Jan 6 riot vs George Floyd riots vs 2017 Inauguration riot

[SkBlogW]

Real Clear Investigations did some research and produced a data chart compariong the riots. Interesting to see the contrasts in actual numbers compared to what the media deems important.

Screenshot of the data chart. see more at link below.

90746

https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2021/09/09/realclearinvestigations_jan_6-blm_comparison_database_791370.html

[Bucco]

Real Clear Investigations did some research and produced a data chart compariong the riots. Interesting to see the contrasts in actual numbers compared to what the media deems important.

Screenshot of the data chart. see more at link below.

90746

https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2021/09/09/realclearinvestigations_jan_6-blm_comparison_database_791370.html

I realize I am considered biased because I consider Jan 6 one of the most world wide embarrassing moments in our history, from the instigator to the ignoring of it since.

I also will not waste the time regaling you with all the misinformation contained in the charts beginning with the basic format.

I also object to the comparison in any way. The purpose of each event is vital.

Having said that, I winced and had a heavy heart during the Floyd demonstrations, and nobody should ever endorse such actions.

Hearing the testimony of the officers before Congress, the pep talks given by elected officials and the threats since, again by elected officials, if it does not give you pause, there is a problem. The comments by elected officials since and , the disregard even for the legal process is disgusting at best. I can only hope that the testimony and actual records to be given at the upcoming hearings extends to punishment fitting for an invasion of our nationals capitol.

[JMintzer]

The testimony of the officers during the 1/6 hearings was dubious at best...

Officers crying because they were called names? Claiming never to have been called those names before, when there are hours of video showing BLM and Antifa rioters spewing those very same racial slurs...

Hell, just look what happens any time there is video of an officer making an arrest in any urban area...

And, pray tell, who was this "instigator"?

And please, regale away...

[manaboutown]

A relatively peaceful demonstration (except for the incompetent out of control cop murdering an unarmed female veteran) compared to three months of domestic terrorism.

[stanley]

I realize I am considered biased because I consider Jan 6 one of the most world wide embarrassing moments in our history, from the instigator to the ignoring of it since.


You ain't seen nothing yet Bucco. Within the next three tears Sh-t is going to hit the fan, and it won't be pretty. Talk and preach all you want.................you aren't going to stop it............nobody can

[coffeebean]

The testimony of the officers during the 1/6 hearings was dubious at best...

Officers crying because they were called names? Claiming never to have been called those names before, when there are hours of video showing BLM and Antifa rioters spewing those very same racial slurs...

Hell, just look what happens any time there is video of an officer making an arrest in any urban area...

And, pray tell, who was this "instigator"?

And please, regale away...

You really need to ask that question?

[coffeebean]

A relatively peaceful demonstration (except for the incompetent out of control cop murdering an unarmed female veteran) compared to three months of domestic terrorism.

You CAN NOT be serious!

[stanley]

You really need to ask that question?

Yes.............what's your take?

[SkBlogW]

You CAN NOT be serious!

Police Officers Assaulted/Injured: Floyd = 2037 Jan 6 = 140

Arrests: Floyd = 16,241 Jan 6 = 570

Floyd = Invasions of Public Space + Defacement of property + explosions + shootings by rioters + arson + looting + vehicular crimes

Jan 6 = Invasions of Public Space + Defacement of property

Jan 8 = single event single location

Floyd = 8,700 events, 574 involving violent acts; 140+ cities

Jan 6 = $1.5 million actual propert damages + 30 million in support services, temporary fencing etc

Floyd = Between 1 and 2 BILLION DOLLARS in property damages

[Taltarzac725]

A violent mob was pointed at the US Capitol Building with the motive of stopping the count of a legitimate vote. That is extremely serious no matter who did it.

[stanley]

If you speak of the plan on 9/18, that “could” be violent, but think the worst is yet to come.

Frankly, my personal view of my country and the entire situation is this......

I am saddened that so many on your side of the aisle have completely shut down on the United States. No longer are discussions had, but the leadership is nothing but threats. To the Jan 6 event, past present has publicly threatened capitol police .......and all comments from that side are about violence. Of some kind.

Perhaps if those hearings have the goods.....there will be very serious jail time.....lying to Congress, etc. then knowing the mentality of these people, we can count on violence in the streets.

Been festering for a couple years, and rumors...rumors show past president has been planning to somehow get his “army” in the streets. This is something he has advocated for years and years well before his term.

But, I will not be surprised if he has his minions finallly declare “war” on his own country (as in the South American countries)....

Threats from a GOP governor today inviting folks to take it to the streets about the vaccinations. Words from that side are always advocating violence, and I agree with you. There seems to be no way to stop it.

First time I posted this stuff, but still know folks who are “the know” and they are greatly concerned about the avalanche of violent threats from that side.

I pray to God, nothing happens , but all signs are bad.

He may get his wish to have his folks in the streets. Sort of sad when thinking about 9/11, and realizing how close we are to consuming ourselves.

No one is going to stop anything. It has NOTHING, I REPEAT...NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PERSON YOU THINK IT DOES! America....real Americans are fed up! It's too late.

[SkBlogW]

A violent mob was pointed at the US Capitol Building with the motive of stopping the count of a legitimate vote. That is extremely serious no matter who did it.

100s of violent mobs were pointed at State Capitols, court houses. police stations and private businesses because a drug addict resisted arrest. That is extremely serious no matter who did it.

[SkBlogW]

I realize I am considered biased because I consider Jan 6 one of the most world wide embarrassing moments in our history, from the instigator to the ignoring of it since.

In contrast, millions of tourist flocked to our country to take part in the "peaceful " Floyd riots and learn how to throw Molotov cocktails. It was a huge boon to the tourism industry.

[Taltarzac725]

The various George Floyd riots were a chaotic mess involving a lot of people driven by thousands of different motives. The January 6 attempt to subvert a national election was driven by the hatred of the US system of government of a very small group of people. Mainly because the vote had not gone their way and they were losing their position of often unchecked abuse of power.

[jbartle1]

Some comments are sickening, I can't watch 1/6 clips without sadness for my country, how could this happen in the United States of America. I hope the commission throws the culprit in jail for a long long time.

[Kelevision]

I realize I am considered biased because I consider Jan 6 one of the most world wide embarrassing moments in our history, from the instigator to the ignoring of it since.

I also will not waste the time regaling you with all the misinformation contained in the charts beginning with the basic format.

I also object to the comparison in any way. The purpose of each event is vital.

Having said that, I winced and had a heavy heart during the Floyd demonstrations, and nobody should ever endorse such actions.

Hearing the testimony of the officers before Congress, the pep talks given by elected officials and the threats since, again by elected officials, if it does not give you pause, there is a problem. The comments by elected officials since and , the disregard even for the legal process is disgusting at best. I can only hope that the testimony and actual records to be given at the upcoming hearings extends to punishment fitting for an invasion of our nationals capitol.

I agree! If only we had a vaccine for foxitis. Also, read a headline this morning…. 20 years after 9/11, the US is at war with itself….. now that’s sad. :sad:

[Billy1]

I need someone to identify the real Americans for me.

[Girlcopper]

A relatively peaceful demonstration (except for the incompetent out of control cop murdering an unarmed female veteran) compared to three months of domestic terrorism.
What?? Are you serious?. Peaceful?? I cant even find any further words to respond

[golfing eagles]

Some comments are sickening, I can't watch 1/6 clips without sadness for my country, how could this happen in the United States of America. I hope the commission throws the culprit in jail for a long long time.

I hope they do too, Jan 6 was inexcusable. BUT FIRST, lets go back and throw all the "culprits" in jail from LA, Ferguson, Baltimore, Atlanta and Minneapolis

[Andyb]

Those arrested with the GF riots have all been released, those arrested January 16, still in solitary confinement jails, no bail.

[Sheltie-Lover]

I believe it is TIME TO TAKE DOWN THIS THREAD.

[jswirs]

I realize I am considered biased because I consider Jan 6 one of the most world wide embarrassing moments in our history, from the instigator to the ignoring of it since.

I also will not waste the time regaling you with all the misinformation contained in the charts beginning with the basic format.

I also object to the comparison in any way. The purpose of each event is vital.

Having said that, I winced and had a heavy heart during the Floyd demonstrations, and nobody should ever endorse such actions.

Hearing the testimony of the officers before Congress, the pep talks given by elected officials and the threats since, again by elected officials, if it does not give you pause, there is a problem. The comments by elected officials since and , the disregard even for the legal process is disgusting at best. I can only hope that the testimony and actual records to be given at the upcoming hearings extends to punishment fitting for an invasion of our nationals capitol.

The above underlined quote falls far short of what just occurred in Afghanistan.

[thevillages2013]

A violent mob was pointed at the US Capitol Building with the motive of stopping the count of a legitimate vote. That is extremely serious no matter who did it.
I think you misspelled illegitimate

[rustyp]

Real Clear Investigations did some research and produced a data chart compariong the riots. Interesting to see the contrasts in actual numbers compared to what the media deems important.

Screenshot of the data chart. see more at link below.

90746

https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2021/09/09/realclearinvestigations_jan_6-blm_comparison_database_791370.html

Are you implying the criteria is if someone else broke the law but didn't get incarcerated it is OK to break the law. With that logic shouldn't we release the majority sitting in jail cells today ?

Did you miss the day Mommy gave the "if Johnny jumps off the bridge" lesson ?

[Bay Kid]

We have become a 3rd world country. Protest, riots, burning, destruction of public/private property and murder.
So darn sad.

[jdulej]

Wow, there are some crazy, scary people on this topic. Knowing that the Villages has more guns per household than you'd find in South Chicago doesn't help me sleep any better.

That said, I'll throw my worthless 2 cents in after all the others I've read here.

This is what I think happened - The person we will not name and his/her minions planned the riots and assault on the Capitol, but they fully expected the DC police to repel the rioters, beating up a few in front of the cameras and if they were real lucky a few would get killed. This would have made for great optics - poor "protesters", trying to defend the Constitution, slaughtered by the only lefty cops in the US - DC cops.
Unfortunately, they underestimated the incompetence of the DC police (managers and planners, not the front liners) and the whole effort went south when the Capital was breached. That flipped the optics (which was always the only thing that mattered to he/she who will not be named).

[rlcooper70]

The George Floyd riots were a cry of frustration. The Jan6th riot was a call to overthrow the election system. Very different animals.

[Nannyof3]

extremely well said, thank you

[Lindaws]

Exactly

[maggie1]

Those arrested with the GF riots have all been released, those arrested January 16, still in solitary confinement jails, no bail.

I'd be eager to see your source of information to lend credence to your claim. From what I've read through various internet links, the number of arrests in the George Floyd riots number between 11, 000 and 14,000. Now, please provide where you received the information that all 11,000 to 14,000 have been released from custody.:popcorn:

[suepete06]

Are you kidding?? Peaceful demonstrations?? What were you watching?

[DaleDivine]

I believe it is TIME TO TAKE DOWN THIS THREAD.

:popcorn::popcorn::blahblahblah::boom:

[suepete06]

You are so right!

[holger danske]

I'm thinking that with a question like that you are probably one of the unvaccinated because you've heard of rumors about it changing your RNA, or containing a microchip. How's that horse parasite medicine working for ya?

This is a toxic place. Whatever happened to the "USERS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DIRECT COMMENTS TOWARD ANOTHER USER." rule? Selective enforcement? Asking for friend.

[Bucco]

No one is going to stop anything. It has NOTHING, I REPEAT...NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PERSON YOU THINK IT DOES! America....real Americans are fed up! It's too late.

Except for your inability to realize who led this attack, the anti United States Government movement you describe is real.

I have mentioned it relative to the anti vaccine movement, the Afghanistan agreement and release of leaders in advance then turning on our country for honoring such an agreement, the imergence of and seemingly love for Qanon and it’s followers firmly implanted as elected officials, etc. etc.

I think those you describe as fed up and instigating this anti United States movement will find, if they are successful in bringing the country down, will find they lived in a wonderful country.

Remember Steve Brannon sayin. “We want to tear this country down, etc”. Remember the theory about Wuhan and Bannon involvement....remember even GOP could not tolerate him inside WH , and remember the chief adviser to our ex Pres was Steve Bannon.

Your being proud of supporting anti United States Government with violence is symptomatic of sickness.

Most of us will spend 9/11 remembering.. I imagine you will be attending that boxing match instead,

[MandoMan]

Real Clear Investigations did some research and produced a data chart compariong the riots. Interesting to see the contrasts in actual numbers compared to what the media deems important.

Screenshot of the data chart. see more at link below.

90746

https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2021/09/09/realclearinvestigations_jan_6-blm_comparison_database_791370.html

Arson, looting, and assault (including throwing things at the police) are illegal and should be punished to the full extent of the law, including long prison terms. They haven’t been, but they should be. The right to peaceful protest is guaranteed by the Constitution, but when the participants are shouting and screaming in rage and hatred, in my estimation that protest is no longer peaceful, but a riot, and so no longer legal, and it should result in dispersal, mass arrests, and at the least heavy fines. People in a mob assaulting police officers are accomplices even if they themselves aren’t throwing things, urging on the attackers and increasing their determination. I’d like those in those violent crowds who were only accomplices to be charged with felonies.

On the other hand, when a mob forces its way into the U.S. Capitol past security, through locked doors, through windows, with the intent of subverting the Constitution of the United States and overthrowing our government and harming elected legislators, that is an insurrection and should be punished with the maximum penalty the Constitution allows for insurrection, which is capital punishment. Maybe not for everyone, but for some, with at the least the maximum penalties for illegal trespass, accomplice to assault on a law-enforcement officer, accomplice to attempted kidnapping and attempted murder of federal legislators, rioting, and more. Those who stayed outside,Bletchley them go.

The crimes are different, so the punishments should be different, but in both cases the punishments should be heavy. They haven’t been.

[Marine1974]

I realize I am considered biased because I consider Jan 6 one of the most world wide embarrassing moments in our history, from the instigator to the ignoring of it since.

I also will not waste the time regaling you with all the misinformation contained in the charts beginning with the basic format.

I also object to the comparison in any way. The purpose of each event is vital.

Having said that, I winced and had a heavy heart during the Floyd demonstrations, and nobody should ever endorse such actions.

Hearing the testimony of the officers before Congress, the pep talks given by elected officials and the threats since, again by elected officials, if it does not give you pause, there is a problem. The comments by elected officials since and , the disregard even for the legal process is disgusting at best. I can only hope that the testimony and actual records to be given at the upcoming hearings extends to punishment fitting for an invasion of our nationals capitol.
Do you think the people in our government who were responsible for presenting false evidence to a FISA court in order to spy on an American 🇺🇸 citizen running for President make your blood boil because nobody went to jail ?

[Marine1974]

I realize I am considered biased because I consider Jan 6 one of the most world wide embarrassing moments in our history, from the instigator to the ignoring of it since.

I also will not waste the time regaling you with all the misinformation contained in the charts beginning with the basic format.

I also object to the comparison in any way. The purpose of each event is vital.

Having said that, I winced and had a heavy heart during the Floyd demonstrations, and nobody should ever endorse such actions.

Hearing the testimony of the officers before Congress, the pep talks given by elected officials and the threats since, again by elected officials, if it does not give you pause, there is a problem. The comments by elected officials since and , the disregard even for the legal process is disgusting at best. I can only hope that the testimony and actual records to be given at the upcoming hearings extends to punishment fitting for an invasion of our nationals capitol.
I consider the false evidence presented to a FISA court to be just as embarrassing for our country . They actually used the false evidence to spy on an American 🇺🇸 running for President and nobody went to jail , this was overlooked by our justice system.

[Bucco]

Do you think the people in our government who were responsible for presenting false evidence to a FISA court in order to spy on an American ������������ citizen running for President make your blood boil because nobody went to jail ?

I think anyone who violates the law is a criminal. I believe anyone who lies in court, or before Congress is a criminal...those who lie before congress deserve serious jail time.

I also think that those who advocate the overthrow of the United States Government should receive the maximum punishment allowed.

I believe that elected officials who do anything criminally that is anti US government should have special more severe punishment, and leading folks to insurrection based on untruths and falsehoods deserve a special treatment

Wondering how you feel about all the proven criminal activity in that campaign. Never anything close to that in history.

[Bsturner]

Jan 6 riot vs George Floyd riots vs 2017 Inauguration riot

To compare domestic terrorism and the attempted over throw of our government to miscreants acting out during protests of our police murdering a citizen in the street, and the fact that you can’t see the difference, is what’s wrong with our country today. When did the hate of fellow Americans become patriotism?

[stanley]

Except for your inability to realize who led this attack, the anti United States Government movement you describe is real.

I have mentioned it relative to the anti vaccine movement, the Afghanistan agreement and release of leaders in advance then turning on our country for honoring such an agreement, the imergence of and seemingly love for Qanon and it’s followers firmly implanted as elected officials, etc. etc.

I think those you describe as fed up and instigating this anti United States movement will find, if they are successful in bringing the country down, will find they lived in a wonderful country.

Remember Steve Brannon sayin. “We want to tear this country down, etc”. Remember the theory about Wuhan and Bannon involvement....remember even GOP could not tolerate him inside WH , and remember the chief adviser to our ex Pres was Steve Bannon.

Your being proud of supporting anti United States Government with violence is symptomatic of sickness.

Most of us will spend 9/11 remembering.. I imagine you will be attending that boxing match instead,

Because of this solemn day I will refrain from Idle and senseless chit chat with you.

[Bucco]

Jan 6 riot vs George Floyd riots vs 2017 Inauguration riot

To compare domestic terrorism and the attempted over throw of our government to miscreants acting out during protests of our police murdering a citizen in the street, and the fact that you can’t see the difference, is what’s wrong with our country today. When did the hate of fellow Americans become patriotism?

You nailed it...and these people feel like they can wave the flag and actually destroy its meaning at the same time. If had the time would list all the convicted or plea deals of folks who elected....those same who were actually part of our government until convicted.

Why Americans have turned on their own country is odd, however, the architects mentioned on here, have discussed it publicly for many years. Yet, supposed Americans stand and defend such people.

[SkBlogW]

I think anyone who violates the law is a criminal. I believe anyone who lies in court, or before Congress is a criminal...those who lie before congress deserve serious jail time.

I also think that those who advocate the overthrow of the United States Government should receive the maximum punishment allowed.

I believe that elected officials who do anything criminally that is anti US government should have special more severe punishment, and leading folks to insurrection based on untruths and falsehoods deserve a special treatment

Wondering how you feel about all the proven criminal activity in that campaign. Never anything close to that in history.


The FBI has found little evidence that the Jan. 6 Capitol riot was a coordinated plot to reinstall Donald Trump as president, according to a report, potentially putting to rest months of speculation that far-right militias and white nationalist groups had prepared an organized assault on the nation's capital.

According to Reuters, which interviewed four unnamed FBI officials familiar with the agency's probe into the insurrection, there is scant evidence to suggest that far-right groups, Donald Trump, or any of the former president's allies colluded to incite the unrest.

FBI finds little evidence Jan. 6 insurrection was organized attack: report | Salon.com (https://www.salon.com/2021/08/20/fbi-finds-little-evidence-jan-6-insurrection-was-organized-attack-report/)

[Jacob85]

I agree. Even putting them in the same category is absurd. Some opportunists and criminals took advantage of the protest to steal and vandalize. January 6 was entirely different! A group of thugs and people I never knew existed in our country decided to attack our capital and our government because they didn’t get what they wanted. It was scary to know these people are among us!

[SkBlogW]

Jan 6 riot vs George Floyd riots vs 2017 Inauguration riot

To compare domestic terrorism and the attempted over throw of our government to miscreants acting out during protests of our police murdering a citizen in the street, and the fact that you can’t see the difference, is what’s wrong with our country today. When did the hate of fellow Americans become patriotism?

The FBI has found little evidence that the Jan. 6 Capitol riot was a coordinated plot to reinstall Donald Trump as president, according to a report, potentially putting to rest months of speculation that far-right militias and white nationalist groups had prepared an organized assault on the nation's capital.

According to Reuters, which interviewed four unnamed FBI officials familiar with the agency's probe into the insurrection, there is scant evidence to suggest that far-right groups, Donald Trump, or any of the former president's allies colluded to incite the unrest.

FBI finds little evidence Jan. 6 insurrection was organized attack: report | Salon.com

[BoatRatKat]

God Help Us, Amen.

[capecoralbill]

I am so thankful to god for taking Rush Limbaugh.

[manaboutown]

A violent mob was pointed at the US Capitol Building with the motive of stopping the count of a legitimate vote. That is extremely serious no matter who did it.

Violent mob my a$$! The only violence of any significance occurred when a Capitol Hill thug, er I mean cop, murdered an unarmed woman.

In case you were asleep or on another planet all summer long extremely violent mobs were in major cities all over the country, robbing murdering, raping, burglarizing, and committing arson and many other felonies all summer long.

[PugMom]

A relatively peaceful demonstration (except for the incompetent out of control cop murdering an unarmed female veteran) compared to three months of domestic terrorism.

:bigbow:

[SkBlogW]

January 6 select committee refutes claim by McCarthy that the Justice Department cleared Trump of any role in insurrection - CNNPolitics (https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/04/politics/mccarthy-trump-select-committee-justice-department/index.html)

Do some more Googling.

LOL So the witch hunt committee denies the report while profering zero evidence.

This is just like the russian collusion witch hunt. There's no "there" there. Some people never learn and keep swallowing the garbage the media puts out.

[Taltarzac725]

Capitol Violence — FBI (https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/capitol-violence)

Lots of these people have been charged and some convicted of these violent crimes at the US Capitol Building on January 6, 2021.

Capitol Breach Cases | USAO-DC | Department of Justice (https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases)

[PugMom]

I hope they do too, Jan 6 was inexcusable. BUT FIRST, lets go back and throw all the "culprits" in jail from LA, Ferguson, Baltimore, Atlanta and Minneapolis

thank you for the fair outlook. violence is wrong, no matter who does it. the mystery is how thousands of people can congregate for over a year or more with NO ISSUES, then ONE singular event manipulated by outside forces condemns an entire group over an 'insurrection,' for lack of a better word. some blind eyes still remain shut.

[Johnson072702]

The culprit were the Capital Police who started the riot. Look for all the videos not just the ones from MSM. They tell a different story, this was a very sad thing because the people behind it are government workers.

[PugMom]

very good post, we have all sides presented. maybe moderator will make decision as to keep thread up. i am a firm believer in expressing yourself WITH RESPECT to others-it can be done without name calling or malice.

[OhioBuckeye]

I realize I am considered biased because I consider Jan 6 one of the most world wide embarrassing moments in our history, from the instigator to the ignoring of it since.

I also will not waste the time regaling you with all the misinformation contained in the charts beginning with the basic format.

I also object to the comparison in any way. The purpose of each event is vital.

Having said that, I winced and had a heavy heart during the Floyd demonstrations, and nobody should ever endorse such actions.

Hearing the testimony of the officers before Congress, the pep talks given by elected officials and the threats since, again by elected officials, if it does not give you pause, there is a problem. The comments by elected officials since and , the disregard even for the legal process is disgusting at best. I can only hope that the testimony and actual records to be given at the upcoming hearings extends to punishment fitting for an invasion of our nationals capitol.

Dido’s to this!

[PugMom]

my point exactly! who is telling the truth??

[manaboutown]

I am so thankful to god for taking Rush Limbaugh.

Rush is in Heaven for sure. He was a great American Patriot. My he rest in peace.

[jdulej]

Rush is in Heaven for sure. He was a great American Patriot. My he rest in peace.

Drug addict who threw his housekeeper under the bus. I don't care about his politics, but that's unforgivable and gets you sent to the wrong part of the afterlife.

[slg0921]

"On the other hand, when a mob forces its way into the U.S. Capitol past security, through locked doors, through windows, with the intent of subverting the Constitution of the United States and overthrowing our government and harming elected legislators, that is an insurrection and should be punished with the maximum penalty the Constitution allows for insurrection, which is capital punishment."

I believe you're confusing insurrection with treason, which is the only crime specifically called out in the Constitution. Per 18 U.S. Code sub-section 2383:

Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

[New Englander]

I am a Republican, and I was horrified, disgusted and sickened watching the Capital Riot.

[justjim]

God Help Us, Amen.

Amen and amen…. Fortunately only a small vocal minority believes any of these conspiracy theories has merit or reality. Social media and 24 hour cable news is a blessing and a curse at the same time. I personally have found it important to know when to quit arguing with people and just let them be wrong. No matter how right you think you are, occasionally you should look at the results…. So many in The Villages have lost many months of enjoying their retirement years by being caught up and obsessed with ideas of others and attempting to live someone else’s life instead of enjoying their own. Just my humble opinion.

[golfing eagles]

Wow, there are some crazy, scary people on this topic. Knowing that the Villages has more guns per household than you'd find in South Chicago doesn't help me sleep any better.

That said, I'll throw my worthless 2 cents in after all the others I've read here.

This is what I think happened - The person we will not name and his/her minions planned the riots and assault on the Capitol, but they fully expected the DC police to repel the rioters, beating up a few in front of the cameras and if they were real lucky a few would get killed. This would have made for great optics - poor "protesters", trying to defend the Constitution, slaughtered by the only lefty cops in the US - DC cops.
Unfortunately, they underestimated the incompetence of the DC police (managers and planners, not the front liners) and the whole effort went south when the Capital was breached. That flipped the optics (which was always the only thing that mattered to he/she who will not be named).

Wow! Did you come up with that theory all on your own or did you consult the gurus wearing the tin foil hats?????

[golfing eagles]

The George Floyd riots were a cry of frustration. The Jan6th riot was a call to overthrow the election system. Very different animals.

Is that the new excuse now----"frustration"???? Pretty lame.

[Bsturner]

Being coordinated or not is not the issue. What they ultimately attempted to do is a fact. Nevertheless someone requested permits, raised money, organized the event, scheduled the speakers and advertised that debacle. This was not a random insurrection.

[Don Ferguson]

Being coordinated or not is not the issue. What they ultimately attempted to do is a fact. Nevertheless someone requested permits, raised money, organized the event, scheduled the speakers and advertised that debacle. This was not a random insurrection.

You state "What they attempted to do is a fact." AND "This was not a random insurrection." We disagree completely on both counts.

First, What they attempted to do is exactly what they did! They raised hell, protested and made fools of themselves. Pretty much what every protest has done in the history of our country. We may definitely disagree on what they were protesting about, but what they DID NOT DO was attempt any kind of insurrection! Not one legislator was even minimally attacked, although a lot of drama queens stated they feared for their lives. Some protesting fools cavorted for the security cameras, wrongly took souvenirs and did other things for which they should be punished. They protested the certification of votes in four of our states, but it is laughable to call what those folks did an "insurrection."

[Taltarzac725]

Insurrection Fallout: Latest News, Top Stories & Analysis - POLITICO (https://www.politico.com/news/insurrection-fallout)

That is exactly what it was-- an insurrection.

[coffeebean]

Yes.............what's your take?
I do not want to go down that road. I will wind up in the naughty room.

[coffeebean]

Police Officers Assaulted/Injured: Floyd = 2037 Jan 6 = 140

Arrests: Floyd = 16,241 Jan 6 = 570

Floyd = Invasions of Public Space + Defacement of property + explosions + shootings by rioters + arson + looting + vehicular crimes

Jan 6 = Invasions of Public Space + Defacement of property

Jan 8 = single event single location

Floyd = 8,700 events, 574 involving violent acts; 140+ cities

Jan 6 = $1.5 million actual propert damages + 30 million in support services, temporary fencing etc

Floyd = Between 1 and 2 BILLION DOLLARS in property damages

EXACTLY! How anyone could state that the events at the Capitol on January 6th was "a relatively peaceful demonstration" is beyond my comprehension. SMDH.

[JSR22]

So who cares how a private citizen (even a former president) spends 9/11? I'm afraid he lives rent free in your head. The present resident of the WH is not making any public appearances by the way, choosing instead to send out a video from his Delaware basement.

Who cares? For myself I'll reflect on my remembrances of visiting Ground Zero- the feel of the cement/asbestos dust on my fingers, the twisted steel, the smells, the eerie silence across lower Manhattan. I'll be spending my day visiting a church in NY where the kids planted some 2700 flags on the church grounds and thinking about the 40 some odd people I once knew. Weather up here is very similar to what it was 20 years ago. Enjoy your day Bucco.

Joe Biden has made public appearances at the 3 crash sites on 9/11. That he is in his basement is false.

[joelfmi]

More than half of the country does not believe what you have written and when this is all over the truth will come out. Remember those who live near a water fall never hear its roar.

[coffeebean]

The only hate I see is your comment

PLEASE use the QUOTE feature on this forum to address your comment to a specific person. I have no idea who you directed this comment to.

[coffeebean]

i think you misspelled illegitimate

rotflmao!

[coffeebean]

extremely well said, thank you

PLEASE quote the person you replied to. WHAT is extremely well said? I have no idea if you do not quote the person who said it.

[kenoc7]

Real Clear Investigations did some research and produced a data chart compariong the riots. Interesting to see the contrasts in actual numbers compared to what the media deems important.

Screenshot of the data chart. see more at link below.

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https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2021/09/09/realclearinvestigations_jan_6-blm_comparison_database_791370.html
Such foolish comparisons - only one was an attack on the seat of government in an attempt to overthrow the results of a full and fair election. Why do people come up with this rubbish?

[kenoc7]

A relatively peaceful demonstration (except for the incompetent out of control cop murdering an unarmed female veteran) compared to three months of domestic terrorism.
This is the most absurd and untrue post I have ever seen here and that is quite something for this incredibly biased forum. Just watch the video - it was not a relatively peaceful protest - it was a violent insurrection.

[Bucco]

This is the most absurd and untrue post I have ever seen here and that is quite something for this incredibly biased forum. Just watch the video - it was not a relatively peaceful protest - it was a violent insurrection.

I am beginning to suspect the email addresses of most of these folks is not in our country.

All proud members of the Anti United States Government group

[holger danske]

In actuality, all of the past living Presidents were in New York, except Carter (health) and G Bush who was in Shanksville. Remembering and honoring. ALL but one.

Former President Trump — absent from the 20th anniversary 9/11 ceremony in his own city.

You evidently are part of the anti United States group.

Sorry, i should have said speeches. His handlers wouldn't let him talk.

[Bill14564]

I know some refer to The Villages as an adult Disneyland but reading some of these makes it seem like we only have Fantasyland.

[Bill14564]

Yes it was patriots standing up for America and it was peaceful until the speaker of the house ordered shots fired at the protesters.

Please admit this is just trolling and you don't actually believe any part of that.

[Bucco]

I know some refer to The Villages as an adult Disneyland but reading some of these makes it seem like we only have Fantasyland.

All this kind of stuff does is anger me at myself mostly.

But you make a valid point. Would it not be more posts discussing actual policies than the fantasies that are spread and believed and then repeated as fact.

Not sure sometimes if many on here actually know what’s going on or understand it until they hear someone being accused of something based on nothing and presented as if we should believe them.

I get angry, then I actually feel sorry for them and my country.

[Bucco]

Please admit this is just trolling and you don't actually believe any part of that.

But he does. But he is card carrying member of the anti United United States group.

[Boomer]

This thread is making my skin crawl.

I know what I witnessed on that hellish day. . .

This one is beyond differences of opinion.

This one happened right in front of us.

I will never buy into those false equivalencies — so tragically, easily pushed onto the gullible — or onto the just plain hateful who are so blinded that they are unable to think for themselves anymore and cannot separate out what actually happened on that day.

This one is different. Those who are buying in to the false equivalencies, please stop and think and make sure you were not kept out of seeing what the country and the world saw. Thank God they were called back in to vote to rescue our democracy. Well, maybe not exactly rescued — but at least propped up — for now. . . (shudder)

Boomer

[Two Bills]

This whole thread is beyond sad, it is appalling!
How the Mods. have allowed it to continue is beyond me.
I have had my posterior slapped for mentioning an elected persons name, and yet this vitriol has been allowed to flow uninterrupted.
Left, right or Moderator, you should be ashamed.
Gone!