
Interesting read....For scientists, path to covid endgame remains uncertain (https://news.yahoo.com/scientists-path-covid-endgame-remains-232022995.html)

coffeebean
09-06-2021, 05:33 PM
The no proof thing is not being honored by Walgreens and CVS pharmacies as they cross examine you and one one occasion someone said they had taken a steroid. They wanted to see the prescription bottle!
IMHO, there is nothing wrong with requiring proof that an individual meets the criteria for the treatment. I would bet there are people who seek the treatment as a prophylaxis treatment.

coffeebean
09-06-2021, 05:49 PM
~~~

OrangeBlossomBaby
09-06-2021, 06:40 PM
IMHO, there is nothing wrong with requiring proof that an individual meets the criteria for the treatment. I would bet there are people who seek the treatment as a prophylaxis treatment.

There are people who buy horse dewormer from Rural King. of COURSE there are people who seek experimental antibody infusions rather than the FDA-approved vaccine.

biker1
09-06-2021, 08:04 PM
So I am guessing that the answer to my question is "no". I had the treatment. They did not require proof of a positive test. I was exposed and that was good enough for the treatment.

Go up a couple of responses. One said they needed a test and the one right after said no test required. Which is it?

29 and 30.

biker1
09-06-2021, 08:07 PM
OK, how much is "many"? Please provide data.

[QUOTE=Chiefhyde;1999681]
Many of the people do not have COVID and are getting the treatments for prevention. They are parking on the side of the theater and entering through the side door not the square entrance. I have dinner res in Brownwood Wed evening.

Mrprez
09-06-2021, 08:26 PM
So I am guessing that the answer to my question is "no". I had the treatment. They did not require proof of a positive test. I was exposed and that was good enough for the treatment.

That’s what I figured. Good to know what is what.

Bill14564
09-06-2021, 08:36 PM
Someone mentioned it's free. However, it is very expensive, and WE are all paying for it.

My question is - is anyone in the medical profession monitoring this, or does our info come from politicians and/or anecdotal testimonials? Who is keeping the stats?

So if we save money by reducing the number of people getting the treatments my taxes will go down?

biker1
09-06-2021, 08:38 PM
I would not recommend that someone get the 4 shot treatment without a compelling reason to do so. Many medicines have side effects. You only want to take medicines when the pros outweigh the cons.

That’s what I figured. Good to know what is what.

Life as I know it
09-07-2021, 04:59 AM
It is my understanding that people can go there if they have Covid or have been exposed to someone who has the virus? If so, I don’t understand why it would be allowed at a public square where these same people who go for treatment spill out to the square putting so many other people at the square at risk? Would it not be safer for EVERYONE if this clinic was held at one of the larger Rec centers?
I have no plans to play Russian Roulette by going anywhere near that square. I know it’s my choice, so I will stay away….if businesses are smart, they will start requiring everyone coming in to wear masks because this is not going to stop until we start getting smart. A third variance of COVID-19 is coming to a theater near you…..

elevatorman
09-07-2021, 05:53 AM
This is from the FDA Fact Sheet
For treatment, intravenous infusion is strongly recommended. Subcutaneous injection is an alternative route of administration when intravenous infusion is not feasible and would lead to delay in treatment.

So I guess it is not feasible to do intravenous infusion?

https://www.fda.gov/media/145611/download

Mrprez
09-07-2021, 06:02 AM
I would not recommend that someone get the 4 shot treatment without a compelling reason to do so. Many medicines have side effects. You only want to take medicines when the pros outweigh the cons.

Agreed. For me, at this point, I have zero intention of getting this treatment.

Mrprez
09-07-2021, 06:04 AM
It is my understanding that people can go there if they have Covid or have been exposed to someone who has the virus? If so, I don’t understand why it would be allowed at a public square where these same people who go for treatment spill out to the square putting so many other people at the square at risk? Would it not be safer for EVERYONE if this clinic was held at one of the larger Rec centers?
I have no plans to play Russian Roulette by going anywhere near that square. I know it’s my choice, so I will stay away….if businesses are smart, they will start requiring everyone coming in to wear masks because this is not going to stop until we start getting smart. A third variance of COVID-19 is coming to a theater near you…..

We have discussed this already. Please read from the read beginning. Nobody is “spilling out onto the square”.

Hiltongrizz11
09-07-2021, 06:39 AM
Monoclonal Antibody Therapy | Florida Department of Health COVID-19 Outbreak (https://floridahealthcovid19.gov/monoclonal-antibody-therapy/)

Monoclonal antibody treatments can prevent severe illness, hospitalization and death in high-risk patients who have contracted or been exposed to COVID-19. These treatments are widely available in Florida.

* Treatment is free and vaccination status does not matter. If you are 12 years and older and are at high risk for severe illness due to COVID-19, you are eligible for this treatment.
* In clinical trials, monoclonal antibody treatment showed a 70% reduction in hospitalization and death.
* For high-risk patients who have been exposed to someone with COVID19, Regeneron can give you temporary immunity to decrease your odds of catching the infection by over 80%.

Such a thorough answer and yet you don't even answer the question...WHEN can someone go?

They must test positive and or have symptoms!

All those heroics for nothing

Pat2015
09-07-2021, 07:40 AM
Why doesn’t DeSantis push vaccination and masks to prevent COVID?. Oh wait, does he hv an interest in the monoclonal treatment? Donors, stocks, etc? Asking for a friend.

DeSantis is vaccinated and has pushed people to get vaccinated. He also made it available to people over 65 first who were the hardest hit with COVID when all this started. Please provide quotes where he has told people not to get vaccinated as they don’t exist. Here is a quote from him, “So here’s, I think, the most important thing with the data: if you are vaccinated—fully vaccinated—the chance of you getting seriously ill or dying from COVID is effectively zero,” DeSantis said. “If you look at the people who are being admitted to hospitals, over 95 percent of them are either not fully vaccinated or not vaccinated at all. These vaccines are saving lives. They are reducing mortality.”

Also, how about stopping with the false conspiracy nonsense for a treatment that works! Does Fauci have stock in the company?
“We want people out there, including physicians as well as potential patients, to realize the advantage of this very effective way of treating early infection," Dr. Fauci said. "Clinical trials have demonstrated that early treatment with anti-SARS-CoV-2 monoclonal antibodies can reduce the risk of COVID-19 hospitalization or death by 70 [percent] to 85 percent."

Pat2015
09-07-2021, 07:43 AM
Someone mentioned it's free. However, it is very expensive, and WE are all paying for it.

My question is - is anyone in the medical profession monitoring this, or does our info come from politicians and/or anecdotal testimonials? Who is keeping the stats?
If you consider Fauci to be a politician I guess the answer is yes! “We want people out there, including physicians as well as potential patients, to realize the advantage of this very effective way of treating early infection," Dr. Fauci said. "Clinical trials have demonstrated that early treatment with anti-SARS-CoV-2 monoclonal antibodies can reduce the risk of COVID-19 hospitalization or death by 70 [percent] to 85 percent."

Pat2015
09-07-2021, 07:49 AM
Fortunately all my friends are vaccinated. Desantis’s rollout was so good that Florida’s cases are the highest with so many deaths that there is nowhere to put the bodies. I call that a success.
Florida has done much better than many other states with deaths per capita. Much better to be here than in places like NY, NJ, and 13 other states per the latest data. • U.S. COVID-19 death rate by state | Statista (https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/)

Bonnevie
09-07-2021, 08:18 AM
DeSantis is vaccinated and has pushed people to get vaccinated. He also made it available to people over 65 first who were the hardest hit with COVID when all this started. Please provide quotes where he has told people not to get vaccinated as they don’t exist. Here is a quote from him, “So here’s, I think, the most important thing with the data: if you are vaccinated—fully vaccinated—the chance of you getting seriously ill or dying from COVID is effectively zero,” DeSantis said. “If you look at the people who are being admitted to hospitals, over 95 percent of them are either not fully vaccinated or not vaccinated at all. These vaccines are saving lives. They are reducing mortality.”

Also, how about stopping with the donor conspiracy nonsense for a treatment that works! Does Fauci have stock in the company?
“We want people out there, including physicians as well as potential patients, to realize the advantage of this very effective way of treating early infection," Dr. Fauci said. "Clinical trials have demonstrated that early treatment with anti-SARS-CoV-2 monoclonal antibodies can reduce the risk of COVID-19 hospitalization or death by 70 [percent] to 85 percent."

yes, DeSantis is saying get the vaccine but he's make a huge show of opening the regeneron clinics. so that isn't really reinforcing that the vaccine is necessary. in a way, it's saying you don't have to get the vaccine because he's an alternate. I'm not saying to not have the clinics, but he's hardly beating the drum for vaccination while taking photo ops every time he opens one of these.

Wyseguy
09-07-2021, 08:29 AM
Monoclonal Antibody Therapy | Florida Department of Health COVID-19 Outbreak (https://floridahealthcovid19.gov/monoclonal-antibody-therapy/)

Monoclonal antibody treatments can prevent severe illness, hospitalization and death in high-risk patients who have contracted or been exposed to COVID-19. These treatments are widely available in Florida.

* Treatment is free and vaccination status does not matter. If you are 12 years and older and are at high risk for severe illness due to COVID-19, you are eligible for this treatment.
* In clinical trials, monoclonal antibody treatment showed a 70% reduction in hospitalization and death.
* For high-risk patients who have been exposed to someone with COVID19, Regeneron can give you temporary immunity to decrease your odds of catching the infection by over 80%.

Do you need to test positive first. Does it do any good before someone has covid?

Wyseguy
09-07-2021, 08:31 AM
yes, DeSantis is saying get the vaccine but he's make a huge show of opening the regeneron clinics. so that isn't really reinforcing that the vaccine is necessary. in a way, it's saying you don't have to get the vaccine because he's an alternate. I'm not saying to not have the clinics, but he's hardly beating the drum for vaccination while taking photo ops every time he opens one of these.

Please stop spreading lies about our Governor. He is vaccinated and asks all who can to get vaccinated. People like me, who have been advised not to get the vaccine, appreciate the governors information on what we can do should we get this covid.

Wyseguy
09-07-2021, 08:33 AM
Per governor DeSantis direction there is a current standing order in Florida signed by the states surgeon general that allows patients to receive this treatment without a prescription or referral if administered by eligible healthcare provider.
referrals are not required at any state of Florida for monoclonal antibody treatment sites and treatments are available at no cost to patients

God Bless our Governor. I meet with my doctor Friday to discuss this as a go to shoul;d the need arise. It is an option AFTER you show positive, correct? Can you get it; would it do any good prior to being positive?

Wyseguy
09-07-2021, 08:51 AM
You have to have symptoms first!


Are you certain? I also have heard that if you are high risk and have been in contact with someone who tested p[ositiove, you are eligible.

Wyseguy
09-07-2021, 08:55 AM
Why doesn’t DeSantis push vaccination and masks to prevent COVID?. Oh wait, does he hv an interest in the monoclonal treatment? Donors, stocks, etc? Asking for a friend.

Stop being so negative and divisive.

Wyseguy
09-07-2021, 08:58 AM
We couldn’t find anywhere that we could get a Covid test to confirm our suspicions that we were positive which is what we needed to get the monoclonal treatments at Brownwood. We ended up going to UFH across from Brownwood to get the Covid test confirmation and the monoclonal treatment. Going early makes a big difference in a speedier recovery. We had been vaccinated which reduced our symptoms. The weakness in the health system, in my opinion, is the initial Covid testing which is difficult to find.

Walgreens and CVS offer home tests. Swab in the nose, fifteen minutes you have the answer. Two tests per pack.

merrymini
09-07-2021, 09:00 AM
Even people who are vaccinated get covid, so having a treatment is good. He has been very positive about vaccinations from the get go. This is another way of helping and I appreciate the guy for being truthful and courageous.

Wyseguy
09-07-2021, 09:00 AM
Fortunately all my friends are vaccinated. Desantis’s rollout was so good that Florida’s cases are the highest with so many deaths that there is nowhere to put the bodies. I call that a success.

Such a bitter divisive person. I will pray for you.

Wyseguy
09-07-2021, 09:02 AM
I find it absolutely amazing that people, including our governor, refuse to get a simple almost painless vaccination, but yet willingly consider and recommend the infusion of antibodies with the use of an IV, pumping medicines of unknown origins into your bloodstream for an hour or so. Do people realize that the antigens being recommended are components of serum and red blood cells from other individuals or even animals?

Simply amazing. Sad, but amazing.

I find it simply amazing that some are so willing to spread lies such as the Governor not being vaccinated. Are these people simply dark and divisive, or are they ignorant of the facts? Sad but amazing

Betsysutika5
09-07-2021, 09:05 AM
Ok, my concern is the removal of trash, gloves, medical gear, etc from the building....drive over for yourself...go outback in the parking lot. They had a dumpster ( low sides) delivered and sitting out back of the theatre...we watched a fully garbed , masked, person with full gear...they throw the trash out in the dumpster with no lid, torn open bags, etc. of medical waste....we seen the wind blowing the trash, and birds. just wondering if they are disposing of it correctly and safely for the community?

Vermilion Villager
09-07-2021, 09:14 AM
Does anyone know what the guidelines are for being treated @ Barnstorm Theater with the monoclonal therapy? Do you have to be tested first somewhere else It looks like you have to make an appointment online. Anyone know the facts? Thanks
I read that the monoclonal therapy was created from stem cells from aborted fetuses and the makers of Regeneron appear to confirm this. Hmmm.............:undecided:

Pat2015
09-07-2021, 09:39 AM
yes, DeSantis is saying get the vaccine but he's make a huge show of opening the regeneron clinics. so that isn't really reinforcing that the vaccine is necessary. in a way, it's saying you don't have to get the vaccine because he's an alternate. I'm not saying to not have the clinics, but he's hardly beating the drum for vaccination while taking photo ops every time he opens one of these.
That’s simply not true as he has done everything that he could to get the vaccines rolled out here and has strongly encouraged people to get vaccinated. He along with Fauci are pushing for this treatment as it keeps people from getting very sick, ending up in the hospital, and potentially dying.

JSR22
09-07-2021, 09:42 AM
I read that the monoclonal therapy was created from stem cells from aborted fetuses and the makers of Regeneron appear to confirm this. Hmmm.............:undecided:

The Governor of Texas had this therapy. HAH

Ben Franklin
09-07-2021, 10:09 AM
I still don't know if any qualified studies are being done during this state wide sales pitch for regeneron, or if it's all anecdotal. Not talking about the rushed product itself, but is anyone verifying these treatments? And, why are people willing to take regeneron, but not the vaccine? They were both rushed, and both were just fully approved less than a month ago.

jimjamuser
09-07-2021, 11:05 AM
Walk-ups or online appointments are accepted. According to the people at Barnstorm, the candidates are those with a positive test and those who have been exposed, such as if your spouse has tested positive. No referrals or test results are required. I suspect a lot are breakthrough cases.
A recent study put the risk of hospitalization for VACCINATED people at 1 out of 5,000. For an area like TV Land that has a HIGH percentage of vaccinations the risk is EVEN LESS - 1 out of 10,000. And YES.......I read about this study in the NY Times, which some (MANY) will immediately say, "it's just a commie, lib, radical, hippy type WORTHLESS newspaper. So, there, I saved you the trouble! Ignore this study at your own risk of IGNORANCE.

jimjamuser
09-07-2021, 11:16 AM
We decided against going for the third shot right now even though no documentation is needed as we feel possibly we would take it away from someone who actually needs it right now.
Kudos! That is a very empathetic thing to do. I worry that some people may think that they need a shot every month. That could (?) backfire on them? I hope people are conscientious, but will they be? Or will it be like the rush to buy that horse worming medicine - ivermectin?

Bucco
09-07-2021, 11:21 AM
A recent study put the risk of hospitalization for VACCINATED people at 1 out of 5,000. For an area like TV Land that has a HIGH percentage of vaccinations the risk is EVEN LESS - 1 out of 10,000. And YES.......I read about this study in the NY Times, which some (MANY) will immediately say, "it's just a commie, lib, radical, hippy type WORTHLESS newspaper. So, there, I saved you the trouble! Ignore this study at your own risk of IGNORANCE.

IN actual fact, the Times reported that the risk of hospitalization for vaccinated at 1 per 100.000

And while I know that YOU do not need it, and find it …whatever….

“The rate of hospitalization among the vaccinated was 1 per 100,000 people. The age-adjusted hospitalization rate in unvaccinated persons was 29.4 per 100,000.”

And forgive me for attaching a link to that..

What Vaccinated People Need to Know About Breakthrough Infections - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/article/breakthrough-infections-covid-19-coronavirus.html)

And on the comment about the New York Times, which is understand you are not making, but repeating……

I have asked and asked for folks to show me proof of what they say about The NY Times……..never get any.

The assault on the Times has an pretty easy source if you are interested, and it always, the attacks, when someone does not like REAL FACTUAL news……I assume that most are smart enough to know i am not speaking to editorial comment, but reporting of news.

And the adjectives you used, which are pretty accurate go back many years and were always proven worthless then and still are. File it under…..”not really wanting truth but more interested in being made feel good” OR even “articles are too long and full of news”. BOTH of which I have read on this forum.

Sorry for supplying a link and a quote…….but you know some people do not tell the truth or bend it quite a bit.

jimjamuser
09-07-2021, 11:29 AM
No. You are a candidate for the injections if you have tested positive or you have been exposed. You do not need to show proof of either.
There IS a very stringent test - a person MUST demonstrate the ability to walk and chew gum at the same time. This is, of course, a JOKE! But, it is funny because it is rather close to the REAL requirements. Please refer back to # 76

jimjamuser
09-07-2021, 11:34 AM
Why doesn’t DeSantis push vaccination and masks to prevent COVID?. Oh wait, does he hv an interest in the monoclonal treatment? Donors, stocks, etc? Asking for a friend.
I DID hear that, also.

Bucco
09-07-2021, 11:36 AM
If you consider Fauci to be a politician I guess the answer is yes! “We want people out there, including physicians as well as potential patients, to realize the advantage of this very effective way of treating early infection," Dr. Fauci said. "Clinical trials have demonstrated that early treatment with anti-SARS-CoV-2 monoclonal antibodies can reduce the risk of COVID-19 hospitalization or death by 70 [percent] to 85 percent."


We seem to live in an era where folks who run for office and get elected suddenly are blessed with medical skills along with other great traits, even though historically it can be proven wrong.
———————————————— ——-

“ Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation’s top infectious disease expert, sought to remind Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis of the critical role played by vaccines throughout history in response to the Republican’s latest controversial comments about COVID-19 shots.

“ DeSantis ― whose state is currently being ravaged by the highly contagious delta variant of the virus and who has personally battled to ban mask mandates in schools ― on Friday suggested vaccinations are “about your health and whether you want that protection or not” and “really doesn’t impact me or anyone else.”

DeSantis Gets Vital History Lesson From Fauci Over 'Completely Incorrect' Vaccine Claim (https://news.yahoo.com/desantis-gets-vital-history-lesson-124306682.html)
———————————————— ————-

Country in time of stress or threat used to come together to solve the problem using all skill sets, no matter what side they stood on generally.

biker1
09-07-2021, 11:39 AM
I am not sure what your problem is and I really don’t care. I posted the situation at the Barnstorm Theatre. What you posted has nothing to do with the facts that I posted. In the future, try to stay on point and not act like a jerk.



A recent study put the risk of hospitalization for VACCINATED people at 1 out of 5,000. For an area like TV Land that has a HIGH percentage of vaccinations the risk is EVEN LESS - 1 out of 10,000. And YES.......I read about this study in the NY Times, which some (MANY) will immediately say, "it's just a commie, lib, radical, hippy type WORTHLESS newspaper. So, there, I saved you the trouble! Ignore this study at your own risk of IGNORANCE.

jimjamuser
09-07-2021, 11:46 AM
Fortunately all my friends are vaccinated. Desantis’s rollout was so good that Florida’s cases are the highest with so many deaths that there is nowhere to put the bodies. I call that a success.
The Pandemic of the UNvaccinated. At least, now they can get treated. Makes one wonder about that famous quote from S. Weaver in the movie "Aliens", "has IQs dropped while I was gone?"

jimjamuser
09-07-2021, 11:49 AM
Someone mentioned it's free. However, it is very expensive, and WE are all paying for it.

My question is - is anyone in the medical profession monitoring this, or does our info come from politicians and/or anecdotal testimonials? Who is keeping the stats?
Well, I hope it is NOT DR. Atlas.

biker1
09-07-2021, 11:49 AM
I posted the facts. If you don’t like them then too bad. Nobody cares what you think. See post #1 for the actual topic of the thread.


There IS a very stringent test - a person MUST demonstrate the ability to walk and chew gum at the same time. This is, of course, a JOKE! But, it is funny because it is rather close to the REAL requirements. Please refer back to # 76

jimjamuser
09-07-2021, 12:00 PM
I would not recommend that someone get the 4 shot treatment without a compelling reason to do so. Many medicines have side effects. You only want to take medicines when the pros outweigh the cons.
I FULLY agree with the contents of this post !

biker1
09-07-2021, 12:03 PM
I don’t believe there are any shortages of the vaccines around here. I know several people who received their 3rd shot without any issues. If your Dr. recommends the 3rd shot then you should seriously consider getting it. The shortages appear to be outside the US. You can’t impact that.



We decided against going for the third shot right now even though no documentation is needed as we feel possibly we would take it away from someone who actually needs it right now.

biker1
09-07-2021, 12:03 PM
I’m so happy.


I FULLY agree with the contents of this post !

Bucco
09-07-2021, 12:04 PM
We seem to live in an era where folks who run for office and get elected suddenly are blessed with medical skills along with other great traits, even though historically it can be proven wrong.
———————————————— ——-

“ Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation’s top infectious disease expert, sought to remind Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis of the critical role played by vaccines throughout history in response to the Republican’s latest controversial comments about COVID-19 shots.

“ DeSantis ― whose state is currently being ravaged by the highly contagious delta variant of the virus and who has personally battled to ban mask mandates in schools ― on Friday suggested vaccinations are “about your health and whether you want that protection or not” and “really doesn’t impact me or anyone else.”

DeSantis Gets Vital History Lesson From Fauci Over 'Completely Incorrect' Vaccine Claim (https://news.yahoo.com/desantis-gets-vital-history-lesson-124306682.html)
———————————————— ————-

Country in time of stress or threat used to come together to solve the problem using all skill sets, no matter what side they stood on generally.

————————————-

Just wanted to add more of Dr Faucci remarks, as I have been reminded that most do not care to read any links, so allow me to bore them a bit more in what Dr Faucci had to say...

“If he feels that vaccines are not important for people, that they are just important for some people, that’s completely incorrect,” Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said on Tuesday’s broadcast of CNN’s “New Day.”

“Vaccination ... has been the solution to every major public health issue in which a vaccine was developed for,” he continued. “I mean: smallpox, polio, measles. I’m not sure what people are talking about when they push back on vaccinations. It is historically, over decades and decades and decades, shown to be the way you control an infectious disease.”

I mean, obviously it’s important for you as an individual for your own personal protection, safety and health. But when you have a virus that’s circulating in the community and you are not vaccinated, you are part of the problem because you are allowing yourself to be a vehicle for the virus to be spreading to someone else.”

“It isn’t as if it stops with you. If that were the case, then it would be only about you. But it doesn’t,” he added. “You can get infected even if you get no symptoms or minimally symptomatic and then pass it on to someone who in fact might be very vulnerable ― an elderly person, a person with an underlying disease. So when you’re dealing with an outbreak of an infectious disease, it isn’t only about you. There is a societal responsibility that we all have.”

To those who are insulted by links to back up....that’s it.

jimjamuser
09-07-2021, 12:06 PM
yes, DeSantis is saying get the vaccine but he's make a huge show of opening the regeneron clinics. so that isn't really reinforcing that the vaccine is necessary. in a way, it's saying you don't have to get the vaccine because he's an alternate. I'm not saying to not have the clinics, but he's hardly beating the drum for vaccination while taking photo ops every time he opens one of these.
Kudos! Good perception and logic.

jimjamuser
09-07-2021, 12:11 PM
Ok, my concern is the removal of trash, gloves, medical gear, etc from the building....drive over for yourself...go outback in the parking lot. They had a dumpster ( low sides) delivered and sitting out back of the theatre...we watched a fully garbed , masked, person with full gear...they throw the trash out in the dumpster with no lid, torn open bags, etc. of medical waste....we seen the wind blowing the trash, and birds. just wondering if they are disposing of it correctly and safely for the community?
And I have my doubts.

jimjamuser
09-07-2021, 12:15 PM
IN actual fact, the Times reported that the risk of hospitalization for vaccinated at 1 per 100.000

And while I know that YOU do not need it, and find it …whatever….

“The rate of hospitalization among the vaccinated was 1 per 100,000 people. The age-adjusted hospitalization rate in unvaccinated persons was 29.4 per 100,000.”

And forgive me for attaching a link to that..

What Vaccinated People Need to Know About Breakthrough Infections - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/article/breakthrough-infections-covid-19-coronavirus.html)

And on the comment about the New York Times, which is understand you are not making, but repeating……

I have asked and asked for folks to show me proof of what they say about The NY Times……..never get any.

The assault on the Times has an pretty easy source if you are interested, and it always, the attacks, when someone does not like REAL FACTUAL news……I assume that most are smart enough to know i am not speaking to editorial comment, but reporting of news.

And the adjectives you used, which are pretty accurate go back many years and were always proven worthless then and still are. File it under…..”not really wanting truth but more interested in being made feel good” OR even “articles are too long and full of news”. BOTH of which I have read on this forum.

Sorry for supplying a link and a quote…….but you know some people do not tell the truth or bend it quite a bit.
I agree with the contents of this post.

jimjamuser
09-07-2021, 12:28 PM
I am not sure what your problem is and I really don’t care. I posted the situation at the Barnstorm Theatre. What you posted has nothing to do with the facts that I posted. In the future, try to stay on point and not act like a jerk.
OK, I will try NOT to act like a JERK as I RIDE MY MOTORCYCLE down to Barnstorm without a helmet on to get my treatment. I hope I pass my test to get in - I hear it is VERY rigorous and they allow NO JERKS in. I will try my best to fool them. Wish me luck! Here I go........VAROOM, VAROOM! HEAR ME roar, " in numbers too BIG to IGNORE - also decibels!

jimjamuser
09-07-2021, 12:32 PM
I am not sure what your problem is and I really don’t care. I posted the situation at the Barnstorm Theatre. What you posted has nothing to do with the facts that I posted. In the future, try to stay on point and not act like a jerk.
Sorry, I just picked an arbitrary post out of the many. I won't make that mistake again!

Wyseguy
09-07-2021, 01:33 PM
Fortunately all my friends are vaccinated. Desantis’s rollout was so good that Florida’s cases are the highest with so many deaths that there is nowhere to put the bodies. I call that a success.

Why do you post the same silliness over and over again. Being divisive and antagonistic is not a virtue.

jimjamuser
09-07-2021, 04:42 PM
————————————-

Just wanted to add more of Dr Faucci remarks, as I have been reminded that most do not care to read any links, so allow me to bore them a bit more in what Dr Faucci had to say...

“If he feels that vaccines are not important for people, that they are just important for some people, that’s completely incorrect,” Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said on Tuesday’s broadcast of CNN’s “New Day.”

“Vaccination ... has been the solution to every major public health issue in which a vaccine was developed for,” he continued. “I mean: smallpox, polio, measles. I’m not sure what people are talking about when they push back on vaccinations. It is historically, over decades and decades and decades, shown to be the way you control an infectious disease.”

I mean, obviously it’s important for you as an individual for your own personal protection, safety and health. But when you have a virus that’s circulating in the community and you are not vaccinated, you are part of the problem because you are allowing yourself to be a vehicle for the virus to be spreading to someone else.”

“It isn’t as if it stops with you. If that were the case, then it would be only about you. But it doesn’t,” he added. “You can get infected even if you get no symptoms or minimally symptomatic and then pass it on to someone who in fact might be very vulnerable ― an elderly person, a person with an underlying disease. So when you’re dealing with an outbreak of an infectious disease, it isn’t only about you. There is a societal responsibility that we all have.”

To those who are insulted by links to back up....that’s it.
I don't mind reading links - I just do NOT like to look them up to post them in my posts. What I write are my opinions that I am left with AFTER I digest the current events and the news.

coffeebean
09-07-2021, 08:31 PM
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coffeebean
09-07-2021, 08:33 PM
God Bless our Governor. I meet with my doctor Friday to discuss this as a go to shoul;d the need arise. It is an option AFTER you show positive, correct? Can you get it; would it do any good prior to being positive?

Why not get the vaccine if you have not been exposed or test positive? Why seek a prophylaxis treatment when the vaccine is the better alternative?

coffeebean
09-07-2021, 08:43 PM
That’s simply not true as he has done everything that he could to get the vaccines rolled out here and has strongly encouraged people to get vaccinated. He along with Fauci are pushing for this treatment as it keeps people from getting very sick, ending up in the hospital, and potentially dying.

So does the vaccine. Why not prevent the infection so there would be no need for the Regeneron treatment?

stanley
09-07-2021, 09:01 PM
OK, I will try NOT to act like a JERK as I RIDE MY MOTORCYCLE down to Barnstorm without a helmet on to get my treatment. I hope I pass my test to get in - I hear it is VERY rigorous and they allow NO JERKS in. I will try my best to fool them. Wish me luck! Here I go........VAROOM, VAROOM! HEAR ME roar, " in numbers too BIG to IGNORE - also decibels!

Someone needs to double up on his meds

stanley
09-07-2021, 09:09 PM
I don't mind reading links - I just do NOT like to look them up to post them in my posts. What I write are my opinions that I am left with AFTER I digest the current events and the news.

Too funny! You can't mak this sh.t up,!

coffeebean
09-07-2021, 09:12 PM
Why do you post the same silliness over and over again. Being divisive and antagonistic is not a virtue.

Your "silliness" is another's truth. Seems you just do not like the narrative that does not fit your agenda. I do NOT agree with your stance so there is that.

Pat2015
09-07-2021, 09:16 PM
So does the vaccine. Why not prevent the infection so there would be no need for the Regeneron treatment?
The Governor has encouraged people to take the vaccines, as he himself has done. This is a quote from the Governor-
“ So here’s, I think, the most important thing with the data: if you are vaccinated—fully vaccinated—the chance of you getting seriously ill or dying from COVID is effectively zero,” DeSantis said. “If you look at the people who are being admitted to hospitals, over 95 percent of them are either not fully vaccinated or not vaccinated at all. These vaccines are saving lives. They are reducing mortality.” I’d say that’s a strong endorsement for people to get vaccinated! Vaccinated or not though, people are still getting covid thus the push by Fauci of Regeneron which lessens symptoms, and hopefully will keep people out of the hospital, and from dying.

stanley
09-07-2021, 09:22 PM
Your "silliness" is another's truth. Seems you just do not like the narrative that does not fit your agenda. I do NOT agree with your stance so there is that.

Again...that works two ways.

Velvet
09-07-2021, 09:32 PM
So if anyone here got this monoclonal treatment, did you get any side effects?

biker1
09-07-2021, 10:11 PM
I did have the 4 shot antibody treatment at the recommendation of my PCP as I had been exposed. I had no side effects and did not develop a breakthrough case of COVID. If there is a "side effect" it is that I should not get the booster shot for 3 months.

So if anyone here got this monoclonal treatment, did you get any side effects?

coffeebean
09-08-2021, 01:09 PM
I did have the 4 shot antibody treatment at the recommendation of my PCP as I had been exposed. I had no side effects and did not develop a breakthrough case of COVID. If there is a "side effect" it is that I should not get the booster shot for 3 months.

Were your injection sites sore or red or both?

Wyseguy
09-08-2021, 02:02 PM
OK, I will try NOT to act like a JERK as I RIDE MY MOTORCYCLE down to Barnstorm without a helmet on to get my treatment. I hope I pass my test to get in - I hear it is VERY rigorous and they allow NO JERKS in. I will try my best to fool them. Wish me luck! Here I go........VAROOM, VAROOM! HEAR ME roar, " in numbers too BIG to IGNORE - also decibels!

Did you ever see the SouthPark episode about motorcycle riders who rev their engine?