Something about Flying not being comfortable anymore?

[GrumpyOldMan]

I had to laugh when I saw an article about a new class of flying, because recently a number of posts were complaining about how cramped the seating is now.

Well, turns out something is being done about that in various airlines around the world. I haven't seen any indication it is coming to the US anytime soon...

It's called "Suite Class" for private suites in commercial flights.

What It'''s Like to Fly the $23,000 Singapore Airlines Suites Class (https://dereklow.co/singapore-airlines-suites-class/)

[retiredguy123]

How much for a king size bed?

[JMintzer]

I had to laugh when I saw an article about a new class of flying, because recently a number of posts were complaining about how cramped the seating is now.

Well, turns out something is being done about that in various airlines around the world. I haven't seen any indication it is coming to the US anytime soon...

It's called "Suite Class" for private suites in commercial flights.

What It'''s Like to Fly the $23,000 Singapore Airlines Suites Class (https://dereklow.co/singapore-airlines-suites-class/)

That's S$23,000 (Singapore dollars)... "Only" US$18,400 American... Sign me up! :icon_wink:

[GrumpyOldMan]

That's S$23,000 (Singapore dollars)... "Only" US$18,400 American... Sign me up! :icon_wink:

oops, you are right, I got it backwards. Thank you. Wow, in that case Maybe I will get two!

[JMintzer]

No, it was already converted, I am pretty sure. Like $28000 or something in Singapore dollars. But, who's quibbling if you can afford that.

Nope, from the article: "With round-trip tickets costing up to S$23,000 (or US$18,400)"...

[GrumpyOldMan]

Nope, from the article: "With round-trip tickets costing up to S$23,000 (or US$18,400)"...

Sorry, you beat me to it, I double-checked and edited my post - LOL! Thank you

[Garywt]

But it is round trip, if it was one way I’d have an issue, lol.

I can’t fly yet. Had to cancel Aruba for the 2nd year as it is a 5 hour flight. Also will continue to drive to The Villages from Massachusetts.

[elevatorman]

Fly First Class, or your kids will :icon_wink:!

[ttc1991@aol.com]

Fly First Class, or your kids will :icon_wink:! Now that is funny! And so true!

[La lamy]

Fly First Class, or your kids will :icon_wink:!

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[MandoMan]

I had to laugh when I saw an article about a new class of flying, because recently a number of posts were complaining about how cramped the seating is now.

Well, turns out something is being done about that in various airlines around the world. I haven't seen any indication it is coming to the US anytime soon...

It's called "Suite Class" for private suites in commercial flights.

What It'''s Like to Fly the $23,000 Singapore Airlines Suites Class (https://dereklow.co/singapore-airlines-suites-class/)

US$18,400 round trip, Singapore to New York and back.
I’ve just checked on Travelocity. Round trip in Steerage is at the lowest $1,000 to $1,300. Round trip in First Class is around $7,500. In First Class your seat is converted into a bed where you can lie flat. It’s almost that good in Business Class.

But this is one of the longest flights you can get: 27 to 30 hours, though that includes a layover of 1.5 hours to 5 hours in, say, Amsterdam, Paris, or Doha. In the airport, that is, not seeing the sights. And then there is also the time change to deal with.

I flew from New York to Singapore once, in Steerage. It was horrible. The seats were much better than your average seat on US flights (but it was twenty years ago). There was a choice of, I think, eight movies. But that’s a very long time to sit, even in a plane that wasn’t full. I think there were nine seats in each row. I couldn’t sleep.

Singapore was a great airport, though. I rented an in-airport short stay hotel room for four hours, got some sleep and a hot shower, and was feeling much better for my next flight, to Indonesia (Sulawesi), then to what used to be called Borneo. But oh, that terrible flight.

So if money were no object, a room on a plane would be nice.

[Heytubes]

I’ll go standby US military and sleep in a hummer. Free most of the time to anywhere the military goes!!

[bp243]

Singapore airlines has always been at the top for doing it right!

[Doug R]

Well, turns out something is being done about that in various airlines around the world. I haven't seen any indication it is coming to the US anytime soon...

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I have some background on this subject.

There is a large difference in seating on international versus domestic flights. In general International long haul flights typically have 4 seating configurations/options. Economy, Premium Economy, Business and First. Domestic configurations are usually configured with economy or first class. This applies to all the major airlines (U.S. airlines included).

The seating classes between International and domestic configurations are not comparable however…. For example - The international Premium economy Class is typically equivalent (or better) than domestic first class. In some cases, they are the same seat.

International Business Class and First class have seen movement to suites on some airlines to lure the wealthiest flyers and add to their luxury brand. Notable too competitors in this area are Emirates, Etihad, Singapore, Cathay and a few others.

A last item to note: seats have a large range of options and comfort levels within a class depending on airline and specific airplane. For example an international “business class seat” could be a row seat (sitting next to a neighbor) without full recline or could be a full suite (google Etihad Q-suite). Suggest you use “seat guru.com” or another research site if you are buying an international ticket.

[Malsua]

I have some background on this subject.

There is a large difference in seating on international versus domestic flights. In general International long haul flights typically have 4 seating configurations/options. Economy, Premium Economy, Business and First. Domestic configurations are usually configured with economy or first class. This applies to all the major airlines (U.S. airlines included).

The seating classes between International and domestic configurations are not comparable however…. For example - The international Premium economy Class is typically equivalent (or better) than domestic first class. In some cases, they are the same seat.

International Business Class and First class have seen movement to suites on some airlines to lure the wealthiest flyers and add to their luxury brand. Notable too competitors in this area are Emirates, Etihad, Singapore, Cathay and a few others.

A last item to note: seats have a large range of options and comfort levels within a class depending on airline and specific airplane. For example an international “business class seat” could be a row seat (sitting next to a neighbor) without full recline or could be a full suite (google Etihad Q-suite). Suggest you use “seat guru.com” or another research site if you are buying an international ticket.

I've flown international business plenty of times and sometimes one of us on a trip may get popped up to first. It's definitely better.

That said, one of my most favorite things is when I fly domestic first class and we end up in an international configured plane. Usually they are just repositioning it to a different hub or something. It doesn't happen much, but wow, is that great! Specially if I got lucky and the flight was super cheap.

I've never had a "suite" on a wide body though. My favorite place is upper deck on a 747. On Asiana, which is where I flew many times business international, those seats were great and it's quiet up there.

Worst seats ever in Business was when Continental was experimenting with these $10,000 business seats that laid flat...at about a 20 degree angle. 10 hours into the flight, you had an atomic wedgie as you slid towards the floor. I gave up on those and just reclined a little. Worst seats ever.

[Doug R]

I've never had a "suite" on a wide body though. My favorite place is upper deck on a 747. On Asiana, which is where I flew many times business international, those seats were great and it's quiet up there.
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I agree - the upper deck of the 747 was also my favorite “environment”. And although I hate to admit it - the Airbus A380 bar area was pretty incredible. The new suites are a fantastic way to travel (but expensive). I was lucky enough to experience most of them when I was working.

[jimjamuser]

I had to laugh when I saw an article about a new class of flying, because recently a number of posts were complaining about how cramped the seating is now.

Well, turns out something is being done about that in various airlines around the world. I haven't seen any indication it is coming to the US anytime soon...

It's called "Suite Class" for private suites in commercial flights.

What It'''s Like to Fly the $23,000 Singapore Airlines Suites Class (https://dereklow.co/singapore-airlines-suites-class/)
Amen Bro, I have made a basket of bad decisions in my life. If bad decisions were money I would rival Warren Buffet! And maybe the problem is the lethargy of Americans that has lead to our being overweight and bulging large and all in the wrong places. I saw something in that other TV Land news web page about a 650 lb man arrested by police. He probably did not fit into their squad car. They might have had to ROLL him back to the station - he might take up 2 cells.

[Hape2Bhr]

But it is round trip, if it was one way I’d have an issue, lol.

I can’t fly yet. Had to cancel Aruba for the 2nd year as it is a 5 hour flight. Also will continue to drive to The Villages from Massachusetts.

We went to Aruba in August for our 25th anniversary out of Logan. Was not a bad flight. Took the kids and grandchild. Had a great time. :popcorn:

[Malsua]

I agree - the upper deck of the 747 was also my favorite “environment”. And although I hate to admit it - the Airbus A380 bar area was pretty incredible. The new suites are a fantastic way to travel (but expensive). I was lucky enough to experience most of them when I was working.

I was on a 380 two times. I can't recall where I was flying to, maybe Germany because under 8 hours, my company would only allow seat upgrades to premium economy, not full on Business. Anyway, I didn't have the nerve to check out that part of the plane. Maybe next time. Sounds really cool.

[mermaids]

Good point! My kids tell me to spent everything & have a good time. Trouble is, I don't remember what a good time is and is it still legal?

[GrumpyOldMan]

Good point! My kids tell me to spent everything & have a good time. Trouble is, I don't remember what a good time is and is it still legal?

Sigh, it's illegal, it's immoral, or it makes you fat...

the Beverley Sisters LIVE - "It's Illegal, It's Immoral Or It Makes You Fat" - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuDo2DrLPYA)

[Luggage]

If you can afford $23,000, and it's actually quite better to fly and charter a private jet plane probably for half that price and only have you and your family on it . I know a billionaire but actually he would prefer a large 747/777 has those cabins are extremely large as a charter.
In my life I have flown 14-18 hour flights to Asia and it was a big improvement when they finally designed Lye flat seats to begin with and a domestic airlines upgraded to real cabins where you had more than 12 in to stretch. I always bought the seats on the cheap and I paid 1/3 of what the guy next to me would pay because he got it for free from his clients. How is the spendthrift but enjoyed the actuality of the luxury of the flight compared to some snook in the back with a 22 inch wide seat

[Freehiker]

I just got back from Alaska and didn’t notice anything different this flight versus previous flights. It’s been cramped for years for the non-First Class flyers.

[Jsan143]

That's S$23,000 (Singapore dollars)... "Only" US$18,400 American... Sign me up! :icon_wink:

I’m an Airbus captain for a major AAmerican Airline and when you can buy a group 9 ticket for $50 round-trip I don’t see how you can expect anything other than a cattle car! And please don’t forget to social distance right until you go through security screening and get on an aircraft with 195 passengers, you might wind up ducted taped on you way to a federal detention center. Unless of course you’re an undocumented immigrant, What a joke!

[GOLFER54]

Speaking of Airlines, if you have time to kill, call JETBLUE. Last month I called to book a flight and use the credit they gave me due to Covid-19 cancellations, after three and a half hours;with my phone on speaker rather than tote it around, someone finally says , hi can I help you, then hangs up. Yesterday we decided to call again, this time only thirty minutes, which after booking and getting back our credit; minus the early booking fee I originally paid for, which they refused to credit back, we were done. I will NEVER do business with that company again. Always used SOUTHWEST, but tried JETBLUE, and as you can see that was a big mistake.

[GrumpyOldMan]

I’m an Airbus captain for a major AAmerican Airline and when you can buy a group 9 ticket for $50 round-trip I don’t see how you can expect anything other than a cattle car! And please don’t forget to social distance right until you go through security screening and get on an aircraft with 195 passengers, you might wind up ducted taped on you way to a federal detention center. Unless of course you’re an undocumented immigrant, What a joke!

Excellent example of venting and conflating unrelated issues. Congratulations. Remind me not to fly with you.

[Mikee1]

The solution is simple...
Buy a jet.
All the room you want and it goes and comes on your schedule

[GrumpyOldMan]

If you can afford $23,000, and it's actually quite better to fly and charter a private jet plane probably for half that price and only have you and your family on it . I know a billionaire but actually he would prefer a large 747/777 has those cabins are extremely large as a charter.
In my life I have flown 14-18 hour flights to Asia and it was a big improvement when they finally designed Lye flat seats to begin with and a domestic airlines upgraded to real cabins where you had more than 12 in to stretch. I always bought the seats on the cheap and I paid 1/3 of what the guy next to me would pay because he got it for free from his clients. How is the spendthrift but enjoyed the actuality of the luxury of the flight compared to some snook in the back with a 22 inch wide seat

Interesting, I know nothing about chartering private jets, but a quick google seems to imply $1,000 to $10,000 per flight hour, and the Singapore to NY flight is 27 to 30 hours one way.

I guess if you are rich enough to afford this (assuming your company isn't paying) then another zero or two on the end doesn't matter. After all, $100 Million boats are now a thing.

[jojo]

I think Delta One is one of the best for Suites. Takes some study to figure out the controls though.

[Bay Kid]

I see lots of global warming going on in this post.