Happy hour at the squares.

[eweissenbach]

I have been going to the town squares for eleven years and still enjoy going , listening, people watching, and occasionally, dancing. We go generally once or twice a week when we are here and not feeling threatened by crowds because of Covid-19. I also enjoy having a mixed drink or two when at the squares. Happy hour is from 5-6 at all squares, but used to be from 5-7 at Spanish Springs. Recently I went to the squares for the first time in quite a while and went to a drink shack about five o’clock. I have for years gotten a double bourbon and seven for the price of a single. I was surprised to learn that the only drinks that are discounted during happy hour now are beer or wine. Now, on the scale of hyper important issues, this doesn’t move the needle, but it did give me pause. First, it appears to me that very few people are frequenting the drink shacks compared to earlier times. It also occurs to me that Harold Schwartz and Gary Morse created the more robust happy hours in order to thank residents and visitors for their patronage and incent them to enjoy the squares. They realized that their business was primarily selling homes and not making money on drinks. It seems that the current generation is more focused on making money on everything, including happy hour drinks. I think it may backfire on them if people simply don’t partake and they still have to pay the bartenders. Speaking of which, the bartenders can’t be making much in tips under the new rules. I am wondering if others have considered this an issue or am I alone?

[dewilson58]

Difficult for me to consider the cost of a Double at the Town Squares an issue with: Leaving Americans Behind, Health Care costs, Climate Change, Hunger, Poverty, Homelessness to name a few going on in the USA.


:beer3:

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Don’t you think it might have something to do with squares being closed for months and that the family isn’t running a charity . Do people tip less because price is up I would hope not but I wouldn’t be surprised . I never go to the squares until after 8 pm anyway unless it was special event and quite frankly no one I know puts happy hour as there first consideration when going out at night

[retiredguy123]

Happy hour, 5-7? Shouldn't that be happy 2 hours?

[Ben Franklin]

All businesses are trying to recoup from last years losses. And, we know that once a price goes up, it seldom ever comes down.

[eweissenbach]

Don’t you think it might have something to do with squares being closed for months and that the family isn’t running a charity . Do people tip less because price is up I would hope not but I wouldn’t be surprised . I never go to the squares until after 8 pm anyway unless it was special event and quite frankly no one I know puts happy hour as there first consideration when going out at night

I don’t know that people tip less - I don’t, but fewer people buying drinks will lead to lower total tips.

[Papa_lecki]

Difficult for me to consider the cost of a Double at the Town Squares an issue with: Leaving Americans Behind, Health Care costs, Climate Change, Hunger, Poverty, Homelessness to name a few going on in the USA.


:beer3:
What about reverse mortgages, the inconsistency of the speed of the greens, and the conditions of the 3rd fairway on Havana

[dewilson58]

What about reverse mortgages, the inconsistency of the speed of the greens, and the conditions of the 3rd fairway on Havana

Jus take out a reverse mortgage and put the funds into an annuity and take the stress out of retirement. :icon_wink:

[Bogie Shooter]

I have been going to the town squares for eleven years and still enjoy going , listening, people watching, and occasionally, dancing. We go generally once or twice a week when we are here and not feeling threatened by crowds because of Covid-19. I also enjoy having a mixed drink or two when at the squares. Happy hour is from 5-6 at all squares, but used to be from 5-7 at Spanish Springs. Recently I went to the squares for the first time in quite a while and went to a drink shack about five o’clock. I have for years gotten a double bourbon and seven for the price of a single. I was surprised to learn that the only drinks that are discounted during happy hour now are beer or wine. Now, on the scale of hyper important issues, this doesn’t move the needle, but it did give me pause. First, it appears to me that very few people are frequenting the drink shacks compared to earlier times. It also occurs to me that Harold Schwartz and Gary Morse created the more robust happy hours in order to thank residents and visitors for their patronage and incent them to enjoy the squares. They realized that their business was primarily selling homes and not making money on drinks. It seems that the current generation is more focused on making money on everything, including happy hour drinks. I think it may backfire on them if people simply don’t partake and they still have to pay the bartenders. Speaking of which, the bartenders can’t be making much in tips under the new rules. I am wondering if others have considered this an issue or am I alone?

I don’t know, but would like to, if the “current generation”gets the revenue from the drink shacks. If so it must be a huge line item on there income statement!

[Ecuadog]

Difficult for me to consider the cost of a Double at the Town Squares an issue with: Leaving Americans Behind, Health Care costs, Climate Change, Hunger, Poverty, Homelessness to name a few going on in the USA.


:beer3:

What about reverse mortgages, the inconsistency of the speed of the greens, and the conditions of the 3rd fairway on Havana

I wish somebody would post a complete list of the subjects that are considered important enough to post about.

[dewilson58]

I wish somebody would post a complete list of the subjects that are considered important enough to post about.

Start a thread. :ho:

[Kelevision]

I was at Brownwood eating at Blue Fin Saturday night. The square was crowded. The bar at Blue Fin was full and there was a wait for tables. I saw a few people going to that bar shack but not many. I’m under 60 and wondered who or why anyone would use that bar. I guess it might be a generation thing? Blue Fin has happy hour from 11-7 and 8-close daily.( unless that has changed)

[vintageogauge]

I don't drink beer or wine, I'm just happy that they have liquor available in the shacks when I'm there. I don't go to Edna's for that reason but from what I understand they are always crowded so I guess they will stick with just beer and wine.

[Mrprez]

Jus take out a reverse mortgage and put the funds into an annuity and take the stress out of retirement. :icon_wink:

While drinking your LifeBoost coffee!

[RICH1]

Chili's has 2 for 1 ....

[Laker14]

It could be that the reason for the cost increase, and the reduction in the number of "happy" hours is a concern regarding over-served folks driving around on the roads and MMPs.

[Ecuadog]

I wish somebody would post a complete list of the subjects that are considered important enough to post about.
Start a thread. :ho:

I would if I knew it is considered an important subject.

[dewilson58]

I would if I knew it is considered an important subject.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

The OP asked: I am wondering if others have considered this an issue.

[Timothyimitchell]

What about reverse mortgages, the inconsistency of the speed of the greens, and the conditions of the 3rd fairway on Havana

Thank you

[Shbullet]

Difficult for me to consider the cost of a Double at the Town Squares an issue with: Leaving Americans Behind, Health Care costs, Climate Change, Hunger, Poverty, Homelessness to name a few going on in the USA.


:beer3:

After reading the OPs concern he was clear that his post doesn't move the needle on critical issues in todays world. Didn't you read that! Or do you feel that your role as Mr Helpfull requires your comment to clarify what the OP already stated?
Why not just leave the op get answers/opinions to his question?

[Shbullet]

After reading the OPs concern he was clear that his post doesn't move the needle on critical issues in todays world. Didn't you read that! Or do you feel that your role as Mr Helpfull requires your comment to clarify what the OP already stated?
Why not just leave the op get answers/opinions to his question?

And Im sure your partner in crime (GG) will have a issue with my comment!

[EdFNJ]

And Im sure your partner in crime (GG) will have a issue with my comment! I believe you're talking to yourself! CHeck your post.

After reading the OPs concern he was clear that his post doesn't move the needle on critical issues in todays world. Didn't you read that! Or do you feel that your role as Mr Helpfull requires your comment to clarify what the OP already stated?
Why not just leave the op get answers/opinions to his question? Because that is how (sortof) anonymous forums on the internet work. Have you read the other 10,000+ threads here? For direct person to person Q & A there are 3000+ clubs here where everyone is known by their real name! :1rotfl:

[Garywt]

I guess I would not know as I have never bought a drink at any of the squares.

[Skip]

OP:
Wow! That is a big change. Next thing you know, the Booze Shacks will raise the prices again and then declare "Happy Hour All Day".

Some restaurants have done that already. Who falls for that scam?

Skip ("Make It A Double")

[thevillages2013]

The price of liquor has not increased at all. I know because I buy it constantly (for my wife) 😀. I do look for the best deals on what we drink. I am talking about buying bottles at a liquor store not drinks. Just saying there must be another reason for raising prices at the bait shacks. Can’t tell me they are paying the bartenders and bar backs more money

[thevillages2013]

I guess I would know as I have never bought a drink at any of the squares.
Well it’s your turn to buy then!:bigbow:

[Catalina36]

For Your Information, Annuities are the worst investment you can make. Never purchase a Annuity!!!!!!

[donassaid]

Oh good grief. I guess we are not allowed to complain about anything? How about the price of gas and groceries or illegals crossing the border with Covid and being dispersed around the country or the debacle in Afghanistan? Do they qualify as legitimate complaints?

[jack.hunter00@yahoo.com]

You need to understand the order in Florida is greed, nothing but greed.
The Villages has adopted several areas to increase their revenue from us. I will let you learn the other things with hidden price increases.

[golden]

Ecuadog-Here's something really important to talk about.

Disoriented old men who walk around in their pajama tops.

Please add it to your list, judge.

[Eg_cruz]

Difficult for me to consider the cost of a Double at the Town Squares an issue with: Leaving Americans Behind, Health Care costs, Climate Change, Hunger, Poverty, Homelessness to name a few going on in the USA.


:beer3:
It really bugs me when people compare world problems with everyday little things. The Villages changing the drinks cost can be discussed…..people are allow to think and talk about other things then the world crisis.
One thing has zero to do with the other……

[Girlcopper]

I have been going to the town squares for eleven years and still enjoy going , listening, people watching, and occasionally, dancing. We go generally once or twice a week when we are here and not feeling threatened by crowds because of Covid-19. I also enjoy having a mixed drink or two when at the squares. Happy hour is from 5-6 at all squares, but used to be from 5-7 at Spanish Springs. Recently I went to the squares for the first time in quite a while and went to a drink shack about five o’clock. I have for years gotten a double bourbon and seven for the price of a single. I was surprised to learn that the only drinks that are discounted during happy hour now are beer or wine. Now, on the scale of hyper important issues, this doesn’t move the needle, but it did give me pause. First, it appears to me that very few people are frequenting the drink shacks compared to earlier times. It also occurs to me that Harold Schwartz and Gary Morse created the more robust happy hours in order to thank residents and visitors for their patronage and incent them to enjoy the squares. They realized that their business was primarily selling homes and not making money on drinks. It seems that the current generation is more focused on making money on everything, including happy hour drinks. I think it may backfire on them if people simply don’t partake and they still have to pay the bartenders. Speaking of which, the bartenders can’t be making much in tips under the new rules. I am wondering if others have considered this an issue or am I alone?
Complaining about a 2for1 bourbon when the world is falling apart. Seriously???

[DaleDivine]

For Your Information, Annuities are the worst investment you can make. Never purchase a Annuity!!!!!!

I believe that was SARCASM Sheldon...
:popcorn::popcorn::a040::MOJE_whot::clap2:

[frank1975]

This all started when they reopened after Covid-19. It was to have less people standing in line to help with social distancing. As you can see it worked. But this should have ended long ago and go back to 2 for 1 on everything.
SO YOU’RE RIGHT! IT’S ABOUT GREED!!!

[Luggage]

Las Vegas is the same way, now everything is a revenue stream from parking to high priced restaurants even in cheap hotels you will find the resort fee is more than the nightly rate

[Luggage]

He did say this is a minor issue but it's a buggy issue especially to people who like to drink on the cheap

[Beyond The Wall]

I have been going to the town squares for eleven years and still enjoy going , listening, people watching, and occasionally, dancing. We go generally once or twice a week when we are here and not feeling threatened by crowds because of Covid-19. I also enjoy having a mixed drink or two when at the squares. Happy hour is from 5-6 at all squares, but used to be from 5-7 at Spanish Springs. Recently I went to the squares for the first time in quite a while and went to a drink shack about five o’clock. I have for years gotten a double bourbon and seven for the price of a single. I was surprised to learn that the only drinks that are discounted during happy hour now are beer or wine. Now, on the scale of hyper important issues, this doesn’t move the needle, but it did give me pause. First, it appears to me that very few people are frequenting the drink shacks compared to earlier times. It also occurs to me that Harold Schwartz and Gary Morse created the more robust happy hours in order to thank residents and visitors for their patronage and incent them to enjoy the squares. They realized that their business was primarily selling homes and not making money on drinks. It seems that the current generation is more focused on making money on everything, including happy hour drinks. I think it may backfire on them if people simply don’t partake and they still have to pay the bartenders. Speaking of which, the bartenders can’t be making much in tips under the new rules. I am wondering if others have considered this an issue or am I alone?
I think this is a great post. The price of liquor in Florida is much lower then in the north. I felt that after a month or so it would go back to include mixed drinks. Could be money, could be supply , could be greed. People will find a work around. Example; 2 gin and tonics at city fire cheaper then at the hut. And better pours. Go there first then walk into square .
I tip on number of drinks, usually $1 each so it’s not about being cheap. The bartenders don’t set prices. And give them cash, not on card.

[dewilson58]

After reading the OPs concern he was clear that his post doesn't move the needle on critical issues in todays world. Didn't you read that!
I did read.........Thank you for asking.....Quite nice of you.

But it appeared the Dog was confused so I thought I would add some clarification just in case it helped the four legged poster.

:coolsmiley:

[Flyers999]

I rarely buy drinks at the squares, but I bought one last month and did notice that the bartender asked me if I wanted a double, which I thought was strange since during happy hour they would automatically give you one. I just past it off as maybe I was late for happy hour.

[dewilson58]

I rarely buy drinks at the squares, but I bought one last month and did notice that the bartender asked me if I wanted a double, which I thought was strange since during happy hour they would automatically give you one. I just past it off as maybe I was late for happy hour.

I think the Happy Hour is 1/2 priced drinks.......so he/she was just wondering if you want two-4-one.

[Gator_Girl]

BYOB bring your own bourbon

[jbrown132]

I have been going to the town squares for eleven years and still enjoy going , listening, people watching, and occasionally, dancing. We go generally once or twice a week when we are here and not feeling threatened by crowds because of Covid-19. I also enjoy having a mixed drink or two when at the squares. Happy hour is from 5-6 at all squares, but used to be from 5-7 at Spanish Springs. Recently I went to the squares for the first time in quite a while and went to a drink shack about five o’clock. I have for years gotten a double bourbon and seven for the price of a single. I was surprised to learn that the only drinks that are discounted during happy hour now are beer or wine. Now, on the scale of hyper important issues, this doesn’t move the needle, but it did give me pause. First, it appears to me that very few people are frequenting the drink shacks compared to earlier times. It also occurs to me that Harold Schwartz and Gary Morse created the more robust happy hours in order to thank residents and visitors for their patronage and incent them to enjoy the squares. They realized that their business was primarily selling homes and not making money on drinks. It seems that the current generation is more focused on making money on everything, including happy hour drinks. I think it may backfire on them if people simply don’t partake and they still have to pay the bartenders. Speaking of which, the bartenders can’t be making much in tips under the new rules. I am wondering if others have considered this an issue or am I alone?
Anyone who has been here for 10-15 years or more will tell you The Villages is not what it once was. The younger generation of the family certainly does not have the vision that their father and grand father had. What it has turned into is just an area of suburban sprawl with a name. It’s not to say it’s not a place where you can’t have fun but it has lost the magic the founders created with their vision. It’s a business and it’s all about money. Nothing wrong with that, its just the way it is. We either accept it or we leave.

[KYtoTV2021]

Amen. You can readily see this (ie "money, money money" by the fact that they are selling WAY more homes than they have the infrastructure for -- ie not many new exec golf course, no town square in the south end etc. How many tens of millions of dollars is enough?

[coffeebean]

It really bugs me when people compare world problems with everyday little things. The Villages changing the drinks cost can be discussed…..people are allow to think and talk about other things then the world crisis.
One thing has zero to do with the other……

This post has 7 "Thanks" so far, including mine.

[Chi-Town]

I have mentioned jokingly to the bar hut's manager that it is discrimination to eliminate hard alcohol from happy hour. He said that it was coming back but nothing yet. Two doubles is $18.00 plus tip.

[coffeebean]

Complaining about a 2for1 bourbon when the world is falling apart. Seriously???

Little things mean a lot to many people. Sometimes is is cathartic to be concerned with the little stuff in life rather than always worry about the world coming to an end. It is good for my blood pressure, actually.

[KRMACK55]

I have been going to the town squares for eleven years and still enjoy going , listening, people watching, and occasionally, dancing. We go generally once or twice a week when we are here and not feeling threatened by crowds because of Covid-19. I also enjoy having a mixed drink or two when at the squares. Happy hour is from 5-6 at all squares, but used to be from 5-7 at Spanish Springs. Recently I went to the squares for the first time in quite a while and went to a drink shack about five o’clock. I have for years gotten a double bourbon and seven for the price of a single. I was surprised to learn that the only drinks that are discounted during happy hour now are beer or wine. Now, on the scale of hyper important issues, this doesn’t move the needle, but it did give me pause. First, it appears to me that very few people are frequenting the drink shacks compared to earlier times. It also occurs to me that Harold Schwartz and Gary Morse created the more robust happy hours in order to thank residents and visitors for their patronage and incent them to enjoy the squares. They realized that their business was primarily selling homes and not making money on drinks. It seems that the current generation is more focused on making money on everything, including happy hour drinks. I think it may backfire on them if people simply don’t partake and they still have to pay the bartenders. Speaking of which, the bartenders can’t be making much in tips under the new rules. I am wondering if others have considered this an issue or am I alone?
The villages were created by modeling the revenue concept by Disney. TV do not just sell homes they own the means of production the bank the title insurance and own the commercial land where businesses are located and so much more. Where the idea that booze was cheaper to thank the residents is pure fantasy.

[Chiphoneman]

I have been going to the town squares for eleven years and still enjoy going , listening, people watching, and occasionally, dancing. We go generally once or twice a week when we are here and not feeling threatened by crowds because of Covid-19. I also enjoy having a mixed drink or two when at the squares. Happy hour is from 5-6 at all squares, but used to be from 5-7 at Spanish Springs. Recently I went to the squares for the first time in quite a while and went to a drink shack about five o’clock. I have for years gotten a double bourbon and seven for the price of a single. I was surprised to learn that the only drinks that are discounted during happy hour now are beer or wine. Now, on the scale of hyper important issues, this doesn’t move the needle, but it did give me pause. First, it appears to me that very few people are frequenting the drink shacks compared to earlier times. It also occurs to me that Harold Schwartz and Gary Morse created the more robust happy hours in order to thank residents and visitors for their patronage and incent them to enjoy the squares. They realized that their business was primarily selling homes and not making money on drinks. It seems that the current generation is more focused on making money on everything, including happy hour drinks. I think it may backfire on them if people simply don’t partake and they still have to pay the bartenders. Speaking of which, the bartenders can’t be making much in tips under the new rules. I am wondering if others have considered this an issue or am I alone?

Same experience as me and my wife. We went to Spanish for first time in maybe 7-8 months,music was great,but were very surprised by the cost of drinks. I always got a couple of drinks for both of us but last night I bought just 1 drink. Reminded me of that old saying,screw me once,shame on you, screw me 2xs, shame on me. Lost our business, we will check out the happy hours at nearby bars ))

[KRMACK55]

Jus take out a reverse mortgage and put the funds into an annuity and take the stress out of retirement. :icon_wink:
Then take that annuity and sell it to the villages !

[dewilson58]

This post has 7 "Thanks" so far, including mine.

8, I added mine.

[PaulUnderwood]

By my observation happy hour is all night long most people I see bring there own.

[BlackhawksFan]

I was at Brownwood eating at Blue Fin Saturday night. The square was crowded. The bar at Blue Fin was full and there was a wait for tables. I saw a few people going to that bar shack but not many. I’m under 60 and wondered who or why anyone would use that bar. I guess it might be a generation thing? Blue Fin has happy hour from 11-7 and 8-close daily.( unless that has changed)

I may ge wrong but places like Blue Fin aren't allowed to have a customer walk off premises with alcohol. It's permitted on the Squares when bought from the shacks. So if people are watching the entertainment they can't stroll over the blue fin buy a drink and go sit on the square.

[golfing eagles]

I may ge wrong but places like Blue Fin aren't allowed to have a customer walk off premises with alcohol. It's permitted on the Squares when bought from the shacks. So if people are watching the entertainment they can't stroll over the blue fin buy a drink and go sit on the square.

I think you're right---It goes to the concept that the square itself is private Villages property, but the road and sidewalks surrounding the inner square itself is public/county. Therefore, to cross the street would probably violate the open container law (there are anecdotes about people getting ticketed for sitting in their cart with a drink parked to listen to the music) In addition, I think the rule in the square itself is no outside alcohol, so you really can't bring your own or buy from across the street----hence, a drink shack monopoly now with a limited menu:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Stu from NYC]

It really bugs me when people compare world problems with everyday little things. The Villages changing the drinks cost can be discussed…..people are allow to think and talk about other things then the world crisis.
One thing has zero to do with the other……

Very well said. We seem to have the thread police here who think they can tell others what is ok to comment on.

On that note they do not even sell Moscato anymore .

[coralway]

Oh good grief. I guess we are not allowed to complain about anything? How about the price of gas and groceries or illegals crossing the border with Covid and being dispersed around the country or the debacle in Afghanistan? Do they qualify as legitimate complaints?




Didn't you get the memo? The whole Covid thing is fake news, and if it isn't fake, it will go away all by itself one day.

Oh, and by the way, stay away from windmills - they cause cancer.

Your welcome

[realmoxies]

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

The OP asked: I am wondering if others have considered this an issue.
Regardless of whether or not this impacts you, the op has the right to voice an opinion on "just another amenity" being taken away.
I agree, it was really nice being able to go and sit at the square and have a really nice cocktail and enjoy the fruits of my labor.
So count me in as someone who values his amenities and doesn't want them slowly disappear while others moan about how they had to scroll down past a post they aren't interested in.

[golfing eagles]

Regardless of whether or not this impacts you, the op has the right to voice an opinion on "just another amenity" being taken away.
I agree, it was really nice being able to go and sit at the square and have a really nice cocktail and enjoy the fruits of my labor.
So count me in as someone who values his amenities and doesn't want them slowly disappear while others moan about how they had to scroll down past a post they aren't interested in.

Please explain how the cost of a drink during happy hour is "an amenity"

[Ecuadog]

Ecuadog-Here's something really important to talk about.

Disoriented old men who walk around in their pajama tops.

Please add it to your list, judge.

Yee... Haw... Now we're havin' fun.

[merrymini]

I agree, it does not have to be earth shattering to be posted on this site. I do not drink much but have always found the price of drinking out to be high, even for a glass of wine at dinner. I don’t know how people afford it! Although the powers that be considered liquor stores “essential.”

[VILLAGER 2011]

Thank you, and goodbye to Katie Belles, and the Rialto theatre

[PugMom]

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

The OP asked: I am wondering if others have considered this an issue.

we haven't had a good dog-poop thread in awhile,...or white crosses?:icon_wink:

[stanley]

I stepped in dog poop walking to a bar hut once. That was when they had happy hour though

[Ben Franklin]

The villages were created by modeling the revenue concept by Disney. TV do not just sell homes they own the means of production the bank the title insurance and own the commercial land where businesses are located and so much more. Where the idea that booze was cheaper to thank the residents is pure fantasy.

Is that considered socialism or retirement serfdom?

[Bilyclub]

Do they have sharps containers at the square bars?

[golfing eagles]

Do they have sharps containers at the square bars?

Cross threading! 3 minutes in the penalty box:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[coffeebean]

I think you're right---It goes to the concept that the square itself is private Villages property, but the road and sidewalks surrounding the inner square itself is public/county. Therefore, to cross the street would probably violate the open container law (there are anecdotes about people getting ticketed for sitting in their cart with a drink parked to listen to the music) In addition, I think the rule in the square itself is no outside alcohol, so you really can't bring your own or buy from across the street----hence, a drink shack monopoly now with a limited menu:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
What about a drink purchased from The Villages drink shack and sitting in the golf cart to enjoy the music? Hubby and I have did that to maintain a safe distance from others before we were vaccinated. Is that not allowed?

[Ghat724@gmail.com]

The Villages are actually in its decline.
But many and those buying homes, including one who just bought my home, fo not realize it as yet!

[coffeebean]

Thank you, and goodbye to Katie Belles, and the Rialto theatre

Is the Rialto Theater not ever going to re-open? What have you heard?

[golfing eagles]

What about a drink purchased from The Villages drink shack and sitting in the golf cart to enjoy the music? Hubby and I have did that to maintain a safe distance from others before we were vaccinated. Is that not allowed?

Ridiculous as it sounds, I believe there have been people cited for having their cart parked on the square listening with an open container in their possession. Letter of the law vs. why should they care?

[golfing eagles]

The Villages are actually in its decline.
But many and those buying homes, including one who just bought my home, fo not realize it as yet!

Since TV is the fastest growing community in the country, YOU must be the only one that "realizes" it. Congratulations on your "insight"

[Skip]

Is the Rialto Theater not ever going to re-open? What have you heard?

More downtown apartments there. It's on the internet.

Skip

[coffeebean]

Ridiculous as it sounds, I believe there have been people cited for having their cart parked on the square listening with an open container in their possession. Letter of the law vs. why should they care?
So………the sidewalks surrounding the squares are OK but the street is not. Gee, I don’t think I ever realized that. ☹️

[coffeebean]

More downtown apartments there. It's on the internet.

Skip

Oh my. I had not heard that. What about the renovation of the theater? Was that ever started? I can’t keep up.

[coffeebean]

I think you're right---It goes to the concept that the square itself is private Villages property, but the road and sidewalks surrounding the inner square itself is public/county. Therefore, to cross the street would probably violate the open container law (there are anecdotes about people getting ticketed for sitting in their cart with a drink parked to listen to the music) In addition, I think the rule in the square itself is no outside alcohol, so you really can't bring your own or buy from across the street----hence, a drink shack monopoly now with a limited menu:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
I just re-read your post. Even the sidewalks surrounding the squares are out of the area where one can drink an adult beverage? Yikes! Hubby and I have been strolling on the sidewalks surrounding the squares for ever while sipping on wine.

[Bogie Shooter]

The Villages are actually in its decline.
But many and those buying homes, including one who just bought my home, fo not realize it as yet!

Don’t forget to turn off the light as you leave.

[golfing eagles]

I just re-read your post. Even the sidewalks surrounding the squares are out of the area where one can drink an adult beverage? Yikes! Hubby and I have been strolling on the sidewalks surrounding the squares for ever while sipping on wine.

I'm not sure about that. The sidewalks on the store side are out of bounds, but the "square" may begin at the curb of the inside of the square. Probably does, since you may need to walk on the side walk there to bring a drink from the shack to your seat. In either case, I can't imagine the police enforcing that one.

[lkagele]

For Your Information, Annuities are the worst investment you can make. Never purchase a Annuity!!!!!!

Especially at the Square drink shack, unless it's happy hour......

[lkagele]

Cross threading! 3 minutes in the penalty box:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

I hear the penalty box serves drinks at happy hour prices so it's not that bad......

[La lamy]

Wow, amazing how many people responded to this! So I thought I'd join in, with no opinion about it. :popcorn:

[Spalumbos62]

Complaining about a 2for1 bourbon when the world is falling apart. Seriously???

MAYBE we are all tired of talking about the world falling apart...maybe just a minimal debate of what is going on with drink prices at the squares is a nice diversion....that is of course without all the nasty d%&khead remarks

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

The Villages are actually in its decline.
But many and those buying homes, including one who just bought my home, fo not realize it as yet! I just bought my 6th home here , how stupid of me , GEE if I had only known

[Davonu]

The Villages are actually in its decline.
But many and those buying homes, including one who just bought my home, fo not realize it as yet!
Yeah, people are flocking here so they can witness the demise. :shocked:

[dewilson58]

The Villages are actually in its decline.
But many and those buying homes, including one who just bought my home, fo not realize it as yet!

Just joined ToTV in July and sold your house already.
Thanks for staying connected to this declining place & educating the remaining 150,000 people.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Bilyclub]

Just joined ToTV in July and sold your house already.
Thanks for staying connected to this declining place & educating the remaining 150,000 people.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Dig a little deeper:

I have a manufactured home in the historic district . If interested, please get back.

[jmcica@aol.com]

Agree- such mean cranky comments sometimes.
Chill out and go for a long walk.
Some folks just can’t stop themselves from being sarcastic- “if you have nothing nice to say - say nothing” per my very smart mom - God Bless her soul🌷

[coffeebean]

I'm not sure about that. The sidewalks on the store side are out of bounds, but the "square" may begin at the curb of the inside of the square. Probably does, since you may need to walk on the side walk there to bring a drink from the shack to your seat. In either case, I can't imagine the police enforcing that one.

That makes sense. We have never been stopped and I've seen many others stroll on the sidewalks bordering the squares with an adult beverage in hand.

[Mistymom]

I wish somebody would post a complete list of the subjects that are considered important enough to post about.
I agree that the "rules" should be laid out so that God forbid a resident asks a question or makes a minor complaint on The Talk of The Villages! I would hate to be a person receiving the snarky comments on this thread, and please don't tell me to "lighten up" because these comments hurt people's feelings.

[Joe V.]

I agree that the "rules" should be laid out so that God forbid a resident asks a question or makes a minor complaint on The Talk of The Villages! I would hate to be a person receiving the snarky comments on this thread, and please don't tell me to "lighten up" because these comments hurt people's feelings.

Well, the ToTV is a discussion board. 'Feelings' will get hurt. Nature of the game. It just is.. Need a thick skin to swim in these waters.

[Carla B]

I agree that the "rules" should be laid out so that God forbid a resident asks a question or makes a minor complaint on The Talk of The Villages! I would hate to be a person receiving the snarky comments on this thread, and please don't tell me to "lighten up" because these comments hurt people's feelings.

Agree. Comments like those discourage others from posting at all. Eventually, the snide commenters will have no one but themselves to disparage and no audience to listen.

[ddawson922]

I agree! I go to other places to buy drinks if they are cheaper than the shacks.

[coralway]

Seems like every day the daily newspaper has a story of a Villager being detained or arrested for drunken driving. So, people are drinking

[Dorebea]

I was at Brownwood eating at Blue Fin Saturday night. The square was crowded. The bar at Blue Fin was full and there was a wait for tables. I saw a few people going to that bar shack but not many. I’m under 60 and wondered who or why anyone would use that bar. I guess it might be a generation thing? Blue Fin has happy hour from 11-7 and 8-close daily.( unless that has changed)

For me the bar shack was a draw for the squares…. I liked the daily cocktail specials and getting two-for-one during happy hour was great! I miss that. Even outside of happy hour I thought their prices were reasonable - more so than the surrounding restaurants. Aside from attracting people to the squares, I think it also increased business at the restaurants and stores from the ‘happy people’. I’m hoping the beer / wine only is a temp post- covid thing and not a permanent change.

[npwalters]

I suspect the happy hour policy is here to stay. I am content with beer during the early evening so it suits me. When I do choose liquor over beer they are very generous in their double pour and its only $7.50 (double) for well drinks. Basically a happy camper with the bar huts.

[shortstack]

I have been going to the town squares for eleven years and still enjoy going , listening, people watching, and occasionally, dancing. We go generally once or twice a week when we are here and not feeling threatened by crowds because of Covid-19. I also enjoy having a mixed drink or two when at the squares. Happy hour is from 5-6 at all squares, but used to be from 5-7 at Spanish Springs. Recently I went to the squares for the first time in quite a while and went to a drink shack about five o’clock. I have for years gotten a double bourbon and seven for the price of a single. I was surprised to learn that the only drinks that are discounted during happy hour now are beer or wine. Now, on the scale of hyper important issues, this doesn’t move the needle, but it did give me pause. First, it appears to me that very few people are frequenting the drink shacks compared to earlier times. It also occurs to me that Harold Schwartz and Gary Morse created the more robust happy hours in order to thank residents and visitors for their patronage and incent them to enjoy the squares. They realized that their business was primarily selling homes and not making money on drinks. It seems that the current generation is more focused on making money on everything, including happy hour drinks. I think it may backfire on them if people simply don’t partake and they still have to pay the bartenders. Speaking of which, the bartenders can’t be making much in tips under the new rules. I am wondering if others have considered this an issue or am I alone?


I wonder who is making these decisions? It seems like little by little things are being taken away. Small things, and important to us. Off your topic, but adding. The Villages is growing by leaps and bounds and yet they have taken 2 of the 3 movie theaters away, WHY??? GREED!

[dewilson58]

When I do choose liquor over beer they are very generous in their double pour and its only $7.50 (double) for well drinks.

I remember a double Beefeater on the rocks for $7.50........that was a one & done cocktail and a passenger on the way home.

:a040:

[golfing eagles]

I wonder who is making these decisions? It seems like little by little things are being taken away. Small things, and important to us. Off your topic, but adding. The Villages is growing by leaps and bounds and yet they have taken 2 of the 3 movie theaters away, WHY??? GREED!

Please explain how closing movie theaters equates to greed.

PS: I'm not sure what the final verdict on the Rialto and the barnstorm theaters is going to be.

[dewilson58]

Please explain how closing movie theaters equates to greed. .

Grasshopper,

I've learned years ago not to reply to the Greed Posters.
Some where, some how they latched onto the Greed Wagon and won't let go.
GP's always show ignorance and jealousy.

Master Po

:ho:

[vintageogauge]

Anyone who has been here for 10-15 years or more will tell you The Villages is not what it once was. The younger generation of the family certainly does not have the vision that their father and grand father had. What it has turned into is just an area of suburban sprawl with a name. It’s not to say it’s not a place where you can’t have fun but it has lost the magic the founders created with their vision. It’s a business and it’s all about money. Nothing wrong with that, its just the way it is. We either accept it or we leave.

Come on down south, lot's of new magic going on down here and room for a bunch more.

[Dond1959]

If I ever read a post and it doesn’t have “greedy developer “ or “Gary Morse would never do that” I think I would drop dead on the spot. There are a million places to get a drink here, I think a better post may be where can I get the cheapest bourbon and seven?

[Dana1963]

I wonder who is making these decisions? It seems like little by little things are being taken away. Small things, and important to us. Off your topic, but adding. The Villages is growing by leaps and bounds and yet they have taken 2 of the 3 movie theaters away, WHY??? GREED!
You can fix them just don't go to the remaining one. By the way which one is currently open?

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

The poster who talked about people here 10 to 15 years and that the placer has lost its magic , well I’ve had a home here since 2000 I didn’t stay permanently but came and left, I’ve moved as the villages moved from Springdale to Fenney , 6 times , I can tell you that there was not much here back then compared with all the choices we have now . I know if this place hadn’t grown I certainly wouldn’t be living here in my 80’S I think the founders would be amazed and proud of what this place has become

[walterray1]

I have been going to the town squares for eleven years and still enjoy going , listening, people watching, and occasionally, dancing. We go generally once or twice a week when we are here and not feeling threatened by crowds because of Covid-19. I also enjoy having a mixed drink or two when at the squares. Happy hour is from 5-6 at all squares, but used to be from 5-7 at Spanish Springs. Recently I went to the squares for the first time in quite a while and went to a drink shack about five o’clock. I have for years gotten a double bourbon and seven for the price of a single. I was surprised to learn that the only drinks that are discounted during happy hour now are beer or wine. Now, on the scale of hyper important issues, this doesn’t move the needle, but it did give me pause. First, it appears to me that very few people are frequenting the drink shacks compared to earlier times. It also occurs to me that Harold Schwartz and Gary Morse created the more robust happy hours in order to thank residents and visitors for their patronage and incent them to enjoy the squares. They realized that their business was primarily selling homes and not making money on drinks. It seems that the current generation is more focused on making money on everything, including happy hour drinks. I think it may backfire on them if people simply don’t partake and they still have to pay the bartenders. Speaking of which, the bartenders can’t be making much in tips under the new rules. I am wondering if others have considered this an issue or am I alone?

Leave it to a post about booze prices to get over 100 responses. Interesting.

[coffeebean]

I wonder who is making these decisions? It seems like little by little things are being taken away. Small things, and important to us. Off your topic, but adding. The Villages is growing by leaps and bounds and yet they have taken 2 of the 3 movie theaters away, WHY??? GREED!

The Barnstorm Theater in Brownwood has been "taken away"? I know right now it is closed for movies but is that going to be permanent? That is our nicest theater in The Villages. Is the Rialto in Spanish Springs permanently shut down too? Have these closings been officially announced? Are there really going to be apartments where the Rialto Theater is currently? What have I been missing?

[golfing eagles]

The Barnstorm Theater in Brownwood has been "taken away"? I know right now it is closed for movies but is that going to be permanent? That is our nicest theater in The Villages. Is the Rialto in Spanish Springs permanently shut down too? Have these closings been officially announced? Are there really going to be apartments where the Rialto Theater is currently? What have I been missing?

Lots of unsubstantiated rumors?:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[thevillages2013]

What about a drink purchased from The Villages drink shack and sitting in the golf cart to enjoy the music? Hubby and I have did that to maintain a safe distance from others before we were vaccinated. Is that not allowed?
Apparently a drink in a parked golf cart is considered an open container so NO

[HoosierPa]

I have been going to the town squares for eleven years and still enjoy going , listening, people watching, and occasionally, dancing. We go generally once or twice a week when we are here and not feeling threatened by crowds because of Covid-19. I also enjoy having a mixed drink or two when at the squares. Happy hour is from 5-6 at all squares, but used to be from 5-7 at Spanish Springs. Recently I went to the squares for the first time in quite a while and went to a drink shack about five o’clock. I have for years gotten a double bourbon and seven for the price of a single. I was surprised to learn that the only drinks that are discounted during happy hour now are beer or wine. Now, on the scale of hyper important issues, this doesn’t move the needle, but it did give me pause. First, it appears to me that very few people are frequenting the drink shacks compared to earlier times. It also occurs to me that Harold Schwartz and Gary Morse created the more robust happy hours in order to thank residents and visitors for their patronage and incent them to enjoy the squares. They realized that their business was primarily selling homes and not making money on drinks. It seems that the current generation is more focused on making money on everything, including happy hour drinks. I think it may backfire on them if people simply don’t partake and they still have to pay the bartenders. Speaking of which, the bartenders can’t be making much in tips under the new rules. I am wondering if others have considered this an issue or am I alone?

A little less drinking would be a good thing ?

[Kgcetm]

Recouping their losses from last year's a bit like running a toll both. When do they catch up and do you think you'll ever know.

[BrianNotFromNYC]

That generally qualifies as the worst investment advice ever.

[dewilson58]

Leave it to a post about booze prices to get over 100 responses. Interesting.

Think that is interesting, look at the thread talking about nothing.
(cross-post)

[Neils]

The Villages are actually in its decline.
But many and those buying homes, including one who just bought my home, fo not realize it as yet!

Or maybe you are now in decline and no longer able to enjoy life????

[Driver8]

I know a couple of the bartenders at City Fire Brownwood and they told me they are doing quite well monetarily.

[Sabella]

Take a chill pill

[Bob.Betty]

at some point you need to take a break from the things in this world that you have very little (if any!) control over and relax

[Bilyclub]

Come on down south, lot's of new magic going on down here and room for a bunch more.

There was a now deleted thread on a different site by a man who was beefing that his 40 member golf group was not going to Edna's on Labor Day because they could not bring their own beverages. Apparently there is not enough magic.

[golfing eagles]

There was a now deleted thread on a different site by a man who was beefing that his 40 member golf group was not going to Edna's on Labor Day because they could not bring their own beverages. Apparently there is not enough magic.

Yes, and if you look up "cheapskates" in the dictionary, they have a picture of those 40 people:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[New Englander]

The Barnstorm Theater in Brownwood has been "taken away"? I know right now it is closed for movies but is that going to be permanent? That is our nicest theater in The Villages. Is the Rialto in Spanish Springs permanently shut down too? Have these closings been officially announced? Are there really going to be apartments where the Rialto Theater is currently? What have I been missing?

I sure hope not. I like that theater.

[eweissenbach]

I would,Ike to thank all the reasonable and helpful posters who pointed out that my original post was superfluous. It has also been helpful to learn that drinking less would be desirable and that there are other places to imbibe reasonably, if necessary. Also, despite the fact I thought I made it clear that my complaint was relatively unimportant, some helped remind me that my complaint was relatively unimportant. If not for the helpful posters here I would have gone on making these mistakes in my life - Thank you!

[Laker14]

I would,Ike to thank all the reasonable and helpful posters who pointed out that my original post was superfluous. It has also been helpful to learn that drinking less would be desirable and that there are other places to imbibe reasonably, if necessary. Also, despite the fact I thought I made it clear that my complaint was relatively unimportant, some helped remind me that my complaint was relatively unimportant. If not for the helpful posters here I would have gone on making these mistakes in my life - Thank you!


there is no shortage of life coaches on these boards.
Q:"How do I maintain my thin paver driveway?"
A: "you shouldn't have a thin paver driveway. They break"

Q: "Any recommendations on who to buy new batteries from for my electric golf cart?"
A: "You should have a gas powered golf cart."

[ANT33]

Yes, and if you look up "cheapskates" in the dictionary, they have a picture of those 40 people:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:


Exactly. Ednas is a food & beverage business with a beer & wine garden -it’s not a park. Bringing one’s own drink does not support their small business.

[Papa_lecki]

there is no shortage of life coaches on these boards.
Q:"How do I maintain my thin paver driveway?"
A: "you shouldn't have a thin paver driveway. They break"

Q: "Any recommendations on who to buy new batteries from for my electric golf cart?"
A: "You should have a gas powered golf cart."

Q: I want to put in a pool, who do you recommend?
A: Don’t waste you money on a pool, there’s one across the street.

Q: Who can I use to cut my grass?
A: I cut my own

[Stu from NYC]

I would,Ike to thank all the reasonable and helpful posters who pointed out that my original post was superfluous. It has also been helpful to learn that drinking less would be desirable and that there are other places to imbibe reasonably, if necessary. Also, despite the fact I thought I made it clear that my complaint was relatively unimportant, some helped remind me that my complaint was relatively unimportant. If not for the helpful posters here I would have gone on making these mistakes in my life - Thank you!

Very well said.

[Wyseguy]

It really bugs me when people compare world problems with everyday little things. The Villages changing the drinks cost can be discussed…..people are allow to think and talk about other things then the world crisis.
One thing has zero to do with the other……

I agree, it is Talk Of The Villages. There seems to be a degree of disrespect on line. If discussing the cost of drinks at the square is unimportant to you, move on to the next thread.

[dewilson58]

I would,Ike to thank all the reasonable and helpful posters who pointed out that my original post was superfluous. It has also been helpful to learn that drinking less would be desirable and that there are other places to imbibe reasonably, if necessary. Also, despite the fact I thought I made it clear that my complaint was relatively unimportant, some helped remind me that my complaint was relatively unimportant. If not for the helpful posters here I would have gone on making these mistakes in my life - Thank you!

Continue to enjoy the journey!!!!

:coolsmiley:

[Dana1963]

I have been going to the town squares for eleven years and still enjoy going , listening, people watching, and occasionally, dancing. We go generally once or twice a week when we are here and not feeling threatened by crowds because of Covid-19. I also enjoy having a mixed drink or two when at the squares. Happy hour is from 5-6 at all squares, but used to be from 5-7 at Spanish Springs. Recently I went to the squares for the first time in quite a while and went to a drink shack about five o’clock. I have for years gotten a double bourbon and seven for the price of a single. I was surprised to learn that the only drinks that are discounted during happy hour now are beer or wine. Now, on the scale of hyper important issues, this doesn’t move the needle, but it did give me pause. First, it appears to me that very few people are frequenting the drink shacks compared to earlier times. It also occurs to me that Harold Schwartz and Gary Morse created the more robust happy hours in order to thank residents and visitors for their patronage and incent them to enjoy the squares. They realized that their business was primarily selling homes and not making money on drinks. It seems that the current generation is more focused on making money on everything, including happy hour drinks. I think it may backfire on them if people simply don’t partake and they still have to pay the bartenders. Speaking of which, the bartenders can’t be making much in tips under the new rules. I am wondering if others have considered this an issue or am I alone?
Be CAREFUL drinking at Brownwood.
I think this might be the first?

Villager arrested after driving golf cart at 25 mph on Florida Turnpike

[Laker14]

Q: I want to put in a pool, who do you recommend?
A: Don’t waste you money on a pool, there’s one across the street.

Q: Who can I use to cut my grass?
A: I cut my own

now you're getting it!

[New Englander]

I would,Ike to thank all the reasonable and helpful posters who pointed out that my original post was superfluous. It has also been helpful to learn that drinking less would be desirable and that there are other places to imbibe reasonably, if necessary. Also, despite the fact I thought I made it clear that my complaint was relatively unimportant, some helped remind me that my complaint was relatively unimportant. If not for the helpful posters here I would have gone on making these mistakes in my life - Thank you!

This forum is about all things big or small about TV. When I read your post about the drinks on the square I thought it was fine. But I knew you would get snarky negativity about it. There are people here who only want to hear that everything in TV is just right. Sorry you and others go through this kind of thing.

[Ecuadog]

I would,Ike to thank all the reasonable and helpful posters who pointed out that my original post was superfluous. It has also been helpful to learn that drinking less would be desirable and that there are other places to imbibe reasonably, if necessary. Also, despite the fact I thought I made it clear that my complaint was relatively unimportant, some helped remind me that my complaint was relatively unimportant. If not for the helpful posters here I would have gone on making these mistakes in my life - Thank you!
Very well said.
Bingo.

[Stu from NYC]

Villager arrested after driving golf cart at 25 mph on Florida Turnpike

Was this uphill or downhill? Inquiring minds want to know.

[Mrprez]

Was this uphill or downhill? Inquiring minds want to know.

She was southbound. Made it to the service plaza!

[JMintzer]

Be CAREFUL drinking at Brownwood.
I think this might be the first?

Villager arrested after driving golf cart at 25 mph on Florida Turnpike

As he should be... Everyone knows they are limited to only 21 MPH!

[Garywt]

Well it’s your turn to buy then!:bigbow:

Are you trying to say next round is on me.

[Boomer]

I would,Ike to thank all the reasonable and helpful posters who pointed out that my original post was superfluous. It has also been helpful to learn that drinking less would be desirable and that there are other places to imbibe reasonably, if necessary. Also, despite the fact I thought I made it clear that my complaint was relatively unimportant, some helped remind me that my complaint was relatively unimportant. If not for the helpful posters here I would have gone on making these mistakes in my life - Thank you!


Hey Ed,

TOTV -- It Is a-Changin' -- and it has been for a while.

When I saw your original post, I thought that it was good to see one of those "Slice of Life in The Villages" discussions starting -- that could be interesting for some to follow and/or take part in by adding something to the discussion. You know, just a little something to look in on once in a while, nothing serious -- the kind of talk we used to have a lot of around here.

But -- noooooo -- right outa the gate, you came under attack -- and the stage was set, the circling began -- kind of like those nature shows on television -- where it looks like the director shouts, "Cue the hyenas! Circle up!"

Your post was mocked. You were lectured. The thread quickly devolved into a piling up of snark, including a bunch of those "thank you" things at the bottom of those snarky posts, indicating a shouting of, "Fight! Fight!"

You and I both have been around TOTV since its heyday. I know I have tuned in early, with coffee, on many mornings, and looked around to see if there was anything I wanted to "discuss." I got into the habit, years ago, of writing posts like some might do crossword puzzles or knit -- kind of a hobby. And I have enjoyed it. . .But we both know that TOTV has changed.

Anyway, Ed, thanks for trying to have a discussion of a little bit of life in TV.

It has been weird around here for a while. I would think I would catch on and realize TOTV is not going to change for the better. (sigh) And, too often, now, it does not start my day off like it used to.

I am working on not getting caught up in the negativity -- but I have been known to argue with the agenda-driven among us. Not looking at those threads helps. But darn, I do like a bit of discussion of TV sometimes and also about things that might interest our age-group -- about retirement life or books or movies or whatever. Mundane, ordinary, general interest topics are good to see around here -- but that's not the lay of the land much anymore.

Boomer

[jimkerr]

Just joined ToTV in July and sold your house already.
Thanks for staying connected to this declining place & educating the remaining 150,000 people.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::bigbow:

[John41]

I have been going to the town squares for eleven years and still enjoy going , listening, people watching, and occasionally, dancing. We go generally once or twice a week when we are here and not feeling threatened by crowds because of Covid-19. I also enjoy having a mixed drink or two when at the squares. Happy hour is from 5-6 at all squares, but used to be from 5-7 at Spanish Springs. Recently I went to the squares for the first time in quite a while and went to a drink shack about five o’clock. I have for years gotten a double bourbon and seven for the price of a single. I was surprised to learn that the only drinks that are discounted during happy hour now are beer or wine. Now, on the scale of hyper important issues, this doesn’t move the needle, but it did give me pause. First, it appears to me that very few people are frequenting the drink shacks compared to earlier times. It also occurs to me that Harold Schwartz and Gary Morse created the more robust happy hours in order to thank residents and visitors for their patronage and incent them to enjoy the squares. They realized that their business was primarily selling homes and not making money on drinks. It seems that the current generation is more focused on making money on everything, including happy hour drinks. I think it may backfire on them if people simply don’t partake and they still have to pay the bartenders. Speaking of which, the bartenders can’t be making much in tips under the new rules. I am wondering if others have considered this an issue or am I alone?

It’s part of a larger trend of offering less for more.

[golfing eagles]

Hey Ed,

TOTV -- It Is a-Changin' -- and it has been for a while.

When I saw your original post, I thought that it was good to see one of those "Slice of Life in The Villages" discussions starting -- that could be interesting for some to follow and/or take part in by adding something to the discussion. You know, just a little something to look in on once in a while, nothing serious -- the kind of talk we used to have a lot of around here.

But -- noooooo -- right outa the gate, you came under attack -- and the stage was set, the circling began -- kind of like those nature shows on television -- where it looks like the director shouts, "Cue the hyenas! Circle up!"

Your post was mocked. You were lectured. The thread quickly devolved into a piling up of snark, including a bunch of those "thank you" things at the bottom of those snarky posts, indicating a shouting of, "Fight! Fight!"

You and I both have been around TOTV since its heyday. I know I have tuned in early, with coffee, on many mornings, and looked around to see if there was anything I wanted to "discuss." I got into the habit, years ago, of writing posts like some might do crossword puzzles or knit -- kind of a hobby. And I have enjoyed it. . .But we both know that TOTV has changed.

Anyway, Ed, thanks for trying to have a discussion of a little bit of life in TV.

It has been weird around here for a while. I would think I would catch on and realize TOTV is not going to change for the better. (sigh) And, too often, now, it does not start my day off like it used to.

I am working on not getting caught up in the negativity -- but I have been known to argue with the agenda-driven among us. Not looking at those threads helps. But darn, I do like a bit of discussion of TV sometimes and also about things that might interest our age-group -- about retirement life or books or movies or whatever. Mundane, ordinary, general interest topics are good to see around here -- but that's not the lay of the land much anymore.

Boomer

Personal opinion------this site was much better way back when we met monthly at Crisper's