doggie nuisance..

[Andrea3051]

Hi All,
looking for an option that I have not already explored. I am living in a courtyard villa mostly to enjoy the backyard with my pup. My next-door neighbor also has a dog that is reactive every time we are outside with growling and mind-numbing barking to the point where my sweet pup can't even do her business in peace. Not to mention my enjoyment of my yard as well.

yes, I have already spoken to the neighbor, she has a doggie door since she is out a lot so its great for her but for the neighbors listening to barking day and night, not so much. I told her how bad it was but she could care less.

I also contacted the villages customer service and they directed me to animal control. not sure this elevates to that level since the barking is intermittent, i.e. he reacts to activity around his area.

Is this just my luck? why do people leave barking dogs out when we are all living so close to each other? not the experience I wanted here for sure as a newbie....

any suggestions welcomed....

[Koapaka]

So very grateful we did not go with a courtyard villa like we initially wanted. We don't have a fur baby, but because of the issues we have heard of from those that did go with the lower maintenance yards with similar issues. You don't need to own a fur baby for the one next door to be an issue when he/she hears/sees/imagines a threat they think they are protecting their beloved owner from.

[vintageogauge]

Call animal control if you have an issue. It's what they are there for after all. I would suggest you take your dog for a walk....they have four legs just for that purpose.

As for your villa...hmmm...don't they have pretty high fences between them. How would the other dog know unless your dog is making noise that attracts it???

Dogs will smell another dog even from behind a fence. They will also smell the dog's owner. You don't have to make noise for it to bark.

[asianthree]

We were dead set on buying a CYV in 2010. Our TV salesperson put us in one for our visit. I could hear the nice lady 2 doors down entire conversation every time she took a phone call.

People behind us had their TV on the lanai, no picture for us but we could hear every program they watched clearly. Those with doggie doors, have no idea how much their dogs bark. By morning 3 we were so glad our rep opened our eyes to CYV living. I would imagine many are quite, but didn’t want to gamble.

[Babubhat]

If a property has a fence assume there is an annoying animal nearby. First rule of real estate here

[Shbullet]

Such a ridiculous reply to a person with a valid concern # 2 post

[Shbullet]

Courtyard villas can be perfect depending on what your doing.. My neighbor complained that my music was too loud , so I understood and turned it off. Then he went into his Lania and I listened to a 1 hour conversation with him and his West Virginia friends in the most loud obnoxious southern slang voice I ever heard. Much worse than my music ,

[Babubhat]

Fences do not insure good neighbors in courtyard villas. Buyer beware

[Garywt]

It is a shame that you neighbor is not a kind person. Most people will take care of the issue like locking to doggie door when out or take the dog with them. If needed, crate the dog when they are out. Since they do not seem to care about anyone else I would call animal control and be sure you and your dog are outside so they can hear what is going on. As for the comments about fences, some don’t understand that not all homes with houses have dogs and homes without fences are not allowed to add them. Good luck and hope it works out.

[DAVES]

Hi All,
looking for an option that I have not already explored. I am living in a courtyard villa mostly to enjoy the backyard with my pup. My next-door neighbor also has a dog that is reactive every time we are outside with growling and mind-numbing barking to the point where my sweet pup can't even do her business in peace. Not to mention my enjoyment of my yard as well.

yes, I have already spoken to the neighbor, she has a doggie door since she is out a lot so its great for her but for the neighbors listening to barking day and night, not so much. I told her how bad it was but she could care less.

I also contacted the villages customer service and they directed me to animal control. not sure this elevates to that level since the barking is intermittent, i.e. he reacts to activity around his area.

Is this just my luck? why do people leave barking dogs out when we are all living so close to each other? not the experience I wanted here for sure as a newbie....

any suggestions welcomed....

As i'm sure you are aware, you can talk to people about so many things. But their dog,
do not expect people to be reasonable. Surely the villages people are aware of this.
Like most things there is a proper way to complain. A phone call is easy to dismiss.
A letter return receipt cannot be denied that they got it.

We typically only hear one side of the story. It seems your neighbor does not care and has no intention of dealing with it. The dog is barking because it is probably bored. There are devices that sense a dog barking and issues an ultrasonic burst. The good ones are like 30-$40. I had one, it did not seem to work. The dogs bark did change-perhaps he was laughing.

You can as I did, get a silent dog whistle. You train the dog to bark when it hears the whistle. Fairly easy to do. Then you blow it a few times at say 1am and they will solve the problem when it is bothering them.

[DAVES]

So very grateful we did not go with a courtyard villa like we initially wanted. We don't have a fur baby, but because of the issues we have heard of from those that did go with the lower maintenance yards with similar issues. You don't need to own a fur baby for the one next door to be an issue when he/she hears/sees/imagines a threat they think they are protecting their beloved owner from.

As posted elsewhere. When we decided to retire and where to go, I became aware of an island off North Carolina, it had a nice home, it was several acres, it had a small herd of wild horses and was offered for one million. I was teasing when I told my wife I would be king and she could be queen. HUM Immediately there was discontent from the only other resident.

Your rights end where the other persons rights begin. That is truly simple and covers most complex issues. This place can and will become hell when all think ME ME ME.
That includes a barking dog.

[fdpaq0580]

If a property has a fence assume there is an annoying animal nearby. First rule of real estate here

And the annoying animal might not be the cat or dog!!!

🙈🙉💩😠

[Djean1981]

They sell bark deterrents on Amazon and other sites. It emits an unpleasant tone when barking is detected. Put it close to your neighbor's yard. Trigger the barking a couple times while your dog is inside. The devices don't seem to work for all dogs, but I used one ( a fake bird house) for my neighbors large dogs. It worked very quickly. It may be worth a try...

Here's an example product:

https://www.amazon.com/Yunboo-Ultrasonic-Deterrent-Rechargeable-Deterrents/dp/B098QX1FTT/ref=mp_s_a_1_18?crid=2QCPYQIX3IL1N&keywords=bark+deterrent+device&qid=1638498744&refinements=p_85%3A2470955011&rnid=2470954011&rps=1&sprefix=bark+det%2Caps%2C171&sr=8-18

[Vikingjunior]

Record the "excessive" dog barking and file a complaint with The Villages, animal control and the Police. Other then that you would need to move.

[ex34449]

Not the cheapest method but get a frequency generator, set it to dogs threshold, point it towards offending dog and turn up the volume until it stops barking. When it stops, turn it off. I've trained several neighbor dogs using the method and I'm happy to say that within a week, all have been 'trained' to shut the heck up with no humans other than I knowing anything happened.

[Road-Runner]

We're dog owners and would have never responded the way your neighbor did to your complaint. As pet owners it's our responsibility to keep our dogs from becoming a neighborhood nuisance. They're far from perfect and like to bark at everything from lizards and small birds in the yard to people walking their pets down the street outside our lanai, we have a squirt bottle with water in it that we spray on their faces to make them stop. It's not a perfect solution but they're not allowed to go on & on with their barking.

[b0bd0herty]

Call animal control if you have an issue. It's what they are there for after all. I would suggest you take your dog for a walk....they have four legs just for that purpose.

As for your villa...hmmm...don't they have pretty high fences between them. How would the other dog know unless your dog is making noise that attracts it???

blaming the victim?

[DaleDivine]

We were dead set on buying a CYV in 2010. Our TV salesperson put us in one for our visit. I could hear the nice lady 2 doors down entire conversation every time she took a phone call.

People behind us had their TV on the lanai, no picture for us but we could hear every program they watched clearly. Those with doggie doors, have no idea how much their dogs bark. By morning 3 we were so glad our rep opened our eyes to CYV living. I would imagine many are quite, but didn’t want to gamble.

We love our CYV and have a doggy door. Our neighbors have dogs that rarely bark.
It's their nature to bark at strange noises. Ours rarely barks and stays inside when we are gone. We never hear our neighbors when our lanai door is open. Maybe we just got the best CYV neighborhood with fantastic neighbors...

:bigbow::bigbow:

[GOLFER54]

I have a neighbor behind me who has two dogs that they put out on their backyard lanai that bark non- stop whenever they are let out there. It was so annoying that the neighbor who lived next door to them argued with them about the disturbance only to be intimidated by owner, and he moved, another woman bought the home and she moved. Till this very day, a third person bought the home but isn’t there full time. I hesitate to even have lunch on my lanai with all that racket going on. I find it totally disrespectful to neighbors and the neighborhood that these types of behaviors can continue without consequences. I am a dog lover, and have a dog myself that only barks if someone comes to the door or on my property.

[Petersweeney]

Lucky for my neighbor, Buddy my 16 yo golden tries to bark but now he sounds like Harpo’s horn on low volume.

[DOGSAREKEEPERS]

I don't know how often you go to play with your dog but you could explain to the neighbor that you would like both dogs to get along and meet each other. If they can meet & get along the next door dog might not bark so much when your dog is out.
Or...you could ask if it's OK if you call her when you know you are going out with your dog and perhaps she could keep her dog inside during that period of time. Bring a treat for the dog.
or...you could get some freeze dried liver treats and when the dog starts barking throw him a treat over the wall.
or ...if all else fails get a boom box and play something with a heavy bass next to the fence when you are out with your dog . That should annoy both the next door dog and the neighbor and maybe the message will be clear.

[Joecool]

My dogs are often on alert. We have a doggie door. I have introduced them to all of the neighbors and now that they know them once the neighbor calls out their name the dogs calm right down. be better friends where their dog is not on alert and warning it's owner that there's a dog in the next yard they would get to know one another. Dogs talk but maybe not as much if the are buddies. Just a suggestion it work for us

[fdpaq0580]

I don't know how often you go to play with your dog but you could explain to the neighbor that you would like both dogs to get along and meet each other. If they can meet & get along the next door dog might not bark so much when your dog is out.
Or...you could ask if it's OK if you call her when you know you are going out with your dog and perhaps she could keep her dog inside during that period of time. Bring a treat for the dog.
or...you could get some freeze dried liver treats and when the dog starts barking throw him a treat over the wall.
or ...if all else fails get a boom box and play something with a heavy bass next to the fence when you are out with your dog . That should annoy both the next door dog and the neighbor and maybe the message will be clear.

Do NOT throw treats to the neighbors dog when he starts barking. Once he scarfs down the treat, he will bark for another, and on, and on.

[skippy05]

Take this an eye-opening moment and get that thing sold. These noise issues are an integral part of CYV living. Too bad you didn't realize this before purchasing. Such is life. But, get it sold and this mistake behind you.

[sallyg]

Very sorry for your problem. It can make your day-to-day life so unpleasant. We also experienced a problem with a neighbor's dog. Don't expect any support from the Villages or animal control. We tried both and everybody passed the buck. It was quite a shock since we had just moved to TV and assumed all the various deed restrictions, rules and regulations etc. were enforced. Silly us. Best to try to work out something with your neighbor. Good luck.

[kendi]

Call animal control if you have an issue. It's what they are there for after all. I would suggest you take your dog for a walk....they have four legs just for that purpose.

As for your villa...hmmm...don't they have pretty high fences between them. How would the other dog know unless your dog is making noise that attracts it???

Believe me they know. Our dog and neighbor’s always know when the other is out. Keen sense of hearing and smell. I suspect the owner does walk her dog but the point of a CYV is to not to have to walk it every time it has to go. Especially at night.

[kendi]

I don't know how often you go to play with your dog but you could explain to the neighbor that you would like both dogs to get along and meet each other. If they can meet & get along the next door dog might not bark so much when your dog is out.
Or...you could ask if it's OK if you call her when you know you are going out with your dog and perhaps she could keep her dog inside during that period of time. Bring a treat for the dog.
or...you could get some freeze dried liver treats and when the dog starts barking throw him a treat over the wall.
or ...if all else fails get a boom box and play something with a heavy bass next to the fence when you are out with your dog . That should annoy both the next door dog and the neighbor and maybe the message will be clear.

Neighbor is often gone when the dog is out…. Doggie door

[PugMom]

We're dog owners and would have never responded the way your neighbor did to your complaint. As pet owners it's our responsibility to keep our dogs from becoming a neighborhood nuisance. They're far from perfect and like to bark at everything from lizards and small birds in the yard to people walking their pets down the street outside our lanai, we have a squirt bottle with water in it that we spray on their faces to make them stop. It's not a perfect solution but they're not allowed to go on & on with their barking.

we have the same problems & use the spray bottle thing, too. :bigbow:

[Two Bills]

we have the same problems & use the spray bottle thing, too. :bigbow:

Get a greyhound next time.
Lazy buggers sleep most of the time, except for meal times.
They can't be bothered with all the guarding the home and barking stuff.
They fart a lot as well.
I love'em!

[airstreamingypsy]

Call animal control if you have an issue. It's what they are there for after all. I would suggest you take your dog for a walk....they have four legs just for that purpose.

As for your villa...hmmm...don't they have pretty high fences between them. How would the other dog know unless your dog is making noise that attracts it???

So, you start by blaming the victim, and finish by showing us all that you know nothing about dogs.

Maybe this is one you should have scrolled on by.

[Beplion]

Assume you're from up north. What other reason would there be to degrade a southern accent???? Southerners are offended by northerners loud accent but we dont complain about it here

[Cbsmith3133@gmail.com]

The BarxBuddy works wonders. It can be found on Amazon or Google.

[airstreamingypsy]

I don't know how often you go to play with your dog but you could explain to the neighbor that you would like both dogs to get along and meet each other. If they can meet & get along the next door dog might not bark so much when your dog is out.
Or...you could ask if it's OK if you call her when you know you are going out with your dog and perhaps she could keep her dog inside during that period of time. Bring a treat for the dog.
or...you could get some freeze dried liver treats and when the dog starts barking throw him a treat over the wall.
or ...if all else fails get a boom box and play something with a heavy bass next to the fence when you are out with your dog . That should annoy both the next door dog and the neighbor and maybe the message will be clear.

If a dog barks, and a liver treat rains down on him, he will forever bark hoping for a second miracle. Never treat a dog who is behaving badly.

[jammaiora]

Call animal control if you have an issue. It's what they are there for after all. I would suggest you take your dog for a walk....they have four legs just for that purpose.

As for your villa...hmmm...don't they have pretty high fences between them. How would the other dog know unless your dog is making noise that attracts it???
I guess you have never had a dog or not one in a few years. Dogs have keen senses. They know when there are people or animals near them without seeing them.

[The Caretaker]

I have the same problem. We live in a patio villa. Our neighbors leave their 125lb golden retriever at home alone. Their window is at the side of their house just 8 feet from my patio. Barks every time we go out side for as long as we are outside. I made all the calls you did.

So much for peaceful enjoyment of our property.
Shame on disrespecting neighbors who think “They have arrived and can do anything they want,”

[Joanne19335]

I love dogs, so when I had this problem up north, I got to know the dog. Once we were friends, he never barked at me again. Unless you have a severe allergy, make friends with the fur baby.

[CFrance]

I love dogs, so when I had this problem up north, I got to know the dog. Once we were friends, he never barked at me again. Unless you have a severe allergy, make friends with the fur baby.
I agree with this. OP has a dog, so allergies might not be an issue. I would take treats over and personally give them to the dog. More than once. Pet the dog, learn the dog's name. Make sure the dog sees you and gets to know your scent. Then if he barks when you come outside, speak to the dog in a pleasant manner. Even then throw a treat over after he quiets down.
It shouldn't take long for this problem to go away, especially if OP can take her own dog over to meet & greet.

[xcaligirl]

Call animal control if you have an issue. It's what they are there for after all. I would suggest you take your dog for a walk....they have four legs just for that purpose.

As for your villa...hmmm...don't they have pretty high fences between them. How would the other dog know unless your dog is making noise that attracts it???
Dog SMELL other dogs, they don't need to see them! It's rude for the dog owner to allow the dog to go outside when she's not home to supervise. She's been notified of the problem however decided to not do anything about it and not care about neighbors. We had a neighbor before in CA and our dog did not make any noises at all and the dog would go off on him.

[cbmerl]

Call animal control if you have an issue. It's what they are there for after all. I would suggest you take your dog for a walk....they have four legs just for that purpose.

As for your villa...hmmm...don't they have pretty high fences between them. How would the other dog know unless your dog is making noise that attracts it???

Wow...Snarky!!

[yankygrl]

Wow...Snarky!! #39
Not snarky, just a question...

[kaj3459]

Most dogs bark because they sense a threat. If they can “see” what it is that they are sensing is a threat and get eventually realize that the threat really isn’t a threat, they usually stop. This may be difficult given the fencing, but perhaps you and your neighbor can come up with some sort of “window” so her dog can “see” your dog and realize it is not a threat!

[justjim]

OP, this situation “is just your luck”. In The Villages you can choose your home but not your neighbors.

[MollyJo]

Record the "excessive" dog barking and file a complaint with The Villages, animal control and the Police. Other then that you would need to move.

This is an eye opener for me, as I thought The Villages would enforce the bylaws to keep the Communities reputation. I sold my house intending to make a move to The villages, then Covid hit. I decided to stay put a couple of more years before retiring & bought a condo with 20 pages of regulations. Within 4 weeks I realized no one enforces the bylaws, dog owners allowed their pets to run off leash, did not pick up the waste, and my neighbors 55 y/o son displayed his ‘junk’ as he urinated under my carport bc he & Daddy (81 yrs) didn’t like that I installed cameras to watch my vehicles. The police said it is not a crime to display yourself in public as long as no one physically sees you. But it’s ok to be on camera. What has happened to this world?

[Driller703]

As posted elsewhere. When we decided to retire and where to go, I became aware of an island off North Carolina, it had a nice home, it was several acres, it had a small herd of wild horses and was offered for one million. I was teasing when I told my wife I would be king and she could be queen. HUM Immediately there was discontent from the only other resident.

Your rights end where the other persons rights begin. That is truly simple and covers most complex issues. This place can and will become hell when all think ME ME ME.
That includes a barking dog.
I have no idea what this pose means !

[brianherlihy]

well we just have a new home the home next hoor has d dog and he barkes all day long and she takes him out to poop and du all om my grass i told her to stop and she told me to move

[fdpaq0580]

well we just have a new home the home next hoor has d dog and he barkes all day long and she takes him out to poop and du all om my grass i told her to stop and she told me to move

Pictures, video. Charge trespass. Claim you feel threatened, if you do and request restraining order.
Goes on and on, but you fight the bully or let them chase you out of your home. Video and security cams might be your friend when teamed up with law enforcement. A visit to an attorney might help too.

[fdpaq0580]

Most dogs bark because they sense a threat. If they can “see” what it is that they are sensing is a threat and get eventually realize that the threat really isn’t a threat, they usually stop. This may be difficult given the fencing, but perhaps you and your neighbor can come up with some sort of “window” so her dog can “see” your dog and realize it is not a threat!

A threat is only one reason dogs bark. Sometimes it is for attention, anyone want to play, can I go out, can I come in, unrecognizable sound, playing with other animals. They even bark because they are bored or just to hear themselves. Once the dog knows you, don't be surprised if he continually "asks", play with me, I'm right here.

[GypsyRN]

I don't know how often you go to play with your dog but you could explain to the neighbor that you would like both dogs to get along and meet each other. If they can meet & get along the next door dog might not bark so much when your dog is out.
Or...you could ask if it's OK if you call her when you know you are going out with your dog and perhaps she could keep her dog inside during that period of time. Bring a treat for the dog.
or...you could get some freeze dried liver treats and when the dog starts barking throw him a treat over the wall.
or ...if all else fails get a boom box and play something with a heavy bass next to the fence when you are out with your dog . That should annoy both the next door dog and the neighbor and maybe the message will be clear.

What a stupid idea!!! Have you ever considered that the dog next door may be allergic to the ingredients in the doggie treats and might just be a shock to their systems. How irresponsible...why don't you just shoot the dog and be done with it! The lawsuit will be forthcoming regardless.

[fdpaq0580]

What a stupid idea!!! Have you ever considered that the dog next door may be allergic to the ingredients in the doggie treats and might just be a shock to their systems. How irresponsible...why don't you just shoot the dog and be done with it! The lawsuit will be forthcoming regardless.

Other than ridicule and belittling of one trying to offer kind and friendly possible solutions, what do you bring to the table to help solve the problem? Other than. "just shoot the dog and be done with it".
As to a commercial dog treat being a source of allergic shock that might kill the dog, I believe that highly improbable. You may not have noticed the nasty stuff dogs put in their mouths and eat, or sniff and snort, or roll in and lick. If all that doesn't get them, I doubt they have much to worry about from a milkbone.

[Gpsma]

Dogs should be banned here. They cause too many problems in a retirement community.

For the most part, dogs are nothing more than loud, feces dropping public nuisances here.

[fdpaq0580]

Dogs should be banned here. They cause too many problems in a retirement community.

For the most part, dogs are nothing more than loud, feces dropping public nuisances here.

Just curious, what is HALAL?

[Gpsma]

It os the Muslim version of Kosher.

What we need here in the Villages is Halal Chicken and Rice...with white and hot sauce.
If GracieGirl was still around she could explain it all

[fdpaq0580]

It os the Muslim version of Kosher.

What we need here in the Villages is Halal Chicken and Rice...with white and hot sauce.
If GracieGirl was still around she could explain it all

Off subject of dogs, but wife and I love to experience food of other cultures. We will see where the nearest restaurant that servers food that follows HALAL guidelines and give it a try.
Thank you again.

[Topspinmo]

We were dead set on buying a CYV in 2010. Our TV salesperson put us in one for our visit. I could hear the nice lady 2 doors down entire conversation every time she took a phone call.

People behind us had their TV on the lanai, no picture for us but we could hear every program they watched clearly. Those with doggie doors, have no idea how much their dogs bark. By morning 3 we were so glad our rep opened our eyes to CYV living. I would imagine many are quite, but didn’t want to gamble.

Wow, you could here that inside. What magnified hearing. So you think the back yard in majority where you spit out you’re back door without hitting the neighbors yard is much better. When I go outdoors I don’t expect the neighbors to be quite or lower there conversations just because I made my entrance outdoors.

[Topspinmo]

Dogs should be banned here. They cause too many problems in a retirement community.

For the most part, dogs are nothing more than loud, feces dropping public nuisances here.


Non dog owners should be banned here they cause too much trouble. We don’t get to make the rules do we. Plus, how can they ban dogs when the can’t even control age, renting, and rules the have on books now.

[Koapaka]

On the fur baby subject, people REALLY need to be very mindful of taking their babies out on a leash in crowded areas.

We saw a poor lady trip over the leash of a dog that was busy exploring all the sights and sounds of the farmers market in Brownwood yesterday. He zagged right in front of her between steps and when her back foot tripped on the leash she faceplanted without warning.

Sorry, but I just don't see the need to take an animal to such a crowded event given the fall risk factors for our demographics.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

2 of my homes were courtyard villas ,one which opened onto golf course and another regular home backed up to a wall , I can tell you I was extremely lucky not to have any type of noise ( lawnmowers on course didn’t bother me)but many of my neighbors did have problems with dogs and people, the sound amplifies in those enclosed villas. I realize now how lucky I was and if I had all those anecdotes from neighbors before buying my first CYV I most likely wouldn’t have bought one