View Full Version : Looking for an answer on Covid, which most likely is not there.
DALEPQ
11-10-2021, 02:16 PM
About 8 days ago, my adult son tested positive for Covid.
He did get 2 vax's with Pfizer several months ago. Wife did also.
His symptoms are pretty mild, a bit sleepy at times and reduced smell for a bit.
He has 2 daughters that now have to do virtual learning at home until he tests negative. They continue to test negative,13 yr. old is vax'd, 10 yr. will get vax'd soon.
Thus, he has been getting fairly frequent testing done, thinking he will be negative soon, so they can return back to in-person school.
He and I both have a question: If each time he gets tested positive is that a "New Case" statistic recording???
Thus, is it used for Covid reporting each time???
Not sure if there is any answer to this anywhere?
Does anyone know factually about this?
Thanks.
billethkid
11-10-2021, 06:36 PM
Be prepared to be shocked.
While I cannot validate or confirm I was told by health care professionals that each positive test result is a new case the is no accumulation or correlation of incidences.
I will readily yield to first hand authentication(s).
Papa_lecki
11-10-2021, 07:32 PM
Cases are counted by state departments of health and reported to DC. Each state has their own way of counting. They can count unique patients or specimens (tests). Some states have even changed methods, so its tough to look at historical data. Plus, some people get tested in different states (i.e. northern Florida and southern Georgia; Pa and NJ; NY and NJ; etc). There would be no way to track that.
The process of deduplicating tests to arrive at a true “unique people” metric is extremely complex, particularly given the patchwork of testing sites and commercial and public labs state and territorial public health departments receive data from. For many states, the process has proven impossible: some states gave up trying to report tests in unique people back in the spring and switched to specimens, and several others currently reporting in people publicly note the difficulty or impossibility of consistent deduplication.
coffeebean
11-10-2021, 07:32 PM
There has been many a discussion on TOTV about the inaccuracy of the number of Covid positive cases. I don't know how true it is but, yes, it has been reported countless times that each positive test is a "new" case even if an individual is tested numerous times. Crazy, huh? This is the reason why many people do not believe this pandemic is truly as bad as we have been told it is.
EdFNJ
11-10-2021, 09:37 PM
There has been many a discussion on TOTV about the inaccuracy of the number of Covid positive cases. I don't know how true it is but, yes, it has been reported countless times that each positive test is a "new" case even if an individual is tested numerous times. Crazy, huh? This is the reason why many people do not believe this pandemic is truly as bad as we have been told it is. Well, even giving those "non-believers" theory a 50% error in counting/reporting or whatever would even having "just" HALF of the 758,000 deaths or "just" HALF of the 47,000,000 cases made it "not so bad"? I would doubt the duplication or counting errors would come anywhere close to 50%.
MDLNB
11-11-2021, 06:48 AM
Well, even giving those "non-believers" theory a 50% error in counting/reporting or whatever would even having "just" HALF of the 758,000 deaths or "just" HALF of the 47,000,000 cases made it "not so bad"? I would doubt the duplication or counting errors would come anywhere close to 50%.
Just curious, why you would say that. If a positive results in three additional tests before a negative test, and they report every test as a separate infection on their stat data, that would end up being a fourth of the reported infection rate in the state or country if that was a common method. I doubt they will ever know exactly how many actual infections we've had during the pandemic. "Non-believers?" Com'on dude! :)
SnowbirdOhio
11-11-2021, 08:42 AM
There has been many a discussion on TOTV about the inaccuracy of the number of Covid positive cases. I don't know how true it is but, yes, it has been reported countless times that each positive test is a "new" case even if an individual is tested numerous times. Crazy, huh? This is the reason why many people do not believe this pandemic is truly as bad as we have been told it is.
This would also hold true for multiple negative test results - I tested a few weeks ago because I had symptoms of coughing, etc. - Negative. Then it dragged on and on - I made dr. appointment to rule out pneumonia but dr. required a more recent covid test before they would see me, so I had another. Same dif, I think
Polarlys
11-11-2021, 09:30 AM
About a month ago I was traveling with my wife in our RV through southern Missouri. For 2 days I felt tired with some head congestion. Typical cold symptoms and I was planning to just sleep it off but my son talked me into making a trip to the nearby ER. I tested positive for covid there. They gave me nothing in the way of treatment at that time but advised that I come back to the hospital the next day for an IV infusion treatment. By the time I left the ER that evening I was feeling much better and the symptoms that I had seemed to be passing. The next morning my wife did a self test and was negative and I went for the IV infusion treatment. I drove myself to the hospital and was feeling so much better. The next day we separated from the group we were traveling with and headed home to New Jersey. A few days later, now at home, the local health dept. called and discussed my case and did the contact tracing. They put me in covid jail for the next 6 days and told me I DID NOT need to test at the end of the quarantine period and that I was then free to go about my life with the usual precautions. They also advised that my wife do another test and if negative was also free to to back to life. My symptoms were negligible and passed very quickly.
PS: We were both fully vaccinated last winter in Florida
Since then my wife got her booster shot. I've been told to wait 3 months after the
IV infusion
coffeebean
11-12-2021, 08:26 AM
This would also hold true for multiple negative test results - I tested a few weeks ago because I had symptoms of coughing, etc. - Negative. Then it dragged on and on - I made dr. appointment to rule out pneumonia but dr. required a more recent covid test before they would see me, so I had another. Same dif, I think
I don't think the negative tests are counted toward the infection rate. But......what do I know????
MDLNB
11-13-2021, 05:58 AM
This would also hold true for multiple negative test results - I tested a few weeks ago because I had symptoms of coughing, etc. - Negative. Then it dragged on and on - I made dr. appointment to rule out pneumonia but dr. required a more recent covid test before they would see me, so I had another. Same dif, I think
I have NOT seen any stats on "negative" testing. Why would you think that each negative test would result in another person being counted as "not infected?" They only report positive tests.
What I would find interesting is how many folks had Covid that were not tested. That will never happen, because the only way to be sure they have Covid is to test them. Even if the doctor treated someone with the symptoms without testing, we still would not have stats on it.
Just a guess but probably half the country has had Covid in one form or another. Like it has been said, some folks never show symptoms and some show mild cases. I know at least a dozen family members that have survived Covid (tested) with very short termed symptoms, resulting in less hassle than a common cold. I know of at least one that has had a mild case TWICE. Guess we will never know exactly how many have been infected with Covid. But, I do know a few that have had three positive tests in a row before a negative, and are likely listed as three separate cases of infection each.
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