View Full Version : Is the Moderna Vaccine authorized for the booster shot or not?
coffeebean
09-25-2021, 02:34 PM
MSM is reporting that Moderna has not received EAU for booster shots, even for immunocompromised people. People who have received their immunizations from Moderna will just have to wait for their booster shots. They even said that thousands of people have already received Moderna booster shots that should not have received them because Moderna booster shots are not yet authorized. I heard this from Lester Holt (NBC) and from Nora O'Donnell (CBS). I know many of you do not consider these news sources to be reliable so now I'm starting to wonder just how reliable they are. Can't believe I even said that!
I went to the Johns Hopkins website, as recommended by someone on another thread. Johns Hopkins states that they are administering Pfizer and Moderna booster shots to those who have a "qualifying medical condition". This is from the Johns Hopkins website, FAQ..........
"Is Johns Hopkins offering third shots of the Covid-19 vaccines?
Yes. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has authorized an additional COVID-19 vaccine dose for people who received either the Pfizer-BioNTech or the Moderna COVID-19 vaccines and have a qualifying medical condition, as defined by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). A third shot has been authorized only for the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines.
People with a qualifying medical condition who have received either the Pfizer-BioNTech or the Moderna COVID-19 vaccines are eligible to get an additional dose of the same vaccine at select Johns Hopkins Medicine vaccination clinics. Eligible people must schedule a COVID-19 vaccine third dose in advance, as follows:
Schedule online through MyChart. View scheduling instructions.
Schedule by phone at 443-997-1875, Monday through Friday, from 7 a.m. to 5 p.m.
The FDA and CDC continue to evaluate data regarding the need for additional doses for other populations. For now, those who received the Janssen/Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine are not eligible to receive any additional doses of any authorized COVID-19 vaccines. Read more about getting a COVID-19 third dose at Johns Hopkins Medicine."
This is the Johns Hopkins website with this information. I consider Johns Hopkins to be a reliable source......
COVID-19 Vaccination Guidance for Johns Hopkins Medicine Patients | Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Updates (https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/coronavirus/covid-19-vaccine/for-patients.html)
jbartle1
09-25-2021, 02:55 PM
Not yet!
coffeebean
09-25-2021, 03:07 PM
Not yet!
So.......Lester and Nora are telling the truth? So glad to hear that.
Having said that..... Hubby saw a "desk" set up at Colony Publix to register people for the Moderna booster shot. I guess Publix hasn't received the memo.
Michael G.
09-25-2021, 03:12 PM
Is the Moderna Vaccine authorized for the booster shot or not?
Depends on who you want to believe.
Remember when the first two shots was the complete answer to this b.s.
John Mayes
09-25-2021, 03:19 PM
MSM is reporting that Moderna has not received EAU for booster shots, even for immunocompromised people. People who have received their immunizations from Moderna will just have to wait for their booster shots. They even said that thousands of people have already received Moderna booster shots that should not have received them because Moderna booster shots are not yet authorized. I heard this from Lester Holt (NBC) and from Nora O'Donnell (CBS). I know many of you do not consider these news sources to be reliable so now I'm starting to wonder just how reliable they are. Can't believe I even said that!
I went to the Johns Hopkins website, as recommended by someone on another thread. Johns Hopkins states that they are administering Pfizer and Moderna booster shots to those who have a "qualifying medical condition". This is from the Johns Hopkins website, FAQ..........
"Is Johns Hopkins offering third shots of the Covid-19 vaccines?
Yes. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has authorized an additional COVID-19 vaccine dose for people who received either the Pfizer-BioNTech or the Moderna COVID-19 vaccines and have a qualifying medical condition, as defined by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). A third shot has been authorized only for the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines.
People with a qualifying medical condition who have received either the Pfizer-BioNTech or the Moderna COVID-19 vaccines are eligible to get an additional dose of the same vaccine at select Johns Hopkins Medicine vaccination clinics. Eligible people must schedule a COVID-19 vaccine third dose in advance, as follows:
Schedule online through MyChart. View scheduling instructions.
Schedule by phone at 443-997-1875, Monday through Friday, from 7 a.m. to 5 p.m.
The FDA and CDC continue to evaluate data regarding the need for additional doses for other populations. For now, those who received the Janssen/Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine are not eligible to receive any additional doses of any authorized COVID-19 vaccines. Read more about getting a COVID-19 third dose at Johns Hopkins Medicine."
This is the Johns Hopkins website with this information. I consider Johns Hopkins to be a reliable source......
COVID-19 Vaccination Guidance for Johns Hopkins Medicine Patients | Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Updates (https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/coronavirus/covid-19-vaccine/for-patients.html)
Do you have a “qualifying medical condition”? Moderna has not received approval yet for a third shot for most people.
J&J, Moderna and Pfizer: What We Know About Booster Shots So Far – NBC Chicago (https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/coronavirus/johnson-johnson-moderna-and-pfizer-what-we-know-about-booster-shots-so-far/2618188/)
Bill14564
09-25-2021, 03:33 PM
Back in August an EUA was issued for third shots of both Pfizer and Moderna for certain immunocompromised individuals. Recently, an EUA was issued for a booster shot of Pfizer for those 65 and over and some other groups.
A Google search can find the actual CDC notifications
billethkid
09-25-2021, 05:10 PM
This link states Moderna's position on the third shot.
Moderna Asks FDA To Authorize A Booster Shot Of Its COVID-19 Vaccine. : Coronavirus Updates : NPR (https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/09/01/1033474298/moderna-fda-covid-19-booster-shot)
All the rest of the arm waving is either special interest motivated,
or the inefficient process of approvals (on top of approvals).
Moderna was and still is under the "emergency approval to distribute" awaiting all the rubber stamps and quid quo pros to take place.
I don't see Moderna changing anything after approval that they are doing or not doing today.
We got our third dose yesterday at Publix. They require an appointment that can only be made on line. Very user friendly site (Google Publix third shot). Our appointments were 1:00 and 1:15 PM and on our way by 1:20 PM.
Side effects? None!
coffeebean
09-25-2021, 06:35 PM
Do you have a “qualifying medical condition”? Moderna has not received approval yet for a third shot for most people.
J&J, Moderna and Pfizer: What We Know About Booster Shots So Far – NBC Chicago (https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/coronavirus/johnson-johnson-moderna-and-pfizer-what-we-know-about-booster-shots-so-far/2618188/)
From what I saw on last night's news, Moderna does not have authorization for anyone to have booster shots, even if someone has a "qualifying medical condition".
coffeebean
09-25-2021, 06:41 PM
Back in August an EUA was issued for third shots of both Pfizer and Moderna for certain immunocompromised individuals. Recently, an EUA was issued for a booster shot of Pfizer for those 65 and over and some other groups.
A Google search can find the actual CDC notifications
I just found this from FDA.gov from August 12th. Seems Moderna does have authorization for booster shots for immunocompromised. I wish the media would get this straight. There is conflicting information about the Moderna booster authorization.
Coronavirus (COVID-19) Update: FDA Authorizes Additional Vaccine Dose for Certain Immunocompromised Individuals | FDA (https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-authorizes-additional-vaccine-dose-certain-immunocompromised)
OrangeBlossomBaby
09-25-2021, 07:50 PM
I just found this from FDA.gov from August 12th. Seems Moderna does have authorization for booster shots for immunocompromised. I wish the media would get this straight. There is conflicting information about the Moderna booster authorization.
Coronavirus (COVID-19) Update: FDA Authorizes Additional Vaccine Dose for Certain Immunocompromised Individuals | FDA (https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-authorizes-additional-vaccine-dose-certain-immunocompromised)
This is why you should always go to the source of information, when you want to know the information.
If you want an analysis of the information, or opinions about the information, or an investigative report about the source of the information, you go to the media.
If the media says something and you want to know if there's truth to it, go to the source. Always. Don't say "oh well CNN says X therefore it's fake news" or "Fox stated that and that makes it fake news."
This doesn't apply to breitbart, newsmax, the onion, or oann, because all four are, by definition, fake news.
YankeesFan
09-25-2021, 08:08 PM
MSM is reporting that Moderna has not received EAU for booster shots, even for immunocompromised people. People who have received their immunizations from Moderna will just have to wait for their booster shots. They even said that thousands of people have already received Moderna booster shots that should not have received them because Moderna booster shots are not yet authorized. I heard this from Lester Holt (NBC) and from Nora O'Donnell (CBS). I know many of you do not consider these news sources to be reliable so now I'm starting to wonder just how reliable they are. Can't believe I even said that!
I went to the Johns Hopkins website, as recommended by someone on another thread. Johns Hopkins states that they are administering Pfizer and Moderna booster shots to those who have a "qualifying medical condition". This is from the Johns Hopkins website, FAQ..........
"Is Johns Hopkins offering third shots of the Covid-19 vaccines?
Yes. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has authorized an additional COVID-19 vaccine dose for people who received either the Pfizer-BioNTech or the Moderna COVID-19 vaccines and have a qualifying medical condition, as defined by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). A third shot has been authorized only for the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines.
People with a qualifying medical condition who have received either the Pfizer-BioNTech or the Moderna COVID-19 vaccines are eligible to get an additional dose of the same vaccine at select Johns Hopkins Medicine vaccination clinics. Eligible people must schedule a COVID-19 vaccine third dose in advance, as follows:
Schedule online through MyChart. View scheduling instructions.
Schedule by phone at 443-997-1875, Monday through Friday, from 7 a.m. to 5 p.m.
The FDA and CDC continue to evaluate data regarding the need for additional doses for other populations. For now, those who received the Janssen/Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine are not eligible to receive any additional doses of any authorized COVID-19 vaccines. Read more about getting a COVID-19 third dose at Johns Hopkins Medicine."
This is the Johns Hopkins website with this information. I consider Johns Hopkins to be a reliable source......
COVID-19 Vaccination Guidance for Johns Hopkins Medicine Patients | Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Updates (https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/coronavirus/covid-19-vaccine/for-patients.html)
Just because it’s FDA approved doesn’t mean it’s good for your body. A lot of things that are good for your body are not FDA approved.
JMintzer
09-25-2021, 08:33 PM
This doesn't apply to breitbart, newsmax, the onion, or oann, because all four are, by definition, fake news.
Fake News? Says you...
And The Onion is a freakin' PARODY site!
John Mayes
09-25-2021, 09:11 PM
Amen
Garywt
09-25-2021, 09:26 PM
I have actually had my Moderma booster back in August. My doctor called me and scheduled it so I got it. I am not going to question my doctor.
rjn5656
09-26-2021, 04:28 AM
Got our Moderna booster at Villages Discount Pharmacy on Rt 44. They have all 3 booster, Pfizer, Moderna and JJ.
Sensei
09-26-2021, 05:00 AM
The research university founded by a man who " recently discovered records offer strong evidence that Johns Hopkins held enslaved people in his home until at least the mid-1800s." is not a source of "truth". The University, without question, is a fake institution seeking to enslave the minds of free thinking patriots.
maggie1
09-26-2021, 05:19 AM
The research university founded by a man who " recently discovered records offer strong evidence that Johns Hopkins held enslaved people in his home until at least the mid-1800s." is not a source of "truth". The University, without question, is a fake institution seeking to enslave the minds of free thinking patriots.
You’re kidding, right?
bovelsky
09-26-2021, 06:01 AM
I got my booster shot of Moderna at Publix. If you want one just schedule it
MSM is reporting that Moderna has not received EAU for booster shots, even for immunocompromised people. People who have received their immunizations from Moderna will just have to wait for their booster shots. They even said that thousands of people have already received Moderna booster shots that should not have received them because Moderna booster shots are not yet authorized. I heard this from Lester Holt (NBC) and from Nora O'Donnell (CBS). I know many of you do not consider these news sources to be reliable so now I'm starting to wonder just how reliable they are. Can't believe I even said that!
I went to the Johns Hopkins website, as recommended by someone on another thread. Johns Hopkins states that they are administering Pfizer and Moderna booster shots to those who have a "qualifying medical condition". This is from the Johns Hopkins website, FAQ..........
"Is Johns Hopkins offering third shots of the Covid-19 vaccines?
Yes. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has authorized an additional COVID-19 vaccine dose for people who received either the Pfizer-BioNTech or the Moderna COVID-19 vaccines and have a qualifying medical condition, as defined by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). A third shot has been authorized only for the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines.
People with a qualifying medical condition who have received either the Pfizer-BioNTech or the Moderna COVID-19 vaccines are eligible to get an additional dose of the same vaccine at select Johns Hopkins Medicine vaccination clinics. Eligible people must schedule a COVID-19 vaccine third dose in advance, as follows:
Schedule online through MyChart. View scheduling instructions.
Schedule by phone at 443-997-1875, Monday through Friday, from 7 a.m. to 5 p.m.
The FDA and CDC continue to evaluate data regarding the need for additional doses for other populations. For now, those who received the Janssen/Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine are not eligible to receive any additional doses of any authorized COVID-19 vaccines. Read more about getting a COVID-19 third dose at Johns Hopkins Medicine."
This is the Johns Hopkins website with this information. I consider Johns Hopkins to be a reliable source......
COVID-19 Vaccination Guidance for Johns Hopkins Medicine Patients | Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Updates (https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/coronavirus/covid-19-vaccine/for-patients.html)
MDLNB
09-26-2021, 06:08 AM
I plan to ask that my antibodies be checked when I get my annual blood work done in Nov. Then if my doctor suggests it, I will kick around the idea of a booster. At this time, mass hysteria has not caused me to rush into something I may not need.
Funny, how folks say that you should get the vaccination to protect your family and then do not consider a booster the same way. The booster right now is only for the immune compromised. Lets all play the flip-flop game. Of course, I am healthy and do not need the booster, but I am sure someone will be adamant about EVERYONE getting the booster, just as they were about the original vaccination. And the vinyl disk just keeps spinning.
Luggage
09-26-2021, 06:13 AM
The answer is a wink and a nod to the pharmacist. No one is telling you you need to bring in a doctor's note and I know many people that have gotten the booster shot already from moderna
Joanne19335
09-26-2021, 06:30 AM
So.......Lester and Nora are telling the truth? So glad to hear that.
Having said that..... Hubby saw a "desk" set up at Colony Publix to register people for the Moderna booster shot. I guess Publix hasn't received the memo.
I got my Moderna booster two weeks ago at Publix and I am not immunocompromised. They were also offering the Pfizer booster. You can make an appointment online.
5632@embarqmail.com
09-26-2021, 06:32 AM
I got my booster of moderna last week at CVS
daca55
09-26-2021, 06:48 AM
Saw this article in the NY Times concerning The Moderna Vaccine. Maybe we don’t need a 3rd booster shot of Moderna.
Moderna vs. Pfizer: Both Knockouts, but One Seems to Have the Edge - NewsBreak (https://www.newsbreakapp.com/n/0c4j6FCz?pd=02mUOuNC&lang=en_US&s=i16)
matandch
09-26-2021, 06:58 AM
I’m over 65 and got my 3rd Moderna (booster) shot at Publix last week because my doctor told me to. That’s good enough for me.
barbief
09-26-2021, 07:09 AM
I don't know anything about the authorizations, but both my husband and I received our boosters a couple of weeks ago (Moderna) at our doctor's office at The Villages Health at Colony. I am diabetic and he is 69.
MrFlorida
09-26-2021, 07:35 AM
Hoping this thing will go away so we don't need a booster shot.
Dotneko
09-26-2021, 07:43 AM
We got our boosters of Moderna 3 weeks ago at Publix. Pharmacist said they were throwing doses away, so happy to put them in arms.
yankygrl
09-26-2021, 07:57 AM
MSM is reporting that Moderna has not received EAU for booster shots, even for immunocompromised people. People who have received their immunizations from Moderna will just have to wait for their booster shots. They even said that thousands of people have already received Moderna booster shots that should not have received them because Moderna booster shots are not yet authorized. I heard this from Lester Holt (NBC) and from Nora O'Donnell (CBS). I know many of you do not consider these news sources to be reliable so now I'm starting to wonder just how reliable they are. Can't believe I even said that!
I went to the Johns Hopkins website, as recommended by someone on another thread. Johns Hopkins states that they are administering Pfizer and Moderna booster shots to those who have a "qualifying medical condition". This is from the Johns Hopkins website, FAQ..........
"Is Johns Hopkins offering third shots of the Covid-19 vaccines?
Yes. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has authorized an additional COVID-19 vaccine dose for people who received either the Pfizer-BioNTech or the Moderna COVID-19 vaccines and have a qualifying medical condition, as defined by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). A third shot has been authorized only for the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines.
People with a qualifying medical condition who have received either the Pfizer-BioNTech or the Moderna COVID-19 vaccines are eligible to get an additional dose of the same vaccine at select Johns Hopkins Medicine vaccination clinics. Eligible people must schedule a COVID-19 vaccine third dose in advance, as follows:
Schedule online through MyChart. View scheduling instructions.
Schedule by phone at 443-997-1875, Monday through Friday, from 7 a.m. to 5 p.m.
The FDA and CDC continue to evaluate data regarding the need for additional doses for other populations. For now, those who received the Janssen/Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine are not eligible to receive any additional doses of any authorized COVID-19 vaccines. Read more about getting a COVID-19 third dose at Johns Hopkins Medicine."
This is the Johns Hopkins website with this information. I consider Johns Hopkins to be a reliable source......
COVID-19 Vaccination Guidance for Johns Hopkins Medicine Patients | Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Updates (https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/coronavirus/covid-19-vaccine/for-patients.html)
Yes many in the area are getting 3rd shots “boosters” for many reasons, but as I have heard and read, Moderna has not yet been authorized by FDA to distribute immunizations as boosters.
Halbraun
09-26-2021, 08:09 AM
I am a liver transplant and take drugs to reduce my immune system to avoid rejection.. Studies showed that people with solid organ transplant and similar conditions did not reach the same level of protection as "normal" people with two shots. This "third shot" was given to to this specific group of people to help them reach that higher level of protection. It is not a "booster" per se.
Coronavirus (COVID-19) Update: FDA Authorizes Additional Vaccine Dose for Certain Immunocompromised Individuals | FDA (https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-authorizes-additional-vaccine-dose-certain-immunocompromised)
"Booster" shots (of which only the Pfizer is currently approved) are the result of normal healthy people showing a reduced response after 6 months. This is an entirely different condition than the above action taken in August.
billethkid
09-26-2021, 08:13 AM
Moderna and J&J are still authorized by CDC for "emergency" use.......which all of us who have the first two doses received.....with no FDA full approval.
See first paragraph in link below:
Get Vaccine Answers | How we know COVID-19 vaccines… | The Ad Council (https://getvaccineanswers.org/question/vaccine-safety?gclid=Cj0KCQjwtMCKBhDAARIsAG-2Eu8MPBRMaxysu6JrPqGPjFTkl31SrlMlBBnnLSUak0VltwbQc CBvsk0aAntHEALw_wcB#are-the-covid-19-vaccines-fully-approved-by-the-fda)
The so called procedural approval process moves very slowly and inefficiently and influenced by special interest and other controlling groups.
The Moderna third dose is no less "approved" than the first two shots.....all doses are the same formulation and dosage!
The approval status is a well worn, misunderstood red herring!!!!
Slk9786
09-26-2021, 08:15 AM
We received our Moderna booster 3 weeks ago while visiting family in Virginia.
Bonnevie
09-26-2021, 08:16 AM
So.......Lester and Nora are telling the truth? So glad to hear that.
Having said that..... Hubby saw a "desk" set up at Colony Publix to register people for the Moderna booster shot. I guess Publix hasn't received the memo.
yes, but when I asked about Moderna he said only immunocompromised are eligible
n8xwb
09-26-2021, 08:19 AM
A third shot of Moderna is not a "booster". It is a third shot and is available to immunocompromised individuals.
It is available from Publix.
Aloha1
09-26-2021, 08:29 AM
Moderna and J&J are still authorized by CDC for "emergency" use.......which all of us who have the first two doses received.....with no FDA full approval.
See first paragraph in link below:
Get Vaccine Answers | How we know COVID-19 vaccines… | The Ad Council (https://getvaccineanswers.org/question/vaccine-safety?gclid=Cj0KCQjwtMCKBhDAARIsAG-2Eu8MPBRMaxysu6JrPqGPjFTkl31SrlMlBBnnLSUak0VltwbQc CBvsk0aAntHEALw_wcB#are-the-covid-19-vaccines-fully-approved-by-the-fda)
The so called procedural approval process moves very slowly and inefficiently and influenced by special interest and other controlling groups.
The Moderna third dose is no less "approved" than the first two shots.....all doses are the same formulation and dosage!
The approval status is a well worn, misunderstood red herring!!!!
However, Moderna is stating that only a 50% dose is needed for the 3rd shot. That's what they are asking approval for, not a 3rd shot of the same strength as the first two. So, can you ask for for only a 50% shot at Publix?
OhioBuckeye
09-26-2021, 08:40 AM
Been hearing to many bad things about the 2 that we already got. Think I’m going to wait until the last min. to get the booster!
Jill Klein
09-26-2021, 08:48 AM
The Moderna booster when approved will be 50% strength of the original shots. Still in testing.
M2inOR
09-26-2021, 08:49 AM
My wife went to our Villages Health PCP 10 days ago to take care of another issue. While there, she asked about getting a flu shot, and what’s up with booster shots for COVID. I’m 68, wife is 67. We are both on the UHC Medicare Advantage Plan and in excellent health.
She was told we could both get Moderna booster if we wanted, and if we got it, we should wait at least 2 weeks after to get the flu shot.
As it was late on a Friday, we made an appt to return on Monday to get the booster. We both had received our 2nd Moderna jab early in February 2021.
We got our booster. I had no reaction after mine. My wife was a bit tired for a day, and her arm was a little sore for a day. We played golf, and carried on with a whirlwind of activities this past week. No lasting after effects at all.
We’re off to Disneyworld later this week for a few days for their 50th Anniversary celebration, and then off to St Petersburg the next week to see the grandkids.
We do understand that the vaccine is not for everyone. We see that each country is dealing with vaccines differently for its residents. Some even mix the different vaccines, like my cousins reported in Canada.
For us, we are healthy, and hope to remain so. We understand that the vaccines are experimental, but they seem to be working for us. It seems that we are ok, but no one knows for sure the long term effects.
Let’s all hope that the science is right, and that we all learn more as to why some are more susceptible to COVID, why some are more susceptible to side effects from the vaccine, and why some people remain unaffected by COVID whether vaccinated or not.
Each of us needs to decide what to do.
Nucky
09-26-2021, 08:50 AM
However, Moderna is stating that only a 50% dose is needed for the 3rd shot. That's what they are asking approval for, not a 3rd shot of the same strength as the first two. So, can you ask for for only a 50% shot at Publix?
Our Doctor ordered the third shot for my wife and myself. We both had a Moderna shot and it was a full dose just like the first and second ones were.
The Third Shot hit me hard for several days. I can't believe it but the Third Shot is hitting my wife pretty hard. She's usually like the Energizer Bunny, not today. :pray: It's sad to see her wiped out like that but the trade off is well worth it. That's my opinion. Respect it please. She had almost no reaction to Shot #1 & #2.
rdwalls
09-26-2021, 08:52 AM
Wife and I got ours at Publix in Trailwinds about two weeks ago.
billethkid
09-26-2021, 08:53 AM
However, Moderna is stating that only a 50% dose is needed for the 3rd shot. That's what they are asking approval for, not a 3rd shot of the same strength as the first two. So, can you ask for for only a 50% shot at Publix?
No.
I asked about the 1/2 dose Moderna study.
The pharmacy goes by what is approved....a dose the same as the first two.
M2inOR
09-26-2021, 09:00 AM
Approval for Moderna booster is expected “soon”:
CDC issues booster guildelines for Pfizer COVID vaccine, with Moderna and J&J next. What to know - CNET (https://www.cnet.com/health/cdc-issues-booster-guildelines-for-pfizer-covid-vaccine-with-moderna-and-j-j-next-what-to-know/)
dpmers
09-26-2021, 10:34 AM
MSM is reporting that Moderna has not received EAU for booster shots, even for immunocompromised people. People who have received their immunizations from Moderna will just have to wait for their booster shots. They even said that thousands of people have already received Moderna booster shots that should not have received them because Moderna booster shots are not yet authorized. I heard this from Lester Holt (NBC) and from Nora O'Donnell (CBS). I know many of you do not consider these news sources to be reliable so now I'm starting to wonder just how reliable they are. Can't believe I even said that!
I went to the Johns Hopkins website, as recommended by someone on another thread. Johns Hopkins states that they are administering Pfizer and Moderna booster shots to those who have a "qualifying medical condition". This is from the Johns Hopkins website, FAQ..........
"Is Johns Hopkins offering third shots of the Covid-19 vaccines?
Yes. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has authorized an additional COVID-19 vaccine dose for people who received either the Pfizer-BioNTech or the Moderna COVID-19 vaccines and have a qualifying medical condition, as defined by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). A third shot has been authorized only for the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines.
People with a qualifying medical condition who have received either the Pfizer-BioNTech or the Moderna COVID-19 vaccines are eligible to get an additional dose of the same vaccine at select Johns Hopkins Medicine vaccination clinics. Eligible people must schedule a COVID-19 vaccine third dose in advance, as follows:
Schedule online through MyChart. View scheduling instructions.
Schedule by phone at 443-997-1875, Monday through Friday, from 7 a.m. to 5 p.m.
The FDA and CDC continue to evaluate data regarding the need for additional doses for other populations. For now, those who received the Janssen/Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine are not eligible to receive any additional doses of any authorized COVID-19 vaccines. Read more about getting a COVID-19 third dose at Johns Hopkins Medicine."
This is the Johns Hopkins website with this information. I consider Johns Hopkins to be a reliable source......
COVID-19 Vaccination Guidance for Johns Hopkins Medicine Patients | Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Updates (https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/coronavirus/covid-19-vaccine/for-patients.html)
My wife received her Moderna booster shot from Mayo, she is immunocompromised, I got mine from the VA after receiving a call from them to schedule an appointment. I also have immune system issues
Escape Artist
09-26-2021, 10:57 AM
All of this speculation about the Modern vaccine as well as testimony by many they've already received the booster goes to show this isn't a very organized or "official" undertaking. No one seems to know what's going on, doctor's are instructing patients to get boosters, pharmacies are giving boosters to the public even though they don't have authorization yet from the CDC/FDA because they don't want to throw away vaccines, etc. It's very disturbing. The CDC just overrode the FDA's recommendation for the Pfizer booster for only 65 and over and immune-compromised but that just happened a couple of days ago, yet I'm reading people have been getting boosters for weeks now.
JMintzer
09-26-2021, 11:01 AM
The answer is a wink and a nod to the pharmacist. No one is telling you you need to bring in a doctor's note and I know many people that have gotten the booster shot already from moderna
They either lied to the pharmacist, or the pharmacist is not following the guidelines...
SCIENCE!
JMintzer
09-26-2021, 11:03 AM
Moderna and J&J are still authorized by CDC for "emergency" use.......which all of us who have the first two doses received.....with no FDA full approval.
See first paragraph in link below:
Get Vaccine Answers | How we know COVID-19 vaccines… | The Ad Council (https://getvaccineanswers.org/question/vaccine-safety?gclid=Cj0KCQjwtMCKBhDAARIsAG-2Eu8MPBRMaxysu6JrPqGPjFTkl31SrlMlBBnnLSUak0VltwbQc CBvsk0aAntHEALw_wcB#are-the-covid-19-vaccines-fully-approved-by-the-fda)
The so called procedural approval process moves very slowly and inefficiently and influenced by special interest and other controlling groups.
The Moderna third dose is no less "approved" than the first two shots.....all doses are the same formulation and dosage!
The approval status is a well worn, misunderstood red herring!!!!
Moderna itself hasn't said you need a booster, unless you're immunocompromised...
coffeebean
09-26-2021, 11:24 AM
I got my Moderna booster two weeks ago at Publix and I am not immunocompromised. They were also offering the Pfizer booster. You can make an appointment online.
Actually, I had an appointment with my PCP for this past week which I cancelled. When I saw the news report (that I spoke of in my OP) on the NBC nightly news with Lester then saw the same report by Nora on CBS, I decided to cancel my appointment. I'll wait for the Moderna vaccine booster to have EUA for the general population. I'll be happy to wait my turn and get my booster when the general population is given the OK to do so.
jimjamuser
09-26-2021, 11:29 AM
MSM is reporting that Moderna has not received EAU for booster shots, even for immunocompromised people. People who have received their immunizations from Moderna will just have to wait for their booster shots. They even said that thousands of people have already received Moderna booster shots that should not have received them because Moderna booster shots are not yet authorized. I heard this from Lester Holt (NBC) and from Nora O'Donnell (CBS). I know many of you do not consider these news sources to be reliable so now I'm starting to wonder just how reliable they are. Can't believe I even said that!
I went to the Johns Hopkins website, as recommended by someone on another thread. Johns Hopkins states that they are administering Pfizer and Moderna booster shots to those who have a "qualifying medical condition". This is from the Johns Hopkins website, FAQ..........
"Is Johns Hopkins offering third shots of the Covid-19 vaccines?
Yes. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has authorized an additional COVID-19 vaccine dose for people who received either the Pfizer-BioNTech or the Moderna COVID-19 vaccines and have a qualifying medical condition, as defined by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). A third shot has been authorized only for the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines.
People with a qualifying medical condition who have received either the Pfizer-BioNTech or the Moderna COVID-19 vaccines are eligible to get an additional dose of the same vaccine at select Johns Hopkins Medicine vaccination clinics. Eligible people must schedule a COVID-19 vaccine third dose in advance, as follows:
Schedule online through MyChart. View scheduling instructions.
Schedule by phone at 443-997-1875, Monday through Friday, from 7 a.m. to 5 p.m.
The FDA and CDC continue to evaluate data regarding the need for additional doses for other populations. For now, those who received the Janssen/Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine are not eligible to receive any additional doses of any authorized COVID-19 vaccines. Read more about getting a COVID-19 third dose at Johns Hopkins Medicine."
This is the Johns Hopkins website with this information. I consider Johns Hopkins to be a reliable source......
COVID-19 Vaccination Guidance for Johns Hopkins Medicine Patients | Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Updates (https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/coronavirus/covid-19-vaccine/for-patients.html)
The NY Times morning report said that the FDA is still REVIEWING the Moderna booster. J and J has not yet sent in an application to the FDA. And yes, many people on this forum have said that they have received some Pfizer and Moderna 3rd shote........some talked THEIR Doctor into giving it to them........and some just went into a drug chain and got them by lying - cheap shot ( pun intended) con artists!
coffeebean
09-26-2021, 11:34 AM
Saw this article in the NY Times concerning The Moderna Vaccine. Maybe we don’t need a 3rd booster shot of Moderna.
Moderna vs. Pfizer: Both Knockouts, but One Seems to Have the Edge - NewsBreak (https://www.newsbreakapp.com/n/0c4j6FCz?pd=02mUOuNC&lang=en_US&s=i16)
I'm not able to read the entire article (pay wall?). What does it say?
coffeebean
09-26-2021, 11:58 AM
Approval for Moderna booster is expected “soon”:
CDC issues booster guildelines for Pfizer COVID vaccine, with Moderna and J&J next. What to know - CNET (https://www.cnet.com/health/cdc-issues-booster-guildelines-for-pfizer-covid-vaccine-with-moderna-and-j-j-next-what-to-know/)
Thank you for posting this article dated September 25, 2021. The following is an excerpt and is exactly what I heard reported on NBC's Lester Holt and CBS's Nora O'Donnell......
The CDC decision applies just to those vaccinated with the Pfizer vaccine and not for those who received the Moderna or Johnson & Johnson vaccines. A booster recommendation for those two vaccines is expected in the coming weeks, US Surgeon General Vivek Murthy said on Friday.
Let me go one step further. All these providers (physicians and pharmacies) who are administering the third shots of Moderna (AKA boosters by some) are just not listening to or following the guidance of the CDC. Am I understanding that correctly???
Phinbob
09-26-2021, 11:59 AM
Both my wife and I had 3rd shot of Moderna at Publix. We signed up and made an appointment. We are both in our 70’s. We did not lie, as some seem to think is necessary in order to get the shot.
coffeebean
09-26-2021, 12:02 PM
Oops. Duplicate post.
jimjamuser
09-26-2021, 12:30 PM
Thank you for posting this article dated September 25, 2021. The following is an excerpt and is exactly what I heard reported on NBC's Lester Holt and CBS's Nora O'Donnell......
The CDC decision applies just to those vaccinated with the Pfizer vaccine and not for those who received the Moderna or Johnson & Johnson vaccines. A booster recommendation for those two vaccines is expected in the coming weeks, US Surgeon General Vivek Murthy said on Friday.
Let me go one step further. All these providers (physicians and pharmacies) who are administering the third shots of Moderna (AKA boosters by some) are just not listening to or following the guidance of the CDC. Am I understanding that correctly???
Yes, you are!
virtualcynthia
09-26-2021, 12:56 PM
I got my booster yesterday. I decided to go to my dr. Because I always feel that as a medical professional they are up to date. We’ll, I received Pfizer #2 in Feb. Understanding that Pfizer is the only one authorized, I schedule an appointment. Go in, give them my card, get the shot and pick up my card. Then I see that I received MODERNA. I told the aide my two shot vaccination was Pfizer. She tells me not to worry, they’re the same, they’re only giving Moderna. now I’m hoping I don’t pee green or glow in the dark.
Villageswimmer
09-26-2021, 01:05 PM
Do you have a “qualifying medical condition”? Moderna has not received approval yet for a third shot for most people.
J&J, Moderna and Pfizer: What We Know About Booster Shots So Far – NBC Chicago (https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/coronavirus/johnson-johnson-moderna-and-pfizer-what-we-know-about-booster-shots-so-far/2618188/)
Tell Publix.
Escape Artist
09-26-2021, 01:15 PM
I got my booster yesterday. I decided to go to my dr. Because I always feel that as a medical professional they are up to date. We’ll, I received Pfizer #2 in Feb. Understanding that Pfizer is the only one authorized, I schedule an appointment. Go in, give them my card, get the shot and pick up my card. Then I see that I received MODERNA. I told the aide my two shot vaccination was Pfizer. She tells me not to worry, they’re the same, they’re only giving Moderna. ������ now I’m hoping I don’t pee green or glow in the dark.
Wow, this is a total sh*tshow! Why would the pharmacies/doctors be so eager to give boosters? Are they remunerated/getting kickbacks in some way for using up all their vaccines?
Welp, I guess you can't say Florida is anti-vaccine. Everyone seems to be all about it this time around.
MDLNB
09-26-2021, 01:21 PM
I got my Moderna booster two weeks ago at Publix and I am not immunocompromised. They were also offering the Pfizer booster. You can make an appointment online.
Just to be one the safe side, why not go ahead and get the Pfizer booster also?:clap2:
Just kidding. Had to add that caveat since some will ultimately take the statement seriously.
M2inOR
09-26-2021, 02:06 PM
Re: mixing vaccines
Several countries, including Canada and Israel are mixing vaccines.
There is no single, authoritative agency worldwide with the answer.
Some studies even state that the Moderna is more effective than Pfizer.
coffeebean
09-26-2021, 02:11 PM
I got my booster yesterday. I decided to go to my dr. Because I always feel that as a medical professional they are up to date. We’ll, I received Pfizer #2 in Feb. Understanding that Pfizer is the only one authorized, I schedule an appointment. Go in, give them my card, get the shot and pick up my card. Then I see that I received MODERNA. I told the aide my two shot vaccination was Pfizer. She tells me not to worry, they’re the same, they’re only giving Moderna. ������ now I’m hoping I don’t pee green or glow in the dark.
Sorry to hear this. No, they are not the same. They are both mRNA vaccines but seems Moderna is coming out ahead of Pfizer with real life efficiency of the vaccine.
Your mishap is the reason why I verified with the person giving me my second shot that the vaccine was Moderna , BEFORE my injection was administered to me. I will verify again when I get my third shot and make sure it is Moderna before the injection is given to me.
M2inOR
09-26-2021, 02:13 PM
Can You Mix COVID-19 Vaccines? Here's What the Experts Say | Shape (https://www.shape.com/lifestyle/mind-and-body/mixing-covid-19-vaccines)
Garywt
09-26-2021, 02:31 PM
Hoping this thing will go away so we don't need a booster shot.
Not going anywhere, too many people refuse to participate.
Koapaka
09-26-2021, 02:47 PM
Just because it’s FDA approved doesn’t mean it’s good for your body. A lot of things that are good for your body are not FDA approved.
And a lot of things NOT good for your body are not FDA approved for that very reason.....
Koapaka
09-26-2021, 02:49 PM
Incorrect statement. NOT going anywhere because it has crossed the boundaries of human/animal transmission. Since so many animals have proven to be COVID positive, you will NEVER be able to vaccinate humans into immunity. The ONLY way vaccination would work is IF it were only human transmitted disease, which it is NOT. USDA APHIS | SARS-CoV-2 in Animals in the United States (https://www.aphis.usda.gov/aphis/ourfocus/animalhealth/SA_One_Health/sars-cov-2-animals-us)
JMintzer
09-26-2021, 04:02 PM
Thank you for posting this article dated September 25, 2021. The following is an excerpt and is exactly what I heard reported on NBC's Lester Holt and CBS's Nora O'Donnell......
The CDC decision applies just to those vaccinated with the Pfizer vaccine and not for those who received the Moderna or Johnson & Johnson vaccines. A booster recommendation for those two vaccines is expected in the coming weeks, US Surgeon General Vivek Murthy said on Friday.
Let me go one step further. All these providers (physicians and pharmacies) who are administering the third shots of Moderna (AKA boosters by some) are just not listening to or following the guidance of the CDC. Am I understanding that correctly???
I've been saying that over, and over, and over again....
JMintzer
09-26-2021, 04:04 PM
I got my booster yesterday. I decided to go to my dr. Because I always feel that as a medical professional they are up to date. We’ll, I received Pfizer #2 in Feb. Understanding that Pfizer is the only one authorized, I schedule an appointment. Go in, give them my card, get the shot and pick up my card. Then I see that I received MODERNA. I told the aide my two shot vaccination was Pfizer. She tells me not to worry, they’re the same, they’re only giving Moderna. ������ now I’m hoping I don’t pee green or glow in the dark.
Well, 1... They're not the same...
And 2... No, it shouldn't hurt you at all...
But once again, SCIENCE!
JMintzer
09-26-2021, 04:06 PM
Wow, this is a total sh*tshow! Why would the pharmacies/doctors be so eager to give boosters? Are they remunerated/getting kickbacks in some way for using up all their vaccines?
Welp, I guess you can't say Florida is anti-vaccine. Everyone seems to be all about it this time around.
And people can't understand why there are people who don't trust what the Government is telling them...
coffeebean
09-26-2021, 05:38 PM
And people can't understand why there are people who don't trust what the Government is telling them...
My 2 cents...... the government jumped the gun and misspoke. Wishful thinking made them do it.
talleyjm
09-26-2021, 06:38 PM
This is why you should always go to the source of information, when you want to know the information.
If you want an analysis of the information, or opinions about the information, or an investigative report about the source of the information, you go to the media.
If the media says something and you want to know if there's truth to it, go to the source. Always. Don't say "oh well CNN says X therefore it's fake news" or "Fox stated that and that makes it fake news."
This doesn't apply to breitbart, newsmax, the onion, or oann, because all four are, by definition, fake news.
Whose definition?
JMintzer
09-26-2021, 07:55 PM
Whose definition?
If you have to ask... :icon_wink:
jagdl
09-26-2021, 09:50 PM
Third doses of both shots were approved for people who were immunocompromised. These were specified not as boosters but as necessary in the series of first dose for people who were not building the full antibodies due to medical conditions (HIV, Cancer treatments, RA treatments, etc.) All of these treatments shut down your natural immunities in order to all the drugs to come in and kill these diseases.
Now comes the booster shot. Pfizer applied for and got approval for booster shots for people whose antibodies start waning. The CDC only recommended the BOOSTER shot for people 65 and older. Yes, it is exactly the same shot that those receiving a 3rd shot are getting but there is a distinction about why people are receiving it.
Moderna has not yet applied for approval for the booster dose. 3rd shot doses are approved.
If anyone is getting the 3rd shot of Moderna right now it is because they are attesting that they are immunocompromised individuals and meet the criteria.
matandch
09-27-2021, 04:52 AM
You don’t have to lie. Most doctors and Publix will give you a Moderna 3rd shot if you’re 65+ and at least 6 months past your 2nd shot. These seem to be the minimum qualifications for the 3rd Moderna shot. You don’t have to “talk” anyone into anything. I resent your calling those of us you met those qualifications and got the shot liars and con artists!
coffeebean
09-27-2021, 05:19 AM
You don’t have to lie. Most doctors and Publix will give you a Moderna 3rd shot if you’re 65+ and at least 6 months past your 2nd shot. These seem to be the minimum qualifications for the 3rd Moderna shot. You don’t have to “talk” anyone into anything. I resent your calling those of us you met those qualifications and got the shot liars and con artists!
IMHO, I wouldn't call it "lying" but confusion on the provider's parts and also the general public regarding the Moderna third vaccine shot for the general public over the age of 65 and NOT immunocompromised. This is getting complicated. People need simplicity and this has become anything but simple.
5632@embarqmail.com
09-27-2021, 05:39 AM
Got mine a week ago at CVS in target applied on CVS website
MarcStephen
09-27-2021, 06:28 AM
Since the beginning of COVID, I sought out advice from my physician and people in the field of medicine rather than follow CDC! It would be best to contact your doctor than listen to Fauci because he’s a political junkie IMHO! Just my two cents! As of this writing, this is what I found at Moderna website which another go to for me over MSM and NIH and CDC! Moderna Announces Positive Initial Booster Data Against SARS-CoV-2 Variants of Concern | Moderna, Inc. (https://investors.modernatx.com/news-releases/news-release-details/moderna-announces-positive-initial-booster-data-against-sars-cov)
JMintzer
09-27-2021, 06:36 AM
You don’t have to lie. Most doctors and Publix will give you a Moderna 3rd shot if you’re 65+ and at least 6 months past your 2nd shot. These seem to be the minimum qualifications for the 3rd Moderna shot. You don’t have to “talk” anyone into anything. I resent your calling those of us you met those qualifications and got the shot liars and con artists!
Well either the pharmacists are not following protocol, or people are lying about their immunosuppressed status... Pick one...
GeriS
09-27-2021, 06:36 AM
This is why you should always go to the source of information, when you want to know the information.
If you want an analysis of the information, or opinions about the information, or an investigative report about the source of the information, you go to the media.
If the media says something and you want to know if there's truth to it, go to the source. Always. Don't say "oh well CNN says X therefore it's fake news" or "Fox stated that and that makes it fake news."
This doesn't apply to breitbart, newsmax, the onion, or oann, because all four are, by definition, fake news.
They are all fake news.
M2inOR
09-27-2021, 06:37 AM
This is getting complicated. People need simplicity and this has become anything but simple.
Back in August we had several in the administration declaring that boosters would be available starting in September. Since then there have been discussions, pro and con. Some focused on fairness - should those vaccines go to other countries? To unvaccinated? Others were worried whether EAU was issued. Still more are still concerned about the trials underway.
We did not get, we did not lie. We simply asked about the flu vaccine and getting a booster. We were not pushed or tricked into getting either. It was explained to us that both were available if we wanted them. Only caution was to not take them together, and suggestion was to get COVID vaccine first, and then wait at least 2 weeks before getting a flu shot.
As mentioned previously, we got the 1st and 2nd back in early Jan and Feb 2021. Me no reaction to either. Wife slightly tired and a sore arm for a day or 2 after the 2nd.
For the 3rd, no reaction for me, slightly tired for my wife.
I am happy this 3rd shot was available. It wasn't forced on us. We made a personal choice.
For those concerned, or confused, no one is forcing anyone to get that booster.
For those that got a booster, or 3rd shot willingly, that may be better than the pharmacies and clinics having to worry about vaccines about to expire.
I'm happy that Villages Health planned ahead, and ordered vaccines in preparation for a Sept 20th rollout. I'm glad the CDC sliced thru the rhetoric, and made a recommendation back in August 2021.
Joint Statement from HHS Public Health and Medical Experts on COVID-19 Booster Shots | CDC Online Newsroom | CDC (https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s0818-covid-19-booster-shots.html)
JMintzer
09-27-2021, 06:38 AM
IMHO, I wouldn't call it "lying" but confusion on the provider's parts and also the general public regarding the Moderna third vaccine shot for the general public over the age of 65 and NOT immunocompromised. This is getting complicated. People need simplicity and this has become anything but simple.
Or, the pharmacists are coaching people to lie...
My golfing buddy went to his local CVS (here in MD) and was told "We're only supposed to give this to immunosuppressed people. All you have to do is attest you're immunosuppressed and you're good to go!"
GeriS
09-27-2021, 06:39 AM
Wow, this is a total sh*tshow! Why would the pharmacies/doctors be so eager to give boosters? Are they remunerated/getting kickbacks in some way for using up all their vaccines?
Welp, I guess you can't say Florida is anti-vaccine. Everyone seems to be all about it this time around.
Follow the money. Who is getting rich, or should I say richer from this?
GeriS
09-27-2021, 06:40 AM
Back in August we had several in the administration declaring that boosters would be available starting in September. Since then there have been discussions, pro and con. Some focused on fairness - should those vaccines go to other countries? To unvaccinated? Others were worried whether EAU was issued. Still more are still concerned about the trials underway.
We did not get, we did not lie. We simply asked about the flu vaccine and getting a booster. We were not pushed or tricked into getting either. It was explained to us that both were available if we wanted them. Only caution was to not take them together, and suggestion was to get COVID vaccine first, and then wait at least 2 weeks before getting a flu shot.
As mentioned previously, we got the 1st and 2nd back in early Jan and Feb 2021. Me no reaction to either. Wife slightly tired and a sore arm for a day or 2 after the 2nd.
For the 3rd, no reaction for me, slightly tired for my wife.
I am happy this 3rd shot was available. It wasn't forced on us. We made a personal choice.
For those concerned, or confused, no one is forcing anyone to get that booster.
For those that got a booster, or 3rd shot willingly, that may be better than the pharmacies and clinics having to worry about vaccines about to expire.
I'm happy that Villages Health planned ahead, and ordered vaccines in preparation for a Sept 20th rollout. I'm glad the CDC sliced thru the rhetoric, and made a recommendation back in August 2021.
Joint Statement from HHS Public Health and Medical Experts on COVID-19 Booster Shots | CDC Online Newsroom | CDC (https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s0818-covid-19-booster-shots.html)
Then there will be the 4th, 5th and so on.
Linnberg
09-27-2021, 07:00 AM
yes, but when I asked about Moderna he said only immunocompromised are eligible
Publix in almost all locations will give moderna 3rd vaccine shot/booster with or without online appointment except weekends do require apppomgments.
You fill out form and get it and barely wait. They will update your card.
We got ours at Southern Trace. We have a friend who
Originally had Pfizer and she got Moderna booster at Publix as well.
They also have booster combined with flu shot
But recommended I wait a couple weeks between shots instead.
Not discussing CDC/FDA, personal or political issues; just discussing facts of getting 3rd dose in The Villages.
M2inOR
09-27-2021, 07:10 AM
More from the WSJ this morning:
Covid Booster Shot Authorization Leaves Many With Questions
For doctors, the queries are coming fast and furious: Am I eligible for a booster? After six months or eight months? What if I got Moderna or Johnson & Johnson?
Americans have reached the booster angst stage of the pandemic—and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s announcement on Friday backing extra shots for some people, but not all, has left many with more questions than answers.
In August, with the Delta variant surging and breakthrough infections rising, the Biden administration indicated boosters would be widely available in the U.S. starting this month. After heavy debate among scientists, the CDC ultimately endorsed boosters for a narrower group. Yet its guidance left plenty of room for interpretation about who qual- ifies, doctors say.
“The patient portal is being overrun with emails from patients,” says Mark Fierstein, a primary care physician at NYU Langone Ambulatory Care Lake Success in New York. “There’s a lot of questions. The confusion is because every day someone comes out and says something a little different.”
“The booster conversation has people’s heads spinning,” says Laura Morris, a family physician in Fulton, Mo. She says some patients have been asking about boosters all summer, including whether they are really necessary. Several asked about them Friday; she gave two patients, both in their 70s, the extra shots.
The CDC said Pfizer vaccine recipients who are 65 and over, as well as people ages 50 to 64 with certain underlying medical conditions, should get boosters. It also laid out other groups of people who may get boosters, based on their risk levels and potential benefits, prompting a host of new questions and decision-making. For recipients of the Moderna and J&J vaccines, the FDA and CDC have said that they need more time to review data.
Lucy Ballentine, a 33-year-old in Washington, D.C., is pregnant. Pregnancy and her age likely put her in the category of people who the CDC said “may” receive a booster, but the agency didn’t explicitly say they “should” receive a booster. Ms. Ballentine says she’s interested in getting a booster shot but has questions for her midwife. She wants to know whether she should get one before she gives birth, or wait until after.
If her midwife says she should get it while pregnant, Ms. Ballentine says, “I want to pass on as many antibodies as possible.”
The biggest gray area now is for people ages 18 to 49, doctors say. “That is definitely the group that probably needs to have the most counseling and probably we need to take a closer look at what their individual risk is,” says Dr. Morris.
In that group, doctors say it’s important to look at occupation, where people live and work, who they are commonly exposed to, and their health. Dr. Morris says she has a healthy patient in that age bracket who cares for her mother who is severely immunocompromised. She wanted a booster earlier this week but Dr. Morris told her to hold off; now, she says she’d recommend that the patient get one.
Cameron Wolfe, associate professor of medicine in the division of infectious diseases at Duke University health system, says the guidelines give doctors a lot of flexibility for 18- to 49year-olds. “We’re going to use this in a fairly permissive fashion. If someone is interested and tolerated the first two doses and it’s been six months, I think this is open,” he says.
Some of the questions to consider, he says: “What sort of work do you do? Who’s at home with you who might be at higher risk? Can you afford a couple of weeks off if you get sick? How did you tolerate the first two doses? Have you had Covid before?”
Many people who don’t obviously qualify now are anxious to know when they will. Lauren Lipowicz, a 41-year-old real-estate agent in Lower Merion, Pa., is eager for a booster and will ask her doctor when she might be eligible.
“I want it now,” she says, adding that she won’t get one until she qualifies. “I don’t have an underlying condition and I don’t believe I qualify for having a high-risk job, but if they tell me I can, then I will be the first in line,” she says. She got Covid in August 2020, and got vaccinated this year. “I don’t want to ever have to go through that again,” she says of the virus.
Erica Aikey, a 20-year-old Boston University student who received her second Pfizer shot in June, wants to know when, or if, boosters will be available for people her age. “I’m in in-person classes, in a big city,” she says. “I’d like to put myself in a healthier position.”
Linnberg
09-27-2021, 07:16 AM
You don’t have to lie. Most doctors and Publix will give you a Moderna 3rd shot if you’re 65+ and at least 6 months past your 2nd shot. These seem to be the minimum qualifications for the 3rd Moderna shot. You don’t have to “talk” anyone into anything. I resent your calling those of us you met those qualifications and got the shot liars and con artists!
Starting to sou d like the roof issue. Those who did not get theirs for free except deductible saying that everyone who did was a scam rather than a
Loophole where insurance companies had to finally pay out because their policies allowed full replacement value for hail or
Wind damage regardless of age. Of course, new
Policies will no longer provide those words.
Joanne19335
09-27-2021, 07:19 AM
So.......Lester and Nora are telling the truth? So glad to hear that.
Having said that..... Hubby saw a "desk" set up at Colony Publix to register people for the Moderna booster shot. I guess Publix hasn't received the memo.
I got my Moderna booster at Publix two weeks ago.
Joanne19335
09-27-2021, 07:21 AM
I received my Moderna booster at Publix at Southern Trace two weeks ago.
JMintzer
09-27-2021, 07:31 AM
Starting to sou d like the roof issue. Those who did not get theirs for free except deductible saying that everyone who did was a scam rather than a
Loophole where insurance companies had to finally pay out because their policies allowed full replacement value for hail or
Wind damage regardless of age. Of course, new
Policies will no longer provide those words.
Good to know. I'll remember this when I go get my booster shot... :icon_wink::icon_wink::icon_wink:
JMintzer
09-27-2021, 07:33 AM
I received my Moderna booster at Publix at Southern Trace two weeks ago.
Well, it looks as if they're revising their policy and NOW are following the CDC/FDA guidelines,,,
Once again, a booster for Moderna has NOT YET BEEN APPROVED!
Jacob85
09-27-2021, 07:53 AM
My husband got a Moderna shot for the immunocompromised at Publix two weeks ago.
Jacob85
09-27-2021, 08:04 AM
They are learning as they go. That is science! Of course they hoped two shots would do it. Things can change daily and if they didn’t then it would be a concern! The Israel studies show that you can have break through cases so need a booster. They are ahead of us. Nobody could know that in advance
billethkid
09-27-2021, 08:20 AM
Adding to the confusion:
Third shot, booster, third dose, et al being used interchangeably.
Approval, authorized, emergency authorization all used interchangeably.
Many make an assumption that if one has received their third dose, they are cheating/lying.
Many make an assumption if the provider gave the third dose they were not following the rules.
Right or wrong individual opinions.....like this post!
Luggage
09-27-2021, 08:35 AM
still the best place is your OWN DOCTOR
This is why you should always go to the source of information, when you want to know the information.
If you want an analysis of the information, or opinions about the information, or an investigative report about the source of the information, you go to the media.
If the media says something and you want to know if there's truth to it, go to the source. Always. Don't say "oh well CNN says X therefore it's fake news" or "Fox stated that and that makes it fake news."
This doesn't apply to breitbart, newsmax, the onion, or oann, because all four are, by definition, fake news.
coffeebean
09-27-2021, 10:02 AM
still the best place is your OWN DOCTOR
I don't know about that. Seems my PCP was not sure of the protocol for the Moderna vaccine. I was given an appointment for a third Moderna shot and as it turns out, I am not eligible at this time because I am not immunocompromised. I am over 65 but that is not enough criteria to qualify for the Moderna booster/3rd shot. As I have already posted upthread, I did cancel that appointment when I realized I was NOT eligible at this time.
Just this morning on The Today Show (NBC), during their reporting of who is eligible for the Moderna or J&J booster, there was HUGE text on the screen in red that said "NOT ELIGIBLE YET". So...........long story short......those who have already received a booster shot of Moderna or J&J, should not have received them YET. Confusion has led us to this.
MDLNB
09-27-2021, 10:07 AM
Or, the pharmacists are coaching people to lie...
My golfing buddy went to his local CVS (here in MD) and was told "We're only supposed to give this to immunosuppressed people. All you have to do is attest you're immunosuppressed and you're good to go!"
A family member just had his follow up visit and his doctor told him NOT to get a booster as he had plenty of antibodies. And he is diabetic, over weight and has hyper tension. AGAIN: His doctor told him NOT to get the booster.
Byte1
09-27-2021, 11:12 AM
Personally speaking, I have no plan to get the booster until at least my doctor says I should. Why would anyone take a medicine if they do not need it? I will get my antibodies checked way before I decide whether or not to get a booster. Seems like a slip-shod way of approaching something that may or may not happen. Kind of like taking an anti-venom shot before you go into the woods, just in case you get bit.
I have been reading about an Canadian study that has been done regarding side effects of the vaccine. Don't get me wrong, I have my shots and I will probably get a booster IF my doctor thinks it necessary. ONLY if he thinks it is necessary. But back to the Canadian study, they have found a percentage of serious side effects from the vaccine. Once again, I am just interested because it is good to do your due diligence when taking a medicine that is fairly new.
"..Canada’s University of Ottawa Heart Institute revealed that 1 in 1000 recipients of the vaccination suffer from heart inflammation also known as myopericarditis. "
"..15,997 doses of Moderna vaccine, and 16,382 doses of Pfizer vaccine administered over the study period, for a total of 32,379 doses. .. a mixture of first and second doses."
"32 patients were identified over the period of interest. Eighteen patients were diagnosed with myocarditis; 12 with myopericarditis; and 2 with pericarditis alone." (I have no idea what any of those are, but they seem serious to me.)
You may suggest that only 1 in 1000 show these serious side effects, based on the study. I agree, but.... if you are under 65 what are the chances of you even suffering from the virus, let alone dying from it? If you are over 65, then it is probably worth taking the chance, since an infection by the virus is so dangerous. Whether or not this study is valid or just more scare tactics, the point I am making is that I plan to consider my next step seriously and slowly, not jumping on the band wagon of getting a booster that I may not even need. I am going to get a blood test to see how much defense I have to the virus before joining the lemmings that are rushing toward the proverbial cliff.
I am not attempting to tell anyone NOT to get the booster, only to seek professional advise rather than joining a herd in a stampede to get there when you may be just as safe taking your time.
Escape Artist
09-27-2021, 11:44 AM
Personally speaking, I have no plan to get the booster until at least my doctor says I should. Why would anyone take a medicine if they do not need it? I will get my antibodies checked way before I decide whether or not to get a booster. Seems like a slip-shod way of approaching something that may or may not happen. Kind of like taking an anti-venom shot before you go into the woods, just in case you get bit.
I have been reading about an Canadian study that has been done regarding side effects of the vaccine. Don't get me wrong, I have my shots and I will probably get a booster IF my doctor thinks it necessary. ONLY if he thinks it is necessary. But back to the Canadian study, they have found a percentage of serious side effects from the vaccine. Once again, I am just interested because it is good to do your due diligence when taking a medicine that is fairly new.
"..Canada’s University of Ottawa Heart Institute revealed that 1 in 1000 recipients of the vaccination suffer from heart inflammation also known as myopericarditis. "
"..15,997 doses of Moderna vaccine, and 16,382 doses of Pfizer vaccine administered over the study period, for a total of 32,379 doses. .. a mixture of first and second doses."
"32 patients were identified over the period of interest. Eighteen patients were diagnosed with myocarditis; 12 with myopericarditis; and 2 with pericarditis alone." (I have no idea what any of those are, but they seem serious to me.)
You may suggest that only 1 in 1000 show these serious side effects, based on the study. I agree, but.... if you are under 65 what are the chances of you even suffering from the virus, let alone dying from it? If you are over 65, then it is probably worth taking the chance, since an infection by the virus is so dangerous. Whether or not this study is valid or just more scare tactics, the point I am making is that I plan to consider my next step seriously and slowly, not jumping on the band wagon of getting a booster that I may not even need. I am going to get a blood test to see how much defense I have to the virus before joining the lemmings that are rushing toward the proverbial cliff.
I am not attempting to tell anyone NOT to get the booster, only to seek professional advise rather than joining a herd in a stampede to get there when you may be just as safe taking your time.
Are there reliable antibody tests? For a long while there weren't. It seems that it's not something routine and that if you ask your doctor to get one they might refuse or say you don't need it. They (the CDC) just want you to keep getting multiple boosters for all eternity, not knowing what it may do to your immune system.
To keep getting a powerful dose of antibodies to a specific spike protein might cause your immune system to eventually attack itself. I've heard scientists and doctors discuss this as a possibility, or the opposite, that it's a form of therapy and eventually your system will not reject the spike protein from the virus much like when you receive allergy shots so your body eventually accepts the allergen as normal. Both are scary scenarios.
And oh, by the way, boosters still do not prevent infection. You can still get and shed Covid-19 and its variants.
MDLNB
09-27-2021, 01:59 PM
The answer to the OP about whether or not the Moderna booster has been approved is NO. Biden got his Pfizer booster today and said the other vaccines have not yet been approved.
JMintzer
09-27-2021, 05:53 PM
Adding to the confusion:
Third shot, booster, third dose, et al being used interchangeably.
Approval, authorized, emergency authorization all used interchangeably.
Many make an assumption that if one has received their third dose, they are cheating/lying.
Many make an assumption if the provider gave the third dose they were not following the rules.
Right or wrong individual opinions.....like this post!
Not an opinion at all. And I have made no assumptions.
The MODERNA vaccine has not yet been approved for a booster. That is a fact.
If you are getting one, the Pharmacy/Clinic/Dr's office are not following the CDC/FDA guidelines.
billethkid
09-27-2021, 05:58 PM
Not an opinion at all. And I have made no assumptions.
The MODERNA vaccine has not yet been approved for a booster. That is a fact.
If you are getting one, the Pharmacy/Clinic/Dr's office are not following the CDC/FDA guidelines.
The Moderna first and second doses are not yet "approved"....millions and millions.
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JMintzer
09-27-2021, 07:10 PM
The Moderna first and second doses are not yet "approved"....millions and millions.
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tedquick
09-27-2021, 09:33 PM
This is all that I know: my wife and I are part of the Moderna trials through a local company (we spend about 5 months a year in Omaha, NE.) called Meridian. I received the actual vaccine while my wife received a placebo. I got my second shot last October 9th and as of about three weeks ago still had anti-bodies. When Moderna un-blinded the study my wife got her two shots. She got her last shot in March and still has anti-bodies. We received calls just yesterday asking us if wanted a booster shot this Thursday at 7:00 P.M. Of course, we said "yes" since we have fewer anti-bodies now than we had months ago.
We are doing a scheduled follow-up tomorrow in Meridian's local office. This is a standard follow-up and not part of our booster this coming Thursday. We have been very impressed with the efficacy of Moderna's vaccine and Meridian's professional handling of the research study.
Calisport
09-28-2021, 12:26 AM
After 5 hours of chills in bed I will not take any more Moderna shots myself. I don't know why you need it unless you have health problems. Talked to a doctor that had covid for 9 days. He had only a fever and sweats.
Malsua
09-28-2021, 05:33 AM
Business Insider posted an article on Moderna.
Moderna Vs Pfizer Charts: Moderna Vaccine May Not Need Boosters As Much (https://www.businessinsider.com/moderna-vaccines-might-not-need-boosters-like-pfizer-2021-9)
>>Last week, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention released data sets from hospitals around the country. That data is starting to indicate that people who got Moderna's vaccine are less likely to be hospitalized than people who got Pfizer's or Johnson & Johnson's.<<
One suggested reason from the article.
>>Moderna's shot consists of 100 micrograms of mRNA vaccine, while Pfizer's has 30 micrograms. That may mean lighter side effects for Pfizer's shot but in the long run, the protection might not be as strong.<<
The other possible reason is dose spacing. Pfizer being 3 weeks, Moderna 4 weeks. The UK used even longer spacing, up to 12 weeks and it seems to matter.
coffeebean
09-28-2021, 09:52 AM
After 5 hours of chills in bed I will not take any more Moderna shots myself. I don't know why you need it unless you have health problems. Talked to a doctor that had covid for 9 days. He had only a fever and sweats.
If I were guaranteed of having ONLY fever and sweats ( throw in some chills too) if I contracted Covid, I would not have gotten the vaccine. I would also want a guarantee that I would have no long term effects from Covid.
No guarantee??? THAT is why I got myself vaccinated.
charlieo1126@gmail.com
09-28-2021, 10:20 AM
The VA sent me an email today if I wanted a booster , you can go to Gainesville no appointment needed or go to VA clinic Appointment preferred but will take walk-ins you must be eligible and it’s Pfizer only that’s the only one they have approved
MDLNB
09-28-2021, 01:34 PM
If I were guaranteed of having ONLY fever and sweats ( throw in some chills too) if I contracted Covid, I would not have gotten the vaccine. I would also want a guarantee that I would have no long term effects from Covid.
No guarantee??? THAT is why I got myself vaccinated.
If you have the Moderna vaccine, there is NO need to get the booster at this time. The moderna has three plus times the agent that Pfizer has, so it is still working.
I'll have my doctor check me for antibodies in Dec and then decide whether I feel it is worth getting it. After the side effects I had from the second shot, I think I would rather go through the virus. I know at least a dozen people that suffered only mild symptoms and none of them are in as good a shape as me.
John Mayes
09-28-2021, 03:15 PM
If I were guaranteed of having ONLY fever and sweats ( throw in some chills too) if I contracted Covid, I would not have gotten the vaccine. I would also want a guarantee that I would have no long term effects from Covid.
No guarantee??? THAT is why I got myself vaccinated.
Not trying to be argumentative, but what guarantees were you given of no long term effects from the vaccine? BTW….I’m not anti-vax, I’m actually pro-vax but those that worry about LT effects from the virus should also question the possible LT effects from the vaccine.
coffeebean
09-28-2021, 03:26 PM
Not trying to be argumentative, but what guarantees were you given of no long term effects from the vaccine? BTW….I’m not anti-vax, I’m actually pro-vax but those that worry about LT effects from the virus should also question the possible LT effects from the vaccine.
You have an excellent point. I decided to get myself vaccinated because the benefits outweighed the risks. I did a risk assessment and the vaccine won.
John Mayes
09-28-2021, 03:29 PM
You have an excellent point. I decided to get myself vaccinated because the benefits outweighed the risks. I did a risk assessment and the vaccine won.
And that’s a fair and reasonable response. I’m sure a lot of people are trying to do the same thing. Be safe.
JMintzer
09-28-2021, 04:09 PM
You have an excellent point. I decided to get myself vaccinated because the benefits outweighed the risks. I did a risk assessment and the vaccine won.
And that’s a fair and reasonable response. I’m sure a lot of people are trying to do the same thing. Be safe.
Just stop it, you two!
Reasonable, polite conversation like this has no place on TOTV! :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
billethkid
09-28-2021, 04:12 PM
Just stop it, you two!
Reasonable, polite conversation like this has no place on TOTV! :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
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M2inOR
09-28-2021, 09:25 PM
You have an excellent point. I decided to get myself vaccinated because the benefits outweighed the risks. I did a risk assessment and the vaccine won.
And this is why my wife and I got the 3rd shot.
We had no serious side effects from any of them.
For those that are susceptible to more serious side effects, we do understand your concern.
We also wish to know why some ARE more susceptible to side effects. We both thank our Slovak gene pool.
John Mayes
09-29-2021, 04:37 AM
Just stop it, you two!
Reasonable, polite conversation like this has no place on TOTV! :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
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