View Full Version : Public Service Announcement - Police Speed Traps
Penglobal
09-25-2021, 12:54 PM
In no way am I encouraging dangerous or unlawful driving habits, but I have noticed several police speed traps, or better known as traffic enforcement areas popping-up within our community. There has been daily speed traps for the past two weeks on Warm Spring Avenue near Meggison Road which is just north of the Florida Turnpike. There has been increased police traffic enforcement during the weekdays and primarily during the afternoon. I saw some poor guy get pulled over for maybe going 10 - 15 mph over the posted speed limit. I understand he was speeding a little, but really.
Which other areas of our community should I pay special attention when driving? Always be safe and please drive safely.
Joe V.
09-25-2021, 01:08 PM
Don't speed.
GrumpyOldMan
09-25-2021, 01:30 PM
That is a - IMHO - Public Disservice Announcement.
Many may not like them, but speed limits are there for a reason.
VApeople
09-25-2021, 01:36 PM
Which other areas of our community should I pay special attention when driving?
I have seen those awful 'speed traps' all over The Villages.
I even saw one person get a ticket just because he pulled into a postal station a little too fast.
Mortal1
09-25-2021, 01:36 PM
So this might be an anti-law enforcement post?
Some speed enforcement areas are put in place at the behest of the residents of an area because they believe they are in danger since their reflexes and reaction time are considerably slower than 20 years ago. "trap" is usually a term reserved to those who just don't like being told what to do.
As to the "some poor guy" comment...for all it's known is he was weaving all over the place or had an expired plate/license. Assuming someone fell into a "trap" means that the city/county intentionally sets up an area to squeeze $$$ to line their coffers.
Can I assume some people just don't like rules when they feel it may impact "their own" life?
"speed traps" are usually put in place where: a)there has been known excessive speeding(and that would usually be 1 to 5 mph over the limit for a "trap"...not 10 to 20...agreed to nationally as too much.
Mortal1
09-25-2021, 01:38 PM
I have seen those awful 'speed traps' all over The Villages.
I even saw one person get a ticket just because he pulled into a postal station a little too fast.
as the poster would have no idea what was on the ticket...unless it was them...in that case perhaps they did it in a reckless manner. Who knows?
Bogie Shooter
09-25-2021, 01:46 PM
In no way am I encouraging dangerous or unlawful driving habits, but I have noticed several police speed traps, or better known as traffic enforcement areas popping-up within our community. There has been daily speed traps for the past two weeks on Warm Spring Avenue near Meggison Road which is just north of the Florida Turnpike. There has been increased police traffic enforcement during the weekdays and primarily during the afternoon. I saw some poor guy get pulled over for maybe going 10 - 15 mph over the posted speed limit. I understand he was speeding a little, but really.
Which other areas of our community should I pay special attention when driving? Always be safe and please drive safely.
Speed traps? Really?
Obey the speed limit you will not have a problem…….
sam&rog
09-25-2021, 01:46 PM
the roundabout at Meggison Rd is the scene of several accidents due to excessive speed. Enforcement appears to be the correct solution.
Michael G.
09-25-2021, 02:06 PM
Where any speeding enforcement should really be is OUTSIDE TV on Hwy 441/27.
The only time you see a police cruiser out there is AFTER a accident.
Never see anyone pulled over for speeding in the 11 years living in tv.
Penglobal
09-25-2021, 02:09 PM
I'm confident the guy I was referring to was pulled over for speeding. As I passed the cop who was stopped and concealed behind some trees in the grass medium, I could see his radar detector. I was driving exactly the speed limit and the poor guy who passed me was only going a little faster than me.
I 'm not for unsafe driving nor am I anti-cop, but the next time you drive a little over the speed limit and you get ticketed, I'm confident that you will immediately seek the guidance of a ticket-attorney and fight that speeding ticket to the best of your abilities. So please don't be a hypocrite and state that all violators most be cited.
ThirdOfFive
09-25-2021, 02:12 PM
In no way am I encouraging dangerous or unlawful driving habits, but I have noticed several police speed traps, or better known as traffic enforcement areas popping-up within our community. There has been daily speed traps for the past two weeks on Warm Spring Avenue near Meggison Road which is just north of the Florida Turnpike. There has been increased police traffic enforcement during the weekdays and primarily during the afternoon. I saw some poor guy get pulled over for maybe going 10 - 15 mph over the posted speed limit. I understand he was speeding a little, but really.
Which other areas of our community should I pay special attention when driving? Always be safe and please drive safely.
In my opinion they are waaaaaay overdue--and welcome.
villagetinker
09-25-2021, 02:21 PM
The increased enforcement was published in the Daily Sun and was due to several accidents and apparently significant speeding in the area, glad to see they are following up. I typically set my cruise control at a couple of MPH over the posted speed limit, and I am constantly being passed, even at 40 MPH on Buena Vista and Morse I get passed by cars that have to be going close to 60, and occasionally weaving in and out of traffic. IMHO, people need to slow down.
Michael G.
09-25-2021, 03:08 PM
And don't forget, it's called: The Speed "Limit".
Two Bills
09-25-2021, 03:11 PM
Posters moan about bad driving, and speeding on a regular basis on this site, and the minute something is done about it, the law is being heavy handed.
C'mon Son!
GrumpyOldMan
09-25-2021, 03:19 PM
So this might be an anti-law enforcement post?
Some speed enforcement areas are put in place at the behest of the residents of an area because they believe they are in danger since their reflexes and reaction time are considerably slower than 20 years ago. "trap" is usually a term reserved to those who just don't like being told what to do.
As to the "some poor guy" comment...for all it's known is he was weaving all over the place or had an expired plate/license. Assuming someone fell into a "trap" means that the city/county intentionally sets up an area to squeeze $$$ to line their coffers.
Can I assume some people just don't like rules when they feel it may impact "their own" life?
"speed traps" are usually put in place where: a)there has been known excessive speeding(and that would usually be 1 to 5 mph over the limit for a "trap"...not 10 to 20...agreed to nationally as too much.
I think the majority opinion here is "rules are for others"... I could be wrong.
GrumpyOldMan
09-25-2021, 03:22 PM
I'm confident the guy I was referring to was pulled over for speeding. As I passed the cop who was stopped and concealed behind some trees in the grass medium, I could see his radar detector. I was driving exactly the speed limit and the poor guy who passed me was only going a little faster than me.
I 'm not for unsafe driving nor am I anti-cop, but the next time you drive a little over the speed limit and you get ticketed, I'm confident that you will immediately seek the guidance of a ticket-attorney and fight that speeding ticket to the best of your abilities. So please don't be a hypocrite and state that all violators most be cited.
Well, you would be wrong being confident in my case, I am not mad at anyone but myself when I get a moving violation of any kind, and I expect a significant number of people feel the same way.
Why bother having laws if they are not enforced or if people hire expensive lawyers to get off the hook when they break the law.
And, nothing hypocritical I firmly wish all violators would be ticketed. I grow more and more tired today with so little consequences that people do anything they want and then complain when caught
billethkid
09-25-2021, 05:15 PM
The enforcement is long over due.
Speed traps? The more the better.
Only those who are offended by enforcement are crying foul!!
Book 'em....the more the merrier.
vintageogauge
09-25-2021, 06:01 PM
I'm confident the guy I was referring to was pulled over for speeding. As I passed the cop who was stopped and concealed behind some trees in the grass medium, I could see his radar detector. I was driving exactly the speed limit and the poor guy who passed me was only going a little faster than me.
I 'm not for unsafe driving nor am I anti-cop, but the next time you drive a little over the speed limit and you get ticketed, I'm confident that you will immediately seek the guidance of a ticket-attorney and fight that speeding ticket to the best of your abilities. So please don't be a hypocrite and state that all violators most be cited.
My wife got stopped off of Warm Springs going 9 MPH over the speed limit and received only a warning. It worked, she is now afraid to go 1 MPH over the limit. Just because people get pulled over doesn't mean they all get tickets, sometimes only a warning.
thelegges
09-25-2021, 06:50 PM
Lawn companies, ups and FedEx, think TV is their own personal speedway. Long over due.
Bjeanj
09-25-2021, 07:23 PM
I saw some poor guy get pulled over for maybe going 10 - 15 mph over the posted speed limit. I understand he was speeding a little, but really.
It seems like 10-15 miles over the speed limit is too fast. Have you never heard of the saying “five you’re fine, nine you’re mine”, quoted by some unknown officers (or possibly no one at all).
;-)
TNLAKEPANDA
09-25-2021, 08:18 PM
In no way am I encouraging dangerous or unlawful driving habits, but I have noticed several police speed traps, or better known as traffic enforcement areas popping-up within our community. There has been daily speed traps for the past two weeks on Warm Spring Avenue near Meggison Road which is just north of the Florida Turnpike. There has been increased police traffic enforcement during the weekdays and primarily during the afternoon. I saw some poor guy get pulled over for maybe going 10 - 15 mph over the posted speed limit. I understand he was speeding a little, but really.
Which other areas of our community should I pay special attention when driving? Always be safe and please drive safely.
People in TV drive way too fast… way above the speed limit= Hope the get caught and ticked.:boxing2:
Cmacnair@hotmail.com
09-26-2021, 05:00 AM
I always thought that a sign stating the speed limit was a suggestion!! 😎
Skunky1
09-26-2021, 05:03 AM
Best to be on the traveled roadways then in a parking lot
arbajeda
09-26-2021, 05:25 AM
The increased speed enforcement is a result of widely-ignored speed limits that contributed to a recent traffic fatality:
https://www.**************.com/2021/08/16/report-sheds-light-on-fatal-motorcycle-crash-in-roundabout-in-the-villages/
If the link is removed go to the other news site and search for motorcycle and Daniel Ray Justice.
stenteach
09-26-2021, 05:26 AM
The life they save may be your own or one you love.
Be careful out there!
Now if they could only do something about those driving and texting and weaving all over the road into other lanes.
NotGolfer
09-26-2021, 05:32 AM
O.P. really??? So if a speeder also runs a light and t-bones you and gets ticketed, will you also complain??? Yesterday I was going on Morse....I only will go a tad over the limit if at all and that's maybe one or so mph. Someone in a van came speeding up and passed me and disappeared. My guess-timate is they were going at least 50 MPH to do that. I'd guess if you think getting pulled over should be outlawed then we should do away with other laws as well. Our society is reaping the "bounty" of no consequences given. Just pick up a paper or flip through the t.v. stations. You don't have to read whole articles--just the headlines to figure this all out. I think there should be more speed-traps set. We live on a generally quiet side street but the vendors with their noisy mufflers speed by ALL the time during the day.
mydavid
09-26-2021, 05:46 AM
The increased enforcement was published in the Daily Sun and was due to several accidents and apparently significant speeding in the area, glad to see they are following up. I typically set my cruise control at a couple of MPH over the posted speed limit, and I am constantly being passed, even at 40 MPH on Buena Vista and Morse I get passed by cars that have to be going close to 60, and occasionally weaving in and out of traffic. IMHO, people need to slow down. You use cruise control in the Villages "WOW" interesting must be fun in the roundabouts.
thevillages2013
09-26-2021, 05:46 AM
In no way am I encouraging dangerous or unlawful driving habits, but I have noticed several police speed traps, or better known as traffic enforcement areas popping-up within our community. There has been daily speed traps for the past two weeks on Warm Spring Avenue near Meggison Road which is just north of the Florida Turnpike. There has been increased police traffic enforcement during the weekdays and primarily during the afternoon. I saw some poor guy get pulled over for maybe going 10 - 15 mph over the posted speed limit. I understand he was speeding a little, but really.
Which other areas of our community should I pay special attention when driving? Always be safe and please drive safely.
Thanks for the heads up
Dlbonivich
09-26-2021, 05:48 AM
I got a ticket on Morse by Osceola Hills. I was speeding, not by much it was 6 months ago. Big dump trucks were blowing by me. I got stopped
MandoMan
09-26-2021, 06:11 AM
In no way am I encouraging dangerous or unlawful driving habits, but I have noticed several police speed traps, or better known as traffic enforcement areas popping-up within our community. There has been daily speed traps for the past two weeks on Warm Spring Avenue near Meggison Road which is just north of the Florida Turnpike. There has been increased police traffic enforcement during the weekdays and primarily during the afternoon. I saw some poor guy get pulled over for maybe going 10 - 15 mph over the posted speed limit. I understand he was speeding a little, but really.
Which other areas of our community should I pay special attention when driving? Always be safe and please drive safely.
Doesn’t Warm Springs Avenue have a speed limit of 45, then 35 near the shopping center, and slower at the roundabout where several people have crashed recently and one or two have died? So you think it’s okay to drive 60 in a 45 mph zone, or 50 mph in a 35 mph zone? While most of us could do that safely, some can’t, and a lot of accidents happen because of people trying to pass people obeying the speed limit. Also, if I am pulling out of a parking lot onto the street, I may assume the speed of the car is at the speed limit, but if it is substantially faster, the faster car may need to brake suddenly or swerve, which is again more likely to result in an accident. So I welcome cops giving tickets at that sort of place. Most of us actually do follow the speed limit closely here. After all, we are retired. What’s the hurry?
merrymini
09-26-2021, 06:22 AM
Oh yes, you do not encourage people to break the law but warn them about “speed traps?” If you speed, you can get stopped, simple.
Black Beauty
09-26-2021, 06:30 AM
slow down please
Luggage
09-26-2021, 06:31 AM
Typical speed is 65 to 70 on route 44 all the way from the turnpike down to Leesburg until it gets to 45 mph limits and even then people do 55. I really see the police doing enforcement and there have been some bad accidents. It's it's delivery people, the lawn service as well as regular passenger cars.
The speed enforcement that is done throughout the villages and Lake county does have an effect on slowing traffic down has very simply you have written about it and hundreds of people now will think about going a little slower. Of course we still have crazy people out there and you have to be careful
Luggage
09-26-2021, 06:32 AM
Only 10 mph over the limit give me an extra 50 - 100 ft stopping distance required. Think about that. Coupled with the extra half second or second due to senior citizen driving is in the difference between an accident and not an accident
dewilson58
09-26-2021, 06:33 AM
The "public service" is what the officers are doing, not the announcement.
:popcorn:
barbnick
09-26-2021, 06:58 AM
That is speeding. Deserves a ticket
bowlingal
09-26-2021, 07:00 AM
the golf carts should also be ticketed for speeding....they go way over the limit of 20 mph
vinricci
09-26-2021, 07:03 AM
IMO We need way more police presence on Buena Vista and Morse.
NoMo50
09-26-2021, 07:05 AM
If you are driving 10 - 15mph over the speed limit, you are intentionally breaking the law. If caught, you deserve whatever comes your way. Period.
coconutmama
09-26-2021, 07:08 AM
People in TV drive way too fast… way above the speed limit= Hope the get caught and ticked.:boxing2:
Amen.
And while the officers are out there, maybe they will catch some of the illegal golf cart drivers on the main roads in and around our community. Big safety problem: speed & confused drivers. Be safe out there!
Arctic Fox
09-26-2021, 07:10 AM
The enforcement is long over due.
Speed traps? The more the better.
Only those who are offended by enforcement are crying foul!!
Book 'em....the more the merrier.
Agreed - "if you can't do the time (bear the fine?), don't do the crime"
barbief
09-26-2021, 07:18 AM
I am happy to hear this. There are so many people in too much of a hurry. Why? 5 miles over the limit is normally overlooked but 10 or more is a safety hazard to our community, especially on the roadways with walkers, cyclists and golf carts sharing the road. No need to drive that fast.
sallyg
09-26-2021, 07:19 AM
I wish there were a few more speed enforcement areas. Many people drive very fast on Marsh Bend Trail it is dangerous and nerve wracking. Slow down folks, please.
BigSteph
09-26-2021, 07:19 AM
They are setting up right before the circle where the motorcycle rider went through it and died this past summer. In this case, they are responding to that accident and several others from 301 to 501 on Warm Springs.
the roundabout at Meggison Rd is the scene of several accidents due to excessive speed. Enforcement appears to be the correct solution.
airstreamingypsy
09-26-2021, 07:23 AM
To the OP, a police presence in known speeding areas is not a speed trap, it's good police work. Shame on you for giving speeders a heads up.
MrFlorida
09-26-2021, 07:28 AM
Good, the more the better. People drive way too fast in TV. The speed limit is 35 on most roads, not 50.
b0bd0herty
09-26-2021, 07:34 AM
[QUOTE=Penglobal;2009025]In no way am I encouraging dangerous or unlawful driving habits...]
Ha. Yes you are. Poor guy doing 10 -15 over, perhaps 10 - 40 over. It does encouraging unlawful AND dangerous driving.
Let those who do the crime... pay their dime.
Wing-nut2
09-26-2021, 07:49 AM
10 -15 over, poor guy, really. Is it still 15 over and you can be arrested for reckless driving?
DaleDivine
09-26-2021, 07:51 AM
In no way am I encouraging dangerous or unlawful driving habits, but I have noticed several police speed traps, or better known as traffic enforcement areas popping-up within our community. There has been daily speed traps for the past two weeks on Warm Spring Avenue near Meggison Road which is just north of the Florida Turnpike. There has been increased police traffic enforcement during the weekdays and primarily during the afternoon. I saw some poor guy get pulled over for maybe going 10 - 15 mph over the posted speed limit. I understand he was speeding a little, but really.
Which other areas of our community should I pay special attention when driving? Always be safe and please drive safely.
I don't think the Morse's condone traffic stops because it might deter some prospects from buying here and gives them a black eye. They don't like bad publicity.
And on the other side of the coin people who see this happening will buy here because they fell this makes it a safer community.
:bigbow::bigbow:
DonH57
09-26-2021, 07:53 AM
I wish LEO's would start making appearances on Enrique, Carzaraz, and Chapperell. No way most of these people are doing less than 45.
waterflower
09-26-2021, 07:57 AM
If this community really cared about the issues that arise, all would be at the count/state door to improve the roads conditions.All roundabouts are not safe. This needs to be re-engineered. Go to the state or county to discuss removing all round-abouts.
B-flat
09-26-2021, 08:04 AM
Too many people speed, there needs to be some kind of safeguards in place, if speed traps as they are called then so be it. Yesterday we traveled to SW Florida on i-75 I set my cruise at 70 MPH. Other drivers passed me as if I were standing still it’s nuts.
On other note this thread reminds me of Rt301 in Waldo Florida. Years back the local police force nailed people all the time because the limit would drop down to 25MPH in the town. As I recall they funded their entire department on the revenue from speeding tickets.
Waldo, Lawtey no longer speed traps, AAA says - News - Gainesville Sun - Gainesville, FL (https://www.gainesville.com/news/20180710/waldo-lawtey-no-longer-speed-traps-aaa-says)
Florida town infamous for speed traps disbanding police force - CBS News (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida-town-infamous-for-speed-traps-disbanding-police-force/)
Niferlou06
09-26-2021, 08:05 AM
10-15 over the speed limit? Seriously, and you have no issue with this? Did you know, by law, if you are caught going 20 miles over you can be arrested on the spot?
Add the age of the driver, other influances, and Yes, 10-15 is an issue. Follow the laws!
graciegirl
09-26-2021, 08:15 AM
I'm confident the guy I was referring to was pulled over for speeding. As I passed the cop who was stopped and concealed behind some trees in the grass medium, I could see his radar detector. I was driving exactly the speed limit and the poor guy who passed me was only going a little faster than me.
I 'm not for unsafe driving nor am I anti-cop, but the next time you drive a little over the speed limit and you get ticketed, I'm confident that you will immediately seek the guidance of a ticket-attorney and fight that speeding ticket to the best of your abilities. So please don't be a hypocrite and state that all violators most be cited.
Hmmm. And further MMMMMMMMM.. In our house most of the time we don't call them "cop". The guy "passed you, only going a LITTLE faster than me.".???? I was a mother and a teacher. ARE you sure you didn't get the ticket? Just wondering.
In my life I got two citations for speeding.
I was.
wisbad1
09-26-2021, 08:19 AM
Don't speed.
You can drive drunk and get away with it, but don’t speed!!!
charlieo1126@gmail.com
09-26-2021, 08:39 AM
If this community really cared about the issues that arise, all would be at the count/state door to improve the roads conditions.All roundabouts are not safe. This needs to be re-engineered. Go to the state or county to discuss removing all round-abouts. doesn’t have roundabouts much safer then 4 way stops and traffic light , and in a study of traffic flow in a 15?minute period 385 cars moved through a 4 way stop 460 moved through in the same 15 at roundabouts , there is nothing hard about navigating a roundabout they have been on main roads In Massachusetts since I started driving and that’s 1954 , for some reason many villagers won’t take 10 minutes to read how to do these simple traffic movements
ThirdOfFive
09-26-2021, 08:47 AM
the golf carts should also be ticked for speeding....they go way over the limit of 20 mph
Absolutely. 95% of golf cart drivers are careful and courteous, but there are some cowboys out there that are a real danger.
Last week I was walking on the golf cart path that parallels El Camino Real. I always walk on the left side (I want to see what is coming toward me). I heard a cart behind me. All of a sudden there were TWO carts behind me. one passing the other. The moron doing the passing came so close to me that I could have reached out and touched his cart. He must have been going well over the 20 mph limit because it didn't take him long to disappear. I gave him the one-finger salute in case he was looking in his rear-view mirror.
toeser
09-26-2021, 08:51 AM
"I saw some poor guy get pulled over for maybe going 10 - 15 mph over the posted speed limit. I understand he was speeding a little, but really."
What in your mind is required for a speeding ticket? Doing 100 in a 70 zone?
The people going 10-15 over the limit always expect you to clear the left lane for them even if it means you have to do a risky merge into slower right lane traffic. My attitude is "up yours." If I am in the left lane, I am going the speed limit or faster. I don't need to cater to every racetrack driver out there.
ThirdOfFive
09-26-2021, 08:51 AM
I am happy to hear this. There are so many people in too much of a hurry. Why? 5 miles over the limit is normally overlooked but 10 or more is a safety hazard to our community, especially on the roadways with walkers, cyclists and golf carts sharing the road. No need to drive that fast.
I remember a comment of my wife's when we first moved here. "What's their big hurry? They're RETIRED for Godsakes!"
Bogie Shooter
09-26-2021, 08:58 AM
I don't think the Morse's condone traffic stops because it might deter some prospects from buying here and gives them a black eye. They don't like bad publicity.
And on the other side of the coin people who see this happening will buy here because they fell this makes it a safer community.
:bigbow::bigbow:
:what:
What does this have to do with speeding??
Bogie Shooter
09-26-2021, 09:00 AM
If this community really cared about the issues that arise, all would be at the count/state door to improve the roads conditions.All roundabouts are not safe. This needs to be re-engineered. Go to the state or county to discuss removing all round-abouts.
Really, this was concluded since May?
BTW, ain’t gonna happen.
Marine1974
09-26-2021, 09:10 AM
10 to 15 MPH over the speed limit and that’s supposed to be acceptable? No wonder the police are spending valuable resources to keep our streets safe and enforce laws .
doctorknow
09-26-2021, 09:43 AM
Speed traps? Really?
Obey the speed limit you will not have a problem…….
I have NO ISSUES with law enforcement doing traffic stops for what is considered "speeding" However....I have lived in Florida for 37 years now with 9 in the villages and the issue I have a problem with is the way the traffic engineers set the speed limits on some of the roads. Not just in the Villages but in general across our fair state. Some of the speed limits are way to conservative and low. They impede traffic and actually set up unsafe conditions by encouraging speeding. Bless the police for enforcement for our safety but lets question how some of these "limits" are placed on roadways. What is the algorithm used to determine speed limits? Lets' explore the root cause of the issue.
gbs317
09-26-2021, 10:05 AM
Can’t do the time… Don’t do the crime.
Penglobal
09-26-2021, 10:07 AM
Once again, I am not condoning unsafe driving, but driving a few miles over the speed limit by a competent healthy driver is much safer than an old lady with pre-dementia, bad vision, slow reflexes and who drives a 1990 beat-up Chevy without tread on their tires.
There are many bad drivers throughout The Villages who drive both regular vehicles and golf carts that should not be on our shared roadways. If we all are so concerned about driving safely, then actual mandated driving test should be state mandated to those of us over a certain age limit or those of us deemed unfit to drive by their physician or close family member.
Unfortunately as we all get older, our driving skills begin to deteriorate and there are many older Villagers who should not be driving and I'd rather be driving next to a competent speeding driver than next to someone who can barely breath and see!
Arctic Fox
09-26-2021, 10:27 AM
Once again, I am not condoning unsafe driving, but driving a few miles over the speed limit by a competent healthy driver is much safer than an old lady with pre-dementia, bad vision, slow reflexes and who drives a 1990 beat-up Chevy without tread on their tires.
Why do you see this as an either/or situation?
Neither is safe (safer is not the same as safe) and both need to be discouraged.
HORNET
09-26-2021, 10:28 AM
Observe the speed limits, protect lives
GrumpyOldMan
09-26-2021, 10:29 AM
I have NO ISSUES with law enforcement doing traffic stops for what is considered "speeding" However....I have lived in Florida for 37 years now with 9 in the villages and the issue I have a problem with is the way the traffic engineers set the speed limits on some of the roads. Not just in the Villages but in general across our fair state. Some of the speed limits are way to conservative and low. They impede traffic and actually set up unsafe conditions by encouraging speeding. Bless the police for enforcement for our safety but lets question how some of these "limits" are placed on roadways. What is the algorithm used to determine speed limits? Lets' explore the root cause of the issue.
So, you vs traffic engineers that spend their life trying to save lives. Who should I believe... hmmm...
Always rolling
09-26-2021, 10:36 AM
As others have stated, it’s not unusual to have car’s going 50+ mph on TV streets, especially Morris. While on the District radio, I hear about several accidents where drivers have damaged or destroyed round about’s. Generally speed enforcement are set up where accidents have occurred due to excess speeding!
RayAmb
09-26-2021, 10:42 AM
HOW ABOUT SOME HELP SLOWING DOWN SPEEDING ON PINELLAS BETWEEN BUENA VISTA AND 466A ?…. Residents can’t get out safely!
Joe V.
09-26-2021, 10:42 AM
You can drive drunk and get away with it, but don’t speed!!!
Where does it say you can drive drunk? Do not speed. Do not drive drunk. Speeding is illegal. Glad they are paying attention to this issue.
Bogie Shooter
09-26-2021, 10:46 AM
As others have stated, it’s not unusual to have car’s going 50+ mph on TV streets, especially Morris. While on the District radio, I hear about several accidents where drivers have damaged or destroyed round about’s. Generally speed enforcement are set up where accidents have occurred due to excess speeding!
Morris is a cat………..
graciegirl
09-26-2021, 12:27 PM
Once again, I am not condoning unsafe driving, but driving a few miles over the speed limit by a competent healthy driver is much safer than an old lady with pre-dementia, bad vision, slow reflexes and who drives a 1990 beat-up Chevy without tread on their tires.
There are many bad drivers throughout The Villages who drive both regular vehicles and golf carts that should not be on our shared roadways. If we all are so concerned about driving safely, then actual mandated driving test should be state mandated to those of us over a certain age limit or those of us deemed unfit to drive by their physician or close family member.
Unfortunately as we all get older, our driving skills begin to deteriorate and there are many older Villagers who should not be driving and I'd rather be driving next to a competent speeding driver than next to someone who can barely breath and see!
You are 63. I read your other posts. One day you WILL be an 81 year old woman, like me. (Who does not drive because she had a heart episode that scared the misplaced eyebrows off her) No one said I couldn't.
My husband is still an excellent driver at 80.
Our car is not a beat up Chevy with bald tires. It is kept in excellent repair. My husband trims ALL of the bushes and trees around our lot and replaces sprinkler heads. I am so grateful for his good health.
I want you to tell me how you feel about driving in twelve years.
Arctic Fox
09-26-2021, 12:40 PM
I want you to tell me how you feel about driving in twelve years.
If he carries on speeding he may not last that long.
I just hope he doesn't take an innocent life along the way.
gogond
09-26-2021, 01:41 PM
So this might be an anti-law enforcement post?
Some speed enforcement areas are put in place at the behest of the residents of an area because they believe they are in danger since their reflexes and reaction time are considerably slower than 20 years ago. "trap" is usually a term reserved to those who just don't like being told what to do.
As to the "some poor guy" comment...for all it's known is he was weaving all over the place or had an expired plate/license. Assuming someone fell into a "trap" means that the city/county intentionally sets up an area to squeeze $$$ to line their coffers.
Can I assume some people just don't like rules when they feel it may impact "their own" life?
"speed traps" are usually put in place where: a)there has been known excessive speeding(and that would usually be 1 to 5 mph over the limit for a "trap"...not 10 to 20...agreed to nationally as too much.
Sort of like that Vaccine Trap. Lol
graciegirl
09-26-2021, 01:57 PM
If he carries on speeding he may not last that long.
I just hope he doesn't take an innocent life along the way.
The OP is a woman.
Boffin
09-26-2021, 03:11 PM
Exactly what is the difference between dead at 20 miles per hour and dead at 40 miles per hour? Perhaps just luck but all of my encounters with police officers have been good. No excuses though. If I have committed an offense, knowingly or unknowingly, then I say thank you and pay the price. These folks are out there doing their jobs enforcing the law not making it. If someone disagrees with the law, then they need to take action to change the law rather tan bitch about.
JMintzer
09-26-2021, 03:21 PM
You are 63. I read your other posts. One day you WILL be an 81 year old woman, like me. (Who does not drive because she had a heart episode that scared the misplaced eyebrows off her) No one said I couldn't.
My husband is still an excellent driver at 80.
Our car is not a beat up Chevy with bald tires. It is kept in excellent repair. My husband trims ALL of the bushes and trees around our lot and replaces sprinkler heads. I am so grateful for his good health.
I want you to tell me how you feel about driving in twelve years.
It's not always about you...
graciegirl
09-26-2021, 03:35 PM
It's not always about you...
I was not clear.
What I was trying to convey is this. Not too many Villagers drive beat up old chevys with bald tires around here and there are a good many folks in their seventies driving safely. AND MOST of us Villagers truly worry and are very concerned about driving safely and when to stop. We are extremely careful about all other things including our health and that is why such a high percentage of us is vaccinated. We also pay our bills on time, witness the highest overall credit ratings in the country live here. We are good people, most of us.
And also. You too are in your early sixties. You too will learn many things in the coming twenty years, just as you have in the last twenty.
JMintzer
09-26-2021, 04:00 PM
I was not clear.
No, you were perfectly clear. You made it all about you...
"One day you WILL be an 81 year old woman, like me. (Who does not drive because she had a heart episode that scared the misplaced eyebrows off her) No one said I couldn't.
My husband is still an excellent driver at 80.
Our car is not a beat up Chevy with bald tires. It is kept in excellent repair. My husband trims ALL of the bushes and trees around our lot and replaces sprinkler heads. I am so grateful for his good health."
I can see no other way to read this, despite your comments below...
What I was trying to convey is this. Not too many Villagers drive beat up old chevys with bald tires around here and there are a good many folks in their seventies driving safely. AND MOST of us Villagers truly worry and are very concerned about driving safely and when to stop. We are extremely careful about all other things including our health and that is why such a high percentage of us is vaccinated. We also pay our bills on time, witness the highest overall credit ratings in the country live here. We are good people, most of us.
And also. You too are in your early sixties. You too will learn many things in the coming twenty years, just as you have in the last twenty.
Nah, the Boss says I can't learn anything...
Bogie Shooter
09-26-2021, 05:02 PM
No, you were perfectly clear. You made it all about you...
"One day you WILL be an 81 year old woman, like me. (Who does not drive because she had a heart episode that scared the misplaced eyebrows off her) No one said I couldn't.
My husband is still an excellent driver at 80.
Our car is not a beat up Chevy with bald tires. It is kept in excellent repair. My husband trims ALL of the bushes and trees around our lot and replaces sprinkler heads. I am so grateful for his good health."
I can see no other way to read this, despite your comments below...
Nah, the Boss says I can't learn anything...
So what? It makes a difference in the scheme of things?
thelegges
09-26-2021, 05:44 PM
I was not clear.
What I was trying to convey is this. Not too many Villagers drive beat up old chevys with bald tires around here and there are a good many folks in their seventies driving safely. AND MOST of us Villagers truly worry and are very concerned about driving safely and when to stop. We are extremely careful about all other things including our health and that is why such a high percentage of us is vaccinated. We also pay our bills on time, witness the highest overall credit ratings in the country live here. We are good people, most of us.
And also. You too are in your early sixties. You too will learn many things in the coming twenty years, just as you have in the last twenty.
Why do you think you can only learn many things from mid 60s to 80s? Did you wait to change eating habits, exercise differently during those 20 years?
I have been pretty satisfied with all I learned At 60, not sure there is anything That could improve on in the next 20 years. As far as health issues such as cancer or cardiac, many have had those learned lessons in their 30s and 40s.
Penglobal
09-26-2021, 06:28 PM
You are 63. I read your other posts. One day you WILL be an 81 year old woman, like me. (Who does not drive because she had a heart episode that scared the misplaced eyebrows off her) No one said I couldn't.
My husband is still an excellent driver at 80.
Our car is not a beat up Chevy with bald tires. It is kept in excellent repair. My husband trims ALL of the bushes and trees around our lot and replaces sprinkler heads. I am so grateful for his good health.
I want you to tell me how you feel about driving in twelve years.
God bless you Mrs. Graciegirl and I thank you for taking a proactive stance in making an informed for yourself by deciding not to drive due to your own personal circumstances. My point is that there are many "older" & "younger" Villagers who should not be driving and this group of drivers scares me more than anyone who drives a few miles over the speed limit. And the remark about me turning 81 years old in 18 years, may that statement make it straight to gods ears.
dave from deland
09-26-2021, 07:13 PM
In no way am I encouraging dangerous or unlawful driving habits, but I have noticed several police speed traps, or better known as traffic enforcement areas popping-up within our community. There has been daily speed traps for the past two weeks on Warm Spring Avenue near Meggison Road which is just north of the Florida Turnpike. There has been increased police traffic enforcement during the weekdays and primarily during the afternoon. I saw some poor guy get pulled over for maybe going 10 - 15 mph over the posted speed limit. I understand he was speeding a little, but really.
Which other areas of our community should I pay special attention when driving? Always be safe and please drive safely.It's not a 'speed trap'. It's called 'law enforcement'.
JMintzer
09-26-2021, 07:53 PM
So what? It makes a difference in the scheme of things?
That reply is apropos to most topics on this site...
GrumpyOldMan
09-26-2021, 08:12 PM
It seems that the appropriate way to respond to any reasonable post here it is find some way to misinterpret it so one can come up with a argument.
Two Bills
09-27-2021, 03:28 AM
If this community really cared about the issues that arise, all would be at the count/state door to improve the roads conditions.All roundabouts are not safe. This needs to be re-engineered. Go to the state or county to discuss removing all round-abouts.
Roundabouts are perfectly safe, and well engineered.
It's the drivers that are not so safe or well engineered!
roob1
09-27-2021, 03:59 AM
I heard a new study found a correlation between speeders in TV and flamingo statues in their front yards.
Also heard there are little old ladies in golf carts with clipboards, who have radar guns. They report to police the areas of increased speeding.
:boom:HAHAHA
BillY41
09-27-2021, 04:04 AM
You keep on saying, 'poor guy.' He was driving a car a priviledge in all 50 states. He CHOSE to disobey the speed limit by 10-15 mph as you say. At what pont should an officer write the ticket over the posted speed limit? Other threads have called for more enforcement for speeding. Police are damned if they do and damned if they don't!
NoMo50
09-27-2021, 05:41 AM
10-15 over the speed limit? Seriously, and you have no issue with this? Did you know, by law, if you are caught going 20 miles over you can be arrested on the spot?
Actually, if you receive a citation, you have been "arrested." You were just released at the scene on your signature, promising to satisfy the citation or appear in court. "Arrested" and "taken into custody" are not always the same thing. One can be taken into custody for any violation, but of course that is generally not practical or necessary. Don't believe me? Next time an officer asks for your signature on a citation, try telling him/her, "to heck with you...I ain't signing that." See what happens.
Topgun 1776
09-27-2021, 06:03 AM
I'm confident the guy I was referring to was pulled over for speeding. As I passed the cop who was stopped and concealed behind some trees in the grass medium, I could see his radar detector. I was driving exactly the speed limit and the poor guy who passed me was only going a little faster than me.
I 'm not for unsafe driving nor am I anti-cop, but the next time you drive a little over the speed limit and you get ticketed, I'm confident that you will immediately seek the guidance of a ticket-attorney and fight that speeding ticket to the best of your abilities. So please don't be a hypocrite and state that all violators most be cited.
Sorry...it's not feasible you weren't speeding but received a ticket. I have been involved with LE officers in the military for many years...and not a single person ticketed wasn't speeding when ticketed. This is not the 70s..the radar technology is extremely exact in speed and vehicle targeting. You might "believe" you weren't...but, you were speeding.
Just slow down and it won't be an issue in the future.
golfing eagles
09-27-2021, 06:05 AM
People in TV drive way too fast… way above the speed limit= Hope the get caught and ticked.:boxing2:
Agree. Except for those that drive way too slow, which is at least as big a safety hazard.
golfing eagles
09-27-2021, 06:09 AM
Too many people speed, there needs to be some kind of safeguards in place, if speed traps as they are called then so be it. Yesterday we traveled to SW Florida on i-75 I set my cruise at 70 MPH. Other drivers passed me as if I were standing still it’s nuts.
On other note this thread reminds me of Rt301 in Waldo Florida. Years back the local police force nailed people all the time because the limit would drop down to 25MPH in the town. As I recall they funded their entire department on the revenue from speeding tickets.
Waldo, Lawtey no longer speed traps, AAA says - News - Gainesville Sun - Gainesville, FL (https://www.gainesville.com/news/20180710/waldo-lawtey-no-longer-speed-traps-aaa-says)
Florida town infamous for speed traps disbanding police force - CBS News (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida-town-infamous-for-speed-traps-disbanding-police-force/)
Cruise control at 70 on I-75? I applaud your civic-mindedness and adherence to the letter of the law. However, I do hope you are not one of those "left lane Louie's", in which case you are likely to be the CAUSE of an accident, even if you never get into one yourself.
golfing eagles
09-27-2021, 06:16 AM
"I saw some poor guy get pulled over for maybe going 10 - 15 mph over the posted speed limit. I understand he was speeding a little, but really."
What in your mind is required for a speeding ticket? Doing 100 in a 70 zone?
The people going 10-15 over the limit always expect you to clear the left lane for them even if it means you have to do a risky merge into slower right lane traffic. My attitude is "up yours." If I am in the left lane, I am going the speed limit or faster. I don't need to cater to every racetrack driver out there.
Well, an attitude like that is what causes high speed accidents on interstates---slower drivers hanging out in the far left lane. They feel "entitled" to be there, so everyone else has to change lanes to get around them which is the number one cause of accidents on interstates.
BTW, based on the statement, "I don't need to cater to every racetrack driver out there.", you must be unaware that the law REQUIRES you to move over for anyone in that left lane who is traveling faster than you, even if you yourself are going 80 or 85. It IS NOT up to you to set the pace on any roadway, YOU are not a police officer.
chuckpedrey
09-27-2021, 06:51 AM
The other day I saw a cop car with lights flashing sitting behind a golf cart. No telling if it was a ticket, a warning or a rescue.
graciegirl
09-27-2021, 07:00 AM
Why do you think you can only learn many things from mid 60s to 80s? Did you wait to change eating habits, exercise differently during those 20 years?
I have been pretty satisfied with all I learned At 60, not sure there is anything That could improve on in the next 20 years. As far as health issues such as cancer or cardiac, many have had those learned lessons in their 30s and 40s.
I wished to express that every year that we get older is a year we have amassed more information. The people who I know well who are my age continue to grow and learn and read and listen and absorb and think.
Yesterday out of a life long interest in Decor and keeping current and knowing what is going on and what is the latest "thing" I spent several hours looking at magazines on line and seeing rooms that are using the new colors and a completely new look. I didn't "like" the mustard yellow being used with a light pink and some other new things but now I am beginning to "get" the trends. Not because they are "right or wrong" just because I enjoy seeing what the style mavens are doing in homes.
Another thing about living and getting older, it gets harder to maintain one's health and surprising and annoying things happen to ones body. Also as we age, we are faced with new heart break as loved partners die and friends die and our universe is altered and we must face and do face some very hard and sad things. AND that too shapes us and usually makes us more compassionate to others. We do keep learning and we do change and I do think the overall wisdom of a healthy 80 year old is 20 years more complete than a sixty year old.
Those who are younger can wait and see if they agree with me.
roob1
09-27-2021, 07:26 AM
Are you taking into consideration the cognitive decline we ALL experience as we age? You need to weigh this against "amassed more information". Possibly overall, one loses information, despite efforts to increase information. But it seems we can certainly delay decline with conscious effort (unless of course significant dementia sets in).
I think when the experts indicate cognitive decline, this happens despite our efforts, and ongoing evaluative procedures would support this contention in most cases.
I wished to express that every year that we get older is a year we have amassed more information. The people who I know well who are my age continue to grow and learn and read and listen and absorb and think.
Yesterday out of a life long interest in Decor and keeping current and knowing what is going on and what is the latest "thing" I spent several hours looking at magazines on line and seeing rooms that are using the new colors and a completely new look. I didn't "like" the mustard yellow being used with a light pink and some other new things but now I am beginning to "get" the trends. Not because they are "right or wrong" just because I enjoy seeing what the style mavens are doing in homes.
Another thing about living and getting older, it gets harder to maintain one's health and surprising and annoying things happen to ones body. Also as we age, we are faced with new heart break as loved partners die and friends die and our universe is altered and we must face and do face some very hard and sad things. AND that too shapes us and usually makes us more compassionate to others. We do keep learning and we do change and I do think the overall wisdom of a healthy 80 year old is 20 years more complete than a sixty year old.
Those who are younger can wait and see if they agree with me.
golfing eagles
09-27-2021, 07:31 AM
I wished to express that every year that we get older is a year we have amassed more information. The people who I know well who are my age continue to grow and learn and read and listen and absorb and think.
Yesterday out of a life long interest in Decor and keeping current and knowing what is going on and what is the latest "thing" I spent several hours looking at magazines on line and seeing rooms that are using the new colors and a completely new look. I didn't "like" the mustard yellow being used with a light pink and some other new things but now I am beginning to "get" the trends. Not because they are "right or wrong" just because I enjoy seeing what the style mavens are doing in homes.
Another thing about living and getting older, it gets harder to maintain one's health and surprising and annoying things happen to ones body. Also as we age, we are faced with new heart break as loved partners die and friends die and our universe is altered and we must face and do face some very hard and sad things. AND that too shapes us and usually makes us more compassionate to others. We do keep learning and we do change and I do think the overall wisdom of a healthy 80 year old is 20 years more complete than a sixty year old.
Those who are younger can wait and see if they agree with me.
Are you taking into consideration the cognitive decline we ALL experience as we age? You need to weigh this against "amassed more information". Possibly overall, one loses information, despite efforts to increase information. But it seems we can certainly delay decline with conscious effort (unless of course significant dementia sets in).
I think when the experts indicate cognitive decline, this happens despite our efforts, and ongoing evaluative procedures would support this contention in most cases.
Silly me---I though this thread was about speeding :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
JMintzer
09-27-2021, 07:35 AM
Silly me---I though this thread was about speeding :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
Apparently, now it's about home decorating...
The mind does wander at times... :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
graciegirl
09-27-2021, 07:39 AM
Are you taking into consideration the cognitive decline we ALL experience as we age? You need to weigh this against "amassed more information". Possibly overall, one loses information, despite efforts to increase information. But it seems we can certainly delay decline with conscious effort (unless of course significant dementia sets in).
I think when the experts indicate cognitive decline, this happens despite our efforts, and ongoing evaluative procedures would support this contention in most cases.
Do We Really Get Dumber As We Grow Older? (https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulrodgers/2014/01/31/do-we-really-get-dumber-as-we-grow-older/?sh=66285c042b2b)
Ksfirefighter
09-27-2021, 08:05 AM
In no way am I encouraging dangerous or unlawful driving habits, but I have noticed several police speed traps, or better known as traffic enforcement areas popping-up within our community. There has been daily speed traps for the past two weeks on Warm Spring Avenue near Meggison Road which is just north of the Florida Turnpike. There has been increased police traffic enforcement during the weekdays and primarily during the afternoon. I saw some poor guy get pulled over for maybe going 10 - 15 mph over the posted speed limit. I understand he was speeding a little, but really.
Which other areas of our community should I pay special attention when driving? Always be safe and please drive safely.
If the speed limit is 35 and you are going 15 over thats 50 mph. Way too fast!
In no way am I encouraging dangerous or unlawful driving habits, but I have noticed several police speed traps, or better known as traffic enforcement areas popping-up within our community. There has been daily speed traps for the past two weeks on Warm Spring Avenue near Meggison Road which is just north of the Florida Turnpike. There has been increased police traffic enforcement during the weekdays and primarily during the afternoon. I saw some poor guy get pulled over for maybe going 10 - 15 mph over the posted speed limit. I understand he was speeding a little, but really.
Which other areas of our community should I pay special attention when driving? Always be safe and please drive safely.
There was a vehicular accident there recently and someone was killed.
Bilyclub
09-27-2021, 08:20 AM
HOW ABOUT SOME HELP SLOWING DOWN SPEEDING ON PINELLAS BETWEEN BUENA VISTA AND 466A ?…. Residents can’t get out safely!
Sumter County has been setting up on Pinellas.Didn't help the idiot who t-boned the tree on the SW corner of Hendry with his red Vette.
golfing eagles
09-27-2021, 08:30 AM
If the speed limit is 35 and you are going 15 over thats 50 mph. Way too fast!
In your opinion. It's clearly speeding and should get ticketed, but is it "way too fast"? Depends on the road. Linden Blvd. in Brooklyn is a divided highway 3 lanes in each direction with a median. The posted limit is 30---is 45 "way too fast"? Apparently not, since most are driving it at 55-60. Wrong--yes, Illegal---yes. But perhaps it was a ridiculous speed limit to start with. Food for thought since the only reason I can see for 35 on BV is to allow those idiotic "street legal" carts on that road.
Dr Winston O Boogie jr
09-27-2021, 08:41 AM
the roundabout at Meggison Rd is the scene of several accidents due to excessive speed. Enforcement appears to be the correct solution.
There is no round about at Meggison and Warm Springs.
You might be thinking of the round about at Warm Springs and Fenney Way. There were two accidents there. Both involved alcohol as well as excessive speed.
That round about is a bit different than most other round abouts in The Villages. The speed limit on Warm Springs is 45 mph and it suddenly changes to 20 mph. There's not a lot of time to slow down. If you're not familiar with the area it would be fairly easy to be speeding when you get to that round about. But you'd also have to be impaired to not realize that you can't go around that round about at 45 mph.
Ewalsh43
09-27-2021, 09:54 AM
In no way am I encouraging dangerous or unlawful driving habits, but I have noticed several police speed traps, or better known as traffic enforcement areas popping-up within our community. There has been daily speed traps for the past two weeks on Warm Spring Avenue near Meggison Road which is just north of the Florida Turnpike. There has been increased police traffic enforcement during the weekdays and primarily during the afternoon. I saw some poor guy get pulled over for maybe going 10 - 15 mph over the posted speed limit. I understand he was speeding a little, but really.
Which other areas of our community should I pay special attention when driving? Always be safe and please drive safely.
Speeding “a little” is the same as
Kinda robbing a bank. Either your speeding or not. If you drive responsibly you never need to fear the policeman with a ticket book. Alerting everyone is a disservice.
nn0wheremann
09-27-2021, 10:02 AM
In no way am I encouraging dangerous or unlawful driving habits, but I have noticed several police speed traps, or better known as traffic enforcement areas popping-up within our community. There has been daily speed traps for the past two weeks on Warm Spring Avenue near Meggison Road which is just north of the Florida Turnpike. There has been increased police traffic enforcement during the weekdays and primarily during the afternoon. I saw some poor guy get pulled over for maybe going 10 - 15 mph over the posted speed limit. I understand he was speeding a little, but really.
Which other areas of our community should I pay special attention when driving? Always be safe and please drive safely.
Do the crime, pay the fine.
Travelingal702
09-27-2021, 10:30 AM
What do people not understand about it? I told my kids, "If you get a ticket
for speeding, own up to it and don't try to get your friends to "fix" it for you. Take the punishment. Told this to my grandkids, too. My oldest grandson called me one day and said, "Grandmom, it worked . I was speeding and the cop pulled me over. I told him, Yes, I know was speeding, I apologize and I will slow down". The cop was so surprised that he let my grandson off with a warning.
Penglobal
09-27-2021, 11:07 AM
Actually, if you receive a citation, you have been "arrested." You were just released at the scene on your signature, promising to satisfy the citation or appear in court. "Arrested" and "taken into custody" are not always the same thing. One can be taken into custody for any violation, but of course that is generally not practical or necessary. Don't believe me? Next time an officer asks for your signature on a citation, try telling him/her, "to heck with you...I ain't signing that." See what happens.
Sorry to disagree, but you are 100% wrong. In the State of Florida as in most states, a civil traffic citation for any NON-CRIMINAL offense, such as in most speeding tickets is a civil infraction and is not an arrestable offense and YOUR signature on a majority of citations is not required.
Penglobal
09-27-2021, 11:17 AM
There was a vehicular accident there recently and someone was killed.
Driving is probably the most dangerous activity each one of us participates in everyday.
From Google, "For all of 2020, 38,680 people died on U.S. roads - up 7.2% or nearly 2,600 more than in 2019, even though Americans drove 13% fewer miles, preliminary data showed. The fatality rate hit 1.37 deaths per 100 million miles, the highest figure since 2006.Jun 3, 2021"
Aqtlow
09-27-2021, 11:46 AM
Speeding is traveling faster than a roads posted limit.
It Is like being pregnant, you either are or you are not.
Do I speed , more often than I should.
Tks for the friendly reminder to slow down, where do I think I am going, every day is like Sunday.
Joe C.
09-27-2021, 11:51 AM
In Florida, you must be doing in excess of 5 mph over the limit before a LEO can issue a speeding ticket. So if you get pulled over, then IMHO, you have no complaint. Speeding isn't so much of a problem as is vehicles not coming to a complete stop at stop signs. Also vehicles (Spanish Springs Town Square) making left turns at a right turn only sign and vice versa.
NotGolfer
09-27-2021, 01:45 PM
I've been stopped twice for speeding. The 1st time I was and deserved my ticket. The officer sarcasticly said "haste makes waste" as he handed me my ticket. THAT made me further angrier. I was speeding due to being late (not my fault by the way) and needed to pick someone up. THIS was many years ago---in the early 70's. The the 2nd time---stopped again and told I was going more than the posted limit. I was dumb-founded and might have said as much. When he went back to his vehicle he was there awhile then came back and his only words were---"I should have made this a warning so I'll give you that but next time adhere to the law". My thinking without truly knowing is he made the mistake. The road has a 4-way and the opposite road is more in the country so might have been posted differently. I hadn't see him when I passed through it. He had it in his mind my speed was the other one (confusing, yes?) I know better to watch it because getting tickets aren't worth the hassle to deal with.
On another note---I had a "light bulb" moment this weekend. I had to be on a muscle relaxant for a condition I have. I decided to half it and take 2mg instead of 4mg. Good thing too. BOTH times I took it my thought processes were slow and muddled (hard to explain). I had to stay home and good thing! Anyway, I'd venture to say that people here might be on a plethora of meds that do similar. Hence some of the behaviors, driving issues and more.
As for the fast-speeds! I hate the intersections like 44/B.V. and Morse. Always wait to see if someone will blow through at the last minute (red light) and ram our vehicle. THIS is what some of those accidents are. At the lights of 466 and Morse as well as B.V. too.
Incoblack1
09-27-2021, 08:46 PM
Why don't people realize that it is a much nicer world when everyone plays by the same rules! But some folks don't respect rules!
DIver0258
09-28-2021, 06:34 AM
In no way am I encouraging dangerous or unlawful driving habits, but I have noticed several police speed traps, or better known as traffic enforcement areas popping-up within our community. There has been daily speed traps for the past two weeks on Warm Spring Avenue near Meggison Road which is just north of the Florida Turnpike. There has been increased police traffic enforcement during the weekdays and primarily during the afternoon. I saw some poor guy get pulled over for maybe going 10 - 15 mph over the posted speed limit. I understand he was speeding a little, but really.
Which other areas of our community should I pay special attention when driving? Always be safe and please drive safely.
LEO usually won't bother a driver that is 5 to 8 over unless in a school zone. Allow enough time to reach your destination and take a relaxed drive. Our community appear to have 2 speeds wide open or a crawl. Many seniors drive slower as their reflexes are generally slower, others are in a huge hurry. The majority of the time the driver flying weaving in and out of traffic is waiting at the next light. Where we hail from in GA 10 over is a steep fine & 15 over gets you a day in court.
golfing eagles
09-29-2021, 06:45 AM
Speeding “a little” is the same as
Kinda robbing a bank. Either your speeding or not. If you drive responsibly you never need to fear the policeman with a ticket book. Alerting everyone is a disservice.
Ridiculous analogy, comparing a graduated offense to a yes/no scenario. It's like saying you performed just as well with a D- as an A+ on a test because it was pass/fail grading. And going 31 in a 30 zone is like "robbing a bank"???? And driving 31 in a 30 zone is "irresponsible"????
golfing eagles
09-29-2021, 09:08 AM
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VApeople
09-30-2021, 08:52 AM
I hate the intersections like 44/B.V. and Morse. Always wait to see if someone will blow through at the last minute (red light) and ram our vehicle. THIS is what some of those accidents are.
Yeah, I am very cautious at those intersections. I drive a car with a manual transmission, so I have the car in neutral when I am waiting for the light to turn green.
When it turns green, I slowly press the clutch and put the car in first gear, and look to see if someone is running the red light. Then I move out into the line of fire (i.e. the main road).
Aloha1
09-30-2021, 03:50 PM
If this community really cared about the issues that arise, all would be at the count/state door to improve the roads conditions.All roundabouts are not safe. This needs to be re-engineered. Go to the state or county to discuss removing all round-abouts.
The roundabout just north of Meggison on Warm Springs is the perfect example. Two lanes going north merge to 1 exiting the roundabout combined with one lane coming from the west. Yet just a couple hundred feet further, Warm Springs is 2 lanes again. What the heck were they thinking?? Should have stayed two lanes all the way through with a separate merge lane for the west lane traffic from Southern Oaks.
VApeople
10-01-2021, 08:06 AM
The roundabout just north of Meggison on Warm Springs is the perfect example. Two lanes going north merge to 1 exiting the roundabout combined with one lane coming from the west. Yet just a couple hundred feet further, Warm Springs is 2 lanes again. What the heck were they thinking?
When we approach that roundabout from the south, we always make sure we are in the left lane.
There are other roundabouts in The Villages that have the same problem.
MSchad
10-01-2021, 12:14 PM
In no way am I encouraging dangerous or unlawful driving habits, but I have noticed several police speed traps, or better known as traffic enforcement areas popping-up within our community. There has been daily speed traps for the past two weeks on Warm Spring Avenue near Meggison Road which is just north of the Florida Turnpike. There has been increased police traffic enforcement during the weekdays and primarily during the afternoon. I saw some poor guy get pulled over for maybe going 10 - 15 mph over the posted speed limit. I understand he was speeding a little, but really.
Which other areas of our community should I pay special attention when driving? Always be safe and please drive safely.
So it’s ok with you if people using your street go 15 mph faster?
golfing eagles
10-01-2021, 03:50 PM
So it’s ok with you if people using your street go 15 mph faster?
Please, please, PLEASE tell us you are NOT comparing 15 mph over the limit on an interstate or rt 44 with a dead end in a patio villa neighborhood. Please:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
JMintzer
10-01-2021, 04:21 PM
Please, please, PLEASE tell us you are NOT comparing 15 mph over the limit on an interstate or rt 44 with a dead end in a patio villa neighborhood. Please:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
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VApeople
10-02-2021, 07:31 AM
So it’s ok with you if people using your street go 15 mph faster?
Please, please, PLEASE tell us you are NOT comparing 15 mph over the limit on an interstate or rt 44 with a dead end in a patio villa neighborhood.
How about first answering the question from MSchad.
golfing eagles
10-02-2021, 12:08 PM
How about first answering the question from MSchad.
OK, ask a silly question, get a silly answer: I live on I-75, it's OK with me.
PS: The first post in response answered the question.
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