THE VILLIAGES IS NOT THE PLACE TO Retire If You Don't Want a Car OR ARE NOT ABLE TO

[joelfmi]

Drive,or be on top of your neighbors home, very high monthly frees, don't play golf, cannot stand the heat, very far from malls, alot of traffic in season, renter, not gated communities, restrictions,. Otherwise go their. These are things that you will never here but are very impotant when you buy and home.

[Bjeanj]

First of all, spellcheck is your friend. Secondly, you’re right. The Villages is not for everyone. Third, yes, it’s hot and humid. That’s what Florida weather is like.

I hope you find someplace that suits you.

[Papa_lecki]

Drive,or be on top of your neighbors home, very high monthly frees, don't play golf, cannot stand the heat, very far from malls, alot of traffic in season, renter, not gated communities, restrictions,. Otherwise go their. These are things that you will never here but are very impotant when you buy and home.

Not even going to address the other points (I am sure others will) BUT
If you don’t golf and can’t stand the heat, what made you think you would enjoy living in the largest golf course community in the world in a hot climate?

[vintageogauge]

Drive,or be on top of your neighbors home, very high monthly frees, don't play golf, cannot stand the heat, very far from malls, alot of traffic in season, renter, not gated communities, restrictions,. Otherwise go their. These are things that you will never here but are very impotant when you buy and home.

If you are unable to drive and don't have a car what is your problem with in season traffic? Monthly fees are not high, you should be glad you're not part of an HOA, the only restrictions here are the ones noted on your deed and if you are a homeowner you were given a copy before you signed the papers and now that you're leaving you will make a handsome profit on your home. If you are not a homeowner and are a renter, don't complain, just pack up and go somewhere else when your lease is up. Now go out and enjoy this great autumn weather while those up north are complaining about the snow and cold.

[golfing eagles]

Drive,or be on top of your neighbors home, very high monthly frees, don't play golf, cannot stand the heat, very far from malls, alot of traffic in season, renter, not gated communities, restrictions,. Otherwise go their. These are things that you will never here but are very impotant when you buy and home.

You mean like most places in Florida?????

Except.......most places in Florida you need to drive to almost everything you need, in TV you can get to most places by golf cart

most places in Florida have HOA fees that range from $450 to over $800 per month, here it is about $160.

most places in Florida have traffic far worse than here in TV

Most places in Florida have deed and or HOA restrictions

The only part of that rant that was posted that is true is that TV is not a true gated community---you can live in one but your monthly fee will be in the $800+ range. Oh, did I mention that those gated communities generally have ONE golf course, ONE clubhouse, and all activities are limited to whatever is being run at that clubhouse. For our $160 amenity fee we get 42 executive golf courses, and 13 "championship" courses are here for a greens fee. Over 100 pools, 100 recreation centers of various types and sizes, over 100 miles of MMPs with new dedicated bike and pedestrian paths south of 44, and flowers in the RB's changed out 4x/year. As far as our gates go, they are mainly for traffic control, but they have cameras 24/7 and community watch drives by every house in TV a minimum of 3x/day.

If you truly want to avoid everything you listed and live in Florida, may I suggest the middle of the Everglades. Just watch out for 20 foot snakes. But you still have the heat, so the other choice might be Fairbanks , Alaska.

[dewilson58]

Drive,or be on top of your neighbors home, very high monthly frees, don't play golf, cannot stand the heat, very far from malls, alot of traffic in season, renter, not gated communities, restrictions,. Otherwise go their. These are things that you will never here but are very impotant when you buy and home.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
But yet you still hang out on ToTV for over a year.
:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Laker14]

Drive,or be on top of your neighbors home, very high monthly frees, don't play golf, cannot stand the heat, very far from malls, alot of traffic in season, renter, not gated communities, restrictions,. Otherwise go their. These are things that you will never here but are very impotant when you buy and home.

So....please tell us...what place provides all of those things that TV does not provide, and has better weather, is fully gated, close to malls (do they still have malls?), low traffic in season, and you don't need a car, all, of course, with monthly fees lower than TV.

I have attempted to deconstruct your sentence in an effort to figure out exactly what the word "renter" is communicating. I am clueless. Perhaps you could explain a bit about "renter"?

[golfing eagles]

So....please tell us...what place provides all of those things that TV does not provide, and has better weather, is fully gated, close to malls (do they still have malls?), low traffic in season, and you don't need a car, all, of course, with monthly fees lower than TV.

I have attempted to deconstruct your sentence in an effort to figure out exactly what the word "renter" is communicating. I am clueless. Perhaps you could explain a bit about "renter"?

The real question is whether or not "very high monthly frees" is an oxymoron.

[SGR720]

Drive,or be on top of your neighbors home, very high monthly frees, don't play golf, cannot stand the heat, very far from malls, alot of traffic in season, renter, not gated communities, restrictions,. Otherwise go their. These are things that you will never here but are very impotant when you buy and home.

Probably just trolling to get a reaction but I'll respond any way.

That's why you do research before you buy anywhere in any state. Most of the things you list as objectionable about The Villages are true for most planned developments in Florida. Not being able to drive or want to own a car is not a drawback here I have friends who don't drive or own a car but have a golf cart that allows them to go anywhere in the Villages. Don't play golf - there are hundreds of clubs for almost any interest. Far from malls - if you're talking mega malls so is every home outside of the Villages in Lady Lake, Fruitland Park, Summerfield, Wildwood. Traffic - same everywhere in Florida in season and in many places all year. Not gate communities - the Marion County portion of the Villages is gated you can't just push a button to get in. However, as I understand it the home owners in those villages are responsible for road maintenance while the Sumter County portion roads are maintained by the county. Restrictions - every gated community in Florida has them and so do many counties. Many are more restrictive than the Villages. High fees - many places are higher without the amenities we have. Be on top of your neighbor - the property I have here is exactly the same size I had in Long Island but house is bigger. Renter - there are rental units here both apartments and houses. And the big one "cannot stand the heat" - it's Florida if you don't want heat move to a far northern state cause the heat is here to stay.

Been here 20 years don't love everything about it but the good outweighs the bad.

[Bogie Shooter]

Goodby Joe.

[spd2918]

This isn't an airport. You don't have to announce your departure.

[MrFlorida]

Wow, somebody didn't do their homework before committing. But fear not, It's a big country to move around in.

[golfing eagles]

Goodby Joe.

I must be missing something. Did he say anywhere in his post that he was leaving????

[JMintzer]

I must be missing something. Did he say anywhere in his post that he was leaving????

A girl can hope... :1rotfl:

[dewilson58]

This isn't an airport. You don't have to announce your departure.

:1rotfl::1rotfl:

Now that is funny!!

:1rotfl::1rotfl:

[dewilson58]

The real question is whether or not "very high monthly frees" is an oxymoron.

Drop the oxy & you'll have it right.

[KAM+6]

Goodby Joe.

Me o my o

[Carla B]

I'm pretty sure the OP doesn't live here nor does he want to live here. He's just listing reasons not to move here from Long Island, NY. Probably he's never even been here. I think his "knowledge" has been formed from reading complaints about this or that on TOTV.

Take the climate. We find the climate here to be preferable to that of south Texas, where it is extremely hot and humid in the summer and can be extremely cold and damp in the winter. Notice to OP: Some people like hot weather.

[Laker14]

The real question is whether or not "very high monthly frees" is an oxymoron.

Now I'm really pi$$ed. I have been missing out on the monthly "frees"....Unless you count BOGOs at Winn Dixie.

[Laker14]

I'm pretty sure the OP doesn't live here nor does he want to live here. He's just listing reasons not to move here from Long Island, NY. Probably he's never even been here. I think his "knowledge" has been formed from reading complaints about this or that on TOTV.

Take the climate. We find the climate here to be preferable to that of south Texas, where it is extremely hot and humid in the summer and can be extremely cold and damp in the winter. Notice to OP: Some people like hot weather.

My theory is that OP wants very much to live here. But he ( my theory is that OP is a he. Hey, it's my theory, and it can be sexist if it wants to be) gambled on property values going down, and scooping up a bargain, and now finds his dreams left in the dust.
That's my theory and I'm sticking to it, unless he wants to rejoin his conversation and explain further.

[billethkid]

Sounds like a bored baiter to me.

Your minority report is duly noted!

[Bilyclub]

Drink much? That's one of the few things OP left off his post.

[frose]

you got that right

[frose]

wish i had been given a copy of all the crap you can't do in this dump

[Laker14]

wish i had been given a copy of all the crap you can't do in this dump

What things do you wish you could do that you can't do.

Your knowledge could help someone else from making the same mistake you made.

[EdFNJ]

First of the month. Time to get more forum traffic for advertising rates. Everyone falls for the troll. Next troll topic will be "Does Costco sell dog poop bags to the 2 ladies in a golf cart with a clipboard who just got back from Trader Joe's on the way home to their home down by the noisy FL Turnpike but they want to move in to the apartments hopefully over Chico's Ladies Store in Spanish Springs after the Morse Family sells out to the crazy dancing guy with the kerchief !"

:1rotfl:

[Laker14]

First of the month. Time to get more forum traffic for advertising rates. Everyone falls for the troll. Next troll topic will be "Does Costco sell dog poop bags to the 2 ladies in a golf cart with a clipboard who just got back from Trader Joe's on the way home to their home down by the noisy FL Turnpike but they want to move in to the apartments hopefully over Chico's Ladies Store in Spanish Springs after the Morse Family sells out to the crazy dancing guy with the kerchief !"

:1rotfl:

you can't slip in a reference to Katie Belle's somewhere?

[DARFAP]

Did you study spelling in grade school? And why the yelling?

[walterray1]

Drive,or be on top of your neighbors home, very high monthly frees, don't play golf, cannot stand the heat, very far from malls, alot of traffic in season, renter, not gated communities, restrictions,. Otherwise go their. These are things that you will never here but are very impotant when you buy and home.

just plain stupid.

[Michael G.]

If there ever was a post that should be taken down, it should be this one.

[davem4616]

now this is the type of entertainment that I've been missing on this chat box :a040::a040::a040:

[Kenswing]

I just can't imagine living in a place I hate.

[manaboutown]

Troll

[Garywt]

The real question is whether or not "very high monthly frees" is an oxymoron.
I want to get in on the monthly frees.

[dadspet]

Poster forgot to mention "Above all don't drink the water" It not even a secret > The Villages puts something in the water that makes "almost" everyone living here thinking its the best place on earth, why didn't we move here sooner. I've heard its something called H20 and they offer you a free bottle if you visit one of the many information centers. Don't even think about accepting one and trying it. Believe me it turns out to be very expensive, but most agree worth it. :icon_wink::icon_wink:

[Garywt]

So could you not get in or did you have to leave. You won’t win your argument here. Car is not needed as all shopping can be done by cart or online. Fees are great, people are great and there is plenty to do if you don’t golf. Life is too short to be so negative. And if you want to see traffic go up to Boston or New York.

[patfla06]

Drive,or be on top of your neighbors home, very high monthly frees, don't play golf, cannot stand the heat, very far from malls, alot of traffic in season, renter, not gated communities, restrictions,. Otherwise go their. These are things that you will never here but are very impotant when you buy and home.

I think it’s ironic you complain about traffic coming from Long Island. :ohdear:

[villageuser]

I moved here because my parents lived here and i wanted to be close to them physically to help them out. My dad passed away and my mother is at a local nursing home so i continue to live here. I love my home but other than that, I am in complete agreement with what the initial writer posted. I dream of the day I can get out of here. The posters who say this place is not an HOA crack me up. Call it amenity fees or HOA fees it’s the same thing. You have rules and regulations everywhere. For all practical purposes, it’s an HOA. And selling your home and making money. That’s funny, too. Maybe at the present time because home prices have gone up. But the focus here is in selling new homes and not your older home. However, i am happy for the people who love it here. Good for you! You found your spot. Someday i hope to find mine, too.

[GOLFER54]

I believe Siberia is pleasant this time of year.

[thevillages2013]

Drive,or be on top of your neighbors home, very high monthly frees, don't play golf, cannot stand the heat, very far from malls, alot of traffic in season, renter, not gated communities, restrictions,. Otherwise go their. These are things that you will never here but are very impotant when you buy and home.
I have never been on top of any of my neighbor’s homes. I have been on top of mine a few times to look at the roofing and vents. :boxing2:

[Two Bills]

Next!

[skippy05]

Since the 80's, who uses, cares, or could even find a viable Shopping Mall? Most Malls, if they still exist, are junk flea market-type vendors, shoe stores, vape shops/tattoo parlors, and a strange food court. However, if a shopping Mall and affordability is what you desire: Check out the 55+ mobile home park "Lakes at Leesburg". It is right next door to the run-down Lake Square Mall and you'll find everything air-conditioned and affordable. You can even ride your Golf cart to Home Depot. Also, Steak and Shake is right across the street with the value meal list of "under $5 meal deals".

[bowlingal]

Drive,or be on top of your neighbors home, very high monthly frees, don't play golf, cannot stand the heat, very far from malls, alot of traffic in season, renter, not gated communities, restrictions,. Otherwise go their. These are things that you will never here but are very impotant when you buy and home.


WOW...on top of all that bitching, you need a lesson in spelling and english! There, not their.....important not impotant......fees not frees....a lot not alot

[DaleDivine]

The real question is whether or not "very high monthly frees" is an oxymoron.

Me thinks the OP MORON is a little high on OXY...
:MOJE_whot::a040::ohdear:

[DaleDivine]

I moved here because my parents lived here and i wanted to be close to them physically to help them out. My dad passed away and my mother is at a local nursing home so i continue to live here. I love my home but other than that, I am in complete agreement with what the initial writer posted. I dream of the day I can get out of here. The posters who say this place is not an HOA crack me up. Call it amenity fees or HOA fees it’s the same thing. You have rules and regulations everywhere. For all practical purposes, it’s an HOA. And selling your home and making money. That’s funny, too. Maybe at the present time because home prices have gone up. But the focus here is in selling new homes and not your older home. However, i am happy for the people who love it here. Good for you! You found your spot. Someday i hope to find mine, too.

Soooo, there are nursing homes all over the world you can put your mother in. Yet you love living in this "miserable" place or you would have already left. I love it here. No better place comes close to TV...

:bigbow::bigbow:

[Tuly914]

Perhaps maybe Joe was talking about a person he knows in TV that was complaining? Nowhere did he mention he was moving. Secondly, a week today everyone was sitting at their Thanksgiving table giving thanks. How can one give Thanks, then be so cruel the next week. There is no need to make fun of someone. And for the comments of the spelling, Hello, it could happen when using your cell phone keyboard. Why is it so hard to be nice but so easy to be cruel to another human being...

[golfing eagles]

I moved here because my parents lived here and i wanted to be close to them physically to help them out. My dad passed away and my mother is at a local nursing home so i continue to live here. I love my home but other than that, I am in complete agreement with what the initial writer posted. I dream of the day I can get out of here. The posters who say this place is not an HOA crack me up. Call it amenity fees or HOA fees it’s the same thing. You have rules and regulations everywhere. For all practical purposes, it’s an HOA. And selling your home and making money. That’s funny, too. Maybe at the present time because home prices have gone up. But the focus here is in selling new homes and not your older home. However, i am happy for the people who love it here. Good for you! You found your spot. Someday i hope to find mine, too.

Some people have difficulty with reality testing.

PS: January 1st 2010 saw 40,627 new laws on the books in the USA
40,000 Laws going into effect on one New Year’s Day, makes you wonder how many laws there are on the books in this country. Good luck avoiding the "rules", might I suggest the "Village of Anarchy"?:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[barbnick]

Been here 10 years and there is no place I would rather be.

[tallmanf]

My wife and I say everyday “ We are so lucky to live here!” Please enjoy what is left of your life. If this isn’t the place for you. There are plenty of other places to go. Don’t like the traffic, try country living where everything is at least 20 miles away and so on.

[BlueStarAirlines]

I did a lot of researching before deciding on TV, so can offer one solution if unhappy here. If shopping is important...like one of the most important things...Lakewood Ranch is the place to move to. Like TV, they also have "villages" that make up LR with two of them being 55+. Right outside LR on University Drive there is a massive amount of shopping to include a mall. There is also a Total Wine store, which was pretty impressive. One exit north of LR is a Costco. As an added bonus, all "villages" are truly gated.

For me, there were several negatives. First, non golf-cart community, so everything involves driving. It's a fairly big development, so there is a lot of driving! The HOA fees were a downside and seemed to be starting at $550 a month (amount depended on the "village"). The two 55+ developments were not all that nice had had minimal clubs and activities. The LR focus really is on families.

All that being said, if all you want is shopping and gated communities it's probably your best choice.

[Bethwill]

Thanks, Mr. OBVIOUS. You might want to use your Spell Check.

[Pupiczech]

Spell check is not the problem. Grammar check has yet to be invented.

[MidWestIA]

You forgot it is VERY isolated and - this many old people driving around in golf carts makes alot of cliques - really it's like high school. Almost everyone is not working for a living so it is alot like it was in high school.

[Luggage]

Funny my hoa fee is $217 and I get free internet 300 channels on my TV etc. You must be thinking of those high price condos in Miami. Yes the villages is not for people who don't drive or know how to use a golf cart but there are about 20 Senior communities in the area and almost all of them have hundreds of clubs to join to meet new people and that's probably the number one advantage of being in a community like ours or yours or theirs

[WesMan]

Drive,or be on top of your neighbors home, very high monthly frees, don't play golf, cannot stand the heat, very far from malls, alot of traffic in season, renter, not gated communities, restrictions,. Otherwise go their. These are things that you will never here but are very impotant when you buy and home.

Leave and stop complaining!!

[Kgcetm]

I guess I really don't understand your point. Why would you be here and not know those things. The mind must have a process.

[Driver8]

We're in the sub tropics dude. What did you expect, San Diego weather?

[terenceanne]

May I suggest Portland, New York or Chicago as much better places to live - Just saying.

[MrFlorida]

If you don't like it here, then you will not like it anywhere.....some people you just can't please. Let us know where you live, and we'll help you pack.

[Joe C.]

No matter where you live, there is a plus and a minus to many aspects. Weather too hot or too cold, too much traffic or too far to the shopping centers, high taxes or not enough public services. Take your pick.....there's no perfect place to live. If I didn't want a good place for my wife to live, I'd opt for somewhere other than TV to live. But she likes it, so I won't complain.

[rsmurano]

It was very hard to decipher the rant. If you can’t drive, assisted living is your next option.

[Goinghiway]

headed back for the good Heat....:bigbow:

[Dgodin]

Drive,or be on top of your neighbors home, very high monthly frees, don't play golf, cannot stand the heat, very far from malls, alot of traffic in season, renter, not gated communities, restrictions,. Otherwise go their. These are things that you will never here but are very impotant when you buy and home.

I live in the villages and could easily live here without a car. There are 5 golf car accessible grocery stores near us. We are involved in many activities besides golf. I have heard only 50% of residents play golf. Softball is very popular. The fees are very reasonable compared to other communities.
The heat is part of being in Florida. We found we could acclimate by spending time outside and NOT using the A/C in the car.
Hope you find a place you like.

[KAM+6]

Yesterday I had a chance to read previous posts of the OP. It seem s that he does not live in TV. He lives in a condo in the NY and paying$550 condo fees. Does not drive and is looking for a woman, one that can drive. Said he would never buy in TV

[Cherstubbs]

The beauty of life … we have choice!

[Shirleyq]

I have lived in The Villages for 7 yrs & love it. I don't have a car but I do have two golf carts. One is a convertible. Yes there are a couple of places I can't get to by cart so I take UBER/ LYFT. I may spend up to $100 per month on the taxi's. Consider what a car costs. So-So So many activities here, I have never found any place to compare. If you know of one please let me know. I'm up for a second home/condo.

[OhioBuckeye]

First of all, spellcheck is your friend. Secondly, you’re right. The Villages is not for everyone. Third, yes, it’s hot and humid. That’s what Florida weather is like.

I hope you find someplace that suits you.

Bjeanj- we lived in TV for 8 yrs. then moved to Texas for a reason that suits us. Believe me summers in Texas are a heck of a lot hotter than TV. We had 2+ weeks of 110 degrees & very seldom got less than 90. But from Nov. thru Mar. it’s cold to jacket weather. This is just my opinion, everybody is different about hot, warm or cold weather!

[ThirdOfFive]

Drive,or be on top of your neighbors home, very high monthly frees, don't play golf, cannot stand the heat, very far from malls, alot of traffic in season, renter, not gated communities, restrictions,. Otherwise go their. These are things that you will never here but are very impotant when you buy and home.
Well, as Mom used to say when we complained; "you'd b_tch if you were hung with a new rope". Never really did figure out what that meant. But to each his own, I guess.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

I don’t play golf . I’ve only been in rec centers to vote and haven’t been in one of the pools for more years then I can count , but I do love the beauty and order of the place , the Sharon , the squares and so many other things and if you want a big mall , I’m headed to one this afternoon theMall of Millenia in Orlando to shop for presents and clothes for me that I don’t need lol about 45 minutes on a str8 road

[JMintzer]

Well, as Mom used to say when we complained; "you'd b_tch if you were hung with a new rope". Never really did figure out what that meant. But to each his own, I guess.

New rope can be very scratchy on the skin...

They can leave a nasty rope burn... :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[irishwonone]

Drive,or be on top of your neighbors home, very high monthly frees, don't play golf, cannot stand the heat, very far from malls, alot of traffic in season, renter, not gated communities, restrictions,. Otherwise go their. These are things that you will never here but are very impotant when you buy and home.
Come on man….tell us what’s really bothering you?😩

[Bogie Shooter]

Drive,or be on top of your neighbors home, very high monthly frees, don't play golf, cannot stand the heat, very far from malls, alot of traffic in season, renter, not gated communities, restrictions,. Otherwise go their. These are things that you will never here but are very impotant when you buy and home.

Come on man….tell us what’s really bothering you?😩

It's a long list......check out previous posts.:ohdear:

[Fred2016]

Low traffic in season? I don't think so. Also, if you think an eighty old person with a paper stop sign makes the villages gated, you must be not paying attention

[john1006]

Joe, this is easy, instead of telling us what you don't like, just don't live here.

[KAM+6]

Joe, this is easy, instead of telling us what you don't like, just don't live here.

He doesn't live here ,never has and said he would never buy here. I think he is just trolling.

[Bjeanj]

Bjeanj- we lived in TV for 8 yrs. then moved to Texas for a reason that suits us. Believe me summers in Texas are a heck of a lot hotter than TV. We had 2+ weeks of 110 degrees & very seldom got less than 90. But from Nov. thru Mar. it’s cold to jacket weather. This is just my opinion, everybody is different about hot, warm or cold weather!

Holy smokes! That is really hot!

So you don’t live here anymore?

[Bridget Staunton]

It’s Xmas, people should be kind to each other instead of rude. Sometimes neighbors want to say what is in their mind and we need to be gentle in the reply. They may be very elderly

[skyking]

?????
"villiages" vs. Villages
"frees" vs. fees
"Alot" vs. a lot
"their" vs. there
"here" vs. hear
"impotent" vs. important
"and home" vs. a home

It is very hard to take your criticism seriously when you have less than a third grade education.

[Bilyclub]

It’s Xmas, people should be kind to each other instead of rude. Sometimes neighbors want to say what is in their mind and we need to be gentle in the reply. They may be very elderly

We are all elderly. When you post gibberish this is what happens.

[Laker14]

I have lived in The Villages for 7 yrs & love it. I don't have a car but I do have two golf carts. One is a convertible. Yes there are a couple of places I can't get to by cart so I take UBER/ LYFT. I may spend up to $100 per month on the taxi's. Consider what a car costs. So-So So many activities here, I have never found any place to compare. If you know of one please let me know. I'm up for a second home/condo.

Bingo!! It's not the way I do it, but it makes a lot more sense than the way I do it.:)

[jimkerr]

Drive,or be on top of your neighbors home, very high monthly frees, don't play golf, cannot stand the heat, very far from malls, alot of traffic in season, renter, not gated communities, restrictions,. Otherwise go their. These are things that you will never here but are very impotant when you buy and home.

What? Our fees are very low here. All of your complaints are ridiculous.

[DAVES]

Drive,or be on top of your neighbors home, very high monthly frees, don't play golf, cannot stand the heat, very far from malls, alot of traffic in season, renter, not gated communities, restrictions,. Otherwise go their. These are things that you will never here but are very impotant when you buy and home.

I wonder why people post this kind of stuff. If, the villages it is not right for you, I truly hope you will find something more suited to your needs are happy.

If, you don't drive and don't like the heat. There are many places you might like better.
A city will offer more public transit. New York City is great for that. New York City does get hot in the summer and there is snow.

Assuming you are retired, The world is your oyster. Be happy in it where ever you choose.

[DAVES]

Yesterday I had a chance to read previous posts of the OP. It seem s that he does not live in TV. He lives in a condo in the NY and paying$550 condo fees. Does not drive and is looking for a woman, one that can drive. Said he would never buy in TV

I do not doubt what you say. I placed a post that they might like New York City that has a fine public transportation, probably one of the best in the world. Sadly he/she/it is a miserable person who needs to leave a post, for what purpose?

I truly wish them well. Well, away from me.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

So we have a really badly written, very negative post. Followed by how many pages of dogpiling on the person who posted it?

"Florida's Friendliest Hometown" my left butt-cheek.

[Bellavita]

First I am sorry you are impotant, and remember if things are free it us a good thing, I live here but never get on top of my neighbors home. Perhaps you got tipsy one night or two.My father in law used to say if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen, but were you in the kitchen when you wrote this? I totally misunderstood go their , like to their house or what? Thank God you wrote this eloquent letter to warn the world about the issues as it relates to home ownership in The Villages. You sound like quite the expert.


Drive,or be on top of your neighbors home, very high monthly frees, don't play golf, cannot stand the heat, very far from malls, alot of traffic in season, renter, not gated communities, restrictions,. Otherwise go their. These are things that you will never here but are very impotant when you buy and home.

[Pachine58]

I have a car but never drive it. Everything I need is available via my golf cart. Maybe you live in wrong area.

[DrBrutyle109]

Drive,or be on top of your neighbors home, very high monthly frees, don't play golf, cannot stand the heat, very far from malls, alot of traffic in season, renter, not gated communities, restrictions,. Otherwise go their. These are things that you will never here but are very impotant when you buy and home.
I’m gonna answer with a famous Judge Judy quote
Your an adult, if you don’t like where you are

MOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[CODYCAT]

Drive,or be on top of your neighbors home, very high monthly frees, don't play golf, cannot stand the heat, very far from malls, alot of traffic in season, renter, not gated communities, restrictions,. Otherwise go their. These are things that you will never here but are very impotant when you buy and home.

All those things you can see when you visit. If you don't want that why would you think about moving here????????

[nick demis]

If you hate everything about The Villages, why are you wasting your time on this site?

[Sunflower1]

First of all, spellcheck is your friend. Secondly, you’re right. The Villages is not for everyone. Third, yes, it’s hot and humid. That’s what Florida weather is like.

I hope you find someplace that suits you.

I think this might be a case of the original poster drinking and typing. 😀

[Villages Kahuna]

Drive,or be on top of your neighbors home, very high monthly frees, don't play golf, cannot stand the heat, very far from malls, alot of traffic in season, renter, not gated communities, restrictions,. Otherwise go their. These are things that you will never here but are very impotant when you buy and home.

Great you identified your complaints and unhappiness before you bought a house here. Now you can search for a place that will make you happy. Hopefully it’s a long way from The Villages so you don’t suffer even a twang of unhappiness… a long, long way away!

[merrymini]

Sometimes I do not think this stuff is worth reading but, today, it was good for a laugh.

[Papa_lecki]

Sometimes I do not think this stuff is worth reading but, today, it was good for a laugh.

I’m with you. You know reading the thread will be a train wreck, but you laugh the whole time, then take time to respond to the thread.

[daveczo]

Drive,or be on top of your neighbors home, very high monthly frees, don't play golf, cannot stand the heat, very far from malls, alot of traffic in season, renter, not gated communities, restrictions,. Otherwise go their. These are things that you will never here but are very impotant when you buy and home.

Don't let the door hit you in your butt on your way out, Buh bye!

[amexsbow]

If you don't like the villages " Lets go Joe"

[DAVES]

I think it’s ironic you complain about traffic coming from Long Island. :ohdear:

Been there, done that. They finally took down the temporary ten cent toll on the Southern State years after it was supposed to end. It was not only slowing traffic but it cost more to collect it than it brought in. That connects to the Belt Parkway, they have been repairing it for the past 50 years. Hope of them finishing it-zero. Traffic? How about taxes?

Real Estate? Prices are sky rocketing in Florida. People in NY are running from the crime.
You can get some great deals in Upstate NY.

[DAVES]

I moved here because my parents lived here and i wanted to be close to them physically to help them out. My dad passed away and my mother is at a local nursing home so i continue to live here. I love my home but other than that, I am in complete agreement with what the initial writer posted. I dream of the day I can get out of here. The posters who say this place is not an HOA crack me up. Call it amenity fees or HOA fees it’s the same thing. You have rules and regulations everywhere. For all practical purposes, it’s an HOA. And selling your home and making money. That’s funny, too. Maybe at the present time because home prices have gone up. But the focus here is in selling new homes and not your older home. However, i am happy for the people who love it here. Good for you! You found your spot. Someday i hope to find mine, too.

Reality, we can chose to be happy or miserable anywhere. It is a choice. Re: Older home vs new home. Assuming you have an older home, it is worth far more than you paid for it. I'm no cockeyed optimist but some look at a lawn and see the weeds others see the flowers-it is a choice. It is the same lawn.

[DAVES]

?????
"villiages" vs. Villages
"frees" vs. fees
"Alot" vs. a lot
"their" vs. there
"here" vs. hear
"impotent" vs. important
"and home" vs. a home

It is very hard to take your criticism seriously when you have less than a third grade education.

Whatever happens to the class nerd, as they age?

[DAVES]

Well, as Mom used to say when we complained; "you'd b_tch if you were hung with a new rope". Never really did figure out what that meant. But to each his own, I guess.

I've never heard that one before. But, it is a good one. Rope used to be made from natural fiber. Usually hemp, same as marijuana. In any case when, new it is hard and scratchy.
A well used rope would be far softer. With either you would end up dead from a hanging but, at least a used rope would not irritate your neck as much. Do not antagonize the hangman is also sage advice. Perhaps, delivered before a good discussion before an application of a belt. We did not have cell phones or child protection services and there was far less crime.

[rockyhyder]

You’re right TV is not for everyone. Seems like you miss Long Island, if that’s where you’re happiest go there. The rest of us will stay here and enjoy all those things you don’t like 👍.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Poster forgot to mention "Above all don't drink the water" It not even a secret > The Villages puts something in the water that makes "almost" everyone living here thinking its the best place on earth, why didn't we move here sooner. I've heard its something called H20 and they offer you a free bottle if you visit one of the many information centers. Don't even think about accepting one and trying it. Believe me it turns out to be very expensive, but most agree worth it. :icon_wink::icon_wink: they offered me lots of water ,so much that I’ve bought and sold 6 houses here and no complaints about anything

[DAVES]

Some people have difficulty with reality testing.

PS: January 1st 2010 saw 40,627 new laws on the books in the USA
40,000 Laws going into effect on one New Year’s Day, makes you wonder how many laws there are on the books in this country. Good luck avoiding the "rules", might I suggest the "Village of Anarchy"?:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

I've read our federal tax law is 86,000 pages.

Rules, years ago I got a printed copy of the New York ticket code. I don't recall why I requested it. Likely fighting yet another ticket. Some that I remember, not sure if it is also true in Florida but I expect it is. You cannot leave your car in the same place for 24 hours, that is storing your car on the street. If, you look hard enough, you will likely have a mark on your windshield from a pebble. They can ticket you for that. Hanging junk from your mirror is also illegal. So is driving barefoot. Sort of makes me wonder. If, you have a sunpass, can they claim it blocks your vision.

You can and should claim some of these things are an abuse of power.

[DAVES]

Soooo, there are nursing homes all over the world you can put your mother in. Yet you love living in this "miserable" place or you would have already left. I love it here. No better place comes close to TV...

:bigbow::bigbow:

That is very unfair of you. You do not know what the poster is dealing with. People in a nursing home probably will not accept moving to another place. Hopefully you have no idea what it is like to watch a parent turn into a ?????????

[FloridaLady]

I do not golf (did try it 2x) and I don’t like the heat however I hate the cold more. I moved from the NE. There is still a lot to do here and I am so glad to own and live here full time. In a few years when I retire I hope to do more and maybe that will include golf.

[Bogie Shooter]

I've never heard that one before. But, it is a good one. Rope used to be made from natural fiber. Usually hemp, same as marijuana. In any case when, new it is hard and scratchy.
A well used rope would be far softer. With either you would end up dead from a hanging but, at least a used rope would not irritate your neck as much. Do not antagonize the hangman is also sage advice. Perhaps, delivered before a good discussion before an application of a belt. We did not have cell phones or child protection services and there was far less crime.
Information overload.

[HJBeck]

Agree, don't move here.

[joelfmi]

longer to drive. Being a senior community why can they have free travel or paid community travel to different rec. center, shopping, doctor appointments The amenities fees that they charge can be included in their fees. This is a Hugh draw back for seniors over 75 years old. If they did this myself then housand of other seniors would consider buying there. This is my opinions please respect my opinion.

[golfing eagles]

longer to drive. Being a senior community why can they have free travel or paid community travel to different rec. center, shopping, doctor appointments The amenities fees that they charge can be included in their fees. This is a Hugh draw back for seniors over 75 years old. If they did this myself then housand of other seniors would consider buying there. This is my opinions please respect my opinion.

OK, consider your opinion "respected".

However, just what kind of transportation is "free"---there are drivers, vehicles, maintenance and gas that all cost money. Include it in the amenity fee? Why should I pay for someone else's transportation? There are multiple transportation options inside the villages, and I don't see it as a huge? drawback, and I doubt "thousands" of other would either. Besides, where else can an over 75 senior live that includes "free" transportation other than an all inclusive facility, usually an apartment building with a concierge at a pretty high monthly rent.

[manaboutown]

longer to drive. Being a senior community why can they have free travel or paid community travel to different rec. center, shopping, doctor appointments The amenities fees that they charge can be included in their fees. This is a Hugh draw back for seniors over 75 years old. If they did this myself then housand of other seniors would consider buying there. This is my opinions please respect my opinion.

May you find your "happy place".

[Bilyclub]

longer to drive. Being a senior community why can they have free travel or paid community travel to different rec. center, shopping, doctor appointments The amenities fees that they charge can be included in their fees. This is a Hugh draw back for seniors over 75 years old. If they did this myself then housand of other seniors would consider buying there. This is my opinions please respect my opinion.

It's called Uber or Lyft in most places and there is a per ride charge. There are persons here who will drive you places in TV but it's never going to be free.
I am curious about the following: Do you live in TV? If you don't, why do you post here and why are most of your posts critical of where we live?

[Topspinmo]

Not even going to address the other points (I am sure others will) BUT
If you don’t golf and can’t stand the heat, what made you think you would enjoy living in the largest golf course community in the world in a hot climate?


Not everyone golfs here and everyone not good golfers.

[Topspinmo]

First of all, spellcheck is your friend. Secondly, you’re right. The Villages is not for everyone. Third, yes, it’s hot and humid. That’s what Florida weather is like.

I hope you find someplace that suits you.

So, you saying you can’t comprehend it? Or you just like feeling superior.

[Topspinmo]

Drink much? That's one of the few things OP left off his post.

Not close, didn’t mention dogs, dog poop, single lane roundabouts, speeders, divot repair, developers to name few.

[Rodneysblue]

Drive,or be on top of your neighbors home, very high monthly frees, don't play golf, cannot stand the heat, very far from malls, alot of traffic in season, renter, not gated communities, restrictions,. Otherwise go their. These are things that you will never here but are very impotant when you buy and home.

So I guess you are NOT an educated consumer. Most smart people do research on an area that they are looking to move to and get credible information on the area. I for one researched The Villages online for over a year. Then on a visit to relatives in Orlando we drove up to TV and did a quick tour for a couple of days to see if it was worth a Lifestyle Visit, and it was. We then scheduled a Lifestyle visit during the off season and then again during high season to gage different things like traffic. Then one more visit in a non Lifestyle Visit rental home and rented a golf cart also too. check out even more thing like what type of home and where. Went home and talked about it, decided yes this is it. Knowing what we wanted and having a good working relationship with our agent we watch online and purchased a home by phone/internet/agent. But we were prepared and extremely happy.Thanks to Gerry Andrews!

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

longer to drive. Being a senior community why can they have free travel or paid community travel to different rec. center, shopping, doctor appointments The amenities fees that they charge can be included in their fees. This is a Hugh draw back for seniors over 75 years old. If they did this myself then housand of other seniors would consider buying there. This is my opinions please respect my opinion.

I agree with your idea, but not for that reason or with that methodology. I'm 100% in favor of some sort of community-based "public transportation" system. I've posted as such previously. Not amenity-fee (though perhaps a % of all amenity fees collected could go toward the initial purchase of an office, garage, and vehicles) based. More like a public tram system where trams will stop at rec centers to pick up and drop off passengers, and make a stop at one (or two) of the town squares, and one (or two, or three) shopping/medical centers.

Maybe with a paid monthly pass, paid unlimited day-pass, and paid 3-day passes for visitors. Could even have seasonal passes, or yearly passes. No "senior discount" because it'd be assumed the passenger is a senior.

The passes would be directly connected to your Villager ID or visitor's ID pass. Scan and board, easy peasy.

[golfing eagles]

I agree with your idea, but not for that reason or with that methodology. I'm 100% in favor of some sort of community-based "public transportation" system. I've posted as such previously. Not amenity-fee (though perhaps a % of all amenity fees collected could go toward the initial purchase of an office, garage, and vehicles) based. More like a public tram system where trams will stop at rec centers to pick up and drop off passengers, and make a stop at one (or two) of the town squares, and one (or two, or three) shopping/medical centers.

Maybe with a paid monthly pass, paid unlimited day-pass, and paid 3-day passes for visitors. Could even have seasonal passes, or yearly passes. No "senior discount" because it'd be assumed the passenger is a senior.

The passes would be directly connected to your Villager ID or visitor's ID pass. Scan and board, easy peasy.

That is a wonderful idea, but possibly a bit too Utopian at this time.

Pretty much anyone who is able to drive a car or a golf cart will generally want to do so, and that is easily 95+% of the population of TV.
So, this leaves people who can no longer drive a vehicle, but aren't ready for assisted living or a nursing facility, and don't live a short walk away from what they want, such as those in the Brownwood Lofts. So it is not a necessity for very many residents.
Meanwhile, given the size of TV, and the number of Rec Centers, pools, restaurants, stores, and medical offices, it would require quite a few "trolleys" at a substantial cost. And remember, those passengers still have to get to the trolley stop. Will the trollies be handicapped accessible? Will they accommodate scooters and electric wheelchairs? Will the driver assist these people? How long will a "circuit" be? How much will loading 2 or 3 mobility devices delay the route? Will people have to stand 1/2 an hour in the rain to catch these trollies.

I didn't mean to rain on your parade, because I agree it is a good idea. But it appears to be cost prohibitive as well as having a multitude of logistical problems.

[Papa_lecki]

Not everyone golfs here and everyone not good golfers.

But they don’t complain about the golf.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

That is a wonderful idea, but possibly a bit too Utopian at this time.

Pretty much anyone who is able to drive a car or a golf cart will generally want to do so, and that is easily 95+% of the population of TV.
So, this leaves people who can no longer drive a vehicle, but aren't ready for assisted living or a nursing facility, and don't live a short walk away from what they want, such as those in the Brownwood Lofts. So it is not a necessity for very many residents.
Meanwhile, given the size of TV, and the number of Rec Centers, pools, restaurants, stores, and medical offices, it would require quite a few "trolleys" at a substantial cost. And remember, those passengers still have to get to the trolley stop. Will the trollies be handicapped accessible? Will they accommodate scooters and electric wheelchairs? Will the driver assist these people? How long will a "circuit" be? How much will loading 2 or 3 mobility devices delay the route? Will people have to stand 1/2 an hour in the rain to catch these trollies.

I didn't mean to rain on your parade, because I agree it is a good idea. But it appears to be cost prohibitive as well as having a multitude of logistical problems.

It's not entirely utopian, this is already an option in some communities (albeit much smaller than ours). It's also not just for people who can't drive. It's also for people who want to let someone else do the driving for a change. It's a convenience. It reduces traffic, which is ALWAYS a good thing.

Some tram systems have elevating wheelchair ramps with space designated for wheelchairs. Scooters, no. Wheelchairs, yes. Some public transit systems have built their buses to carry bicycles on the front as well, so that's also a thing.

A tram isn't really a trolley (I had edited it, you probably responded to it pre-edit). A tram is more like a high-powered golf cart with 5-6 benches, each of which can accommodate 3-4 people. They're more or less open-air, with guard rails and a roof but no walls.

As for routing: you'd need "local" trams, a "central location," and regional commuter buses (those are the small ones like Workman has to get folks to the airport).

Local trams would be something like - a circuit that goes from Morse and 44 to points south - Monarch Grove, Citrus Grove, etc and up to Brownwood town square. Another one that would go 44 and Morse up to 466A and then around southwesterly to Brownwood town square. Another might go from somewhere on/near 466A and Morse northward, while another might go from 466A and Buena Vista Blvd northward. Each "local" tram would stop at the closest town square to them, and the closest shopping or medical center closest to them. One that connects up by Legacy and over Camino Real around the Savannah Center, and one that goes from the Savannah Center down Buena Vista to 466, stopping at the Polo grounds. There would be overlap, which is how it SHOULD work - so points south come north, points north go south, west and east meet in the middle as well.

Then - a "regional" would go from one town square to another, stopping only at strategic points (not going to rec centers). Brownwood would go to Sumter, Sumter would go to Spanish Springs. Maybe Brownwood would have another regional one going to the new Sawgrass (is that what it's called?)? Or perhaps it would be Sumter that does that.

There'd be 2-3 trams for each route so that there's always one coming back, one leaving, and one somewhere out in the distance furthest from the start and finish line.

Then there'd be the "direct route" buses that connect ONLY at the town squares. Great for folks who do monthly lunches in groups and don't want to take 10 golf carts or 5 cars, and want to make a day of it.

Imagine a bus taking you to your evening at the town square for dinner and dancing during market night or the antique car shows, and not having to worry about a parking space, or driving, or (because you know it happens) drinking and driving. Not having to pay a fortune for Uber, IF you can even find one available when you happen to want one.

[Veiragirl]

Drive,or be on top of your neighbors home, very high monthly frees, don't play golf, cannot stand the heat, very far from malls, alot of traffic in season, renter, not gated communities, restrictions,. Otherwise go their. These are things that you will never here but are very impotant when you buy and home.

Malls!! Who goes to malls anymore. As far as the heat, hey its Florida

[Two Bills]

What are these Malls and shop things that posters keep refering too?
Are they alternative sites to Amazon etc?:icon_wink:

[Speedie]

Sorry you could not afford to enjoy TV lifestyle

[asianthree]

OP Why are U yelling as TOTV posters. If you are not happy sell, make a bucket of money. We did our homework, and made wise investment, happy to be here

[joelfmi]

/QUOTE]peace is to man what yeast is to dough

[Bogie Shooter]

/QUOTE]peace is to man what yeast is to dough

This doesn’t make anymore sense than the original post?:confused: