The Villages is (in)famous again.

[EdFNJ]

There was another article in the papers and lots of mention on TV (television) about The Villages Monday, Tues & Wed. . Three Village folks (doewsn't seem to be any connection between them) arrested for voting twice in the presidential election complete with names and photos. Their duplicate votes were not counted because the system worked as it is supposed to. . The latenight folks have been having a blast with it. Sadly another black mark for The Villages despite it was only 3 who got caught. Colbert's show Wed night monologue had a couple minutes on "life in The Villages." Funny and sad but true.

Edited 12/18 to add:
I have requested this thread be closed. It's so sad but when folks get older, the second thing to go is their sense of humor and the inability to look in the mirror and laugh at themselves. Or maybe that's just a "local thing?" I haven't seen as much as I see here in other places.

This comment from another poster pretty much covers my original intent: I don’t understand why people are so uptight about Colbert having a little fun at the expense of the villages way of life , for as long as I can remember comedians have gotten laughs about senior citizens living in Florida ,it’s didn’t just start with the villages.

[Bogie Shooter]

There was another article in the papers and lots of mention on TV (television) about The Villages Monday, Tues & Wed. . Three Village folks (doewsn't seem to be any connection between them) arrested for voting twice in the presidential election complete with names and photos. Their duplicate votes were not counted because the system worked as it is supposed to. . The latenight folks have been having a blast with it. Sadly another black mark for The Villages despite it was only 3 who got caught. Colbert's show Wed night monologue had a couple minutes on "life in The Villages." Funny and sad but true.

Only 3, you know of more?

[EdFNJ]

Only 3, you know of more? Don't know of any other than what the news is reporting, But where there is smoke there is usually fire.

[Boomer]

There was another article in the papers and lots of mention on TV (television) about The Villages Monday, Tues & Wed. . Three Village folks (doewsn't seem to be any connection between them) arrested for voting twice in the presidential electibaaaaaad.on complete with names and photos. Their duplicate votes were not counted because the system worked as it is supposed to. . The latenight folks have been having a blast with it. Sadly another black mark for The Villages despite it was only 3 who got caught. Colbert's show Wed night monologue had a couple minutes on "life in The Villages." Funny and sad but true.



I wonder if they feel sheepish. I wonder if they feel baaaaad.

Mugshots and a skewering by Colbert. I saw it. It might be online now.

Boomer

[DAVES]

There was another article in the papers and lots of mention on TV (television) about The Villages Monday, Tues & Wed. . Three Village folks (doewsn't seem to be any connection between them) arrested for voting twice in the presidential election complete with names and photos. Their duplicate votes were not counted because the system worked as it is supposed to. . The latenight folks have been having a blast with it. Sadly another black mark for The Villages despite it was only 3 who got caught. Colbert's show Wed night monologue had a couple minutes on "life in The Villages." Funny and sad but true.

I'm surprised the moderators allow this. The election is over. Colbert as a balanced news source? Hum, people run from New Jersey and want to turn Florida into what the RAN from?

[Papa_lecki]

There was another article in the papers and lots of mention on TV (television) about The Villages Monday, Tues & Wed. . Three Village folks (doewsn't seem to be any connection between them) arrested for voting twice in the presidential election complete with names and photos. Their duplicate votes were not counted because the system worked as it is supposed to. . The latenight folks have been having a blast with it. Sadly another black mark for The Villages despite it was only 3 who got caught. Colbert's show Wed night monologue had a couple minutes on "life in The Villages." Funny and sad but true.

WOW - three, really? Out of 150,000 people. That must have really swung the election.
Good to know the only place cheating happens in TV.

[dewilson58]

WOW - three, really? Out of 150,000 people. That must have really swung the election.
Good to know the only place cheating happens in TV.

Agree.

Not sure who really watches those late night shows anyway.

[Topspinmo]

Who’s Colbert? LOL.

[dewilson58]

Who’s Colbert? LOL.

Sesame Street, Ernie's friend.

[manaboutown]

Who’s Colbert? LOL.

Never heard of her or him.

[Nucky]

I'm surprised the moderators allow this. The election is over. Colbert as a balanced news source? Hum, people run from New Jersey and want to turn Florida into what the RAN from?

The Moderators are living their lives. They are not on duty around the clock.

Do you always paint with such a wide brush DAVE? I left New Jerky and reference it from time to time but definitely don't want to bring the Jersey ways South. Not a chance. There are a whole lot of New Jersey people who are fine people. We just don't take any grief from anybody, ever. NEXT! :boxing2:

Colbert = NOTHING. Not worth the sweat off a grape. :1rotfl: :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Boffin]

Vote early and vote often.

[metoo21]

Why don't they catch the dead people?

[MrFlorida]

If you read the article that was in the Village News, you would have saw that these three people voted twice, once in Florida, and once in their home state.... Mail in ballots were the reason, nothing to do with the Villages...

[EdFNJ]

I'm surprised the moderators allow this. The election is over. Colbert as a balanced news source? Hum, people run from New Jersey and want to turn Florida into what the RAN from? It's nothing to do with Colbert or his slant on the "news." It made national news on all networks he just had a funny and almost true bit about life in the Villages from Golf Carts to shutting down early. Old folks jokes. Nothing political, just what has happened here in The Villages. You don't have to listen to the rest. Don't turn it into anything more than news about The Villages. No more or less news than the guy arrested for exposing himself.

[EdFNJ]

If you read the article that was in the Village News, you would have saw that these three people voted twice, once in Florida, and once in their home state.... Mail in ballots were the reason, nothing to do with the Villages... LOL, Nothing at all , Except that all 3 live here and all 3 first names start with a "J". That must mean something..

J.R., 61, a resident of the Village of Virginia Trace,
J.H., 72, of the Village of Palo Alto
J.K., 63, Village of Monarch Grove

[Stu from NYC]

For some reason the national media hates the villages and bad mouths us every chance they get

[ithos]

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[Chi-Town]

It will be interesting to see their outcome.

Three Republican voters in a retirement community have been arrested on charges of casting multiple ballots.

Jay Ketcik, Joan Halstead and John Rider, all residents of The Villages have been apprehended by police for voter fraud. Ketcik, 63, allegedly voted by mail in Florida last October 2020. But according to another ballot, Ketcik also voted in his home state of Michigan, court records indicate. Joan Halstead, 71, was arrested two weeks ago for allegedly voting in Florida last year but also through an absentee ballot in New York. John Rider, 61, was earlier this month arrested on suspicion of casting two ballots, though the details of his arrest are not fully known. Prosecutors have indicated that Rider submitted ballots both in Florida and in another state

[Papa_lecki]

It will be interesting to see their outcome.

Three Republican voters in a retirement community have been arrested on charges of casting multiple ballots.

Jay Ketcik, Joan Halstead and John Rider, all residents of The Villages have been apprehended by police for voter fraud. Ketcik, 63, allegedly voted by mail in Florida last October 2020. But according to another ballot, Ketcik also voted in his home state of Michigan, court records indicate. Joan Halstead, 71, was arrested two weeks ago for allegedly voting in Florida last year but also through an absentee ballot in New York. John Rider, 61, was earlier this month arrested on suspicion of casting two ballots, though the details of his arrest are not fully known. Prosecutors have indicated that Rider submitted ballots both in Florida and in another state

Actually, according to the Villages-News…John Rider….” He is registered as a voter with No Party Affiliation in Sumter County”

[Zenmama18]

Don't know of any other than what the news is reporting, But where there is smoke there is usually fire.
Makes me wonder how many didn't get caught.

[thevillages2013]

Makes me wonder how many didn't get caught.

Unfortunately voting doesn’t matter anymore anyway

[Life as I know it]

These people show us it’s not what they do, it’s what they are…..that is the real problem.

[ithos]

Does anybody believe that there was only three incidences of voter fraud that occurred in an election where over 11 million votes were cast? And all in one county?

The main point is that Sumter County may have the most honest government in the state.

[rustyp]

7 million plus three. I'm running out of fingers and toes.

[DIRTYSECRET]

I'm wondering whaat happened to Mr. Midnight.

[lpkruege1]

WOW - three, really? Out of 150,000 people. That must have really swung the election.
Good to know the only place cheating happens in TV.

Funny how they can only find them when they want to find them, isn't it?

[La lamy]

I wonder if they feel sheepish. I wonder if they feel baaaaad.

Mugshots and a skewering by Colbert. I saw it. It might be online now.

Boomer

Couldn't find it online this morning.

[irishwonone]

There was another article in the papers and lots of mention on TV (television) about The Villages Monday, Tues & Wed. . Three Village folks (doewsn't seem to be any connection between them) arrested for voting twice in the presidential election complete with names and photos. Their duplicate votes were not counted because the system worked as it is supposed to. . The latenight folks have been having a blast with it. Sadly another black mark for The Villages despite it was only 3 who got caught. Colbert's show Wed night monologue had a couple minutes on "life in The Villages." Funny and sad but true.
Maybe they got mixed up and thought it was a lottery. Shame some always try to beat the system. Or perhaps these were the only people that were alive who voted twice?

[Wilson02852]

Read the article???

You must be kidding. No one wants the facts or investigates the story so they can make up their own mind. They want some biased journalist to tell them what to think.

[joelfmi]

There was another article in the papers and lots of mention on TV (television) about The Villages Monday, Tues & Wed. . Three Village folks (doewsn't seem to be any connection between them) arrested for voting twice in the presidential election complete with names and photos. Their duplicate votes were not counted because the system worked as it is supposed to. . The latenight folks have been having a blast with it. Sadly another black mark for The Villages despite it was only 3 who got caught. Colbert's show Wed night monologue had a couple minutes on "life in The Villages." Funny and sad but true.. This reporting was obviously Bias against the villages residence.

[hypart]

At least from now on when people across the country hear about the villages they'll associate us with voter fraud rather than STDs.........a win?

[rustyp]

Actually, according to the Villages-News…John Rider….” He is registered as a voter with No Party Affiliation in Sumter County”

Per Fox 13 news he changed his affiliation to "No Party" after the election.

[ThirdOfFive]

Read the article???

You must be kidding. No one wants the facts or investigates the story so they can make up their own mind. They want some biased journalist to tell them what to think.
Ya got that right. MSM have turned from informing to inflaming.

[cafw1]

Three in the WHOLE country and all in The Villages---I doubt it---this is probably the tip of the iceberg.

[cafw1]

Three in the WHOLE country and all in The Villages---I doubt it---this is probably just the tip of the iceberg.

[lildfromnyc]

Haha!

[rlcooper70]

We have 150,000 residents and some will be aberrant. Yes late night talk show hosts like to use it as banter. Yet we keep adding 350 new homes a month .... so likely they are simply advertising for the Morse family.

[Beyond The Wall]

3 out of 150,000 is like a WuFlu stay for kids

[Villages Kahuna]

[QUOTE=EdFNJ;2040683]There was another article in the papers and lots of mention on TV (television) about The Villages Monday, Tues & Wed…

I thought this thread was going to describe the more blantant attack on our democracy—the arrest and indictment of the two new Sumter County commissioners elected in 2020. They had campaigned on an anti-Developer platform centered on the reversal of the 25% increase in county property taxes and were elected in a landslide.

Their election reversed control of the county commission from one aligned with anything the Developer proposed to an independent body representing the residents and taxpayers in the county. The Developer had funded huge campaigns for their opponents, but the will of the voters was heard.

The new commissioners have done as they promised and taken the steps necessary to reverse the tax increase, opposed using every means by the Developer. In addition they have voted to resist Developer proposals to build large apartments throughout The Villages.

But now “someone” has filed a trumped-up complaint against the two newly-elected commissioners—they had phone conversations regarding county business but denied the calls to county investigators. They have been indicted for third degree perjury, a felony.

State law says that the Governor can replace local officials who face criminal charges. So watch for the two duly-elected commissioners replacement by the Governor. The Developer is a major campaign contributor to the Governor, so look for the replacement of the two new, duly-elected commissioners with people friendly to the Developer’s proposals. Expect your property taxes to take a major increase. And watch for a reversal of decisions rejecting construction of rental apartments throughout The Villages.

The Sumter County Commission will soon be returned to being lackeys to the Developer, as it has been for many years. This “complaint” against the two new commissioners is the most blantant attack on our local democracy, unimaginable really. In the short time since the election, the Developer has exerted its considerable financial resources to overturn the votes of Sumter County voters. Your vote meant nothing!

That’s the story I thought would be discussed in this thread.

[Nordhagen]

[QUOTE=EdFNJ;2040683]There was another article in the papers and lots of mention on TV (television) about The Villages Monday, Tues & Wed…

I thought this thread was going to describe the more blantant attack on our democracy—the arrest and indictment of the two new Sumter County commissioners elected in 2020. They had campaigned on an anti-Developer platform centered on the reversal of the 25% increase in county property taxes and were elected in a landslide.

Their election reversed control of the county commission from one aligned with anything the Developer proposed to an independent body representing the residents and taxpayers in the county. The Developer had funded huge campaigns for their opponents, but the will of the voters was heard.

The new commissioners have done as they promised and taken the steps necessary to reverse the tax increase, opposed using every means by the Developer. In addition they have voted to resist Developer proposals to build large apartments throughout The Villages.

But now “someone” has filed a trumped-up complaint against the two newly-elected commissioners—they had phone conversations regarding county business but denied the calls to county investigators. They have been indicted for third degree perjury, a felony.

State law says that the Governor can replace local officials who face criminal charges. So watch for the two duly-elected commissioners replacement by the Governor. The Developer is a major campaign contributor to the Governor, so look for the replacement of the two new, duly-elected commissioners with people friendly to the Developer’s proposals. Expect your property taxes to take a major increase. And watch for a reversal of decisions rejecting construction of rental apartments throughout The Villages.

The Sumter County Commission will soon be returned to being lackeys to the Developer, as it has been for many years. This “complaint” against the two new commissioners is the most blantant attack on our local democracy, unimaginable really. In the short time since the election, the Developer has exerted its considerable financial resources to overturn the votes of Sumter County voters. Your vote meant nothing!

That’s the story I thought would be discussed in this thread.

[Lindsyburnsy]

Now we are starting down the conspiracy theory path that lots of dead people voted. There was at least one, and he was a conservative who voted for his dead wife.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

I don’t understand why people are so uptight about Colbert having a little fun at the expense of the villages way of life , for as long as I can remember comedians have gotten laughs about senior citizens living in Florida ,it’s didn’t just start with the villages.I also think rightly or wrongly that we receive a little more interest when bumper stickers start appearing the day after an election for another one in 4 years

[tophcfa]

[QUOTE=EdFNJ;2040683]There was another article in the papers and lots of mention on TV (television) about The Villages Monday, Tues & Wed…

I thought this thread was going to describe the more blantant attack on our democracy—the arrest and indictment of the two new Sumter County commissioners elected in 2020. They had campaigned on an anti-Developer platform centered on the reversal of the 25% increase in county property taxes and were elected in a landslide.

Their election reversed control of the county commission from one aligned with anything the Developer proposed to an independent body representing the residents and taxpayers in the county. The Developer had funded huge campaigns for their opponents, but the will of the voters was heard.

The new commissioners have done as they promised and taken the steps necessary to reverse the tax increase, opposed using every means by the Developer. In addition they have voted to resist Developer proposals to build large apartments throughout The Villages.

But now “someone” has filed a trumped-up complaint against the two newly-elected commissioners—they had phone conversations regarding county business but denied the calls to county investigators. They have been indicted for third degree perjury, a felony.

State law says that the Governor can replace local officials who face criminal charges. So watch for the two duly-elected commissioners replacement by the Governor. The Developer is a major campaign contributor to the Governor, so look for the replacement of the two new, duly-elected commissioners with people friendly to the Developer’s proposals. Expect your property taxes to take a major increase. And watch for a reversal of decisions rejecting construction of rental apartments throughout The Villages.

The Sumter County Commission will soon be returned to being lackeys to the Developer, as it has been for many years. This “complaint” against the two new commissioners is the most blantant attack on our local democracy, unimaginable really. In the short time since the election, the Developer has exerted its considerable financial resources to overturn the votes of Sumter County voters. Your vote meant nothing!

That’s the story I thought would be discussed in this thread.

Unfortunately, at least two threads were recently started, that I am aware of, relating to that topic. Both of those threads rapidly disappeared. Kind of makes you wonder, a thread about absolutely nothing lasts seemingly forever, but a very important thread about relevant events effecting all Villages homeowners gets nixed in a heartbeat, hmmmmmm?

[me4vt]

Good, People who do this are No better than the! Just goes to show “The Village” People’s bubble is all in their minds!! GOD can penetrate it too😉

[Topspinmo]

The Moderators are living their lives. They are not on duty around the clock.

Do you always paint with such a wide brush DAVE? I left New Jerky and reference it from time to time but definitely don't want to bring the Jersey ways South. Not a chance. There are a whole lot of New Jersey people who are fine people. We just don't take any grief from anybody, ever. NEXT! :boxing2:

Colbert = NOTHING. Not worth the sweat off a grape. :1rotfl: :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:


Nucky, you’re 1 out of 1000 like the famous Winchester 73. :)

[BlackhawksFan]

WOW - three, really? Out of 150,000 people. That must have really swung the election.
Good to know the only place cheating happens in TV.

According to the website: Voter Fraud Map: Election Fraud Database | The Heritage Foundation (https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud) there have been 1334 documented cases of voter fraud going back almost 20 years and so far 1147 have been convicted.

You can look at the whole list or by state.

[BlackhawksFan]

According to the website: Voter Fraud Map: Election Fraud Database | The Heritage Foundation (https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud) there have been 1334 documented cases of voter fraud going back almost 20 years and so far 1147 have been convicted.

You can look at the whole list or by state.

If you search a year and or state under the case is a drop down it describes the crime and in many cases reveals the persons registered affiliation.

[Vermilion Villager]

Interesting is another Forum post 2 days ago about the 3 Villagers indicted for voter fraud....yes they were indicted was "closed" by the moderators after only 5 posts.
Yet there were several hundred posts about Ed McGinty, and that forum is still open.
Seems the people with their finger on the switch are not willing to allow posts that are critical of one but censure posts critical of 3.
I'll let the intelligent Villager read between the lines to determine what topic ties Ed with the other 3:lipsrsealed:.

[EdFNJ]

[QUOTE=Villages Kahuna;2040878]

Unfortunately, at least two threads were recently started, that I am aware of, relating to that topic. Both of those threads rapidly disappeared. Kind of makes you wonder, a thread about absolutely nothing lasts seemingly forever, but a very important thread about relevant events effecting all Villages homeowners gets nixed in a heartbeat, hmmmmmm?
I wondered why there was no mention of it. Didn't see the others. However while you and many others here might find it hard to believe there was no intention of this being a political thread and I guess I should have known better.. I just found the bit quite funny about The Villages riff on the show I mentioned. I keep forgetting where I live. I am used to just people being able to laugh at themselves when they see how others see us.

I have requested this thread be closed as well. It's so sad but when folks get older, the second thing to go is their sense of humor and the inability to look in the mirror and laugh at themselves.

[Duppman]

There was another article in the papers and lots of mention on TV (television) about The Villages Monday, Tues & Wed. . Three Village folks (doewsn't seem to be any connection between them) arrested for voting twice in the presidential election complete with names and photos. Their duplicate votes were not counted because the system worked as it is supposed to. . The latenight folks have been having a blast with it. Sadly another black mark for The Villages despite it was only 3 who got caught. Colbert's show Wed night monologue had a couple minutes on "life in The Villages." Funny and sad but true.
This is a black mark only if you believe it. Three out of 135,000.

[Love2Swim]

[QUOTE=EdFNJ;2040683]There was another article in the papers and lots of mention on TV (television) about The Villages Monday, Tues & Wed…

I thought this thread was going to describe the more blantant attack on our democracy—the arrest and indictment of the two new Sumter County commissioners elected in 2020. They had campaigned on an anti-Developer platform centered on the reversal of the 25% increase in county property taxes and were elected in a landslide.

Their election reversed control of the county commission from one aligned with anything the Developer proposed to an independent body representing the residents and taxpayers in the county. The Developer had funded huge campaigns for their opponents, but the will of the voters was heard.

The new commissioners have done as they promised and taken the steps necessary to reverse the tax increase, opposed using every means by the Developer. In addition they have voted to resist Developer proposals to build large apartments throughout The Villages.

But now “someone” has filed a trumped-up complaint against the two newly-elected commissioners—they had phone conversations regarding county business but denied the calls to county investigators. They have been indicted for third degree perjury, a felony.

State law says that the Governor can replace local officials who face criminal charges. So watch for the two duly-elected commissioners replacement by the Governor. The Developer is a major campaign contributor to the Governor, so look for the replacement of the two new, duly-elected commissioners with people friendly to the Developer’s proposals. Expect your property taxes to take a major increase. And watch for a reversal of decisions rejecting construction of rental apartments throughout The Villages.

The Sumter County Commission will soon be returned to being lackeys to the Developer, as it has been for many years. This “complaint” against the two new commissioners is the most blantant attack on our local democracy, unimaginable really. In the short time since the election, the Developer has exerted its considerable financial resources to overturn the votes of Sumter County voters. Your vote meant nothing!

That’s the story I thought would be discussed in this thread.

:bigbow:

[Gigi3000]

Maybe they just forgot they had already voted!!!! Lmao....ahemm..

[PamfromNY]

https://www.**************.com/2021/12/13/villager-who-started-drinking-at-christmas-parade-jailed-hours-later-after-golf-cart-crash/

[swooner]

Never heard of her or him.

Probably because he’s not on Fox (misinformation) News.

[Petersweeney]

I had something really important to say about this topic but I forgot what it was….oh yeah….did I vote in October or November? I can’t remember….

[Bilyclub]

[QUOTE=tophcfa;2040892]
I wondered why there was no mention of it. Didn't see the others. However while you and many others here might find it hard to believe there was no intention of this being a political thread and I guess I should have known better.. I just found the bit quite funny about The Villages riff on the show I mentioned. I keep forgetting where I live. I am used to just people being able to laugh at themselves when they see how others see us.

I have requested this thread be closed as well. It's so sad but when folks get older, the second thing to go is their sense of humor and the inability to look in the mirror and laugh at themselves.

If Colbert was funny then people would laugh. Colbert's monologue was very bad, sorta like the comedians I saw at Lazy Macs.

[rustyp]

Couldn't find it online this morning.


go to YouTube and search for "coup-dunnit"

[Boomer]

I am going to take a chance here with a segue to a suggestion for something to read.

If you are open to taking the time to read something that might cause long, hard thinking, may I suggest doing a search, a Google, with the words — “The Atlantic January 2022.”

If you do this, the chilling cover of the issue will probably be the first thing you see, followed by several articles that illuminate our country’s dangerous issues. I think you can read some of it without subscribing. It could be worth buying a hard copy. This issue is sadly historic.

I have been called names on TOTV by those who assume I am what they call me. It might surprise them to know that I am not who they think I am. “It was my party and I’ll cry if I want to.”

One of my home state’s senators is not running again. He is of the party most popular with TV voters. He is a decent man. I have voted for him in the past. I know someone who knows him. But he is giving up. We are losing our decent politicians to be replaced by stupid puppets that have no idea what democracy means, nor do they care.

While I am at it, may I explain the irony of invoking Orwell’s 1984 as a battle cry. Those who use it must not have read the book — because in the book, the country of Oceania is governed by a totalitarian regime, an all-controlling party — that has brainwashed the people into blind obedience to their leader — Big Brother.

This post is an appeal to the intelligence I can recognize in so many posters here — but I cannot figure out why intelligent people cannot see what is happening right before our eyes.

I sincerely hope some of you will decide to find The Atlantic, January 2022, read an article or two, and think about the depth and significance of what we are seeing as democracy — and decency — are dying — fast.

Also, if you can stand quite a peppering of “bad” words, look up Trae Crowder on YouTube and let him explain a few things.

Yours truly,
Boomer — I know — on thin ice, along with others. But if only one or two posters take my suggestion for some reading — or at least watch Trae Crowder for a humorous approach, and do some further thinking on their own, it will have been worth the skate.

[Gulfcoast]

Maybe they just forgot they had already voted!!!! Lmao....ahemm..

Actually, I was wondering if it is, in fact, possible that one or more of them suffer from memory issues.

[Carla B]

We have a great democratic voting system in this country and the system does catch most, if not all, the very small percentage of those that attempt to cheat. :bigbow:

Yes. Result of Associated Press investigation finds 475 potential voter fraud cases in six states:

Far too little vote fraud to tip election to Trump, AP finds | AP News (https://apnews.com/article/voter-fraud-election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-7fcb6f134e528fee8237c7601db3328f)

[Bilyclub]

There will be some more points messages going out from the mods.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Does anybody believe that there was only three incidences of voter fraud that occurred in an election where over 11 million votes were cast? And all in one county?

The main point is that Sumter County may have the most honest government in the state.

Two of the Sumter County commissioners have just been charged with perjury. If that's what "the most honest government in the state" then I'd say this is a pretty sadly-run state.

I really hope there are counties that do better.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Yes. Result of Associated Press investigation finds 475 potential voter fraud cases in six states:

Far too little vote fraud to tip election to Trump, AP finds | AP News (https://apnews.com/article/voter-fraud-election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-7fcb6f134e528fee8237c7601db3328f)

Yup - out of 25.5 million votes, they found a *potential* (not confirmed) 475 total voter fraud cases. And even if all 475 were switched to the "other" candidate, it still wouldn't have changed the outcome in any of those 6 states.

[Boomer]

ElDiabloJoe,

Huh?

I think you called me an elitist. And, btw, I am not a Progressive either.

I am just one of the endangered species — a moderate.

If you were not so hell-bent on categorizing me, you would be surprised that I agree with a lot of what you said in your paragraph that began with, “You’re wrong.” I am there with you on a lot of those points.

Your categorization of me made the assumption that I disparage the military and the police. I most certainly do not — and I resent the assumption. You could not be more wrong about that..

About my support of the military — I will say also that I sometimes think we need to bring back the draft. Why? Because our country does not seem to be able to grow men like they used to. We have too much undirected testosterone running amok. There are plenty of young women who could use some direction, too. But getting knocked up without having a clue how to parent is the name of the game.

Btw, thank you for not saying January 6 was a good thing. I have a very good friend who votes Republican come hell or high water. But he told me that he sees January 6 the same way I do. . .Of course, we all know there are those who might never do such a thing themselves — but they are still cheering for those tools, those pawns, those puppets. I watched it in real-time — and I cried. Democracy under siege. If ol’ Mitch had not called them back in, Democracy would have died that day. Now it’s in the ICU, but it survived — for now.

Are you sure you won’t take a look at the January issue of The Atlantic? If you are willing to even look at the cover, you will see why I thought it was worth taking the risk of going political in this thread.

Anyway, ElDiabloJoe, you got me so wrong, so very wrong. And — if I were a member of MENSA, I would not tell everybody. That seems elitist.

Boomer

PS: About your PS to me: Huh? I don’t know what you are talking about.

[New Englander]

Colbert is a comedian.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Colbert is a comedian.

It was a pretty funny monologue. Except for the part about going to bed by 8PM. The squares don't turn the music off til 9. The institutional food - I'm thinking he was unintentionally spot-on with that. Anyone for another Culvers?

[ElDiabloJoe]

ElDiabloJoe,

Huh?

I think you called me an elitist. And, btw, I am not a Progressive either.
]Pretty sure I didn't call anyone a name. That would be a TOS violation.

I am just one of the endangered species — a moderate.
Funny, when compared to communists, even leftist liberals consider themselves "moderates."

If you were not so hell-bent on categorizing me, you would be surprised that I agree with a lot of what you said in your paragraph that began with, “You’re wrong.” I am there with you on a lot of those points.
I am pleased to read this, and perhaps my reply was worded a bit strongly.

Your categorization of me made the assumption that I disparage the military and the police. I most certainly do not — and I resent the assumption. You could not be more wrong about that..
Very glad to hear this. I painted you with a broad brush. Perhaps too broad.

About my support of the military — I will say also that I sometimes think we need to bring back the draft. Why? Because our country does not seem to be able to grow men like they used to. We have too much undirected testosterone running amok. There are plenty of young women who could use some direction, too. But getting knocked up without having a clue how to parent is the name of the game.
100% concur. In fact, I favor an Israeli style mandatory service scheme.

Btw, thank you for not saying January 6 was a good thing. I have a very good friend who votes Republican come hell or high water. But he told me that he sees January 6 the same way I do. . .Of course, we all know there are those who might never do such a thing themselves — but they are still cheering for those tools, those pawns, those puppets. I watched it in real-time — and I cried. Democracy under siege. If ol’ Mitch had not called them back in, Democracy would have died that day. Now it’s in the ICU, but it survived — for now.

Are you sure you won’t take a look at the January issue of The Atlantic? If you are willing to even look at the cover, you will see why I thought it was worth taking the risk of going political in this thread.
Pretty sure they used up their share of "getting a fair shake at being non-objective" a few years back.

Anyway, ElDiabloJoe, you got me so wrong, so very wrong. And — if I were a member of MENSA, I would not tell everybody. That seems elitist.
Just defending myself against those that consider my position "unintellectual, uneducated, and moronic." Tell me, with 100% sincerity, that wasn't what you were inferring, or at least believe/suspect.

Boomer

PS: About your PS to me: Huh? I don’t know what you are talking about.
For this, I will absolutely apologize. I hope you will accept it. I'm sorry. I mixed you up with a user possessing a similar username and by whom I've recently been insulted.


See bolded in above quote for response.

[Shutterbug]

It seems strange that 3 people were discovered voting twice but they can't dig up the dead or fake absentee ballots.

[Byte1]

Let's see, did the STD fiction scare anyone from moving here? Nope, still too many residents.
Do I think this blemish will hurt us? Nope, unfortunately we will still see the multitudes clambering to get the first bid in on a home here. This place is like the SciFi movie "The BLOB" that continues to grow as it absorbs more and more humans.
I still see it as Disneyland for seniors. As long as there is way more good than bad about this place, there will be folks standing in line for a spot in the community..

[Number 10 GI]

[QUOTE=EdFNJ;2040683]There was another article in the papers and lots of mention on TV (television) about The Villages Monday, Tues & Wed…

I thought this thread was going to describe the more blantant attack on our democracy—the arrest and indictment of the two new Sumter County commissioners elected in 2020. They had campaigned on an anti-Developer platform centered on the reversal of the 25% increase in county property taxes and were elected in a landslide.

Their election reversed control of the county commission from one aligned with anything the Developer proposed to an independent body representing the residents and taxpayers in the county. The Developer had funded huge campaigns for their opponents, but the will of the voters was heard.

The new commissioners have done as they promised and taken the steps necessary to reverse the tax increase, opposed using every means by the Developer. In addition they have voted to resist Developer proposals to build large apartments throughout The Villages.

But now “someone” has filed a trumped-up complaint against the two newly-elected commissioners—they had phone conversations regarding county business but denied the calls to county investigators. They have been indicted for third degree perjury, a felony.

State law says that the Governor can replace local officials who face criminal charges. So watch for the two duly-elected commissioners replacement by the Governor. The Developer is a major campaign contributor to the Governor, so look for the replacement of the two new, duly-elected commissioners with people friendly to the Developer’s proposals. Expect your property taxes to take a major increase. And watch for a reversal of decisions rejecting construction of rental apartments throughout The Villages.

The Sumter County Commission will soon be returned to being lackeys to the Developer, as it has been for many years. This “complaint” against the two new commissioners is the most blantant attack on our local democracy, unimaginable really. In the short time since the election, the Developer has exerted its considerable financial resources to overturn the votes of Sumter County voters. Your vote meant nothing!

That’s the story I thought would be discussed in this thread.

What's that old saying? "If you can't do the time don't do the crime."

[Pballer]

It seems strange that 3 people were discovered voting twice but they can't dig up the dead or fake absentee ballots.

I'm sure that the My Pillow buffoon and running hair dye Rudy will be able to turn it up.

[mtdjed]

Why don't they catch the dead people?

You only vote once if you are dead. They can only charge you for voting twice if you are stupid enough not to help a dead person vote.