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macgolfnut
10-12-2010, 11:43 AM
Sorry if this has been brought up before, but I live in Hadley and today I was pulled over 3 blocks from my house for going 25 in a 15 mph zone. Are you kidding me? 15 mph? That seems ridiculous! I think my car idles at that speed. The officer was very nice and respectful and just gave me a warning. I wanted to question the speed limit but I didn't want to get him mad enough to change his mind and give me a ticket, so I kept silent. I agree that we don't want people speeding around there in a residential area, but 25mph would be a much more reasonable limit. 15mph is usually reserved for business driveways and parking lots. Does anyone agree with me and if so, do you know who I could contact to voice my concern? Thanks. Mac

BogeyBoy
10-12-2010, 12:45 PM
Sorry if this has been brought up before, but I live in Hadley and today I was pulled over 3 blocks from my house for going 25 in a 15 mph zone. Are you kidding me? 15 mph? That seems ridiculous! I think my car idles at that speed. The officer was very nice and respectful and just gave me a warning. I wanted to question the speed limit but I didn't want to get him mad enough to change his mind and give me a ticket, so I kept silent. I agree that we don't want people speeding around there in a residential area, but 25mph would be a much more reasonable limit. 15mph is usually reserved for business driveways and parking lots. Does anyone agree with me and if so, do you know who I could contact to voice my concern? Thanks. Mac

I don't agree.

There are a lot of residents that walk in the street (no sidewalks), slow moving carts with no separate cart lane, bike riders, people walking dogs, and some residents in motorized wheel chairs.

I've seen the sheriff on a corner near when I live and they pull you over for either speeding or not making a complete stop.

As mentioned in other threads, the patrols have recently increased, carts and cars are getting pulled over.

Halle
10-12-2010, 01:03 PM
I don't agree either.

I'm one of those residents, that walks,jogs,bikes, and walks my dogs in my neighborhood in TV while sharing the road with cars and golfcarts. I had posted just the other day that the posted speed limit in most neighborhoods south of 466 was 15mph. I believe 15mph is a reasonable speed on a road that is shared by so many. I would also like to see a posted speed limit on the multi-modal trails since they are also shared by users participating in various activities.

downeaster
10-12-2010, 02:11 PM
Sorry if this has been brought up before, but I live in Hadley and today I was pulled over 3 blocks from my house for going 25 in a 15 mph zone. Are you kidding me? 15 mph? That seems ridiculous! I think my car idles at that speed. The officer was very nice and respectful and just gave me a warning. I wanted to question the speed limit but I didn't want to get him mad enough to change his mind and give me a ticket, so I kept silent. I agree that we don't want people speeding around there in a residential area, but 25mph would be a much more reasonable limit. 15mph is usually reserved for business driveways and parking lots. Does anyone agree with me and if so, do you know who I could contact to voice my concern? Thanks. Mac

I am not familiar with your neighborhood but if I were to drive through it and saw the speed limit was 15 I would drive 15, not 25.
You can contact the county commissioners to voice your concern but I wouldn't recommend it. There is a reason the speed limit is 15 MPH so I would suggest living with it.

iandwk
10-12-2010, 02:22 PM
I must agree. I was just out in my golf cart on Madero, driving around 15-18 (not flat out), and I was passed by a Toyota Siena on a curve. He was easily doubling my speed. There were people working near the curb and barely on the road and they had to move out of his way. I am sure he would have been real apologetic if he had hit one of them. These roads are full of contractor's trucks parked on the curb, along golf carts and bikes a good part of the day, making them really unsafe to negotiate at more than the speed limit.

Where are you going that the few seconds you save by speeding can be that precious to you?

paulandjean
10-12-2010, 03:35 PM
I agree with you. 15 a little to slow. bicycle are going faster then that.25 seems like a nice safe speed. In The Villages they say driving golf carts to fast, and playing golf to slow.

l2ridehd
10-12-2010, 03:53 PM
I for one did not know the speed limit on the side streets was 15mph. Somewhere there is a disconnect between 15mph and golf carts that go 19.8mph. I never check the speed of the cart, but almost always drive it full speed except on curves and tunnels. So I agree with those that say 25 is to fast, but would suspect a reasonable speed limit for everyone might be better at 20mph. Seems if it is set at 15mph then golf carts should require speedometers. Which would require inspections to verify everyone had one. Which then require some sticker as proof it was done, which would require a registration to stop you from driving if it wasn't. And NONE of us want to go down that road. So set the speed limit to 20 mph. Then most carts can't speed. And those that do are breaking another law already in place anyway so they can be ticketed.

Barefoot
10-12-2010, 04:02 PM
I don't agree either.

I'm one of those residents, that walks,jogs,bikes, and walks my dogs in my neighborhood in TV while sharing the road with cars and golfcarts. I had posted just the other day that the posted speed limit in most neighborhoods south of 466 was 15mph. I believe 15mph is a reasonable speed on a road that is shared by so many. I would also like to see a posted speed limit on the multi-modal trails since they are also shared by users participating in various activities.

Halle, good post. I agree that 15 MPH is a reasonable speed on a shared road. There are many people who are physically challenged in our retirement community. Let's keep the pace of life slow and easy.

pooh
10-12-2010, 04:18 PM
What seems to be forgotten here is that a car or truck is much larger than either a bicycle or golf cart and weighs a heck of a lot more. Hitting someone with a car at even 10mph can cause severe injury or even the loss of a life.

The speed limit of 15 does seem slow if you've just had to slow down from driving at a faster speed on a road with higher limits, but there are no sidewalks, people have to walk in the streets, around service vehicles and might not see someone coming at them in a motor vehicle.

redwitch
10-12-2010, 05:00 PM
I know that the speed limit for patio villas and CYVs is 10 mph, at least those off of El Camino -- that speed is for ANY vehicle driving on those streets (includes, cars, golf carts and bikes). I assume if the posted speed limit is 15 mph, it applies to me whether I'm in a car or a cart or on the scooter. Like a car, just because your cart can go 19.8 mph, it doesn't mean that's the legal speed for you at all times.

I also agree with the majority -- 15 mph (and even 10 in some areas) is a reasonable speed given who all is on those streets. I'd feel heartsick if I ran over someone's pet (wouldn't feel quite as bad if it was a person, but I would feel some remorse). On the main streets (Havana, Rhapsody, Dunkirk in Hadley), I can see where someone would think 25 mph is reasonable even though I do try to take even those streets slower -- have to stop too often to pet a critter.

pooh
10-12-2010, 05:07 PM
Thanks for the reminder, Redwitch, that the speed limit applies to bikes and carts, also.

Reezie
10-12-2010, 05:10 PM
As I was sitting here reading the post on the speed limit in the Villages I looked out my den window and saw my neighbor's mother, who is in her 90's walking on the street with her walker. Tell me, do you really think it's safe to come down my street doing 25 miles an hour when the speed limit is 15 and this lady happens to be walking more in the middle of the street because there is a truck parked in her way. How would you feel if you hit her as she does not have the ability or agility to get out of your way. The original poster should feel very lucky to not have gotten a ticket. If I was that officer, I wouldn't have been so nice.
I wonder why everyone is in such a hurry. I think 15 miles an hour speed limit is very appropriate for a place that has people anywhere from 50 years old and up walking on streets without sidewalks.

Macgolfnut was doing approx. 66% over the speed limit. If he was just going 5 miles more an hour putting it at 30, it would be the same as on rt.75 where the speed limit is 70, he would have been doing 140 miles an hour. He was almost doubling the speed limit on a side street in Hadley..

Tom Hannon
10-12-2010, 06:08 PM
Don't want to hijack the thread but Triggerfish Run backs up to my house in Buttonwood. I assume that street is @30 MPH? I have no idea and having only spent one week in TV I am not familiar with the speed zones and what is normal.

Russ_Boston
10-12-2010, 06:17 PM
Thanks for the warning - I didn't know it was 15mph.

I can only assume a resonable study was done to determine a safe speed. I agree with L2, I never limit my cart when in the neighborhood so I'm probably going closer to 20mph in the cart.

Mudder
10-13-2010, 10:31 AM
Also way to many people are walking on the wrong side of the roads around here, it drives me crazy. You must walk facing traffic. The other day I saw a woman walking in one of the rotaries going the same way as the traffic, that's an accident waiting to happen. 15 MPH seems to be a good speed for the neighborhood streets.

Gerald
10-13-2010, 12:10 PM
I do not have any problem with the 15 mile speed limit. So now I would like to monitor my speed in the cart. It is hard to just guess how fast you are actually going. Does any one know if that can be done at a low cost?

Indydealmaker
10-13-2010, 01:39 PM
I do not have any problem with the 15 mile speed limit. So now I would like to monitor my speed in the cart. It is hard to just guess how fast you are actually going. Does any one know if that can be done at a low cost?

One inexpensive method of monitoring your speed on the golf cart is to purchase one of the now very cheap GPS units. They measure your speed very accurately.

downeaster
10-13-2010, 01:41 PM
Also way to many people are walking on the wrong side of the roads around here, it drives me crazy. You must walk facing traffic. The other day I saw a woman walking in one of the rotaries going the same way as the traffic, that's an accident waiting to happen. 15 MPH seems to be a good speed for the neighborhood streets.

I agree, Mudder. The law of common sense dictates walking, jogging, etc., facing the traffic. I passed a jogger the other evening, wearing dark clothing, and on the wrong side. I was very close when I saw his white legs. He was in the cart lane so no harm done. However, a cart would have a good chance of hitting him.

25 MPH can be way too fast on some of our streets. I live on a 25 MPH street (no cart lane) and would not be unhappy if it was changed to 15 MPH

Barefoot
10-13-2010, 09:40 PM
Also way to many people are walking on the wrong side of the roads around here, it drives me crazy. You must walk facing traffic. The other day I saw a woman walking in one of the rotaries going the same way as the traffic, that's an accident waiting to happen. 15 MPH seems to be a good speed for the neighborhood streets.

I agree that it's not good to be walking in the rotaries facing either way! But it is a retirement community with an aging population. I think that we have to remember that there are some Village residents who suffer from dementia. Not everyone is going to be obeying traffic rules. Many residents are elderly and get muddled easily. Well, I guess we all get muddled sometimes!

784caroline
10-14-2010, 10:10 AM
macgolfnut

Can you telll us the specific street the sherrif was on ?? There had to be complaints about speeding drivers from someone who lives on that street for I cant believe a sherrif was just sitting there as part of a normal speed trap. I mean he/she can go to Morse, Odell, or even StillWater where (I think) the speed is 25MPH and pick up all the speeders he/she and the courts can handle.

Caution should always be key word but I would find it difficult to observe when golf carts go zipping by at 19.5 or faster! ..I think it was handled very professionaly without making a big deal out of it! The Offcier was doing his/her job and got the message accross to local residents

memason
10-14-2010, 11:05 AM
Maybe an opposing view....but I read a lot about walkers, joggers, women with walkers, pets, bicyclists, segways, etc. on the streets. If seems to me that the streets were designed for automotive traffic and those are the ones who pay the motor fuel taxes and registration fees to maintain those same streets.

I'm not advocating that everyone drive 60mph in the neighborhoods, but 15mph is very slow. Correct me if I'm wrong, but school zones are designated 20mph. As other have noted, golf carts are passing you at that speed....and I would think even bicycles.


I'm just saying ...

2BNTV
10-14-2010, 11:30 AM
Mac:

I'm sorry that I don't agree. I think someone might have complained that people were exceeding the speed limit and the officer was there to give only warnings. You said, "The officer was very nice and respectful and just gave me a warning". My understanding is that a warning will not cost you anything unless one is caught in another moving violation within one year, (in the Northeast). Then the person will automatically get a ticket no matter what the circumstances.

I have gotten a couple of warnings in my 50 years of driving and managed to survive them despite my bruised feelings. Obviously, I was wrong in one situation and the other was bogus but that is a long story.

IMHO - I would not put an extra burden on myself trying to fight city hall. I found it better for me to be more careful as it doesn't stess me out.

Don H
10-14-2010, 02:31 PM
I'll bet you'll NEVER see a cop doing 15 or under on any side street. 25 mph is reasonable on residential streets.

spk7951
10-14-2010, 03:40 PM
macgolfnut

Can you telll us the specific street the sherrif was on ?? There had to be complaints about speeding drivers from someone who lives on that street for I cant believe a sherrif was just sitting there as part of a normal speed trap. I mean he/she can go to Morse, Odell, or even StillWater where (I think) the speed is 25MPH and pick up all the speeders he/she and the courts can handle.

Caution should always be key word but I would find it difficult to observe when golf carts go zipping by at 19.5 or faster! ..I think it was handled very professionaly without making a big deal out of it! The Offcier was doing his/her job and got the message accross to local residents


Barnsdale Run near Dunkirk Trail in Hadley. One unmarked car and the new golf cart that the sheriffs office has. Not sure if this is from a complaint but a neighbor did stop and talk to the officers while he was walking by and they said it is like you mentioned, a message to people to please obey the speed limit and that they will be in other areas of TV doing the same thing.

beartrack
10-14-2010, 03:55 PM
Funny thing about folks that complain about slow speed limits. Let's take Macgolfnut for instance. The speed limit is 15MPH and he was going 25MPH. If the speed limit was raised to 25MPH he would, more than likely be doing 35MPH and if the speed limit were raised to 35MPH he would be inching up to 50MPH and so on.

15 MPH suits me fine, and if everyone adhered to it we would all be a lot safer. IMHO

spk7951
10-14-2010, 04:03 PM
Mac:

IMHO - I would not put an extra burden on myself trying to fight city hall. I found it better for me to be more careful as it doesn't stess me out.


Quite true as our neighbor has found out. She was all stressed out over her ticket and went to court yesterday. She was offered two options pay the $130 fine, which will put points against her license or plead no contest, which will get her a $250 court fee and the ticket dismissed. Considering the impact of the points she choose the no contest option.

memason
10-14-2010, 10:03 PM
... 15 MPH suits me fine, and if everyone adhered to it we would all be a lot safer. IMHO

Why do some people think slower is always safer? :shrug:

chuckinca
10-14-2010, 10:57 PM
Just got off the phone with my brother in the Chicago burbs. He has a house in the historic section that he mainly rents out until he retires next year. He bought a used Par Car (2002) cart last month and he mentioned that it goes 38 MPH!!!!

Is that possible???


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Barefoot
10-14-2010, 11:03 PM
Why do some people think slower is always safer? :shrug:

Possibly because slower allows the driver more time to react to unexpected situations. :confused:

macgolfnut
10-14-2010, 11:17 PM
Well, I'm glad that I created some conversation about this subject, and I can see that I have very few people who agree with me. To answer an earlier question, it was a motorcycle cop on Rhapsody near Havana Trail. In conversations with friends around The Villages, it has become apparent to me that the police are jumping around the different neighborhoods and basically trying to get people to slow down and be careful on the side streets. I am a safe driver in most situations. I go 35mph on Morse and 45mph on 466 and 466A, even though I am often passed by other drivers. When I see a walker, jogger, dog walker, golf cart, biker, or any other slower moving person on the street, I slow down around them. However, I'm sticking to my guns that 15mph is REALLY slow. Next time you are out driving, go that speed for a few blocks. Bikes and carts will pass you. Every cart I have been in goes at least 19 or 20 mph, and almost nobody has a speedometer. So I guess they are all breaking the law. I'm not in any hurry. Heck, I'm retired! But it is extremely difficult and frustrating to go that slow. Sorry, that is just my opinion. Not to be rude, but I also think that those who have said that they think 15mph is fine and that I should have gotten a ticket should take a look in the mirror. Do they always go that speed or do they sometimes creep up around 25mph like I did. Have a good day everyone. :)

iandwk
10-15-2010, 07:25 AM
I am a safe driver in most situations. I go 35mph on Morse and 45mph on 466 and 466A, even though I am often passed by other drivers. When I see a walker, jogger, dog walker, golf cart, biker, or any other slower moving person on the street, I slow down around them. However, I'm sticking to my guns that 15mph is REALLY slow. Next time you are out driving, go that speed for a few blocks. Bikes and carts will pass you. Every cart I have been in goes at least 19 or 20 mph, and almost nobody has a speedometer. So I guess they are all breaking the law. I'm not in any hurry. Heck, I'm retired! But it is extremely difficult and frustrating to go that slow. Sorry, that is just my opinion. Not to be rude, but I also think that those who have said that they think 15mph is fine and that I should have gotten a ticket should take a look in the mirror. Do they always go that speed or do they sometimes creep up around 25mph like I did.

I have to agree on these points. I'm sure we are all guilty of speeding, and 15mph is slow, but if you hit someone and it is found you were doing 25 in a 15 zone, you don't have any legal excuse. I don't know what the penalty would be for injuring or even causing someone to lose their life in a situation like this, but it would be hard enough to live with if you were doing the speed limit and had no criminal charges filed against you. I can't imagine what it would be like to be speeding and hurt someone. I have found myself slowing down, even on my golf cart, while driving through neighborhoods because of this thread.

dgammon6
10-15-2010, 08:57 AM
Ditto, macgolfnut

NJblue
10-15-2010, 09:03 AM
When I see a walker, jogger, dog walker, golf cart, biker, or any other slower moving person on the street, I slow down around them.
I think this is the key - it is just common sense to slow down when there are pedestrians, trucks, golf carts, etc on the road. While I tend to drive quite slow in a residential area, I can tell from observation that either the TOTV population is way outside the norm for TV or they are not aware of how fast that they do drive in residential areas. Most people drive at least 25 MPH.

paulandjean
10-15-2010, 11:36 AM
agree with you one hundred percent.15 is just to slow.

Barefoot
10-15-2010, 12:06 PM
I can't imagine what it would be like to be speeding and hurt someone. I have found myself slowing down, even on my golf cart, while driving through neighborhoods because of this thread.

I applaud this thread if it has made some of us (and I include myself) more mindful of our speed in residential areas.

Russ_Boston
10-15-2010, 02:39 PM
I applaud this thread if it has made some of us (and I include myself) more mindful of our speed in residential areas.


I agree Bare.

BUT

15 mph is not reasonable. You can't just say it's safer because by that logic 10 mph would be even safer. And 5mph would be even safer than that. Most new cars on a flat surface idle at about 10 mph. Where do they come up with 15? I would rather see 25 strictly enforced than 15 loosely enforced where 95% drive faster.

But let's all be cognizant of our surroundings and watch out for neighborhood foot traffic.

zcaveman
10-15-2010, 07:29 PM
After reading this post I have been checking the entrances of the various villages and they all have speed limit signs - 10 mph for the villas and 15 mph for the others at the entrance.

What is wrong with obeying the speed limit? You have walkers, carts, cars and work trucks parked on the streets that make it hard to go around at a faster speed.

We are not in a hurry so hang up your cell phones and drive at the speed limit.

I would love to have a cop sit on my street and give tickets to the UPS and other delivery trucks - and the carts and cars that fly up and down the street.

Pturner
10-15-2010, 07:56 PM
macgolfnut

Can you telll us the specific street the sherrif was on ?? There had to be complaints about speeding drivers from someone who lives on that street for I cant believe a sherrif was just sitting there as part of a normal speed trap. I mean he/she can go to Morse, Odell, or even StillWater where (I think) the speed is 25MPH and pick up all the speeders he/she and the courts can handle.

Caution should always be key word but I would find it difficult to observe when golf carts go zipping by at 19.5 or faster! ..I think it was handled very professionaly without making a big deal out of it! The Offcier was doing his/her job and got the message accross to local residents

I agree that the officer handled it professionally. I think the 15 mph is reasonable on neighborhood streets, but like many others, I did not realize that was the case. It's good to know.

Bogie Shooter
10-15-2010, 08:57 PM
If someone is not aware of the speed limit.......people are not reading the speed limit signs....how can they be aware of walkers, people on bikes or slow moving carts???

Pturner
10-15-2010, 09:02 PM
If someone is not aware of the speed limit.......people are not reading the speed limit signs....how can they be aware of walkers, people on bikes or slow moving carts???

You are right that I should have been aware of the speed limit on neighborhood roads. Guess I was too busy looking out for walkers, people on bikes and slow moving carts.

Never did spot any slow moving carts.

Bogie Shooter
10-15-2010, 09:53 PM
You are right that I should have been aware of the speed limit on neighborhood roads. Guess I was too busy looking out for walkers, people on bikes and slow moving carts.

Never did spot any slow moving carts.
Or talking on the cell phone.

beartrack
10-15-2010, 11:00 PM
So many times on different posts I read people writing how beautiful The Villages is, how well kept everything is. Why would anyone want to whiz by and miss it all. The 15 MPH is on side streets where people live and walk and bike. How far would anyone have to drive on a side street? I often wonder to myself, what's the hurry, we are over 55, most of us are retired. relax, lean back and enjoy this fantastic place. Slow down and wave to people that you don't even know. Go fast if you want to but, I will leave early when I am going and drive the speed limit coming back. The only time I go over the speed limit is when we take a trip. For some reason when we are coming home to The Villages, I suffer from lead foot. Just returned from Fort Myers. Please don't tell anyone but, my GPS said that I was doing on average about 80 MPH, as soon as I turned into The Villages almost every car passed me. HMMM I wonder why?????

Skip
10-15-2010, 11:19 PM
State law says on any residential street, the speed limit is 30 mph. If a municipality (county, city or town) wants to lower it, it must be posted using the state's guidelines as to where and how often the signs should be.

If the street's not marked with a 15 mph sign, then you could ask the judge to through it out as not legal notification.

Skip

Indydealmaker
10-16-2010, 01:46 PM
For those that say 15 mph is way too slow in residential areas, take a look at this photo. Try to remember that there are 80,000 seniors with (admit it or not) diminished vision and reflexes. Even parking lots, where you are not supposed to be traveling any faster than idle speed, can be deadly.

[Picture removed because of copyright infringement. -- tony]

I was a very bad boy. Mea Culpa I should not have reprinted the photo of a serious auto accident involving three cars and two drivers in a PARKING LOT in The Villages. The photo and ensuing caption was published in The Villages Daily Sun today, October 16 on page A9. The point that I was trying to make is that if serious, multi-car accidents can happen even in a parking lot, they are even more likely on our streets. Accordingly, we owe it to ourselves to minimize the risk. Strictly adhering to the moderate speed limits in The Villages is certainly a "free" way to help keep us all safer. And we all know that seniors love "free" stuff.

Please! Let's be careful out there!

Russ_Boston
10-16-2010, 04:05 PM
see below

Russ_Boston
10-16-2010, 04:08 PM
There are idiots everywhere.

There are impaired drivers everywhere.

There are people who are visually impaired to drive everywhere.

There are just plain bad drivers everywhere.

This is just an example of why posted speed limits are almost inconsequential. This is a parking lot so someone was just being one of the four possibilities above.

chuckinca
10-16-2010, 04:15 PM
I hope the parked car was the one with the sun shade on the windshield.


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Mikeod
10-16-2010, 05:48 PM
I think you will find that each car was driving along and came to a junction where there was not one of those "superfluous" stop signs so neither one slowed down and BANG!! :22yikes:

getdul981
10-16-2010, 06:03 PM
I hope the parked car was the one with the sun shade on the windshield.


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Could be THAT's what the problem was - driver forgot to take down the sun shade.

golfnut
10-16-2010, 07:01 PM
I did not realize that 15 MPH was the posted speed limit in neighborhoods, I will have to keep an eye out in the future....gn

chacam
10-16-2010, 09:42 PM
What statute is that ? ?


State law says on any residential street, the speed limit is 30 mph. If a municipality (county, city or town) wants to lower it, it must be posted using the state's guidelines as to where and how often the signs should be.

If the street's not marked with a 15 mph sign, then you could ask the judge to through it out as not legal notification.

Skip

memason
10-17-2010, 12:30 AM
There are idiots everywhere.

There are impaired drivers everywhere.

There are people who are visually impaired to drive everywhere.

There are just plain bad drivers everywhere.

This is just an example of why posted speed limits are almost inconsequential. This is a parking lot so someone was just being one of the four possibilities above.

:agree: 150%

Indydealmaker
10-17-2010, 05:20 PM
I sure hope the auto insurance underwriters don't read this forum. Our rates are high enough now.

snowbird1898
10-17-2010, 07:31 PM
I can Certainly agree with this quote... !!! :agree:

Maybe an opposing view....but I read a lot about walkers, joggers, women with walkers, pets, bicyclists, segways, etc. on the streets. If seems to me that the streets were designed for automotive traffic and those are the ones who pay the motor fuel taxes and registration fees to maintain those same streets.

I'm not advocating that everyone drive 60mph in the neighborhoods, but 15mph is very slow. Correct me if I'm wrong, but school zones are designated 20mph. As other have noted, golf carts are passing you at that speed....and I would think even bicycles.


I'm just saying ...

jtdraig
10-17-2010, 07:38 PM
Fedwitch, you go girl.....:MOJE_whot:

BigLew
10-18-2010, 06:18 PM
What statute is that ? ?

316.183 Unlawful speed.

(1) No person shall drive a vehicle on a highway at a speed greater than is reasonable and prudent under the conditions and having regard to the actual and potential hazards then existing. In every event, speed shall be controlled as may be necessary to avoid colliding with any person, vehicle, or other conveyance or object on or entering the highway in compliance with legal requirements and the duty of all persons to use due care.

(2) On all streets or highways, the maximum speed limits for all vehicles must be 30 miles per hour in business or residence districts, and 55 miles per hour at any time at all other locations. However, with respect to a residence district, a county or municipality may set a maximum speed limit of 20 or 25 miles per hour on local streets and highways after an investigation determines that such a limit is reasonable. It is not necessary to conduct a separate investigation for each residence district. The minimum speed limit on all highways that comprise a part of the National System of Interstate and Defense Highways and have not fewer than four lanes is 40 miles per hour, except that when the posted speed limit is 70 miles per hour, the minimum speed limit is 50 miles per hour.



I do think 15 is reasonable though I've never really seen anyone go less than 20 mph <sigh>

Pturner
10-18-2010, 06:54 PM
Fedwitch, you go girl.....:MOJE_whot:

huh?

chuckster
10-18-2010, 07:34 PM
I agree........... Huh?

Frangyomory
10-18-2010, 07:59 PM
speed limits are for safety. get with the program.

LuvItHere
10-18-2010, 08:12 PM
Thanks for the warning - I didn't know it was 15mph.

I can only assume a resonable study was done to determine a safe speed. I agree with L2, I never limit my cart when in the neighborhood so I'm probably going closer to 20mph in the cart.

I agree. But now I'm going to ask what is probably considered a dumb question:

Where have you seen a speed limit SIGN that states it is 15 mph limit?!?!?!?!?

I've never seen one (south of 466)!!

Posting signs with the 15 mph limit seems pretty basic, especially when so many people move here from other states!

. . . . Just sayin' . . . .

Halle
10-18-2010, 08:20 PM
I agree. But now I'm going to ask what is probably considered a dumb question:

Where have you seen a speed limit SIGN that states it is 15 mph limit?!?!?!?!?

I've never seen one (south of 466)!!

Posting signs with the 15 mph limit seems pretty basic, especially when so many people move here from other states!

. . . . Just sayin' . . . .

Every neighborhood street I have driven south of 466 has a posted speed limit of 15 MPH. Turn onto a neighborhood street off of O'Dell Circle and you will see the posted speed of 15 MPH.

I have not seen a posted speed limit on the multi-modal path except on Morse crossing the bridge, but would like to see posted speed limits.

NJblue
10-18-2010, 08:32 PM
316.183 Unlawful speed.

(2) On all streets or highways, the maximum speed limits for all vehicles must be 30 miles per hour in business or residence districts, and 55 miles per hour at any time at all other locations. However, with respect to a residence district, a county or municipality may set a maximum speed limit of 20 or 25 miles per hour on local streets and highways after an investigation determines that such a limit is reasonable.

Interesting. Does that mean that 15 MPH limits violate state law?

villages07
10-18-2010, 09:04 PM
I've been paying more attention to speed limit signs lately. Halle is correct .... as far as I can tell everything south of Lake Sumter Landing has a 15 mph speed limit sign on every side street (designers and ranches...not sure about villa neighborhoods).

But, if you go north of 466 not so consistent. Speed limit sign on Oak Forest Dr (now I can't remember if it was 25 or 30) but nothing on any of the side streets that feed from it.

I really think 15mph is too slow for neighborhood side streets ... 20 (or even 25) makes more sense to me. JMHO.

Russ_Boston
10-18-2010, 10:11 PM
I would doubt if anyone, anyone is driving 15mph. If I were a bookie I place the over under at 1%. I've only visited but I have yet to see anyone drive that slow.

Everyone needs to look at themselves in the mirror before you tell me you drive 15 or less. I simply don't believe it. And I won't until I witness it for myself.

otherbruddaDarrell
10-19-2010, 07:34 AM
Paint the speed on the road at each stop sign.

spk7951
10-19-2010, 08:28 AM
I've been paying more attention to speed limit signs lately. Halle is correct .... as far as I can tell everything south of Lake Sumter Landing has a 15 mph speed limit sign on every side street (designers and ranches...not sure about villa neighborhoods).

But, if you go north of 466 not so consistent. Speed limit sign on Oak Forest Dr (now I can't remember if it was 25 or 30) but nothing on any of the side streets that feed from it.

I really think 15mph is too slow for neighborhood side streets ... 20 (or even 25) makes more sense to me. JMHO.


Last week I drove through a couple of neighborhoods north of 466 and the speed limit signs read 25mph but south of 466 all I have ever seen is 15mph. So why is there no consistency in the same county?

zcaveman
10-19-2010, 08:36 AM
Last week I drove through a couple of neighborhoods north of 466 and the speed limit signs read 25mph but south of 466 all I have ever seen is 15mph. So why is there no consistency in the same county?

Which roads? All of the "main roads" - Tally Ho, Belle Meade Circle, Oak Forest for example are 25 mph. I have checked entrances to the villas and residential areas and they are 10 MPH and 15 MPH respectively.

spk7951
10-19-2010, 08:49 AM
Which roads? All of the "main roads" - Tally Ho, Belle Meade Circle, Oak Forest for example are 25 mph. I have checked entrances to the villas and residential areas and they are 10 MPH and 15 MPH respectively.

San Marino Drive. It does not have a marked golf cart lane just like the roads here in Hadley and the sign reads 25mph.

LittleDog
10-19-2010, 01:20 PM
I live south of 466 in Poinciana and haven't noticed any 15 mph speed limit signs. Still looking!!!!

John

ajbrown
10-19-2010, 01:24 PM
I live in Mallory (fourth winter) off of Odell and until I read this thread I never noticed a sign at the end of Murphys Estate that said 15 MPH. It is there clear as day, maybe time for that eye exam for me :shrug:

villages07
10-19-2010, 03:57 PM
In my travels today....

Bridgeport at Lake Sumter... Limit is 15 on the main road in.

A little further up in Winifred...Kingston road is 25 and none of the side streets that feed off of it have signs so I guess they inherit the 25.

Cross 466 to Polo Ridge and Oak forest Dr ... Limit is 25 with no signs on the cross streets.

So, I assume that somewhere from Bridgeport south they determined that neighborhoods should be 15 and not 25. Same streets, same flows, wonder why the difference.

I'm sure there are highway and road design standards that dictate speed for conditions. Same conditions in two different areas... One is 25 the other 15. How come???? Very inconsistent.

thistrucksforyou
10-19-2010, 04:28 PM
I have rented there in TV many times and I will be there for 2 weeks after Thanksgiving...Let me say happy holidays everybody....Any way I have rented many golf carts and none of them had a speedometer...How are you suppose to know how fast you are going without one....

Pturner
10-19-2010, 07:53 PM
I have rented there in TV many times and I will be there for 2 weeks after Thanksgiving...Let me say happy holidays everybody....Any way I have rented many golf carts and none of them had a speedometer...How are you suppose to know how fast you are going without one....

If you're keeping up with all the other carts... you're exceeding the speed limit.

Bill-n-Brillo
10-19-2010, 08:33 PM
Take a GPS along with you on your next cart ride. It was an eye-opener for me!! :22yikes:

Bill