Here's the Roundabout Solution

[CFrance]

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[Chi-Town]

Can't wait. Now all I do is close my eyes and floor it.

[Stu from NYC]

We could do a demolition derby at much lower electrical cost.

[Michael G.]

My solution is a more serious one:
Go to 1 Lane inside instead of two were most mishaps happen.
Makes to much sense I guess

[Michael G.]

My solution is a more serious one:
Go to 1 Lane instead of two were most mishaps happen.
Makes to much sense I guess

[Bjeanj]

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Two Bills]

My solution is a more serious one:
Go to 1 Lane instead of two were most mishaps happen.
Makes to much sense I guess

.......or learn to navigate a roundabout properly, which also makes to much sense I guess!

[Kelevision]

My solution is a more serious one:
Go to 1 Lane instead of two were most mishaps happen.
Makes to much sense I guess

People trying to merge into one lane every 1/2 mile or so? The traffic would be ridiculous. Plus, if they can’t figure out a roundabout then they most likely don’t know the rules of merging. Now enter bikes into the fray. Oh my. :MOJE_whot:

[thevillages2013]

My solution is a more serious one:
Go to 1 Lane instead of two were most mishaps happen.
Makes to much sense I guess
So you are the one taking the third exit from the right lane?

[DaleDivine]

So you are the one taking the third exit from the right lane?

Or the second exit from the left lane...
:ohdear::ohdear:

[golfing eagles]

So you are the one taking the third exit from the right lane?

Well, we know there is at least one person who does it, since about 2 months ago he posted "I always take the right lane to the 3rd exit because I BELIEVE it is safer". I suppose he also believes in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy as well. :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[golfing eagles]

Or the second exit from the left lane...
:ohdear::ohdear:

Huh?????? Second exit from the left lane is 100% acceptable.:ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:

[DaleDivine]

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I think this is where Sheldon Cooper says "Is this sarcasm?"

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[DaleDivine]

Huh?????? Second exit from the left lane is 100% acceptable.:ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:

Coming from Pinellas gate going towards Sarasota or Walmart it went from two lanes to one. The arrow on the inside lane states you must continue around the RB but people on the outside lane are cut off all the time as people on the inside make an illegal exit to Moyers Loop.
NOT 100% acceptable.
:ohdear::ohdear:

[golfing eagles]

Coming from Pinellas gate going towards Sarasota or Walmart it went from two lanes to one. The arrow on the inside lane states you must continue around the RB but people on the outside lane are cut off all the time as people on the inside make an illegal exit to Moyers Loop.
NOT 100% acceptable.
:ohdear::ohdear:

That is NOT the typical RB. I will modify to 99% acceptable.

[DaleDivine]

That is NOT the typical RB. I will modify to 99% acceptable.

I concur...
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[cathell62]

My solution is a more serious one:
Go to 1 Lane inside instead of two were most mishaps happen.
Makes to much sense I guess

Maybe if people learn to read sings posted before EVERY intersection, there wouldn't be a problem.

[noslices1]

Or the second exit from the left lane...
:ohdear::ohdear:

Second exit from the left lane is legal.

Look at the BIG green signs that are up before all the roundabouts. Right lane for going right, 1st exit and straight, 2nd exit. Left lane go straight, 2nd exit or left, 3rd exit. Easy peasy if you have half a brain.

[tonycirocco@me.com]

Or the second exit from the left lane...
:ohdear::ohdear:

Second exit from the left,(inside) lane. Correct. That's what it's there for.

[kappy]

At all roundabouts where the next exit consists of only one lane, all vehicles must merge into the outside lane. This eliminates a vehicle in the the inside lane from cutting off a vehicle in the outside lane.

[Garvey54]

[QUOTE=Chi-Town;2010057]Can't wait. Now all I do is close my eyes and floor it.[/QUOT It's people like you that scare me.

[MrFlorida]

Oh Great ! Now I have to wear glasses when I drive....

[kappy]

When entering a roundabout, right lane goes right or straight. Left lane goes straight, left and u-turn, all while staying in lane. Everyone yields to the vehicles in the roundabout. Never enter until the cars are passed you. Never change lanes, always use your right hand turn signal when exiting and keep your speed at 20mph or below. Very simple!

[Luggage]

If the villages developers really wanted to fix the roundabouts they would have watched the 1950s Italian movie to realize that roundabout should be at least three to four hundred percent larger in diameter. There simply is not enough time for a driver to go from one lane to another and back again to get out of the circle. I come from New Jersey where they were planning around about I have never seen one so small unless it was in a private home

[Luggage]

Personally I will not go to the inside Lane because I have to get off on the 3rd exit. I simply watch the traffic to make sure no one is coming at least 1/4 the diameter behind me or in front of me and stay in the outside Lane which is the safest thing to do. You don't like it don't drive so fast

[Bill14564]

Personally I will not go to the inside Lane because I have to get off on the 3rd exit. I simply watch the traffic to make sure no one is coming at least 1/4 the diameter behind me or in front of me and stay in the outside Lane which is the safest thing to do. You don't like it don't drive so fast

TERRIBLE advice!! This is essentially saying that to make a left hand turn you should stop in the right lane until you see the left lane is empty and then cut across to make the turn. Unnecessary and extremely dangerous.

[Two Bills]

If the villages developers really wanted to fix the roundabouts they would have watched the 1950s Italian movie to realize that roundabout should be at least three to four hundred percent larger in diameter. There simply is not enough time for a driver to go from one lane to another and back again to get out of the circle. I come from New Jersey where they were planning around about I have never seen one so small unless it was in a private home

Personally I will not go to the inside Lane because I have to get off on the 3rd exit. I simply watch the traffic to make sure no one is coming at least 1/4 the diameter behind me or in front of me and stay in the outside Lane which is the safest thing to do. You don't like it don't drive so fast

.....and you Sir/Madam, are the problem, and definitely not the solution!:ohdear:

[Bill14564]

If the villages developers really wanted to fix the roundabouts they would have watched the 1950s Italian movie to realize that roundabout should be at least three to four hundred percent larger in diameter. There simply is not enough time for a driver to go from one lane to another and back again to get out of the circle. I come from New Jersey where they were planning around about I have never seen one so small unless it was in a private home

There should never be a need to switch lanes in a roundabout in the Villages. Know where you want to exit, enter the roundabout in the correct lane (look at the signs if you are unsure), then drive to your exit. Simple, easy, safe, and accomplished by thousands every day.

[butlerism]

Hilarious.

The real only solution is for people to realize before entering a roundabout you should be in the appropriate lane.

Yes these are round things in the middle of the road. However they are laid out improperly.

Growing up on long island, Has anyone been on Ocean parkway with the four lane roundabouts?

That will teach you quickly how to get thru.

Look at the Morse gate Roundabout.
Horror show.
Two lanes, one lane entering . I see an accident every week.
Where the gate house is, move it down Morse blvd far enough to allow people to decide which lane off the roundabout to go to the gate.
Currently, the distance from the roundabout to the gate is only 50 feet?
A daily cluster F*&#

Also if the gate is moved, then bypass or shunt lanes can be added.

[golfing eagles]

Personally I will not go to the inside Lane because I have to get off on the 3rd exit. I simply watch the traffic to make sure no one is coming at least 1/4 the diameter behind me or in front of me and stay in the outside Lane which is the safest thing to do. You don't like it don't drive so fast

Which is EXACTLY the idiotic driving I referred to in post #11. If you can't navigate the RB correctly, just STAY OFF THOSE ROADS. Or at least, since you are a massive safety hazard, stay far away from me. I also sincerely hope the sheriff's deputy witnesses that behavior-----then you can explain your personal preference for intentionally violating the traffic laws to the judge.

[Wyseguy]

We could do a demolition derby at much lower electrical cost.

Remember those races at the old country fairs, they were held on a figure eight track. Usually they were busses. Kind of reminds me of that.

[nn0wheremann]

Try this: <https://www.districtgov.org/community/Roundabout-02-08-12.pdf> . Before they hand out the guest or temporary resident passes, the applicant should have to pass a test on roundabout safety.
Basic rules, whoever is in it has right of way over whoever is out; never pass in a roundabout; do not change lanes within the roundabout; signal your intended turn. And look out!

[GypsyRN]

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Let's look at this with a more positive "arcade" attitude...Disney just gets closer and closer!

[GypsyRN]

Personally I will not go to the inside Lane because I have to get off on the 3rd exit. I simply watch the traffic to make sure no one is coming at least 1/4 the diameter behind me or in front of me and stay in the outside Lane which is the safest thing to do. You don't like it don't drive so fast

And THAT mentality of thinking is EXACTLY why we have soooooo many accidents in the RBs...please rethink your driving tactics!! :shocked:

[rogerk]

What happens when the 2 lanes leading into and out of the roundabouts become the point of congestion? Just wish everyone would take the time to understand the roundabout guidance. These follow US DOT recommendations!

[TNKYGAL]

A wise, previous poster on a previous thread about round-a-bouts put this in simple terms that I thought made it very clear. Just picture each round-a-bout as if you are coming to a stop sign.
If you plan to turn right, you must be in the right lane.
If you plan to go straight, you can be in either lane.
If you plan to turn left or make a u-turn, you must be in the left lane.
It really does follow a very well-known and common-sense traffic pattern.
Add that those coming into the roundabout must merge, and you have a smooth traffic flow. Just like a stop sign (or traffic light), it works well as long as drivers obey the rules.

Unfortunately, those who want to remain in the right lane when making a left turn (3rd exit) are basically cutting across traffic and creating a hazard. Thus, the sage advice - always look out!!!:duck:

[MDLNB]

.......or learn to navigate a roundabout properly, which also makes to much sense I guess!


Sure, you can do it properly but that does not mean that everyone else around you can learn. Plus you have most of the traffic coming from outsiders that take shortcuts through the villages to avoid the traffic and lights on the highways.
Everyone on here that THINKS they know how to "navigate" the roundabouts argues with everyone else as to how it must be done.

Two lanes in circles this small is ridiculous.

[MDLNB]

A wise, previous poster on a previous thread about round-a-bouts put this in simple terms that I thought made it very clear. Just picture each round-a-bout as if you are coming to a stop sign.
If you plan to turn right, you must be in the right lane.
If you plan to go straight, you can be in either lane.
If you plan to turn left or make a u-turn, you must be in the left lane.
It really does follow a very well-known and common-sense traffic pattern.
Add that those coming into the roundabout must merge, and you have a smooth traffic flow. Just like a stop sign (or traffic light), it works well as long as drivers obey the rules.

Unfortunately, those who want to remain in the right lane when making a left turn (3rd exit) are basically cutting across traffic and creating a hazard. Thus, the sage advice - always look out!!!:duck:


There is NO left turn or Straight in any circle in the Villages. That is the problem with folks here. They do not understand and probably never will.

[MDLNB]

They could always install cloverleafs where the circles are now.

[charmed59]

There is NO left turn or Straight in any circle in the Villages. That is the problem with folks here. They do not understand and probably never will.

But there are signs before every circle showing what lane you should be in. Apparently they don’t understand and cannot read signs.

[Bill14564]

There is NO left turn or Straight in any circle in the Villages. That is the problem with folks here. They do not understand and probably never will.

Though technically, everyone in the circle is making a continuous left turn until they turn their wheel to drive straight out of the circle.

Otherwise, if I'm going south on Buena Vista and get to a particular circle I can either turn right onto 44A west, go straight on Buena Vista, turn left onto 44A east, or make a U-turn. Telling someone to turn right onto Buena Vista at their first opportunity which happens to be the second exit or telling someone to turn right onto 44A but at the third exit and not at the first but be sure to be in the left lane since you are going three quarters of the way around is just unnecessarily confusing.

[golfing eagles]

Though technically, everyone in the circle is making a continuous left turn until they turn their wheel to drive straight out of the circle.

Otherwise, if I'm going south on Buena Vista and get to a particular circle I can either turn right onto 44A west, go straight on Buena Vista, turn left onto 44A east, or make a U-turn. Telling someone to turn right onto Buena Vista at their first opportunity which happens to be the second exit or telling someone to turn right onto 44A but at the third exit and not at the first but be sure to be in the left lane since you are going three quarters of the way around is just unnecessarily confusing.

I think a lot of the confusion arises from those who post that EVERY turn out of a RB is a right turn. A simple lesson in geometry and topology would solve that. Just follow the signs or the instructions in the pamphlet they give every new owner.

[jimjamuser]

My solution is a more serious one:
Go to 1 Lane inside instead of two were most mishaps happen.
Makes to much sense I guess
I agree. The only nice thing about the roundabouts is the view of the flowers and if you look too long that causes an accident - so, you can't even enjoy the one virtue of them. My main problem with them is the COST - of CONSTANTLY replacing the flowers. And the workers truck has to park inside the roundabout (I think I am correct about that) and even THAT invites an accident.
......I would put stoplights on the most traveled circles and go with the SINGLE lane on the less traveled roundabouts.
......As a side note....in a few years, we will all be in electric self-driving vehicles. I imagine that they will be able to handle the roundabouts (AKA fender-benderabouts). And I love those electric non-polluting Amazone trucks...amazing!

[rmd2]

Second exit from the left lane is legal.

Look at the BIG green signs that are up before all the roundabouts. Right lane for going right, 1st exit and straight, 2nd exit. Left lane go straight, 2nd exit or left, 3rd exit. Easy peasy if you have half a brain.

Well I guess I have 1/4 of a brain because after the first sentence you lost me. :MOJE_whot:

[jimjamuser]

If the villages developers really wanted to fix the roundabouts they would have watched the 1950s Italian movie to realize that roundabout should be at least three to four hundred percent larger in diameter. There simply is not enough time for a driver to go from one lane to another and back again to get out of the circle. I come from New Jersey where they were planning around about I have never seen one so small unless it was in a private home
I REALLY agree with this post. This IS the best post that I have EVER read on this roundabout subject.

[Bogie Shooter]

Well, after a new fun thread on roundabouts was started, it has now turned into the quarterly long and drawn out thread on the topic.
Not going to offer any suggestions , however , some people are really stupid! :shrug:

[Bjeanj]

CFrance, I enjoyed your post, and thought I’d share this with you in the same spirit.

[Taltarzac725]

See How an Insane 7-Circle Roundabout Actually Works | WIRED - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OGvj7GZSIo)

I cannot see one of these in the Villages as it would take away from the space available for still more houses!

[Byte1]

TERRIBLE advice!! This is essentially saying that to make a left hand turn you should stop in the right lane until you see the left lane is empty and then cut across to make the turn. Unnecessary and extremely dangerous.

There's NO left turn from the circles. If you turn the steering wheel clockwise, you are turning right. If you turn the wheel counter clockwise (left) you will continue to circle. To exit the circle, you ALWAYS turn right.

[golfing eagles]

There's NO left turn from the circles. If you turn the steering wheel clockwise, you are turning right. If you turn the wheel counter clockwise (left) you will continue to circle. To exit the circle, you ALWAYS turn right.

I disagree with this post.

As long as 2 lanes exit the RB, it's not a "turn", it's simply a curve in the lane.

[Two Bills]

Sure, you can do it properly but that does not mean that everyone else around you can learn. Plus you have most of the traffic coming from outsiders that take shortcuts through the villages to avoid the traffic and lights on the highways.
Everyone on here that THINKS they know how to "navigate" the roundabouts argues with everyone else as to how it must be done.

Two lanes in circles this small is ridiculous.

In Europe and here in UK in many cases, just a small painted circle in the middle of a junction with a sign saying, 'Roundabout' is sufficient.
If the roundabouts were three times the size in TV, the problem would still be the same.
It's the total ignorance of the drivers to the correct procedure that is the problem, not the size of the roundabouts.

[Topspinmo]

Second exit from the left lane is legal.

Look at the BIG green signs that are up before all the roundabouts. Right lane for going right, 1st exit and straight, 2nd exit. Left lane go straight, 2nd exit or left, 3rd exit. Easy peasy if you have half a brain.

Also the should never be vehicle crossing into or In front of left lane if (BIG IF) the followed signs and flow pattern entering and exiting roundabout.

[CFrance]

CFrance, I enjoyed your post, and thought I’d share this with you in the same spirit.
I'm late responding, but this is really funny!:clap2:

[Davonu]

......I would put stoplights on the most traveled circles and go with the SINGLE lane on the less traveled roundabouts…So you REALLY want more delays, congestion, and conflicts at all intersections!?!

[Byte1]

I totally agree with ONE lane circles. I do not care if the traffic increases and is slower, since I am retired and not in a hurry anyway. For those that keep shouting that we just need everyone to learn how to use the roundabouts, it ain't gonna happen. Even on here, I see people indicating that they do not know how to use the circles. How do you expect all those folks during rush hour that are going to work and insist on taking the Villages as a short cut to learn?
Best thing that can happen is to make them all one lane and put gates at each entrance to the villages from the highways (42,466, 466a, 44). They have one at Rt466 and Morse. And another point of crazy is their allowing golf carts to travel on Morse. How crazy is that? Why didn't they put a golf cart trail off to the side like they do on the other main roads?
And you cannot take a LEFT turn off of a roundabout. If you all insist on saying you can, then you are probably the same ones that complain about folks not understanding how to maneuver through a roundabout.
I see no problem with newcomers or visitors using the right lane only in the circles, as long as they watch for turning vehicles from the inside lane. It is probably the safest way to make your way through the crazy two lane circles.

[Bogie Shooter]

Why was this dead horse brought back to life? So previous posts could be repeated once again?

[davem4616]

perfect

[yabbadu]

Stupid is as Stupid Does.........