YouTube TV

[Misky1951]

For any YouTube TV subscribers, what are you planning on doing now that they dropped Disney related content including ESPN?

I think I will give it a week or so for them to come to an agreement. I can't believe YouTube TV will let Disney, ESPN, ABC and others walk. They would lose a ton of subscribers, including me

[Velvet]

Well, I was just doing my happy dance. Won’t be so many temptations to stay inside.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Not ABC. The LOCAL ABC station. National ABC network will still be available. Meanwhile, you are actually getting a break. They're reducing the price of YouTubeTV from $64.99 to $49.99, which is a $15 savings. With that, you can pay $7.99 to sign up for Disney + and get everything you just lost - a net savings of $6.

Since we don't watch Disney channel stuff, only rarely watch anything on ESPN, and can get local news with NBC and CBS, AND because I can watch local ABC online for free, we're saving the full $15. And that's awesome.

[Mortal1]

Not ABC. The LOCAL ABC station. National ABC network will still be available. Meanwhile, you are actually getting a break. They're reducing the price of YouTubeTV from $64.99 to $49.99, which is a $15 savings. With that, you can pay $7.99 to sign up for Disney + and get everything you just lost - a net savings of $6.

Since we don't watch Disney channel stuff, only rarely watch anything on ESPN, and can get local news with NBC and CBS, AND because I can watch local ABC online for free, we're saving the full $15. And that's awesome.

the news you are getting is a bit one sided...yes?

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

the news you are getting is a bit one sided...yes?

I'll repeat this for you since you missed it in the post you actually responded to:

and can get local news with NBC and CBS, AND because I can watch local ABC online for free

Bolded and underlined for emphasis. I CAN do these things. That doesn't mean I do - I don't watch TV at all, except for Survivor because it's entertaining.

We don't get the Weather Channel so we watch the local weather - on the local forcasts. I have access to ABC online for free if I really want to, but I usually just check weather underground, which is so local the closest weather station is four blocks away from my house.

In the future, please do try to read the words you're responding to, before you respond to them. Seems to be a trend around here.

[dewilson58]

It's called negotiations.
Neither party wants to lose the revenue.
Happens 50% of the time.
:faint:

[Laker14]

It's called negotiations.
Neither party wants to lose the revenue.
Happens 50% of the time.
:faint:

Indeed. In fact they just settled a long negation with ROKU, and when I bought my smart TV a month ago, I had to go through my YouTubeTV phone app to get it on my TV. Now, however, since the negotiation has been settled, I can get it directly on the TV without the phone app.
I suspect this will get worked out, and YouTube TV will get a bump in cost.

[Vikingjunior]

Now if they could drop CNN I would be all set.

[EdFNJ]

Since we don't watch Disney channel stuff, only rarely watch anything on ESPN, and can get local news with NBC and CBS, AND because I can watch local ABC online for free, we're saving the full $15. And that's awesome.

It's only been 53 years but I'll try:

10 PRINT "Are you a Beatles fan enter Y or N?"
11 INPUT Y$
20 If Y$="Y" GOTO 40 IF Y$="N" GOTO 50
30 Rem
40 CLS
41 Print "You have to Check out GETBACK on Disney+"
42 GOTO "60"
50 CLS
51 Print "Never Mind"
60 END
REM :1rotfl:

[PoolBrews]

I'm tired of Googles games with the networks. I cancelled my subscription today and turned on Hulu Live TV.

[EdFNJ]

Not ABC. The LOCAL ABC station. National ABC network will still be available. Meanwhile, you are actually getting a break. They're reducing the price of YouTubeTV from $64.99 to $49.99, which is a $15 savings. With that, you can pay $7.99 to sign up for Disney + and get everything you just lost - a net savings of $6.

Since we don't watch Disney channel stuff, only rarely watch anything on ESPN, and can get local news with NBC and CBS, AND because I can watch local ABC online for free, we're saving the full $15. And that's awesome.
the news you are getting is a bit one sided...yes? OMG ! :1rotfl: One of the funniest comments I have heard in 4 years on TOTV! Thank you for the laugh! Didn't think anyone here had such a sense of humor!

[Nucky]

Remember how happy we all were when Streaming first became popular? Remember when YouTube TV was released at $35 bucks a month? Then It slithered up to $45 which was reasonable. Then the jump to whatever it is today which is about what I paid for a Great Direct TV package.

I remember a wise owl on TOTV'S saying I'm staying with Direct TV at the higher price that they were charging because we were all trying to figure out ROKU & FIRESTICK and were fumbling and bumbling our way thru it. Is it fair to say that eventually, they all end up being approximately the same price with their fake internal negotiations that are always solved at the last second just in a nick of time? Every channel that I'm aware of that was in peril of being lost was saved.....ooooh! A nice set-up if you ask me.

It's just a big fat pile of NOTHING. It all works out to be the same. More outta your pocket.

[Tom52]

That's just great. My team is playing in a new year's day bowl game, I just checked and it is being broadcast on ABC. So, now I won't be able to watch or record it. Thanks for nothing YouTube TV.

[Skip]

I'm tired of Googles games with the networks. I cancelled my subscription today and turned on Hulu Live TV.

You may not understand the way I do.
Disney wants a big price hike, so if you want to keep Disney, then YourTube TV goes from $69.95/month to $84.95/month. Like that?
Xfinity just pays it and raises your rate almost every year.
We saved $55/month dropping Xfinity TV.
We love YouTube TV and the Disney characters are a little, let's say - juvenile, for us.

It'll be resolved soon. Then it's NBC's turn.

Skip

[Homer49]

I'm tired of Googles games with the networks. I cancelled my subscription today and turned on Hulu Live TV.

Just what Disney was hoping for - Hulu is one of theirs and a direct competitor to YouTube TV.

[Roron123]

Agree totally! Don’t watch Disney ������

[Roron123]

Again I agree totally

[thevillages2013]

That's just great. My team is playing in a new year's day bowl game, I just checked and it is being broadcast on ABC. So, now I won't be able to watch or record it. Thanks for nothing YouTube TV.
You should be able to stream the game on Sportsurge.club. Try it on some other games before then to make sure it works for you. Who knows the dispute may be resolved by then anyway

[KSSunshine]

For any YouTube TV subscribers, what are you planning on doing now that they dropped Disney related content including ESPN?

I think I will give it a week or so for them to come to an agreement. I can't believe YouTube TV will let Disney, ESPN, ABC and others walk. They would lose a ton of subscribers, including me

YouTube lost us with the lack of customer service. We started with YouTube at $50/month. Cancelled when they jumped to $75 and tried Spectrum. Decided we were unhappy and went back to YouTube; however, they were now charging us for two subscriptions. Seems they didn't really cancel the first account. Now, we're getting charged $150 a month. To make it worse, when Google crashed on Dec 14, 2020, we thought it was a mistake with our account and signed in under a different email. But of course, Google didn't inform its' patreons that they had crashed the system.
So now we discover about 3 months later that we're paying $225 for a month of service. We recogized the problem and tried calling Google. They do not have Customer service and simply hang up and tell you to solve this online. Ok...tried that, but your problem has to fit in their check box; ours did not.

So we started working with our credit card (not the original cc that we started with, but a newer one); Fortunately, we were able to reverse most (but not all) of the months of paying for 3 services. My point is that if you have a problem, it must fit into Google's neat little idea of the only things that can go wrong. If not, your only option is to leave permanently.

We continue to get offers from YouTube, but now that they are dropping ESPN...we're happy to have found different service. Not coming back, YouTube.

[mcwood4d]

We're not too worried about it, the content is available elsewhere and there is a price break. This too shall pass 🤞🙏

[mabgo1]

Since my cell service gives me the Disney bundle I just downloaded ESPN to my Roku and I have everything I want and save money.

[bragones]

Agree totally! Don’t watch Disney ������
Disney owns rights to Monday Night Football so that’s gone. We will miss cloud recordings of ABC shows that you can watch in a fraction of time by FF through commercials. Google will be the loser here but it’s a drop in the bucket to them

[mkjelenbaas]

I'll repeat this for you since you missed it in the post you actually responded to:



Bolded and underlined for emphasis. I CAN do these things. That doesn't mean I do - I don't watch TV at all, except for Survivor because it's entertaining.

We don't get the Weather Channel so we watch the local weather - on the local forcasts. I have access to ABC online for free if I really want to, but I usually just check weather underground, which is so local the closest weather station is four blocks away from my house.

In the future, please do try to read the words you're responding to, before you respond to them. Seems to be a trend around here.
I did not respond but appreciate you telli g people how to respond!

[jimkerr]

I’ll sign up with one of my favorite IPTV services and get my channels back plus some. Not a big deal.

[ThirdOfFive]

YouTube lost us with the lack of customer service. We started with YouTube at $50/month. Cancelled when they jumped to $75 and tried Spectrum. Decided we were unhappy and went back to YouTube; however, they were now charging us for two subscriptions. Seems they didn't really cancel the first account. Now, we're getting charged $150 a month. To make it worse, when Google crashed on Dec 14, 2020, we thought it was a mistake with our account and signed in under a different email. But of course, Google didn't inform its' patreons that they had crashed the system.
So now we discover about 3 months later that we're paying $225 for a month of service. We recogized the problem and tried calling Google. They do not have Customer service and simply hang up and tell you to solve this online. Ok...tried that, but your problem has to fit in their check box; ours did not.

So we started working with our credit card (not the original cc that we started with, but a newer one); Fortunately, we were able to reverse most (but not all) of the months of paying for 3 services. My point is that if you have a problem, it must fit into Google's neat little idea of the only things that can go wrong. If not, your only option is to leave permanently.

We continue to get offers from YouTube, but now that they are dropping ESPN...we're happy to have found different service. Not coming back, YouTube.
I'm thinking back to about 1955 or so: living in the wilds of Northern Minnesota and our little 19" black-and-white TV. We got ONE channel, An ABC Network affiliate out of Duluth, MN with a translator in Hibbing, about 50 miles away from where we lived. I use the word "got" somewhat loosely: The channel came in if the weather was right. If it was cloudy, or during rain or snow--forget it. Nothing but snow. We did get another channel at times--Canadian--but it was in French so we couldn't understand it anyway. We were a family of seven, all crowded around that little TV on a Saturday night to watch Bonanza.

How times change. And I'm not sure for the better.

[Dgodin]

We just upgraded our Hulu subscription to include Disney and ESPN+.(a bundle pkg) $19.99 for ad free. $14.99 with ads.

[Guitarman1951]

Since I don't watch the Disney or ESPN channels, I welcome the $15 reduction in the monthly charge. I only watched the ABC channel for Jeopardy and Wheel of Fortune and, sometimes the local news. Since the local news is still available via channel 27, I can certainly live without the rest of the crap. The major networks are declining rapidly in viewership for good reason, they have little to offer. I know they'll probably resolve this but I would just as soon that they didn't.

[plhami24]

We signed up for Hulu TV for $64.95 this morning. I immediately canceled my YouTubeTV. I went through this crap and their fight with Roku. We own two Roku TVs and had to buy Amazon fire sticks for $60 this summer to watch YouTubeTV. Tired of Google’s games with their customers. If you want to live ABC or ESPN sports the only options are Hulu, sling TV, Or return back to Comcast. They’re all in monopoly and we are addicted

[RickyLee]

I'll repeat this for you since you missed it in the post you actually responded to:



Bolded and underlined for emphasis. I CAN do these things. That doesn't mean I do - I don't watch TV at all, except for Survivor because it's entertaining.

We don't get the Weather Channel so we watch the local weather - on the local forcasts. I have access to ABC online for free if I really want to, but I usually just check weather underground, which is so local the closest weather station is four blocks away from my house.

In the future, please do try to read the words you're responding to, before you respond to them. Seems to be a trend around here.
Wow, Merry Christmas to both of you!

[PoolBrews]

Just what Disney was hoping for - Hulu is one of theirs and a direct competitor to YouTube TV.

I understand that. I did my research and, unfortunately, Hulu Live TV is the only competitor to YouTube TV that has the channels I want at nearly the same price. Looking over the past year, Hulu has not sent a message once to customers concerning losing channels, yet YouTube TV has done it 3 times.

I had DirecTV for 25 years, but when I moved to Florida and discovered the wonderful world of daily rain outs of my signal (including any recordings) along with their high price, I dropped them. Dish has the same issue. I'm still paying half of what I was with Xfinity for the channels I want.

[Pat_RI]

Or put an antenna on your tv for ABC.

[Heyitsrick]

We own two Roku TVs and had to buy Amazon fire sticks for $60 this summer to watch YouTubeTV. Tired of Google’s games with their customers.

YouTube TV (aka YTTV) was always available on Roku devices. YouTube added a link on their regular YouTube app to access YTTV when the YTTV app was removed from Roku last spring. There was no need to buy Amazon Fire devices to access YTTV.

[SophieP]

Not ABC. The LOCAL ABC station. National ABC network will still be available. Meanwhile, you are actually getting a break. They're reducing the price of YouTubeTV from $64.99 to $49.99, which is a $15 savings. With that, you can pay $7.99 to sign up for Disney + and get everything you just lost - a net savings of $6.

Since we don't watch Disney channel stuff, only rarely watch anything on ESPN, and can get local news with NBC and CBS, AND because I can watch local ABC online for free, we're saving the full $15. And that's awesome.

I just looked at my lineup on my YouTube TV and ALL ABC is gone, even local....not that I ever watch their news, but I will miss a couple of series I was watching. We never watch Disney either so I'm liking the discount!

[BRN_RI_FL]

YouTube TV (aka YTTV) was always available on Roku devices. YouTube added a link on their regular YouTube app to access YTTV when the YTTV app was removed from Roku last spring. There was no need to buy Amazon Fire devices to access YTTV.

The Youtubetv app is back on roku.

[DAVES]

Indeed. In fact they just settled a long negation with ROKU, and when I bought my smart TV a month ago, I had to go through my YouTubeTV phone app to get it on my TV. Now, however, since the negotiation has been settled, I can get it directly on the TV without the phone app.
I suspect this will get worked out, and YouTube TV will get a bump in cost.

Are they, whoever they are, watching me? It seems every-time I get things figured out AND WORKING, the THEY decide to change it.

[Vikingjunior]

As usually people on the internet spreading misinformation. The argument is Disney wants to charge YTTV a certain fee to distribute content but charge their own company Hulu nothing to distribute content. How they hell would YTTV survive with these terms. Disney is a monopoly and needs to be broken up from Hulu.

It's amazing the majority in TV grew up with no cable and had robust lives. Maybe these big conglomerates are doing us all a favor.

[DAVES]

Remember how happy we all were when Streaming first became popular? Remember when YouTube TV was released at $35 bucks a month? Then It slithered up to $45 which was reasonable. Then the jump to whatever it is today which is about what I paid for a Great Direct TV package.

I remember a wise owl on TOTV'S saying I'm staying with Direct TV at the higher price that they were charging because we were all trying to figure out ROKU & FIRESTICK and were fumbling and bumbling our way thru it. Is it fair to say that eventually, they all end up being approximately the same price with their fake internal negotiations that are always solved at the last second just in a nick of time? Every channel that I'm aware of that was in peril of being lost was saved.....ooooh! A nice set-up if you ask me.

It's just a big fat pile of NOTHING. It all works out to be the same. More outta your pocket.

It is exactly the same marketing as a drug dealer. They get you hooked and few cancel.
The corporate management knows exactly how many people cancel. Beware of the too common 30 day free trial,

[Heyitsrick]

The Youtubetv app is back on roku.

Yes, that's true, but access to YTTV was never lost on Roku due to the link YT added to their regular YouTube app to access YouTube TV.

[Heyitsrick]

Just a heads up for people reading here about recommendations for certain alternative options such as "IPTV" services or "thousands of channels for $20/mo" - more often than not these are services providing so-called "pirate" access to premium channels. I personally don't care what choices people make for this, but just know that if you get caught accessing this way, you could be legally culpable for $$$ damages.

[DAVES]

YouTube lost us with the lack of customer service. We started with YouTube at $50/month. Cancelled when they jumped to $75 and tried Spectrum. Decided we were unhappy and went back to YouTube; however, they were now charging us for two subscriptions. Seems they didn't really cancel the first account. Now, we're getting charged $150 a month. To make it worse, when Google crashed on Dec 14, 2020, we thought it was a mistake with our account and signed in under a different email. But of course, Google didn't inform its' patreons that they had crashed the system.
So now we discover about 3 months later that we're paying $225 for a month of service. We recogized the problem and tried calling Google. They do not have Customer service and simply hang up and tell you to solve this online. Ok...tried that, but your problem has to fit in their check box; ours did not.

So we started working with our credit card (not the original cc that we started with, but a newer one); Fortunately, we were able to reverse most (but not all) of the months of paying for 3 services. My point is that if you have a problem, it must fit into Google's neat little idea of the only things that can go wrong. If not, your only option is to leave permanently.

We continue to get offers from YouTube, but now that they are dropping ESPN...we're happy to have found different service. Not coming back, YouTube.


"Not coming back," everyone says that. It costs virtually nothing to send e-mails. I think even, robo calls are legal to people you have had business with.

"Tried calling Google." Another, modern tactic. Try to find a HUMAN to straighten out any problem. Many simply give up. Should you mange to find a HUMAN, you've already been on the phone for half an hour or so and it is difficult to be civil.

"Only option is to leave permanently," sadly that is not an option, they all stink. Welcome to the new world. We have gained quite a bit. You cannot function without all this.
The price? The price is privacy, good manners and customer service.

[mkoss]

We just upgraded our Hulu subscription to include Disney and ESPN+.(a bundle pkg) $19.99 for ad free. $14.99 with ads.

I'm already a Disney+ customer with the Hulu and ESPN+ package. I thought that would cover me just fine and I wouldn't miss any upcoming bowl games on ESPN. I think I was wrong though as ESPN (not ESPN+) requires you to list your cable subscriber. After further review, I think I need to upgrade to HULU + Live TV to recover the stations lost in the YouTube tv downgrade. I think others here mention HULU + Live TV as well.

[DAVES]

As usually people on the internet spreading misinformation. The argument is Disney wants to charge YTTV a certain fee to distribute content but charge their own company Hulu nothing to distribute content. How they hell would YTTV survive with these terms. Disney is a monopoly and needs to be broken up from Hulu.

It's amazing the majority in TV grew up with no cable and had robust lives. Maybe these big conglomerates are doing us all a favor.

Big has become normal. Disney, is far more than Disneyland. It is shocking how much they own, including much of the news. Amazon-Imagine a retailer competing with Amazon. It is all legal. The one piece price is......., the six piece price is......., the tractor trailer load is........... Free shipping? You do not, the small retailer does not, pay the same as the huge guys do. Yes, I do buy from Amazon and other mail order places.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

You do not lose your channels when it rains on direct tv you just switch down to the non HD right under it called low resolution, even in the hurricane that came through here a few years ago I never lost signal , if your recording and it’s important to you just record both channels or go on demand .The price is going up in January but I don’t care I’m staying with them and even if they gauged me in price or service went down which it hasn’t , I’m staying as long as they have the NFL ticket

[Manders]

May I suggest a powered antenna? Purchased one online. Works perfect. Get all the free network channels (no recording) and tons of other stuff. All free over the air.

[Byte1]

There is nothing that I will care about losing with the loss of Disney. On the other hand, I stick with YoutubeTV primarily for the ability to record unlimited and watch shows at any time I wish. Also, I get past seasons on demand. I too left cable because of their hiding their surprise costs every month. I found up to 13 taxes and fees that they could put on a bill. I save over a hundred bucks per month by cutting the cable. Anything that I wish to watch that I an get on the Internet, I can cast to my TV anyway.
Show me another service that can record unlimited and keep it as long as YoutubeTV and I might be encouraged to change, but only if the price is close to what I am currently paying.
I had the same threats from Comcast programing as I do now. Comcast was constantly warning of certain networks being negotiated and the possible loss of broadcasting from time to time.
I don't mind saving $15 a month for something that I never view anyway.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

May I suggest a powered antenna? Purchased one online. Works perfect. Get all the free network channels (no recording) and tons of other stuff. All free over the air.I never watch anything live. I record everything I want to watch and burn through commercials , I do this even for football I don’t start till about 45 minutes in so I can bypass all the delays , if the game goes badly I’ll switch to another live game , unfortunately then I have to watch the delays , I never start watching till after 7 pm except for football and I mean never , until 7 it’s just music for me whenever I’m in house

[EdFNJ]

Just a heads up for people reading here about recommendations for certain alternative options such as "IPTV" services or "thousands of channels for $20/mo" - more often than not these are services providing so-called "pirate" access to premium channels. I personally don't care what choices people make for this, but just know that if you get caught accessing this way, you could be legally culpable for $$$ damages. Yep. And many of the folks who are pushing those services are likely giving you a hard time for walking on the wrong side of the road or tell you that you should be arrested for driving your golf cart 23mph because it's <wait, here it comes> against the law! :D

[dewilson58]

It's called negotiations.
Neither party wants to lose the revenue.
Happens 50% of the time.
:faint:

Negotiations done.
Agreement signed.
Rates stay flat.
Nicely done.

[Papa_lecki]

Negotiations done.
Agreement signed.
Rates stay flat.
Nicely done.

That was a long day, and 48 posts, without ESPN.

[jedalton]

call, text or email Fast Eddie the villages firestick guy and get over 3,000 channels for $25/mth. ALL local, sports movies, and series.

[Worldseries27]

wow, merry christmas to both of you!
i agree. Y can't we all be friends. We're here now. Isn't the rat race supposed to be over ?
Peace in earth 🌎.
Please

[Worldseries27]

you do not lose your channels when it rains on direct tv you just switch down to the non hd right under it called low resolution, even in the hurricane that came through here a few years ago i never lost signal , if your recording and it’s important to you just record both channels or go on demand .the price is going up in january but i don’t care i’m staying with them and even if they gauged me in price or service went down which it hasn’t , i’m staying as long as they have the nfl ticket
believe that contract expires after this season. I believe the package will be divided amongst the streaming services and cable. Dont see how the monopolization by direct tv benefits anyone.

[Worldseries27]

there is nothing that i will care about losing with the loss of disney. On the other hand, i stick with youtubetv primarily for the ability to record unlimited and watch shows at any time i wish. Also, i get past seasons on demand. I too left cable because of their hiding their surprise costs every month. I found up to 13 taxes and fees that they could put on a bill. I save over a hundred bucks per month by cutting the cable. Anything that i wish to watch that i an get on the internet, i can cast to my tv anyway.
Show me another service that can record unlimited and keep it as long as youtubetv and i might be encouraged to change, but only if the price is close to what i am currently paying.
I had the same threats from comcast programing as i do now. Comcast was constantly warning of certain networks being negotiated and the possible loss of broadcasting from time to time.
I don't mind saving $15 a month for something that i never view anyway.
me too. Also like not being ripped off by dvr rental fees $ 20 per tv rooms. Wired every room with ethernet but don't use it since 5g wireless makes cable wires obsolete
one thing people should know is, if you switch to internet streaming understand that unless you purchased unlimited wifi the tv data usage gets high and you'll get messages from your internet company about it.
Simple solution is to shut off tvs when not in use similar to shutting lights off in unoccupied rooms.

[Worldseries27]

i never watch anything live. I record everything i want to watch and burn through commercials , i do this even for football i don’t start till about 45 minutes in so i can bypass all the delays , if the game goes badly i’ll switch to another live game , unfortunately then i have to watch the delays , i never start watching till after 7 pm except for football and i mean never , until 7 it’s just music for me whenever i’m in house
game pass will allow you to watch select games in 45 minutes no commercials no dialogue

[Babubhat]

If you want it buy a separate app.

[Tom52]

Got an email from YTTV. Agreement reached with Disney. All is well again.

[YvonneandScott]

For any YouTube TV subscribers, what are you planning on doing now that they dropped Disney related content including ESPN?

I think I will give it a week or so for them to come to an agreement. I can't believe YouTube TV will let Disney, ESPN, ABC and others walk. They would lose a ton of subscribers, including me

Sling and Philo are super cheap. Roku TV Live is free and it has a great selection. Peacock is free and several others. I prefer Directtv stream on Roku. So many choices to not have to worry about Googles constant drama over control. Use stream freebies when available or buy pay channels individually. I can choose individual channel apps and not get things I do not watch.
😃

[Notsocrates]

They cut what I like...
I cut them
There are good alternatives

[Rapscallion St Croix]

The sky did not fall after all.

[dewilson58]

They cut what I like...
I cut them
There are good alternatives

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
They cut nothing.
:ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

It's only been 53 years but I'll try:

10 PRINT "Are you a Beatles fan enter Y or N?"
11 INPUT Y$
20 If Y$="Y" GOTO 40 IF Y$="N" GOTO 50
30 Rem
40 CLS
41 Print "You have to Check out GETBACK on Disney+"
42 GOTO "60"
50 CLS
51 Print "Never Mind"
60 END
REM :1rotfl:

WTH man, they replaced goto with gosub in the 1970's. Your code is SO 10 minutes ago.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

We just upgraded our Hulu subscription to include Disney and ESPN+.(a bundle pkg) $19.99 for ad free. $14.99 with ads.

Except you don't get any actual live TV with that. You get ONLY Hulu, Disney, and ESPN. If you want to watch live TV, you need the Hulu +TV which is $71.00 without ads, or I believe $65 with ads.

With YouTubeTV, you get TV, plus YouTube content, and for another $7.99 you get Disney+ with ESPN and ABC local - and that'll cost less than $65. It was only more, when YouTube included Disney. Now that it's no longer on their roster it's cheaper to pay for it as an add-on.

[ronda]

For any YouTube TV subscribers, what are you planning on doing now that they dropped Disney related content including ESPN?

I think I will give it a week or so for them to come to an agreement. I can't believe YouTube TV will let Disney, ESPN, ABC and others walk. They would lose a ton of subscribers, including me

YouTube TV and Disney reach deal. YouTube TV and Disney reach deal (https://apple.news/AjJohmd7fSvmgodVq6NJeRQ)

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Just a heads up for people reading here about recommendations for certain alternative options such as "IPTV" services or "thousands of channels for $20/mo" - more often than not these are services providing so-called "pirate" access to premium channels. I personally don't care what choices people make for this, but just know that if you get caught accessing this way, you could be legally culpable for $$$ damages.

In addition, pirated content means the people who are contracted to get paid based on viewership, won't get paid. If that doesn't bother you, I'm sure you won't mind me doing my laundry at your house, using your water and your detergent. Same thing.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

YouTube TV and Disney reach deal. YouTube TV and Disney reach deal (https://apple.news/AjJohmd7fSvmgodVq6NJeRQ)

That's disappointing. I was looking forward to the discount for channels we don't watch anyway.

[PoolBrews]

I understand that. I did my research and, unfortunately, Hulu Live TV is the only competitor to YouTube TV that has the channels I want at nearly the same price. Looking over the past year, Hulu has not sent a message once to customers concerning losing channels, yet YouTube TV has done it 3 times.

I had DirecTV for 25 years, but when I moved to Florida and discovered the wonderful world of daily rain outs of my signal (including any recordings) along with their high price, I dropped them. Dish has the same issue. I'm still paying half of what I was with Xfinity for the channels I want.

Update: I am moving on from Hulu Live TV. The Hulu Live TV DVR is so bad it is unusable! I don't understand how a company can put a product like this out in this day and age. Hulu charges an extra $10/month to not only record a show, but then watch that show without ads. If you don't pay the $10, you get a show full of ads.

Even if you pay this $10, let's say I want to start recording a game, figuring when I get home I'll start it part way in and skip ads until I catch up. Several issues with Hulu DVR here - 1) If the event is still running, sometimes you can't start the recording at the beginning of the event - it starts at the live point you begin watching it. 2) When it does seem to start at the beginning, you can't skip ads. I was told this is by design. You can't skip ads until the event is done and recording is final. 3) If I pause a show in progress, then come back in 30 minutes, I can fast forward the show, but can not skip ads.

I'm testing FuboTV now... but I see that YouTube TV has reached an agreement. As much as I hate to go back, no one else's product is even close on features and use. FuboTV's DVR works as expected with ads - I can skip ads on a recording, pause a show and skip ads. It's functionality for fast forward and rewind leave a lot to be desired. I can move forward or back 15 seconds at a time, or I can blindly move to a time on the play bar. No video feedback to show me where I am in the show. It's actually painful to use.

[PoolBrews]

Except you don't get any actual live TV with that. You get ONLY Hulu, Disney, and ESPN. If you want to watch live TV, you need the Hulu +TV which is $71.00 without ads, or I believe $65 with ads.

With YouTubeTV, you get TV, plus YouTube content, and for another $7.99 you get Disney+ with ESPN and ABC local - and that'll cost less than $65. It was only more, when YouTube included Disney. Now that it's no longer on their roster it's cheaper to pay for it as an add-on.

To clarify, you get ONLY Hulu, Disney, and ESPN+. You don't get any live TV - no local ABC, and no ESPN channel. You get internet content from ESPN+, not live events.

[UpNorth]

Update: I am moving on from Hulu Live TV. The Hulu Live TV DVR is so bad it is unusable! I don't understand how a company can put a product like this out in this day and age. Hulu charges an extra $10/month to not only record a show, but then watch that show without ads. If you don't pay the $10, you get a show full of ads.

Even if you pay this $10, let's say I want to start recording a game, figuring when I get home I'll start it part way in and skip ads until I catch up. Several issues with Hulu DVR here - 1) If the event is still running, sometimes you can't start the recording at the beginning of the event - it starts at the live point you begin watching it. 2) When it does seem to start at the beginning, you can't skip ads. I was told this is by design. You can't skip ads until the event is done and recording is final. 3) If I pause a show in progress, then come back in 30 minutes, I can fast forward the show, but can not skip ads.

I'm testing FuboTV now... but I see that YouTube TV has reached an agreement. As much as I hate to go back, no one else's product is even close on features and use. FuboTV's DVR works as expected with ads - I can skip ads on a recording, pause a show and skip ads. It's functionality for fast forward and rewind leave a lot to be desired. I can move forward or back 15 seconds at a time, or I can blindly move to a time on the play bar. No video feedback to show me where I am in the show. It's actually painful to use.

Agreed. No other service matches the quality and functionality of YTTV's DVR. Just turned on a free 30-day subscription to FUBO and can see the difference right away. Only reason to get FUBO is if you are a sports freak, and need to watch a lot of soccer . But in a perfect world, the ideal service would let you pick and choose the channels you want to pay for. Right now, channels are being sold by the bundle and you get plenty of stuff you never watch. The first service that is able to break this logjam will quickly take over. But don't expect for it to happen soon.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

believe that contract expires after this season. I believe the package will be divided amongst the streaming services and cable. Dont see how the monopolization by direct tv benefits anyone. and do you think it will get any cheaper or better , last thing a fan or a bar needs is to be paying for 3 or 4 different venues , or watching a really bad showing on Amazon . I hope direct steps up but I think they have one more year

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

game pass will allow you to watch select games in 45 minutes no commercials no dialogue Not for me. The key word in your post is select I want the option I have now which is all

[jedalton]

To clarify, you get ONLY Hulu, Disney, and ESPN+. You don't get any live TV - no local ABC, and no ESPN channel. You get internet content from ESPN+, not live events.
email me please, I can save you a lot of trouble

[EdFNJ]

WTH man, they replaced goto with gosub in the 1970's. Your code is SO 10 minutes ago. LOL, that's why I spent 2/3rds of my post kollidge life setting up networks and installing IBM AIX servers back in the day 'cause I never did like programming. :D

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[Orvil]

I'm glad that they worked it out. I looked at FUBU and was ready to take the leap, but I noticed that Newsmax was included. I'm not going to pay for that.
In a perfect world, I'd be able to drop Fox News. It galls me to pay for that, too. :boom:

[laboutj]

I'm glad that they worked it out. I looked at FUBU and was ready to take the leap, but I noticed that Newsmax was included. I'm not going to pay for that.
In a perfect world, I'd be able to drop Fox News. It galls me to pay for that, too. :boom:

Others feel the same way about CNN and MSNBC. If you're watching those you really should check out Fox News. Each network has a smidge of reality and it's good to get all sides.

If you're in an echo chamber you'll never think independently.

[Pballer]

Others feel the same way about CNN and MSNBC. If you're watching those you really should check out Fox News. Each network has a smidge of reality and it's good to get all sides.

If you're in an echo chamber you'll never think independently.

After Dominion Voting Systems wins billions from Faux News, you will see who has a smidge and who doesn't.

[Seasonal]

YTTV's DVR is the best. Just love their cloud based DVR.

HULU DVR didn't work very well.

[MSchad]

Not ABC. The LOCAL ABC station. National ABC network will still be available. Meanwhile, you are actually getting a break. They're reducing the price of YouTubeTV from $64.99 to $49.99, which is a $15 savings. With that, you can pay $7.99 to sign up for Disney + and get everything you just lost - a net savings of $6.

Since we don't watch Disney channel stuff, only rarely watch anything on ESPN, and can get local news with NBC and CBS, AND because I can watch local ABC online for free, we're saving the full $15. And that's awesome.

Their website still says 64.95 month after 3 month trial.

[EdFNJ]

Their website still says 64.95 month after 3 month trial. IIRC, That price was just for a couple of weeks (days?) while they were fighting with Disney, ABC, ESPN and a few others whose service was not available due to a contract dispute. That was resolved rather quickly as it usually is and price is back to "normal."

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Their website still says 64.95 month after 3 month trial.

The price went down because of Disney's pullout. They got Disney back and the price has gone back up to the usual again. Most of us got a discount for one month.

[Garywt]

We have Comcast, have never paid for any other tv service of any kind. It is just easiest to turn on the tv and start watching.