Closed threads??

[Rainger99]

Can someone explain how threads are closed? I posted a thread on predicting the Rittenhouse verdict and it was quite active with almost 250 postings - the most recent beings 2:47 pm today. The verdict is still outstanding but the thread was closed. I looked on the website but couldn’t find an answer. Does anyone know? Thanks.

[Rango]

I’ll take a guess. This forum is for items directly pertaining to The Villages.

[Joe V.]

I’ll take a guess. This forum is for items directly pertaining to The Villages.

Nope. It probably got way to political for the moderators to deal with it anymore. Right or wrong, that is the way it is here.

[kathyspear]

I’ll take a guess. This forum is for items directly pertaining to The Villages.

The admins should have the ability to move a thread to another subforum. Seems like it would have been fine in the Current Events and News area.

kathy

[dewilson58]

Nope. It probably got way to political for the moderators to deal with it anymore. Right or wrong, that is the way it is here.

:bigbow:

[Joe V.]

The admins should have the ability to move a thread to another subforum. Seems like it would have been fine in the Current Events and News area.

kathy

I have had a couple of my threads moved to another sub-forum. No rhyme or reason for this.

[dewilson58]

99.............it's a judgement call by the peep's with the magic button.

I believe they try to be fair and equal to all.

There are a lot of posts and poster that I feel should not be here.

There are a lot of posters who feel I should not be here.

:BigApplause:

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

You answered your own post, 250 replies enough is enough, and I read none of them ., I’m sure I missed out on some wonderful expert legal opinions over and over and over , like I did on the movie shooting which I didn’t read either , I was 2 busy watching my grass grow

[Rainger99]

You answered your own post, 250 replies enough is enough, and I read none of them ., I’m sure I missed out on some wonderful expert legal opinions over and over and over , like I did on the movie shooting which I didn’t read either , I was 2 busy watching my grass grow
I don't think it has to do with the number of replies. The thread about nothing has more than 20,000 replies.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

You just answered your own post , the thread about nothing is nothing

[Topspinmo]

99.............it's a judgement call by the peep's with the magic button.

I believe they try to be fair and equal to all.

There are a lot of posts and poster that I feel should not be here.

There are a lot of posters who feel I should not be here.

:BigApplause:

But, we don’t get to decide that.:duck:

[DaleDivine]

99.............it's a judgement call by the peep's with the magic button.

I believe they try to be fair and equal to all.

There are a lot of posts and poster that I feel should not be here.

There are a lot of posters who feel I should not be here.

:BigApplause:

AWWWWW...

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

[Andyb]

Can someone explain how threads are closed? I posted a thread on predicting the Rittenhouse verdict and it was quite active with almost 250 postings - the most recent beings 2:47 pm today. The verdict is still outstanding but the thread was closed. I looked on the website but couldn’t find an answer. Does anyone know? Thanks.
In depth thoughts are not allowed, unless it’s about fuzzy dogs and pretty flowers.

[kcrazorbackfan]

Their circus, their monkeys…..

[Sandy and Ed]

There are too many replies (like this one) which do not respond to OP question or comment. Tendency to get boring. Maybe when moderators see the crux of the message evaporating, getting sidetracked, etc they simply close it down

[Kenswing]

I guess the philosophy here is that you aren't supposed to discuss what is going on in the world because it will upset the peace and happiness that the bubble of TV provides. Unfortunately, such a philosophy leads to terrible leaders being elected, though I will say that Vern Buchanan is someone who tries to represent the area's best interests and needs -- hope saying something good about someone isn't too political.

It's posts like this that get threads shut down. Politics are not allowed on this site. It's plastered across the top of every page.

[mkjelenbaas]

Can someone explain how threads are closed? I posted a thread on predicting the Rittenhouse verdict and it was quite active with almost 250 postings - the most recent beings 2:47 pm today. The verdict is still outstanding but the thread was closed. I looked on the website but couldn’t find an answer. Does anyone know? Thanks.
Maybe they don’t like your post?

[Mikee1]

Their circus, their monkeys…..

Not quite correct....

Their Circus....

You are one of the monkeys....

LOL

[Two Bills]

When the subject has turned from court room verdict, into what age soldiers can get their heads blown off, it is a sign the thread had run its course!

[fdpaq0580]

When the subject has turned from court room verdict, into what age soldiers can get their heads blown off, it is a sign the thread had run its course!

We are all just guessing.
Maybe one of the moderators would like to explain.

Or not.

[airstreamingypsy]

Can someone explain how threads are closed? I posted a thread on predicting the Rittenhouse verdict and it was quite active with almost 250 postings - the most recent beings 2:47 pm today. The verdict is still outstanding but the thread was closed. I looked on the website but couldn’t find an answer. Does anyone know? Thanks.

We are guests in the TOTV's house. Their house, their choice.

[DeanFL]

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and... THIS thread has all the signs of 'another one bites the dust'.

I had questioned, via email or PM, the Mods at least 5 times before re Thread closures.
Nothing back, ever.

No further comment, as I had spent my time in the penalty box before. It is what it is...
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[Bilyclub]

Yawn... This too shall pass...

[Bogie Shooter]

We are all just guessing.
Maybe one of the moderators would like to explain.

Or not.

The moderators don’t have to explain……

BTW read post #19.

[DeanFL]

The moderators don’t have to explain……

BTW read post #19.

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nope they 'don't have to', but would be educational and at the very least provide a simple explanation. I have noticed that a FEW Mods state something in their last post, as to 'why', before they close Thread - but that's rare.
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[fdpaq0580]

The moderators don’t have to explain……

BTW read post #19.

Read #19 first time through. As for my post, never said they had to explain, only they might LIKE to so that we would not be chasing our tails looking for the real reason the post was removed. That's all.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

When the subject has turned from court room verdict, into what age soldiers can get their heads blown off, it is a sign the thread had run its course! ha ha I didn’t read any of the thread , but I guess it got even weirder then I thought it would , I’m actually surprised it got to 250 although some of the players are on time outs I think

[WesMan]

Can someone explain how threads are closed? I posted a thread on predicting the Rittenhouse verdict and it was quite active with almost 250 postings - the most recent beings 2:47 pm today. The verdict is still outstanding but the thread was closed. I looked on the website but couldn’t find an answer. Does anyone know? Thanks.
Little Sister or Little Brother

[fdpaq0580]

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nope they 'don't have to', but would be educational and at the very least provide a simple explanation. I have noticed that a FEW Mods state something in their last post, as to 'why', before they close Thread - but that's rare.
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Also noticed this. It would be nice to have an explanation why an active thread is being closed rather than, here one minute, gone the next. There are lots of open threads that haven't had a post in ages, yet still open???

[holger danske]

ha ha I didn’t read any of the thread , but I guess it got even weirder then I thought it would , I’m actually surprised it got to 250 although some of the players are on time outs I think

I've noticed many posters are easily distracted by squirrels.
Hey, how about a nice new thread on navigating roundabouts properly?

[MrFlorida]

After 250 posts what more can be said ?

[fdpaq0580]

I've noticed many posters are easily distracted by squirrels.
Hey, how about a nice new thread on navigating roundabouts properly?

There have been several of those, and always lively (and sometimes crazy) comments. Like the dog poop threads.

[MDLNB]

It is what it is. The set the rules so anyone wishing to participate have to conduct themselves by those set rules. I have been put in the penalty box before, but I don't cry about it. It would be nice if they would explain what was said that caused the punishment, but it IS their business. Like I said, it is what it is and we should just be grateful for the communication tool.

[Michael G.]

I posted something to political in the past, and the monitors were nice enough to send me a private message

[Gigi3000]

Maybe it might have contributed to Village rioting upon said verdict....is the NSA there? If theres even an NSA anymore? I can't keep up. The NSA was in my old neighborhood and they squelched a bunch...

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

I have no idea what your talking about

[Bilyclub]

The definition of politics on TOTY is very broad and undefined.

[fdpaq0580]

I posted something to political in the past, and the monitors were nice enough to send me a private message

You might be special.

[Bilyclub]

I am glad they closed the Rittenhouse thread. I joined Talk of the Villages because it said no politics. I use the site to learn more about the area and recommendations. For those who want politics start your own site called politics in The Villages. I find Florida politics exhausting. Prior to living here I never would have believed there were so many extremists.

I find things are a lot better here than in the very corrupt state of illinois and city of chicago.

[MDLNB]

I am glad they closed the Rittenhouse thread. I joined Talk of the Villages because it said no politics. I use the site to learn more about the area and recommendations. For those who want politics start your own site called politics in The Villages. I find Florida politics exhausting. Prior to living here I never would have believed there were so many extremists.


Hmm, not sure where you get that the Rittenhouse trial is political, but I do believe that they felt that the subject had run it's course so they closed it down. You do know that there is a section dedicated to General Discussions, where many start threads related to current events, right?



For those that do not like certain forums, there is no requirement that you enter and read all posts in all forums. Those that are distasteful to you can be avoided.

[Boomer]

The way it goes around here — and goes and goes and goes…..


It seems like it can get worse on weekends when a pattern sometimes emerges as threads get longer and longer and more and more rude.

There are those who have no room in their heads for anything that even remotely resembles an opinion that differs. The tribal behavior that is taking down our country plays out right here on TOTV on a regular basis.

There are posters who are hellbent on controlling the narrative and respond immediately, and often hatefully, to any opinion that does not fit the overall agenda they must cling to — without question.

Then the thread starts to look like a leaflet drop — with post after post after post with the sole goal of shutting up any opinion that might vary.

Sometimes I wonder if human spontaneous combustion could be a real thing because the rabid rage that shows through the words, in post, after post, after predictable post, seems to increase as such a thread goes on.

One side always takes over because of a dedication to sheer momentum — until nobody else even bothers anymore — and the mutual admiration circle gets another step closer to turning TOTV into just another internet political echo chamber.

Finally, a moderator says, “Enough!” and shuts it all down.

Then comes the self-righteous indignation, with the cries of “Foul!” and the buzzwords and co-opted phrases like “Freedom of Speech.” It’s always the same victim-playing routine.

I wish everybody would watch the middle segment of last Sunday’s 60 Minutes. It was about how our tribalism will be our complete downfall as a nation if we don’t come to our senses soon.

And about the moderators — I don’t know how they stand to do it. I appreciate it though. And I do not think they owe anybody an explanation because most of those who complain know exactly what happened.

Boomer

[Blackbird45]

I agree with all the reasons that were posted for a thread to be closed.
If it was for a political issue maybe a suggestion can be given to the poster a site where they can post that type of topic.

[Bogie Shooter]

I agree with all the reasons that were posted for a thread to be closed.
If it was for a political issue maybe a suggestion can be given to the poster a site where they can post that type of topic.

If they are smart enough to post veiled political posts on TOTV, they are smart enough to find a political site.

[thevillages2013]

I’ll take a guess. This forum is for items directly pertaining to The Villages.

Closed and moved are two different things

[thevillages2013]

Hmm, not sure where you get that the Rittenhouse trial is political, but I do believe that they felt that the subject had run it's course so they closed it down. You do know that there is a section dedicated to General Discussions, where many start threads related to current events, right?



For those that do not like certain forums, there is no requirement that you enter and read all posts in all forums. Those that are distasteful to you can be avoided.

Closed is different from “wrong topic for the forum “. That would just be moved to the correct forum

[EdFNJ]

I think they need to lower or remove the inflated subscription fees that we pay to use this forum if threads are going to be moderated. So unfair. ;)

[YeOldeCurmudgeon]

I explained why I thought they didn't want political comments somewhat sarcastically in this thread :ohdear: and mentioned a certain politician who I thought was doing a good job. Not only did they remove it, but gave me an infraction.

[twinklesweep]

This is just a reminder, generally speaking, that this is not an uncensored public forum. The moderators are the owners of this for-profit organization and as such are free to censor individual posts and/or shut down whole threads based perhaps to a degree of their personal opinions but primarily on the bottom line. They own it; they can run it as they wish. As with any other business, follow the money.

In the somewhat distant past, with a previous group of owners of TOTV, this level of censorship, or as they called it, “banning,” led to the departure of a large number of participants who had contributed significantly to the quality and well-being of the community. Change in ownership of TOTV notwithstanding, most of these folks never came back. It’s a shame, because they added so much to life in TV. Just remember that TOTV is not a public service.

[DeanFL]

This is just a reminder, generally speaking, that this is not an uncensored public forum. The moderators are the owners of this for-profit organization and as such are free to censor individual posts and/or shut down whole threads based perhaps to a degree of their personal opinions but primarily on the bottom line. They own it; they can run it as they wish. As with any other business, follow the money.

In the somewhat distant past, with a previous group of owners of TOTV, this level of censorship, or as they called it, “banning,” led to the departure of a large number of participants who had contributed significantly to the quality and well-being of the community. Change in ownership of TOTV notwithstanding, most of these folks never came back. It’s a shame, because they added so much to life in TV. Just remember that TOTV is not a public service.

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So very true - yep. Just like Facebook / Twitter etc etc. Another format of biased censorship. Sad.
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[Villages Kahuna]

Too close to political intent.

[frank1975]

You predicted the verdict on the Rittenhouse case and only got 250 comments???? I'M SHOCKED!!!!

[Bogie Shooter]

This is just a reminder, generally speaking, that this is not an uncensored public forum. The moderators are the owners of this for-profit organization and as such are free to censor individual posts and/or shut down whole threads based perhaps to a degree of their personal opinions but primarily on the bottom line. They own it; they can run it as they wish. As with any other business, follow the money.

In the somewhat distant past, with a previous group of owners of TOTV, this level of censorship, or as they called it, “banning,” led to the departure of a large number of participants who had contributed significantly to the quality and well-being of the community. Change in ownership of TOTV notwithstanding, most of these folks never came back. It’s a shame, because they added so much to life in TV. Just remember that TOTV is not a public service.

I remember that period, many that left were consistent political posters.

[tvbound]

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So very true - yep. Just like Facebook / Twitter etc etc. Another format of biased censorship. Sad.
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Much sadder, are those that can't seem to understand the simple concept that a private business has the right to set rules/guidelines on their members - who are in no way mandated to join in the first place.

[Curtisbwp]

You should have stuck with village news

[DeanFL]

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!!!!! Here we go yet again!

Just this morning I opened a Thread re Trans athletes, copying a News article. The Mods moved it to Current Events, alerting me via PM. AOK. About 4pm or so today, I saw there were about 14 responses - providing input from various viewpoints. Fine.

Just checked to see what new posts may have said. Hmmm - Thread NOT THERE. Weird. Then I went into my profile Stats to check the Thread there. Nothing. It not only was apparently CLOSED, but DELETED from my stats. Gone, as if it never happened. This is NOT the first time this has occurred to some of my openedThreads.

OK - if it became political (why???) or there were personal sniping - close the Thread and indicate this as the last post and reason. But nope.

As usual, there is at least ONE MODERATOR who seems to have a vendetta.

So apparently we cannot have an adult conversation here on interesting an topical Current Events?

BTW, I have emailed and PMd Moderators at least 6 times prior to this for information. And every time - not a word back. It's futile to attempt to comm with some Mods.
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[Boomer]

Aw, gee. If it makes you (poster above) feel any better, I have been "corrected" and have had my posts deleted, too.

The reason I am telling you this is because I know darned good and well that we would disagree on many controversial issues. I usually do not bother to engage, but every now and then, I do.

But you will NEVER see me behaving like some whiny princess when I get dinged.

When I get into trouble, I know why. . .and I knew it going in. And so do you.

Also, I know I do not own the joint — but sometimes I sure wish I did.

Boomer

[Northwoods]

Aw, gee. If it makes you feel any better, I have been "corrected" and have had my posts deleted, too.

The reason I am telling you this is because I know darned good and well that we would disagree on many issues. . .

But you will NEVER see me behaving like some whiny princess.

When I get into trouble, I know why. . .and I knew it going in. . .and so do the usual complainers.

If I may reiterate: I might get into trouble sometimes, but you will NEVER see me whine and make demands. Geez. And also, I know I do not own the joint -- but sometimes I sure wish I did.

Boomer

I just wish they would tell posters why entire threads are deleted.
Months ago... national politics were forbidden but local politics were OK.
Now... there is a local news story about 2 commissioners being arrested. The most recent thread had 2 posts... the OP asked what was the latest news. An answer stated news reported in local news outlets... with a comment "should be interesting." No overtly negative comments. The thread was deleted. I just wish they would close the thread and state why it was closed.
Has their policy changed? Is local politics now forbidden?

[dewilson58]

Looks like my second thread on the County Jailbirds was deleted.

Not sure why.............it was just created last night...........didn't get nasty or political.

Hope the Mods will share some insights for all of us to understand.

:censored:

[golfing eagles]

Looks like my second thread on the County Jailbirds was deleted.

Not sure why.............it was just created last night...........didn't get nasty or political.

Hope the Mods will share some insights for all of us to understand.

:censored:

Maybe it's like the movie "Minority Report"----Certain threads may be deemed to have the potential to turn political.

[Bogie Shooter]

Maybe it's like the movie "Minority Report"----Certain threads may be deemed to have the potential to turn political.

That one was destined to end that way....

[DeanFL]

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If you actually read my post #55 - it was not simply deleting a POST - or rightfully closing a Thread - it's deleting an ENTIRE THREAD and removing any evidence that it existed. This is the 4th time this has happened. And each and every time, I have PM/emailed the Mods requesting an explanation and received ZIP back.

The point is, of course posts are deleted for many reasons, I guess. And there are many example of Mods closing a Thread and explaining why it was closed in the last post.

So Boom - no 'whining'. No 'accusations'. Simply offering the facts and requesting an explanation as to why? You may feel that we deserve no answers...I feel that as a 'customer' providing our thought and time and seeing advertisements here, it's only right to provide feedback. period.
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Aw, gee. If it makes you (poster above) feel any better, I have been "corrected" and have had my posts deleted, too.

The reason I am telling you this is because I know darned good and well that we would disagree on many controversial issues. I usually do not bother to engage, but every now and then, I do.

But you will NEVER see me behaving like some whiny princess when I get dinged.

When I get into trouble, I know why. . .and I knew it going in. And so do you.

I cannot imagine whining and making accusations and demands of the moderators — calling them on the carpet. Geez.

And, I also know I do not own the joint — but sometimes I sure wish I did.

Boomer

[PennBF]

We have been using TOTV for many years and it has always been fair and good at censoring those messages that violate the rules. I have been warned once and it was a reasonable and fair action by the Administrator as it was my fault for forgetting one of the rules of TOTV. In addition I was given a specific reason and it was right and I should have been alert to that subtle rule.:popcorn:

[Topspinmo]

Can someone explain how threads are closed? I posted a thread on predicting the Rittenhouse verdict and it was quite active with almost 250 postings - the most recent beings 2:47 pm today. The verdict is still outstanding but the thread was closed. I looked on the website but couldn’t find an answer. Does anyone know? Thanks.

I’ll take guess after few days they all get closed. Now we can argue of few?

[Boomer]

A “customer”? I don’t think of myself as a customer.

To me TOTV is just a place where they let me show up and write something because I feel like it. But sometimes they might not like what I feel like writing and they make it disappear. That goes with the territory. TOTV is not our personal stage. . .although there are times when it is theater.

I do not think of myself or my posts as important. Geez.

If the moderators were not on top of things here, this place would turn into just another political echo chamber. I am happy they keep a lid on it.

As far as “owing” explanations goes. . .nope. . .

Why? Because certain threads are started as political bait — and the poster knows it. Also, the exchange would be never-ending because of the tenacity of the complainer. . .

And, to that point, it’s time for me to stop. I know better than to continue to engage in this one.

Boomer