Gabby Petito Case

[retiredguy123]

Gabby Petito is all over the news because she is missing and her fiance refuses to say anything about where she may be. Obviously, if he committed a crime, the fiance has the legal right to not reveal anything that would result in his arrest and prosecution. He is following his lawyer's advice. The media and others are putting immense pressure on the fiance with unrelenting coverage of him. I suspect that he cannot even safely leave his house. I'm conflicted about this. If he is just exercising his legal rights, does the media have the right to effectively ruin his life? Should the law be changed? What do you think?

[graciegirl]

Gabby Petito is all over the news because she is missing and her fiance refuses to say anything about where she may be. Obviously, if he committed a crime, the fiance has the legal right to not reveal anything that would result in his arrest and prosecution. He is following his lawyer's advice. The media and others are putting immense pressure on the fiance with unrelenting coverage of him. I suspect that he cannot even safely leave his house. I'm conflicted about this. If he is just exercising his legal rights, does the media have the right to effectively ruin his life? Should the law be changed? What do you think?

It is a good thing I do not hold a position of authority, because I think he hurt her or killed her.

They have also looked into a newly wed couple who were gay who were killed at the same time. I don't remember clearly the connection, but I think I read that someone saw them arguing near where those bodies were discovered.

I really try not to do that...type things I am not sure of, but it stuck in my mind as that.

I think I also remember he was home a week without reporting her missing. I am really believing he harmed her. I wish I knew what his mindset is on homosexuality....or hers.

I have a lot of time right now to read stuff like this. I am waiting to return full blast to groups until this wave of Covid calms down. I know of a total of eight people, all Villagers who have had the break through sickness and some were REALLY sick with it.

[manaboutown]

IMHO his actions are shameful and indicative he has something to hide.

[MrFlorida]

Hopefully they are not doing this for free publicity for their blog.... I can't imagine he would do that to his fiancée

[Toymeister]

It does not hurt that the victim is young, female and attractive.

If it was a bald overweight male, the type who drives a golf car with knee hanging out, there would be zero coverage.

[John Mayes]

It does not hurt that the victim is young, female and attractive.

If it was a bald overweight male, the type who drives a golf car with knee hanging out, there would be zero coverage.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not laughing at the situation about the missing woman but what you said is funny.

[Malsua]

If it was a bald overweight male, the type who drives a golf car with knee hanging out, there would be zero coverage.

No milk cartons for me. :(

I think the problem here is this young woman was in a bad relationship and tried to fix it by going on this journey with that guy. She probably needed friends telling her to dump that dude.

[Two Bills]

Hope FBI are reading this thread.
TOTV will have this case solved inside another 20+ posts!

[John Mayes]

Hope FBI are reading this thread.
TOTV will have this case solved inside another 20+ posts!

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[BillY41]

The police are actively investigating and the fiance is a 'person of interest.' Getting a lawyer makes him more interesting almost a suspect. Time will tell.

[drducat]

The police are actively investigating and the fiance is a 'person of interest.' Getting a lawyer makes him more interesting almost a suspect. Time will tell.

Bad feeling that she walked away and he could not find her...so he just left her roaming....went home and now has been gone since last Tues.

[golfing eagles]

Gabby Petito is all over the news because she is missing and her fiance refuses to say anything about where she may be. Obviously, if he committed a crime, the fiance has the legal right to not reveal anything that would result in his arrest and prosecution. He is following his lawyer's advice. The media and others are putting immense pressure on the fiance with unrelenting coverage of him. I suspect that he cannot even safely leave his house. I'm conflicted about this. If he is just exercising his legal rights, does the media have the right to effectively ruin his life? Should the law be changed? What do you think?

Can anyone say "Lacey Petersen"?????

[Ele201]

Just responding to your last paragraph. Sorry to hear of your friends getting sick. I’m just wondering, were they vaccinated? Thanks It is a good thing I do not hold a position of authority, because I think he hurt her or killed her.

They have also looked into a newly wed couple who were gay who were killed at the same time. I don't remember clearly the connection, but I think I read that someone saw them arguing near where those bodies were discovered.

I really try not to do that...type things I am not sure of, but it stuck in my mind as that.

I think I also remember he was home a week without reporting her missing. I am really believing he harmed her. I wish I knew what his mindset is on homosexuality....or hers.

I have a lot of time right now to read stuff like this. I am waiting to return full blast to groups until this wave of Covid calms down. I know of a total of eight people, all Villagers who have had the break through sickness and some were REALLY sick with it.

[thevillages2013]

Just responding to your last paragraph. Sorry to hear of your friends getting sick. I’m just wondering, were they vaccinated? Thanks
Uh , that’s what breakthrough means

[Eg_cruz]

Just responding to your last paragraph. Sorry to hear of your friends getting sick. I’m just wondering, were they vaccinated? Thanks
He stated Break through cases…..means vax people have Covid….(what happens when we use a leaking vax during an outbreak)

[mike234]

the media has the right to say, do and ruin anyones life as they please. they have the right to report fake news and lies about anyone they choose without penalty.

[mike234]

if it was a black person missing, they would be lucky to get a digital notice over a highway....

[bowlingal]

He is also missing now

[JMintzer]

He is also missing now

You misspelled "hiding"...

[jdulej]

I am happy to see that this non-story is not getting much traction in serious media (NYT, WaPo). It might be there somewhere, but not splashed across the front pages.

[sdm1222]

Now the Fiance, (suspect), Brian Laundrie's family have reported him missing since Tuesday.

[DaleDivine]

if it was a black person missing, they would be lucky to get a digital notice over a highway....

Don't understand why this has to be made a racial issue...
:ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:

[golden]

Given the mess that our country is in, if you have any interest in this case whatsoever you need to rearrange your life priotities.

[MLuft]

Read the book A Rip in Heaven and u may better understand why this man is not speaking and has a lawyer. I guided my children in this direction after reading.

[oneclickplus]

Gabby Petito is all over the news because she is missing and her fiance refuses to say anything about where she may be. Obviously, if he committed a crime, the fiance has the legal right to not reveal anything that would result in his arrest and prosecution. He is following his lawyer's advice. The media and others are putting immense pressure on the fiance with unrelenting coverage of him. I suspect that he cannot even safely leave his house. I'm conflicted about this. If he is just exercising his legal rights, does the media have the right to effectively ruin his life? Should the law be changed? What do you think?

From my arm chair, the analysis is simple. His legal rights do not supersede her rights to life. Only a person responsible for her disappearance or death would act as he is doing. My simple conclusion is that he killed her. His actions speak louder that his words (which happen to be none).

[airstreamingypsy]

From my arm chair, the analysis is simple. His legal rights do not supersede her rights to life. Only a person responsible for her disappearance or death would act as he is doing. My simple conclusion is that he killed her. His actions speak louder that his words (which happen to be none).

Yeah, I don't see this ending well. He either killed her or injured her and left her in the wilderness.

[retiredguy123]

the media has the right to say, do and ruin anyones life as they please. they have the right to report fake news and lies about anyone they choose without penalty.
I agree. The media has too much power and almost no accountability. I think they have the right to report that the fiance is not talking, but they shouldn't have the right to report it non-stop, hour after hour, and in a such way that it ruins his life.

[Billy1]

Don't go on a cruise with an angry spouse, either.

[GypsyRN]

Oh, please!!! Glad you're NOT in a position of authority too!! Without the mere "scantest" of facts, there are those who seem to lean towards convicting the fiance' without so much of an investigation!! He doesn't "have" to talk to ANYONE at any time!

I've always felt that if I was ever so unfortunate to be tried for "ANYTHING", I'd much prefer to have my fate decided by a judge, than a jury composed of jurors whose mindset leans towards that paralleling yours!! Geez!!

[retiredguy123]

From my arm chair, the analysis is simple. His legal rights do not supersede her rights to life. Only a person responsible for her disappearance or death would act as he is doing. My simple conclusion is that he killed her. His actions speak louder that his words (which happen to be none).
Maybe. But, "You have the right to remain silent" has been the law since 1966. Apparently, he could be given immunity and be required to talk or be prosecuted.

[cassjax2]

He went “missing” Friday. Hmmmm…..

[mrrmauu]

if it was a black person missing, they would be lucky to get a digital notice over a highway....

Trot out the race card where race has NOTHING to do with the story. Welcome to my block list.

[Girlcopper]

Gabby Petito is all over the news because she is missing and her fiance refuses to say anything about where she may be. Obviously, if he committed a crime, the fiance has the legal right to not reveal anything that would result in his arrest and prosecution. He is following his lawyer's advice. The media and others are putting immense pressure on the fiance with unrelenting coverage of him. I suspect that he cannot even safely leave his house. I'm conflicted about this. If he is just exercising his legal rights, does the media have the right to effectively ruin his life? Should the law be changed? What do you think?
Its more than obvious shes dead and he killed her. Common sense. Its his girlfriend. If he had nothing to do with her disappearance then why hire a lawyer and refuse to speak to police. Yes, he has the right NOT to speak but if innocent…..why not talk??

[Two Bills]

He went “missing” Friday. Hmmmm…..

According to the report I read (BBC) "My client has gone into hiding, Gabby is the missing person."
That was his lawyers quote.
Evidently crowds had gathered outside his house, chanting "Where is Gabby?"

[Pat2015]

Gabby Petito is all over the news because she is missing and her fiance refuses to say anything about where she may be. Obviously, if he committed a crime, the fiance has the legal right to not reveal anything that would result in his arrest and prosecution. He is following his lawyer's advice. The media and others are putting immense pressure on the fiance with unrelenting coverage of him. I suspect that he cannot even safely leave his house. I'm conflicted about this. If he is just exercising his legal rights, does the media have the right to effectively ruin his life? Should the law be changed? What do you think?
He has an obligation as a human being to tell her family where she is. If it was your daughter I’m thinking you’d have no issue with the media “ruining” his life?

[Marine1974]

Given the mess that our country is in, if you have any interest in this case whatsoever you need to rearrange your life priotities.

Why are you reading this post then and commenting ?

[Pat2015]

Bad feeling that she walked away and he could not find her...so he just left her roaming....went home and now has been gone since last Tues.
I have a bad feeling that he may have killed her and has left her somewhere that she’ll never be found. If he doesn’t talk and her body isn’t found he’s hoping he can get past all of this and never be charged.

[allsport]

Gabby Petito is all over the news because she is missing and her fiance refuses to say anything about where she may be. Obviously, if he committed a crime, the fiance has the legal right to not reveal anything that would result in his arrest and prosecution. He is following his lawyer's advice. The media and others are putting immense pressure on the fiance with unrelenting coverage of him. I suspect that he cannot even safely leave his house. I'm conflicted about this. If he is just exercising his legal rights, does the media have the right to effectively ruin his life? Should the law be changed? What do you think?

As of yesterday, he now is missing also. So what does that tell you?

[Bolsadd]

Ha!

[CosmicTrucker]

A few points most have missed. She was struggling with creating a YouTube blog about their travels. She also was the aggressor in the cops body cam video.
We may soon learn this is a stunt to gain views to their YouTube channel.

[chasandvalr]

Gabby Petito is all over the news because the news is using it to deflect from Biden and his cronies killing this country.

[chasandvalr]

As of yesterday, he now is missing also. So what does that tell you?

That they need a GPS.

[PurePeach]

It is a good thing I do not hold a position of authority, because I think he hurt her or killed her.

They have also looked into a newly wed couple who were gay who were killed at the same time. I don't remember clearly the connection, but I think I read that someone saw them arguing near where those bodies were discovered.

I really try not to do that...type things I am not sure of, but it stuck in my mind as that.

I think I also remember he was home a week without reporting her missing. I am really believing he harmed her. I wish I knew what his mindset is on homosexuality....or hers.

I have a lot of time right now to read stuff like this. I am waiting to return full blast to groups until this wave of Covid calms down. I know of a total of eight people, all Villagers who have had the break through sickness and some were REALLY sick with it.
And now he has been missing since Tuesday.

[JMintzer]

As of yesterday, he now is missing also. So what does that tell you?

That the press can't spell "hiding"?

[jdulej]

I am pretty close to shutting off Fox News also. but the alternative is worse. I have pleaded with liberals who mock Fox News and ask "well, what news do you watch?" and you know the answer to that question. silence......so, I just watch the stock market futures in the morning, and reruns of the beverly hillbillies. ya, the media is not to be trusted anymore.

I agree with you in part - there is nothing that I have found on cable TV that is not biased one way or the other. I think it's because they are so purely profit driven and all that really matters is viewing numbers. Middle of the road, both sides covered, is nothing if not boring compared to one-sided diatribes.
The cable channels also have become pretty good at blurring the line between "news" and "opinion". Anyone who thinks Rachel Maddow or Tucker Carlson are anything besides opinion/entertainment has taken the bait.
Another example - any channel that is paying more than a passing mention to the current non-story of the missing girlfriend/hiding boyfriend is not worth watching. If you don't know what I am talking about, good for you!

[brick010207]

Gabby Petito is all over the news because the news is using it to deflect from Biden and his cronies killing this country.
Like the Race post, why bring politics into this? Guessing you can only take one position at a time

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

It is a good thing I do not hold a position of authority, because I think he hurt her or killed her.

They have also looked into a newly wed couple who were gay who were killed at the same time. I don't remember clearly the connection, but I think I read that someone saw them arguing near where those bodies were discovered.

I really try not to do that...type things I am not sure of, but it stuck in my mind as that.

I think I also remember he was home a week without reporting her missing. I am really believing he harmed her. I wish I knew what his mindset is on homosexuality....or hers.

I have a lot of time right now to read stuff like this. I am waiting to return full blast to groups until this wave of Covid calms down. I know of a total of eight people, all Villagers who have had the break through sickness and some were REALLY sick with it. what homosexuality has to do with this case

[jdulej]

Gabby Petito is all over the news because the news is using it to deflect from Biden and his cronies killing this country.

The only news it's "all over" is the useless cable news channels you should not be watching for real news anyway.

[caseycasebeer]

I was wondering the same thing ...homosexuality? How does that tie-in?
Both Gabby&Brian were in Moab, (UT) and were seen in the Moonflower Community Grocery (Moab) grocery a few days before the time the newly married lesbian couple were murdered. Other than that, I am not aware of any coincidence or relevance between them and the two women who were murdered a few day’s later. ...did I miss something?

[Number 10 GI]

The only news it's "all over" is the useless cable news channels you should not be watching for real news anyway.

What news agencies tell the truth????????????? Anyone that believes the mainstream medial is factual and unbiased in their reporting is delusional or an idiot.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

I was wondering the same thing ...homosexuality? How does that tie-in?
Both Gabby&Brian were in Moab, (UT) and were seen in the Moonflower Community Grocery (Moab) grocery a few days before the time the newly married lesbian couple were murdered. Other than that, I am not aware of any coincidence or relevance between them and the two women who were murdered a few day’s later. ...did I miss something? the source

[Number 10 GI]

If you will do a bit of research and talk to criminal investigators you will find that in the vast majority of cases involving a couple, significant other or spouse, where one is missing or dead the spouse/significant other is the perpetrator of the crime. Follow the science and in this case criminal science.

[graciegirl]

I was wondering the same thing ...homosexuality? How does that tie-in?
Both Gabby&Brian were in Moab, (UT) and were seen in the Moonflower Community Grocery (Moab) grocery a few days before the time the newly married lesbian couple were murdered. Other than that, I am not aware of any coincidence or relevance between them and the two women who were murdered a few day’s later. ...did I miss something?

I am not trying to start something. I myself read that the investigators were interested in the fact that the two of them were seen arguing in that area shortly after those women would have been killed.

I am an armchair detective and leap to connections. I am not dissing anyone here. Just wondering if this guy had strong views that I do not share.

I am not a homophobe. I am an openminded person that ****es off both sides of any issue.

I read this and wondered what his mindset was/is that is all.

GOOD GREIF. It is o.k. to talk about subjects that are difficult.

REPORT: Utah investigators speak on double homicide near missing Gabby Petito incident (https://dennismichaellynch.com/report-utah-investigators-speak-on-double-homicide-near-missing-gabby-petito-incident/)

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

It seams like I’ve heard this before on another subject

[mike234]

well, dude, it is just an unbiased opinion. it is true, and not the race card.

[mike234]

follow this: the cable news people get paid to say, what they are told to say. I don't think Scarborough is stupid, and actually believes what he is saying, but for 12 million a year he will do as told, so won't his not so bright sidekick....... the hated creeps on the view? they are not dumb either, but they also get paid to say that nonsense and make people mad....those fake tears from plump Maegan mccain? fake, she gets big money do that. they sit there and read of a script with their heads down.

[graciegirl]

It seams like I’ve heard this before on another subject

I as a senior adult am allowed to ponder about subjects that are off limits to some.

I can talk about suicide, mental health, homosexuality, infidelity, drug addiction etc.

I am not allowed to discuss politics on this forum.


YOU are not the boss of ME.

and I am not the boss of YOU.

In our house we have always discussed difficult subjects...that is considered the basis for good mental health.

[chrisinva]

WHY, oh, WHY is this getting media coverage it has been getting? Granted, it's kind of interesting - cross country road trip, one person returns, one person disappears - but really! The same thing & variations of the same thing, happens to lots of other people in the US every day. Our media is turning into True Crime/ NYPost/ etc etc. I am not an inquiring mind.

[graciegirl]

WHY, oh, WHY is this getting media coverage it has been getting? Granted, it's kind of interesting - cross country road trip, one person returns, one person disappears - but really! The same thing & variations of the same thing, happens to lots of other people in the US every day. Our media is turning into True Crime/ NYPost/ etc etc. I am not an inquiring mind.

I don't mind at all. I like true crime and watch a lot of it on TV. The day to day other choices do get very very similar.

This young woman is from Florida. Actually they both are from the NYC area and went to high school together. I wonder how they make their living. She told police she has a degree in Nutrition. The van is registered to her.

I am guessing as to WHY it is getting media coverage is that TRUE CRIME is a very popular subject and the media gets paid for people reading their stuff.

THAT is the reason they have headlines that make you WANT to see what this or that is all about.

WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL HAPPEN?

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Again it is true about talking about suicide and homosexuality can be helpful but homosexuality and the disappearance of a woman and suicide and the death of a person seem to me agenda driven

[tvbound]

Human interest and mysterious crime stories - SELL. I'm pretty sure a lot of those who decry the publicity this particular story is getting, were riveted by one or more of the Charles Manson/O.J. Simpson/Lacy Peterson/Amanda Knox/Etc..Etc. stories. What makes this one tough, is that there isn't a body yet to prove a crime and since prosecutors usually only get one bite at the apple, it can be frustrating if the 'person of interest' can't be found - or won't talk.

[graciegirl]

TikToker claims she picked up Brian Laundrie hitchhiking alone 4 days after Gabby Petito last made contact with her family (https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/lifestyle-buzz/tiktoker-claims-she-picked-up-brian-laundrie-hitchhiking-alone-4-days-after-gabby-petito-last-made-contact-with-her-family/ar-AAOzX4n?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531)

[tvbound]

Again it is true about talking about suicide and homosexuality can be helpful but homosexuality and the disappearance of a woman and suicide and the death of a person seem to me agenda driven

Agreed. Law enforcement officials have stated that they don't see any connection between the two, so all of the unfounded gossip and prurient speculation - can pretty much cease.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Well there’s the answer if it was on.tic tok it must be true , it certainly couldn’t be gossip

[graciegirl]

Well there’s the answer if it was on.tic tok it must be true , it certainly couldn’t be gossip

Do you think Gabby is alive?
Do you think Brian, her fiance knows where she is?
WHAT do you think happened?

I think, but have nothing concrete at all to go on that she will be found dead and he killed her.

I wonder what the final argument was about.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

angry with a bunch of strangers I think not . I’m 82 lived much of my life outside USA and truly believe that race, religion or sexual preference have no bearing on how I look at a person and I’m the happiest 82 year old you’ll ever know , this site is just fun even more so when it hits home with someone, we’ll I’m off to gym and later chop house tonight

[JMintzer]

I as a senior adult am allowed to ponder about subjects that are off limits to some.

I can talk about suicide, mental health, homosexuality, infidelity, drug addiction etc.

I am not allowed to discuss politics on this forum.


YOU are not the boss of ME.

and I am not the boss of YOU.

In our house we have always discussed difficult subjects...that is considered the basis for good mental health.

What does your age have to do with anything?

[GypsyRN]

I am not trying to start something. I myself read that the investigators were interested in the fact that the two of them were seen arguing in that area shortly after those women would have been killed.

I am an armchair detective and leap to connections. I am not dissing anyone here. Just wondering if this guy had strong views that I do not share.

I am not a homophobe. I am an openminded person that ****es off both sides of any issue.

I read this and wondered what his mindset was/is that is all.

GOOD GREIF. It is o.k. to talk about subjects that are difficult.

REPORT: Utah investigators speak on double homicide near missing Gabby Petito incident (https://dennismichaellynch.com/report-utah-investigators-speak-on-double-homicide-near-missing-gabby-petito-incident/)

Wow!!! Are we having a bad day today? Over the past several years, I have seen certain TOTV armchair pundits go from "insightful" to apparently "whacked out" as they obviously have nothing better to do than pontificate on subjects well beyond their grasps of reality!! Meds might help!!

[graciegirl]

What does your age have to do with anything?

Thank you.

[JMintzer]

Thank you.

Ummm... YOU used it as an excuse. It was a question about that, not a compliment...

[Taltarzac725]

Police reports, social media provide timeline of Gabby Petito'''s disappearance after road trip with fiance (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/police-reports-social-media-provide-timeline-gabby-petito-s-disappearance-n1279390)

Who knows what happened here? No body right now except Gabby Petito.

I hope the facts turn in her favor and not against her fate.

[graciegirl]

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[JMintzer]

Do we always talk nurse plural?

What do you find "whacked out"? Hope the folks in your gypsy caravan get other healthcare, nursie.

That was rather insulting...

[graciegirl]

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[JMintzer]

So is being called "whacked out". That is a first for me...........too.

Well, technically no one called you that...

She specifically said "certain TOTV armchair pundits"...

Now, if you saw yourself as one of those, maybe that's something to reflect on...

[TNKYGAL]

Whatever happened to civility?
Whatever happened to kindness?
What's wrong with curiosity?

Wow, I'm a bit surprised by the name-calling and insults being hurled here.

I also, like Graciegirl, have a curious mind and find true crime stories, although very sad, fascinating - mostly learning about the forensic science that is used to solve the crimes. I am an Investigation Discovery frequent viewer for that reason, and I also note connections based on statistically relevant details.

Insulting people because they find it interesting enough to be curious about it and/or ponder about it and want to hear others' thoughts is VERY rude. WHY?

To Graciegirl: Yes, I think there is likely foul play. In today's world, if Gabby was okay, she would surely be posting on social media and/or talking/texting to her family.
The fiancé is certainly contributing to the speculation that he has something nefarious to conceal by hiding (his family's assertion).

I try to put myself in others' positions:
If she were my daughter, I would surely want as much press as possible to find her, and I would not take kindly to folks posting sharp jabs/insults about it being nothing of interest.

If I were the fiancé, I would surely be telling police (if innocent of foul play) where and why we separated and would want as much press as possible to find her.

If I were a policeman on the case, I would want to look at any surrounding circumstances from their trip. Detectives can get tunnel vision if they make premature assumptions and don't investigate ALL possible circumstances (like a homicide that happened nearby).

Insult me, too, if you must, but seriously? I just have an active mind, a big imagination, and have watched hundreds of true-life (mostly solved) crimes and wonder how this one will turn out.

[graciegirl]

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[Get real]

I have a bad feeling that he may have killed her and has left her somewhere that she’ll never be found. If he doesn’t talk and her body isn’t found he’s hoping he can get past all of this and never be charged.

I never knew about the "Zone of Death" in Idaho where it is legally possible to commit murder and not be prosecuted. Pretty bizarre.

[tvbound]

I never knew about the "Zone of Death" in Idaho where it is legally possible to commit murder and not be prosecuted. Pretty bizarre.

"Bizarre" indeed.

Zone of Death (Yellowstone - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_of_Death_(Yellowstone))

[graciegirl]

I wonder how each of them support themselves traveling across country. They have gas and food and that isn't free. The van was in her name. Where is it now?

I wonder if both of them are as unstable as they look to me, as I read these articles.

I wonder if they will find Brian Laundrie alive or if he committed suicide?

[graciegirl]

I wonder how each of them support themselves traveling across country. They have gas and food and that isn't free. The van was in her name. Where is it now?

I wonder if both of them are as unstable as they look to me, as I read these articles.

I wonder if they will find Brian Laundrie alive or if he committed suicide?

Don't you wonder what their high school classmates have to say about them both?

Don't you wonder about their philosophy on other things?

A friend messaged me whose husband was a homicide detective for many years and she said he thinks that the people looking for him have a lot of information not known to the public.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

There are many people who save up for trips like this especially for many young people and it has been life changing experience for all that take this journey. I see nothing in those pictures that would make them look out of the ordinary, I myself if you saw me without my shirt have 10 tats , maybe you would judge me which I’m sure some people would especially in villages but dressed my clothes are all Armani and Hugo Boss and I’ve never gone out at night even when I lived in Miami Beach in shorts just slacks or jeans and no flip flops or sneakers, but I guess some here are more skilled then I when they look at those pictures , after all they know more about it because they watch an awful lot of ID and true crime shows

[JMintzer]

I wonder how each of them support themselves traveling across country. They have gas and food and that isn't free. The van was in her name. Where is it now?

They were youtube bloggers. For some inane reason, you can earn money doing that...

Many have become millionaires doing that... There is a little Japanese boy who has made over $11 MILLION playing with toys on youtube...

Yes, the van was in her name. Apparently, Laundrie drove the van back to Florida. It's been searched by the police...

[New Englander]

Hope FBI are reading this thread.
TOTV will have this case solved inside another 20+ posts!

:1rotfl:

[graciegirl]

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[graciegirl]

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[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

You would be wrong to think that my long history from the first parachute battalion of French Foreign Legion to my long life in other conflicts makes me a good guy, many of my best compatriots were not nice guys

[graciegirl]

I salute you Charles.

[graciegirl]

Body found where Gabby Petito search is underway in Wyoming, no confirmation of identity (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/body-found-where-gabby-petito-search-is-underway-in-wyoming-no-confirmation-of-identity/ar-AAOBY5H?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531)

[Malsua]

So a body was found in the area where the police were looking for this girl.


Body discovered amid Gabby Petito search in Wyoming national park (https://nypost.com/2021/09/19/body-discovered-amid-gabby-petito-search-in-wyoming-national-park/)

There is a report that about 10 minutes after the discovery, search dogs were loaded up and driven off, as if they weren't needed any longer.

I'm going to guess that numbnutz will be found swinging in a tree in the park he's hiding in.

[Taltarzac725]

So a body was found in the area where the police were looking for this girl.


Body discovered amid Gabby Petito search in Wyoming national park (https://nypost.com/2021/09/19/body-discovered-amid-gabby-petito-search-in-wyoming-national-park/)

There is a report that about 10 minutes after the discovery, search dogs were loaded up and driven off, as if they weren't needed any longer.

I'm going to guess that numbnutz will be found swinging in a tree in the park he's hiding in.

Pieces of him are probably in the belly of some Everglades' gators and other wildlife.

They were more than likely in some domestic fight that escalated.

[ohpogue]

Gabby Petito is all over the news because she is missing and her fiance refuses to say anything about where she may be. Obviously, if he committed a crime, the fiance has the legal right to not reveal anything that would result in his arrest and prosecution. He is following his lawyer's advice. The media and others are putting immense pressure on the fiance with unrelenting coverage of him. I suspect that he cannot even safely leave his house. I'm conflicted about this. If he is just exercising his legal rights, does the media have the right to effectively ruin his life? Should the law be changed? What do you think?

I have felt since day one the he was guilty. Who leaves their fiance in a National Park alone with no transportation out? He should have called athorities if she was missing or decided to stay on her own. He should have called her parents and told them she wasn't coming home with him for whatever reason. Not come home and disappear into the woods so he can't be found. Hopefully he doesn't kill himself and we find out what really happened because he knows he is going to jail for a long time. His life deserves to be ruined. he ruined Gabbys

[graciegirl]

I have felt since day one the he was guilty. Who leaves their fiance in a National Park alone with no transportation out? He should have called athorities if she was missing or decided to stay on her own. He should have called her parents and told them she wasn't coming home with him for whatever reason. Not come home and disappear into the woods so he can't be found. Hopefully he doesn't kill himself and we find out what really happened because he knows he is going to jail for a long time. His life deserves to be ruined. he ruined Gabbys

I so agree with this person and only two posts too.

[NoMoSno]

Parent's home now marked with crime scene tape, search warrant served. Parents taken in for questioning.

[Taltarzac725]

Parent's home now marked with crime scene tape, search warrant served. Parents taken in for questioning.

They might not know much of anything. He probably told them very little about what happened out West with Gabby.

[Malsua]

They might not know much of anything. He probably told them very little about what happened out West with Gabby.

Or they helped him escape and dropped the car off at the preserve to throw the police off the trail. You never know what story he told his folks "I didn't hurt her, she done run oft, I looked for her, now she might be dead and they're going to think I did it! Help me!"

[Velvet]

She was such a beautiful, happy looking, young lady. What a shame! I hope they find out exactly what happened.

[Taltarzac725]

She was such a beautiful, happy looking, young lady. What a shame! I hope they find out exactly what happened.

The forensics will probably tell them a lot unless the remains were damaged in some way.

[Get real]

She was such a beautiful, happy looking, young lady. What a shame! I hope they find out exactly what happened.

How come when a beautiful, happy looking, young black lady is killed there is not this media attention?

[coralway]

I am pretty close to shutting off Fox News also. but the alternative is worse. I have pleaded with liberals who mock Fox News and ask "well, what news do you watch?" and you know the answer to that question. silence......so, I just watch the stock market futures in the morning, and reruns of the beverly hillbillies. ya, the media is not to be trusted anymore.






CSPAN, 538, politifact

[graciegirl]

How come when a beautiful, happy looking, young black lady is killed there is not this media attention?

Markeith Loyd avoids death penalty for killing his ex-girlfriend and her unborn child | CNN (https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/23/us/markeith-loyd-murder-sentence/index.html)

[JMintzer]

How come when a beautiful, happy looking, young black lady is killed there is not this media attention?

I guess for the same reason no one in the media cares when they're killed in Chicago, every weekend...

[Get real]

Markeith Loyd avoids death penalty for killing his ex-girlfriend and her unborn child | CNN (https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/23/us/markeith-loyd-murder-sentence/index.html)

Markeith Lloyd also executed a police officer by sitting on her chest and shooting her while she was on her back. Her name was Debra Clayton. He also grew up with her and lived in the same neighborhoods. That is pretty sensational in it's own right. But that is ONE case from 2017, not about the thousands in Chicago and elsewhere. All that fake media narrative and politician crap makes me sick.....

[graciegirl]

Markeith Lloyd also executed a police officer by sitting on her chest and shooting her while she was on her back. Her name was Debra Clayton. He also grew up with her and lived in the same neighborhoods. That is pretty sensational in it's own right. But that is ONE case from 2017, not about the thousands in Chicago and elsewhere. All that fake media narrative and politician crap makes me sick.....

I am very aware of the murder of Debra Clayton, an experienced and much liked police officer for many years in Orlando. The press was full of her death by this monster. She recognized him when he emerged from a grocery. After she fell he continued shooting her as she lay dying.

I don't pay attention much to race or gender as a factor when I watch true crime.

Here are some figures from Statista from 2019.
• Murder in the U.S.: victims by race/ethnicity and gender 2019 | Statista (https://www.statista.com/statistics/251877/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-race-ethnicity-and-gender/)

[tvbound]

How come when a beautiful, happy looking, young black lady is killed there is not this media attention?

Agreed, but I will also add that the 'appearance' of someone in this sad situation shouldn't have anything to do - with its seriousness and/or coverage.

[Number 10 GI]

How come when a beautiful, happy looking, young black lady is killed there is not this media attention?

Sounds like you need to question the media about that.

[Taltarzac725]

How come when a beautiful, happy looking, young black lady is killed there is not this media attention?

It depends on where you are looking-- They walked for the ‘Unforgotten 51’ and all other Black women murdered or missing in Chicago | Fountain - Chicago Sun-Times (https://chicago.suntimes.com/2021/6/25/22551121/unforgotten-51-murder-black-women-chicago-we-walk-for-her-iv-john-fountain)

[Get real]

Sounds like you need to question the media about that.

Now that is funny.....:a20::a20::a20:

[DaleDivine]

This post is getting to be a RACIAL issue now...
:ohdear::ohdear::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

[Velvet]

This post is getting to be a RACIAL issue now...
:ohdear::ohdear::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

Only if you take the bait. Some of us just don’t let others set the agenda.

[jimbomaybe]

Don't understand why this has to be made a racial issue...
:ohdear::ohdear::ohdear: One track mind

[JMintzer]

How come when a beautiful, happy looking, young black lady is killed there is not this media attention?

Without using Google, can you name one unarmed white person who's been killed by police that receive any serious media attention?

[Get real]

Only if you take the bait. Some of us just don’t let others set the agenda.

Oh you are so clever. It's not bait.

[Velvet]

So now it has been determined that she was killed. And the police can’t locate the boyfriend.

[tvbound]

While based on the current known facts, my gut says that he killed her, but I can also imagine a half-dozen scenarios he and his lawyers could throw out that could cast doubt on a unanimous guilty verdict (beyond a reasonable doubt), so I have this bad feeling that he might get away with it. I really hope I'm wrong, on all accounts, but I don't think I am. I do feel his parents should be held accountable though, for their actions, or more specifically - their lack of actions. Just my $.02.

[Escape Artist]

Without using Google, can you name one unarmed white person who's been killed by police that receive any serious media attention?

I'm always "thanking" you, by the way. Probably half of your "thanks" are from me. I just seem to like what you say more often than not! :coolsmiley:

Anyway, I digress... I haven't followed this story and don't know who these people are. Are they famous in some way, other than from this latest event? I'm sure there are many young women that go missing, some eventually found dead, and you don't hear about them unless it happens in your locale.

My immediate thought was the boyfriend was guilty but then I remembered the book/movie "Gone Girl". If you know it, then you will agree that things aren't always what they seem. But now they have found her body so that theory is out the window.

And pay no attention to the race-baiting, they're just trolling TOTV to get a rise out of people and stir up controversy. Why else would you make such ridiculous, non-pertinent comments?

[tvbound]

Oh you are so clever. It's not bait.

"It's not bait."

It's definitely "not bait," it is simply a fact. The 'young, pretty white women' get a lot more media/people attention, than women of color (or indigenous women) who are abducted and/or murdered. A lot of the scumbag perpetrators know this fact and often target young women of color - to carry out their heinous acts. One only has to ask themselves how many white women they have heard of who have been abducted and become big news - compared to minority women. :(

[graciegirl]

"It's not bait."

It's definitely "not bait," it is simply a fact. The 'young, pretty white women' get a lot more media/people attention, than women of color (or indigenous women) who are abducted and/or murdered. A lot of the scumbag perpetrators know this fact and often target young women of color - to carry out their heinous acts. One only has to ask themselves how many white women they have heard of who have been abducted and become big news - compared to minority women. :(

White people are more common in the U.S.

Sexual predators have their own fantasies according to the true crime I watch. Some have to do with race and some do not.


I was very timid and insecure as a young woman but I knew enough to stay far away from over directive, bossy, harsh and cold men.

[Taltarzac725]

They seem to be working on the problem. Native American women face an epidemic of violence. A legal loophole prevents prosecutions. (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/native-american-women-face-epidemic-violence-legal-loophole-prevents-prosecutions-n1272670)

"It's not bait."

It's definitely "not bait," it is simply a fact. The 'young, pretty white women' get a lot more media/people attention, than women of color (or indigenous women) who are abducted and/or murdered. A lot of the scumbag perpetrators know this fact and often target young women of color - to carry out their heinous acts. One only has to ask themselves how many white women they have heard of who have been abducted and become big news - compared to minority women. :(

[Velvet]

Video of the couple shows, as far as appearance goes, since that’s all the video shows, she was way “out of his league” as high school kids would say. I wonder if that had anything to do with it?

[tvbound]

White people are more common in the U.S.

Sexual predators have their own fantasies according to the true crime I watch. Some have to do with race and some do not.


I was very timid and insecure as a young woman but I knew enough to stay far away from over directive, bossy, harsh and cold men.

"White people are more common in the U.S."

I know you're smarter than to believe, that is the primary reason between the huge disparity of publicity regarding 'pretty, white women' - and indigenous or women of color.

Violence Against Black Women – Many Types, Far-reaching Effects - IWPR (https://iwpr.org/iwpr-issues/race-ethnicity-gender-and-economy/violence-against-black-women-many-types-far-reaching-effects/)

"More than four in ten Black women experience physical violence from an intimate partner during their lifetimes. White women, Latinas, and Asian/Pacific Islander women report lower rates."


I too learned to avoid females who were cold, two-faced, manipulative or passive-aggressive, so I would say that we were both trained well - at a young age.

[tvbound]

They seem to be working on the problem. Native American women face an epidemic of violence. A legal loophole prevents prosecutions. (/news/us-news/native-american-women-face-epidemic-violence-legal-loophole-prevents-prosecutions-n1272670)

Great to hear.

[SkBlogW]

"White people are more common in the U.S."

I know you're smarter than to believe, that is the primary reason between the huge disparity of publicity regarding 'pretty, white women' - and indigenous or women of color.

Violence Against Black Women – Many Types, Far-reaching Effects - IWPR (https://iwpr.org/iwpr-issues/race-ethnicity-gender-and-economy/violence-against-black-women-many-types-far-reaching-effects/)

"More than four in ten Black women experience physical violence from an intimate partner during their lifetimes. White women, Latinas, and Asian/Pacific Islander women report lower rates."


I too learned to avoid females who were cold, two-faced, manipulative or passive-aggressive, so I would say that we were both trained well - at a young age.

So 40% of black woman experience violence from their partners. What % of these partners are of the same race as the woman?

[tvbound]

So 40% of black woman experience violence from their partners. What % of these partners are of the same race as the woman?

About the same % of white women abused, assaulted or killed by men of their own race? The bottom line, as I stated earlier, is that it is much more likely that a "young, pretty white woman" will get much more media and population attention, on a purely percentage basis. That just isn't right or fair.

[Bill14564]

About the same % of white women abused, assaulted or killed by men of their own race? The bottom line, as I stated earlier, is that it is much more likely that a "young, pretty white woman" will get much more media and population attention, on a purely percentage basis. That just isn't right or fair.

It does appear that all (or certainly most) of the missing person cases that hit national news are white women but how many have made it to the news? I can think of only two this year and none last year. With over 600,000 missing persons each year, there are a lot of cases that don't get on national news, including a large number of missing white women.

It would be interesting to look into why a particular case draws national attention. Perhaps it helps if the missing person is a young white female but there are a lot of young white females missing right now that aren't on national news.

[graciegirl]

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[graciegirl]

"White people are more common in the U.S."

I know you're smarter than to believe, that is the primary reason between the huge disparity of publicity regarding 'pretty, white women' - and indigenous or women of color.

Violence Against Black Women – Many Types, Far-reaching Effects - IWPR (https://iwpr.org/iwpr-issues/race-ethnicity-gender-and-economy/violence-against-black-women-many-types-far-reaching-effects/)

"More than four in ten Black women experience physical violence from an intimate partner during their lifetimes. White women, Latinas, and Asian/Pacific Islander women report lower rates."


I too learned to avoid females who were cold, two-faced, manipulative or passive-aggressive, so I would say that we were both trained well - at a young age.


What I said was "There are more white people in the U.S.".

I have learned also to avoid cold, two faced, manipulative or bullying women as friends. I will not play games with either sex, nor will I be talked down to.

As for race and violence. I read the figures. I see the news. I wonder why.

[SkBlogW]

About the same % of white women abused, assaulted or killed by men of their own race? The bottom line, as I stated earlier, is that it is much more likely that a "young, pretty white woman" will get much more media and population attention, on a purely percentage basis. That just isn't right or fair.

Media attention not relevant. More important who are the abusers? You said 40% of black woman report abuse. What percentage of white woman report abuse? What race of men are most prone to abusing their partners?

[Velvet]

Looks like not only was he out of her league but he was stealing from the bank account.

[JMintzer]

"It's not bait."

It's definitely "not bait," it is simply a fact. The 'young, pretty white women' get a lot more media/people attention, than women of color (or indigenous women) who are abducted and/or murdered. A lot of the scumbag perpetrators know this fact and often target young women of color - to carry out their heinous acts. One only has to ask themselves how many white women they have heard of who have been abducted and become big news - compared to minority women. :(

I asked you the same question about all of the white men who are killed by police, who are completely ignored by the media...

Without using Google, can you name one?

[JMintzer]

About the same % of white women abused, assaulted or killed by men of their own race? The bottom line, as I stated earlier, is that it is much more likely that a "young, pretty white woman" will get much more media and population attention, on a purely percentage basis. That just isn't right or fair.

Where is it written that life is fair?

[graciegirl]

About the same % of white women abused, assaulted or killed by men of their own race? The bottom line, as I stated earlier, is that it is much more likely that a "young, pretty white woman" will get much more media and population attention, on a purely percentage basis. That just isn't right or fair.

I think you are making something racial that isn't. It isn't about race. It is a story that grabbed the public interest. People didn't MAKE it interesting, it was and is interesting. It wasn't "promoted" it was "clicked on".

I think it had a lot of elements to encourage interest. She was absolutely movie star beautiful and young. I had never heard of someone doing a "blog" about their transcontinental trip which I imagine gave her followers to begin with. Then the fact that HE returned home and did not say a word to her parents as to where she was, when they had been communicating with her daily was the plot twist. THEN he hired a lawyer. Curiouser and curiouser.

I remember following the cases of two other hugely followed murders in Florida in the past six years. One was about Markeith Loyd and the other was about the man who died in prison today, the father in law of the beautiful young mother whose body was dismembered and found on the farm of her husbands family. Markeith Loyd killed not only his pregnant wife but shot down a very popular female law officer who was very well liked in the community for many years. Then he lost his eye when he was finally arrested wearing her handcuffs.

The connection to what makes a story of true crime very interesting to the public is an interest or a connection to the public, not the race of the perp or the victim.

[Ele201]

I did find myself wondering why the media jumped on this particular case of a young woman who went missing. Following the story is fine, but why was this front page news on so many media outlets for days? I mean no disrespect for her, but she’s not a celebrity, not someone well known etc.

And yes there were plenty of white women who went missing that were not given this kind of continuous coverage. I don’t think there’s a racial issue here. It does appear that all (or certainly most) of the missing person cases that hit national news are white women but how many have made it to the news? I can think of only two this year and none last year. With over 600,000 missing persons each year, there are a lot of cases that don't get on national news, including a large number of missing white women.

It would be interesting to look into why a particular case draws national attention. Perhaps it helps if the missing person is a young white female but there are a lot of young white females missing right now that aren't on national news.

[kathyspear]

I did find myself wondering why the media jumped on this particular case of a young woman who went missing. Following the story is fine, but why was this front page news on so many media outlets for days? I mean no disrespect for her, but she’s not a celebrity, not someone well known etc.

And yes there were plenty of white women who went missing that were not given this kind of continuous coverage. I don’t think there’s a racial issue here.

Frequently when someone goes missing they just ... go missing. Not a lot of details other than "s/he left abc and never showed up at xyz". In this current case, the couple were publicizing their journey by blogging and vlogging about it on the Internet. By the time her parents reported her missing it came out that the BF had driven back to FL in HER CAR without HER. So from the gitgo we had reason to believe he was involved and was apparently stupid enough to think he could show up at home in that van and NOT be suspected! We immediately have a bad guy to obsess over.

Because Gabby had that blog there are lots of photos and video clips of the two of them during their trip for the media to show over and over. And of course she was this adorable young girl, setting off an adventure with the love of her life (RETCH) ... only to have it end so badly. I think because of what we knew about them, people were strongly affected by the story. And we love having a bad guy to hate!

Just my thoughts.

kathy

[Velvet]

Yes, it seems like a good summary, Kathy, and to those of you who try to take the attention away from this young couple, you are trying to use this unfortunate situation to promote YOUR agenda, and it is NOT what this thread about. Start a new thread if you have an issue.

[Taltarzac725]

Frequently when someone goes missing they just ... go missing. Not a lot of details other than "s/he left abc and never showed up at xyz". In this current case, the couple were publicizing their journey by blogging and vlogging about it on the Internet. By the time her parents reported her missing it came out that the BF had driven back to FL in HER CAR without HER. So from the gitgo we had reason to believe he was involved and was apparently stupid enough to think he could show up at home in that van and NOT be suspected! We immediately have a bad guy to obsess over.

Because Gabby had that blog there are lots of photos and video clips of the two of them during their trip for the media to show over and over. And of course she was this adorable young girl, setting off an adventure with the love of her life (RETCH) ... only to have it end so badly. I think because of what we knew about them, people were strongly affected by the story. And we love having a bad guy to hate!

Just my thoughts.

kathy

Very well put!!!

News programs do need advertisers to pitch their products during commercials so they do tend to find stories that have a lot of human interest like this one. And it does attract viewers. Beautiful young women who uses social media a lot goes missing.

[retiredguy123]

Maybe I'm too cynical, but I can't help but wonder why law enforcement didn't invest a small amount of money to keep the boyfriend under surveillance. Now, they are spending many millions of dollars of taxpayer money searching for him. Is there any limit to how much money they are willing to spend on the search with apparently no accountability?

[graciegirl]

Maybe I'm too cynical, but I can't help but wonder why law enforcement didn't invest a small amount of money to keep the boyfriend under surveillance. Now, they are spending many millions of dollars of taxpayer money searching for him. Is there any limit to how much money they are willing to spend on the search with apparently no accountability?

I looked it up. There are seventeen in the Northport police group.

At the beginning it did not seem as obvious as it does now.

[retiredguy123]

I looked it up. There are seventeen in the Northport police group.

At the beginning it did not seem as obvious as it does now.
The guy was refusing to talk to the police long before he ran away. Why didn't the FBI keep track of where he was? Now, they are spending unlimited taxpayer funds to search for him. I don't get it.

[skippy05]

The amount of media coverage and FBI coverage and FL police coverage on this case is out of control. How many people are shot and killed in Chicago every single day and zero of this happens? To me the girl and the guy and their familes got what was coming, each in their own way. The kids were raised with no morals, no work ethic, and were living off the parents in a damn van in the driveway. The parents created "raised" them with a lack of good parenting over years and years of stupidity. These kids and their familes are perfect examples of what our Country is all about today with no end in sight. The only thing that matters to most young adults today is social media fame and doing as little as possible to do any real work. They've never heard of the gospel nor any of its teachings that builds character and any sense of morality. These news stories are perfect examples of this. Oh this poor "beautiful" young girl who was so wonderful and full of life. If the girl was a geek guy that weighed 350 pounds and was balding....this story would not even exist. The only thing that matter is this happened to someone who was young and beautiful. And while we are at it....let us assume the guy is a monster and isn't simply on the run because he knows even if he didn't cause this that he stands no chance in hell of this not ruining the remainder of his life. Perhaps he is a monster but there is also the chance he didn't do it and is on the run out of fear. The media and most people following this story could care less....ASSUME at all loss of reason that he is a monster and who cares what the truth really is.

[graciegirl]

I read where Laundrie used Petito's credit/debit card and they are charging him with Fraud.

Now I am beginning to think he is still alive after initially thinking he committed suicide.

I have to think that there are important details not yet heard.

What do you think happened when his parents took him away for several days in their camper? Where did they go? What did they do? How many kids do the Laundries have other than Brian and his older sister who has kids that Gabby wrote to?

[Velvet]

The amount of media coverage and FBI coverage and FL police coverage on this case is out of control. How many people are shot and killed in Chicago every single day and zero of this happens? To me the girl and the guy and their familes got what was coming, each in their own way. The kids were raised with no morals, no work ethic, and were living off the parents in a damn van in the driveway. The parents created "raised" them with a lack of good parenting over years and years of stupidity. These kids and their familes are perfect examples of what our Country is all about today with no end in sight. The only thing that matters to most young adults today is social media fame and doing as little as possible to do any real work. They've never heard of the gospel nor any of its teachings that builds character and any sense of morality. These news stories are perfect examples of this. Oh this poor "beautiful" young girl who was so wonderful and full of life. If the girl was a geek guy that weighed 350 pounds and was balding....this story would not even exist. The only thing that matter is this happened to someone who was young and beautiful. And while we are at it....let us assume the guy is a monster and isn't simply on the run because he knows even if he didn't cause this that he stands no chance in hell of this not ruining the remainder of his life. Perhaps he is a monster but there is also the chance he didn't do it and is on the run out of fear. The media and most people following this story could care less....ASSUME at all loss of reason that he is a monster and who cares what the truth really is.

Well you have a point. In a sense we are attracted to pleasant stuff, whether it is visual, smell or taste. That is why we buy art, we like to look at it, perfume we like to smell it, and we eat delicious food. People prefer enjoyable things in general. Of course there are individual preferences, like I only watch commercials which have animals in them.

[Velvet]

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[Quickdraw]

Mr. Laundrie not only has the right to remain silent, he appears to be one of the very few who actually have the ability to do so. I would guess that over 50% of the people currently in prison in America are there for one reason only, and it was their lack of the ability to remain silent.

[graciegirl]

Mr. Laundrie not only has the right to remain silent, he appears to be one of the very few who actually have the ability to do so. I would guess that over 50% of the people currently in prison in America are there for one reason only, and it was their lack of the ability to remain silent.

Not to mention they did something terribly wrong that harmed someone awfully.

Just sayin'.

[bagboy]

The amount of media coverage and FBI coverage and FL police coverage on this case is out of control. How many people are shot and killed in Chicago every single day and zero of this happens? To me the girl and the guy and their familes got what was coming, each in their own way. The kids were raised with no morals, no work ethic, and were living off the parents in a damn van in the driveway. The parents created "raised" them with a lack of good parenting over years and years of stupidity. These kids and their familes are perfect examples of what our Country is all about today with no end in sight. The only thing that matters to most young adults today is social media fame and doing as little as possible to do any real work. They've never heard of the gospel nor any of its teachings that builds character and any sense of morality. These news stories are perfect examples of this. Oh this poor "beautiful" young girl who was so wonderful and full of life. If the girl was a geek guy that weighed 350 pounds and was balding....this story would not even exist. The only thing that matter is this happened to someone who was young and beautiful. And while we are at it....let us assume the guy is a monster and isn't simply on the run because he knows even if he didn't cause this that he stands no chance in hell of this not ruining the remainder of his life. Perhaps he is a monster but there is also the chance he didn't do it and is on the run out of fear. The media and most people following this story could care less....ASSUME at all loss of reason that he is a monster and who cares what the truth really is.

The girl got what's coming, in her own way. Did I misread something???

[skippy05]

no you didn't miss anything. she doesn't work a job and she contributes nothing to society. spends all of her time on youtube and twitter for a "living". chooses a man who does her harm for a boyfriend. chooses a man who can't even afford his own van. chooses a man who has no full-time job. Chooses a man who lives in his parent's driveway. cries like a baby over dirt in a van floor. drives all over the country having out-of-wedlock sex. Yes, she reap what she sow and suffered the consequences of all those decisions.

[JMintzer]

no you didn't miss anything. she doesn't work a job and she contributes nothing to society. spends all of her time on youtube and twitter for a "living". chooses a man who does her harm for a boyfriend. chooses a man who can't even afford his own van. chooses a man who has no full-time job. Chooses a man who lives in his parent's driveway. cries like a baby over dirt in a van floor. drives all over the country having out-of-wedlock sex. Yes, she reap what she sow and suffered the consequences of all those decisions.

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[Velvet]

The girl got what's coming, in her own way. Did I misread something???

You are the funniest!

[Velvet]

no you didn't miss anything. she doesn't work a job and she contributes nothing to society. spends all of her time on youtube and twitter for a "living". chooses a man who does her harm for a boyfriend. chooses a man who can't even afford his own van. chooses a man who has no full-time job. Chooses a man who lives in his parent's driveway. cries like a baby over dirt in a van floor. drives all over the country having out-of-wedlock sex. Yes, she reap what she sow and suffered the consequences of all those decisions.

Ah, hind sight is 20/20. Our lost children, where were their parents? But given all those bad choices, she seemed truly happy for a little while….

[Gulfcoast]

Both Gabby and Brian quit their jobs to go on this trip. We really don't have a lot of details about their finances or how long they had both been working before the trip or how much money they had saved up for the trip. Gabby was hoping to get enough viewers her on her social media channels to earn an income that way. In the meantime, it does sound as though their parents were helping them.

Gabby was only 22 and should have had many more years ahead of her. Sadly, her life was cut short.

When I heard that Brian and his parents had gone silent and weren't talking to the police I knew that was a very bad sign. I think that most people did.

[ML Smith]

I am trying to figure out why this particular case is national news?

[tvbound]

I am trying to figure out why this particular case is national news?

Missing white woman syndrome - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_white_woman_syndrome)

[Gulfcoast]

I am trying to figure out why this particular case is national news?

I think it has a lot to do with the fact that Gabby had been documenting her travels with her boyfriend and she had been in regular communication with her parents and that communication abruptly ended. Her boyfriend showed up at his parents' house with her van and presumably had been using her credit/bank accounts. Gabby at first was missing and her boyfriend wasn't talking and neither were his parents. Now Gabby's body has been found, the boyfriend is loose and either dead or on the run and more and more has been coming out about this young couple's final weeks together.

It's been an odd set of circumstances all around. Even Dog the Bounty Hunter was seen knocking on the door of the parents' house.

[Velvet]

I am trying to figure out why this particular case is national news?

Perhaps because like “Forensic Files” that was a hit on tv for the longest time, and “The First 48”, murder mysteries seem to catch our attention.

[JMintzer]

Missing white woman syndrome - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_white_woman_syndrome)

Keep bangin' that drum!

[tvbound]

Even if one were to hold their palms so tightly to their ears that no sound can penetrate, doesn't mean the drum isn't still banging.

[JMintzer]

Even if one were to hold their palms so tightly to their ears that no sound can penetrate, doesn't mean the drum isn't still banging.

Yet you completely ignore the fact that the very same media completely ignores it when the police shoot someone NOT of color...

How tight are you holding your palms to your ears?

[tvbound]

Yet you completely ignore the fact that the very same media completely ignores it when the police shoot someone NOT of color...

How tight are you holding your palms to your ears?

Tell me how you have even the faintest clue as to what I pay attention to, or ignore, particularly since you are dead wrong - again? I care about anyone, who is unarmed, not a threat to anyone else and is shot/killed/injured by inept, biased or poorly trained LEO's. Especially those shot in the back, or with their hands up, which on % basis - happens to those of color more. I also strongly support the vast majority of good law enforcement people, who do a wonderful, often thankless job. Anyway, the question was asked why this case has received so much attention and I provided a link to the answer, which by a number of posts in this thread - has proved it to be correct. You can have the last words.

[JMintzer]

Tell me how you have even the faintest clue as to what I pay attention to, or ignore, particularly since you are dead wrong - again? I care about anyone, who is unarmed, not a threat to anyone else and is shot/killed/injured by inept, biased or poorly trained LEO's. Especially those shot in the back, or with their hands up, which on % basis - happens to those of color more. I also strongly support the vast majority of good law enforcement people, who do a wonderful, often thankless job. Anyway, the question was asked why this case has received so much attention and I provided a link to the answer, which by a number of posts in this thread - has proved it to be correct. You can have the last words.

Well, since I asked you a very specific question on a specific topic, several times, and you've yet to answer said question, one can only surmise you don't care about that topic...

Show me how I'm wrong...

And to your point. ONE guy was shot in the back, and the cop was prosecuted and found guilty. And who was shot "with their hands up"?

And since we're talking percentages, who commits the vast majority of murders, despite being a small percentage of the population?

Which percentage of the population has a much higher percentage of police contacts (most due to their neighbors/spouses calling said police)?

More police contacts, more chances of things going sideways...

And your Wiki link? Gimme a break...

[graciegirl]

I am still avidly watching for developments in the search for Brian Laundrie. Does anyone else think he might be hiding in The Ocala Forest? It is huge and there are many homeless people who live there and he could perhaps alter his looks and blend in?

Does anyone think his parents are innocent of helping him vanish?

I do not think so.

Google the camping map for the Ocala Forest. This is such a large public area with all kinds of places to camp and FRESH Water..........Do you think that taking the cap camper on that trip before he reported her missing was a way to find a remote area and "stock him up"????

[KAM+6]

I am still avidly watching for developments in the search for Brian Laundrie. Does anyone else think he might be hiding in The Ocala Forest? It is huge and there are many homeless people who live there and he could perhaps alter his looks and blend in?

Does anyone think his parents are innocent of helping him vanish?

I do not think so.

Google the camping map for the Ocala Forest. This is such a large public area with all kinds of places to camp and FRESH Water..........Do you think that taking the cap camper on that trip before he reported her missing was a way to find a remote area and "stock him up"????

I'm not following it closely, in fact I'm sick of it. Don't understand why the media is giving it so much repeated coverage. There are hundreds of missing people.

If I am correct, Brian left with a back pack, no car or money. Just how far can be get. They should just put a reward on him instead of spending millions on searching forests and swamps.

[TNKYGAL]

I am still avidly watching for developments in the search for Brian Laundrie. Does anyone else think he might be hiding in The Ocala Forest? It is huge and there are many homeless people who live there and he could perhaps alter his looks and blend in?

Does anyone think his parents are innocent of helping him vanish?

I do not think so.

Google the camping map for the Ocala Forest. This is such a large public area with all kinds of places to camp and FRESH Water..........Do you think that taking the cap camper on that trip before he reported her missing was a way to find a remote area and "stock him up"????

I am following this case, too Gracie. I sure hope they find him soon.

I also do NOT think his parents are innocent of helping him. I just hope that the truth is found (I believe it eventually will be) and that justice will be served (which unfortunately, could be questionable). Time will tell.

[ex34449]

Covid turned everyone into overnight virus experts. This poor girls death is turning everyone into homicide detectives.
Sadly what is seen all too often is the media (which combined knows very little but how to spin) has yet to remind anyone that in this country, you are innocent until proven guilty. Reminds me of the towns people in "Frankenstein". Torch anyone?

[Escape Artist]

Sadly what is seen all too often is the media (which combined knows very little but how to spin) has yet to remind anyone that in this country, you are innocent until proven guilty. Reminds me of the towns people in "Frankenstein". Torch anyone?

Except Frankenstein's monster was guilty, as he had killed a couple of people including a little girl, albeit inadvertently. Great movie, though (the 1931 version). Unbelievable production values and make-up for that time. Karloff was amazing as the Monster. Also loved the sequel "Bride of Frankenstein". :icon_wink:

[Taltarzac725]

Covid turned everyone into overnight virus experts. This poor girls death is turning everyone into homicide detectives.
Sadly what is seen all too often is the media (which combined knows very little but how to spin) has yet to remind anyone that in this country, you are innocent until proven guilty. Reminds me of the towns people in "Frankenstein". Torch anyone?

And even then they sometimes get it wrong especially when the community seems to have a need for closure and some sad case lets the real killer get away with it. Critical thinking is crucial as it taking things with a grain of salt especially when television ratings are thrown into the mix.

Great movie IMHO about the media gone amok is Kirk Douglas' Ace in the Hole Ace in the Hole (1951 film - Wikipedia) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ace_in_the_Hole_(1951_film)).


Dave Kehr in the Chicago Reader called it "cold, lurid, and fascinating"[18] and Nathan Lee of The Village Voice wrote, "Here is, half a century out of the past, a movie so acidly au courant it stings."[19]

Time Out London wrote, "As a diatribe against all that is worst in human nature, it has moments dipped in pure vitriol."[20] TV Guide called it "a searing example of writer-director Billy Wilder at his most brilliantly misanthropic" and adds, "An uncompromising portrait of human nature at its worst, the film . . . stands as one of the great American films of the 1950s."[21]

[ex34449]

Except Frankenstein's monster was guilty, as he had killed a couple of people including a little girl, albeit inadvertently. Great movie, though (the 1931 version). Unbelievable production values and make-up for that time. Karloff was amazing as the Monster. Also loved the sequel "Bride of Frankenstein". :icon_wink:

I prefer the Mel Brooks version. The lack of humanity was more a joke.

[ex34449]

And even then they sometimes get it wrong especially when the community seems to have a need for closure and some sad case lets the real killer get away with it. Critical thinking is crucial as it taking things with a grain of salt especially when television ratings are thrown into the mix.

Great movie IMHO about the media gone amok is Kirk Douglas' Ace in the Hole Ace in the Hole (1951 film - Wikipedia) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ace_in_the_Hole_(1951_film)).

Watching a movie like that would have me heading to the Skyway on a one way trip.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

I recently watched ace in the hole again it still holds up

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

I saw that the Dog joined the search brought back a memory of my sister passing , she contracted an infection during hip surgery that they just couldn’t stop and this was in the best hospital in Boston , well anyway it was November and my sister lived for a couple of weeks , she knew I was going to be in Hawaii for winter, she loved the Dog I had only seen him a couple of times she told me a few times if you see the dog tell him hi , well on on one of my walks on my way up to diamond head ,, I saw them filming a scene , well I told the dog about my sister and a tear ran down his face , he hollered to get Beth and then the whole cast joined hands and Dog said a prayer for my sister , she would have loved that

[Gulfcoast]

I am still avidly watching for developments in the search for Brian Laundrie. Does anyone else think he might be hiding in The Ocala Forest? It is huge and there are many homeless people who live there and he could perhaps alter his looks and blend in?

Does anyone think his parents are innocent of helping him vanish?

I do not think so.

Google the camping map for the Ocala Forest. This is such a large public area with all kinds of places to camp and FRESH Water..........Do you think that taking the cap camper on that trip before he reported her missing was a way to find a remote area and "stock him up"????

I think that he could very well be hiding out in the Ocala Forest. And I also think that his parents could very well have stocked him up with provisions and likely planned to visit him/bring him supplies. They vastly underestimated the amount of attention that they would all be getting. They are not as free to come and go unnoticed as they thought they'd be. He might resort to thieving from campsites for supplies.

I don't think he's in the Carlton Preserve. If he went there at all it was to get rid of evidence. But he, himself, isn't there.

[Taltarzac725]

I recently watched ace in the hole again it still holds up

That it does.

[Velvet]

So … reports say she was strangled while camping Grand Teton Park Aug 27-30 while with her companion Laundrie, and his parents who he went camping with later, say they know nothing, nor where he is etc.

[tvbound]

As a parent, I completely understand and feel "unconditional love." As a law abiding citizen, I also understand the need for crimes, particularly murders, to be solved and the culprits punished. The two are not mutually exclusive, as there are many criminals that are still loved by their parents. While there may still be a (remote) chance that Laundrie is not the murderer, the actions (or more precisely, 'inaction') of his parents and himself to date - doesn't help his cause. It's also not much of a leap to imagine, given what has been reported, that he has been over-coddled by his parents his entire life and might think they will do anything to protect him. In all honesty though, I'm also pretty confused as to the relationship between Gabby and her parents. I'm just hoping that justice for Gabby, will eventually prevail - whatever that turns out to be.

[Escape Artist]

As a parent, I completely understand and feel "unconditional love." As a law abiding citizen, I also understand the need for crimes, particularly murders, to be solved and the culprits punished. The two are not mutually exclusive, as there are many criminals that are still loved by their parents. While there may still be a (remote) chance that Laundrie is not the murderer, the actions (or more precisely, 'inaction') of his parents and himself to date - doesn't help his cause. It's also not much of a leap to imagine, given what has been reported, that he has been over-coddled by his parents his entire life and might think they will do anything to protect him. In all honesty though, I'm also pretty confused as to the relationship between Gabby and her parents. I'm just hoping that justice for Gabby, will eventually prevail - whatever that turns out to be.

Many murderers are sociopaths, but not all sociopaths are murderers. A proclivity to violence is not a trait they all have. Sociopaths can be very convincing in their sincerity even with those who "know" them well. They are adept liars and can summon their emotions at the drop of a hat, especially crying/tears. They lack is empathy for others and feelings or guilt or remorse for the pain they cause, which makes them ideal killers. They also tend to be smart and often times, charming and can present a likable facade.

[Taltarzac725]

Many murderers are sociopaths, but not all sociopaths are murderers. A proclivity to violence is not a trait they all have. Sociopaths can be very convincing in their sincerity even with those who "know" them well. They are adept liars and can summon their emotions at the drop of a hat, especially crying/tears. They lack is empathy for others and feelings or guilt or remorse for the pain they cause, which makes them ideal killers. They also tend to be smart and often times, charming and can present a likable facade.

I worked with prisoners and former inmates while in law school. These were mostly at Minnesota Correctional Facility-Stillwater. This is probably the largest prison in Minnesota.

One of my clients beat and did other very violent things to his wife. He did seem to be rather disliked by the other prisoners just judging by their body language and the like I noticed when I visited him at Stillwater. And the judge and others I interacted with on his behalf seemed to loathe this man. He did seem like a very poor excuse of a human being and his criminal history bore that out.

Anyway, it is hard to generalize what might have happened from scant individual facts. And so far I have not seen anything to suggest that this man in the news, Brian Laundrie, is a sociopath. He might just have lost it in a fit of rage caused by what looks like mental health problems of both Gabby Petito and her boyfriend.

[manaboutown]

If he killed her he should be executed ASAP!

[Velvet]

Hubby says, Laundrie is dead. He is too much of a coward. Well, let’s see if hubby is right?

[Taltarzac725]

Hubby says, Laundrie is dead. He is too much of a coward. Well, let’s see if hubby is right?

The facts do seem to suggest that he took his own life. He does not seem to have the resources to have had other things to do like leave the country or go into very deep and long term hiding. And the very real possibility that he murdered his girlfriend would be a very heavy burden for him to carry even if he was mentally ill when he did it.

[Eg_cruz]

Yet you completely ignore the fact that the very same media completely ignores it when the police shoot someone NOT of color...

How tight are you holding your palms to your ears?
So true

[DaleDivine]

I think that he could very well be hiding out in the Ocala Forest. And I also think that his parents could very well have stocked him up with provisions and likely planned to visit him/bring him supplies. They vastly underestimated the amount of attention that they would all be getting. They are not as free to come and go unnoticed as they thought they'd be. He might resort to thieving from campsites for supplies.

I don't think he's in the Carlton Preserve. If he went there at all it was to get rid of evidence. But he, himself, isn't there.

I'm sure the law is watching and listening to everything his parents are doing.
With the thousands of missing people, why are they so focused on making this a national media event.
:ohdear::ohdear::bigbow:

[spd2918]

The kid might be at mommy and daddy's house after all...

The wife just heard a drone pilot report on the radio. The pilot saw a hand poking out of a hatch cover on the property, possibly from a bunker or cellar.

[Taltarzac725]

Timeline of Gabby Petito case - CNN (https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/16/us/gabby-petito-timeline-missing-case/index.html)

Time will tell what actually happened in all of this.

[Escape Artist]

I worked with prisoners and former inmates while in law school. These were mostly at Minnesota Correctional Facility-Stillwater. This is probably the largest prison in Minnesota.

One of my clients beat and did other very violent things to his wife. He did seem to be rather disliked by the other prisoners just judging by their body language and the like I noticed when I visited him at Stillwater. And the judge and others I interacted with on his behalf seemed to loathe this man. He did seem like a very poor excuse of a human being and his criminal history bore that out.

Anyway, it is hard to generalize what might have happened from scant individual facts. And so far I have not seen anything to suggest that this man in the news, Brian Laundrie, is a sociopath. He might just have lost it in a fit of rage caused by what looks like mental health problems of both Gabby Petito and her boyfriend.

Aside from this case, which I know little about, sociopaths are a fairly common personality disorder. They estimate 1 in 25 have it but often times it goes undiagnosed because they can lead normal lives without interfacing with the law and the like. But as you suggested, he may have just snapped and committed a heinous crime. It can even happen to those without any mental health issues.

[tvbound]

Remains found today, along with some of Laundrie's personal items, so there's a likely chance it's him. His parents just happened to also resume searching in the same area again today, right before the remains were found, so what a coincidence. While I have a certain amount of empathy for any parent(s) who loses a child, their behavior/actions during this entire sordid ordeal has left a really bitter taste in my mouth. Hopefully, he wrote a confession and expressed great regret, but even that - wouldn't be nearly enough for me.

[Taltarzac725]

Sounds like the parents had a good idea where their son might be hiding but it was under water or something like that. If he had lost it and killed someone he was deeply in love with I can understand him taking his own life and he probably would have done it at some place he and his beloved would often go. That place might also be known to his friends and parents from social media and other pictures.

[Velvet]

An expected ending. Laundrie found dead.

[Gulfcoast]

Well at least we know where he is now. His parents were telling the truth after all. I just don't understand why they didn't report him missing sooner.