France advises against Moderna for under-30s over rare heart risk

[MDLNB]

Apparently, France is the sixth country in Europe to ban or restrict the use of Moderna vaccine.
I wonder if maybe we should be thinking twice before rushing to force this upon our children of school age. It seems to be a rare occurrence that someone incurs heart problems, but if it is also rare that the young die from Covid, maybe they should hold off until further study is done?


France advises against Moderna for under-30s over rare heart risk (https://f24.my/88gr)

[Two Bills]

France is just pi$$ed off their vaccine didn't work.
They will probably arrest some more British fishing boats to cheer themselves up!

[MDLNB]

France is just pi$$ed off their vaccine didn't work.
They will probably arrest some more British fishing boats to cheer themselves up!

:confused::shrug::eek:

[DAVES]

Apparently, France is the sixth country in Europe to ban or restrict the use of Moderna vaccine.
I wonder if maybe we should be thinking twice before rushing to force this upon our children of school age. It seems to be a rare occurrence that someone incurs heart problems, but if it is also rare that the young die from Covid, maybe they should hold off until further study is done?


France advises against Moderna for under-30s over rare heart risk (https://f24.my/88gr)

Everything has risks and rewards. Perfection is perhaps the goal, what we demand but it does not exist.

I expect someone has researched how many people have been killed in car accidents or walking to get one two or three Covid shots.

Like many other things, in terms of reality the choice you make cannot be undone. I didn't take the shot and I died from covid-I DEMAND A DO OVER. Or, I took the shot and it killed me-I DEMAND A DO OVER.

We currently have four major covid shot manufacturers that I am aware of Pfizer, Moderna, Astro Zenica and Johnson and Johnson. The government is paying for it. No one is even asking about cost vs effectiveness. I may be wrong but I read somewhere that Pfizer is $20 a shot and Moderna is $21. I'm not sure perhaps it is the other way around my point is we do not know and no one seems to care. I've also read that Pfizer is owned by Germany, China and the United States. Moderna is American owned and Astro Zenica is English owned. First since they are all publicly traded what does this mean-beats me.

[Caymus]

I've also read that Pfizer is owned by Germany, China and the United States. Moderna is American owned and Astro Zenica is English owned. First since they are all publicly traded what does this mean-beats me.

Pfizer is an American Company. The BioNTech part of the Pfizer-BioNTech is German. Of course publicly traded companies can be own by almost anyone.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Pfizer is an American Company. The BioNTech part of the Pfizer-BioNTech is German. Of course publicly traded companies can be own by almost anyone.

Yup it was founded in New York, by two German immigrants.

Meanwhile, France has not "banned" Moderna. It has advised against it for under 30 and instead recommends Pfizer's Comirnaty vaccine instead. It's still available for under 30, if people under 30 want it.

[PugMom]

my daughter is going to ireland this xmas-- the govt recommended she gets the pfizer as it is what their govt. requires. (???) is there really a difference? comments?

[Caymus]

my daughter is going to ireland this xmas-- the govt recommended she gets the pfizer as it is what their govt. requires. (???) is there really a difference? comments?


Last I read Ireland required a mRNA vaccine (No J&J or Astra). She better hurry if they require two jabs plus the wait period.

[Waltdisney4life]

I guess France did not get the big fat paycheck from Pharma by forcing untested drugs on five-year-olds.

[Eg_cruz]

Apparently, France is the sixth country in Europe to ban or restrict the use of Moderna vaccine.
I wonder if maybe we should be thinking twice before rushing to force this upon our children of school age. It seems to be a rare occurrence that someone incurs heart problems, but if it is also rare that the young die from Covid, maybe they should hold off until further study is done?


France advises against Moderna for under-30s over rare heart risk (https://f24.my/88gr)
Well stated
But unfortunately the US is to busy walking around with its eyes closed

This maybe why Pfizer has made a $7B profit over Covid shots…….

[Kgcetm]

Let them eat Covid-19.

[merrymini]

The numbers indicate that children are not effected the same way as adults and the shot for them is not called for. I would NEVER let my child get this shot. About 300 children have died of covid out of about 72 million in this country. Not numbers that indicate it is worth the risk.

[golfing eagles]

The numbers indicate that children are not effected the same way as adults and the shot for them is not called for. I would NEVER let my child get this shot. About 300 children have died of covid out of about 72 million in this country. Not numbers that indicate it is worth the risk.

OK, your point is understood.

Question:

Just what is your education, expertise, and experience in virology and epidemiology to determine that "the shot for them is not called for" and that it is "NOT worth the risk'???

After all, the acknowledged experts (not Dr. Googles) have a consensus that is IS called for and IS worth the risk.

[Chi-Town]

It tickles me that France is used as a source. Usually not a good thing.

[MandoMan]

Apparently, France is the sixth country in Europe to ban or restrict the use of Moderna vaccine.
I wonder if maybe we should be thinking twice before rushing to force this upon our children of school age. It seems to be a rare occurrence that someone incurs heart problems, but if it is also rare that the young die from Covid, maybe they should hold off until further study is done?


France advises against Moderna for under-30s over rare heart risk (https://f24.my/88gr)

No, don’t worry. I would encourage my own children to get it. The heart issues mentioned are MUCH more common and more deadly among those who get Covid but haven’t been vaccinated. Essentially, these “heart problems” are a bit like the arm soreness most of us got after being vaccinated. It’s temporary. It goes away. Vaccinated people aren’t dying of it.

[JustRita]

OK, your point is understood.

Question:

Just what is your education, expertise, and experience in virology and epidemiology to determine that "the shot for them is not called for" and that it is "NOT worth the risk'???

After all, the acknowledged experts (not Dr. Googles) have a consensus that is IS called for and IS worth the risk.
Maybe a PhD in marketing would be a better expert.

[mike1946]

Personally I would not trust the French as far as I could throw them !!! France is a fantastic country if it wasn't for the French !!!

[Rocket6789]

You're actually taking seriously anything those clowns say

[Carlsondm]

Apparently, France is the sixth country in Europe to ban or restrict the use of Moderna vaccine.
I wonder if maybe we should be thinking twice before rushing to force this upon our children of school age. It seems to be a rare occurrence that someone incurs heart problems, but if it is also rare that the young die from Covid, maybe they should hold off until further study is done?


France advises against Moderna for under-30s over rare heart risk (https://f24.my/88gr)
I think they read the last paragraph of the article you posted and decided to proceed with caution. That's what I would do. Compare the risk factor, make a decision, and move on.

[Altavia]

The numbers indicate that children are not effected the same way as adults and the shot for them is not called for. I would NEVER let my child get this shot. About 300 children have died of covid out of about 72 million in this country. Not numbers that indicate it is worth the risk.

As a parent the decision is truly a difficult paradox.

We need to account for the long haul COVID risks and potential multi-organ damage risks from the virus on children.

Also the risk is amplified due to children spreading upper respiratory illness so readily at school. And then carrying it home.

[donassaid]

The best answer is mo gene therapy shot at all. It isnt a vaccine and they are not telling the truth about all thpse who have been seriously sickened and died from the shot.

[lovesabook 2]

Our doctor suggested we look at globalcovidsummit.org to see many expert and experienced physicians and scientists discuss the vaccine. They also talked about administering this vaccine to children and the benefits of early treatment of COVID

[tophcfa]

It tickles me that France is used as a source. Usually not a good thing.

My thoughts as well. Not on the top of my list of information sources.

[MDLNB]

So, this is about France and not about covid and vaccine use? This is not about France other than their change in regards to their policy using Moderna. There are six countries with the same issue. The discussion is about possible side effects NOT where the article comes from.

[golfing eagles]

So, this is about France and not about covid and vaccine use? This is not about France other than their change in regards to their policy using Moderna. There are six countries with the same issue. The discussion is about possible side effects NOT where the article comes from.

That's like saying a thread is about filet mignon, and whether it comes from Mark's Prime or McDonald's is irrelevant:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[kkingston57]

Per everything that I have read this affects 30 years old. That is 1/2 my age and 3/7's of the probable median age of the residents of TV.

Had Moderna shot and happy I did.

[Bogie Shooter]

You're actually taking seriously anything those clowns say

Which posters are you referring to?

[EdFNJ]

The numbers indicate that children are not effected the same way as adults and the shot for them is not called for. I would NEVER let my child get this shot. About 300 children have died of covid out of about 72 million in this country. Not numbers that indicate it is worth the risk. You didn't specify what age range you define as "children" but actually and sadly as of 1 month ago the number was 700 according to the CDC. The shot also protects from GETTING covid and the suffering many children go through while having it and after having it. It also somewhat reduces the spread because if one doesn't actually get it they can't spread it. Did you give your kids smallpox and polio and measles and the other vaccines to attend school? If you did why? Barely anyone child or adult "dies" from those illnesses. Maybe the reason for that is because MOST everyone has been vaccinated.