Golf cart access

[me4vt]

I’m new here to the area and have a suggestion that may have been discussed in the past. Have the Villages ever thought of selling Golf Cart Passes to the neighboring communities? It would pretty much be a Win Win program for all involved. The Villages would have a nice cash flow yearly and neighboring communities would have access to all of The Villages Golf Cart trails and business. Which in turn generates tax dollars and extra monies within the Villages. Again, this may have already been proposed in the past but, maybe the turnover of New residents over the years might make this possible. Just thinking like $50.00 a year for an access Pass from the neighboring communities. Thanks for Your time.

[ElDiabloJoe]

I'm'a gonna go out on a limb here with some thoughts. They are not necessarily the Developer's thoughts, or others here. In fact, they probably aren't.

The entire point of The Villages, including all the golf courses, and all the amenities, is very simple. To make money, primarily by selling houses. The Villages is owned by a family in the business of real estate development.

EVERYthing else they do, EVERYthing, is to make their development more attractive so it sells for as much as they can get. That is the entire point of the exercise, IMHO.

That being said, why on earth would they make neighboring (and competing) developments more attractive by allowing them access to amenities The Villages planned, built, and paid for? I assume that's why they do not allow non-resident / non-employees to utilize their highly ranked schools either. The $50/month or any other "non-resident access" fee would take forever and many many users to offset the thousands in profits of selling someone a house instead.

I'd be interested to hear other peoples' thoughts on the topic.

[kathyspear]

I'm sure the business owners in TV would love it, as would the developers of the other communities. They would be able to sell their homes as being comparable to TV homes but less expensive " ... and for just $50 a year you can have golf cart access TV." Our developer, however, is not likely to do anything that might convince a prospective home buyer to choose a less expensive home outside The Villages. Personally, it wouldn't bother me at all but I'm sure many of our friends here on the forum feel differently.

kathy

[Bill14564]

What would a Golf Cart Pass do? The only way a golf cart pass would make any sense is if there were golf-cart-only gates that led out of the Villages to surrounding neighborhoods. The only one I am aware of currently is up in the historic section.

That gate in the historic section works with the same card that opens all the vehicle gates. In other threads you can find someone to clone one of those cards for about $30. If more golf cart gates were added using the same cards then it is highly likely the clones would pull in far more money than official Villages passes.

On the other hand, if a separate pass system was created for just the golf cart gates then there would be a need to carry two cards, one for the external gates and one for the internal gates. This would cause confusion since the cards would likely look the same. Plus, there is little to keep someone from cloning and selling the second set of cards as well and again, not much income for the Villages.

What would be the appeal to allowing neighboring golf carts into the Villages anyway? The fun of exploring the MMPs? The convenience of golf carting rather than driving? More available parking? Easier access to pools and rec centers? All of these are part of what I believe I am paying for with my amenity fee. Why would the residents, the CDD, or the developer want to allow non-Villagers access to what I have to pay for? Sure, just because they can get their golf cart to a pool doesn't mean they are allowed to use the pool, but there would be some number who would try it until they got caught (if ever).

[MrFlorida]

Making the Villages overrun with out of area golf carts is not a good idea for those of us who live here.

[Bogie Shooter]

I’m new here to the area and have a suggestion that may have been discussed in the past. Have the Villages ever thought of selling Golf Cart Passes to the neighboring communities? It would pretty much be a Win Win program for all involved. The Villages would have a nice cash flow yearly and neighboring communities would have access to all of The Villages Golf Cart trails and business. Which in turn generates tax dollars and extra monies within the Villages. Again, this may have already been proposed in the past but, maybe the turnover of New residents over the years might make this possible. Just thinking like $50.00 a year for an access Pass from the neighboring communities. Thanks for Your time.

“I’m new here to the area.”
Does this mean you don’t live in The Villages??

[Kenswing]

I’m new here to the area and have a suggestion that may have been discussed in the past. Have the Villages ever thought of selling Golf Cart Passes to the neighboring communities? It would pretty much be a Win Win program for all involved. The Villages would have a nice cash flow yearly and neighboring communities would have access to all of The Villages Golf Cart trails and business. Which in turn generates tax dollars and extra monies within the Villages. Again, this may have already been proposed in the past but, maybe the turnover of New residents over the years might make this possible. Just thinking like $50.00 a year for an access Pass from the neighboring communities. Thanks for Your time.
Just curious, what was your former username?

[dewilson58]

Just curious, what was your former username?

:bigbow:

[dewilson58]

[QUOTE=me4vt;2039864Just thinking like $50.00 a year for an access Pass from the neighboring communities. Thanks for Your time.[/QUOTE]

Doubt the developer is going to give up a $50,000 house/lot premium, plus profit, within The Villages for $50 so another developer can profit.

:wave:

[ElDiabloJoe]

Number one, money wasn’t the issue for sure! People’s attitude outside of the Village are the reason we chose not to be affiliated with the Village People! The Villages is just a copy of the Snobs in Hilton Head! I’d like to think only maybe 35% of the people in the Villages are living above their up bringing thinking they’re better than others🥴
I'm not saying this is the case, but this post sure makes one suspect esteem, jealousy, and self-value issues. Pointing it out to a friend, that's all.

[dewilson58]

Number one, money wasn’t the issue for sure! People’s attitude outside of the Village are the reason we chose not to be affiliated with the Village People! The Villages is just a copy of the Snobs in Hilton Head! I’d like to think only maybe 35% of the people in the Villages are living above their up bringing thinking they’re better than others🥴

Let me see if I'm following you:
You don't like most Villagers.
You decided not to live here.
Money was not the issue.
But you want to pay $50/yr to be with the Villagers.
& you hang out on ToTV to communicate with the Villagers.

Am I close??

[tophcfa]

I’m new here to the area and have a suggestion that may have been discussed in the past. Have the Villages ever thought of selling Golf Cart Passes to the neighboring communities? It would pretty much be a Win Win program for all involved. The Villages would have a nice cash flow yearly and neighboring communities would have access to all of The Villages Golf Cart trails and business. Which in turn generates tax dollars and extra monies within the Villages. Again, this may have already been proposed in the past but, maybe the turnover of New residents over the years might make this possible. Just thinking like $50.00 a year for an access Pass from the neighboring communities. Thanks for Your time.

NFW, very bad idea.

[JSR22]

Let me see if I'm following you:
You don't like most Villagers.
You decided not to live here.
Money was not the issue.
But you want to pay $50/yr to be with the Villagers.
& you hang out on ToTV to communicate with the Villagers.

Am I close??

You are 100% correct. A wannabe who wants access to our amenities. My guess the poster lives in Stonecrest and his login was Another Steve.

[CWGUY]

Doubt the developer is going to give up a $50,000 house/lot premium, plus profit, within The Villages for $50 so another developer can profit.

:wave:

:icon_wink: Let's remember the Developer does NOT sell gate cards...... just The District and twoplanekid. :popcorn:

[CFrance]

I'm confused. How would those golf carts get to TV cart paths? They can't legally drive on any of the roads that lead into TV. Amiright?

[JSR22]

I'm confused. How would those golf carts get to TV cart paths? They can't legally drive on any of the roads that lead into TV. Amiright?

They are coming from Stonecrest through the gate on the historic side with cloned cards.

[VApeople]

People’s attitude outside of the Village are the reason we chose not to be affiliated with the Village People!

Do you think any of us care why you "chose not to be affiliated with the Village People!"?

[Bilyclub]

Number one, money wasn’t the issue for sure! People’s attitude outside of the Village are the reason we chose not to be affiliated with the Village People! The Villages is just a copy of the Snobs in Hilton Head! I’d like to think only maybe 35% of the people in the Villages are living above their up bringing thinking they’re better than others🥴

Yet, you just joined TOTY. Unless this is just a new name for a regular Village hater. Go away.

[Papa_lecki]

We all know this is click bait and yet we jump in. Guy has 2 posts.

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[Bogie Shooter]

Number one, money wasn’t the issue for sure! People’s attitude outside of the Village are the reason we chose not to be affiliated with the Village People! The Villages is just a copy of the Snobs in Hilton Head! I’d like to think only maybe 35% of the people in the Villages are living above their up bringing thinking they’re better than others🥴

Did you feel the welcome mat being pulled from under your feet??

Suggest you sign up for the social media in the wonderful place you live. What, you don’t have one for all those desirable people?

[BigSteph]

As a person who pays monthly and yearly fees to live in The Villages, I don't think it would be fair see someone have the same access for a small yearly token fee.

If I didn't live in The Villages, I'd be all for a small fee to ride far and wide on a golf cart in The Villages. I might bring my sand wedge and a putter and give those wee courses a try -- why not, I look like everyone else, who would ask. A dip in pool might be fine, too, I mean, if someone asked, I say I left my card at home in, uh..., The Village of Tall Trees, yeah, that's the ticket. If asked to leave, I've got a hundred more to try.

No not everyone on a golf cart from the outside would be a grifter, but I suspect we'd see a few.

The house next to mine cost just over 275k, and the house on the other side cost a little over 700k. There is a decent mix of snobs and average Joes here. There is no need to assail us all. At the town squares we all look equally awkward dancing.

I saw GoldWingNut's video today and heard him declare that there were 2 MM tunnels at the new high school. I thought, damn, high schoolers cruising in carts -- that'll be super safe. Now people outside the villages want access. Maybe it will be safer in my car on the roundabouts!



I’m new here to the area and have a suggestion that may have been discussed in the past. Have the Villages ever thought of selling Golf Cart Passes to the neighboring communities? It would pretty much be a Win Win program for all involved. The Villages would have a nice cash flow yearly and neighboring communities would have access to all of The Villages Golf Cart trails and business. Which in turn generates tax dollars and extra monies within the Villages. Again, this may have already been proposed in the past but, maybe the turnover of New residents over the years might make this possible. Just thinking like $50.00 a year for an access Pass from the neighboring communities. Thanks for Your time.

[dewilson58]

:icon_wink: Let's remember the Developer does NOT sell gate cards...... just The District and twoplanekid. :popcorn:

Absolutely, the OP was posing the question as the Villages............jus responding to.

[Marathon Man]

Let me see if I'm following you:
You don't like most Villagers.
You decided not to live here.
Money was not the issue.
But you want to pay $50/yr to be with the Villagers.
& you hang out on ToTV to communicate with the Villagers.

Am I close??

:clap2:

[Eg_cruz]

I’m new here to the area and have a suggestion that may have been discussed in the past. Have the Villages ever thought of selling Golf Cart Passes to the neighboring communities? It would pretty much be a Win Win program for all involved. The Villages would have a nice cash flow yearly and neighboring communities would have access to all of The Villages Golf Cart trails and business. Which in turn generates tax dollars and extra monies within the Villages. Again, this may have already been proposed in the past but, maybe the turnover of New residents over the years might make this possible. Just thinking like $50.00 a year for an access Pass from the neighboring communities. Thanks for Your time.
Why would they paid for something they can do for free

[Luggage]

Comment should be about the post, not the person

[thevillages2013]

I'm confused. How would those golf carts get to TV cart paths? They can't legally drive on any of the roads that lead into TV. Amiright?

You took the words right out of my mouth👍

[NoMo50]

Short answer...No. Long answer...@&!& No.

[maggie1]

Number one, money wasn’t the issue for sure! People’s attitude outside of the Village are the reason we chose not to be affiliated with the Village People! The Villages is just a copy of the Snobs in Hilton Head! I’d like to think only maybe 35% of the people in the Villages are living above their up bringing thinking they’re better than others🥴

And there you are - the reason for your post. I was going to add my 2 cents worth by mentioning the increase in traffic in an already congested venue, but I'll save my breath to cool my soup. This is the very first time I've ever been thought of as a snob just because we live here. Oh well, sticks and stones.

[Traveling lady]

What would a Golf Cart Pass do? The only way a golf cart pass would make any sense is if there were golf-cart-only gates that led out of the Villages to surrounding neighborhoods. The only one I am aware of currently is up in the historic section.

That gate in the historic section works with the same card that opens all the vehicle gates. In other threads you can find someone to clone one of those cards for about $30. If more golf cart gates were added using the same cards then it is highly likely the clones would pull in far more money than official Villages passes.

On the other hand, if a separate pass system was created for just the golf cart gates then there would be a need to carry two cards, one for the external gates and one for the internal gates. This would cause confusion since the cards would likely look the same. Plus, there is little to keep someone from cloning and selling the second set of cards as well and again, not much income for the Villages.

What would be the appeal to allowing neighboring golf carts into the Villages anyway? The fun of exploring the MMPs? The convenience of golf carting rather than driving? More available parking? Easier access to pools and rec centers? All of these are part of what I believe I am paying for with my amenity fee. Why would the residents, the CDD, or the developer want to allow non-Villagers access to what I have to pay for? Sure, just because they can get their golf cart to a pool doesn't mean they are allowed to use the pool, but there would be some number who would try it until they got caught (if ever).

In order to clone a card, you must have a valid card. This valid card is used to set up your clone.

[Don5154]

Number one, money wasn’t the issue for sure! People’s attitude outside of the Village are the reason we chose not to be affiliated with the Village People! The Villages is just a copy of the Snobs in Hilton Head! I’d like to think only maybe 35% of the people in the Villages are living above their up bringing thinking they’re better than others🥴

If you hate Villages people so much, why would you want access to TV golf cart trails ? :bigbow:

[Sandy and Ed]

I’m new here to the area and have a suggestion that may have been discussed in the past. Have the Villages ever thought of selling Golf Cart Passes to the neighboring communities? It would pretty much be a Win Win program for all involved. The Villages would have a nice cash flow yearly and neighboring communities would have access to all of The Villages Golf Cart trails and business. Which in turn generates tax dollars and extra monies within the Villages. Again, this may have already been proposed in the past but, maybe the turnover of New residents over the years might make this possible. Just thinking like $50.00 a year for an access Pass from the neighboring communities. Thanks for Your time.
Hmm. Let me get this straight. You want to give someone who is not paying the Villages taxes and amenity fees relatively inexpensive access to our community while we foot the bill? Use the infrastructure our bond payments created? Well there is a better idea……put down your dime and buy or rent within our community instead of being a freeloading opportunist. Enjoy your residence in this fabulous community and don’t worry about creating oddball income streams for the developers.

[phousel]

Let me see if I'm following you:
You don't like most Villagers.
You decided not to live here.
Money was not the issue.
But you want to pay $50/yr to be with the Villagers.
& you hang out on ToTV to communicate with the Villagers.

Am I close??
👍😆😆😆

[Sandy and Ed]

Why would they paid for something they can do for free
Sure. Why pay your money for something you can use OPM (other people’s money) to buy. In other words why not just be a lowlife freeloader?? I don’t know.. maybe because it is classless and isn’t nice to do to a fellow human being?? Come on guy??

[gwenhwalker@yahoo.com]

We have enough traffic already without inviting other communities to add to the confusion

[richs631]

Why would anyone buy a golf cart pass. The main roads are public and the golf cart path is not monitored

[toeser]

Why would we do anything that would increase congestion and use of our trails and facilities? No thanks.

[Vermilion Villager]

Let me see if I'm following you:
You don't like most Villagers.
You decided not to live here.
Money was not the issue.
But you want to pay $50/yr to be with the Villagers.
& you hang out on ToTV to communicate with the Villagers.

Am I close??
I'm thinking....BULLSEYE!!!!!!:bigbow:

[Bilyclub]

Comment should be about the post, not the person

Nope, the OP crossed the line with their second comment and will get roasted accordingly.

[DaleDivine]

Let me see if I'm following you:
You don't like most Villagers.
You decided not to live here.
Money was not the issue.
But you want to pay $50/yr to be with the Villagers.
& you hang out on ToTV to communicate with the Villagers.

Am I close??

I think you hit the nail on the head. Just wants to hang out in TV which anybody can (so he can be a snob like the rest of us.. NOT), just can't use all of our amenities. People outside TV can use the squares, restaurants including the country club restaurants the grocery stores, and all other businesses in TV.

:blahblahblah::blahblahblah::blahblahblah:

[Waltdisney4life]

Yes I love looking down on people living outside the villages! No problem here!

[sallyg]

Sorry - but I think it's a terrible idea. Busy cart paths, less access to amenities we pay for. There have already been numerous instances of non-residents utilizing pools, dog parks, bocce courts, etc. If anything I would be in favor if stepping up security. Unlikely that anything will change.

[nhtexasrn]

Number one, money wasn’t the issue for sure! People’s attitude outside of the Village are the reason we chose not to be affiliated with the Village People! The Villages is just a copy of the Snobs in Hilton Head! I’d like to think only maybe 35% of the people in the Villages are living above their up bringing thinking they’re better than others🥴

Well, maybe if you stay in school and study really hard and work really hard all of your life, then you too may someday live in The Villages!

[Michaellinda]

Also new to TV. Still can’t figure out why I would need a golf cart. Trying hard to justify the cost versus when I would ever use it.

Loving south of 44, a car seems the best way get get anywhere, even to golf.

I can get to any store or golf much more quickly with the car. Only southern oaks makes sense for a cart.

As for other developments accessing TV by cart, why would they bother. They are likely working folks and don’t have 45 minutes to ride to Brownwood or Publix. A car ride has to be their choice mode of transportation, which allows them open access to TV.

[kkingston57]

Let me see if I'm following you:
You don't like most Villagers.
You decided not to live here.
Money was not the issue.
But you want to pay $50/yr to be with the Villagers.
& you hang out on ToTV to communicate with the Villagers.

Am I close??

Great points!

[kkingston57]

I'm confused. How would those golf carts get to TV cart paths? They can't legally drive on any of the roads that lead into TV. Amiright?

You beat me to your ?. In addition, there is nothing to prevent others to drive their personal vehicle to most of TV. Can you imagine golf cart gates all over the place like the one near Orange Blossom. I only use that gate to get gas at the WaWa gas station.

[PurePeach]

No golf cart passes for outsiders! The golf cart trails and MMDs are for Villagers and we have enough golf carts without having outsiders
in here joyriding and/or allowing their kids to drive them around here. Not to mention that they would most likely try to use our facilities as well. NO! :ohdear:

[MickiC.1784]

Very BAD idea!!! Why suggest we pay any more???

[collie1228]

Is the OP some kind of political office holder? I have to say, that's the first time I've ever seen a tax proposal sold as a win-win. As far as I can see, for me (the proposed tax payer) it's a win-lose!

[Himmelein]

I'm'a gonna go out on a limb here with some thoughts. They are not necessarily the Developer's thoughts, or others here. In fact, they probably aren't.

The entire point of The Villages, including all the golf courses, and all the amenities, is very simple. To make money, primarily by selling houses. The Villages is owned by a family in the business of real estate development.

EVERYthing else they do, EVERYthing, is to make their development more attractive so it sells for as much as they can get. That is the entire point of the exercise, IMHO.

That being said, why on earth would they make neighboring (and competing) developments more attractive by allowing them access to amenities The Villages planned, built, and paid for? I assume that's why they do not allow non-resident / non-employees to utilize their highly ranked schools either. The $50/month or any other "non-resident access" fee would take forever and many many users to offset the thousands in profits of selling someone a house instead.

I'd be interested to hear other peoples' thoughts on the topic.

Not sure how this would benefit anyone. One big issue is outside neigborhoods do not necessarily connect to TV paths etc.
How could this be enforced?. No one is required to register carts in TV and no one wants that hassle to start. Also, legally Carts can only access certain roads and this would limit access.
If you live here, the opportunity for the developers to get more cash flow is not a high prioirty.
Last, if you talking about Cart path access that is one thing, but to allow use of Rec Centers etc is not going to be well recieved and cannot see that happening wiith a residents uprising against the idea.
Interesting topic.

[Bear1]

Just what we need, more charges!

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Number one, money wasn’t the issue for sure! People’s attitude outside of the Village are the reason we chose not to be affiliated with the Village People! The Villages is just a copy of the Snobs in Hilton Head! I’d like to think only maybe 35% of the people in the Villages are living above their up bringing thinking they’re better than others🥴
And yet your here on the talk of villages web site. I like to think that 35% of villagers are wondering why ???

[ditka41]

Perhaps the OP is making a stunning effort at stupidity? A very strong contender for the '2021 Darwin Award', in my opinion. Don't know why we are wasting time reading and responding to this nonsense, but I got sucked in and feel better now. Happy Holidays!

[Moderator]

No reason for this one to continue.

Moderator