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ElDiabloJoe
12-15-2021, 10:57 AM
I spoke with a non-Villages acquaintance who has been down to visit friends and golf in The Villages several dozen times over the years. She told me that almost all the golf in The Villages are flat courses filled with par three holes.

Since I've only golfed a couple executive courses, do those who have golfed more of TV find her claim to be fairly accurate?

That would certainly explain the reported 2011 statistic of over 1,800 (5 per day!) holes-in-one on TV courses.

golfing eagles
12-15-2021, 11:13 AM
I spoke with a non-Villages acquaintance who has been down to visit friends and golf in The Villages several dozen times over the years. She told me that almost all the golf in The Villages are flat courses filled with par three holes.

Since I've only golfed a couple executive courses, do those who have golfed more of TV find her claim to be fairly accurate?

That would certainly explain the reported 2011 statistic of over 1,800 (5 per day!) holes-in-one on TV courses.

She knows nothing about it. There are 40+ executive courses that are primarily par 3's----that's the definition of an executive course. There are 13 "championship" courses with 36 9's (10 with 27 holes, 3 with 18) and with the exception of Southern Oaks and the Pensacola to Destin rotation at Bonifay they all have only 4 par 3"s (Yes, I know Destin to Fort Walton has 5). The two rotations mentioned have 6 par 5's, 6 4's and 6 3's.

There are several reasons for so many holes in one:

***There are over 3 million rounds of golf played here each year
***Since there are over 350 holes of executive golf and probably 300+ par 3's on them, the odds increase
***a lot of the holes in ones are, well forgive my attitude, "rinky-dink"-----65 yards with a skulled driver from a very short tee

"Flat" has nothing to do with it

CWGUY
12-15-2021, 11:14 AM
Golf The Villages (https://www.golfthevillages.com/)

Bogie Shooter
12-15-2021, 12:09 PM
I spoke with a non-Villages acquaintance who has been down to visit friends and golf in The Villages several dozen times over the years. She told me that almost all the golf in The Villages are flat courses filled with par three holes.

Since I've only golfed a couple executive courses, do those who have golfed more of TV find her claim to be fairly accurate?

That would certainly explain the reported 2011 statistic of over 1,800 (5 per day!) holes-in-one on TV courses.
Key to your statement “non-villages”.

kkingston57
12-15-2021, 12:28 PM
Lived in Fla. entire life. Most of the village courses(executive) have more elevation changes than courses near the coast.

Do beleive that there are a lot of hole in ones hear due to fact that most people hit low balls which do a lot of rolling on the greens. Lower handicap people hit ball high which reduces the rolling and lessens likelihood of a hole in one.

Lastly when you play executive courses you are hitting at par 3's 8-9 times a round as opposed to 4 on most par 72 courses.

billethkid
12-15-2021, 01:53 PM
She knows NOT of what she speaks......OBVIOUSLY!

Oh no!!! Was this bait?

ElDiabloJoe
12-15-2021, 02:30 PM
She knows nothing about it. There are 40+ executive courses that are primarily par 3's----that's the definition of an executive course. There are 13 "championship" courses with 36 9's (10 with 27 holes, 3 with 18) and with the exception of Southern Oaks and the Pensacola to Destin rotation at Bonifay they all have only 4 par 3"s (Yes, I know Destin to Fort Walton has 5). The two rotations mentioned have 6 par 5's, 6 4's and 6 3's.

There are several reasons for so many holes in one:

***There are over 3 million rounds of golf played here each year
***Since there are over 350 holes of executive golf and probably 300+ par 3's on them, the odds increase
***a lot of the holes in ones are, well forgive my attitude, "rinky-dink"-----65 yards with a skulled driver from a very short tee

"Flat" has nothing to do with it

I thought 9-hole was the definition of an executive course.

Thank you for your insights. I am glad to hear that the courses are more than just a pitch n putt on steroids.

Billiethkid, this was not a troll bait post.

Thanks All!

buzzy
12-15-2021, 02:43 PM
Executive greens are so wavy, that it's hard to improve my scores.

CoachKandSportsguy
12-15-2021, 02:54 PM
Executive greens are so wavy, that it's hard to improve my scores.

agree with buzzy, pitch and putt on steroids, no, I can use my driver on some executive holes from the blacks. I used my 4 today on all the 180+ holes with wind against me.

greens are small and definitely not flat. . though there are still some wet spots on Red Fox, and high hitters need to repair their divots, as the greens are not PGA hard. .

We played Panther at Orange National this weekend and I had better approach shots there than at Red Fox. . . . still an amateur. .

mtdjed
12-15-2021, 03:50 PM
It would seem to me that the description of mostly flat and mostly par 3s aptly describes the executive courses. It is true that some of the greens have some slope, but the description would vary according to persons experience. Certainly, from my perception, you couldn't call these courses hilly. This is Florida!

yabbadu
12-15-2021, 04:18 PM
I spoke with a non-Villages acquaintance who has been down to visit friends and golf in The Villages several dozen times over the years. She told me that almost all the golf in The Villages are flat courses filled with par three holes.

Since I've only golfed a couple executive courses, do those who have golfed more of TV find her claim to be fairly accurate?

That would certainly explain the reported 2011 statistic of over 1,800 (5 per day!) holes-in-one on TV courses.

Let me understand! You spoke with a NON - Villager as your basis for Information. Wow...no wonder your confused!

Papa_lecki
12-15-2021, 05:10 PM
Actually, they are the opposite of flat. The golf courses (executive and championship) are part of the rain/water management system. The elevation changes allow them to retain water (and not go into houses) during hurricanes.

asianthree
12-15-2021, 05:27 PM
I spoke with a non-Villages acquaintance who has been down to visit friends and golf in The Villages several dozen times over the years. She told me that almost all the golf in The Villages are flat courses filled with par three holes.

Since I've only golfed a couple executive courses, do those who have golfed more of TV find her claim to be fairly accurate?

That would certainly explain the reported 2011 statistic of over 1,800 (5 per day!) holes-in-one on TV courses.

Another key point, whoever she visits, only sets her up at exec courses, so she only plays level 1 par three’s. One has to wonder why come several dozen times if she is so dissatisfied? Maybe she is not a championship, player, or chooses not to spend more than $12

Luggage
12-16-2021, 05:49 AM
There's a lot of rough comments above and the person posting was being serious.

Priebehouse
12-16-2021, 07:09 AM
Key to your statement “non-villages”.

Sounds like someone who is considering going to Dell Webb with 1 golf course, 1 pool, one clubhouse and $600 HOA. Adios!

Bay Kid
12-16-2021, 07:19 AM
Jealous of what we have. In this day and time people will say anything, with nothing to back up their statements, to discredit what they don't have.

All of our executive courses are all unique and not much flat land.

dshoberg
12-16-2021, 07:42 AM
Actually, they are the opposite of flat. The golf courses (executive and championship) are part of the rain/water management system. The elevation changes allow them to retain water (and not go into houses) during hurricanes.
Agree…..Volusia hole #1 is definitely not flat! ⛳️️

A-2-56
12-16-2021, 08:23 AM
FLAT? LMAO!
It’s Florida! I would not expect elevation changes like WV, E. Kentucky, VT, CO and so many other places.
I have not played all of the courses but there are pretty good elevation changes include Hilltop, Sarasota, Malory Hills.
Now I can understand the flat opinion if you played many of the courses like Silver Lake, Heron or Pelican, those would be difficult create hills, but then again they are in the Florida Peninsula.
I did play a VERY hilly course over by West Palm but then it was built on a waste dump piled very high.

ElDiabloJoe
12-16-2021, 08:30 AM
Jealous of what we have. In this day and time people will say anything, with nothing to back up their statements, to discredit what they don't have.

All of our executive courses are all unique and not much flat land.

Thank you Luggage, yes - my question was serious. I am the OP. The "jealous non-villager" is a friend of mine. I know where she lives, and I know the golf courses she golfs . She lives in a community very much like the villages only much smaller. And on a huge lake full of boating and skiing and tubing. Tellico Village in Tennessee. The three golf 18-hole golf courses they have are meticulous and gorgeous and challenging, filled with very few par-3's. The terrain undulates and moves uphill, downhill, through and over deep gulches and across water. Not ponds, but a large body of lake water. A former New Yorker, she is not jealous of The Villages because she already lives in a similar place but does not care for the crowds and congestion compared to her current area.

Anyhow, the entire purpose of the post was because she mentioned her opinion of the courses in the Villages and since I have only golfed a very few of them, I thought I would validate / invalidate her opinion by gathering intel from those of you who have golfed far more than just a few of the courses in The Villages.

Thank you all for your input and insights.

JMintzer
12-16-2021, 08:36 AM
It would seem to me that the description of mostly flat and mostly par 3s aptly describes the executive courses. It is true that some of the greens have some slope, but the description would vary according to persons experience. Certainly, from my perception, you couldn't call these courses hilly. This is Florida!

I most certainly notice the need to add/subtract a club due to elevation changes on many, if not most of the executive course holes...

JMintzer
12-16-2021, 08:44 AM
Thank you Luggage, yes - my question was serious. I am the OP. The "jealous non-villager" is a friend of mine. I know where she lives, and I know the golf courses she golfs . She lives in a community very much like the villages only much smaller. And on a huge lake full of boating and skiing and tubing. Tellico Village in Tennessee. The three golf 18-hole golf courses they have are meticulous and gorgeous and challenging, filled with very few par-3's. The terrain undulates and moves uphill, downhill, through and over deep gulches and across water. Not ponds, but a large body of lake water. A former New Yorker, she is not jealous of The Villages because she already lives in a similar place but does not care for the crowds and congestion compared to her current area.

Anyhow, the entire purpose of the post was because she mentioned her opinion of the courses in the Villages and since I have only golfed a very few of them, I thought I would validate / invalidate her opinion by gathering intel from those of you who have golfed far more than just a few of the courses in The Villages.

Thank you all for your input and insights.

So, she's comparing championship courses to executive courses... Alrighty then...

And also, "very few par threes" on he championship courses?

It's pretty much standard for 18 hole courses to have 4 par 3s, 4 par 5s and the rest par 4s...

Are her courses "special" in some way?

And it sounds like her home is carved into the mountains. Of course there will be more elevation changes!

One of the most beautiful and most challenging courses I've ever played was Kiawah, SC. Relatively flat, since it's on the beach!

CCristella
12-16-2021, 08:57 AM
Thell her to stay out of TV. she does not know what she is talking about...has she ever played golf here?

ElDiabloJoe
12-16-2021, 09:04 AM
Thell her to stay out of TV. she does not know what she is talking about...has she ever played golf here?

What are you so bent out of shape about? In the originating post I stated she has played in The Villages dozens of times. She made an offhand comment to me about her opinion and I simply wanted to see if there was any merit to it.

Didn't intend to personally offend you. No one is attacking you, your life's work, your choice of retirement housing, or anything else. Geeez. Deep breath. Pop a rosuvastatin.

DaleDivine
12-16-2021, 10:24 AM
Thank you Luggage, yes - my question was serious. I am the OP. The "jealous non-villager" is a friend of mine. I know where she lives, and I know the golf courses she golfs . She lives in a community very much like the villages only much smaller. And on a huge lake full of boating and skiing and tubing. Tellico Village in Tennessee. The three golf 18-hole golf courses they have are meticulous and gorgeous and challenging, filled with very few par-3's. The terrain undulates and moves uphill, downhill, through and over deep gulches and across water. Not ponds, but a large body of lake water. A former New Yorker, she is not jealous of The Villages because she already lives in a similar place but does not care for the crowds and congestion compared to her current area.

Anyhow, the entire purpose of the post was because she mentioned her opinion of the courses in the Villages and since I have only golfed a very few of them, I thought I would validate / invalidate her opinion by gathering intel from those of you who have golfed far more than just a few of the courses in The Villages.

Thank you all for your input and insights.

I did a search on mapquest of Tellico Village and I only see one course, Toqua. And doesn't look to be in very good shape. I would imagine it only gets limited play do to seasons there. Maybe a lot of snow and cold weather in the winter?

91941

ElDiabloJoe
12-16-2021, 10:27 AM
I did a search on mapquest of Tellico Village and I only see one course, Toqua. And doesn't look to be in very good shape. I would imagine it only gets limited play do to seasons there. Maybe a lot of snow and cold weather in the winter?

91941
There are actually 3 18-hole courses. Toqua, Tanasi, and one in a satellite portion of the community at Kahite (in Vonore, TN). The courses are largely Bermuda grass, so they are emerald green all summer, but dead brown dormant from first frost until 90-degree days (roughly mid Oct to mid May).

I believe these are her home courses, FWIW. Try clicking on the Amenities drop-down menu.

Golf Courses | Tellico Village | Loudon , TN (https://tellicovillage.org/amenities/golf/)
Golf Tellico Village (http://golftellicovillage.com)

Bogie Shooter
12-16-2021, 11:14 AM
There are actually 3 18-hole courses. Toqua, Tanasi, and one in a satellite portion of the community at Kahite (in Vonore, TN). The courses are largely Bermuda grass, so they are emerald green all summer, but dead brown dormant from first frost until 90-degree days (roughly mid Oct to mid May).

I believe these are her home courses, FWIW. Try clicking on the Amenities drop-down menu.

Golf Courses | Tellico Village | Loudon , TN (https://tellicovillage.org/amenities/golf/)
Golf Tellico Village (http://golftellicovillage.com)

Who cares?

Cheryl Barrios
12-16-2021, 12:11 PM
I spoke with a non-Villages acquaintance who has been down to visit friends and golf in The Villages several dozen times over the years. She told me that almost all the golf in The Villages are flat courses filled with par three holes.

Since I've only golfed a couple executive courses, do those who have golfed more of TV find her claim to be fairly accurate?

That would certainly explain the reported 2011 statistic of over 1,800 (5 per day!) holes-in-one on TV courses.


I see posts like this on so many different social media places. If people don't like the types of golf courses, why come and visit to play golf? Go somewhere else. It's not just people saying it about TV golf courses, it goes all the way to Disney World where the complaints include "it's too expensive" and "it's too crowded". Don't go then. Even if her statement would have been true - who cares and why check her statement?

swooner
12-16-2021, 12:37 PM
She knows nothing about it. There are 40+ executive courses that are primarily par 3's----that's the definition of an executive course. There are 13 "championship" courses with 36 9's (10 with 27 holes, 3 with 18) and with the exception of Southern Oaks and the Pensacola to Destin rotation at Bonifay they all have only 4 par 3"s (Yes, I know Destin to Fort Walton has 5). The two rotations mentioned have 6 par 5's, 6 4's and 6 3's.

There are several reasons for so many holes in one:

***There are over 3 million rounds of golf played here each year
***Since there are over 350 holes of executive golf and probably 300+ par 3's on them, the odds increase
***a lot of the holes in ones are, well forgive my attitude, "rinky-dink"-----65 yards with a skulled driver from a very short tee

"Flat" has nothing to do with it
How many of those Rinky dink aces have you made if it’s as easy as you suggest?

golfing eagles
12-16-2021, 01:16 PM
How many of those Rinky dink aces have you made if it’s as easy as you suggest?

None, and I'm proud of it.
Sounds like you made a few
My only ace was #5, Colony Hill G.C., Happauge, NY, 5/25/78, 198 yds with a 5 iron.

golfing eagles
12-16-2021, 01:28 PM
What are you so bent out of shape about? In the originating post I stated she has played in The Villages dozens of times. She made an offhand comment to me about her opinion and I simply wanted to see if there was any merit to it.

Didn't intend to personally offend you. No one is attacking you, your life's work, your choice of retirement housing, or anything else. Geeez. Deep breath. Pop a rosuvastatin.

No idea why that person appears to have been offended, but why would one take a hydroxymethylglutyrlcoenzymeAreductaseinhibitor to calm down??????

Shbullet
12-16-2021, 01:53 PM
Well, Booger Shooter, I do. That's why I posted the question in the very first place. Assumed you could'a figured that out. Your post should have said, "I don't care." in which case it would be recognized as irrelevant.

Wow, I'm just asking a question and creating a dialog. You don't have to be a jerk about it. If you're not interested, scroll on. I hope $hitting on the topic makes you feel more important and better about your self and your superiority to any of the rest of us. Were you a PIP, IRL, before becoming a keyboard jerk?

I feel your disgust.. 4 yrs ago when I 1st got here, I commented about a golf course and people came out of the woodwork about it. These are mostly posters that have in excess of 1000 s of posts. Some really feel they are responsible for the courses as they are. Thats typically why some get so defensive of any type of opinion. I think your post is valid and NO there is nothing wrong with asking questions.

CoachKandSportsguy
12-16-2021, 04:34 PM
Actually, the Tennessean comment reads like a self reinforcement for her decision. . . . meaning, she doesn't want to admit that the quantity of options here is better than back home, but her ego is keeping her from admitting it, so she justifies her decision with the statement made. . .

Humans are notorious for making statements to justify their prior decisions when one has a weak ego. . .

but whatever, its just :blahblahblah: :blahblahblah: :blahblahblah: post. .

Ken D.
12-17-2021, 07:12 AM
Actually, the Tennessean comment reads like a self reinforcement for her decision. . . . meaning, she doesn't want to admit that the quantity of options here is better than back home, but her ego is keeping her from admitting it, so she justifies her decision with the statement made. . .

Humans are notorious for making statements to justify their prior decisions when one has a weak ego. . .

but whatever, its just :blahblahblah: :blahblahblah: :blahblahblah: post. .
You hit the nail on the head!

Bay Kid
12-17-2021, 08:04 AM
Thank you Luggage, yes - my question was serious. I am the OP. The "jealous non-villager" is a friend of mine. I know where she lives, and I know the golf courses she golfs . She lives in a community very much like the villages only much smaller. And on a huge lake full of boating and skiing and tubing. Tellico Village in Tennessee. The three golf 18-hole golf courses they have are meticulous and gorgeous and challenging, filled with very few par-3's. The terrain undulates and moves uphill, downhill, through and over deep gulches and across water. Not ponds, but a large body of lake water. A former New Yorker, she is not jealous of The Villages because she already lives in a similar place but does not care for the crowds and congestion compared to her current area.

Anyhow, the entire purpose of the post was because she mentioned her opinion of the courses in the Villages and since I have only golfed a very few of them, I thought I would validate / invalidate her opinion by gathering intel from those of you who have golfed far more than just a few of the courses in The Villages.

Thank you all for your input and insights.

Sorry, didn't mean to offend you or your friend. Just a general answer to criticism about TVs.

Gac57
12-17-2021, 10:05 AM
What course in the Villages is the most fun to play?

golfing eagles
12-17-2021, 11:01 AM
What course in the Villages is the most fun to play?

Be prepared for the full spectrum of answers ranging from the black tees at Glenview to the putt and plays in Fenney/Marsh bend:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Bogie Shooter
12-17-2021, 11:18 AM
What course in the Villages is the most fun to play?

Enjoy them all.....keep a diary and you will find the one.

DaleDivine
12-18-2021, 07:42 AM
What course in the Villages is the most fun to play?

I like them all. No particular favorites on the executives or the championships.
And I have played every golf hole in The Villages.
:coolsmiley::coolsmiley:

JMintzer
12-18-2021, 08:38 PM
Played Southern Oaks on Friday. I have to say, I was impressed!

The fairways were immaculate, the greens were receptive to holding iron shots, the rough, while quite fully (I still haven't figured out how to hit out of it consistently) was short enough to find one's errant ball...

IIRC, it was 5 par 5's, 5 par 3's and the rest par 4's... Plenty of elevation changes requiring you to add or subtract a club...

The Turnpike was noticeable, but not distracting. Plenty of water to splash into...

Can't wait to play it again!

Papa_lecki
12-19-2021, 08:34 AM
Played Southern Oaks on Friday. I have to say, I was impressed!

The fairways were immaculate, the greens were receptive to holding iron shots, the rough, while quite fully (I still haven't figured out how to hit out of it consistently) was short enough to fine one's errant ball...

IIRC, it was 5 par 5's, 5 par 3's and the rest par 4's... Plenty of elevation changes requiring you to add or subtract a club...

The Turnpike was noticeable, but not distracting. Plenty of water to splash into...

Can't wait to play it again!

JM - That’s IMPOSSIBLE, I read 4 pages of posts here the Developer made Southern Oaks a terrible course on purpose so they can make more money.

JMintzer
12-19-2021, 08:41 AM
JM - That’s IMPOSSIBLE, I read 4 pages of posts here the Developer made Southern Oaks a terrible course on purpose so they can make more money.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

mike1946
12-20-2021, 06:04 AM
The oldest par 3 executive on the villages is Hilltop (also has a short par 4) and that thing ain't flat - the first hole is a duzzy long downhill with a trap in front and a trap and a lake behind to a small green and of course eventually you have to go up and down that hill a couple of times.
Where has this person been playing ? This kind of comment reminds me of the time I met a guy from Ocala Palms and he told me he had bought there because 'A someone' had told him you could never get a tee time in The Villages. I've been here for over 20 years and failed just twice.

DaleDivine
12-20-2021, 06:20 AM
Played Southern Oaks on Friday. I have to say, I was impressed!

The fairways were immaculate, the greens were receptive to holding iron shots, the rough, while quite fully (I still haven't figured out how to hit out of it consistently) was short enough to find one's errant ball...

IIRC, it was 5 par 5's, 5 par 3's and the rest par 4's... Plenty of elevation changes requiring you to add or subtract a club...

The Turnpike was noticeable, but not distracting. Plenty of water to splash into...

Can't wait to play it again!

Actually there are SIX par 5's SIX par 4's and SIX par 3's. And the Turnpike is very noticeable and noisy with lots of tractor trailers going by. Not a great place to live. Fairways and greens are in great shape.

:bigbow::welcome:

Bay Kid
12-20-2021, 07:51 AM
The oldest par 3 executive on the villages is Hilltop (also has a short par 4) and that thing ain't flat - the first hole is a duzzy long downhill with a trap in front and a trap and a lake behind to a small green and of course eventually you have to go up and down that hill a couple of times.
Where has this person been playing ? This kind of comment reminds me of the time I met a guy from Ocala Palms and he told me he had bought there because 'A someone' had told him you could never get a tee time in The Villages. I've been here for over 20 years and failed just twice.

I'm still trying to stick the 1st green! Love that little course.

noslices1
12-20-2021, 07:52 AM
It would seem to me that the description of mostly flat and mostly par 3s aptly describes the executive courses. It is true that some of the greens have some slope, but the description would vary according to persons experience. Certainly, from my perception, you couldn't call these courses hilly. This is Florida!

You obviously haven’t played Roosevelt, Truman, Volusia, Escambia, Okechobee Turtle Mound, etc..

JMintzer
12-20-2021, 09:06 AM
Actually there are SIX par 5's SIX par 4's and SIX par 3's. And the Turnpike is very noticeable and noisy with lots of tractor trailers going by. Not a great place to live. Fairways and greens are in great shape.

:bigbow::welcome:

Hence, my IIRC (if I remember correctly) comment...

I commented about the traffic noise affecting my enjoyment of the course, NOT a word about those who live nearby. That is their decision to make...

barbnick
12-20-2021, 09:48 AM
I spoke with a non-Villages acquaintance who has been down to visit friends and golf in The Villages several dozen times over the years. She told me that almost all the golf in The Villages are flat courses filled with par three holes.

Since I've only golfed a couple executive courses, do those who have golfed more of TV find her claim to be fairly accurate?

That would certainly explain the reported 2011 statistic of over 1,800 (5 per day!) holes-in-one on TV courses.
Not true

Gullwing
12-21-2021, 08:15 AM
This is the beauty of the village’s. Executive courses are rated 1-4. 4’s are most difficult. Take your choice. Roosevelt, Truman, escambie, Sandhill, turtle mound, and volusia can not be considered flat.

justjim
12-21-2021, 12:18 PM
The Villages course designers have designed the executive courses and Championship courses with enough tee boxes to make any course as much of a challenge as you dare to take. Over the last several years, I have observed many golfers taking on more of a challenge than they can reasonably handle especially on the championship courses and occasionally on the executive courses too. Some seem to have forgotten that golf is suppose to be fun (especially at our age) instead of an ego trip turned into a frustrating activity. We have all seen it. Recently I played with a fellow golfer who played from the black tees and was cursing by the third hole because he had made two triple bogies in a row. It was more than obvious from his skill level that he was playing from the wrong set of tees. It wasn’t fun for him or us who were playing, not only for fun, but from the correct set of tees. There are more than enough hills, sand, water and tee boxes on the The Villages golf courses to be a challenge and for all to have fun. Fore!

Dgodin
12-22-2021, 09:05 AM
There are more executive courses than championship but the courses are definitely not flat.

cj1040
12-25-2021, 09:18 AM
Executive greens are so wavy, that it's hard to improve my scores.

They are wavy with lots of rock, pond, landscape and sand trap opportunities. They are a challenge, beautiful and lots of fun !

lmack
12-25-2021, 09:35 AM
Thank you Luggage, yes - my question was serious. I am the OP. The "jealous non-villager" is a friend of mine. I know where she lives, and I know the golf courses she golfs . She lives in a community very much like the villages only much smaller. And on a huge lake full of boating and skiing and tubing. Tellico Village in Tennessee. The three golf 18-hole golf courses they have are meticulous and gorgeous and challenging, filled with very few par-3's. The terrain undulates and moves uphill, downhill, through and over deep gulches and across water. Not ponds, but a large body of lake water. A former New Yorker, she is not jealous of The Villages because she already lives in a similar place but does not care for the crowds and congestion compared to her current area.

Anyhow, the entire purpose of the post was because she mentioned her opinion of the courses in the Villages and since I have only golfed a very few of them, I thought I would validate / invalidate her opinion by gathering intel from those of you who have golfed far more than just a few of the courses in The Villages.

Thank you all for your input and insights.

The executive courses are rated, 1-4 I believe, 4 being more difficult. As one commenter mentioned, perhaps she’s been on one’s. The harder the exec course, the more likely to have 1-2 oar 4’s.

That said, as many commented, fl is not like her tn topography. But I’d suggest she try Roosevelt or Truman next time here. Then there is volusia, escambia, okeechobee that have some more hilly holes but I don’t believe there difficulty is rated as high as Truman/Roosevelt (going from memory tho, fyi).

Tklink88
01-04-2022, 11:17 AM
When one plays golf in Florida they can expect to play on flat courses. Whether you play on Executive Courses or Championship courses the topography is generally flat.
I don't know why your non-Villages acquaintance would come here to play golf if she doesn't care for the par three and/or flat courses. There are golf courses here for every level of play and for over 100,000 golfers this works just fine.





I spoke with a non-Villages acquaintance who has been down to visit friends and golf in The Villages several dozen times over the years. She told me that almost all the golf in The Villages are flat courses filled with par three holes.

Since I've only golfed a couple executive courses, do those who have golfed more of TV find her claim to be fairly accurate?

That would certainly explain the reported 2011 statistic of over 1,800 (5 per day!) holes-in-one on TV courses.

RuthA
01-15-2022, 09:43 AM
Not all the courses are flat. Truman and Roosevelt, Volusia, Escambia, Okeechobee, are some Exec. courses that have hills. Many of the championship courses are relatively flat but some, including Orange Blossom and Mallory have some hills. One explanation for so many hole in ones are the multiple tee boxes with the forward tees on many of the Executive course par 3's being between 50-90 yards.