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Michael G.
10-08-2021, 09:11 AM
Some of these doesn't pertain to us like #3 and #6

#11 is stupid.
It should be your personal choice way before making the move.




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Bill14564
10-08-2021, 10:18 AM
I see 1, 2, and 3 as positives.

5 is a negative (sweating) but I'm not sure where to retire that doesn't have either sweating or shoveling and I'll take the sweating.

The math in 4 and 7 seems to be a bit off. Particularly in 7 where $177 per week for maintenance plus $100 to $600 per month for heating all adds up to $3,000 per year (my calculator shows something a bit higher). Besides, I use the neighborhood pools so.....

charlieo1126@gmail.com
10-08-2021, 10:52 AM
I read the article as more lighthearted then mean spirited as a long time resident theres a lot of truth in it but it’s still paradise to me

MrFlorida
10-08-2021, 10:56 AM
Maybe it's a good thing, let them retire in Seattle.

Decadeofdave
10-08-2021, 11:35 AM
Summer is my only negative (hot)

Laker14
10-08-2021, 05:01 PM
Clickbait.
Nothing new here.
It's hot, it has bugs, hurricanes, old people, and the sun might mess up you skin.
Earthshaking, right?

I'm a seasonal, looking forward very much to exposing myself to all these harsh realities in just 7 days!

justjim
10-08-2021, 06:51 PM
The biggest reason for some not retiring to Florida is not mentioned. In one word - medical….Growth exceeding the number of doctors, facilities and nurses makes medical a major issue in Florida. Medical is not as big a problem if you have the money to travel where the medical is located. However, in some instances, if the medical condition is when time is important travel could be deadly. In big growth communities like The Villages, the influx of so called snowbirds overwhelms the ER and other medical facilities in the area. Wait times are frustrating and can cause pain and suffering during this seasonal time of the year. All that said, for many Florida and especially The Villages is still ahead of whatever is in second place as a retirement community.

manaboutown
10-08-2021, 07:33 PM
An aunt and uncle retired to Florida in the early 1970s and kept their physicians in Maryland as they found Florida medical care lacking. That has not changed, especially as God's Waiting Room continues to grow in population at an astonishing rate.

patfla06
10-08-2021, 08:56 PM
What’s wrong with Boomers??
Dumb reason not to move to Florida.
We are still cool. :coolsmiley:

Gmb727
10-09-2021, 04:52 AM
I think Bob deservers a Pulitzer for this piece. Its' hot in FL, there's bugs here too, there's old people and a lot of sun. Wow, cutting edge stuff here. I normally like Kiplinger's, every once in a while they go off the rails though.

golfing eagles
10-09-2021, 05:03 AM
Some of these doesn't pertain to us like #3 and #6

#11 is stupid.
It should be your personal choice way before making the move.




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Thank you Kiplinger's, or should I say "Captain Obvious":1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

tsmall22204
10-09-2021, 06:02 AM
I think your post is ridiculous. Did you just need a post or are you wasting everyone's time.

DaleDivine
10-09-2021, 06:04 AM
Maybe it's a good thing, let them retire in Seattle.

Or southern California, Texas...
:clap2::clap2:

DaleDivine
10-09-2021, 06:05 AM
I think your post is ridiculous. Did you just need a post or are you wasting everyone's time.

Hopefully you didn't look at the site and read it...
:ohdear::ohdear:

George Page
10-09-2021, 06:32 AM
12) No snow.

terenceanne
10-09-2021, 07:01 AM
Still better than the 25 reasons not to retire in New York or Seattle or LA --- so we are still ahead of the game :)

Petersweeney
10-09-2021, 07:13 AM
What about the cockroaches ? How soon we forget…..

MidWestIA
10-09-2021, 07:22 AM
I lived in North Dallas and it is a great place FL vs TX I really miss their weather not much humidity, in the winter the sun is not intense just warm, and wind - they have wind most of the time.

The airport shuttle driver said the most comments he hears from people that came and were thinking of leaving is everything is the same yes we have alot of it (golf) but it is the same thing repeated and cliquey groups. Oh and I really miss the stores with different things especially grocery.


Some of these doesn't pertain to us like #3 and #6

#11 is stupid.
It should be your personal choice way before making the move.




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midiwiz
10-09-2021, 07:26 AM
What’s wrong with Boomers??
Dumb reason not to move to Florida.
We are still cool. :coolsmiley:

if you are a gen "" to a millennial liberal - everything. according to especially the millennials Boomers are the main cause for their lack of everything.

dewilson58
10-09-2021, 07:48 AM
Clickbait.
Nothing new here.
It's hot, it has bugs, hurricanes, old people, and the sun might mess up you skin.
Earthshaking, right?

I'm a seasonal, looking forward very much to exposing myself to all these harsh realities in just 7 days!

:bigbow:

Ele201
10-09-2021, 07:54 AM
#3 Weirdos. Well yeah. I read a lot of true crime, and some criminals on a crime spree have a way of finding their way to Fla. And there are the so-called weirdos that already live here. For ex: In June, a man close to where we were staying in Hernando Beach crashed his car into a pedestrian in the wee hours. Instead of calling 911. he took the body and dragged it behind a shed, went home and went to bed! Awful. He was arrested a day later. AND #6!The heat. I can relate. It was so hot this past summer that I couldn’t even walk to the pool to cool off. That’s hot! Some of these doesn't pertain to us like #3 and #6

#11 is stupid.
It should be your personal choice way before making the move.




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DAVES
10-09-2021, 07:57 AM
12) No snow.

People have asked for needed businesses in the villages. You can make fake snow.
I suggest an snow ball fight and snowman building place. You would need to sign so you can' t sue and of course no one under ?????? allowed.

coralway
10-09-2021, 08:04 AM
Still better than the 25 reasons not to retire in New York or Seattle or LA --- so we are still ahead of the game :)





You couldn’t retire in any of those cities even if you wanted to . You couldn’t afford it.

ThirdOfFive
10-09-2021, 08:35 AM
Some of these doesn't pertain to us like #3 and #6

#11 is stupid.
It should be your personal choice way before making the move.




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I always take these articles with more than a grain of salt, mainly because the interpretation is so subjective. Really, the only way any of it makes any sense is to compare these "points" to where you came from. I come from Minnesota so that is my "ruler". For instance:

FLORIDA IS CRAWLING WITH BOOMERS

Yeah. But it is also crawling with the money and purchasing power these boomers bring with them. Far better moneyed geezers than indigent ones. A huge number of retired Minnesotans live off the dole. In Florida, it appears that they put far more money INTO the economy than they take out.

FLORIDA IS CRAWLING WITH CRITTERS, TOO

True. But then again it is true for wherever you call home in America--just the critter faces change. In any case you aren't going to be encountering the bulk of the Florida critters unless hiking in the Everglades is your idea of a relaxing afternoon.

FLORIDA HAS AN EXCESS OF WEIRDNESS

Maybe true. I prefer to see that as "colorful". In any case "weird" in all too many parts of the country consists of riots and tens--sometimes hundreds of millions--of dollars in damages. I prefer the colorfulness of Florida.

NO STATE INCOME TAX? FLORIDA MAKES UP FOR IT

Trust me. When you hail from the third-highest taxed state in the nation, the Florida taxes are a breath of fresh air. Minnesota is one of only three states--maybe the the only one by now--that fully taxes ALL forms of retirement income. Plus my property taxes in Minnesota were twice what I am paying now, on property here that is valued at approx. 140% of my Minnesota home.

YOU'LL SWEAT. A LOT.

So what? Three months of sweat is a small price to pay for freedom from chest-high snowdrifts, -30 to -40 degree temps and not seeing the sun for sometimes weeks at a time. In any case, I actually LIKE Florida summers. Take a walk every afternoon. My joints have never felt better.

YOU WON'T BE OUTSIDE AS MUCH AS YOU THINK.

Untrue in my case. There's a disease back where I'm from called Cabin Fever. Cabin Fever is caused by being snowed in for half a week at a time, with virtually the only time you venture outside is to clear away the drifts to make room for more snow. No Cabin Fever in Florida. My wife and I LIVE outside down here.

SWIMMING POOLS ARE EXPENSIVE.

The ones at the rec. centers are free. In any case I far prefer swimming pools to ice rinks.

THE SUN CAN TAKE A TOLL ON YOUR SKIN

Maybe, but in my mid-70's now I'll take a chance. Better a suntan than frostbite.

HURRICANES ARE A REAL MENACE

I suppose. But driving around The Villages, especially in the "historic" (how's THAT for a pretty euphemism?) section I see manufactured homes and mobile homes that have been here for decades and are still standing. The coasts are different--I understand that. But I haven't had to adopt the fetal position in a closet since we're moved here.

HURRICANE INSURANCE PREMIUMS ARE A MENACE, TOO.

Again, I suppose. But we don't pay 'em--at least judging by our Home insurance premiums back home. Ours here are about 1/3 less than what we paid there--and according to our agent here, we have cadillac "hurricane" coverage.

YOU'LL MISS YOUR FAMILY

Odd thing: we've seen more of some of our family in one year here, than we've seen them in the five years preceding that. Lots of daily flights between Minneapolis and Orlando--and, I daresay, between Orlando and just about every other major U.S. city. Nobody sane decides to take a vacation in Minnesota in January.

Okay. In all seriousness I realize that "The Bubble" does not represent all of Florida. But I don't live in all of Florida. I live here. And I haven't regretted it for a minute.

toeser
10-09-2021, 09:17 AM
Some of these doesn't pertain to us like #3 and #6

#11 is stupid.
It should be your personal choice way before making the move.




11 Reasons You Don'''t Want to Retire in Florida | Kiplinger (https://www.kiplinger.com/slideshow/retirement/t047-s001-reasons-you-don-t-want-to-retire-in-florida/index.html?rid=EML-today&rmrecid=2566597852&utm_campaign=20211008-today&utm_medium=email&utm_source=today)


And yet, moving here has been the best thing we have done. Instead of sitting indoors for six months of the year freezing our a---- off, we are outdoors doing things, staying active, staying healthy. The taxes we no longer pay in our sky-high taxed northern state now pay our ENTIRE cost of living in Florida. Win-win.

toeser
10-09-2021, 09:18 AM
Some of these doesn't pertain to us like #3 and #6

#11 is stupid.
It should be your personal choice way before making the move.




11 Reasons You Don'''t Want to Retire in Florida | Kiplinger (https://www.kiplinger.com/slideshow/retirement/t047-s001-reasons-you-don-t-want-to-retire-in-florida/index.html?rid=EML-today&rmrecid=2566597852&utm_campaign=20211008-today&utm_medium=email&utm_source=today)


And yet, moving here has been the best thing we have done. Instead of sitting indoors for six months of the year freezing our a---- off, we are outdoors doing things, staying active, staying healthy. The taxes we no longer pay in our sky-high taxed northern state now pay our ENTIRE cost of living in Florida. Win-win.

Trayderjoe
10-09-2021, 09:24 AM
I always take these articles with more than a grain of salt, mainly because the interpretation is so subjective. Really, the only way any of it makes any sense is to compare these "points" to where you came from. I come from Minnesota so that is my "ruler". For instance:

FLORIDA IS CRAWLING WITH BOOMERS

Yeah. But it is also crawling with the money and purchasing power these boomers bring with them. Far better moneyed geezers than indigent ones. A huge number of retired Minnesotans live off the dole. In Florida, it appears that they put far more money INTO the economy than they take out.

FLORIDA IS CRAWLING WITH CRITTERS, TOO

True. But then again it is true for wherever you call home in America--just the critter faces change. In any case you aren't going to be encountering the bulk of the Florida critters unless hiking in the Everglades is your idea of a relaxing afternoon.

FLORIDA HAS AN EXCESS OF WEIRDNESS

Maybe true. I prefer to see that as "colorful". In any case "weird" in all too many parts of the country consists of riots and tens--sometimes hundreds of millions--of dollars in damages. I prefer the colorfulness of Florida.

NO STATE INCOME TAX? FLORIDA MAKES UP FOR IT

Trust me. When you hail from the third-highest taxed state in the nation, the Florida taxes are a breath of fresh air. Minnesota is one of only three states--maybe the the only one by now--that fully taxes ALL forms of retirement income. Plus my property taxes in Minnesota were twice what I am paying now, on property here that is valued at approx. 140% of my Minnesota home.

YOU'LL SWEAT. A LOT.

So what? Three months of sweat is a small price to pay for freedom from chest-high snowdrifts, -30 to -40 degree temps and not seeing the sun for sometimes weeks at a time. In any case, I actually LIKE Florida summers. Take a walk every afternoon. My joints have never felt better.

YOU WON'T BE OUTSIDE AS MUCH AS YOU THINK.

Untrue in my case. There's a disease back where I'm from called Cabin Fever. Cabin Fever is caused by being snowed in for half a week at a time, with virtually the only time you venture outside is to clear away the drifts to make room for more snow. No Cabin Fever in Florida. My wife and I LIVE outside down here.

SWIMMING POOLS ARE EXPENSIVE.

The ones at the rec. centers are free. In any case I far prefer swimming pools to ice rinks.

THE SUN CAN TAKE A TOLL ON YOUR SKIN

Maybe, but in my mid-70's now I'll take a chance. Better a suntan than frostbite.

HURRICANES ARE A REAL MENACE

I suppose. But driving around The Villages, especially in the "historic" (how's THAT for a pretty euphemism?) section I see manufactured homes and mobile homes that have been here for decades and are still standing. The coasts are different--I understand that. But I haven't had to adopt the fetal position in a closet since we're moved here.

HURRICANE INSURANCE PREMIUMS ARE A MENACE, TOO.

Again, I suppose. But we don't pay 'em--at least judging by our Home insurance premiums back home. Ours here are about 1/3 less than what we paid there--and according to our agent here, we have cadillac "hurricane" coverage.

YOU'LL MISS YOUR FAMILY

Odd thing: we've seen more of some of our family in one year here, than we've seen them in the five years preceding that. Lots of daily flights between Minneapolis and Orlando--and, I daresay, between Orlando and just about every other major U.S. city. Nobody sane decides to take a vacation in Minnesota in January.

Okay. In all seriousness I realize that "The Bubble" does not represent all of Florida. But I don't live in all of Florida. I live here. And I haven't regretted it for a minute.

Absolutely 100% agreement. :bigbow:

Villages Kahuna
10-09-2021, 10:31 AM
They missed the fact that there is a shortage of beauty shop capacity. The little old ladies are having a tough time having their blue hair properly maintained.

joelfmi
10-09-2021, 12:28 PM
The biggest reason for some not retiring to Florida is not mentioned. In one word - medical….Growth exceeding the number of doctors, facilities and nurses makes medical a major issue in Florida. Medical is not as big a problem if you have the money to travel where the medical is located. However, in some instances, if the medical condition is when time is important travel could be deadly. In big growth communities like The Villages, the influx of so called snowbirds overwhelms the ER and other medical facilities in the area. Wait times are frustrating and can cause pain and suffering during this seasonal time of the year. All that said, for many Florida and especially The Villages is still ahead of whatever is in second place as a retirement community..

1. Medical facilities are not good
2 It is bubble.
3 to close to turnpike noise, and pollution.
4 Not gated
5 rentals
6 too close to noise from the turn pike
5 sink holes
6 way to many people in winter.
7 long waiting lists for amenities
8 a lot of clicks
9 Home prices are too high

Smalley
10-09-2021, 01:13 PM
What’s wrong with Boomers??
Dumb reason not to move to Florida.
We are still cool. :coolsmiley:
The anti-boomers comment is unconcealed agism. Society is fine with ridiculing old people.

Joe V.
10-09-2021, 02:08 PM
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1. Medical facilities are not good
2 It is bubble.
3 to close to turnpike noise, and pollution.
4 Not gated
5 rentals
6 too close to noise from the turn pike
5 sink holes
6 way to many people in winter.
7 long waiting lists for amenities
8 a lot of clicks
9 Home prices are too high

You don't live in TV, do you?