Golf Carts Over Priced

[Michael G.]

For how their constructed and rough ride, you think home use Golf carts are over priced
for what you get for your $$$$$ ??:gc:

[golfing eagles]

For how their constructed and rough ride, you think home use Golf carts are over priced
for what you get for your $$$$$ ??:gc:

a few economic terms apply:

***supply and demand

***what the market will bear

***caveat emptor

[Dana1963]

For how their constructed and rough ride, you think home use Golf carts are over priced
for what you get for your $$$$$ ??:gc:
It makes you wonder the least expensive car is around 16 -18 thousand dollars. Can travel 70mph A/C crash safety tested can carry 4 people fairly comfortably. Most golf carts start at $12,000, 20-25 mph meagerly equipped.

[graciegirl]

It makes you wonder the least expensive car is around 16 -18 thousand dollars. Can travel 70mph A/C crash safety tested can carry 4 people fairly comfortably. Most golf carts start at $12,000, 20-25 mph meagerly equipped.

To coin a phrase or two;

a few economic terms apply:

***supply and demand

***what the market will bear

***caveat emptor

[Dana1963]

To coin a phrase or two;

a few economic terms apply:

***supply and demand

***what the market will bear

***caveat emptor
That quote was already used by “golfing eagle” let's be original like most comments on comments they just keep repeating in your case it's identical

[tvbound]

Even 6 or 7 years ago, we were shocked about the prices of new ones. There must be a huge markup/profit built in.

[UpNorth]

Considering that a nice 18hp John Deere lawn tractor can be bought for around $3000, Paying 6x that amount for something with 2 seats and an engine seems excessive to me. Yes, I know there are differences. Do it with batteries and an electric motor and the prices seem even crazier.

[graciegirl]

That quote was already used by “golfing eagle” let's be original like most comments on comments they just keep repeating in your case it's identical

That's what it means to "coin a phrase".

I absolutely agreed with Dr. Eagle's post. Every single word of it.
And so I repeated it.

[JMintzer]

That's what it means to "coin a phrase".

I absolutely agreed with Dr. Eagle's post. Every single word of it.
And so I repeated it.

Um... No...

To coin a phrase means to "invent a new saying or idiomatic expression that is new or unique."

[Topspinmo]

For how their constructed and rough ride, you think home use Golf carts are over priced
for what you get for your $$$$$ ??:gc:

Agree, that’s why I didn’t by new one. Even my 2012 1/2 village special listed for $13,995.00. I paid little less than half 6 years ago. Basic golf cart I guessing around 7 to 8 grand. Now add the extra’s (village ready) like lights, bigger tire wheels, enclosure, plush seats, speedometer, basket, custom paint. All that adds up from 8 grand to 14 grand or more now? You can get cheaper villages ready cart off campus, but the extra’s may not be as plush.

My cart still runs like new with around 14K miles. I expect it to outlast me.

[John_W]

I bought a new Yamaha Drive from TV at LSL in 2011, I still have the cart and have never had any trouble, never needed repair. At the time I priced a new Yamaha gas with no extras at a dealer in Kentucky (Cunningham Carts) for $5,900, the only upgrade was it had headlights and tail lights. They would deliver I believe for $300. Then I would have to add Sunbrella curtains, a cooler, upgraded seats, 10" tires and nicer wheels, floor mats, sand bottle, pinstriping, rearview mirrors and I wanted a black roof.

I went to LSL Villages store and got all that brand new for $10,300, so you can see prices have gone up a lot in ten years. The Ultimate Seats ($1500), they're similar to the El Tigre they sell now, in fact they're made in the same factory. The black roof at that time they had to remove the roof and spray paint it on both sides ($300), now I believe they come from the factory with the plastic roofs already colored, not painted.

In the ten years I've owned the cart I've changed the folddown windshield to a tinted windshield that flips outward on the bottom ($199) a second sand bottle, an extra insulted 12 pack cooler ($100), a ball & club washer, a AM/FM/CD overhead radio console, a fan, a cigarette lighter which I use to plug in the fan and a dashcam, a solid rubber floor mat, Liquid LED lights over the headlights and tail lights and all along the side, an overhead shelf in the back I use to store towels. Just two weeks ago I added diamond plated rocker sills, diamond kick guard and diamond plate foot pedals.

At the prices they're asking within TV now, you can still check out of state, places in Alabama and Kentucky, all on the internet and ship the cart here. Also at I-4 Power Equipment in Webster about 20 miles south they're $2,000 cheaper. You don't have to buy from TV just because it's new.

PS - I almost forgot. In an effort to make the cart more quiet like the new Yamahas, I ordered a 25' roll of car engine hood insulation. It's 5/8" rubber that's very sticky on one side and silver foil on the other. I did as much of the engine compartment as I could and even put two layers on the bottom of my Ultimate Seats. It will never be as quiet as the new ones since the bottom is not enclosed. However, I'm not sure that's a good thing to have the engine completely sealed, I don't see how they can get any cooling. I heard it's pretty normal to reach 170 degrees and even higher in the newer carts. I've very happy with my 2011.


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[graciegirl]

to coin a phrase
[to coin a phrase]
DEFINITION
said ironically when introducing a banal remark or cliché.
"I had to find out the hard way—to coin a phrase"
said when introducing a new expression or a variation on a familiar one.

eaning of to coin a phrase in English

to coin a phrase
humorous

something you say before using an expression that has been very popular or used too much:
I was, to coin a phrase, gobsmacked!

[Shbullet]

to coin a phrase
[to coin a phrase]
DEFINITION
said ironically when introducing a banal remark or cliché.
"I had to find out the hard way—to coin a phrase"
said when introducing a new expression or a variation on a familiar one.

eaning of to coin a phrase in English

to coin a phrase
humorous

something you say before using an expression that has been very popular or used too much:
I was, to coin a phrase, gobsmacked!

GG your reply sounds like a time that you shouldnt have replied.

[jswirs]

a few economic terms apply:

***supply and demand

***what the market will bear

***caveat emptor

Which is why I have taken steps to my the theft of our cart more difficult.
And, I advise others to do the same.

[Black Beauty]

Inflation is here..big time

[midiwiz]

It makes you wonder the least expensive car is around 16 -18 thousand dollars. Can travel 70mph A/C crash safety tested can carry 4 people fairly comfortably. Most golf carts start at $12,000, 20-25 mph meagerly equipped.

if you build on on the Yamaha site similarly equipped as Village GC it's roughly $2000 less than their base price which is over $12K ... the place on 441 is also $2k less but added options aka "the package" is also a bit different.

also as everyone already knows you are in T.V. if you want to pay less for practically anything you better shop far away from here.

[Jewelz]

John_W SO glad you're back....you have been missed!!!!

[donfey]

Inflation is here..big time

FINALLY, someone commented on the fact that the money isn't "worth" as much as it was just a few years ago. It's gonna get worse.

[MidWestIA]

wish I could take a JD gator on a golf course

[Luggage]

So many people have big egos and must buy new. The golf cart we have, we bought about 20 years ago used for $2,000 and is perfectly fine, of course we've gone through several sets of batteries and in today's market we could probably sell it for what we paid or more. If you go through a retailer in The villages they are going to make a 100% markup from their cost, if you travel down the road and buy something two or three years old you can probably say 50% and buy a two or three year old cart that was used as a golf cart and rental on a course. For a laugh, go to a farm store and check out an ATV price or what a tractor cost !

[Girlcopper]

Which is why I have taken steps to my the theft of our cart more difficult.
And, I advise others to do the same.
I would think extra steps would be taken for any property to be protected against theft

[merrymini]

We bought an electric golf cart, new, about 7 years ago and paid about $8K. Runs like a dream and I got to pick the color! Never going for the high priced stuff.

[Dantes]

Buy out of the area save thousands

[banjobob]

Grossly overpriced ,as is the service on them , not a sin to make a profit .

[Driver8]

I think The Villages should develop a drag strip and road course for golf carts.

[Road-Runner]

I think The Villages should develop a drag strip and road course for golf carts. Best idea I've read yet! All you'd need for the road course is a bunch of traffic cones and an empty parking lot! Cart-o-Cross anyone?

[armywrestle]

Looking for suggestions for have radio/sound system installed on cart.

Thanks in advance.

[MrFlorida]

Buy away (out of state) and have it shipped here, we in TV are a captive audience, and everyone must have one, of course they know that, and can charge what they want.

[Larchap49]

I bought a new Yamaha Drive from TV at LSL in 2011, I still have the cart and have never had any trouble, never needed repair. At the time I priced a new Yamaha gas with no extras at a dealer in Kentucky (Cunningham Carts) for $5,900, the only upgrade was it had headlights and tail lights. They would deliver I believe for $300. Then I would have to add Sunbrella curtains, a cooler, upgraded seats, 10" tires and nicer wheels, floor mats, sand bottle, pinstriping, rearview mirrors and I wanted a black roof.

I went to LSL Villages store and got all that brand new for $10,300, so you can see prices have gone up a lot in ten years. The Ultimate Seats ($1500), they're similar to the El Tigre they sell now, in fact they're made in the same factory. The black roof at that time they had to remove the roof and spray paint it on both sides ($300), now I believe they come from the factory with the plastic roofs already colored, not painted.

In the ten years I've owned the cart I've changed the folddown windshield to a tinted windshield that flips outward on the bottom ($199) a second sand bottle, an extra insulted 12 pack cooler ($100), a ball & club washer, a AM/FM/CD overhead radio console, a fan, a cigarette lighter which I use to plug in the fan and a dashcam, a solid rubber floor mat, Liquid LED lights over the headlights and tail lights and all along the side, an overhead shelf in the back I use to store towels. Just two weeks ago I added diamond plated rocker sills, diamond kick guard and diamond plate foot pedals.

At the prices they're asking within TV now, you can still check out of state, places in Alabama and Kentucky, all on the internet and ship the cart here. Also at I-4 Power Equipment in Webster about 20 miles south they're $2,000 cheaper. You don't have to buy from TV just because it's new.

PS - I almost forgot. In an effort to make the cart more quiet like the new Yamahas, I ordered a 25' roll of car engine hood insulation. It's 5/8" rubber that's very sticky on one side and silver foil on the other. I did as much of the engine compartment as I could and even put two layers on the bottom of my Ultimate Seats. It will never be as quiet as the new ones since the bottom is not enclosed. However, I'm not sure that's a good thing to have the engine completely sealed, I don't see how they can get any cooling. I heard it's pretty normal to reach 170 degrees and even higher in the newer carts. I've very happy with my 2011.



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Part of what makes the new carts quiet besides the exhaust being closed in is the spark arrester. When my new cart started bogging down or chugging on acceleration after it was restarted when hot. Service dept said it was because the spark arrester restricted the exhaust and made the engine run hotter causing the gas to vaporize in the fuel line, (called vapor lock) they also said eventually it would plug up and cause a loss of power, eventually to the point where it would barley move.
Mine was already losing power on the up hill grades after tunnels. They removed the arrester and that did cure the problems but the cart is noticeably louder now. I guess that is the trade off.

[BostonRich]

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I would think a DYI golf car kit would be great. There really isn't a lot to them and if you eliminate the labor, how much can the parts cost?

[DAVES]

Inflation is here..big time

Cause and effect. A golf cart is not a need but a desire. Simple options, don't buy one, buy a used one.

With all the new ones being sold, somewhere there must be a junk yard selling golf carts.
Not far from my previous home, there was a boat yard and they always had boats offered for free. If, you want it get it out of our way. No I never did it.

[chenault55]

For how their constructed and rough ride, you think home use Golf carts are over priced
for what you get for your $$$$$ ??:gc:

I’ve been saying that for years! You could just about buy a small car with air, radio etc yet we’ve bought 3 in 12 years and that’s how they get away with it. I feel a little less intelligent each time. There needs to be a support group and a boycott to get free of this terrible decision making!🤔🧐😱🤪

[Captainpd]

Which is why I have taken steps to my the theft of our cart more difficult.
And, I advise others to do the same.

If a thief wants your golf cart, you can't stop him. All those little cute anti theft devices are useless against professionals.

[b0bd0herty]

Um... No...

To coin a phrase means to "invent a new saying or idiomatic expression that is new or unique."

to coin a phrase

DEFINITION
said ironically when introducing a banal remark or cliché.
"I had to find out the hard way—to coin a phrase"
said when introducing a new expression or a variation on a familiar one

[Michael G.]

Buy out of the area save thousands

And pay back thousands trying to get it serviced.

[Vermilion Villager]

And pay back thousands trying to get it serviced.
I thought that might be true and called The Villages Golf Cars in Brownwood. I told them I had a golf car that needed service but was not bought there. They said "bring it in!":coolsmiley:

[OhioBuckeye]

For how their constructed and rough ride, you think home use Golf carts are over priced
for what you get for your $$$$$ ??:gc:

I went to a couple of places where they were suppose to be cheaper & they were no less, you had to pick your options out of a book. I ended up getting mine at Colony Cottage & got a better deal money wise & got more options for free here. There’s 70,000
golf carts in TV, so they aren’t that expensive. You could buy a used one but then you don’t know what you’re getting!

[John_W]

Looking for suggestions for have radio/sound system installed on cart.

Thanks in advance.

eBay is full of overhead radio consoles for golf carts priced from about $80 for a empty console to about $169 to $450 for those with radios and speakers installed. Here's a link.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2060353.m570.l1313&_nkw=golf+cart+overhead+radio+console&_sacat=0

I wanted a CD player in mine and those with a CD are about $450 on eBay, so I bought a blank empty overhead console for about $80 on eBay, you'll see them at that link. I went to Walmart in Leesburg and bought a JVC radio AM/FM/CD for $79 and a pair of Pioneer speakers there for $42. Put the items in the console and attached it to the ceiling of my cart with 4 bolts I drilled through the roof. Bought a roof antenna on eBay for $17 and drilled a hole about a foot behind the radio and connected the antenna to the radio. Then ran two wires from the radio to my battery. I took the wires down one of the support posts behind my seat straight to the battery using tie-wraps. One wire was a negative and one to the positive. Took about two hours to install, I was taking my time. Here's a photo at the link.

https://scontent-mia3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/194284571_1955207201310469_8509801502140216162_n.j pg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=ahkbQlRls7wAX9XMXW0&_nc_ht=scontent-mia3-2.xx&oh=c542fea01f258d1ae1d83c55e9686e11&oe=616EB7E2

The reason I have black duct tape above the radio is because there is about a 1/2" gap due to the curvature of the roof and I got a slight rattle when I turned the radio loud. I filled the gap with spray foam and to hide the ugliness of the foam, I put black duct tape over the foam.

I installed this about year ago and works perfect. Some say don't install a CD player it will skip, mine doesn't skip at all. You'll find radios with XM capability, I have XM in my car but I didn't want to spend $6 a month with XM for a second radio. I only drive my cart when I play golf.

The easiest way to get music to your cart is if you have a smart phone with unlimited data, just get a bluetooth speaker. I have a neighbor who runs Spotify or XM through a bluetooth, and he has a big boom box type bluetooth speaker mounted on the dash against the windshield and I can hear it at my house about 100' away.

[tophcfa]

I agree that there has to be a large profit margin for what one gets in a golf cart. That being said, if you try to buy a new golf cart these days you will quickly find out they are very short on inventory and you will most likely be waiting months before your purchase is actually available. Basic supply and demand economics results in higher prices when supply is limited and demand is strong. For us, it’s hard to not want really nice golf carts in the Villages, we use them almost exclusively, our car can sit for weeks at a time without moving. Sometimes I take the car out for a ride for no other reason than to circulate some fresh gas through the fuel delivery system and prevent the tires from getting flat spots. I really want to upgrade our perfectly fine 2014 Yamaha EFI to a new quiet-tech, so our aging backs can benefit from the fully independent rear suspension, but I am too cheap to justify a $10,000 upgrade for only one feature I desire that’s not in our 2014. Drive on : )

[New Englander]

I bought a new Yamaha Drive from TV at LSL in 2011, I still have the cart and have never had any trouble, never needed repair. At the time I priced a new Yamaha gas with no extras at a dealer in Kentucky (Cunningham Carts) for $5,900, the only upgrade was it had headlights and tail lights. They would deliver I believe for $300. Then I would have to add Sunbrella curtains, a cooler, upgraded seats, 10" tires and nicer wheels, floor mats, sand bottle, pinstriping, rearview mirrors and I wanted a black roof.

I went to LSL Villages store and got all that brand new for $10,300, so you can see prices have gone up a lot in ten years. The Ultimate Seats ($1500), they're similar to the El Tigre they sell now, in fact they're made in the same factory. The black roof at that time they had to remove the roof and spray paint it on both sides ($300), now I believe they come from the factory with the plastic roofs already colored, not painted.

In the ten years I've owned the cart I've changed the folddown windshield to a tinted windshield that flips outward on the bottom ($199) a second sand bottle, an extra insulted 12 pack cooler ($100), a ball & club washer, a AM/FM/CD overhead radio console, a fan, a cigarette lighter which I use to plug in the fan and a dashcam, a solid rubber floor mat, Liquid LED lights over the headlights and tail lights and all along the side, an overhead shelf in the back I use to store towels. Just two weeks ago I added diamond plated rocker sills, diamond kick guard and diamond plate foot pedals.

At the prices they're asking within TV now, you can still check out of state, places in Alabama and Kentucky, all on the internet and ship the cart here. Also at I-4 Power Equipment in Webster about 20 miles south they're $2,000 cheaper. You don't have to buy from TV just because it's new.

PS - I almost forgot. In an effort to make the cart more quiet like the new Yamahas, I ordered a 25' roll of car engine hood insulation. It's 5/8" rubber that's very sticky on one side and silver foil on the other. I did as much of the engine compartment as I could and even put two layers on the bottom of my Ultimate Seats. It will never be as quiet as the new ones since the bottom is not enclosed. However, I'm not sure that's a good thing to have the engine completely sealed, I don't see how they can get any cooling. I heard it's pretty normal to reach 170 degrees and even higher in the newer carts. I've very happy with my 2011.


.

Glad to see you back on our Forum!

[graciegirl]

John W. is back. Yayyyyy.

I like this post from Dave.

"Cause and effect. A golf cart is not a need but a desire. Simple options, don't buy one."


If you don't spend money you still have it.

It is important to understand that when people are selling things, they are looking to make money and they will sell it at the highest price they can. Wouldn't you?

[TNKYGAL]

GG your reply sounds like a time that you shouldnt have replied.

As a retired teacher, this piqued my curiosity so I looked up the origin and definition of the phrase "to coin a term." While it did, indeed, originally come from the industry of making money and referred to inventing an original phrase, it is now more commonly used to refer to repeating a popular and/or overused (cliche) phrase. It only takes a couple minutes of research to discover that you are both correct. But IMHO, GG's agreement with and quoting GE didn't deserve an admonition. It surely did nothing to contribute to the thread!

[JMintzer]

One option is to buy used. Although that is getting more and more expensive, of late. Most likely due to the lack of availability of new carts...

I found a really nice cart this summer, with upgraded seats, for a reasonable price. The seller included all service records (which were up to date) and I'm good to go.

I'll drive it when I'm in TV land part time for now and eventually I'll sell it and maybe lose a few bucks... Then, I'll find a newer used cart that meets my needs...

I learned, years ago, when buying and selling guitars, "Buy used and play for free"...

[NoMoSno]

If a thief wants your golf cart, you can't stop him. All those little cute anti theft devices are useless against professionals.
That's true...if they want it they will get it.
However if two carts are sitting side by side, one with no anti-theft device and the other with a visible anti-theft device which one do you think they will take?

[D.Bolen]

I thought that might be true and called The Villages Golf Cars in Brownwood. I told them I had a golf car that needed service but was not bought there. They said "bring it in!":coolsmiley:

Villages Golf Cars' willingness to service cars not purchased from them may fluctuate depending on how busy their technicians are (or perhaps depending on other varying factors). Last year I was checking out cars at the Lake Sumter location and personally witnessed (saw and overheard) a mature-looking gentleman who drove in his non-villages car for service being told that they would not service his golf car because he had not purchased it from them (the car owner was surprised and pretty upset BTW). The incident gave me pause and caused me to consider whether it would be worth the extra $$ to purchase from them to ensure reliable local service.

[jimjamuser]

Considering that a nice 18hp John Deere lawn tractor can be bought for around $3000, Paying 6x that amount for something with 2 seats and an engine seems excessive to me. Yes, I know there are differences. Do it with batteries and an electric motor and the prices seem even crazier.
I prefer electric golf carts for their quiet, reliability, and the gifts to clean air that they bring to the table! Someone will say that they are unreliable - but electrical motors always require less downtime and maintenance than their infernal combustion engine counterparts. Think about it this way - electrical motors have a continuous circular motion. Gas engines have several pistons FLAILING about up and down - the pistons start then stop and reverse over and over causing maximum friction. One motor is SMOOTH and quiet the other is LOUD, VIBRATES, BELCHES SMOKE, and is hard to maintain.
And several very intelligent posters have mentioned "supply and demand" as determinates of price. True....... .....not counting any area cartel-like MONOPOLIES or price gouging and excess profits - which may or may not be going on in TV Land. On the DEMAND side for electrical golr carts.......if DEMAND increased - prices EVENTUALLY would be driven downward - and supply would INCREASE.
In a perfect capital market system TV Land would have greater choice for both gas and electric vehicles - and let the BETTER product win! And remember when you buy a GAS car or golf cart you INDIRECTLY reward the MIDDLE EAST - WHILE hurting your grandchild lungs by way of the less clean air that they will breathe.

[UpNorth]

Villages Golf Cars' willingness to service cars not purchased from them may fluctuate depending on how busy their technicians are (or perhaps depending on other varying factors). Last year I was checking out cars at the Lake Sumter location and personally witnessed (saw and overheard) a mature-looking gentleman who drove in his non-villages car for service being told that they would not service his golf car because he had not purchased it from them (the car owner was surprised and pretty upset BTW). The incident gave me pause and caused me to consider whether it would be worth the extra $$ to purchase from them to ensure reliable local service.

I would think that if the cart was under warranty, any "authorized dealer" would be required to service it. Out of warranty, and you would have to find an independent service agent to do the work. There seems to be plenty of these around TV.

[Black Beauty]

The cart we bought last fall has gone up a grand!

[Red Rose]

We bought a brand new cart, fully loaded at LSL and could not be happier. We love our nice, quiet gas Yamaha cart and we can drive from Mallory to Fenney area with gas to spare. Whatever makes you happy in life is what you should do. Enjoy it while you can. Amen.

[pgettinger01]

A year ago the prices were about $1,500 less expensive.

[Topspinmo]

I think The Villages should develop a drag strip and road course for golf carts.


We have one called MMP.

[Topspinmo]

I prefer electric golf carts for their quiet, reliability, and the gifts to clean air that they bring to the table! Someone will say that they are unreliable - but electrical motors always require less downtime and maintenance than their infernal combustion engine counterparts. Think about it this way - electrical motors have a continuous circular motion. Gas engines have several pistons FLAILING about up and down - the pistons start then stop and reverse over and over causing maximum friction. One motor is SMOOTH and quiet the other is LOUD, VIBRATES, BELCHES SMOKE, and is hard to maintain.
And several very intelligent posters have mentioned "supply and demand" as determinates of price. True....... .....not counting any area cartel-like MONOPOLIES or price gouging and excess profits - which may or may not be going on in TV Land. On the DEMAND side for electrical golr carts.......if DEMAND increased - prices EVENTUALLY would be driven downward - and supply would INCREASE.
In a perfect capital market system TV Land would have greater choice for both gas and electric vehicles - and let the BETTER product win! And remember when you buy a GAS car or golf cart you INDIRECTLY reward the MIDDLE EAST - WHILE hurting your grandchild lungs by way of the less clean air that they will breathe.

gifts to clean air

Do you know where residential electric comes from? Everything made from, produced from, and mined from fossil fuels majority of electric produced from fossil fuels. You may feel better but it’s stilll dirty.:welcome:

[Papa_lecki]

gifts to clean air

Do you know where residential electric comes from? Everything made from, produced from, and mined from fossil fuels majority of electric produced from fossil fuels. You may feel better but it’s stilll dirty.:welcome:

Wait til he finds out how they mine the lithium for the batteries.

[Jessedrews]

I bought my 2017 Yamaha from Cunningham in KT, came with the wheels and tires, windshield, turn signal indicators for 8k, then had the enclosure, dashboard, liquid lights, and extras added for 2k at Villages Discount, the equivalent to what TV was charging 13.5k at the time. That was late 2016, saved 3.5k at the time, included shipping to TV.

[JMintzer]

I prefer electric golf carts for their quiet, reliability, and the gifts to clean air that they bring to the table! Someone will say that they are unreliable - but electrical motors always require less downtime and maintenance than their infernal combustion engine counterparts. Think about it this way - electrical motors have a continuous circular motion. Gas engines have several pistons FLAILING about up and down - the pistons start then stop and reverse over and over causing maximum friction. One motor is SMOOTH and quiet the other is LOUD, VIBRATES, BELCHES SMOKE, and is hard to maintain.
And several very intelligent posters have mentioned "supply and demand" as determinates of price. True....... .....not counting any area cartel-like MONOPOLIES or price gouging and excess profits - which may or may not be going on in TV Land. On the DEMAND side for electrical golr carts.......if DEMAND increased - prices EVENTUALLY would be driven downward - and supply would INCREASE.
In a perfect capital market system TV Land would have greater choice for both gas and electric vehicles - and let the BETTER product win! And remember when you buy a GAS car or golf cart you INDIRECTLY reward the MIDDLE EAST - WHILE hurting your grandchild lungs by way of the less clean air that they will breathe.

Who do you think makes the lithium batteries for electric carts?

[Driver8]

I"m there bro!

[Garywt]

Same carts up north are half the price.

[jimjamuser]

gifts to clean air

Do you know where residential electric comes from? Everything made from, produced from, and mined from fossil fuels majority of electric produced from fossil fuels. You may feel better but it’s stilll dirty.:welcome:
It is hard to rationalize bad behavior that leads to bad and really terrible outcomes for ones' future generations. Talk about mining and lithium batteries all you want, but tide generation, solar farms, and wind farms are the FUTURE and the internal combustion engine will be a historic relic like horse-drawn carriages and the steam engine. Get with the program and the future - buy electric vehicles and golf cars!

[JMintzer]

It is hard to rationalize bad behavior that leads to bad and really terrible outcomes for ones' future generations. Talk about mining and lithium batteries all you want, but tide generation, solar farms, and wind farms are the FUTURE and the internal combustion engine will be a historic relic like horse-drawn carriages and the steam engine. Get with the program and the future - buy electric vehicles and golf cars!

Too bad none of those things will power a golf cart...

[Topspinmo]

It is hard to rationalize bad behavior that leads to bad and really terrible outcomes for ones' future generations. Talk about mining and lithium batteries all you want, but tide generation, solar farms, and wind farms are the FUTURE and the internal combustion engine will be a historic relic like horse-drawn carriages and the steam engine. Get with the program and the future - buy electric vehicles and golf cars!


Too bad none is that will happen for another 100 years. We will all be dust. Naturally nothing lasts for ever.

[Papa_lecki]

Too bad none of those things will power a golf cart...

Has anyone researched how they dispose of the windmill turbine blades? Burying them in landfills is great for the environment.
Wind Turbine Blades Can’t Be Recycled, So They’re Piling Up in Landfills - Bloomberg (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2020-02-05/wind-turbine-blades-can-t-be-recycled-so-they-re-piling-up-in-landfills)

[Michael G.]

our car can sit for weeks at a time without moving. Sometimes I take the car out for a ride for no other reason than to circulate some fresh gas through the fuel delivery system and prevent the tires from getting flat spots.

This is one reason I don't have a golf cart.
My Highlander is paid for.
Without a golf cart more room in the garage.
By use my SUV, I prevent the above problem.

And hey, here's the best part, it's air conditioned..........:thumbup:

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

I've always felt that the terms "overpriced" and "overcharging" were absurd.

If something is overpriced, no one would buy it. If a business is not selling enough of an item at a certain price to maintain their business and make a profit, they will lower the price. If they can't make a profit at the lower price, they will stop selling the item or go out of business.

The purpose of a business is to make as much money as possible. Business owners are always looking for that number that will maximize their profits while selling enough of their product.

Overpriced and overcharging are emotional terms. Business is not emotional.

[laboutj]

:bigbow::bigbow:I've always felt that the terms "overpriced" and "overcharging" were absurd.

If something is overpriced, no one would buy it. If a business is not selling enough of an item at a certain price to maintain their business and make a profit, they will lower the price. If they can't make a profit at the lower price, they will stop selling the item or go out of business.

The purpose of a business is to make as much money as possible. Business owners are always looking for that number that will maximize their profits while selling enough of their product.

Overpriced and overcharging are emotional terms. Business is not emotional.

[Dana1963]

Has anyone researched how they dispose of the windmill turbine blades? Burying them in landfills is great for the environment.
Wind Turbine Blades Can’t Be Recycled, So They’re Piling Up in Landfills - Bloomberg (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2020-02-05/wind-turbine-blades-can-t-be-recycled-so-they-re-piling-up-in-landfills)
Life span of a wind turbine blade has a life span of 20-25 years. Germany is already recycling the blades. 90% of wind turbine are recyclable its the fiber gas housing and blades are the 10%. Wish most consumer products cars, washer/dryers, tv’s, fiberglass boats lasted 20 yearsCurrently there are two companies shreading turbine blades in Texas and Iowa adding product to asphalt for road construction along with shreaded tires.

[JMintzer]

This is one reason I don't have a golf cart.
My Highlander is paid for.
Without a golf cart more room in the garage.
By use my SUV, I prevent the above problem.

And hey, here's the best part, it's air conditioned..........:thumbup:

Do you play golf?

[kkingston57]

The cart we bought last fall has gone up a grand!

Correct but in the real world it has only gone up IF you sell it and do not replace it. If it appreciated $1,000 and you sold it you would have 1K in your pocket. If you still need a cart, expect to pay the NEW current market price for the cart, which I suspect would be >1K. Happens in housing all the time.

[Michael G.]

Do you play golf?


Yes, I play at golf, meaning I'm more of a duffer then a golfer.
I play golf at a course were the cart comes with the green fees

[sshepard03]

a few economic terms apply:

***supply and demand

***what the market will bear

***caveat emptor

Well said.
Any product is only worth what a buyer is willing to pay for that product.

[Michael G.]

The purpose of a business is to make as much money as possible. Business owners are always looking for that number that will maximize their profits while selling enough of their product.



To put it another way:
The purpose of a business to STEAL as much as possible for a product that already over priced.

[John_W]

Yes, I play at golf, meaning I'm more of a duffer then a golfer.
I play golf at a course were the cart comes with the green fees

Then you only play off campus? Greenfees in the TV do include a cart, it is $12 to rent a cart for 18 holes. If you're a duffer playing only execs, they don't have carts available unless you park at a nearby championship course and rent a cart there and drive it to the exec.

[dewilson58]

To put it another way:
The purpose of a business to STEAL as much as possible for a product that already over priced.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
Really must use a dictionary.
take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it.

Businesses taking without permission??
Businesses taking without legal right??

I think you are confused.

[TSO/ISPF]

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
Really must use a dictionary.
take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it.

Businesses taking without permission??
Businesses taking without legal right??

I think you are confused.

Hopefully supply will catch up with demand but the developers are keeping demand growing so if you want to spend less on a new golf cart you may have to explore the options of buying elsewhere and having it brought here. It's a free country and you have choices.

[Almanurse1]

I second that! REALLY missed the input from John.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Has anyone researched how they dispose of the windmill turbine blades? Burying them in landfills is great for the environment.
Wind Turbine Blades Can’t Be Recycled, So They’re Piling Up in Landfills - Bloomberg (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2020-02-05/wind-turbine-blades-can-t-be-recycled-so-they-re-piling-up-in-landfills)

Have you stopped using any form of plastic? Have you seen photos of the floating islands of plastic in the oceans that are showing up in our fish food supply?

My point is that the post seems to imply windmill turbines are a major recycling problem, my point is it is trivial compared to our use of plastic, and no one is suggesting we stop that.

BTW, the floating island of plastic trash in the pacific is 1.6 million sq km. About twice the size of Texas, and it's very deep. And there are "islands" in all the other oceans. I would rather deal with figuring out how to convert wind turbine blades into road tops, and stop using disposable plastic.

[Laker14]

it's all about convenience. You want convenience? Open the wallet. I have a friend who just bought in TV. He runs a "junkyard" (his term, not mine), and is no stranger to hard work. He didn't drive up to The Villages Golf Cart and buy a brand new golf cart for 15K. He scoured the internet, found a scrapper, knew how to renovate it, and now has a beautiful cart, at a total cost of around 3K, and several hours of work.
You want to do that? Go ahead. You want to save a few K? Don't buy in the bubble. Want to save a few more K? Expand your search zone. The internet will allow you to do this. It's not convenient, and there is some risk.
If you don't want to do the work or accept that risk, walk in to The Villages Golf Carts showroom, open the wallet, and relax.
You can't have it all on one plate.

[JMintzer]

Even though I found a really nice pre-owned cart back in July (when used carts we being snapped up within hours of being posted), I still check this site, along with "NextDoor", FaceBook Marketplace and Craig's List regularly...

There are very few used carts going up for sale of late.

Where there used to be more than a dozen to choose from, now, there are only a few...

Supply is waaay low and demand keeps growing...

[Laker14]

Even though I found a really nice pre-owned cart back in July (when used carts we being snapped up within hours of being posted), I still check this site, along with "NextDoor", FaceBook Marketplace and Craig's List regularly...

There are very few used carts going up for sale of late.

Where there used to be more than a dozen to choose from, now, there are only a few...

Supply is waaay low and demand keeps growing...

three years ago I was a 3 month renter looking for a rental cart. What I found out was that I could rent a cart but I couldn't get liability insurance for it. I wasn't comfortable with that so I bought a new cart (from the outfit in Webster)...many people, including me, found a certain humor in the idea that I bought a cart before I bought a home but it made sense to me at the time. I now have a home, which we bought last winter, and I'm happy I have that cart. I'm glad I'm not looking right now for one.
Sometimes things work out, even if they don't make much sense at the time. Life is funny that way.