Troublesome neighbor

[MaryShields]

Our neighbors need advice. We live in Monarch Grove and have a wonderful group of people living on our block of Gonzalez Lane. One of our neighbors is an issue. They watch people walking their dogs and remotely turn on their sprinkler system whenever people walk by. We have an elderly lady with dementia who regularly gets doused as she walks her small dog. Everyone is very respectful and picks up any dog poop. Our scared neighbors automatically move to the other side of the street. We feel stalked and sad.

[Taltarzac725]

Our neighbors need advice. We live in Monarch Grove and have a wonderful group of people living on our block of Gonzalez Lane. One of our neighbors is an issue. They watch people walking their dogs and remotely turn on their sprinkler system whenever people walk by. We have an elderly lady with dementia who regulates gets doused as she walks her small dog. Everyone is very respectful and picks up any dog poop. They automatically move to the other side of the street. We feel stalked and sad.

If the elderly lady with dementia has kids or other relatives who visit and you neighbors have a way to contact I would do that if I were in your shoes. They can make the decision about contacting the police. This does sound like they could be placing the woman with dementia in harm's way if these bad neighbors deliberately douse this poor woman with irrigation water.

[Velvet]

Our neighbors need advice. We live in Monarch Grove and have a wonderful group of people living on our block of Gonzalez Lane. One of our neighbors is an issue. They watch people walking their dogs and remotely turn on their sprinkler system whenever people walk by. We have an elderly lady with dementia who regulates gets doused as she walks her small dog. Everyone is very respectful and picks up any dog poop. They automatically move to the other side of the street. We feel stalked and sad.

Are the water sprinklers watering something other than their own lawn/property? Does the lady walking her dog step on their lawn?

They may have motion sprinkler which automatically comes on when detecting motion. I have it too, so animals will stay off the lawn, I think it’s a great idea. I’ve watered myself a couple of times when I forgot… it’s no biggy.

Now if the sprinklers water the street than that should be reported.

[Nucky]

If the elderly lady with dementia has kids or other relatives who visit and you neighbors have a way to contact I would do that if I were in your shoes. They can make the decision about contacting the police. This does sound like they could be placing the woman with dementia in harm's way if these bad neighbors deliberately douse this poor woman with irrigation water.

It's sad for sure Tal. The lady with dementia shouldn't be walking a dog without a guardian with her.

I don't blame the property owner for their actions. I hope they never miss any person who disrespects their property. Carry On! :boxing2:

[Taltarzac725]

It's sad for sure Tal. The lady with dementia shouldn't be walking a dog without a guardian with her.

I don't blame the property owner for their actions. I hope they never miss any person who disrespects their property. Carry On! :boxing2:

Depends on what they are doing. If they wait for the woman to walk the dog along their street in front of their house and then turn on the water from their system's controls probably in their garage and know that this woman has dementia then that is a different matter.

If it is automated to come on when there is any motion that might be a different matter. Then they are not targeting someone they should know has dementia.

[Kelevision]

Our neighbors need advice. We live in Monarch Grove and have a wonderful group of people living on our block of Gonzalez Lane. One of our neighbors is an issue. They watch people walking their dogs and remotely turn on their sprinkler system whenever people walk by. We have an elderly lady with dementia who regularly gets doused as she walks her small dog. Everyone is very respectful and picks up any dog poop. Our scared neighbors automatically move to the other side of the street. We feel stalked and sad.

It’s sad and unfortunate but there’s always a bad apple in the bag. I have 3 in my lovely neighborhood. Perhaps it’s because I’m picturing my neighborhood, which has no sidewalks so I would just walk on the other side of the street? I don’t understand how the water is hitting her unless it’s not hitting the actual yard?? Good luck. It does sound like it’s on some sort of auto sensor. Or maybe you really do have the worst neighbors.

[RICH1]

great idea...shes tired of stepping in dog crap in her yard! smart cookie that one...

[Kelevision]

Our neighbors need advice. We live in Monarch Grove and have a wonderful group of people living on our block of Gonzalez Lane. One of our neighbors is an issue. They watch people walking their dogs and remotely turn on their sprinkler system whenever people walk by. We have an elderly lady with dementia who regularly gets doused as she walks her small dog. Everyone is very respectful and picks up any dog poop. Our scared neighbors automatically move to the other side of the street. We feel stalked and sad.

Hi, I see you’re a junior member. I should let you know, some of the regulars on this site are sort of rude and will always side with the person the OP is complaining about. I watch it all the time and it’s always like the same 5 people. Just so you know. Have a great day and I would advise walking on the opposite side of the street.

[mrrmauu]

Our neighbors need advice. We live in Monarch Grove and have a wonderful group of people living on our block of Gonzalez Lane. One of our neighbors is an issue. They watch people walking their dogs and remotely turn on their sprinkler system whenever people walk by. We have an elderly lady with dementia who regularly gets doused as she walks her small dog. Everyone is very respectful and picks up any dog poop. Our scared neighbors automatically move to the other side of the street. We feel stalked and sad.

I have a few questions.

How do you know they are activating the sprinklers? It could be a sensor system.

Are the people getting wet on the street? If they are on the lawn, then that’s their problem. I suspect they are on the lawn based on your “everyone is respectful and picks up the poop” comment.

Why do you feel stalked? That seems like an extreme reaction based on what you wrote above.

[thevillages2013]

Our neighbors need advice. We live in Monarch Grove and have a wonderful group of people living on our block of Gonzalez Lane. One of our neighbors is an issue. They watch people walking their dogs and remotely turn on their sprinkler system whenever people walk by. We have an elderly lady with dementia who regularly gets doused as she walks her small dog. Everyone is very respectful and picks up any dog poop. Our scared neighbors automatically move to the other side of the street. We feel stalked and sad.
Well I would imagine that here in the bubble just about every street has a resident that fits the description “elderly with dementia “. The good news is the irrigation water won’t hurt her or her dog maybe just a little stinky. I run around in my yard with them on adjusting the sprinkler heads occasionally. My back yard (fenced) is my dog’s bathroom. I don’t care if neighbors let their dogs potty in my front yard as long as they are responsible. One thing to note when everyone is concerned with dog poop the urine from el perro kills grass but if it gets watered immediately it won’t damage it

[Life as I know it]

You did not state if the water from the sprinklers are going into the road spraying the walkers or just spraying onto the owners property. There are little signs that can be put out there that say “No dogs on lawn”.
Better et, just pretend there is a car parked in front of his house and walk around it.
Remember it is his property, not everyone loves dogs…..

[jbartle1]

[QUOTE=MaryShields;2015479]Our neighbors need advice. We live in Monarch Grove and have a wonderful group of people living on our block of Gonzalez Lane. One of our neighbors is an issue. They watch people walking their dogs and remotely turn on their sprinkler system whenever people walk by. We have an elderly lady with dementia who regularly gets doused as she walks her small dog. Everyone is very respectful and picks up any dog poop. Our scared neighbors automatically move to the other side of the street. We

[tvbound]

If the sprinklers are properly calibrated to water only the lawn and not into the street (while allowing for drift from any wind, to stay off of the street) - I'm not seeing the problem.

[agjaret@aol.com]

Where are people supposed to walk their dogs? There aren’t sidewalks.

[midiwiz]

Our neighbors need advice. We live in Monarch Grove and have a wonderful group of people living on our block of Gonzalez Lane. One of our neighbors is an issue. They watch people walking their dogs and remotely turn on their sprinkler system whenever people walk by. We have an elderly lady with dementia who regularly gets doused as she walks her small dog. Everyone is very respectful and picks up any dog poop. Our scared neighbors automatically move to the other side of the street. We feel stalked and sad.

since the answers are "all over the road" (as usual) Here's the thing -

If it can be proved that every time (key phrase) someone sets foot in front of that house the sprinklers go on AND that it's vengeful, you have a case..

If it isn't every time then you have a$$h&&&s which gets handled differently - typically confrontation.

In order to prove this you'll need videos with time and date stamps over several days. Yes it's a lot of work, and people like this count on the fact that no one (especially here) will bother - however Ring has made this so very easy. You just need a Ring cam (any wifi motion activated cam will do) and it needs to be set up to trigger on that property and it's movement. one key factor to note is Ring is highly admissible where some cheap off brand may not be. Call it name notoriety

All this about where are the sprinklers pointing is BS nitpick junk, water in the road etc has ZERO bearing on this. You need to establish if this is purposeful.

I much prefer confrontation first, it might settle the reasoning portion. Also you know what you are dealing with and then it's easier to deal with.

[mike234]

I think the message here is simple. the person is sick of other peoples dogs, crapping on their lawn. picking up is not the excuse for letting your dog do it. why can't the dogs, go on their own lawns? it is not ok to let them do it, and pick it up. I don't care what issues the people have. it is absolutley wrong. I say, water that lawn and if that is what it takes, then so be it.
and don't give me this easement crap either. there is no excuse...

[Challenger]

Where are people supposed to walk their dogs? There aren’t sidewalks.

I love dogs. Don't have one. Where are people supposed to walk their dog? Not my problem and using my yard for a toilet is quite unacceptable. Who is engaging in the transgression here?

[butlerism]

As for the dogs on lawns... that is a big no no.

Very easy fix.
Go buy a plant sprayer /hudson sprayer.
Fill it with water.
Make sure you get out there in full view and spray the hell out of the easement daily as they approach.

Give the illusion of putting down chemicals.
Problem solved.

Add to the deception.... place an empty bottle of Roundup on the drive way like it is being used.

You will be amazed ........ People are sheep

[daca55]

I think the message here is simple. the person is sick of other peoples dogs, crapping on their lawn. picking up is not the excuse for letting your dog do it. why can't the dogs, go on their own lawns? it is not ok to let them do it, and pick it up. I don't care what issues the people have. it is absolutley wrong. I say, water that lawn and if that is what it takes, then so be it.
and don't give me this easement crap either. there is no excuse...

I agree! Lots of people who don’t have dogs take pride in their lawn and spend a lot to keep it looking nice. If people with dogs use somebody’s lawn for a toilet that is not fare. I doubt the owners are sitting there waiting for someone to toilet their dog on their lawn. The system is on a sensor. Dog owners should toilet their dogs on their own lawns and not someone else’s lawn.

[Travelhunter123]

Where are people supposed to walk their dogs? There aren’t sidewalks.

On their own property.
In the dog parks

[Flanman]

Here’s an idea…talk to the neighbor whose sprinkler goes off. We don’t seem to communicate with each other anymore. It could be a completely innocent thing and yet we take it to social media to make accusations.

[Nucky]

Depends on what they are doing. If they wait for the woman to walk the dog along their street in front of their house and then turn on the water from their system's controls probably in their garage and know that this woman has dementia then that is a different matter.

If it is automated to come on when there is any motion that might be a different matter. Then they are not targeting someone they should know has dementia.

Maybe it’s just me. Maybe the way I look 👀 at this is foolish. SHE SHOULDN’T BE WALKING A DOG ALONE IF SHE SUFFERS FROM Dementia.

[christine J Toft]

I think the message here is simple. the person is sick of other peoples dogs, crapping on their lawn. picking up is not the excuse for letting your dog do it. why can't the dogs, go on their own lawns? it is not ok to let them do it, and pick it up. I don't care what issues the people have. it is absolutley wrong. I say, water that lawn and if that is what it takes, then so be it.
and don't give me this easement crap either. there is no excuse...
Absolutely correct. Our dog is NEVER allowed to use someone else's yard. He uses only our back yard and we pick it up. Period. If we walk around Silver Lake, it gets picked up. Not everyone is courteous about that either and it's a shame. Walk your dog around your own yard, then take it for a friendly stroll to meet the neighbors.

[Eg_cruz]

Our neighbors need advice. We live in Monarch Grove and have a wonderful group of people living on our block of Gonzalez Lane. One of our neighbors is an issue. They watch people walking their dogs and remotely turn on their sprinkler system whenever people walk by. We have an elderly lady with dementia who regularly gets doused as she walks her small dog. Everyone is very respectful and picks up any dog poop. Our scared neighbors automatically move to the other side of the street. We feel stalked and sad.
Just go talk to them. Explain what they are going. I have found being direct and respectful gets to where you want to go.

[Bellavita]

Walk on the other side of the street



Our neighbors need advice. We live in Monarch Grove and have a wonderful group of people living on our block of Gonzalez Lane. One of our neighbors is an issue. They watch people walking their dogs and remotely turn on their sprinkler system whenever people walk by. We have an elderly lady with dementia who regularly gets doused as she walks her small dog. Everyone is very respectful and picks up any dog poop. Our scared neighbors automatically move to the other side of the street. We feel stalked and sad.

[JMintzer]

Hi, I see you’re a junior member. I should let you know, some of the regulars on this site are sort of rude and will always side with the person the OP is complaining about. I watch it all the time and it’s always like the same 5 people. Just so you know. Have a great day and I would advise walking on the opposite side of the street.

Um... They actually joined this site a year before you did...

"Junior Member" only refers to the # of posts one has...

Those who are more "chatty" (like me) will move up in the rankings quite quickly... :icon_wink:

[chasandvalr]

If your neighbor doesn't want dogs in his yard that is his right. I don't want them in mine, either. Why do dog owners think everyone's yards are bathroom for their dogs. Why can't they use their own yard and just walk their dog if they feel the need. There are also dog parks. Believe it or not, not everyone loves your dog like you think they do.

[JMintzer]

You did not state if the water from the sprinklers are going into the road spraying the walkers or just spraying onto the owners property. There are little signs that can be put out there that say “No dogs on lawn”.
Better et, just pretend there is a car parked in front of his house and walk around it.
Remember it is his property, not everyone loves dogs…..

The "Trolls" will file a complaint about the "No Dogs" or "No Pooping" signs... It happened to our neighbors across the street...

[chasandvalr]

Where are people supposed to walk their dogs? There aren’t sidewalks.

Dog parks exist. The issue isn't walking your dog it is using the bathroom in someone's yard OTHER THAN THE DOG OWNERS.

[mike234]

people try to justify that it is ok as long as I pick it up? well, it is not. they won't accept that. and the excuses are great. "I'll pick it up." " there are no sidewalks", and on and on. they deliberately let their dog, go on other peoples property. my dog goes on his own lawn. if I walk him, and I think he is lining up for a big one, I make him do it on the street, and pick it up there. does anyone have a problem with my dog going on the street as opposed to someones private property, as long as I pick it up?
it's like the gun argument. it's not the gun, it's the person holding it. it's not the dog, it's the person holding it.

[joseppe]

since the answers are "all over the road" (as usual) Here's the thing -

If it can be proved that every time (key phrase) someone sets foot in front of that house the sprinklers go on AND that it's vengeful, you have a case..

If it isn't every time then you have a$$h&&&s which gets handled differently - typically confrontation.

In order to prove this you'll need videos with time and date stamps over several days. Yes it's a lot of work, and people like this count on the fact that no one (especially here) will bother - however Ring has made this so very easy. You just need a Ring cam (any wifi motion activated cam will do) and it needs to be set up to trigger on that property and it's movement. one key factor to note is Ring is highly admissible where some cheap off brand may not be. Call it name notoriety

All this about where are the sprinklers pointing is BS nitpick junk, water in the road etc has ZERO bearing on this. You need to establish if this is purposeful.

I much prefer confrontation first, it might settle the reasoning portion. Also you know what you are dealing with and then it's easier to deal with.

A Case for WHAT? There is no Case here, there is no wrong doing. Turning on your sprinklers to keep someone from your property is not illegal.

[JMintzer]

since the answers are "all over the road" (as usual) Here's the thing -

If it can be proved that every time (key phrase) someone sets foot in front of that house the sprinklers go on AND that it's vengeful, you have a case..

If it isn't every time then you have a$$h&&&s which gets handled differently - typically confrontation.

In order to prove this you'll need videos with time and date stamps over several days. Yes it's a lot of work, and people like this count on the fact that no one (especially here) will bother - however Ring has made this so very easy. You just need a Ring cam (any wifi motion activated cam will do) and it needs to be set up to trigger on that property and it's movement. one key factor to note is Ring is highly admissible where some cheap off brand may not be. Call it name notoriety

All this about where are the sprinklers pointing is BS nitpick junk, water in the road etc has ZERO bearing on this. You need to establish if this is purposeful.

I much prefer confrontation first, it might settle the reasoning portion. Also you know what you are dealing with and then it's easier to deal with.

Next season on CBS, "CSI, Sprinkler Investigation"... :1rotfl:

[MDLNB]

Next season on CBS, "CSI, Sprinkler Investigation"... :1rotfl:




:mademyday::coolsmiley:

[JMintzer]

Absolutely correct. Our dog is NEVER allowed to use someone else's yard. He uses only our back yard and we pick it up. Period. If we walk around Silver Lake, it gets picked up. Not everyone is courteous about that either and it's a shame. Walk your dog around your own yard, then take it for a friendly stroll to meet the neighbors.

And they'll still make a deposit along the way... Just make sure you pick it up...

The reality is, you cannot time when a dog does what a dog does...

One problem "non-dog owners" are missing is that when the sun beats down on the street, the temp can cause serious burns to a dog's feet. Try walking barefoot just off your driveway if you don''t believe me. Walking along the edge of the grass is the only safe place for them.

And I agree, those who don't clean up after their dogs are jerks.

[Bogie Shooter]

Here’s an idea…talk to the neighbor whose sprinkler goes off. We don’t seem to communicate with each other anymore. It could be a completely innocent thing and yet we take it to social media to make accusations.

It took 20 posts but best advice.

[Malsua]

people try to justify that it is ok as long as I pick it up? well, it is not. they won't accept that. and the excuses are great. "I'll pick it up." " there are no sidewalks", and on and on. they deliberately let their dog, go on other peoples property. my dog goes on his own lawn. if I walk him, and I think he is lining up for a big one, I make him do it on the street, and pick it up there. does anyone have a problem with my dog going on the street as opposed to someones private property, as long as I pick it up?
it's like the gun argument. it's not the gun, it's the person holding it. it's not the dog, it's the person holding it.

I agree that you shouldn't let your dog on other people's property.

If you are in the easement, you are not on "their" property though. While they may mow it, maintain it, sit on it, roll in it, etc., it's not theirs. They can't build on it or put anything permanent on it. They might think it's theirs, it ain't. The setbacks are a lot further back than most people realize.

I don't let my dog go into other folk's yards, so I'm not defending that behavior.

Turning on a sprinkler if people are walking past is something a real @33!@#$ would do. Karma has a way of costing people money though. Toggling it on and off all the time like that and the valves might stop working(rodents chewing the wires attracted by the cool water in the valves) and the heads might just fall apart, almost like someone hit them with a hammer.

[merrymini]

People walk their dogs because it is necessary and fun for the dog. Walking on the concrete is cooler and, at least in the designer homes, you do not own the property from the curb to about 13 feet in. As to “forcing” a dog by pulling him out onto the road, yikes, nasty. Picking up after your dog is the issue. Address it politely and hope it works, then you can go further if it doesn’t.

[MDLNB]

First off, let me say that I feel for disabled folks, and I am sorry if they end up with unpleasant surprises when they venture about UN-escorted.
That said, as far as anyone else is concerned I would not take issue if someone took a hose to a dog (and/or the dog owner)on their lawn.
Another note: I love animals and especially dogs, but I would NEVER allow my dog to go on someone else's property.

For those that have motion operated sprinklers, I would be interested in where you obtained them and how you like them.

What is totally rude and unacceptable is those that take their dogs for a walk and will allow them to defecate at their next door neighbors yard, right after leaving their own property. My neighbor has NEVER even once had their dog drop on their own lawn, never. As a matter of fact, my neighbor once asked me to let them know when I treated my lawn with any chemicals so that they would not injure their dog when it went on my lawn. Don't know about you, but that seems like someone is asking a bit too much.
Let me reiterate, I love animals. But, you have no right to use my lawn as a bathroom. I put quite a bit of money and effort into making my lawn look nice and do not wish to smell or step into landmines left by folks that refuse to allow their animals to dirty their own lawns. If that makes me a bad person, then I can live with it. As far as I am concerned, taking advantage of someone else's charity, generosity or just good nature is being an example of the substance left by their animals.
And for the dummy that walks (?) their dog by driving beside it in a golf cart while it is leashed, you do not deserve to own a pet and should be reported to the humane society. If you are disabled, then get someone to walk the dog for you. This is not National Lampoon's Vacation where people laugh at the sight.
Warning: Do not bother complaining to me if my sprinkler (that sprinkles my property) gets you wet if you are trespassing.

[Two Bills]

Where are people supposed to walk their dogs? There aren’t sidewalks.

There are voluntary dog areas that villagers designate as places to allow your dogs to empty when walking.
They are marked by white crosses in front yards.
Anyone wishing to join the scheme, just need to plant a white cross! .:icon_wink:

[Daxdog]

We had one of them in our area, when they finally moved they went around and wrote up 29 house for violating the decoration standards. She also turned on sprinklers. We even tried to be nice to them complimented them on landscaping, but some people are just jerks.




QUOTE=MaryShields;2015479]Our neighbors need advice. We live in Monarch Grove and have a wonderful group of people living on our block of Gonzalez Lane. One of our neighbors is an issue. They watch people walking their dogs and remotely turn on their sprinkler system whenever people walk by. We have an elderly lady with dementia who regularly gets doused as she walks her small dog. Everyone is very respectful and picks up any dog poop. Our scared neighbors automatically move to the other side of the street. We feel stalked and sad.[/QUOTE]

[birdawg]

I agree that you shouldn't let your dog on other people's property.

If you are in the easement, you are not on "their" property though. While they may mow it, maintain it, sit on it, roll in it, etc., it's not theirs. They can't build on it or put anything permanent on it. They might think it's theirs, it ain't. The setbacks are a lot further back than most people realize.

I don't let my dog go into other folk's yards, so I'm not defending that behavior.

Turning on a sprinkler if people are walking past is something a real @33!@#$ would do. Karma has a way of costing people money though. Toggling it on and off all the time like that and the valves might stop working(rodents chewing the wires attracted by the cool water in the valves) and the heads might just fall apart, almost like someone hit them with a hammer.. Wrong the easement. Is owned by the home owner you have easements all around your home. Does that mean I can walk my dog on the side of your house. No if you have any questions call ARC or your tax assessor.

[mike234]

I agree that you shouldn't let your dog on other people's property.

If you are in the easement, you are not on "their" property though. While they may mow it, maintain it, sit on it, roll in it, etc., it's not theirs. They can't build on it or put anything permanent on it. They might think it's theirs, it ain't. The setbacks are a lot further back than most people realize.

I don't let my dog go into other folk's yards, so I'm not defending that behavior.

Turning on a sprinkler if people are walking past is something a real @33!@#$ would do. Karma has a way of costing people money though. Toggling it on and off all the time like that and the valves might stop working(rodents chewing the wires attracted by the cool water in the valves) and the heads might just fall apart, almost like someone hit them with a hammer.
the easement argument is an excuse. the easement is no excuse. you are trying to justify your dog crapping on someone else's property, and not on your own property. "it's not his property". nonsense. I would have my sprinkler on also with that mentality...
and going on the street is just as gross as someone else private property...

[LucyP]

I think the message here is simple. the person is sick of other peoples dogs, crapping on their lawn. picking up is not the excuse for letting your dog do it. why can't the dogs, go on their own lawns? it is not ok to let them do it, and pick it up. I don't care what issues the people have. it is absolutley wrong. I say, water that lawn and if that is what it takes, then so be it.
and don't give me this easement crap either. there is no excuse...

Sad we have rude / unhappy people and do not like Animals. Many complaints never a answer for a question. Never seen my lawn die from pee. Old tale not true. If people pickup poop there no problem. The lady needs help. You might help the lady walking her dog and get her to walk to other side . I have a neighbor that sits outside all the time. My friends feel uncomfortable with the guy looking. Busybody of the neighborhood. We have many around TV. You need proof to have something done.

[GRACEALLEMAN]

Yep this confirms that there are petty boring people here with nothing else to do but spy on neighbors walking their dog and someone waring to water their lawn. How dumb can one get?

[HotRodBoy]

They may have motion sprinkler which automatically comes on when detecting motion. I have it too, so animals will stay off the lawn, I think it’s a great idea. I’ve watered myself a couple of times when I forgot… it’s no biggy.
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OMG! Motion sprinklers, what a great idea to **** off the neighbors! :ohdear: Hopefully they also activate when it's raining.
I hope our new neighborhood is not like this! Unbelievable!!!!

[Neils]

My yard, my sprinkler. My property rights.

Yes. And i do have a dog too

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

The part of this complaint that amazes me is the “we feel stalked and sad” over someone who may or may not be intentionally spraying water on you , it certainly doesn’t take much to make some people sad. I walked the family dog in Boston much of summer , city dogs learn to go on concrete , when I have had dogs I never let them go on someone’s lawn and why not walk the other way or across the street or just help the woman , and if she’s living on her own she has some thought process going on

[jimkerr]

People who don’t like dogs are horrible human beings.

[Waltdisney4life]

It amazes me One pet owners think their animals can defecate anywhere! Stay off your neighbors lawn what’s so hard to understand! Female dog urine kills grass!!!

[walterray1]

People who don’t like dogs are horrible human beings.

Dogs are ok, but the people who post this kind of crap are another thing altogether.

[ThirdOfFive]

Our neighbors need advice. We live in Monarch Grove and have a wonderful group of people living on our block of Gonzalez Lane. One of our neighbors is an issue. They watch people walking their dogs and remotely turn on their sprinkler system whenever people walk by. We have an elderly lady with dementia who regularly gets doused as she walks her small dog. Everyone is very respectful and picks up any dog poop. Our scared neighbors automatically move to the other side of the street. We feel stalked and sad.
Back when we first moved here I found several piles on our lawn about two feet from the edge of the street. I'm pretty laid back about things but didn't want that to continue so I purchased one of those little lawn signs (maybe 8" square or so) urging people to pick up after their pooches. The problem stopped, but about two days later I found my sign turned around so it faced the house, not the street. There've been a few times since when I've been in the garage or outside when a dog has taken a dump on my lawn. The owner was meticulous about picking up after it. There have been no exchanges, just a friendly wave. I don't know whether or not the pile would have been there after the owner and pooch left, but judging from the fact I haven't seen a pile in just about a year now, I assume that the word has gone out and has been understood.

I don't mind dogs doing their thing on my lawn but I certainly do mind their owners not picking up after it.

[Lindaws]

Signs are not allowed on lawns.

[Velvet]

And they'll still make a deposit along the way... Just make sure you pick it up...

The reality is, you cannot time when a dog does what a dog does...

One problem "non-dog owners" are missing is that when the sun beats down on the street, the temp can cause serious burns to a dog's feet. Try walking barefoot just off your driveway if you don''t believe me. Walking along the edge of the grass is the only safe place for them.

And I agree, those who don't clean up after their dogs are jerks.

As a loving dog owner I feel that if one can’t walk the dog because of sun etc, except on other people’s lawns, can’t take it to the doggie park, for example, then that person can’t take care of the dog and needs help looking after it. Hire a person who can.

(Up north it was not the sun it was the salt, ice and snow that got in between my dog’s foot pads, so I made booties for both of my dogs. At first the Welsh terrier walked funny, like Hitler with the goose step, but in time he got used to it.)

[Velvet]

People who don’t like dogs are horrible human beings.

Just like people who don’t like cherry ice cream… lol, in my opinion.

[mike234]

Sad we have rude / unhappy people and do not like Animals. Many complaints never a answer for a question. Never seen my lawn die from pee. Old tale not true. If people pickup poop there no problem. The lady needs help. You might help the lady walking her dog and get her to walk to other side . I have a neighbor that sits outside all the time. My friends feel uncomfortable with the guy looking. Busybody of the neighborhood. We have many around TV. You need proof to have something done.
I have a dog. I like animals. you are ok-ing dogs pooping on other peoples grass as long as they pick it up....well I don't agree. if you do it I'll turn on my water if you are so inconsiderate .......you try to turn this into hate for dogs. it you who people are angry with for doing what your are doing......oh it's ok as long as you pick it up. pleeeeeeeeese

[ThirdOfFive]

Signs are not allowed on lawns.
Well, it was either that or razor wire...

[Indydealmaker]

Are the water sprinklers watering something other than their own lawn/property? Does the lady walking her dog step on their lawn?

They may have motion sprinkler which automatically comes on when detecting motion. I have it too, so animals will stay off the lawn, I think it’s a great idea. I’ve watered myself a couple of times when I forgot… it’s no biggy.

Now if the sprinklers water the street than that should be reported.

The Villages does not allow sprinklers other than the underground irrigation system plumbed to the Villages water source.

[Kelevision]

There are voluntary dog areas that villagers designate as places to allow your dogs to empty when walking.
They are marked by white crosses in front yards.
Anyone wishing to join the scheme, just need to plant a white cross! .:icon_wink:

Or any lawn ornament for that matter.

[Velvet]

The Villages does not allow sprinklers other than the underground irrigation system plumbed to the Villages water source.

A motion sensor can trigger the installed sprinklers.

If the lady has dementia, she needs a person with her for her own safety.

[Hankofthedesert]

I would get in touch with the "Elder Abuse" people....

[Velvet]

I have a dog. I like animals. you are ok-ing dogs pooping on other peoples grass as long as they pick it up....well I don't agree. if you do it I'll turn on my water if you are so inconsiderate .......you try to turn this into hate for dogs. it you who people are angry with for doing what your are doing......oh it's ok as long as you pick it up. pleeeeeeeeese

I hear you asking permission to use other people’s lawn. Are you ready to help pay for that lawn’s upkeep?

[Velvet]

I would get in touch with the "Elder Abuse" people....

Yes, I agree, they need to find out why is a person with dementia walking around by herself?

[JMintzer]

It amazes me One pet owners think their animals can defecate anywhere! Stay off your neighbors lawn what’s so hard to understand! Female dog urine kills grass!!!

No it doesn't...

Our female dog has done exactly ZERO damage to any lawn in any home we've ever owned...

[SHIBUMI]

On the surface this sounds horrible.......but once you think about it, it begs the questions, what right do people have to bring their dogs into your yard to pee and create brown spots on the grass, poop and you won't get all of it and it will burn the grass, they have no right. Dogs should go to the bathroom in their own yards or dog walking yards. Now I know why most yards look spotty, fault lies with the dog owners not the property owners. Dog owners believe everyones yard is their dogs toilet. Why is that?

[JMintzer]

Back when we first moved here I found several piles on our lawn about two feet from the edge of the street. I'm pretty laid back about things but didn't want that to continue so I purchased one of those little lawn signs (maybe 8" square or so) urging people to pick up after their pooches. The problem stopped, but about two days later I found my sign turned around so it faced the house, not the street. There've been a few times since when I've been in the garage or outside when a dog has taken a dump on my lawn. The owner was meticulous about picking up after it. There have been no exchanges, just a friendly wave. I don't know whether or not the pile would have been there after the owner and pooch left, but judging from the fact I haven't seen a pile in just about a year now, I assume that the word has gone out and has been understood.

I don't mind dogs doing their thing on my lawn but I certainly do mind their owners not picking up after it.

And thankfully, you are in the majority...

Our home backs to a cul de sac, and the neighbors behind us have a very large side yard. When we first met them, we were in our yard, with our 12 lb Schoodle (pictured as my avatar)...

She started running around playing with us, and them, with a case of "the zoomies". At one point, she stopped in her tracks and decided to "off load", right on their yard. We profusely apologized and our new neighbors said, "Don't worry about it, just make sure you clean it up, she can run around out here whenever she wants..."

A few days later, they invited us over for drinks, and said "Bring Maggie, we love her!". As we were sitting on their lanai, Maggie jumped in the husband's lap for a belly scratch... She found a new friend... He was just as happy as she was...

We have other neighbors (not dog owners) who carry treats when they take a walk...

Just be nice, just be respectful to your neighbors... It really isn't that hard...

[Toymeister]

Wifi jammer will do the trick.

They set up a ITTT (if this then that) routine with the ring motion function. Every time motion is detected then turn zone one on for two minutes.

Besides jamming the wifi you can shut off the irrigation or snap off the sprinkler heads. Certainly illegal but it will probably get the message across.

Flame away if you like. If I got sprayed for walking on the street they would suddenly have all sorts of problems.

[JMintzer]

Well, it was either that or razor wire...

Okay, that made me laugh!

[JMintzer]

I hear you asking permission to use other people’s lawn. Are you ready to help pay for that lawn’s upkeep?

And what "upkeep" would that be?

[photo1902]

And what "upkeep" would that be?

You really don’t know the answer? Geesh.

[JMintzer]

On the surface this sounds horrible.......but once you think about it, it begs the questions, what right do people have to bring their dogs into your yard to pee and create brown spots on the grass, poop and you won't get all of it and it will burn the grass, they have no right. Dogs should go to the bathroom in their own yards or dog walking yards. Now I know why most yards look spotty, fault lies with the dog owners not the property owners. Dog owners believe everyones yard is their dogs toilet. Why is that?

It's not the dogs that are causing brown spots...

It -may- happen in an area that gets constant use by pets, but not the occasional passerby...

[JMintzer]

Wifi jammer will do the trick.

They set up a ITTT (if this then that) routine with the ring motion function. Every time motion is detected then turn zone one on for two minutes.

Besides jamming the wifi you can shut off the irrigation or snap off the sprinkler heads. Certainly illegal but it will probably get the message across.

Flame away if you like. If I got sprayed for walking on the street they would suddenly have all sorts of problems.

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[JMintzer]

You really don’t know the answer? Geesh.

Maybe because there isn't any "upkeep" needed? Sheesh! (the correct spelling, btw, but "Jeesh" is also acceptable...)

[Velvet]

It's not the dogs that are causing brown spots...

It -may- happen in an area that gets constant use by pets, but not the occasional passerby...

That’s not correct. My male dogs peed in my backyard and I could always tell where they went. Part of the problem is that toiletting is disgusting and it smells and never ok to do at other people’s place without their permission. In order to own a dog one should have a plan as to how to take care of that dog.

One way I kept animals off my lawn is using spice where they would smell it. But it requires to be sprinkled after each rain. That is how I guided my dogs where I wanted them to go. That and treats when they did the right thing. Dogs are like young children and need training and help with knowing how to do the expected behavior. It is a lot of work and lots of people don’t want to take the trouble.

[photo1902]

Maybe because there isn't any "upkeep" needed? Sheesh! (the correct spelling, btw, but "Jeesh" is also acceptable...)

I guess if you live in a villa and have absolutely no grass, upkeep wouldn't be required. For those of us with lawns, watering, fertilizing, weeding and mowing is required. Hope this helps solve your confusion.

[JMintzer]

That’s not correct. My male dogs peed in my backyard and I could always tell where they went. Part of the problem is that toiletting is disgusting and it smells and never ok to do at other people’s place without their permission. In order to own a dog one should have a plan as to how to take care of that dog.

One way I kept animals off my lawn is using spice where they would smell it. But it requires to be sprinkled after each rain. That is how I guided my dogs where I wanted them to go. That and treats when they did the right thing. Dogs are like young children and need training and help with knowing how to do the expected behavior. It is a lot of work and lots of people don’t want to take the trouble.

That is because they went in the same place, time and time again...

So thanks for proving my point...

[JMintzer]

I guess if you live in a villa and have absolutely no grass, upkeep wouldn't be required. For those of us with lawns, watering, fertilizing, weeding and mowing is required. Hope this helps solve your confusion.

So, if a dog pees on your lawn, the owner should help you pay to have the lawn mowed, weeded, watered and fertilized? Sounds reasonable... Said no one ever...

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

The words stalked in sad make me wonder if this is a real problem or a story , what will make me sad is if any of the 4 or 5 games I bet today will lose , tough day staying alert till after 12 tonight with my NFL

[photo1902]

So, if a dog pees on your lawn, the owner should help you pay to have the lawn mowed, weeded, watered and fertilized? Sounds reasonable... Said no one ever...

Deflect all you want. If I still had a dog I wouldn’t dream of letting it use a neighbors lawn.

Chalk this up to the endless debate on this topic.

[JMintzer]

I guess if you live in a villa and have absolutely no grass, upkeep wouldn't be required. For those of us with lawns, watering, fertilizing, weeding and mowing is required. Hope this helps solve your confusion.

Oh, and no, I don't live in a Villa...

[JMintzer]

Deflect all you want. If I still had a dog I wouldn’t dream of letting it use a neighbors lawn.

Chalk this up to the endless debate on this topic.

Deflect? I responded to an actual post!

And I'd pay money to watch you try to stop your dog from peeing when on a walk...

[photo1902]

Deflect? I responded to an actual post!

And I'd pay money to watch you try to stop your dog from peeing when on a walk...

Silly me. All of the dogs I owned used my yard.

[Velvet]

A little forwards planning. My neighbor across the street actually has mild dementia. He walks his dog around his front lawn until the dog goes. If the dog doesn’t, they go back inside. Eventually the dog tries again. As a reward (I suppose) they then go for a walk. But he also takes the dog to the dog park every day. On rainy days they have dog play dates with visitors. Those dogs are also expected to go in his yard.

Up north, if you go on people’s lawns trespassing laws apply. I do not know if that is the case in TV.

[ThirdOfFive]

And thankfully, you are in the majority...

Our home backs to a cul de sac, and the neighbors behind us have a very large side yard. When we first met them, we were in our yard, with our 12 lb Schoodle (pictured as my avatar)...

She started running around playing with us, and them, with a case of "the zoomies". At one point, she stopped in her tracks and decided to "off load", right on their yard. We profusely apologized and our new neighbors said, "Don't worry about it, just make sure you clean it up, she can run around out here whenever she wants..."

A few days later, they invited us over for drinks, and said "Bring Maggie, we love her!". As we were sitting on their lanai, Maggie jumped in the husband's lap for a belly scratch... She found a new friend... He was just as happy as she was...

We have other neighbors (not dog owners) who carry treats when they take a walk...

Just be nice, just be respectful to your neighbors... It really isn't that hard...
"Just be nice, just be respectful to your neighbors... It really isn't that hard... "

Now THAT bears repeating!!

[Velvet]

"Just be nice, just be respectful to your neighbors... It really isn't that hard... "

Now THAT bears repeating!!

As a dog owner… I hope that is what you meant. It’s not like the home owner is running out to assault you for letting the dog on their property, is it?

[DaleDivine]

Where are people supposed to walk their dogs? There aren’t sidewalks.

In their own yards. That's where mine goes...
:ohdear::ohdear:

[golfing eagles]

I love dogs. Don't have one. Where are people supposed to walk their dog? Not my problem and using my yard for a toilet is quite unacceptable. Who is engaging in the transgression here?

WALK them wherever. MAKE THEM GO POTTY ON YOUR OWN PROPERTY!

[golfing eagles]

where are people supposed to walk their dogs? There aren’t sidewalks.

see post #86

[DonnaNi4os]

Our neighbors need advice. We live in Monarch Grove and have a wonderful group of people living on our block of Gonzalez Lane. One of our neighbors is an issue. They watch people walking their dogs and remotely turn on their sprinkler system whenever people walk by. We have an elderly lady with dementia who regularly gets doused as she walks her small dog. Everyone is very respectful and picks up any dog poop. Our scared neighbors automatically move to the other side of the street. We feel stalked and sad.

When I was a kid the neighborhood played ball on our street. We had a neighbor who hid in her bushes and God forbid a ball went into her yard she would pounce out with it in her hands and announced that she wasn’t giving it back. We learned to avoid her as much as possible, but she was a sad, mean-spirited woman and we felt sorry for her. All I can say about someone who intentionally would turn on their sprinklers on a woman with dementi is that it is sad. They need to get a hobby and remember that this is supposed to be the “friendliest” community. As a dog owner, I make sure my dog does not go onto anyone’s lawn. It is a matter of respect. I have a neighbor who allows her dog to poop on my front yard. She is an elderly lady who is sweet. I don’t stay up at night dwelling on it and so I let it go. Life is short.

[DaleDivine]

Just like people who don’t like cherry ice cream… lol, in my opinion.

OH NOOOO. There's people that don't like cherry ice cream ?? How horrible.
My favorite...
:coolsmiley::a040::clap2:

[Alana33]

1. Maybe the poster or a neighbor of the sprinkler home could let them know the lady has dementia.
She might slip and fall on the wet surface and seriously injure herself.
2. The lady and her dog could walk on the other side of the street.
3. If the lady has dementia, she may get lost when walking her dog. The neighbors concerned about her could offer to walk with her or walk the dog for her.
4. If the poster of this thread is concerned enough to post about this maybe he/she could help rectify the situation.
Good luck.

[Velvet]

When I was a kid the neighborhood played ball on our street. We had a neighbor who hid in her bushes and God forbid a ball went into her yard she would pounce out with it in her hands and announced that she wasn’t giving it back. We learned to avoid her as much as possible, but she was a sad, mean-spirited woman and we felt sorry for her. All I can say about someone who intentionally would turn on their sprinklers on a woman with dementi is that it is sad. They need to get a hobby and remember that this is supposed to be the “friendliest” community. As a dog owner, I make sure my dog does not go onto anyone’s lawn. It is a matter of respect. I have a neighbor who allows her dog to poop on my front yard. She is an elderly lady who is sweet. I don’t stay up at night dwelling on it and so I let it go. Life is short.

You are absolutely right about someone intentionally turning the sprinkler on a person with dementia or any other handicap. The person with dementia needs help and the proper authorities should be called to help her.

I love the way people use “friendliest town” in general though. Don’t you? It is almost always used by people who do something aggravating or illegal and expect the others to be “friendly” (put up with it) about it.

[valuemkt]

This is where not having kids in the Villages is a problem. In any other neighborhood this bad actor neighbor would be the beneficiary of a good house egging, toilet paper sculpture and even a burning bag of dog poop on their doorstep.

[DaleDivine]

Wifi jammer will do the trick.

They set up a ITTT (if this then that) routine with the ring motion function. Every time motion is detected then turn zone one on for two minutes.

Besides jamming the wifi you can shut off the irrigation or snap off the sprinkler heads. Certainly illegal but it will probably get the message across.

Flame away if you like. If I got sprayed for walking on the street they would suddenly have all sorts of problems.

Just don't get caught or YOU will have all sorts of problems...
:ohdear::ohdear:

[HORNET]

People just need to keep their animals off of other peoples property!!!!!

[Rwirish]

Feel stalked? I must be missing something.

[village dreamer]

Where are people supposed to walk their dogs? There aren’t sidewalks.

how about your yard

[JMintzer]

Silly me. All of the dogs I owned used my yard.

Then you probably never took them for a walk...

[Dennys37Packard]

We occasionally walk our dog around our neighborhood too. But usually at night where there is not the hot road to hurt her paws. She is on a leash and we walk for her exercise, NOT to relieve herself, that is done in our yard before hand. We keep the leash short and adjust our walk path so she cannot reach others lawns. We feel that is disrespectful of others. Allowing dogs to walk on others lawn edges is inappropriate since it is in their nature to smell and many want to mark their territory.

[JMintzer]

In their own yards. That's where mine goes...
:ohdear::ohdear:

That's not "a walk"...

[JMintzer]

WALK them wherever. MAKE THEM GO POTTY ON YOUR OWN PROPERTY!

Make them? Do you own a dog? Yes, you can have the "do their business" before you set out for a walk. But if you're walking them for more than 15-20 minutes, they stop and do it again...

[photo1902]

Then you probably never took them for a walk...

Oh please. Now you’re stooping to “I’m a better dog owner than you”. You’re embarrassing yourself.

[Rsenholzi]

I think the answer is easy- stay off the lawn. Being on a corner piece of property I resent all my neighbors walking their dogs on my lawn. I walk barefoot all the time and have stepped in poop repeatedly from those leaving poop on the lawn. There is no way you can clean up all the poop . Some is always left. I never walk my dogs on someone else’s property. Mine are trained to go before I leave, or when I come back. If they do have an accident off property it is in the street not on someone’s property. They pay big bucks to maintain their property and you should have respect for it. As far as I am concerned , it’s you that are the bad neighbor, not them.

[JMintzer]

Oh please. Now you’re stooping to “I’m a better dog owner than you”. You’re embarrassing yourself.

Nope. Just being a realist...

[JMintzer]

I think the answer is easy- stay off the lawn. Being on a corner piece of property I resent all my neighbors walking their dogs on my lawn. I walk barefoot all the time and have stepped in poop repeatedly from those leaving poop on the lawn. There is no way you can clean up all the poop . Some is always left. I never walk my dogs on someone else’s property. Mine are trained to go before I leave, or when I come back. If they do have an accident off property it is in the street not on someone’s property. They pay big bucks to maintain their property and you should have respect for it. As far as I am concerned , it’s you that are the bad neighbor, not them.

Maybe you're stepping in your dog's poop, since "There is no way you can clean up all the poop. Some is always left"... Just a thought...

[kkingston57]

Have never heard of sprinklers which respond to movement. Concept seems ridiculous. If they exist, would make it a point to walk on other side of the street. If this problem escalates, need to audition for TV show, Love Thy Neighbor.

[MDLNB]

And they'll still make a deposit along the way... Just make sure you pick it up...

The reality is, you cannot time when a dog does what a dog does...

One problem "non-dog owners" are missing is that when the sun beats down on the street, the temp can cause serious burns to a dog's feet. Try walking barefoot just off your driveway if you don''t believe me. Walking along the edge of the grass is the only safe place for them.

And I agree, those who don't clean up after their dogs are jerks.


Actually, you can if you know a little about dogs. I trained dogs to go WHERE I wanted them to, and it was not hard at all. Cats certainly know how to use a litter box.

But, I understand how MOST folks in the villages do not KNOW dogs and do not understand how to handle them. It wouldn't take them much time to learn IF they really wanted to learn how to handle their pet.:doggie:

[MaryShields]

You did not state if the water from the sprinklers are going into the road spraying the walkers or just spraying onto the owners property. There are little signs that can be put out there that say “No dogs on lawn”.
Better et, just pretend there is a car parked in front of his house and walk around it.
Remember it is his property, not everyone loves dogs…..

Just to clarify. He watches people walk their dogs and turns on the sprinklers with a remote. The water sprays out into the street. Not a huge deal, just not a very neighborly neighbor!

[MaryShields]

It’s sad and unfortunate but there’s always a bad apple in the bag. I have 3 in my lovely neighborhood. Perhaps it’s because I’m picturing my neighborhood, which has no sidewalks so I would just walk on the other side of the street? I don’t understand how the water is hitting her unless it’s not hitting the actual yard?? Good luck. It does sound like it’s on some sort of auto sensor. Or maybe you really do have the worst neighbors.

No auto sensor. He watches from his garage and remotely activates the sprinklers as dog walkers stroll by. They spray way out into the street. No biggie, just a crummy neighbor.

[Velvet]

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[Velvet]

Just to clarify. He watches people walk their dogs and turns on the sprinklers with a remote. The water sprays out into the street. Not a huge deal, just not a very neighborly neighbor!

On the street? That is a big no, no. And unless this neighbor had a really traumatic incident in the past, if they have nothing better to do all day than watch who might walk by - with a remote in their hand, they really don’t have a life. Maybe a mental problem.

[golfing eagles]

Make them? Do you own a dog? Yes, you can have the "do their business" before you set out for a walk. But if you're walking them for more than 15-20 minutes, they stop and do it again...

Yes, I own dogs continuously since I was 6 years old. Mine are trained to go at home.

[MaryShields]

Agreed

[Rose Ann Vinci Igoe]

Our neighbors need advice. We live in Monarch Grove and have a wonderful group of people living on our block of Gonzalez Lane. One of our neighbors is an issue. They watch people walking their dogs and remotely turn on their sprinkler system whenever people walk by. We have an elderly lady with dementia who regularly gets doused as she walks her small dog. Everyone is very respectful and picks up any dog poop. Our scared neighbors automatically move to the other side of the street. We feel stalked and sad.

It really just sounds like the sprinklers are on Auto.... people are not going to sit by the window day after day to zip everyone who comes near their lawn. Some people do have this system on Auto. Don't take it personal, and assume. Just walk on the other side of the street, problem solved.. and you still have a good neighbor. You have to be pretty close or on the lawn for it to activate....Its not Personal...

[CFrance]

It really just sounds like the sprinklers are on Auto.... people are not going to sit by the window day after day to zip everyone who comes near their lawn. Some people do have this system on Auto. Don't take it personal, and assume. Just walk on the other side of the street, problem solved.. and you still have a good neighbor. You have to be pretty close or on the lawn for it to activate....Its not Personal...
See posts #107 & 108

[Taltarzac725]

No auto sensor. He watches from his garage and remotely activates the sprinklers as dog walkers stroll by. They spray way out into the street. No biggie, just a crummy neighbor.

Someone should get the police involved wherever this is in the Villages. They are actually very good at diffusing bad situations most of the time especially here in the Villages. Just have whoever contacts them show some tact. You get more bees with honey....

[Escape Artist]

Our neighbors need advice. We live in Monarch Grove and have a wonderful group of people living on our block of Gonzalez Lane. One of our neighbors is an issue. They watch people walking their dogs and remotely turn on their sprinkler system whenever people walk by. We have an elderly lady with dementia who regularly gets doused as she walks her small dog. Everyone is very respectful and picks up any dog poop. Our scared neighbors automatically move to the other side of the street. We feel stalked and sad.

without intending it, you have started a firestorm of controversy on TOTV (as if it needs more of that). IMO, it's probably a motion detector sprinkler system - unless you see the person inside the house peering through the lace curtains as you walk by.

Of course, no one has lace curtains anymore, but back in the day, they were all the rage for elderly ladies, often times widows or spinsters, that liked to hide behind them and watch the world go by, and make note of comings and goings and any odd occurrences so they could gossip about it at the church bazaar or village bean supper. Maybe it was better that way rather than airing these grievances to strangers hiding behind aliases on a public message board.

[The Caretaker]

That is totally uncalled for. If you do not like dogs The Villages is not the place for you. We all sometimes need a companion and a person is not an option. Also dogs are great therapy for some. He should be shunned by the community. That is a shame!!!

[MaryShields]

without intending it, you have started a firestorm of controversy on TOTV (as if it needs more of that). IMO, it's probably a motion detector sprinkler system - unless you see the person inside the house peering through the lace curtains as you walk by.

Of course, no one has lace curtains anymore, but back in the day, they were all the rage for elderly ladies, often times widows or spinsters, that liked to hide behind them and watch the world go by, and make note of comings and goings and any odd occurrences so they could gossip about it at the church bazaar or village bean supper. Maybe it was better that way rather than airing these grievances to strangers hiding behind aliases on a public message board.
Yes, our neighbors have observed him in the garage watching for dog poopers with his remote control. Get a life!

[tophcfa]

Just to clarify. He watches people walk their dogs and turns on the sprinklers with a remote. The water sprays out into the street. Not a huge deal, just not a very neighborly neighbor!

Hmmm, wouldn’t it be a shame if someone were to accidentally swerve their car when driving by his house and crush the sprinkler heads! I hate when that happens : )

[MaryShields]

Thanks much. Our other neighbors are the best! We all take care of each other������



Thanks
all

[Spalumbos62]

No auto sensor. He watches from his garage and remotely activates the sprinklers as dog walkers stroll by. They spray way out into the street. No biggie, just a crummy neighbor.

Does he also try to spray walkers in general, or only ones with dogs.
Maybe you should walk the dog with a group of people and see what he does...if he sprays you all, I'd be walking right up to his garage for a "group" conversation, after I took all the photos.

[MaryShields]

Does he also try to spray walkers in general, or only ones with dogs.
Maybe you should walk the dog with a group of people and see what he does...if he sprays you all, I'd be walking right up to his garage for a "group" conversation, after I took all the photos.

Just the people with dogs however he yelled at my visiting daughter for parking too flocs to close to his lawn.b

[Topspinmo]

Tomorrow’s hot topic post; my neighbor’s are ganging up on me cause I don’t want dogs in my yard. :doggie::)

[thevillages2013]

It amazes me One pet owners think their animals can defecate anywhere! Stay off your neighbors lawn what’s so hard to understand! Female dog urine kills grass!!!

Male dog urine kills grass also especially the ones that squat to pee

[thevillages2013]

Around page four is when it happened

[Toymeister]

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[Dotneko]

That is totally uncalled for. If you do not like dogs The Villages is not the place for you. We all sometimes need a companion and a person is not an option. Also dogs are great therapy for some. He should be shunned by the community. That is a shame!!!

I don't remember a must love dogs clause in my purchase documents. Personally, I think they are smelly, disgusting things. I would never own one, nor do I want to pat it or be its friend. Keep it at a distance and we are fine.
Oh, and keep it out of the supermarket and shopping carts too. I don't want dog azzzz where my food goes.

[thevillages2013]

I don't remember a must love dogs clause in my purchase documents. Personally, I think they are smelly, disgusting things. I would never own one, nor do I want to pat it or be its friend. Keep it at a distance and we are fine.
Oh, and keep it out of the supermarket and shopping carts too. I don't want dog azzzz where my food goes.
I just asked my dog and he doesn’t like you either :bigbow:

[DaleDivine]

I just asked my dog and he doesn’t like you either :bigbow:

:1rotfl::1rotfl:

[TOMCAT]

I do not live in The Villages yet. Almost did in 2018, but we lost the villa we wanted to another buyer. It seems like homes get sold up very fast there. Well anyway, I have a dog. I try to stay in the street with him. It is easier here than The Villages. I do try to be conscientious of my neighbors’ property. I did notice the streets are very narrow there in The Villages. If I do get there again, I think I will make sure there is a side street with no homes to walk him. That way I do not accidentally go on someone else’s property.

[Dotneko]

I just asked my dog and he doesn’t like you either :bigbow:

Excellent that you can communicate so well with him. Now tell him not to crap on my lawn please.

[Petersweeney]

It’s going to take me 3 days on the morning thrown to read this thread and I skipped to the end because I had to be a part of it

[golfing eagles]

It’s going to take me 3 days on the morning thrown to read this thread and I skipped to the end because I had to be a part of it

Were you playing ball with your dog, or was that THRONE????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[mike234]

Does he also try to spray walkers in general, or only ones with dogs.
Maybe you should walk the dog with a group of people and see what he does...if he sprays you all, I'd be walking right up to his garage for a "group" conversation, after I took all the photos.
walk up to his garage? are you some sort of tough guy? are you not too bright? he doesn't want your dog, or you on his property. what don't you get? now you are trespassing and if you are a threat, watch out. this argument is over. keep off my property is a simple. and keep your dog, off my property too, and out of stores and restaurants also... do you think you are going to be mr. arbitrator?

[midiwiz]

A Case for WHAT? There is no Case here, there is no wrong doing. Turning on your sprinklers to keep someone from your property is not illegal.

actually it is if it is intentional.

[nick demis]

I love dogs. I hate people that think they have the right to impose their wills and desires on me. To live in the Villages you are supposed to be 55 or over. You would think that by that age you would have learned respect for other peoples property and their feeling. Maybe the Villages shouldn't have an age requirement but a maturity and courtesy clause.

[golfing eagles]

walk up to his garage? are you some sort of tough guy? are you not too bright? he doesn't want your dog, or you on his property. what don't you get? now you are trespassing and if you are a threat, watch out. this argument is over. keep off my property is a simple. and keep your dog, off my property too, and out of stores and restaurants also... do you think you are going to be mr. arbitrator?

Maybe that person is both. I wonder if he considered that someone "off kilter" enough to hide in the bushes so he can remotely activate his sprinklers is also capable of having a CCW and the poor judgement to use it?

[bilcon]

Our neighbors need advice. We live in Monarch Grove and have a wonderful group of people living on our block of Gonzalez Lane. One of our neighbors is an issue. They watch people walking their dogs and remotely turn on their sprinkler system whenever people walk by. We have an elderly lady with dementia who regularly gets doused as she walks her small dog. Everyone is very respectful and picks up any dog poop. Our scared neighbors automatically move to the other side of the street. We feel stalked and sad.

That's rude, but so are the dog walkers who let their pooches go on my lawn. They pick it up, but do they clean the residue left on my lawn. I think not. Your neighbor must be very bored if he/she sits there and watches for dog walkers so he can turn on the sprinklers. Solution: Walk your dogs at the dog park.

[brianherlihy]

at the dog park

[Taltarzac725]

at the dog park

The woman in question has dementia and probably should not be driving either a golf cart nor a car to a dog park or anywhere else.

And she is out in the street when the water gets turned on inside the garage by the crappy neighbor and from what I can see online is not having her dog poop and pee on the specific neighbor's lawn.

[Taltarzac725]

Hopefully with all the views of this thread some Community Watch as well as some curious retired and active LEOs have read many of the posts on this thread and will hopefully cruise on by.

I have run into many retired LEOS here in the Villages who love dogs and maybe also have parents or other loved ones with dementia or Alzheimers. Pets would be a huge help to patients with dementia and Alzheimers. Alzheimer's Disease: The Magic of Pets | BrightFocus Foundation (https://www.brightfocus.org/alzheimers/article/alzheimers-disease-magic-pets)

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Okay RightOn. I’m sure there are lots of cops ready to stake out this guys house and wait for the assault by water and while they are there they can also make an arrest of the person trespassing on his lawn

[Taltarzac725]

Okay RightOn. I’m sure there are lots of cops ready to stake out this guys house and wait for the assault by water and while they are there they can also make an arrest of the person trespassing on his lawn

All it takes is someone to have a frank talk with some of the people in this neigborhood. Targeting someone with what is in essence a water cannon is a crime. And this seems aimed at someone with limited cognitive abilities which makes it worse. Some cell phone captures of this happening would work but why should this be even continuing? The police should have a talk with this couple who are making someone with Alzheimer's and/or dementia life more difficult for no legitimate reason.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

So it’s gone from turning on sprinklers to hiding all day in garage waiting for people to come by, to assault by water cannon, what’s next an air strike . Doesn’t anyone think the words stalk and sad make this whole post a little suspect ??

[Bogie Shooter]

So it’s gone from turning on sprinklers to hiding all day in garage waiting for people to come by, to assault by water cannon, what’s next an air strike . Doesn’t anyone think the words stalk and sad make this whole post a little suspect ??

Plus….
OP has not shared if the neighbors have contacted the water shooter, Community Watch, or the county sheriff.
Just came on here looking, for who knows what. Why was it even posted to TOTV?

[70 Challenger]

The bottom line is, keep your dog off of the lawn. Take it to a dog park

[joelfmi]

Our neighbors need advice. We live in Monarch Grove and have a wonderful group of people living on our block of Gonzalez Lane. One of our neighbors is an issue. They watch people walking their dogs and remotely turn on their sprinkler system whenever people walk by. We have an elderly lady with dementia who regularly gets doused as she walks her small dog. Everyone is very respectful and picks up any dog poop. Our scared neighbors automatically move to the other side of the street. We feel stalked and sad.

before you do anything find out if this area will a take your health insurance coverage. Health insurance and doctors and hospitals is a challenge at the villages

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Excuse me but what are you talking about ?????

[Dana1963]

So it’s gone from turning on sprinklers to hiding all day in garage waiting for people to come by, to assault by water cannon, what’s next an air strike . Doesn’t anyone think the words stalk and sad make this whole post a little suspect ??
I agree as with most posts on TOTV it gets way off the original post a few more and it will morph into masks or not to mask. I hope this post gets political and shut down.
I just wonder how good the lawn is with all that watering does he use a push mower?

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Well I’m also finished the table deliver guys are 5 minutes away I got lucky today my window was 9 to 1 I saved 21 minutes lol

[daspiva]

Our neighbors need advice. We live in Monarch Grove and have a wonderful group of people living on our block of Gonzalez Lane. One of our neighbors is an issue. They watch people walking their dogs and remotely turn on their sprinkler system whenever people walk by. We have an elderly lady with dementia who regularly gets doused as she walks her small dog. Everyone is very respectful and picks up any dog poop. Our scared neighbors automatically move to the other side of the street. We feel stalked and sad.



It is sad that this lady with dementia is getting dosed with that property owners sprinkler for sure. Maybe it IS motion censored. But what would make the most common sense is for that lady to just stay away for that yard in the first place. A homeowner has a right to keep a clean lawn without any dog messes! This is the reason I don't have a dog: no fenced yard to run around in and I'm not comfortable having to pick up dog mess off someone else's lawn. When I have a visiting canine over, I walk the dog FIRST in my own yard so I can clean up quicker, then walk the dog through the neighborhood. If a person has dementia, then they might be able to actually get lost somewhere and the problem becomes bigger than the dog walking issue. Maybe some of the folks in the neighborhood can volunteer to accompany this lady when she walks the dog or volunteer to do some of it for her. <3 With all due respect: step up neighbors, don't just complain about the situation.

[ANT33]

Our neighbors need advice. We live in Monarch Grove and have a wonderful group of people living on our block of Gonzalez Lane. One of our neighbors is an issue. They watch people walking their dogs and remotely turn on their sprinkler system whenever people walk by. We have an elderly lady with dementia who regularly gets doused as she walks her small dog. Everyone is very respectful and picks up any dog poop. Our scared neighbors automatically move to the other side of the street. We feel stalked and sad.

Anyone tried to have a reasonable conversation with them? Ask if they have motion sensors?

[Villageswimmer]

So it’s gone from turning on sprinklers to hiding all day in garage waiting for people to come by, to assault by water cannon, what’s next an air strike . Doesn’t anyone think the words stalk and sad make this whole post a little suspect ??


This post made me laugh.

If this happened to me once, I’d take the hint and walk on the other side of the street.

[Boomer]

Deah lawd! I have got to stop reading this thread.

I keep picturing Villagers with torches and pitchforks and cellphone cameras. :22yikes:

Somebody is stirring up a mob mentality on that street. A lot of people seem to thrive on drama and chaos. And some people just love to wallow around in victim mentality about the least things — Stalked? Sad? Geez.

If this guy really is in-wait to set off his irrigation system, well. . . I think I would be giving him a wide berth — a work-around — instead of getting all fired up. Actually, a part of me has to laugh a little, wondering if he just has an odd sense of humor or is maybe trying an experiment in training humans and dogs alike to see who catches on fastest. Oh who knows.

BUT, the part that really has my attention is that if there is true concern about the lady who might be in a stage of dementia, why aren’t people trying to help her (if this is such a wonderful neighborhood) — instead of trying to use her situation as some kind of “noble” excuse for creating drama?

On a street like this — where drama thrives, I would have to ask myself, “Who will be the next target?”

Now, I am sure the thread will just roll on and on, back to the all important secondary topic here, that took over, of course — “The Origin of the Feces.”

Boomer

[Taltarzac725]

Our neighbors need advice. We live in Monarch Grove and have a wonderful group of people living on our block of Gonzalez Lane. One of our neighbors is an issue. They watch people walking their dogs and remotely turn on their sprinkler system whenever people walk by. We have an elderly lady with dementia who regularly gets doused as she walks her small dog. Everyone is very respectful and picks up any dog poop. Our scared neighbors automatically move to the other side of the street. We feel stalked and sad.

Sorry to see this has gone on so long as a thread.

This is way south in the Villages in the very new sections on the other side of Florida's Turnpike. Probably under the jurisdiction of the Wildwood PD.

Hopefully the problems can be solved. Some very bad neighbors and a woman with dementia who owns a dog that needs to get out to do its business and get some exercise. The lady and the dog would need exercise.

[Philipd411]

It's sad for sure Tal. The lady with dementia shouldn't be walking a dog without a guardian with her.

I don't blame the property owner for their actions. I hope they never miss any person who disrespects their property. Carry On! :boxing2:

So a person that is just walking by with their dog deserves to get soaked? Only because they might let their dog pee in the yard?

[Bogie Shooter]

So a person that is just walking by with their dog deserves to get soaked? Only because they might let their dog pee in the yard?

Answers to your questions can be found in posts 2-155.:duck:

[MDLNB]

You can bring a dog to water/sprinkler but you can't make him drink...........:doggie:

[brianherlihy]

i just went out side and the pooped and and the guy just walked away. i picked it up the put it in road and the guy next door told me to pick it up and i told him to pick it up and to lump it

[golfing eagles]

i just went out side and the pooped and and the guy just walked away. i picked it up the put it in road and the guy next door told me to pick it up and i told him to pick it up and to lump it

Dale Carnegie graduate?????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Nucky]

All it takes is someone to have a frank talk with some of the people in this neigborhood. Targeting someone with what is in essence a water cannon is a crime. And this seems aimed at someone with limited cognitive abilities which makes it worse. Some cell phone captures of this happening would work but why should this be even continuing? The police should have a talk with this couple who are making someone with Alzheimer's and/or dementia life more difficult for no legitimate reason.

WATER CANNON = SPRINKLER.

Tell me you process this next point. The person has dementia and should not be alone! DO U GET IT?

If you grasp this my old friend, then that ends the conversation.

I put Pepper on my lawn once and it worked great. Turns out I don't feel comfortable doing that to a Dog. I would turn a WATER CANNON on the little beauty that's violating my property. Taking your dog for a walk is exactly that. It has NOTHING to do with relieving itself. Not the dog's fault, just stupid owners. WATER CANNON - LOL :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[birdawg]

Why don’t one of those good neighbors help out and walk the dog for the nice lady with dementia. That would be a win for everyone

[Tom52]

Water cannon connected to the irrigation system???? Where do I buy me some. I could install one on each side of the house and get my siding pressure washed every time I sprinkle the grass.

[Taltarzac725]

Water cannon connected to the irrigation system???? Where do I buy me some. I could install one on each side of the house and get my siding pressure washed every time I sprinkle the grass.

https://www.amazon.com/water-cannon/s?k=water+cannon

I was thinking more along a squirt gun and not what is used to hose down protestors in Rome.

Getting sprayed by one of these Villages' area irrigation systems can get you very wet very quickly.

[Topspinmo]

Nothing like good dog poop thread. What this number 1, 999?

[Taltarzac725]

Nothing like good dog poop thread. What this number 1, 999?

Probably much higher in the dog poop department. But this is about bad neighbors turning on their sprinkling system when a woman with dementia is walking her dog and she gets too close to their property. So, they try to drench her. Has nothing to do with poop or pee.

[mrrmauu]

Our neighbors need advice. We live in Monarch Grove and have a wonderful group of people living on our block of Gonzalez Lane. One of our neighbors is an issue. They watch people walking their dogs and remotely turn on their sprinkler system whenever people walk by. We have an elderly lady with dementia who regularly gets doused as she walks her small dog. Everyone is very respectful and picks up any dog poop. Our scared neighbors automatically move to the other side of the street. We feel stalked and sad.

Show me on the doll where the mean man hurt you.

[Emmakrock@yahoo.com]

Maybe a lawsuit is in order. A fall would be a disaster. If you show intent to either the dog or the person.

[Emmakrock@yahoo.com]

Maybe a lawsuit is in order. A fall would be a disaster. If you show intent to either the dog or the person. So glad I live in such a nice neighborhood. In a place this big you get all kinds!

[agjaret@aol.com]

A dog has to go immediately. Not hold to a dog park. If this is what I am to expect coming to villages I’m already sorry to be going there. Dogs go outside. They like to be walked. They don’t do whatever on demand. What exactly do you want. Dogs and owners to walk in the middle of the road.

[MDLNB]

https://www.amazon.com/water-cannon/s?k=water+cannon

I was thinking more along a squirt gun and not what is used to hose down protestors in Rome.

Getting sprayed by one of these Villages' area irrigation systems can get you very wet very quickly.


Only if you continue to stand there. Most folks would move quickly out of the zone.

[agjaret@aol.com]

What is the easement? 5’10’ from edge of road. Thank you.

[MDLNB]

Let's put this to a rest.
If the sprinkler comes on and soaks that lady IN-IN-IN the street, that's just wrong.
If the sprinkler comes on and soaks someone that is in the guy's yard, then no fault-no foul.
Come on folks. Someone in the neighborhood should accompany the lady when she is walking her dog so that she doesn't harm herself. I know that most neighborhoods in the Villages have residents that take care of each other.

[birdawg]

What is the easement? 5’10’ from edge of road. Thank you.. Again the easement is for the town and the utility companies. Not for public access. Know what your posting. Before you know it people will be parking their cars on your lawn thinking they have a right.

[joelfmi]

Our neighbors need advice. We live in Monarch Grove and have a wonderful group of people living on our block of Gonzalez Lane. One of our neighbors is an issue. They watch people walking their dogs and remotely turn on their sprinkler system whenever people walk by. We have an elderly lady with dementia who regularly gets doused as she walks her small dog. Everyone is very respectful and picks up any dog poop. Our scared neighbors automatically move to the other side of the street. We feel stalked and sad.

You spend a lot of money for a home and have to be miserable. For man whom live near a waterfall will be destined to drown in a glass of water.

[BlueStarAirlines]

I think we can combine the "Is the Villages too big" and this one and make it required reading before anyone is allowed to move into the Villages. It might help change some minds about the move!

If anyone knows what street the OP lives on, please perform a public service and post it so the public knows where to never move to. Sounds like a bunch of gossipy old ladies with nothing better to do than create drama......

[angelscelebrate]

since the answers are "all over the road" (as usual) Here's the thing -

If it can be proved that every time (key phrase) someone sets foot in front of that house the sprinklers go on AND that it's vengeful, you have a case..

If it isn't every time then you have a$$h&&&s which gets handled differently - typically confrontation.

In order to prove this you'll need videos with time and date stamps over several days. Yes it's a lot of work, and people like this count on the fact that no one (especially here) will bother - however Ring has made this so very easy. You just need a Ring cam (any wifi motion activated cam will do) and it needs to be set up to trigger on that property and it's movement. one key factor to note is Ring is highly admissible where some cheap off brand may not be. Call it name notoriety

All this about where are the sprinklers pointing is BS nitpick junk, water in the road etc has ZERO bearing on this. You need to establish if this is purposeful.

I much prefer confrontation first, it might settle the reasoning portion. Also you know what you are dealing with and then it's easier to deal with.

Agree with these measures! Not to mention, no one OWNS the first 3' of their property. It is easement and belongs to the county. People do NOT have the right to keep you or your pet off of the 3' easement. Respectfully pick up you pet's s%^t of course. There are also watering hours here in TV. During the day, after 7:00 AM you are not supposed to water so there is that avenue for complaint as well.

[angelscelebrate]

[QUOTE=MaryShields;2015479]Our neighbors need advice. We live in Monarch Grove and have a wonderful group of people living on our block of Gonzalez Lane. One of our neighbors is an issue. They watch people walking their dogs and remotely turn on their sprinkler system whenever people walk by. We have an elderly lady with dementia who regularly gets doused as she walks her small dog. Everyone is very respectful and picks up any dog poop. Our scared neighbors automatically move to the other side of the street. We

Agree with these measures! Not to mention, no one OWNS the first 3' of their property. It is easement and belongs to the county. People do NOT have the right to keep you or your pet off of the 3' easement. Respectfully pick up you pet's s%^t of course. There are also watering hours here in TV. During the day, after 7:00 AM you are not supposed to water so there is that avenue for complaint as well.

[tvbound]

Agree with these measures! Not to mention, no one OWNS the first 3' of their property. It is easement and belongs to the county. People do NOT have the right to keep you or your pet off of the 3' easement. Respectfully pick up you pet's s%^t of course. There are also watering hours here in TV. During the day, after 7:00 AM you are not supposed to water so there is that avenue for complaint as well.

" Not to mention, no one OWNS the first 3' of their property. It is easement and belongs to the county."

Sorry, but you are dead wrong.

What is an Easement? Everything You Need to Know | Quicken Loans (https://www.quickenloans.com/learn/easement)

"A property easement is a legal situation in which the title to a specific piece land remains with the landowner, but another person or organization is given the right to use that land for a distinct purpose. For example, a utility company may have an easement that allows them access to an electrical pole on your property."

If neighbors just kept their pets off of other people's property, there wouldn't be an issue. As mentioned previously, someone should obviously reach out and try to help this lady - if she's suffering from dementia.

[MDLNB]

" Not to mention, no one OWNS the first 3' of their property. It is easement and belongs to the county. People do NOT have the right to keep you or your pet off of the 3' easement. "

Sorry, but you are dead wrong.

What is an Easement? Everything You Need to Know | Quicken Loans (http:///learn/easement)

"A property easement is a legal situation in which the title to a specific piece land remains with the landowner, but another person or organization is given the right to use that land for a distinct purpose."

If neighbors just kept their pets off of other people's property, there wouldn't be an issue. As mentioned previously, someone should obviously reach out and try to help this lady - if she's suffering from dementia.


Not to get into an argument but if you look at your copy of the property plat, you will see that your actual property ends way short of the road. If you see a marker nail/peg in your drive (villa owners) that is where your property ends. On the other hand, you are responsible for maintaining the property all the way to the road.

In response to the poster that stated that you are not supposed to water your lawn after 7am, I believe that is just a suggestion, NOT a rule. Not sure, so I may be corrected. They also suggest watering days of the week, but no one adheres to it. I am not sure that any of that can be enforced, but again I may be corrected.

Easements for utilities is another issue. You can have an easement ON your property or through your property. The issue in this case is whether or not you have any authority to or requirement for maintenance on your front area near the road. I don't know about your neighborhood, but in mine we have sprinkler heads right at the edge of the street.

[brianherlihy]

i will take the grass 3 ft up so dog and cat can du poop and i dont have to water or mow it and pick up poop: :bigbow:

[golfing eagles]

i will take the grass 3 ft up so dog and cat can du poop and i dont have to water or mow it and pick up poop: :bigbow:

Good luck with that with Community Standards, better read your deed restrictions.

[OhioBuckeye]

Our neighbors need advice. We live in Monarch Grove and have a wonderful group of people living on our block of Gonzalez Lane. One of our neighbors is an issue. They watch people walking their dogs and remotely turn on their sprinkler system whenever people walk by. We have an elderly lady with dementia who regularly gets doused as she walks her small dog. Everyone is very respectful and picks up any dog poop. Our scared neighbors automatically move to the other side of the street. We feel stalked and sad.

Unfortunately, that happens everywhere, there’s always a bad apple in ever subdivision! Even here where we live.

[brianherlihy]

i just got a dog and now i can walk my dog down the street and have him poop and du all he can on the guy how walkes his dog up her:coolsmiley::coolsmiley::coolsmiley:

[Road-Runner]

Absolutely correct. Our dog is NEVER allowed to use someone else's yard. He uses only our back yard and we pick it up. Period. If we walk around Silver Lake, it gets picked up. Not everyone is courteous about that either and it's a shame. Walk your dog around your own yard, then take it for a friendly stroll to meet the neighbors.

So this is exactly what we have always done and probably 95 times out of 100 it works like a charm, but dogs will be dogs and every so often they'll decide to go after they've left our yard during a walk around the neighborhood. We ALWAYS bring bags and pick up after them. It's a shame some people can't understand that these are animals that along with their owners need regular exercise. We do our best but a dog can start going before an owner has a chance to stop them and I've learned the hard way, once things start coming out they keep coming out even as you drag them into the road. I appreciate a perfect lawn as much as anyone, but just a tiny bit of 'live and let live' would go a long way in these situations. It's a shame there aren't designated 'Dog Friendly' or for that matter just 'Friendly' neighborhoods for people like us who'll 'within reason' go along to get along with our neighbors.

[Loriana]

Notice how people are made out to be villains based on someone else’s weaknesses. The lady with dementia…with a small dog…targeted by a bad neighbor…lah dee dah. Yep, welcome to cancel culture. This person who posted should be a talking head for MSM.

Let’s put another spin on this one, just for fun. Generous neighbor spends his time and pays higher water bills so his sprinklers can be felt by his neighbors while they daily walking their dogs in the hot afternoon sun.

[mike234]

you know, it's water. he could put something a lot more harmful on HIS LAWN if you don't understand.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

The family dog in Boston is 15 years old and just like most city dogs he goes on the concrete , he also still walks long distances although slower in the hot summer and cold winter never a problem with his paws just like all the other dogs we know and he’s never had a sweater on in winter,he acclimates him self just like people here should do instead of whining about how hot it is , I’m still walking ,”biking and some running at 82 in the afternoon EVERY DAYand shutting the AC off when I sleep and very rarely putting heat on and never when going to bed makes living here much more pleasant and the environment easier to handle

[Dotneko]

i just got a dog and now i can walk my dog down the street and have him poop and du all he can on the guy how walkes his dog up her:coolsmiley::coolsmiley::coolsmiley:

Sorry, but i do not understand what your writing.

[Velvet]

Sorry, but i do not understand what your writing.

What’s the matter? You have trouble understanding nonsense, or something?

[HORNET]

People should keep their animals out of other peoples yards

[Dotneko]

What’s the matter? You have trouble understanding nonsense, or something?

Wondering if he had a stroke or something and needs an emt.

[Velvet]

Oh, you are quite kind. Very nice.

[MaryShields]

Unfortunately, that happens everywhere, there’s always a bad apple in ever subdivision! Even here where we live.

Wow! Didn’t realize my post would spark such passion.
My error for stating the woman has dementia. She is just old, like ALL of us, and a bit frail. Interesting people picked up on that instead of the main topic. This neighbor shoots his sprinklers on every dog walker that strolls by his house. Stalked was another term that was misinterpreted. I guess when someone sits in their garage and watches for dog walkers or people parking too close to his lawn, yes that’s really weird. Get a life and be a neighbor. We live in a great hood:)

[Villageswimmer]

Wow! Didn’t realize my post would spark such passion.
My error for stating the woman has dementia. She is just old, like ALL of us, and a bit frail. Interesting people picked up on that instead of the main topic. This neighbor shoots his sprinklers on every dog walker that strolls by his house. Stalked was another term that was misinterpreted. I guess when someone sits in their garage and watches for dog walkers or people parking too close to his lawn, yes that’s really weird. Get a life and be a neighbor. We live in a great hood:)


Yeah, sounds like a great hood. Again, why don’t people just walk on the opposite side of the street if “shooting his sprinklers on every dog walker” actually occurs? One would think if it happens constantly, walkers would have learned how to avoid this by now. And why add the dementia embellishment? Too much drama on Gonzalez.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

I would be interested in why you waited this long to tell us that the woman did not have dementia, when much of the posting and sympathy was because of this . maybe alll the neighbors aren’t feeling stalked or sad anymore either

[MaryShields]

I would be interested in why you waited this long to tell us that the woman did not have dementia, when much of the posting and sympathy was because of this . maybe alll the neighbors aren’t feeling stalked or sad anymore either

I guess they missed the point. We love our hood. Just have a bad apple. Thanks for all your feedback. I don’t think I will venture into posting again. Thought it would be more kind and helpful.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Most of the sympathy was because of the spraying of a woman with dementia and as far as elderly I’m elderly I guess 82 and I’ve never let a dog go on someone’s lawn and many people were kind to you and very sympathetic . Go Dodgers

[Taltarzac725]

I guess they missed the point. We love our hood. Just have a bad apple. Thanks for all your feedback. I don’t think I will venture into posting again. Thought it would be more kind and helpful.

Sorry about the bad feedback. I hope you can resolve this problem of the crappy neighbors.

[angelscelebrate]

Not to get into an argument but if you look at your copy of the property plat, you will see that your actual property ends way short of the road. If you see a marker nail/peg in your drive (villa owners) that is where your property ends. On the other hand, you are responsible for maintaining the property all the way to the road.

In response to the poster that stated that you are not supposed to water your lawn after 7am, I believe that is just a suggestion, NOT a rule. Not sure, so I may be corrected. They also suggest watering days of the week, but no one adheres to it. I am not sure that any of that can be enforced, but again I may be corrected.

Easements for utilities is another issue. You can have an easement ON your property or through your property. The issue in this case is whether or not you have any authority to or requirement for maintenance on your front area near the road. I don't know about your neighborhood, but in mine we have sprinkler heads right at the edge of the street.
Agree! Glad to see someone recognizes plotted surveyed lot lines as determing ownership. So many trolls commenting here... hardly worth the bother.

[THUNDERCHIEF]

Walk their dogs in their own yard

[Aacosner]

i just went out side and the pooped and and the guy just walked away. i picked it up the put it in road and the guy next door told me to pick it up and i told him to pick it up and to lump it

Folks, how about a grammar and spelling check before hitting the "submit reply" button?

[golfing eagles]

Folks, how about a grammar and spelling check before hitting the "submit reply" button?

Apparently learned "common core" English, or possibly ESL

[spd2918]

I find it a little hard to believe there is a guy in his garage, standing next to his sprinkle controls, watching for dog walkers.

[golfing eagles]

I find it a little hard to believe there is a guy in his garage, standing next to his sprinkle controls, watching for dog walkers.

Everybody needs a hobby:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Waltdisney4life]

Unless you’re going to pay for her landscaping keep your animals off of her lawn!!

[donfey]

Our neighbors need advice. We live in Monarch Grove and have a wonderful group of people living on our block of Gonzalez Lane. One of our neighbors is an issue. They watch people walking their dogs and remotely turn on their sprinkler system whenever people walk by. We have an elderly lady with dementia who regularly gets doused as she walks her small dog. Everyone is very respectful and picks up any dog poop. Our scared neighbors automatically move to the other side of the street. We feel stalked and sad.

There is no shortage of jerks, even in The Villages, although there are fewer of them here.

[agjaret@aol.com]

Homes have a 13 foot easement. Get over yourselves.

[Taltarzac725]

Dog Parks (https://www.districtgov.org/departments/Recreation/dogparks.aspx)

Dudley Canine Park and Rupert Canine Park are not far from Gonzalaz Lane even if their hours are limited when you have a pooch that needs to go out early, middle and at the end of the day. And sometimes a lot more than that.

[golfing eagles]

Homes have a 13 foot easement. Get over yourselves.

1) Where does it state that, in writing?
2) Easement for whom and what purpose???

[Vermilion Villager]

Our neighbors need advice. We live in Monarch Grove and have a wonderful group of people living on our block of Gonzalez Lane. One of our neighbors is an issue. They watch people walking their dogs and remotely turn on their sprinkler system whenever people walk by. We have an elderly lady with dementia who regularly gets doused as she walks her small dog. Everyone is very respectful and picks up any dog poop. Our scared neighbors automatically move to the other side of the street. We feel stalked and sad.
WOW!!! that's a lot to unpack here. Time to drill down on this. Background: According to Sumter County Gonzalez Ln is a dead end street and there are only 11 homes...10 plus Mary's. All but 3 homes have limited street frontage....Here's what was posted by Mary.

1. Mary Shields...the poster claims her "neighbors need advice...(Mary does not need advice)
2. Then in the next sentence, Mary claims "One of our neighbors is an issue". (it is vague if the offending party even lives on Gonzalez)
3. Then in the next sentence, Mary testifies these problem neighbors (who the neighbor needs advice about...not her) have some sort of remote control device, and someone has actually observed them activating this remote device triggering water sprinklers....but she is not specific on who actually observed it.
4. Then in the next sentence Mary injects there is a vulnerable adult who walks her dog. We only know this person walks by the offending neighbor, but it is unclear where this is.
5. Then Mary states an unknown group of neighbors are now fearful of these offenders to the point they move to the other side of the street. She does not specify if these are additional neighbors, or the ones who need help prompting the OP, or if this even happens on Gonzalez.
6. Finally Mary makes the claim the offending neighbor is now stalking other people....from the privacy of their own home.

NOPE!!!! way to inconsistent. Kind of like "many people are saying" ....I call B.S. on the whole post:blahblahblah:

[Vermilion Villager]

and for you perfectionists who insist on correcting someone else's spelling and grammar. you are commonly referred to as "Karens"
if doing that is all you have, then stay out of the issue.

Ahh.....Definition of a "Karen"
WHAT DOES KAREN MEAN?

Karen is a pejorative slang term for an obnoxious, angry, entitled, and often racist middle-aged white woman who uses her privilege to get her way or police other people’s behaviors.

As featured in memes, Karen is generally stereotyped as having a blonde bob haircut, asking to speak to retail and restaurant managers to voice complaints or make demands, and being an anti-vaxx , Generation X soccer mom.

In 2020, Karen spread as a label used to call out white women who were captured in viral videos engaging in what are widely seen as racist acts.

:welcome:

[Aqtlow]

When I walk my dogs I try to teach them to get out of the street when a car or golf cart or even a biker, so we step up just outside of the curb and wait till they pass. This is the first time I gave heard of remote control sprinklers or motion sprinklers and if it’s the sole purpose of trying to keep people and dogs off “ your grass” shame on you. REALLY you don’t have anything else to do. Wtf. First of all that’s NOT YOUR Property . Find your property markers there about 30 ft. From the center of the road. I would do more investigating as to when it comes on and call the town to see if it’s allowed on THEIR property.

[NoMoSno]

When I walk my dogs I try to teach them to get out of the street when a car or golf cart or even a biker, so we step up just outside of the curb and wait till they pass. This is the first time I gave heard of remote control sprinklers or motion sprinklers and if it’s the sole purpose of trying to keep people and dogs off “ your grass” shame on you. REALLY you don’t have anything else to do. Wtf. First of all that’s NOT YOUR Property . Find your property markers there about 30 ft. From the center of the road. I would do more investigating as to when it comes on and call the town to see if it’s allowed on THEIR property.
It is your property.:
Property Owners' Rights and Utility Easements | legalzoom.com (https://info.legalzoom.com/article/property-owners-rights-and-utility-easements)

"Property owners have rights regarding their utility easements. The property owner owns the land with the easement and must pay taxes on the easement area. Usually, the utility companies don't pay anything for the use of the easement.

The utility company has the right to use the land to maintain and repair their lines, pipes, or equipment. Property owners, however, can take a utility company to court if a company abuses the easement."

[joelfmi]

Our neighbors need advice. We live in Monarch Grove and have a wonderful group of people living on our block of Gonzalez Lane. One of our neighbors is an issue. They watch people walking their dogs and remotely turn on their sprinkler system whenever people walk by. We have an elderly lady with dementia who regularly gets doused as she walks her small dog. Everyone is very respectful and picks up any dog poop. Our scared neighbors automatically move to the other side of the street. We feel stalked and sad.If the villiages don't do anything or Picket her home or just move to anther 55 plus community

[thelegges]

WOW!!! that's a lot to unpack here. Time to drill down on this. Background: According to Sumter County Gonzalez Ln is a dead end street and there are only 11 homes...10 plus Mary's. All but 3 homes have limited street frontage....Here's what was posted by Mary.

1. Mary Shields...the poster claims her "neighbors need advice...(Mary does not need advice)
2. Then in the next sentence, Mary claims "One of our neighbors is an issue". (it is vague if the offending party even lives on Gonzalez)
3. Then in the next sentence, Mary testifies these problem neighbors (who the neighbor needs advice about...not her) have some sort of remote control device, and someone has actually observed them activating this remote device triggering water sprinklers....but she is not specific on who actually observed it.
4. Then in the next sentence Mary injects there is a vulnerable adult who walks her dog. We only know this person walks by the offending neighbor, but it is unclear where this is.
5. Then Mary states an unknown group of neighbors are now fearful of these offenders to the point they move to the other side of the street. She does not specify if these are additional neighbors, or the ones who need help prompting the OP, or if this even happens on Gonzalez.
6. Finally Mary makes the claim the offending neighbor is now stalking other people....from the privacy of their own home.

NOPE!!!! way to inconsistent. Kind of like "many people are saying" ....I call B.S. on the whole post:blahblahblah:

Well written post. Bigger problem is OP should be concerned about is a diagnosed dementia person is allowed out on their own. We have 3 diagnosed dementia neighbors, if one is out alone, anyone who sees them contacts their spouse, or caregiver immediately, and try’s to keep them safe until help arrives.

As far as the sprinkler issue in the road, on my walk this morning 13 homes with their sprinklers were watering parts of the road. Anyone who has total control of their sprinkler water must be a genius, or never run the system

[HORNET]

It’s not your property, stay off

[HORNET]

Easements only mean that you can’t put anything permanent at that distance. Property owner owns and pays taxes to the street or sidewalk and has to maintain that area. Call Sumter or Lake County Police and find out about trespassing laws.

[MaryShields]

There is no shortage of jerks, even in The Villages, although there are fewer of them here.

Heartfelt thanks!

[MaryShields]

Wow, glad (hope) I don’t live on your street!

It will be interesting to see ( after all this dialogue) if the troublesome neighbor’s behavior continues.

[fdpaq0580]

And they'll still make a deposit along the way... Just make sure you pick it up...

The reality is, you cannot time when a dog does what a dog does...

One problem "non-dog owners" are missing is that when the sun beats down on the street, the temp can cause serious burns to a dog's feet. Try walking barefoot just off your driveway if you don''t believe me. Walking along the edge of the grass is the only safe place for them.

And I agree, those who don't clean up after their dogs are jerks.

Street too hot? No sidewalk? Dog park not conveniently located next door? Let's take fluffy for a walk through the neighborhood dog park and toilet, aka neighbor's yards[U] without ever ASKING for permission to do so. Heaven forbid, the neighbor had the nerve to show their displeasure. How rude of them to not realize dog owners are "entitled" to use other folks homes and property for their own purposes.

Is my sarcasm too subtle? If you don't own that property then you keep off of it unless you are invited. Don't trespass. If your parents were any good then they taunt you that as a child.

[MaryShields]

When I was a kid the neighborhood played ball on our street. We had a neighbor who hid in her bushes and God forbid a ball went into her yard she would pounce out with it in her hands and announced that she wasn’t giving it back. We learned to avoid her as much as possible, but she was a sad, mean-spirited woman and we felt sorry for her. All I can say about someone who intentionally would turn on their sprinklers on a woman with dementi is that it is sad. They need to get a hobby and remember that this is supposed to be the “friendliest” community. As a dog owner, I make sure my dog does not go onto anyone’s lawn. It is a matter of respect. I have a neighbor who allows her dog to poop on my front yard. She is an elderly lady who is sweet. I don’t stay up at night dwelling on it and so I let it go. Life is short.

Thanks so much ! You are right on💕

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

If you have been reading the post after every body weighed in on how badly the woman with dementia had been treated we were informed that she doesn’t have dementia she is just older Like Me 82 but we haven’t gotten an answer yet on whether the neighbors are still feeling stalked and are sad and this is my last post on this I couldn’t resist it one more time lol

[MaryShields]

It will be interesting to see ( after all this dialogue) if the troublesome neighbor’s behavior continues.

Wow, maybe time to change your ways Lawrence (

[brianherlihy]

just stay off my grass and have your dog poop on your grass not happy her . go on the cart path or walking path or in town:bigbow::bigbow:

[Aqtlow]

No you don’t own ANY property out side your survey points , which are typically 30’ from the central of the road!!

[NoMoSno]

No you don’t own ANY property out side your survey points , which are typically 30’ from the central of the road!!
Yes you do.
Property Owners' Rights and Utility Easements | legalzoom.com (https://info.legalzoom.com/article/property-owners-rights-and-utility-easements)

[tvbound]

237 (now 238) posts to get across a simple concept, that you shouldn't allow your dog to poop on other people's private property?

[Dotneko]

i just got a dog and now i can walk my dog down the street and have him poop and du all he can on the guy how walkes his dog up her:coolsmiley::coolsmiley::coolsmiley:

Hey - Mike234 - could you please decipher this post? I seem to have lost my super secret decoder/translator ring.

[Dana1963]

Wow, maybe time to change your ways Lawrence (
It’s time for a Dr Phil intervention or getting Jerry Springer involved.
Let’s set up a stage at one of the Squares this might be hilarious

[brianherlihy]

just keep your dog at home to du poop:coolsmiley::MOJE_whot:

[fdpaq0580]

Folks, how about a grammar and spelling check before hitting the "submit reply" button?

I do when I post, but often things change after hitting the submit button. I have no idea why or how it happens, but it does. I use an LG tablet but that should make no difference.

[fdpaq0580]

237 (now 238) posts to get across a simple concept, that you shouldn't allow your dog to poop on other people's private property?

Shouldn't be on the grass at all! Not on the grass, can't pee or poop on it! Owner, control your dog!

[Bunny1]

Thank you, thank you to everyone who posted it's wrong to let your dog pee and poop on neighbors lawns!
Maybe dog owners who do - will get the message - we dont want your dog's mess on our lawn!!

[dewilson58]

Yes you do.
Property Owners' Rights and Utility Easements | legalzoom.com (https://info.legalzoom.com/article/property-owners-rights-and-utility-easements)

Easement vs. property survey points.

[brianherlihy]

use dog repellent and it will keep them off i du

[dewilson58]

237 (now 238) posts to get across a simple concept, that you shouldn't allow your dog to poop on other people's private property?

"people's private property" does not go to the street (& I'm not talking easement)

people don't know where the property pins are located............it may not be where your sprinkler heads are located...........might be surprised

[dewilson58]

Homes have a 13 foot easement.

False.

[eyc234]

If you are walking your dog for exercise let them walk in the road, on a side walk or at the dog park. If you are taking your dog to pee and defecate let the do it in your own yard. Walk them around your yard until they do their business and you can decide if you want to clean it up or not. Just keep them off of other peoples property. Can I come and pee in your pool because I do not want to dirty mine? It will go through the filter and chlorine will clean it, no problem, right!!

[brianherlihy]

now i have my new dog i will take down the street to the home of the guy hows dog poop on my lawn and let him poop on his lawn:a040::a040::a040::a040:

[Velvet]

Makes me think, we should have signs, not “no dogs please” but “your dog is welcome to toilet on my lawn” (as long as you are not renting because then it is not your lawn to give permission).

[dewilson58]

now i have my new dog i will take down the street to the home of the guy hows dog poop on my lawn and let him poop on his lawn:a040::a040::a040::a040:

Recipoopcity.

[asianthree]

It's not the dogs that are causing brown spots...

It -may- happen in an area that gets constant use by pets, but not the occasional passerby...

Our cameras pick up the Occasional passerby walking their dog.

Average Daily use of owners using our lawn for the occasional daily walk is 20. High season its worse.

Yep some don’t realize, they bought the most expensive dog park to live on. Good thing we lost our dog before we moved down she would have been beside herself, with so many using her space.

[wisbad1]

Our neighbors need advice. We live in Monarch Grove and have a wonderful group of people living on our block of Gonzalez Lane. One of our neighbors is an issue. They watch people walking their dogs and remotely turn on their sprinkler system whenever people walk by. We have an elderly lady with dementia who regularly gets doused as she walks her small dog. Everyone is very respectful and picks up any dog poop. Our scared neighbors automatically move to the other side of the street. We feel stalked and sad.
I don’t like dogs using my yard for a toilet, nothing against them. Go use the dog park , that’s why they have them.

[Joe V.]

I don’t like dogs using my yard for a toilet, nothing against them. Go use the dog park , that’s why they have them.

Dog parks are not built as dog toilets. They are built for dogs' exercise and socialization and all have pick up bags for free and cans for waste disposal. Responsible owners pick up after their dogs, even in the dog parks.

[Pairadocs]

Depends on what they are doing. If they wait for the woman to walk the dog along their street in front of their house and then turn on the water from their system's controls probably in their garage and know that this woman has dementia then that is a different matter.

If it is automated to come on when there is any motion that might be a different matter. Then they are not targeting someone they should know has dementia.

Exactly ! We do seem, over the years, to get more and more "nasty" types, but, also to be fair, in our neighborhood, we have a woman who lives 3 blocks away, every single day the woman brings her two dogs to our lawn to do their business, like clock work. It is hard for us, and the other neighbor whose yard she prefers, to keep up with the yellow ammonia spots. If we and our immediate neighbors had motion detection ones, that might finally stop her and her dogs, and she might (??) decide to walk her dogs around her own house/lawn until until they "deposit" and THEN take them on a walk elsewhere ! To deliberately do such things IF one knows the individual walking the dog(s) is mentally challenged... quite another story, what goes around might come around one day to them ! In this case I do think she knows exactly what she is going, we've watched her stop dead, let out a retractable leash, and encourage the dog onto the same lawn every day while she stands in the street, looking around nonchalantly, "pretending" not to notice her dogs are on someone else's property. It takes all kinds to make a village... LOL.. and we have a few who are so "tone deaf"... you have to shrug and ignore as much as possible. Humans ???? Be kind, and for heaven's sake, be respectful ! If a person is obviously impaired, then someone must try to help. She really should not be walking alone, dog or not ? ? Maybe ?

[fdpaq0580]

Dog parks are not built as dog toilets. They are built for dogs' exercise and socialization and all have pick up bags for free and cans for waste disposal. Responsible owners pick up after their dogs, even in the dog parks.

That may be, but it is expected that dogs will do their business there because of all the incentives from other dog scents. Also, if it was not expected there would not be bags and bins for waste disposal.
Neighbors yards, with few if any exceptions, don't generally supply the bags and bins because their homes were not designed to be used as public toilets by the neighborhood dogs.

[Joe V.]

That may be, but it is expected that dogs will do their business there because of all the incentives from other dog scents. Also, if it was not expected there would not be bags and bins for waste disposal.
Neighbors yards, with few if any exceptions, don't generally supply the bags and bins because their homes were not designed to be used as public toilets by the neighborhood dogs.

Again, dog parks were not built as toilets.

[fdpaq0580]

Again, dog parks were not built as toilets.

I agree, in part, but it is expected and provided for. The neighbor's home also was not built as a toilet and is not or should not be expected to be used as a toilet by neighborhood dogs.

[MDLNB]

Again, dog parks were not built as toilets.


Yes they are..........:doggie: