The Flue or Covid

[Michael G.]

Hello Villages, knower of all things.

How can they (doctors) tell if you have the flue or have Covid 19?

[dblwyr]

They test for it.

[DAVES]

Hello Villages, knower of all things.

How can they (doctors) tell if you have the flue or have Covid 19?

My view,"knower of all things." You do not need to know anything to post here.
It is OPINION from people using pseudo names. My opinion. If, you are not feeling well stay away from others. There are blood tests that will tell you. Aside, symptoms are similar, both are covid viruses, either can kill you. Covid 19 is just getting more press coverage.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

My view,"knower of all things." You do not need to know anything to post here.
It is OPINION from people using pseudo names. My opinion. If, you are not feeling well stay away from others. There are blood tests that will tell you. Aside, symptoms are similar, both are covid viruses, either can kill you. Covid 19 is just getting more press coverage.

The flu is not a "covid" virus. It is an influenza virus. That's why it's called the flu. Even COVID-19 isn't a "covid" virus. It is a coronavirus. The term COVID-19 is derived from "coronavirus disease 2019." The illness people refer to as "a cold" is also a coronavirus. But no, the flu is NOT a corinavirus, of the 19 variety or otherwise.

[ThirdOfFive]

Hello Villages, knower of all things.

How can they (doctors) tell if you have the flue or have Covid 19?
Test.

From the sufferer's perspective, not much difference. I've had 'em both. The flu several times over the years, and COVID last year. Not much fun but in all honesty I've been sicker with the flu. Several times.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Test.

From the sufferer's perspective, not much difference. I've had 'em both. The flu several times over the years, and COVID last year. Not much fun but in all honesty I've been sicker with the flu. Several times.

There are some significant differences. With the flu, it's not likely you'll lose your sense of smell or taste. That's not a common symptom of influenza. People who are VERY sick with influenza, still don't typically need to be intubated or ventilated, and their deaths, while unpleasant, are not typically caused by them drowning on their own mucus. With COVID, that is what kills you. The pneumonia that comes as an actual symptom of severe COVID infection.

If you are very sick with the flu, once you've recovered, you're recovered. Recovery might take awhile, depending on how sick you were, but it's over when it's over. Not always the case with COVID. Some people suffer permanent lung and/or heart damage from COVID-19. Some people lost their sense of taste and smell, and almost two years later now - still haven't gotten it back. Imagine eating something and not knowing that it's rotten or rancid, until you're puking your brains out an hour later. Not something I'd ever want to look forward to, having to scrutinize every morsel that goes into my mouth. Imagine not smelling smoke, if you're distracted in the house and the smoke hasn't triggered the alarm yet.

COVID-19 and the flu are similar - if you are NOT very sick from either. If you are very sick from either, they are very distinctly different from each other.

[Byte1]

There are some significant differences. With the flu, it's not likely you'll lose your sense of smell or taste. That's not a common symptom of influenza. People who are VERY sick with influenza, still don't typically need to be intubated or ventilated, and their deaths, while unpleasant, are not typically caused by them drowning on their own mucus. With COVID, that is what kills you. The pneumonia that comes as an actual symptom of severe COVID infection.

If you are very sick with the flu, once you've recovered, you're recovered. Recovery might take awhile, depending on how sick you were, but it's over when it's over. Not always the case with COVID. Some people suffer permanent lung and/or heart damage from COVID-19. Some people lost their sense of taste and smell, and almost two years later now - still haven't gotten it back. Imagine eating something and not knowing that it's rotten or rancid, until you're puking your brains out an hour later. Not something I'd ever want to look forward to, having to scrutinize every morsel that goes into my mouth. Imagine not smelling smoke, if you're distracted in the house and the smoke hasn't triggered the alarm yet.

COVID-19 and the flu are similar - if you are NOT very sick from either. If you are very sick from either, they are very distinctly different from each other.

"A number of studies have linked influenza to an increased risk of heart attack and stroke, and scientists have theorized that the inflammatory response triggered by the flu can fuel the development of atherosclerosis, a contributor to heart and artery disease."
"Other research has suggested that this association persists past those initial seven days of infection: A 2004 NEJM study found that while the increased risks of heart attack and stroke were both highest in the first three days after diagnosis, the dangers only “gradually fell during the following weeks.” And in 2008, researchers reported in the European Heart Journal that the risk of stroke after a flu diagnosis remained elevated up to three months."
There are many other side effects attributed to the Flu, so to discount the seriousness of the illness, is not a very good argument. Covid is bad IF you become infected AND you have the serious symptoms. So is the Flu. Millions get infected with both and survive. That's not my opinion, just fact. My opinion is that more folks are infected with Covid and shrug it off easier than those infected with the FLU. Seems like even the slightest flu infection causes more misery than the slightest Covid infection. Just my opinion on the last.

[JMintzer]

There are some significant differences. With the flu, it's not likely you'll lose your sense of smell or taste. That's not a common symptom of influenza. People who are VERY sick with influenza, still don't typically need to be intubated or ventilated, and their deaths, while unpleasant, are not typically caused by them drowning on their own mucus. With COVID, that is what kills you. The pneumonia that comes as an actual symptom of severe COVID infection.

If you are very sick with the flu, once you've recovered, you're recovered. Recovery might take awhile, depending on how sick you were, but it's over when it's over. Not always the case with COVID. Some people suffer permanent lung and/or heart damage from COVID-19. Some people lost their sense of taste and smell, and almost two years later now - still haven't gotten it back. Imagine eating something and not knowing that it's rotten or rancid, until you're puking your brains out an hour later. Not something I'd ever want to look forward to, having to scrutinize every morsel that goes into my mouth. Imagine not smelling smoke, if you're distracted in the house and the smoke hasn't triggered the alarm yet.

COVID-19 and the flu are similar - if you are NOT very sick from either. If you are very sick from either, they are very distinctly different from each other.

"In fact, both the common cold and influenza can cause temporary anosmia. Scientists have also identified a loss of taste and smell among the symptoms associated with COVID-19. “Viruses can disrupt the nerves related to smell..."

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

There are some significant differences. With the flu, it's not likely you'll lose your sense of smell or taste. That's not a common symptom of influenza. People who are VERY sick with influenza, still don't typically need to be intubated or ventilated, and their deaths, while unpleasant, are not typically caused by them drowning on their own mucus. With COVID, that is what kills you. The pneumonia that comes as an actual symptom of severe COVID infection.

If you are very sick with the flu, once you've recovered, you're recovered. Recovery might take awhile, depending on how sick you were, but it's over when it's over. Not always the case with COVID. Some people suffer permanent lung and/or heart damage from COVID-19. Some people lost their sense of taste and smell, and almost two years later now - still haven't gotten it back. Imagine eating something and not knowing that it's rotten or rancid, until you're puking your brains out an hour later. Not something I'd ever want to look forward to, having to scrutinize every morsel that goes into my mouth. Imagine not smelling smoke, if you're distracted in the house and the smoke hasn't triggered the alarm yet.

COVID-19 and the flu are similar - if you are NOT very sick from either. If you are very sick from either, they are very distinctly different from each other.

"A number of studies have linked influenza to an increased risk of heart attack and stroke, and scientists have theorized that the inflammatory response triggered by the flu can fuel the development of atherosclerosis, a contributor to heart and artery disease."
"Other research has suggested that this association persists past those initial seven days of infection: A 2004 NEJM study found that while the increased risks of heart attack and stroke were both highest in the first three days after diagnosis, the dangers only “gradually fell during the following weeks.” And in 2008, researchers reported in the European Heart Journal that the risk of stroke after a flu diagnosis remained elevated up to three months."
There are many other side effects attributed to the Flu, so to discount the seriousness of the illness, is not a very good argument. Covid is bad IF you become infected AND you have the serious symptoms. So is the Flu. Millions get infected with both and survive. That's not my opinion, just fact. My opinion is that more folks are infected with Covid and shrug it off easier than those infected with the FLU. Seems like even the slightest flu infection causes more misery than the slightest Covid infection. Just my opinion on the last.

"In fact, both the common cold and influenza can cause temporary anosmia. Scientists have also identified a loss of taste and smell among the symptoms associated with COVID-19. “Viruses can disrupt the nerves related to smell..."

I'm glad you are both agreeing with and confirming what I said - that the loss of smell/taste is not a COMMON symptom (meaning, that yes, it's a symptom - but not common - so yes, it can happen) of flu, and that yes, symptoms can last for awhile with flu but once you're recovered, you're recovered (the reference to increased risk of heart disease for up to 3 months after recovery from flu).

With COVID, my reference was not to increased risk of heart disease. It was permanent damage to the heart. Permanent damage is not risk of. It's actual damage.

Y'all seem to have trouble with some words, like "common" and "risk of" and "temporary" and "up to". Like, if I post something, you pretend I post in absolutes.

It's kinda weird. And kinda creepy.

And if you're going to go out of your way to actually quote a source, you might consider citing it so that everyone can check it for context.

[Byte1]

I'm glad you are both agreeing with and confirming what I said - that the loss of smell/taste is not a COMMON symptom (meaning, that yes, it's a symptom - but not common - so yes, it can happen) of flu, and that yes, symptoms can last for awhile with flu but once you're recovered, you're recovered (the reference to increased risk of heart disease for up to 3 months after recovery from flu).

With COVID, my reference was not to increased risk of heart disease. It was permanent damage to the heart. Permanent damage is not risk of. It's actual damage.

Y'all seem to have trouble with some words, like "common" and "risk of" and "temporary" and "up to". Like, if I post something, you pretend I post in absolutes.

It's kinda weird. And kinda creepy.

And if you're going to go out of your way to actually quote a source, you might consider citing it so that everyone can check it for context.

I also think it is "creepy" when folks post as if they are experts and they were only stating their opinion. It makes it somewhat easier to separate the experts from those with opinions, when they mention that it is their opinion. Is it really "creepy" when someone comments on a person's post on the premise that we are having a discussion?
I usually reserve "creepy" for Halloween, and that is a distant week ago.

[Altavia]

The diagnostic tests for both are specific but it is possible to have a small percentage of false positives/negatives with any diagnostic test.

[Bogie Shooter]

I also think it is "creepy" when folks post as if they are experts and they were only stating their opinion. It makes it somewhat easier to separate the experts from those with opinions, when they mention that it is their opinion. Is it really "creepy" when someone comments on a person's post on the premise that we are having a discussion?
I usually reserve "creepy" for Halloween, and that is a distant week ago.

Wait, there are experts posting on here?

[JMintzer]

I'm glad you are both agreeing with and confirming what I said - that the loss of smell/taste is not a COMMON symptom (meaning, that yes, it's a symptom - but not common - so yes, it can happen) of flu, and that yes, symptoms can last for awhile with flu but once you're recovered, you're recovered (the reference to increased risk of heart disease for up to 3 months after recovery from flu).

With COVID, my reference was not to increased risk of heart disease. It was permanent damage to the heart. Permanent damage is not risk of. It's actual damage.

Y'all seem to have trouble with some words, like "common" and "risk of" and "temporary" and "up to". Like, if I post something, you pretend I post in absolutes.

It's kinda weird. And kinda creepy.

And if you're going to go out of your way to actually quote a source, you might consider citing it so that everyone can check it for context.

It's not "common" with Covid, either... It is a symptom, but far more people DON'T get it that do. Just like with the flu...

And cite the source? You first...

[JMintzer]

Wait, there are experts posting on here?

So I've been told... Mostly by them... :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

It's a joke, folks! Yes, there are several on this board who are much more informed on certain medical issues than the average bear. They even know more than I DO! :shocked::shocked::shocked:

[ThirdOfFive]

There are some significant differences. With the flu, it's not likely you'll lose your sense of smell or taste. That's not a common symptom of influenza. People who are VERY sick with influenza, still don't typically need to be intubated or ventilated, and their deaths, while unpleasant, are not typically caused by them drowning on their own mucus. With COVID, that is what kills you. The pneumonia that comes as an actual symptom of severe COVID infection.

If you are very sick with the flu, once you've recovered, you're recovered. Recovery might take awhile, depending on how sick you were, but it's over when it's over. Not always the case with COVID. Some people suffer permanent lung and/or heart damage from COVID-19. Some people lost their sense of taste and smell, and almost two years later now - still haven't gotten it back. Imagine eating something and not knowing that it's rotten or rancid, until you're puking your brains out an hour later. Not something I'd ever want to look forward to, having to scrutinize every morsel that goes into my mouth. Imagine not smelling smoke, if you're distracted in the house and the smoke hasn't triggered the alarm yet.

COVID-19 and the flu are similar - if you are NOT very sick from either. If you are very sick from either, they are very distinctly different from each other.
I can only speak from my own experiences. Having COVID was certainly no fun (the loss of smell and taste was annoying but not a big deal since I had no appetite anyway), and the fever was gone after three or four days. I have severe asthma and coronary artery disease but try to live as healthy a lifestyle as possible, take meds as prescribed, exercise regularly (wife says compulsively) and keep my weight down. The people I've known who were severely impacted by COVID didn't do those things. In all honesty I wasn't too worried. I've beaten worse things before.

Flu is another thing. I've come down with pneumonia from the flu three times in my life, twice leading to hospitalizations, and all AFTER having the flu shot. One time even after that quadruple-strength one you get once you reach 65. Decidedly NOT fun. Again, speaking strictly from my own experience, having COVID was a walk in the park compared to those times.

[blueash]

.. I have heard (right or wrong) that the Covid test will test positive for the Flu. Is that true?


It is not true. There can be rare errors in testing but the test for flu is specific for influenza while the test for Covid is specific for Covid-19 It of course is also possible for an unlucky person to have simultaneous infections. There are commercial products that test for both diseases with a single sample but the result tells you which one is positive, or both positive, or neither positive.

[blueash]

The flu is not a "covid" virus. It is an influenza virus. That's why it's called the flu. Even COVID-19 isn't a "covid" virus. It is a coronavirus. The term COVID-19 is derived from "coronavirus disease 2019." The illness people refer to as "a cold" is also a coronavirus. But no, the flu is NOT a corinavirus, of the 19 variety or otherwise.

You were doing so well until that enlarged sentence. While there are some "colds" caused by coronaviruses, the overwhelming majority of common colds are not (https://www.cdc.gov/features/rhinoviruses/index.html).

Causes of the Common Cold
Many different respiratory viruses can cause the common cold, but rhinoviruses are the most common. Rhinoviruses can also trigger asthma attacks and have been linked to sinus and ear infections. Other viruses that can cause colds include respiratory syncytial virus, human parainfluenza viruses, adenovirus, common human coronaviruses, and human metapneumovirus

[JMintzer]

It is not true. There can be rare errors in testing but the test for flu is specific for influenza while the test for Covid is specific for Covid-19 It of course is also possible for an unlucky person to have simultaneous infections. There are commercial products that test for both diseases with a single sample but the result tells you which one is positive, or both positive, or neither positive.

And there is someone who could be considered "an expert"... :icon_wink:

[Packer Fan]

Test.

From the sufferer's perspective, not much difference. I've had 'em both. The flu several times over the years, and COVID last year. Not much fun but in all honesty I've been sicker with the flu. Several times.

Everyone is different - my formerly Anti-Vax best friend spent 2 weeks in the Villages hospital and to be honest I was not sure he would make it out. He spent 6 more weeks on Oxygen, but is largely better now. Have never heard of a 58 year old having that bad a case of the flu. He used to sound like you - now he says "this ain't no flu, way worse". Just sayin. This has killed a lot more people too.....

[JMintzer]

Everyone is different - my formerly Anti-Vax best friend spent 2 weeks in the Villages hospital and to be honest I was not sure he would make it out. He spent 6 more weeks on Oxygen, but is largely better now. Have never heard of a 58 year old having that bad a case of the flu. He used to sound like you - now he says "this ain't no flu, way worse". Just sayin. This has killed a lot more people too.....

58 yos can and do have bad cases of the flu. Some even die...

But I'll not get into another "vaccine debate". No point...

[Bellavita]

It amazes me when one poses a question to the public when it is a question for a doctor. I don’t know it’s kinda like getting your critical thinking from Joe Rogan.

[jimkerr]

Hello Villages, knower of all things.

How can they (doctors) tell if you have the flue or have Covid 19?

The same way they determine anything else. You get tested.

[mkjelenbaas]

You may want to call your doctor instead of getting your info here!

[Susan1717]

I had Covid 9 months ago. I go every 2 months for my antibody test and they are still sky high. I only know of one person that gets their antibodies tested that has been vaccinated. We are only given percentages on the news…. I’d like to see public test results on our average of actual antibody numbers before and after each shot or booster, not just bland percentages. They must have exact numbers in order to present percentages. I have 2 friends that got their first vaccination 3 months after Covid and got extremely sick for 4-5 days. Is it because their antibody level was too high still? At 3 months mine was over 2.5. Mine have now stabilized at 1.5 and have not gone down from that. My friend is only at 0.87 after 2 vaccinations. I think if we were given more exact statistics, everyone would feel more trusting and at ease.
I’m also curious as to the number of cases that have had Covid on 2 separate times and the timeline between each episode. Thank you for any info on this.

[Villages Kahuna]

Got both at the same time in my doctor’s office. No problems whatsoever.

[DAIII]

They test for it.

Not that science card again?

Love this!

[JMintzer]

It amazes me when one poses a question to the public when it is a question for a doctor. I don’t know it’s kinda like getting your critical thinking from Joe Rogan.

Too bad there are no actual Doctors on this board....

[Cheiro]

Hello Villages, knower of all things.

How can they (doctors) tell if you have the flue or have Covid 19?

That's easy, the doctors train for 6+ years to identify diseases and medical conditions. And of course, the flu and Covid19 are very different conditions.

[Beyond The Wall]

PCR test gives many false positives. That is the reason it will NOT be use anymore in December, as per CDC guidelines! The cycle it test at makes all the difference in the world. Range is 10-50. Any above 25 will almost always give a positive result. If you get tested ask what cycle they test at. No one will tell you. Each state is different.
Do your own research ! Don’t depend on news anchors or blogs like this.

[Beplion]

Nasal swab

[Wyseguy]

I had Covid 9 months ago. I go every 2 months for my antibody test and they are still sky high. I only know of one person that gets their antibodies tested that has been vaccinated. We are only given percentages on the news…. I’d like to see public test results on our average of actual antibody numbers before and after each shot or booster, not just bland percentages. They must have exact numbers in order to present percentages. I have 2 friends that got their first vaccination 3 months after Covid and got extremely sick for 4-5 days. Is it because their antibody level was too high still? At 3 months mine was over 2.5. Mine have now stabilized at 1.5 and have not gone down from that. My friend is only at 0.87 after 2 vaccinations. I think if we were given more exact statistics, everyone would feel more trusting and at ease.
I’m also curious as to the number of cases that have had Covid on 2 separate times and the timeline between each episode. Thank you for any info on this.

I totally agree with you. Experience has shown that those who try and censor information are usually not confidant that their opinion can stand up to scrutiny.

[Wyseguy]

Too bad there are no actual Doctors on this board....

Who needs doctors when there are Joy Behar and Whoopie Goldberg.
Putting that aside, on this issue there are doctors on all sides. My Oncologist advises against the shot, my GP urges I get it. I go to a non censored search engine and there are doctors on all sides. In the days gone by, your doctor told you something and that was the science. Today, with the internet, things are not so black and white. Hoping we all stay safe and make the choices that will work out best for us. Frightening to think I beat stage 3 cancer, many operations, working 50 years to be hurt by this.

[DonnaNi4os]

Hello Villages, knower of all things.

How can they (doctors) tell if you have the flue or have Covid 19?

There is a simple test for both. It’s science, not a guessing game.

[Notsocrates]

Test.

From the sufferer's perspective, not much difference. I've had 'em both. The flu several times over the years, and COVID last year. Not much fun but in all honesty I've been sicker with the flu. Several times.

"A number of studies have linked influenza to an increased risk of heart attack and stroke, and scientists have theorized that the inflammatory response triggered by the flu can fuel the development of atherosclerosis, a contributor to heart and artery disease."
"Other research has suggested that this association persists past those initial seven days of infection: A 2004 NEJM study found that while the increased risks of heart attack and stroke were both highest in the first three days after diagnosis, the dangers only “gradually fell during the following weeks.” And in 2008, researchers reported in the European Heart Journal that the risk of stroke after a flu diagnosis remained elevated up to three months."
There are many other side effects attributed to the Flu, so to discount the seriousness of the illness, is not a very good argument. Covid is bad IF you become infected AND you have the serious symptoms. So is the Flu. Millions get infected with both and survive. That's not my opinion, just fact. My opinion is that more folks are infected with Covid and shrug it off easier than those infected with the FLU. Seems like even the slightest flu infection causes more misery than the slightest Covid infection. Just my opinion on the last.

Careful!!
"Linked to" is only some statistical corellation, however tiny, that most likelly has no meaning.
And scientists "theorizing" is really hypothesizing which is what scientists do. It does not imply anything.

[Albany]

Hello Villages, knower of all things.

How can they (doctors) tell if you have the flue or have Covid 19?

It is simple. The flue is attached to your house. Covid is attached to your body.

[cherylncliff]

My view,"knower of all things." You do not need to know anything to post here.
It is OPINION from people using pseudo names. My opinion. If, you are not feeling well stay away from others. There are blood tests that will tell you. Aside, symptoms are similar, both are covid viruses, either can kill you. Covid 19 is just getting more press coverage.

From Scripps and CDC
Flu and COVID-19 are both contagious respiratory illnesses but are caused by different viruses. COVID-19 is caused by infection with a novel coronavirus known as SARS-CoV-2. Flu is caused by infection with influenza viruses. Both can spread from person to person. Sep 29, 2021

From CDC
CDC's multiplex assay simultaneously detects influenza A virus, influenza B virus, and SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19.

[Burgy]

Nasal and throat swabs

[blueash]

PCR test gives many false positives. That is the reason it will NOT be use anymore in December, as per CDC guidelines! The cycle it test at makes all the difference in the world. Range is 10-50. Any above 25 will almost always give a positive result. If you get tested ask what cycle they test at. No one will tell you. Each state is different.
Do your own research ! Don’t depend on news anchors or blogs like this.

I carefully read your post looking for the linky things that tell me where you get your information. Maybe you forgot to include them so please do so for me. I am an avid reader and always willing to learn new material. I am duly warned by you that what appears on this blog is not dependable. Maybe you're the not dependable blogger??

Now the truth. The 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel tests given emergency authorization in the early months of the Covid outbreak are being replaced. You seem to believe that this is because those tests were failures. You are wrong. Those tests are extremely accurate but their emergency use authorization is over at the end of December.

The tests being authorized for ongoing testing involve getting both a Covid result and an influenza result. If you want to see how a link works take your mouse and click over the word HERE (https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/08-02-2021-lab-alert-Clarifications_about_Retirement_CDC_2019_Novel_Cor onavirus_1.html)

That link will give the real information from the CDC itself on why the EUA for this specific product is ended and why a new test is being supported, and very clearly will tell you that the end of the EUA is not related to any concerns about the performance of the retiring test kits.

From the link for those who don't click thru:

"Was the CDC 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel revoked because it failed its review by FDA?

No. The CDC 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel did not fail a full review and was not revoked by the FDA.

Is CDC retiring the CDC 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel because it has produced inaccurate results?

No. There are no performance concerns with this test. The CDC 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel is a highly accurate test. It has been used to successfully detect SARS-CoV-2 since February 2020.

Since the CDC 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel continues to perform well, CDC will continue to make the design of the primers and probes used in the CDC 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel publicly available on the CDC website. Laboratories and test developers are free to use the design in their own research or diagnostic test."

Do you read that? The material used in the withdrawn kit is still available to be used in updated products, because it works.

For those who want more accurate information click HERE (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/lab/virus-requests.html?ACSTrackingID=USCDC_2146-DM62994&ACSTrackingLabel=Lab%20Alert%3A%20Clarifications%2 0about%20the%20Retirement%20of%20the%20CDC%202019% 20Novel%20Coronavirus%20(2019-nCov)%20Real-Time%20RT-PCR%20Diagnostic%20Panel&deliveryName=USCDC_2146-DM62994)

[Altavia]

I carefully read your post looking for the linky things that tell me where you get your information. Maybe you forgot to include them so please do so for me. I am an avid reader and always willing to learn new material. I am duly warned by you that what appears on this blog is not dependable. Maybe you're the not dependable blogger??

Now the truth. The 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel tests given emergency authorization in the early months of the Covid outbreak are being replaced. You seem to believe that this is because those tests were failures. You are wrong. Those tests are extremely accurate but their emergency use authorization is over at the end of December.

The tests being authorized for ongoing testing involve getting both a Covid result and an influenza result. If you want to see how a link works take your mouse and click over the word HERE (https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/08-02-2021-lab-alert-Clarifications_about_Retirement_CDC_2019_Novel_Cor onavirus_1.html)

That link will give the real information from the CDC itself on why the EUA for this specific product is ended and why a new test is being supported, and very clearly will tell you that the end of the EUA is not related to any concerns about the performance of the retiring test kits.

From the link for those who don't click thru:

"Was the CDC 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel revoked because it failed its review by FDA?

No. The CDC 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel did not fail a full review and was not revoked by the FDA.

Is CDC retiring the CDC 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel because it has produced inaccurate results?

No. There are no performance concerns with this test. The CDC 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel is a highly accurate test. It has been used to successfully detect SARS-CoV-2 since February 2020.

Since the CDC 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel continues to perform well, CDC will continue to make the design of the primers and probes used in the CDC 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel publicly available on the CDC website. Laboratories and test developers are free to use the design in their own research or diagnostic test."

Do you read that? The material used in the withdrawn kit is still available to be used in updated products, because it works.

For those who want more accurate information click HERE (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/lab/virus-requests.html?ACSTrackingID=USCDC_2146-DM62994&ACSTrackingLabel=Lab%20Alert%3A%20Clarifications%2 0about%20the%20Retirement%20of%20the%20CDC%202019% 20Novel%20Coronavirus%20(2019-nCov)%20Real-Time%20RT-PCR%20Diagnostic%20Panel&deliveryName=USCDC_2146-DM62994)

Well said.

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[blueash]

This would be funny if it wasn’t so sad. 98.6 percent of people who catch covid do not die. Most who do, suffer from other serious ailments such as uncontrolled diabetes, obesity and very old age. Some people get long lasting implications [I think you meant complications] but most people recover fully. I do not know how some of you people leave the house, you are so afraid. And guess what, you can stay home the rest of your life and you will die anyway.

Do you wear a seat belt? Honestly, do you wear one? Why? I am sure you can find data on how many people survive car accidents. I've been wearing one since the early 60's. I've never needed it. No crashes. But the benefit outweighs the risk. Yes, if I drive off the road into a lake, wearing a seat belt might kill me as I cannot escape. Similarly if my car catches on fire, seat belt kills driver.

I wear it because it might save me. Nobody else just me. And then I'm here for my family instead of dead. Covid vaccine not only potentially saves me, but also can save my family and total strangers. What an amazing benefit. Is it 100%? It doesn't have to be for it to be the altruistic and epidemiologic choice.

So no, you are wrong. I respect Covid, not fear it. It is a super killer. We are nearing a million dead Americans in under two years.

All of you who feel the need to carry a gun all the time in The Villages in case some life threatening event requires your action. Has that ever happened here? Ever? I've been here over a decade. I don't recall a stranger murder in the streets of The Villages. I can hardly recall a purse snatching or a simple mugging neither of which justifies deadly force. But you NEED A GUN. A well timed shot could save you.

We haven't been told how many Villagers have been killed by Covid. Certainly in the hundreds. Too bad they all didn't have a well timed shot, and a community that took such simple steps to protect them as well. Some of us tried. Not just for ourself, and our family, but for everyone. A shot in a bare arm is much more likely to have saved you and those you love than bearing arms.

[Joe C.]

Covid-19
Co = Corona
v = virus
id = identified
19 = the year it was identified. In this case, it was 2019

And that explains why it's called Covid-19

[RICH1]

this thread should go on for months... I take it , this is how Data mining got started! OP owns the Turnip Truck...

[Rodneysblue]

Hello Villages, knower of all things.

How can they (doctors) tell if you have the flue or have Covid 19?

OK FOLKS, I've got this one. Now this is very scientific, they use, now get this. This truly is amazing, I couldn't believe it the firs time I heard it. Yes that's right. It's, it's, it's a "Crystal Ball". There you now know. But don't tell anyone this is top secret. :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Bogie Shooter]

Do you wear a seat belt? Honestly, do you wear one? Why? I am sure you can find data on how many people survive car accidents. I've been wearing one since the early 60's. I've never needed it. No crashes. But the benefit outweighs the risk. Yes, if I drive off the road into a lake, wearing a seat belt might kill me as I cannot escape. Similarly if my car catches on fire, seat belt kills driver.

I wear it because it might save me. Nobody else just me. And then I'm here for my family instead of dead. Covid vaccine not only potentially saves me, but also can save my family and total strangers. What an amazing benefit. Is it 100%? It doesn't have to be for it to be the altruistic and epidemiologic choice.

So no, you are wrong. I respect Covid, not fear it. It is a super killer. We are nearing a million dead Americans in under two years.

All of you who feel the need to carry a gun all the time in The Villages in case some life threatening event requires your action. Has that ever happened here? Ever? I've been here over a decade. I don't recall a stranger murder in the streets of The Villages. I can hardly recall a purse snatching or a simple mugging neither of which justifies deadly force. But you NEED A GUN. A well timed shot could save you.

We haven't been told how many Villagers have been killed by Covid. Certainly in the hundreds. Too bad they all didn't have a well timed shot, and a community that took such simple steps to protect them as well. Some of us tried. Not just for ourself, and our family, but for everyone. A shot in a bare arm is much more likely to have saved you and those you love than bearing arms.

👍……

[Naturalmedman]

this thread should go on for months... I take it , this is how Data mining got started! OP owns the Turnip Truck...

Early treatment of Covid or the flu can be equally effective in mitigating the severity of either illness. We should all have a supply of vitamin C, vitamin D and zinc gluconate in our homes. At the first sign of a cold or flu we should begin using these nutraceuticals.

Doctors all over this planet including some in this country saw patients with Covid early on in the pandemic and used a combination of these nutraceuticals and pharmaceuticals, including anti inflammatories, anti virals and blood thinners to treat the symptoms they were seeing. These doctors claim that early treatment cut by some 85% the risk of hospitalization and death from COVID.

To learn more you can visit the website for the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (aapsonline.org). They offer a free pamphlet called Home Based COVID Treatment, Step-By-Step Doctor's Plan That Could Save Your Life that outlines their recommendations for early treatment.

They have learned that it is essential at the first signs to be proactive. The first few days of COVID can feel like "no big deal" but this is the time when the suggested treatments can be most effective. Knowledge is power and being well informed is our best defense. The above mentioned website is a wonderful source of knowledge and thus power.

This knowledge comes from the doctors on the front line, those who are actually treating patients every day. Most of the "authority" docs we see on tv are not actually treating patients.

Blessings to all.

[Aloha1]

The flu is not a "covid" virus. It is an influenza virus. That's why it's called the flu. Even COVID-19 isn't a "covid" virus. It is a coronavirus. The term COVID-19 is derived from "coronavirus disease 2019." The illness people refer to as "a cold" is also a coronavirus. But no, the flu is NOT a corinavirus, of the 19 variety or otherwise.

True, but the flu AND Covid share similar symptoms and I believe that was the gist of the OP's question.

[Scbang]

I was told by a doctor if you have runny nose it's cold or flu and Covid typically does not have that symptom. People who have had both, please verify with your experience (T/F).

Cheers!

[MDLNB]

Today's theme is that everything is deemed Covid until tested otherwise. I've talked with people that said they have had the covid and I asked them if they were tested. They said no, but they had the symptoms until they didn't. I asked them "what symptoms?" Some of them gave me a variety of different symptoms, some few mentioned a loss of taste, most didn't have that symptom. No one that I know of has had a cold or the flu in almost two years. It's amazing, the covid has cured the common cold and the flu!
About a month after receiving the covid vaccination, first myself and then my wife came down with symptoms of head congestion and a persistent cough. No fever and no sore throat. We treated it with over the counter cold medications and the illness eventually went away. Since everything is deemed covid, we must have had the covid. No, we did not get tested, and no we did not lose our sense of smell or taste.

[coffeebean]

Covid-19
Co = Corona
v = virus
id = identified
19 = the year it was identified. In this case, it was 2019

And that explains why it's called Covid-19

Enlightening! I did not know the "id" referred to "identified".

In my mind, I thought the "vid" part of the name was from virus disease.

Thanks.

[coffeebean]

Is the Brownwood theater still providing monoclonal antibody treatment?

[MDLNB]

Is the Brownwood theater still providing monoclonal antibody treatment?


Are you intending to get the antibody treatment to supplement your booster shot? Just curious. I was told by a friend that when he and his wife were infected recently with the covid, they went to Brownwood for the treatment and in two days they felt better than they have ever. Probably just seemed that way, but I can understand why they felt the relief after suffering from a potentially life threatening disease. Especially with a history of heart disease.

[coffeebean]

Are you intending to get the antibody treatment to supplement your booster shot? Just curious. I was told by a friend that when he and his wife were infected recently with the covid, they went to Brownwood for the treatment and in two days they felt better than they have ever. Probably just seemed that way, but I can understand why they felt the relief after suffering from a potentially life threatening disease. Especially with a history of heart disease.

I would only get the monoclonal antibody treatment if I were symptomatic for Covid with a Covid positive result. Other than that....no.