Rogue Cats at Havana CC Patio

[MrMark]

After hearing several reports of Rogue Cats roaming the Patio at Havana CC, I finally saw it for myself today. Not only did I see several Rogue Cats roaming freely, I also observed Village Residents (assumed) feeding them. Does anyone share my feelings that these Rogue Cats should be trapped and destroyed rather than being allowed to roam freely at a local eatery?

[OpusX1]

Sort answer is NO.

[nONIE]

I do share your feeling of trapping these cats but not destroying them. It would be great if we could have them spayed and neutered and released. Im sure there are many that disagree with this, just my personal feeling.

[graciegirl]

I do share your feeling of trapping these cats but not destroying them. It would be great if we could have them spayed and neutered and released. Im sure there are many that disagree with this, just my personal feeling.

Nonie,

Is there a group here in TV who does humane trapping and helps to find homes for them after they are spayed/neutered??

[KathieI]

I agree that the cats should be trapped and fixed and new homes should be found for them. They are just adorable.
Actually, the first litter of 12 born around Christmas time were trapped by Patrick (karaoke king) but he couldn't get the mother, she was very tricky. He had them all fixed and they are living on his ranch. The second litter was recently born and we'll work on trapping ALL of them, hopefully this time and perhaps stop the constant proliferation of these little cuties. I'm curious to hear why our poster below feels they should be destroyed??? :doh:

[2newyorkers]

We live in Tall Trees and also had a problem with stray cats. This year there only appears to be 1 left and my neighbor continues to feed the cat so I am sure it will not go away. I do not know why the other cats all disappeared. In the Daily Sun and on the radio they are always requesting homeowners to adopt a pet. Perhaps the group that run the animal rescue also removed all the strays from Tall Trees.

[skip0358]

The cats only hang out at Havana because so many people feed them during the day. I agree with trapping them but they shouldn't be destroyed. Maybe like the signs by the light house. Please don't feed the animalsT

[K9-Lovers]

After hearing several reports of Rogue Cats roaming the Patio at Havana CC, I finally saw it for myself today. Not only did I see several Rogue Cats roaming freely, I also observed Village Residents (assumed) feeding them. Does anyone share my feelings that these Rogue Cats should be trapped and destroyed rather than being allowed to roam freely at a local eatery?

Tsk, tsk, tsk.

There are way too many animal lovers in The Villages, and TOTV, to accept the idea of killing cats simply because they presently have no home.

Do not call animal control and do not place cats in a shelter, unless it is a "no kill" facility.

Best Solution: Identify a group or individual to humanely trap, spay or neuter, and work to adopt these cats into homes.

[jblum8156]

I wonder where you came up with the appellation "Rogue Cats"? They are feral cats and it's not their fault, poor things. Feral cats often hang out around restaurants, especially where there's outdoor dining. Can you blame them for hoping to get fed?

[Bogie Shooter]

Feral cats are a national problem not just in Florida and not just Havana in TV. Just Google feral cats to learn more. One of the most mentioned things is to not feed them, unless you want them around your property.

[chuckinca]

Feral cats are rarely turned into pets. They will stick close to one house if fed.





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[Vichyssoise]

They should be removed. Not everyone here in the Villages are animal lovers. Tell the people feeding them to take them home.

[ssmith]

I agree with Chuckinca...feral cats have to be held and tamed while they are very young...or they won't be good pets...Mamma teaches them to be mean so they won't be killed...to survive on the streets. Same with barn cats and they can fight up a storm if you try to catch em. I remember many a scratch I received from barn cats chasing them while I was a young girl. Don't want them to be destroyed though.

[pauld315]

They are present in a lot of areas of the country. In Hawaii, they even sell posters with the Island Cats. In Myrtle Beach you will find them near any beachfront restaurant. They have qualities that the restaurant owners like also. They are great predators and will keep any problem with rodents or biugs down to a minimum. They also will usually not bother people unless you offer to give them food. They are just trying to survive.

[joannej]

I agree that the cats should be trapped and fixed and new homes should be found for them. They are just adorable.
Actually, the first litter of 12 born around Christmas time were trapped by Patrick (karaoke king) but he couldn't get the mother, she was very tricky. He had them all fixed and they are living on his ranch. The second litter was recently born and we'll work on trapping ALL of them, hopefully this time and perhaps stop the constant proliferation of these little cuties. I'm curious to hear why our poster below feels they should be destroyed??? :doh:
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Bless Your Heart!! If you never sat on the outside patio at Havana, you would never know they were there! I saw them when they were kittens, and they are so cute! Many feral cats take care of the rats/mice hanging out at restaurants and other places. In our travels, we went to an old fort where there was once was a problem w/rats, etc. around the fort, and the caretaker found the only thing that took care of the problem were the cats, after trying chemicals, etc. I don't know why people feel they should be destroyed. Many times after neutering them, they are re-released back to the area they came from or taken to areas where they can go on living their lives outside in a feline colony.

[kaydee]

The ferral cats that are being fed at restuarants and neighborhoods are carriers of disease. I am all for the lovers of them getting them fixed and slowing down the multiples of them but please stop feeding them. They are scavengers and get plenty to eat out in the wilds which is what they should be accustomed to. Again, they are carriers of disease.

[chachacha]

i saw the title of this post and i thought a new music group called the Rogue Cats were playing out on the patio! that is why i read all these posts and realize i am really probably the only nutty woman in the villages who thought this! oh, well, have to laugh at myself and let everyone else in on the joke.

[K9-Lovers]

Reading some of the comments at first led me to believe the cats were tame. However, if they are truly feral, they will never be able to become someone's pet.

Killing the cats will not irradicate the problem. Once the current cats are removed, other cats will find the food and shelter behind the restaurant and take their place.

When the cats are humanely trapped and taken to the vet for their spay/neuter, they must receive their rabies and other innoculations before being released into their home territory. The vet will "tip" the left ear, which is a sign to all animal control staff, vets, and the rest of the world that the cats have been sterilized. (tipping = removing 1/4 of the left ear). Every year thereafter, it is best to retrap them so they can receive their shots. This will eliminate any fear of disease.

The average lifespan of a feral cat is 2 years. With a caretaker, their lifespan is 10 years. If a group/individual steps forward to TNR (trap,neuter,release) and care for this feral colony, that could include providing proper cat food. But until someone steps up to care for this little colony, it is a good thing they are being fed. Feral cats would not beg from humans unless they are hungry. Feral cats avoid humans if possible.

After doing a quick Google search, I can't find a rescue group near TV that works with feral cats. I will volunteer to contact the area shelters, humane societies, etc. next week to see if they are aware of any colony caretakers nearby.

This week I can't spare a minute (working to beat tax deadline of Oct. 15). For those who volunteer at animal agencies, why not ask if anyone knows about a feral cat group?

[Bonny]

There is a cute cat at Codys that we have been feeding. If I can ever get close enough, I will catch him/her & do what we can to get a home. The cat is black with white on the chest & white paws so we call it Boots. Kitty goes under the Codys truck.

[jannd228]

i saw the title of this post and i thought a new music group called the Rogue Cats were playing out on the patio! that is why i read all these posts and realize i am really probably the only nutty woman in the villages who thought this! oh, well, have to laugh at myself and let everyone else in on the joke.

I thought so too

[tpop1]

i saw the title of this post and i thought a new music group called the Rogue Cats were playing out on the patio! that is why i read all these posts and realize i am really probably the only nutty woman in the villages who thought this! oh, well, have to laugh at myself and let everyone else in on the joke.

With all the posts about the music at Havana, I also first thought of a musical group, even thought they might be a "Stray Cats" cover band..Duh!

As for these stray cats, IMHO I do not want to be eating around potential disease bearing animals.
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[Taltarzac]

http://www.humanesociety.org/issues/feral_cats/

[Talk Host]

There is a cute cat at Codys that we have been feeding. If I can ever get close enough, I will catch him/her & do what we can to get a home. The cat is black with white on the chest & white paws so we call it Boots. Kitty goes under the Codys truck.

Bonny,

Although that's a noble thought, I believe it would be a mistake to even try to catch this cat. It's wild and will not take kindly to your paws.

JLK

[Boomer]

i saw the title of this post and i thought a new music group called the Rogue Cats were playing out on the patio! that is why i read all these posts and realize i am really probably the only nutty woman in the villages who thought this! oh, well, have to laugh at myself and let everyone else in on the joke.

Oh, chachacha, please do not feel like the Lone Ranger. I thought the exact same thing when I read the title of this thread.

In fact, my mind immediately took a little sideways trip (as it often does) and I thought about the band Stray Cats and remembered how much I liked their sound......and then......it gets worse.....I had already started hoping that this band Rogue Cats would be there at Havana when I get to TV and I had put in place a mental plan to be sure to go to see them. Geez. All that from a thread title. (sigh)

But, alas, all I can do now is download a little Stray Cats to the iPod. Remember those guys? What a nice, easy, laid-back sound. Remember "Stray Cat Strut"?

http://www.last.fm/music/Stray+Cats/_/Stray+Cat+Strut

Boomer

[BobKat1]

Oh, chachacha, please do not feel like the Lone Ranger. I thought the exact same thing when I read the title of this thread.

In fact, my mind immediately took a little sideways trip (as it often does) and I thought about the band Stray Cats and remembered how much I liked their sound......and then......it gets worse.....I had already started hoping that this band Rogue Cats would be there at Havana when I get to TV and I had put in place a mental plan to be sure to go to see them. Geez. All that from a thread title. (sigh)

But, alas, all I can do now is download a little Stray Cats to the iPod. Remember those guys? What a nice, easy, laid-back sound. Remember "Stray Cat Strut"?

http://www.last.fm/music/Stray+Cats/_/Stray+Cat+Strut

Boomer

I believe we have an old 33 1/3 Stray Cats LP album in the basement.:)

Feral Cats sounds like a heavy metal band...

[KayakerNC]

I believe we have an old 33 1/3 Stray Cats LP album in the basement.:)

Feral Cats sounds like a heavy metal band...

Basement storage in The Villages is kind of limited (non-existent). I see a yard-sale in your future.:beer3:

[Jerseygirl08]

I have a "feral" cat ???? in my house right now. Cute kitten, probably 4-5 mths. old. HOWEVER, he is too much for me to handle. Son brought him home from work, thought he was "so cute", and I was considering getting a kiitten anyway. Now, need to find a home for him - like immediately, or find out where to take him, like ASPCA or Humane Society where he won't be euthanized. Do not want him destroyed!!!

BTW, for those of you thinking: "Let your son take care of this", son moved to California last week and I hadn't totally decided to find a new home for TACO until after son left. Taco isn't getting enough attention with just me now. I work too many hours and can't give this kitten the attention he needs. Any advice, phone numbers, etc. will be much appreciated.

[Jerseygirl08]

Just wanted to post a thought: It could be somebody dumped him off (above cat Taco) as Patrick said he never saw him at the restaurant before that night ??? I'm thinking this because Taco is very affectionate, loves to be petted and stroked and actually talks to me in kitty meow-eze. Seems really tame other than when he rips through family room like he's on a horizontal trampoline. Poor little guy, just needs to expend energy and exercise. So maybe he is not feral at all! Nonetheless, I have to find a home for him darn soon so would appreciate any suggestions.

[jblum8156]

Definitely does not sound like a feral cat. Please call Barbara Irwin at Pet Rescue (352-753-2321) to find a home for this kitten. I've had some experience with feral cats and believe me you cannot pick them up without risking serious bites and scratches.

[chuckinca]

Taco doesn't sound like any feral kitten I have ever had - we have fed feral cats for many years after getting them fixed; our house was at the end of a road in the hills and people would dump animals there all the time.

Ferals will not let you touch them.


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[mac]

The feral kittens at Havana are quickly becoming cats and are a nuisance on the deck. I saw one jump on a chair and try to get into a guy's food!! Isn't there a woman who lives here in TV who will come and trap them so they can have shots and be spayed?

[Jerseygirl08]

Thanks for the phone number jblum. I certainly would rather find him a nice home rather than take him to the ASPCA. Thanks too Chuck for helping me see this little Taco guy is def. not feral. I didn't know there was that much of a difference. Possibly, someone just dropped him off at the restuarant that night. He jumped in the cart with my son and rode all the way home with him. Ate some taco with my son, hence, TACO. Thanks.

[K9-Lovers]

If these kittens are jumping on the table and trying to eat out of a plate, then they are adoptable and could be someone's pet.

Feral cats are completely wild, and would never come close to a human.

[actor]

night and saw a handful of full grown cats wondering around the patio. To make matters worse, the food and the service were fair at best. Won't be going back anytime soon.

[Frangyomory]

I was told an employee is feeding the cats. As long as that happens, you will hav these feral cats on the population increase.

[petco882]

After hearing several reports of Rogue Cats roaming the Patio at Havana CC, I finally saw it for myself today. Not only did I see several Rogue Cats roaming freely, I also observed Village Residents (assumed) feeding them. Does anyone share my feelings that these Rogue Cats should be trapped and destroyed rather than being allowed to roam freely at a local eatery?

no they should not be destroyed. they need to be trapped and then neutered and adopted out

[chuckinca]

They sound like a feral litter to me - They have to be trapped and turned over to the county or ASPCA. What happens then is up the those authorities.


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[K9-Lovers]

If the cats go to any kind of shelter/society/pound/whatever, they will end up euthanized unless it is a no-kill facility. The percentage of cats adopted from these facilities is very, very, low.