Interesting read....

[Koapaka]

Well, looks like some of that "don't worry about a thing it's all good" reporting might be a tad bit premature....Do you know what's in your blood? New EPA docs show widespread risk from common chemicals (https://www.yahoo.com/news/know-whats-blood-epa-docs-090039912.html)

[La lamy]

I've always been weary of teflon. I try to not use those pans coated with it best I can. Never heard of textiles that use that chemical. Thanks for sharing this story.

[Koapaka]

I've always been weary of teflon. I try to not use those pans coated with it best I can. Never heard of textiles that use that chemical. Thanks for sharing this story.

Yeah, cant help but remember how wonderful it was considered when it first came out...no more brillo pads. How much of that peeled off into our eggs each morning with breakfast....:(

[rlcooper70]

You might be better off waiting before you panic. "Likely" is not definitive for one thing. And secondly, it was the binder chemical for Teflon that was the problem - and only when the Teflon has been scratched through was that binder chemical exposed to the food. Best advice is to keep your immune system strong - perhaps by resisting worrying about stuff that may or may not be a problem. These articles about "likely" problems are meant to create fear. That's our media. Sorry.

[MandoMan]

Well, looks like some of that "don't worry about a thing it's all good" reporting might be a tad bit premature....Do you know what's in your blood? New EPA docs show widespread risk from common chemicals (https://www.yahoo.com/news/know-whats-blood-epa-docs-090039912.html)

The source, Yahoo News, borrowing from USA Today, is alarmist and uses numbers in a less than fair way. The amount of this stuff in a factory that makes it or in a town water supply where the chemical is seeping in from factory runoff is wildly higher and more dangerous than in water that has a few parts per trillion of the chemical.

The article says, “In 2016, the EPA created an advisory level for the chemical in drinking water of no more than 70 parts per trillion (ppt). But Bartell’s calculations showed that somebody drinking the chemical at that amount for a decade faced a 16% higher risk of developing kidney cancer than someone drinking none.” But put that in perspective. That does NOT mean that 16% of those who have it in their water supply will get kidney cancer. About one person in 4,224 people per year gets kidney cancer. About one in 14,000 people DIE of kidney cancer per year. So more than two-thirds of those who get it survive it. So, it’s 16% more than one in 4,224.

Of course, people continue to eat rice, much of which has a small amount of arsenic in it that stays in the system. People continue to eat seafood that lives by filtering impurities from sea water. They continue to eat top-of-the-food-chain fish that may have poisonous mercury in it, or other chemicals. They continue to use herbal supplements that can poison them.

If you are worried about this, get rid of any cookware that has peeling Teflon coating, and don’t use metal on Teflon while cooking or cleaning. Or, switch to cast iron or stainless steel (or is stainless steel problematic these days?) Maybe get rid of your car if it has chrome on it, as chromium in your bloodstream can poison you.

Consider this: About 14,000 people per year in this country die of kidney cancer. In the past 11 weeks, 100,000 Americans died of Covid, nearly all of them unvaccinated.

[caseycasebeer]

Interesting, and potentially a broad topic.
One issue that I’m trying to follow is the newly(?) developed mRNA feature in Covid 19 Moderna & Pfizer vaccines.
Dr Robert Malone (mRNA developer) has suggested there may be some serious down-the-road realities with mRNA use. Something known as “spike protein’s” seem to be the biggest concern.
Any comments?

[retiredguy123]

Yeah, cant help but remember how wonderful it was considered when it first came out...no more brillo pads. How much of that peeled off into our eggs each morning with breakfast....:(
Some people still use metal brushes to clean a grill. A piece of the metal brush in a burger can kill you.

[Bethwill]

This is NOT new. We got rid of our peeling Teflon years ago. Replaced fry pans with copper ones. They are the best. Easy clean up and go from stove top to oven.

[GeriS]

You might be better off waiting before you panic. "Likely" is not definitive for one thing. And secondly, it was the binder chemical for Teflon that was the problem - and only when the Teflon has been scratched through was that binder chemical exposed to the food. Best advice is to keep your immune system strong - perhaps by resisting worrying about stuff that may or may not be a problem. These articles about "likely" problems are meant to create fear. That's our media. Sorry.
It's definitely not one thing. Stuff has been in the sky, water, food, meds, etc.

[Brondrisek]

To Kill A Mockingbird. I read it as a young girl and as a person who was completely unaware of life outside my world. It shocked me and opened my eyes. I’m grateful.

[nn0wheremann]

Well, looks like some of that "don't worry about a thing it's all good" reporting might be a tad bit premature....Do you know what's in your blood? New EPA docs show widespread risk from common chemicals (https://www.yahoo.com/news/know-whats-blood-epa-docs-090039912.html)
To quote The Bard, “Double double toil and trouble / fire burn and cauldron bubble.” So at least the cauldron is non-stick, and what you are wearing is stain resistant.

[waterflower]

Over the target...big pharma does not care about your health...only their shareholders..follow the money trail.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

My granny was so afraid of cancer, she wouldn't come within ten feet of a microwave oven.
NO Way she would eat anything that came out of one.
You guessed it, she died of cancer.

[bobm3]

Note that the person who died from cancer was exposed to “a Teflon-like substance”, not Teflon per se. There is a class of chemicals called PFAS, which includes PFOA, that are a great concern as carcinogens. Almost all of us have PFAS in our system. They are used in many consumer items, such as anti-stick, anti-stain and water-resistant coatings on fabrics and even food packaging. Over 6,000 different PFAS are used around the world.

The person mentioned in the article worked a textile factory and was undoubtedly exposed to high levels of PFAS. There are many substances that we are exposed to that are very dangerous in high levels. The likelihood of getting cancer from the low levels we experience is remote. We cannot avoid these chemicals. Secondhand smoke is probably a greater risk.

I see no point in worrying about something that cannot be avoided and is very unlikely to cause me harm.

[Gulfcoast]

We have used stainless steel pans with copper bottoms for a long time. I tried the Teflon coated pans years ago and really disliked the flakiness of them, as well as, the weird film that develops when you simmer (not scald) milk for various recipes. I never get that strange film when I'm cooking in my stainless pots.

[COLTempleton]

Interesting, and potentially a broad topic.
One issue that I’m trying to follow is the newly(?) developed mRNA feature in Covid 19 Moderna & Pfizer vaccines.
Dr Robert Malone (mRNA developer) has suggested there may be some serious down-the-road realities with mRNA use. Something known as “spike protein’s” seem to be the biggest concern.
Any comments?

Just to put this in perspective, research on mRNA vaccines have been ongoing since the 1950s. COVID vaccines have been given to dogs annually for years. To my knowledge, spike proteins are present in all coronaviruses.
Get facts about vaccines and viruses from reliable sources.
Doc Templeton, DVM, PhD, DABT

[Rodneysblue]

You might be better off waiting before you panic. "Likely" is not definitive for one thing. And secondly, it was the binder chemical for Teflon that was the problem - and only when the Teflon has been scratched through was that binder chemical exposed to the food. Best advice is to keep your immune system strong - perhaps by resisting worrying about stuff that may or may not be a problem. These articles about "likely" problems are meant to create fear. That's our media. Sorry.
Yep, the sky is falling!

[GypsyRN]

To Kill A Mockingbird. I read it as a young girl and as a person who was completely unaware of life outside my world. It shocked me and opened my eyes. I’m grateful.

What??? Posting to wrong thread??

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Lucky for me I’ve never cooked and don’t have any pots or pan .

[davem4616]

Over the target...big pharma does not care about your health...only their shareholders..follow the money trail.

and I'm no so sure that they care that much about their shareholders....

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Interesting, and potentially a broad topic.
One issue that I’m trying to follow is the newly(?) developed mRNA feature in Covid 19 Moderna & Pfizer vaccines.
Dr Robert Malone (mRNA developer) has suggested there may be some serious down-the-road realities with mRNA use. Something known as “spike protein’s” seem to be the biggest concern.
Any comments?

1. It's not "newly" anything, the technology has been around for a couple of decades.

2. The vaccine itself is almost two years old now.

3. The "spike proteins" scare was been thoroughly debunked a year ago. The only people who still believe that's a "thing" to be concerned about are people who believe everything Breitbart tells them and doesn't ever listen to, read, or watch any actual licensed medical professionals or research scientists of bona-fide valid clinical studies.

[fdpaq0580]

Lucky for me I’ve never cooked and don’t have any pots or pan .

What about restaurants or homes where you have had a cooked meal???😱😱😱

[Speedie]

Just to put this in perspective, research on mRNA vaccines have been ongoing since the 1950s. COVID vaccines have been given to dogs annually for years. To my knowledge, spike proteins are present in all coronaviruses.
Get facts about vaccines and viruses from reliable sources.
Doc Templeton, DVM, PhD, DABT

Agree!! Plus the new human vaccine may become a new avenue for cancer treatments/ cures. Research is underway!!

[golfing eagles]

Just to put this in perspective, research on mRNA vaccines have been ongoing since the 1950s. COVID vaccines have been given to dogs annually for years. To my knowledge, spike proteins are present in all coronaviruses.
Get facts about vaccines and viruses from reliable sources.
Doc Templeton, DVM, PhD, DABT

So, according to this post, some veterinarian is a "reliable source" for information on human vaccines and viruses???:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

How reliable---let's see, "research on mRNA vaccines have been ongoing since the 1950s." Quite interesting since messenger RNA itself wasn't discovered until the 1960's and research into using it as a vaccine wasn't started until 20-30 years later.

I hope THAT puts it "in perspective"

[Two Bills]

The only thing Dr Robert Malone discovered was Dr Robert Malone.
The man is a kook!

[cherylncliff]

The studies to date are inconclusive and relate to the reagents used to make Teflon, not Teflon itself. Read the article from the American Cancer Society

Perfluorooctanoic Acid (PFOA), Teflon, and Related Chemicals (https://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancer-causes/teflon-and-perfluorooctanoic-acid-pfoa.html)

[Rose Ann Vinci Igoe]

The source, Yahoo News, borrowing from USA Today, is alarmist and uses numbers in a less than fair way. The amount of this stuff in a factory that makes it or in a town water supply where the chemical is seeping in from factory runoff is wildly higher and more dangerous than in water that has a few parts per trillion of the chemical.

The article says, “In 2016, the EPA created an advisory level for the chemical in drinking water of no more than 70 parts per trillion (ppt). But Bartell’s calculations showed that somebody drinking the chemical at that amount for a decade faced a 16% higher risk of developing kidney cancer than someone drinking none.” But put that in perspective. That does NOT mean that 16% of those who have it in their water supply will get kidney cancer. About one person in 4,224 people per year gets kidney cancer. About one in 14,000 people DIE of kidney cancer per year. So more than two-thirds of those who get it survive it. So, it’s 16% more than one in 4,224.

Of course, people continue to eat rice, much of which has a small amount of arsenic in it that stays in the system. People continue to eat seafood that lives by filtering impurities from sea water. They continue to eat top-of-the-food-chain fish that may have poisonous mercury in it, or other chemicals. They continue to use herbal supplements that can poison them.

If you are worried about this, get rid of any cookware that has peeling Teflon coating, and don’t use metal on Teflon while cooking or cleaning. Or, switch to cast iron or stainless steel (or is stainless steel problematic these days?) Maybe get rid of your car if it has chrome on it, as chromium in your bloodstream can poison you.

Consider this: About 14,000 people per year in this country die of kidney cancer. In the past 11 weeks, 100,000 Americans died of Covid, nearly all of them unvaccinated.
Years ago, you heard of the toxic waste in our water from leakage from chemical plants, chemicals add into our food, hormones to make fatter meats, chicken, veg's. Our water that IS approved to drink, is still to loaded for me. I have an OSMOSIS system for drinking... You just have to be educated enough to be 'selective' on your foods (whole foods) pure water, no heating plastic in microwaves... its out there...

[tophcfa]

Lucky for me I’ve never cooked and don’t have any pots or pan .

That’s even worse, if you cook for yourself you are in control. When you eat all your meals out, God only knows what you’re actually eating or how it’s prepared. Do you think the people preparing your food give a rats a$$ weather or not it’s healthy for you?

[Sabella]

Agree!! Plus the new human vaccine may become a new avenue for cancer treatments/ cures. Research is underway!!

Really - if the vaccine is so safe( NO ONE -DOCTORS - Scientists- microbiologists etc.) have any idea about long term effects. If it is so safe why is it being forced on us under an emergency exception and no one IS allowed tO SUE the drug companies, the government etc..

[Abelardo]

If you want a good understanding of Teflon, suggest you watch the movie “Dark Waters”
It’s a true story and an eye opener.

[Luggage]

I stopped worrying about everything when they came out 30 years ago and said that grilling your burger can cause cancer

[irishwonone]

Well, looks like some of that "don't worry about a thing it's all good" reporting might be a tad bit premature....Do you know what's in your blood? New EPA docs show widespread risk from common chemicals (https://www.yahoo.com/news/know-whats-blood-epa-docs-090039912.html)
Interesting. I do remember Teflon pans being the latest new technology as a kid. Then later how they were not safe and disappeared from market.
It amazes me the numbers of pill advertisements on tv here in the Villages along with well known individuals who are in their advertisements. Yes none of the advertised are FDA approved. IMO these should never be allowed on tv.

[Lindsyburnsy]

Some cable "news" channels won't even cover the Jan 6th Insurrection. Let's not show what's going on.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

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[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

That’s even worse, if you cook for yourself you are in control. When you eat all your meals out, God only knows what you’re actually eating or how it’s prepared. Do you think the people preparing your food give a rats a$$ weather or not it’s healthy for you?I eat nuts, fruit , salads , protein drinks and start the day with 100 % liquid whole eggs , yes I eat out or get takeout but I eat very little meat , I’m 83 and take no meds and I’m 136lbs so I must be doing something right . I lived outside USA for most of 40 years , someone else cooked after retiring 23 years ago I didn’t feel the need to learn , just like I didn’t fell the need to learn how to fix anything in the house or to mow a lawn or trim bushes

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

[QUOTE=fdpaq0580;2040632]What about restaurants or homes where you have had a cooked meal???😱😱😱[/QUOTE lived most of 40 years outside USA in 3rd world hot spots I don’t think there were many Teflon pans, I never eat meals at other peoples homes and a romantic meal for me is not someone’s home cooking it’s in a restaurant

[Kalasun]

Just to put this in perspective, research on mRNA vaccines have been ongoing since the 1950s. COVID vaccines have been given to dogs annually for years. To my knowledge, spike proteins are present in all coronaviruses.

Get facts about vaccines and viruses from reliable sources.
Doc Templeton, DVM, PhD, DABT

The 100 frontline doctors seem to agree that the real concern is the spike protein. Very transmissible since these are sticky.
They have a website. For info.

[Kalasun]

Just to put this in perspective, research on mRNA vaccines have been ongoing since the 1950s. COVID vaccines have been given to dogs annually for years. To my knowledge, spike proteins are present in all coronaviruses.
Get facts about vaccines and viruses from reliable sources.
Doc Templeton, DVM, PhD, DABT
Have you seen the discussion about CRISPR technology? It gives perspective when the DNA is being manipulated. Some 2 years ago Kim.com says this is the greatest risk today world pop. He rarely posts something like this. He is known worldwide as THE technology guru.

[LG999]

Well, looks like some of that "don't worry about a thing it's all good" reporting might be a tad bit premature....Do you know what's in your blood? New EPA docs show widespread risk from common chemicals (https://www.yahoo.com/news/know-whats-blood-epa-docs-090039912.html)

Thank you for posting this info. I have an under sink water filter mostly for metals and particulates. I don't think these chemicals are included.