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GoBeau
12-15-2021, 10:17 AM
I’m hoping someone can provide a link where the latest Covid statistics for the area of The Villages can be found. I’ve search all the Forums and can’t find anything. I apologize if this is posted somewhere already but like I said, I search this Forums and did a Google search and there doesn’t seem to be anything other that stats that are a few months old available. I realize The Villages stretches across a few counties but stats should still be available to the general public. Thanking everyone in advance for your positive and accurate replies. Merry Christmas everyone and wishing everyone all the best for 2022.

Dana1963
12-15-2021, 10:25 AM
I’m hoping someone can provide a link where the latest Covid statistics for the area of The Villages can be found. I’ve search all the Forums and can’t find anything. I apologize if this is posted somewhere already but like I said, I search this Forums and did a Google search and there doesn’t seem to be anything other that stats that are a few months old available. I realize The Villages stretches across a few counties but stats should still be available to the general public. Thanking everyone in advance for your positive and accurate replies. Merry Christmas everyone and wishing everyone all the best for 2022.
It’s an easy GOOGLE search now to interpret information.

http://ww11.doh.state.fl.us/comm/_partners/covid19_report_archive/covid19-data/covid19_data_latest.pdf

jaj523
12-15-2021, 11:08 AM
This is a good site but it does not answer the question asked about statistics for The Villages. The best you can get is info on Sumter, Lake, and Marion counties.

retiredguy123
12-15-2021, 11:20 AM
The official statistics are compiled by county. I think that any Villages statistics would be unofficial and could be difficult to calculate due to the HIPAA law.

EdFNJ
12-15-2021, 11:20 AM
This is a good site but it does not answer the question asked about statistics for The Villages. The best you can get is info on Sumter, Lake, and Marion counties. You'll never find statistics JUST on the people who live in The Villages Communities by itself since it spans 3 counties. Best you might get is by zip code. Sumter County is the largest area but still includes outside TV.

golfing eagles
12-15-2021, 11:29 AM
I’m hoping someone can provide a link where the latest Covid statistics for the area of The Villages can be found. I’ve search all the Forums and can’t find anything. I apologize if this is posted somewhere already but like I said, I search this Forums and did a Google search and there doesn’t seem to be anything other that stats that are a few months old available. I realize The Villages stretches across a few counties but stats should still be available to the general public. Thanking everyone in advance for your positive and accurate replies. Merry Christmas everyone and wishing everyone all the best for 2022.

Be happy to give an accurate reply. Positive, maybe not so much.

So far there is no COVID count that applies only to The Villages--- you can get county and zip code---the closest approximation would be to add 32162 and 32163.

Now, just to play devil's advocate, why would anyone need to know that information and what would anyone do with it???? Because I wouldn't make any major life decisions based on what is essentially useless information. I suppose there is a threshold positivity rate above which more people will wear a mask while driving alone in their cars:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

tophcfa
12-15-2021, 11:34 AM
I’m hoping someone can provide a link where the latest Covid statistics for the area of The Villages can be found. I’ve search all the Forums and can’t find anything. I apologize if this is posted somewhere already but like I said, I search this Forums and did a Google search and there doesn’t seem to be anything other that stats that are a few months old available. I realize The Villages stretches across a few counties but stats should still be available to the general public. Thanking everyone in advance for your positive and accurate replies. Merry Christmas everyone and wishing everyone all the best for 2022.

Since we are very careful to take reasonable precautions, I am less concerned about the Covid statistics and way more concerned about availability of hospital capacity in the area (I get it that both are closely related). One of the very unfortunate side effects of Covid is that it is putting incredible strain our health care providers. A big concern is that people that have accidents, or other serious non-Covid related health events, will not be able to get adequate health care services. Does anyone know if this information is accurately readily available. If someone has the unfortunate need to go to an ER, it would be nice to be able to choose a place with available beds if necessary. Stay safe out there and Merry Christmas.

Gpsma
12-15-2021, 05:33 PM
I think Covid is rampant in the Villages.
I see so many with masks on...they must be sick.

We are all in danger again.

Pairadocs
12-15-2021, 10:55 PM
Since we are very careful to take reasonable precautions, I am less concerned about the Covid statistics and way more concerned about availability of hospital capacity in the area (I get it that both are closely related). One of the very unfortunate side effects of Covid is that it is putting incredible strain our health care providers. A big concern is that people that have accidents, or other serious non-Covid related health events, will not be able to get adequate health care services. Does anyone know if this information is accurately readily available. If someone has the unfortunate need to go to an ER, it would be nice to be able to choose a place with available beds if necessary. Stay safe out there and Merry Christmas.

An excellent point, but many would probably not think about it before the need arose. I think all and any of this type of information is very difficult to obtain... at least to an accurate degree. People and institutions tend to "frame" and "massage" this type of information to present the best picture possible, so personally, I'd not take any such figures you mange to find as "concrete". Hopefully (???) in the event of a serious accident, explosion, fire, etc. the fist responders are aware of which hospitals are able to accept victims ! ?

Pairadocs
12-15-2021, 11:06 PM
Be happy to give an accurate reply. Positive, maybe not so much.

So far there is no COVID count that applies only to The Villages--- you can get county and zip code---the closest approximation would be to add 32162 and 32163.

Now, just to play devil's advocate, why would anyone need to know that information and what would anyone do with it???? Because I wouldn't make any major life decisions based on what is essentially useless information. I suppose there is a threshold positivity rate above which more people will wear a mask while driving alone in their cars:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

I do take this virus very seriously, never knew either grandmother, BOTH died in the 1918 pandemic, however, having said that, there are light moments like the one you brought up. It made me wonder if there is also a threshold positivity rate above which we should all wear BOTH a mask and a large plastic face shield when driving... I gave up trying to figure out how a virus can know it is forbidden to enter under or around those shields... :ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:

skippy05
12-16-2021, 05:55 AM
Consider not thinking on this ever again and getting on with the rest of your life. Take some simple, common-sense precautions and other than that don't talk about it, think about it, worry about it, write about it. Don't you realize how many other things that might kill you have higher odds of killing you instead? Live life. Stop obsessing on this one health concern.

notme6w
12-16-2021, 07:44 AM
It’s whatever the politicians want it to be - need to just live you life - Merry Christmas

GeriS
12-16-2021, 07:46 AM
I do take this virus very seriously, never knew either grandmother, BOTH died in the 1918 pandemic, however, having said that, there are light moments like the one you brought up. It made me wonder if there is also a threshold positivity rate above which we should all wear BOTH a mask and a large plastic face shield when driving... I gave up trying to figure out how a virus can know it is forbidden to enter under or around those shields... :ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:
Those who got the vax during the Spanish Flu were the ones who perished, not the unjabbed. Data is out there.

Pupiczech
12-16-2021, 08:18 AM
Those who got the vax during the Spanish Flu were the ones who perished, not the unjabbed. Data is out there.

There was a vaccination for the Spanish flu???? I'd like to see THAT information. From a reliable source.

Two Bills
12-16-2021, 08:34 AM
Those who got the vax during the Spanish Flu were the ones who perished, not the unjabbed. Data is out there.

Utter bovine excrement. There was no vaccine.

Sedwards45
12-16-2021, 08:36 AM
I think Covid is rampant in the Villages.
I see so many with masks on...they must be sick.

We are all in danger again.

Many in The Villages wear a mask because of being in process of taking chemo, drugs for MS, heart conditions, etc. Their immune systems are compromised, therefore need extra protection from ANY airborne viruses. Most doctors will tell their patients to be extra careful during certain treatments.

JMintzer
12-16-2021, 08:46 AM
Many in The Villages wear a mask because of being in process of taking chemo, drugs for MS, heart conditions, etc. Their immune systems are compromised, therefore need extra protection from ANY airborne viruses. Most doctors will tell their patients to be extra careful during certain treatments.

Methinks your sarcasm meter is broken...

Bonnevie
12-16-2021, 08:56 AM
don't know if this is what you want but it's another source:

Florida COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Hospital Capacity: Florida COVID-19 Hospital Capacity | commercialappeal.com (https://data.commercialappeal.com/covid-19-hospital-capacity/florida/12/)

Marine1974
12-16-2021, 09:05 AM
You asked for positive reply’s. Now your attacked for asking an intelligent question about Covid rates . Sorry you have run into
such negative comments and misinformation that insults your , my and everyone’s intelligence and is not a good representation of
Villagers . I appreciate your question. I hope the moderators protect us here .

Yucatan2
12-16-2021, 09:10 AM
Replying to Bonnevie: This is a very interesting link I had not seen before, thank you for posting it. You can drill down to the stats on each county, as well as each hospital. It appears The Villages hospital almost always has high occupancy in ICU, whether there are a lot of Covid admissions or not.

Slk9786
12-16-2021, 09:35 AM
Smart, not sick.

askcarl
12-16-2021, 09:40 AM
No Illness in the TV Bubble. We don't need no stinking masks....

blueash
12-16-2021, 09:52 AM
Those who got the vax during the Spanish Flu were the ones who perished, not the unjabbed. Data is out there.


Perfect. I do love how sarcasm is so often missed. You even got a "like" from one of our anti-vaxxers as your comment fit his preconceived notions. I am fairly certain that all those who died from the Black Death AKA Bubonic Plague also were vaccinated.

nn0wheremann
12-16-2021, 10:08 AM
I’m hoping someone can provide a link where the latest Covid statistics for the area of The Villages can be found. I’ve search all the Forums and can’t find anything. I apologize if this is posted somewhere already but like I said, I search this Forums and did a Google search and there doesn’t seem to be anything other that stats that are a few months old available. I realize The Villages stretches across a few counties but stats should still be available to the general public. Thanking everyone in advance for your positive and accurate replies. Merry Christmas everyone and wishing everyone all the best for 2022.
Florida dept of health has hidden or stopped reporting much data.

Try this: Marion County, Florida Covid Case and Risk Tracker - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/marion-florida-covid-cases.html)

montysl
12-16-2021, 10:21 AM
My opinion is that it is best not to live your life standing under the clouds some would have you believe are permanently affixed but step out into the sunshine and enjoy your existence! I worked in IT for a university with our department being co-located with the schools of engineering of various types. MANY of the students (and professors) were of other nationalities and we were OFTEN informed of a student, or group, as having been diagnosed on campus with the various maladies we mostly just read about here in the US. We took precautions like washing our hands THOROUGHLY, trying not to touch the commonly touched surfaces (and using hand sanitizer if we did), standing a reasonable distance apart and avoiding obviously ill people. But we NEVER isolated ourselves and worried ourselves sick (pun intended). We live in a great place with great people and lots of things to enjoy in our lives! Choose THAT!

Dana1963
12-16-2021, 10:46 AM
I’m hoping someone can provide a link where the latest Covid statistics for the area of The Villages can be found. I’ve search all the Forums and can’t find anything. I apologize if this is posted somewhere already but like I said, I search this Forums and did a Google search and there doesn’t seem to be anything other that stats that are a few months old available. I realize The Villages stretches across a few counties but stats should still be available to the general public. Thanking everyone in advance for your positive and accurate replies. Merry Christmas everyone and wishing everyone all the best for 2022.
I have decided I don’t care what other people do in The Villages. If they fail to take of themselves just a few less people at the buffet.

jimjamuser
12-16-2021, 11:21 AM
I do take this virus very seriously, never knew either grandmother, BOTH died in the 1918 pandemic, however, having said that, there are light moments like the one you brought up. It made me wonder if there is also a threshold positivity rate above which we should all wear BOTH a mask and a large plastic face shield when driving... I gave up trying to figure out how a virus can know it is forbidden to enter under or around those shields... :ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:
If face shields are sssooo useless, then why do many professions wear them inside when working on or close to covid patients that are near-death in ICUs???????

eclairela
12-16-2021, 11:23 AM
The Villages do not want you to know that Covid is here and has infected many people.

hulagirl151@aol.com
12-16-2021, 12:00 PM
I think Covid is rampant in the Villages.
I see so many with masks on...they must be sick.

We are all in danger again.


The people with masks are masking to protect themselves from getting Covid 19. If
people are truly sick, they would (or should) stay home to protect the rest of the population from getting Covid 19.

Djean1981
12-16-2021, 12:02 PM
I believe the county level is very accurate since Villagers interact, dine, and shop in the local area. And, businesses in The Villages as well as the squares are open to the public.

blueash
12-16-2021, 12:19 PM
If face shields are sssooo useless, then why do many professions wear them inside when working on or close to covid patients that are near-death in ICUs???????

They wear them not to prevent airborne disease but to protect the wearer from being splattered by blood and other potentially infectious materials that are spewed about in an ICU.

Remember the masks are to prevent you spreading your illness to others. Plastic shields are to protect the wearer against large material, not viruses.

This is a bit of an over simplification.. but essentially correct.

Byte1
12-16-2021, 12:20 PM
Perfect. I do love how sarcasm is so often missed. You even got a "like" from one of our anti-vaxxers as your comment fit his preconceived notions. I am fairly certain that all those who died from the Black Death AKA Bubonic Plague also were vaccinated.

Sure, I am an "anti-vaxxer" that has driven a couple hours in Feb and March to get fully vaccinated.
FYI, I gave the "like" button because I thought the post was an attempt to be facetious, not because of any "preconceived notions." Some of us just enjoy the conversation, and do not pretend to know it all.

blueash
12-16-2021, 12:28 PM
Sure, I am an "anti-vaxxer" that has driven a couple hours in Feb and March to get fully vaccinated.
FYI, I gave the "like" button because I thought the post was an attempt to be facetious, not because of any "preconceived notions." Some of us just enjoy the conversation, and do not pretend to know it all.

There are two kinds of anti-vaxxers. Those who refuse to take the shots themselves, and those that do not believe that vaccines are a necessary public health measure to protect others. You have clearly stated, if I recall your posts, that you are opposed to any vaccine mandates or passports or similar actions. Perhaps I have you confused with another poster. If so, I apologize, and I'll accept your assertion that you got the sarcasm of the original posting about the Spanish flu.

Two Bills
12-16-2021, 01:00 PM
Perfect. I do love how sarcasm is so often missed. You even got a "like" from one of our anti-vaxxers as your comment fit his preconceived notions. I am fairly certain that all those who died from the Black Death AKA Bubonic Plague also were vaccinated.

Judging by this posters previous vaccine related posts, sarcasm/humor was not intended.
The poster is anti-vaccine.

Koapaka
12-16-2021, 01:14 PM
Seriously, I am starting to think some of you folks wake up with a "Well, this is it for me" attitude to start your day. Live life, LOVE freely, laugh much...enjoy....enjoy, enjoy!!!! When it comes your time to depart this earth, slide into wherever your idea of heaven is yelling Yeeeeee-Hawwww! What a ride!

Wyseguy
12-16-2021, 01:26 PM
Utter bovine excrement. There was no vaccine.

During the Spanish Flu, researchers and health workers in the United States and Europe were confidently devising vaccines and immunizing hundreds of thousands of people in what amounted to a medical experiment on the grandest scale. What were the vaccines they came up with? Did they do anything to protect the immunized and halt the spread of the disease?

Read the "History of Vaccines" There were vaccines for the Spanish Flu. Experimental (hmm) as they were.

Wyseguy
12-16-2021, 01:29 PM
Replying to Bonnevie: This is a very interesting link I had not seen before, thank you for posting it. You can drill down to the stats on each county, as well as each hospital. It appears The Villages hospital almost always has high occupancy in ICU, whether there are a lot of Covid admissions or not.

I would think communities over 55 would have higher hospitalization rates even if covid never existed.

golfing eagles
12-16-2021, 01:30 PM
Those who got the vax during the Spanish Flu were the ones who perished, not the unjabbed. Data is out there.

Interesting, since there was no vaccine for Spanish Flu in 1918-1919. Being a current anti-vaxxer is one thing, being a revisionist history anti-vaxxer is quite another:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Wyseguy
12-16-2021, 01:30 PM
Seriously, I am starting to think some of you folks wake up with a "Well, this is it for me" attitude to start your day. Live life, LOVE freely, laugh much...enjoy....enjoy, enjoy!!!! When it comes your time to depart this earth, slide into wherever your idea of heaven is yelling Yeeeeee-Hawwww! What a ride!

Hopefully the ride is just beginning; Yeeee Hawwww

Wyseguy
12-16-2021, 01:32 PM
Perfect. I do love how sarcasm is so often missed. You even got a "like" from one of our anti-vaxxers as your comment fit his preconceived notions. I am fairly certain that all those who died from the Black Death AKA Bubonic Plague also were vaccinated.

I always suggest doing some research before posting a smarmy reply.

golfing eagles
12-16-2021, 01:34 PM
The people with masks are masking to protect themselves from getting Covid 19. If
people are truly sick, they would (or should) stay home to protect the rest of the population from getting Covid 19.

2nd part---correct, those who are sick with COVID should isolate

1st part---the usual paper masks do just about nothing to protect the wearer---that ship sailed about 1 1/2 years ago

Koapaka
12-16-2021, 01:39 PM
Lets be honest, wearing other than an N-95
mask is just about as effective as putting on a knee high stocking while having sex and praying you wont get pregnant.....ANYONE WITH ANY MEDICAL TRAINING realizes that

Koapaka
12-16-2021, 01:43 PM
[QUOTE=Koapaka;2040281]Lets be honest, wearing other than an N-95 and expecting protection against COVID is just about as effective as putting on a knee high stocking while having sex and praying you wont get pregnant.....ANYONE WITH ANY MEDICAL TRAINING realizes that[/QUOTE

golfing eagles
12-16-2021, 01:47 PM
During the Spanish Flu, researchers and health workers in the United States and Europe were confidently devising vaccines and immunizing hundreds of thousands of people in what amounted to a medical experiment on the grandest scale. What were the vaccines they came up with? Did they do anything to protect the immunized and halt the spread of the disease?

Read the "History of Vaccines" There were vaccines for the Spanish Flu. Experimental (hmm) as they were.

Ummmm, not quite:

In the deadly Spanish influenza pandemic of 1918-19, investigators attempted to develop vaccines to prevent influenza, though they had not yet correctly identified the causative pathogen. A variety of killed whole cell bacterial vaccines were tested; these vaccines included Bacillus influenzae (now know as Haemophilus influenzae) and strains of pneumococcus, streptococcus, staphylococcus, and Moraxella catarrhalis bacteria. These vaccines would certainly not have prevented influenza infection--as we know now, the pandemic was caused by a new strain of the influenza A virus. Influenza viruses would not be isolated and identified until the 1930s, and the first commercial influenza vaccines were not licensed in the United States until the 1940s.

Wyseguy
12-16-2021, 02:07 PM
Lets be honest, wearing other than an N-95
mask is just about as effective as putting on a knee high stocking while having sex and praying you wont get pregnant.....ANYONE WITH ANY MEDICAL TRAINING realizes that

Well, sure, the idea of socks preventing pregnancy is funny; everyone knows standing up while engaged in sex prevents pregnancy.

Rainger99
12-16-2021, 02:23 PM
Does anyone have an explanation as to how the Spanish Flu ended without a vaccine? It lasted a little over two years and killed approximately 50,000,000 people worldwide. Covid has also been around for about two years and even though we have a vaccine, it does not look why we are anywhere close to an end of the pandemic.

Wyseguy
12-16-2021, 02:37 PM
Ummmm, not quite:

In the deadly Spanish influenza pandemic of 1918-19, investigators attempted to develop vaccines to prevent influenza, though they had not yet correctly identified the causative pathogen. A variety of killed whole cell bacterial vaccines were tested; these vaccines included Bacillus influenzae (now know as Haemophilus influenzae) and strains of pneumococcus, streptococcus, staphylococcus, and Moraxella catarrhalis bacteria. These vaccines would certainly not have prevented influenza infection--as we know now, the pandemic was caused by a new strain of the influenza A virus. Influenza viruses would not be isolated and identified until the 1930s, and the first commercial influenza vaccines were not licensed in the United States until the 1940s.

SmallPox Vaccine was used as early as 1805 in Italy. While it had been used in the US for a hundred years, it was not licensed by the FDA til 1931. I believe the post said that there was a Spanish Flu vaccine being given in 1918 that killed many. I guess that It being an experimental vaccine we should not be shocked by the deaths. I didn't see anyone other than above mention it was licensed.

JMintzer
12-16-2021, 04:41 PM
Replying to Bonnevie: This is a very interesting link I had not seen before, thank you for posting it. You can drill down to the stats on each county, as well as each hospital. It appears The Villages hospital almost always has high occupancy in ICU, whether there are a lot of Covid admissions or not.

That is because ICU beds expand and contract, according to need.

No sense staffing 50 ICU beds when only 20 are needed.

Hospitals typically shoot for 80% of capacity...

Koapaka
12-16-2021, 05:17 PM
Oh please....you want to know what is really going on ANYWERE, check the sewage system.... you can say whatever the hell you want but biproducts expelled by humans into the sewer system tell the REAL story! Omicron is dominant in wastewater samples in Florida county (https://news.yahoo.com/omicron-dominant-wastewater-samples-florida-173842553.html)

nancyre
12-16-2021, 06:49 PM
Review the state data by zip code, as the Villages exists in 3 counties.

golfing eagles
12-16-2021, 07:10 PM
SmallPox Vaccine was used as early as 1805 in Italy. While it had been used in the US for a hundred years, it was not licensed by the FDA til 1931. I believe the post said that there was a Spanish Flu vaccine being given in 1918 that killed many. I guess that It being an experimental vaccine we should not be shocked by the deaths. I didn't see anyone other than above mention it was licensed.

Actually, the first reference to smallpox vaccination was during the Ming dynasty in 1567-1572. Edward Jenner in England is credited with a true vaccine that didn't use smallpox, but rather cowpox

patfla06
12-16-2021, 09:54 PM
I think Covid is rampant in the Villages.
I see so many with masks on...they must be sick.

We are all in danger again.

I do NOT or have never had Covid.

I continue to wear a mask to continue to use caution. I don’t want to get the flu
or any other illness. Just trying to stay as healthy as possible.

Djean1981
12-17-2021, 03:21 AM
You can get covid, experience mild symptoms, and not even know it...

Byte1
12-17-2021, 08:18 AM
There are two kinds of anti-vaxxers. Those who refuse to take the shots themselves, and those that do not believe that vaccines are a necessary public health measure to protect others. You have clearly stated, if I recall your posts, that you are opposed to any vaccine mandates or passports or similar actions. Perhaps I have you confused with another poster. If so, I apologize, and I'll accept your assertion that you got the sarcasm of the original posting about the Spanish flu.

You are correct regarding my stance on vaccine mandates. I believe in vaccines/vaccinations, but I am against MANDATES. That does NOT make me anti-vax. There really is a difference and I would think that you would know the difference.
I also believe that a business owner should be able to make whatever requirements they wish to make regarding entry into their establishment, to include masking and/or vaccinations. I believe that is their prerogative. And it is your free will to NOT frequent their business if you do not agree with their requirements.

waterflower
12-17-2021, 08:54 AM
If you base your sats on con-vid testing from the PCR.. Please research (don't use evil google) the inventor Kary Banks Mullis. He invented the polymerase chain reaction technique. He repeatedly stated, the PCR test does not tell you that you are sick from con-vid. Dig deep on the research of this scientist. 1993 Nobel Prize winner in chemistry. He is a biochemist, PHD. Postdoctoral Fellowship in cardiology & pharmaceutical chemistry..He is not part of the big pharma mofia.

Byte1
12-17-2021, 09:24 AM
Well, sure, the idea of socks preventing pregnancy is funny; everyone knows standing up while engaged in sex prevents pregnancy.

I was about to give you a thumbs up, but then realized that someone might misconstrue that as agreeing with the idea that standing up while engaged in sex would prevent pregnancy. :thumbup:

Bonnevie
12-17-2021, 09:31 AM
If you base your sats on con-vid testing from the PCR.. Please research (don't use evil google) the inventor Kary Banks Mullis. He invented the polymerase chain reaction technique. He repeatedly stated, the PCR test does not tell you that you are sick from con-vid. Dig deep on the research of this scientist. 1993 Nobel Prize winner in chemistry. He is a biochemist, PHD. Postdoctoral Fellowship in cardiology & pharmaceutical chemistry..He is not part of the big pharma mofia.

fact check: Fact check: Inventor of method used to test for COVID-19 didn’t say it can’t be used in virus detection | Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-pcr/fact-check-inventor-of-method-used-to-test-for-covid-19-didnt-say-it-cant-be-used-in-virus-detection-idUSKBN24420X)

Topspinmo
12-17-2021, 09:32 AM
Perfect. I do love how sarcasm is so often missed. You even got a "like" from one of our anti-vaxxers as your comment fit his preconceived notions. I am fairly certain that all those who died from the Black Death AKA Bubonic Plague also were vaccinated.

Yes the vaccine of that time was drain some blood out.

Topspinmo
12-17-2021, 09:33 AM
I was about to give you a thumbs up, but then realized that someone might misconstrue that as agreeing with the idea that standing up while engaged in sex would prevent pregnancy. :thumbup:

It’s good preventer to me, I’m too old for stand up sex:) and the pop bellies get in road.:shocked:

golfing eagles
12-17-2021, 10:58 AM
I do NOT or have never had Covid.

I continue to wear a mask to continue to use caution. I don’t want to get the flu
or any other illness. Just trying to stay as healthy as possible.

Let me see if I can word this carefully since I like you----

If some anonymous person was wearing a mask to prevent flu or "other illnesses", would it be fair to assume they were wearing a mask at least from October thru April for the last 40,50, or 60 years of their lives???? Because I didn't see too many masks prior to February 2020.

Would that same anonymous person also be under the delusion that the usual paper masks protect them from getting the flu???

Now, I would tell that anonymous person to go right ahead and do what they feel comfortable with, even though the rationale is somewhat lacking scientific evidence.