Experiencing the hospital

[NotGolfer]

I'm getting to experience TVH for the first time in a handful of years. VERY busy with patients varying with reasons to be there.. The main thing I've observed so far. they are short on staffing. With that, my care has been kind and thoughtful. The triage nurse told me the shortages won't be getting better neither. By 2026 they're saying a nurses shortage of 1 million. That's pretty significant.

[DAVES]

I'm getting to experience TVH for the first time in a handful of years. VERY busy with patients varying with reasons to be there.. The main thing I've observed so far. they are short on staffing. With that, my care has been kind and thoughtful. The triage nurse told me the shortages won't be getting better neither. By 2026 they're saying a nurses shortage of 1 million. That's pretty significant.

Perhaps, advice for people looking for a profession there are and will be openings. It is far from easy. Your customers are all ill. People you like die in your care. Oh and you get to deal with attorneys, insurance companies, etc etc etc. "Kind and thoughtful," imagine what she/he goes through. Perhaps, the patient just before you was abusive,drunk etc etc etc

[Vikingjunior]

Don't worry the 70,000 that NY is firing will make there way to Florida.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Don't worry the 70,000 that NY is firing will make there way to Florida.

And they'll be turned down too, until they get vaccinated.

[coffeebean]

Don't worry the 70,000 that NY is firing will make there way to Florida.

I would prefer they go elsewhere, to be honest.

[ronsroni]

Perhaps, advice for people looking for a profession there are and will be openings. It is far from easy. Your customers are all ill. People you like die in your care. Oh and you get to deal with attorneys, insurance companies, etc etc etc. "Kind and thoughtful," imagine what she/he goes through. Perhaps, the patient just before you was abusive,drunk etc etc etc

I am horrified by the incredibly LOW salaries paid to nurses
(across all types) are paid.
In this time in history, nursing personnel are EXPECTED to put their lives on the line and work long hours for UNDER 35K.
ARE YOU INSANE?
Geography changes but the DANGERS of Covid and antivaxers DO NOT IMPROVE.
Get with it. You want more staff?
Shoot the lock off your wallets and PAY THE FRONT LINE PROFESSIONALS.

[JMintzer]

I am horrified by the incredibly LOW salaries paid to nurses
(across all types) are paid.
In this time in history, nursing personnel are EXPECTED to put their lives on the line and work long hours for UNDER 35K.
ARE YOU INSANE?
Geography changes but the DANGERS of Covid and antivaxers DO NOT IMPROVE.
Get with it. You want more staff?
Shoot the lock off your wallets and PAY THE FRONT LINE PROFESSIONALS.

The average salary for new RNs in Florida is $49-78K/year...

[thelegges]

So far none of my family that works at facilities have mandated vaccine. Each facility is connected to hundreds of hospitals under same health groups. Three are travelers, with 800 open positions. Only a few have you weekly tested, if not vaccinated.

Anyone who goes into the healthcare field definitely knows the challenges prior to ever taking their boards, or that first Mcats.

The pandemic forced many into furlong time off. If you were not assigned to a Covid floor, your hours were cut to half, some all hours were cut. Leaving many with no income, or healthcare. Many didn’t receive the bail out free money from the government, because their employer chose to not allow it.

Many that were close to retiring in the next couple of years, chose to go early. As far as not wanting a unvaccinated healthcare worker taking care of you, just remember they worked the entire pandemic without a vaccine, or proper PPE. Yet they still took care of anyone who came to their facility.

Pretty sure if you don’t want them to continue what they have been doing since 2020, they will be happy to let you save yourself.

[Nucky]

I would prefer they go elsewhere, to be honest.

There is alway's a first time for everything correct?

This is the first time I wish I wish you weren't honest. :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[thelegges]

I would prefer they go elsewhere, to be honest.

I would bet you if are rolled in with a ruptured appendix, or a stemi, the last thing you will care about is who is vaccinated.

But if you do have that worry you can always walk out and find a different facility, or do the surgery yourself.
Just make sure you have a sharp knife. Vodka makes a good over the counter anesthetic, but it makes your hand shake a little.

Just remember they can live without you, most likely you will not live without them

[matandch]

Don't worry the 70,000 that NY is firing will make there way to Florida. That makes me feel safe. 🤨

[Two Bills]

[QUOTE=thelegges;2010262]So far none of my family that works at facilities have mandated vaccine. Each facility is connected to hundreds of hospitals under same health groups. Three are travelers, with 800 open positions. Only a few have you weekly tested, if not vaccinated.

Anyone who goes into the healthcare field definitely knows the challenges prior to ever taking their boards, or that first Mcats.

The pandemic forced many into furlong time off. If you were not assigned to a Covid floor, your hours were cut to half, some all hours were cut. Leaving many with no income, or healthcare. Many didn’t receive the bail out free money from the government, because their employer chose to not allow it.

Many that were close to retiring in the next couple of years, chose to go early. As far as not wanting a unvaccinated healthcare worker taking care of you, just remember they worked the entire pandemic without a vaccine, or proper PPE. Yet they still took care of anyone who came to their facility.

Pretty sure if you don’t want them to continue what they have been doing since 2020, they will be happy to let you save yourself.[/QUOTE



So many who condemn now, ignore the sacrifice many front line workers made during the pre-vaccine time!

[thevillages2013]

Don't worry the 70,000 that NY is firing will make there way to Florida.
I welcome them. They are the smart ones

[jdulej]

I welcome them. They are the smart ones

Great, 70,000 more "smart" people moving to Florida from up north. I'm starting to see a pattern.

[DaleDivine]

I welcome them. They are the smart ones

:bigbow::bigbow:

[Rwirish]

Great scoop. The nursing shortage cycle has been the same for the last 25 years.

[Conniehar]

I would bet you if are rolled in with a ruptured appendix, or a stemi, the last thing you will care about is who is vaccinated.

But if you do have that worry you can always walk out and find a different facility, or do the surgery yourself.
Just make sure you have a sharp knife. Vodka makes a good over the counter anesthetic, but it makes your hand shake a little.

Just remember they can live without you, most likely you will not live without them

The only thing she worries about is the vaccine

[Dasher0928]

Perhaps, advice for people looking for a profession there are and will be openings. It is far from easy. Your customers are all ill. People you like die in your care. Oh and you get to deal with attorneys, insurance companies, etc etc etc. "Kind and thoughtful," imagine what she/he goes through. Perhaps, the patient just before you was abusive,drunk etc etc etc

About 20 years ago, the nursing shift moved from 8 hours to 12 hours. This essentially reduced matured nurses from the work force. Part time and contingent positions are very rare. There is a lot of gold not being mined in the nursing field. Sad.

[Wyseguy]

I would prefer they go elsewhere, to be honest.

I would prefer the nurses who were heroes last year working during a pandemic be respected and allowed to help the patients in the Villages..Saying they should go elsewhere is saying neighbors should not be treated for heart attacks, strokes etc in a timely caring manner because there are not enough nurses.

[Bonnevie]

unfortunately, I have heard from staff here that's it's more difficult than other places to find nurses who want to work here. the reason is that our population is all the same, older, and many die. It's not the most rewarding type of nursing so they go elsewhere.

[JoelJohnson]

I recently spent 12 hours (overnight) in the ER waiting room (no beds available) until 6AM the next morning. Everything was OK, but they just didn't have enough help. The ER nurse said her shift was from 8pm to 9am. There were over a dozen people in the ER waiting room with various problems and she was doing her best.

[Bonnevie]

I welcome them. They are the smart ones

really? to me they are the ones who can not read and interpret scientific research at all.

[golfing eagles]

About 20 years ago, the nursing shift moved from 8 hours to 12 hours. This essentially reduced matured nurses from the work force. Part time and contingent positions are very rare. There is a lot of gold not being mined in the nursing field. Sad.

Not true----most hospitals have both 8 and 12 hour nursing shifts. Some nurses have a preference for one or the other, and it has nothing to do with age. We had one nurse on a surgical floor who was 70 years old and always opted for the 12 hour shifts so she could spend more time with her grandchildren. Also, a lot of "mature" nurses have advanced from direct patient care to administrative positions, or continued on to nurse practitioner, or went to ancillary jobs such as pharmaceutical rep or phone advice for insurers.

[nn0wheremann]

I'm getting to experience TVH for the first time in a handful of years. VERY busy with patients varying with reasons to be there.. The main thing I've observed so far. they are short on staffing. With that, my care has been kind and thoughtful. The triage nurse told me the shortages won't be getting better neither. By 2026 they're saying a nurses shortage of 1 million. That's pretty significant.
They staff for the expected patient census, and that situation is determined months in advance. Then they meet spikes in patient census with travelers or temps. Problem this time is that all the hospitals in FL are at or near capacity, so there are not enough travelers or temps. The situation is made worse by Florida’s refusal to grant reciprocal licensure with other states. It costs $500 and a month of bureaucratic bullfeathers for a licensed career nurse from out of state.to obtain a Florida license.

[dshoberg]

Don't worry the 70,000 that NY is firing will make there way to Florida.
Great thought!

[NotGolfer]

I tried to make lemonade out of lemons and we get the usual negative responses. Big shock! It's a shame people live with the glass half empty or want to attack. The op who spent hours in ER got it. What they saw, I saw.
I've seen staff handling difficult situations with grace and calm.

[FromNY]

I would prefer they go elsewhere, to be honest.

Why?

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

I recently spent 12 hours (overnight) in the ER waiting room (no beds available) until 6AM the next morning. Everything was OK, but they just didn't have enough help. The ER nurse said her shift was from 8pm to 9am. There were over a dozen people in the ER waiting room with various problems and she was doing her best. the emergency room at the tradewinds plaza on 466a is fast and professional , I had to get some quick stiches I was in and out in an hour , they have beds for people if they have to get you bed in hospital , it’s a well run operation

[baileysdad]

Been in the TV hospital many times. Always treated very well. Yes it is a busy place, but the care I got was ALWAYS 1st class. The nurses worked hard to ensure the best care possible. Say what you want, My hat is off to them everyday!!! Thank You !!!

[askcarl]

My Son-in-law has worked TVH covid-19 floor for over a year. $26 hour. Current storages of nursing staff being handled by temp Travel Nurses @ $5k a week. Because? Professional Medical staff don't want to live in "The Outback" (TV) for minimum wage. Why would I work here.. Low pay, low benifits, High work load, nothing for young people to do single or married with Kids (let's go line dance with Grandparents I don't know). Why would they live here?


Google up Nurse bonus Orlando, FL

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Carl

[Wyseguy]

really? to me they are the ones who can not read and interpret scientific research at all.

Odd. To me they are the ones with brains who look at all data and make their own decisions I guess some like being told what to believe. We get it. Thinking is difficult for some.

[jimjamuser]

I'm getting to experience TVH for the first time in a handful of years. VERY busy with patients varying with reasons to be there.. The main thing I've observed so far. they are short on staffing. With that, my care has been kind and thoughtful. The triage nurse told me the shortages won't be getting better neither. By 2026 they're saying a nurses shortage of 1 million. That's pretty significant.
Well, you can thank the anti-vaxxers for that. The solution might be for lower or free higher education for Doctors or medical staff. Please do NOT just bring in immigrants to an already overpopulated and trouble-prone America! Reduce the time in school significantly for nurses and other medical staff and allow them to go to free night school or other flexible classes/ They will be getting on-the-job training as they go.

[Packer Fan]

Don't worry the 70,000 that NY is firing will make there way to Florida.

That number is insane. My wife is an RN (still working). She doesn't know ONE healthcare provider that did not get vaccinated, and she knows and works with a LOT. They were allmost all vaccinated in January, and the few that chose to wait got it in April/May after they saw the results from the first groups. Now this is in Wisconsin, but believe me, the number is blown way out of proportion by the antivaxers. Do you really want to be served by Nurses too stupid to protect themselves? I don't. Believe me, you don't want my wife to lecture you either :1rotfl:

[Packer Fan]

My Son-in-law has worked TVH covid-19 floor for over a year. $26 hour. Current storages of nursing staff being handled by temp Travel Nurses @ $5k a week. Because? Professional Medical staff don't want to live in "The Outback" (TV) for minimum wage. Why would I work here.. Low pay, low benifits, High work load, nothing for young people to do single or married with Kids (let's go line dance with Grandparents I don't know). Why would they live here?


Google up Nurse bonus Orlando, FL

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Carl

Please thank him. My best friend Chris almost died there in August, he credits them with saving his life. We came down to TV and Chris tested Positive the second day. Went into the TV hospital on Day 6 and got out 2 weeks later. One step from intubation and blood clots in legs and lungs (59 years old). My vaccinated wife and I took care of him for the first week. We were submerged in the Delta varriant and never got a sniffle - I can tell you both Pfizer(my wife) and Moderna (me) work VERY well.
He is entering week 9 on Saturday and is finally down to 2 1/2 liters a minute of oxygen.

He apologizes over and over to my RN wife and I for not listening and getting vaccinated - his best statement "This is definitely NOT the flu". When he was able, he posted on social media for everyone to get vaccinated. Well DUH!

When he was in there the place was overrun with Covid patients, it took him 4 days stay in the ER before he got an actual room. Our only complaint is they could communicate better, since Covid patients brains are basically totally fogged up and they have no idea what is going on. The doctor with facetimed with on the last day put it best "This hospital is overrun with antivaxxers, if everyone would get vaccinated, I could get a vacation for the first time in 2 years". He looked pretty beat.

As far as wages, Nurses up here make 30-40 an hour. many do the travel thing because they make huge money. There has always been a shortage. One of the issues is that many who finish school only last a few years and then leave - too much stress.
I keep telling my wife we should retire and move to TV now, and she can just do Travel nurse for like 20 weeks every winter in the TV hospital :)

[CoachKandSportsguy]

unfortunately, I have heard from staff here that's it's more difficult than other places to find nurses who want to work here. the reason is that our population is all the same, older, and many die. It's not the most rewarding type of nursing so they go elsewhere.

Nurses have feelings too, and yes, dealing with the elderly day after day does wear on younger people who don't want to turn into us. . . but they will. . . they can get frustrated not understanding that everyone turns into us, unless they are unlucky prior. .

[jimjamuser]

I am horrified by the incredibly LOW salaries paid to nurses
(across all types) are paid.
In this time in history, nursing personnel are EXPECTED to put their lives on the line and work long hours for UNDER 35K.
ARE YOU INSANE?
Geography changes but the DANGERS of Covid and antivaxers DO NOT IMPROVE.
Get with it. You want more staff?
Shoot the lock off your wallets and PAY THE FRONT LINE PROFESSIONALS.
Very true, and the same could be said for teachers not being paid enough. And if that is ALL taken a step further - what part of society is ALL the wealth locked up in? And what was the mechanism by which that was allowed to or intentionally happened? Clue....It relates to Warren Buffet's statement that he WANTED to be taxed MORE.

[jimjamuser]

I would bet you if are rolled in with a ruptured appendix, or a stemi, the last thing you will care about is who is vaccinated.

But if you do have that worry you can always walk out and find a different facility, or do the surgery yourself.
Just make sure you have a sharp knife. Vodka makes a good over the counter anesthetic, but it makes your hand shake a little.

Just remember they can live without you, most likely you will not live without them
I disagree with the content of this post.

[jdulej]

That number is insane. My wife is an RN (still working). She doesn't know ONE healthcare provider that did not get vaccinated, and she knows and works with a LOT. They were allmost all vaccinated in January, and the few that chose to wait got it in April/May after they saw the results from the first groups. Now this is in Wisconsin, but believe me, the number is blown way out of proportion by the antivaxers. Do you really want to be served by Nurses too stupid to protect themselves? I don't. Believe me, you don't want my wife to lecture you either :1rotfl:

I agree with you on this. Both my wife and I are in the middle of some serious health issues here in TV and absolutely everyone we deal with is vaxxed at all the various Dr offices, clinics, the Village's Hosp and Ocala Regional. And they did not get their shots because someone made them do it.

[jimjamuser]

I would prefer the nurses who were heroes last year working during a pandemic be respected and allowed to help the patients in the Villages..Saying they should go elsewhere is saying neighbors should not be treated for heart attacks, strokes etc in a timely caring manner because there are not enough nurses.
If you can't be safe from the pandemic in a hospital, where can you be safe? The anti-vaxxers are causing this continuing Pandemic (that should be over by now). Why reward them with work when they are the PROBLEM, not the SOLUTION ?????

[justjim]

Don't worry the 70,000 that NY is firing will make there way to Florida.

When the “end” comes it won’t be even one third of the 70,000 that will lose their jobs.

[jimjamuser]

My Son-in-law has worked TVH covid-19 floor for over a year. $26 hour. Current storages of nursing staff being handled by temp Travel Nurses @ $5k a week. Because? Professional Medical staff don't want to live in "The Outback" (TV) for minimum wage. Why would I work here.. Low pay, low benifits, High work load, nothing for young people to do single or married with Kids (let's go line dance with Grandparents I don't know). Why would they live here?


Google up Nurse bonus Orlando, FL

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Carl
There are plenty of bars for younger people to go to and churches. They can find cheap rentals and Florida has a low cost of living so they could save money. And they could drive to Daytona on their days off. The problem REALLY is that the anti-vaxxers have prolonged the PANDEMIC. That allows the Virus to mutate and produces stronger CV. The problem is that we have a NATIONWIDE shortage due to being overwhelmed by CV.

[rmd2]

Been to The Villages Hospital ER 3 times in 10 years but would never go back there (8hr wait times are not unusual). Just go to the Ocala ERs (one on 466A, one on 44 Brownwood and one on 441 a couple of miles past Walmart). Almost instant help from these ERs.

[jimjamuser]

Nurses have feelings too, and yes, dealing with the elderly day after day does wear on younger people who don't want to turn into us. . . but they will. . . they can get frustrated not understanding that everyone turns into us, unless they are unlucky prior. .
Speaking about nurses with feelings....with A.I. and robotics making great strides, I wonder how many years before some of the nurse's mundane tasks are taken over by robots. I won't live to see it - but maybe in about 30 or 40 years?

[jimjamuser]

I agree with you on this. Both my wife and I are in the middle of some serious health issues here in TV and absolutely everyone we deal with is vaxxed at all the various Dr offices, clinics, the Village's Hosp and Ocala Regional. And they did not get their shots because someone made them do it.
No way could any economic unit like a business or a hospital get close to 100% of their employees vaccinated on a volunteer basis. that would be a dream world or New Zealand, but NOT America. A mandate needs to be REQUIRED FOR EMPLOYMENT........period!

[jdulej]

No way could any economic unit like a business or a hospital get close to 100% of their employees vaccinated on a volunteer basis. that would be a dream world or New Zealand, but NOT America. A mandate needs to be REQUIRED FOR EMPLOYMENT........period!
I totally agree with you. My only point was that everyone we see was vaxxed a while ago. Any that are not, and refuse it, should be fired.

[chet2020]

Don't worry the 70,000 that NY is firing will make there way to Florida.

We'll see. Thus far, the mass lay-offs aren't happening. Only 568 of 67,000 United Airlines employees will be laid off for not getting vaccinated, less than 1% of their workforce. Only 175 of 35,000+ employees at Novant Health in North Carolina ended up being fired for not getting vaccinated - about 0.5%. Seems the anti-vaxx worker's uprising is ending quietly.

[chet2020]

I welcome them. They are the smart ones

303 COVID-19 patients in ICUs at St. Luke's Health System in Idaho. If your appendix burst, don't go there. All 303 are unvaccinated. Every single one. But sure, the unvaccinated are the smart ones.

[jmpate]

I think the salaries paid to RNs in Florida is absurd, especially given the plethora of certifications required for specialty areas. Been an RN for 45+ years, advanced degree with a board certification and recently obtained licensure in Florida. Would like to work in the healthcare field but given the current circumstances in hospitals and clinics, not willing to give away my expertise and skills. It too bad it's come to this, but my feelings are not uncommon amongst RN colleagues. Patient acuity anywhere in healthcare demands bright, compassionate and exceptionally competent RNs caring for the sick and injured. Best make sure you have a strong patient advocate if admitted to an ED or inpatient setting to ensure your family member is safe. It's what I've always done with my family & it works well.

[OhioBuckeye]

I'm getting to experience TVH for the first time in a handful of years. VERY busy with patients varying with reasons to be there.. The main thing I've observed so far. they are short on staffing. With that, my care has been kind and thoughtful. The triage nurse told me the shortages won't be getting better neither. By 2026 they're saying a nurses shortage of 1 million. That's pretty significant.

Kinda the same thing going on here in Texas, the Dallas/Ft. Worth area, my 2 yr. old Great Granddaughter for the 3rd or 4th time she had a bowl issue where she can’t go to the bathroom for 6 to 7 days & hospital say they can’t admit her because of Covid that’s BS get them out of there, seriously, most of these Covid people got Covid because they won’t wear a mask because it’s their right or haven’t had the 1st Covid shot. Most are adults who can make their own decision & they don’t make wise ones. Now a little 2 yr. old or any little person, can’t sit down & have a medical conversation. My little 2 yr. old got so bad everytime that she was in waiting room she looked like she was in coma, she could barely open her eyes. No pediatric Dr. would examine her, all they said was bring her in next Thur. & that day was Tue. & this was in 9 days, she definitely would of been dead. She’s got to go to hospital again, the Dr. was suppose to see her yesterday but he must of got to busy to see a 2 yr. old that was in serious condition. We’re hoping he will see her today! PS: The last time this happened was last Mon. & while her grandmother (our daughter) was holding her she went all over her, it was like she exploded. Instantly after that she was her normal self. This can’t be healthy to happen once a week & it’s been 4 times. So who’s more important an adult with Covid that could of possibly prevented it or a 2 yr. old that scared to death because they think they’re going to be hurt & can’t talk to the Dr. So if TV hospital are short on staff they ought to take ALL children over adults everytime. Hospitals have got a problem & it’s not the people & 2 yr. olds that’s the problem. I think it’s someone’s problem a 100 times higher than them. I think we all know who that is. All we ask is having a Pediatrician take a look at this little 2 yr. old. Other Drs. don’t or must not have enough training to help her or say. So to get someone to look at this little girl or any little kid what are we to do?

[tophcfa]

I'm getting to experience TVH for the first time in a handful of years. VERY busy with patients varying with reasons to be there.. The main thing I've observed so far. they are short on staffing. With that, my care has been kind and thoughtful. The triage nurse told me the shortages won't be getting better neither. By 2026 they're saying a nurses shortage of 1 million. That's pretty significant.

Consider yourself lucky. At least you got some care. On June 8th I spent 11 and a half hours in the ER and never got any care. The only thing I got even resembling care was getting called into a small examination room, about the size of a closet, for about 5 minutes where they drew some blood, took a urine sample, and put an IV port into my arm. I spent the other 11 hours and 25 minutes in the ER waiting room. Finally, just before midnight, they called me back into the examination room, misdiagnosed me, gave me a prescription I didn’t need, and sent me home to die. Fortunately, my wife got me to a real hospital in Gainesville. As soon as the triage person took one look at me, they immediately got me into an ICU bed and began running tests. It took four days of just about every test imaginable, looking for some really scary things, but they finally figured out what was making me so sick. Once on the proper medications, my two month recovery back to normal began. Dam ticks don’t just cause Lyme disease anymore, they also inject malaria like parasites into your blood that rapidly multiply and destroy your red blood cells. Be careful out there and avoid the Villages Hospital if at all possible.

[graciegirl]

I am sorry you are in the hospital. I hope you will get well very soon and you have all of the nice nurses I had when I was there.

Not liking to hear you are sick.

[NotGolfer]

Too many folks to tell to get back on topic so I'll say it again here. DID not come here talk about vax, anti-vax, masks.... seems to be different than many nay-sayers. We did have to wear the face-cloth while in the public areas but once in our room, we did not. The staff all were following the "rules" in that. The care was truly great! One thing I noticed was all my nurses were male---one even (ER) told me he used to be a paramedic and still had that qualification. They all were exceptional. I was also told that the travel nurses (ER) get paid mucho-bucks. The short-staff issue (according to my one nurse) was that it's impossible to find replacements of CNA's or M.A.'s as they could make more staying home. So some left and that spot is empty. VERY evident in the E.R. Poor nurses were chasing themselves and all the while keep smiles on their face. A lesser person would not. Would I love to go back...probably not again soon, but who does at this stage of LIFE???? I'm just thankful for ALL who put in the time and many don't appreciate it---or it doesn't seem so.