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CoachKandSportsguy
12-20-2021, 10:47 AM
The 301 route through Delaware and then around DC to avoid the 95 traffic jam is a great route.

We had dinner at the Horns roadside restaurant. Listened to the table beside us, as the convicted felon in Virginia and Texas told his tale of woe to a lady friend.

The saddest part was that he had no intentions of going to his court dates, and after he got out, purchased fake identification and headed to FL. . .

ggg rrrrr eeeee aaaaaaaa tttttt !!!!!!!

laboutj
12-20-2021, 12:18 PM
Where did you pick it up from on 95 and where did you get back onto 95? And about how long was that stretch? I'd like an alternative in case the timing isn't right for when I get to that area. TIA

CoachKandSportsguy
12-20-2021, 02:47 PM
Where did you pick it up from on 95 and where did you get back onto 95? And about how long was that stretch? I'd like an alternative in case the timing isn't right for when I get to that area. TIA

Northbound 95 got off in Virginia at Route 207/301, exit 104.
Then take 50/301 East over the Chesapeake Bay Bridge to Delaware.
Then 301 North to 1/13 North to 95 in Christiana, DE, which is lightly traveled, and can manage 65 MPH very easily, even during the day.

This route avoids Baltimore, Washington DC, and 95 between 495 DC loop and Fredericksburg, VA, which is all under construction, and slow no matter what day we have driven through the area during the day. also highly prone to accidents with the amount of stop and go traffic.

good luck!

laboutj
12-20-2021, 03:32 PM
Good to know and I think we'll try it. When we drive north our usual overnight stop is Ashland VA, just south of Kings Dominion and the route you took. There's a dog friendly hotel with a Dunkin right next door. We don't usually do the drive during weekdays but will be this year. It's about 2.5 hours to Baltimore from Ashland and that would put us through DC and Baltimore right in the middle of the morning commute.

CoachKandSportsguy
12-20-2021, 06:50 PM
Good to know and I think we'll try it. When we drive north our usual overnight stop is Ashland VA, just south of Kings Dominion and the route you took. There's a dog friendly hotel with a Dunkin right next door. We don't usually do the drive during weekdays but will be this year. It's about 2.5 hours to Baltimore from Ashland and that would put us through DC and Baltimore right in the middle of the morning commute.

We can get to DE by 8 PM, with a premade sandwich for lunch stop, when fueling up at noon, and switching off drivers every 3-5 hours. . .

the issue is the bio breaks depending upon amount of coffee drunk, most times in and out bio breaks. .

and remember, 1 idiot can ruin your voyage. . . we saw a couple of them on the other side of the highway heading south. . .

tophcfa
12-20-2021, 06:58 PM
The 301 route through Delaware and then around DC to avoid the 95 traffic jam is a great route.

We had dinner at the Horns roadside restaurant. Listened to the table beside us, as the convicted felon in Virginia and Texas told his tale of woe to a lady friend.

The saddest part was that he had no intentions of going to his court dates, and after he got out, purchased fake identification and headed to FL. . .

ggg rrrrr eeeee aaaaaaaa tttttt !!!!!!!

Just curious, did you notice any construction related traffic jams on 95 going southbound, south of Fredericksburg, VA. We are heading to the Villages soon and still going back and forth on which route we will take. Thanks : )

CoachKandSportsguy
12-20-2021, 08:57 PM
Just curious, did you notice any construction related traffic jams on 95 going southbound, south of Fredericksburg, VA. We are heading to the Villages soon and still going back and forth on which route we will take. Thanks : )

There is some construction south of Richmond down to Emporia, but there was not much of a slow down, just narrow lanes with the shoulders closed. North bound, we came through at closing time, so there was a long wait for the machinery to clear

Best I can remember, as we took 295 around Richmond, as there was a crash in
richmond when we drove through on Friday. .

tophcfa
12-20-2021, 09:29 PM
There is some construction south of Richmond down to Emporia, but there was not much of a slow down, just narrow lanes with the shoulders closed. North bound, we came through at closing time, so there was a long wait for the machinery to clear

Best I can remember, as we took 295 around Richmond, as there was a crash in
richmond when we drove through on Friday. .

Great, thanks for the update : ) We always take the 295 east loop around Richmond. Looks like we will cut over from 81 and hit 95 in Fredericksburg this trip instead of taking 77. Just booked the pet friendly hotel at our trips halfway point. Thanks again and Merry Christmas.

Ashimp
12-21-2021, 07:58 AM
Try to avoid RT 301 North across the Harry Nice Bridge (Potomac River) on Sunday evenings. Used to live there and it always backed up going from 4-lane highway to a 2-lane bridge. Toll is Southbound. Waldorf can be sticky, but those of you who are adventurous can go up the backroads through Amish country, across Patuxent River to Rt 4/ Rt 2 to Annapolis.

Petersweeney
12-21-2021, 08:12 AM
Maybe he was gaslighting you……when he saw you were eavesdropping….. he probably had a good laugh with his chicky …..

nancyre
12-21-2021, 09:09 AM
The timing is never right from Richmond to the NJ line

B-flat
12-21-2021, 09:41 AM
The timing is never right from Richmond to the NJ line

And if you have to take the route further into New England the Ct Turnpike aka i-95. It's a nightmare too. We now get off i-95 to i-26 to i-77 to i81 to i-84, then into Rhode Island. We are done with i-95 in the north.

Notsocrates
12-21-2021, 10:18 AM
And if you have to take the route further into New England the Ct Turnpike aka i-95. It's a nightmare too. We now get off i-95 to i-26 to i-77 to i81 to i-84, then into Rhode Island. We are done with i-95 in the north.

Have you considered going through Harrisburg, I 78, Tappen Zee Bridge? Avoids NYC, Delaware Bridge, Baltimore tunnels and much of DC beltway.
Longer, but cheaper and faster.

Albany
12-21-2021, 11:08 AM
I'm disgusted to tell you the beautiful Tappan Zee Bridge has been renamed the Mario Cuomo Bridge. But us real New Yorkers always refer to it as the Tappan Zee.

Boop20000
12-21-2021, 11:16 AM
Northbound 95 got off in Virginia at Route 207/301, exit 104.
Then take 50/301 East over the Chesapeake Bay Bridge to Delaware.
Then 301 North to 1/13 North to 95 in Christiana, DE, which is lightly traveled, and can manage 65 MPH very easily, even during the day.

This route avoids Baltimore, Washington DC, and 95 between 495 DC loop and Fredericksburg, VA, which is all under construction, and slow no matter what day we have driven through the area during the day. also highly prone to accidents with the amount of stop and go traffic.

good luck!

We take this route also it’s a great alternative when traffic builds up on 95 but sometimes route 50 gets busy

Speedie
12-21-2021, 11:26 AM
Solution to I95 traffic jams-
Sell up north and stay year round in TV.

Merry Christmas to all

triflex
12-21-2021, 11:37 AM
Had a girlfriend murdered in DC area (Greenbelt). I avoid DC at all costs. I have no idea why we get into foreign wars when the people who live in this country are the greatest threat you face. Over 23,000 murders last year in the USA.

We are not living in the country of the Greatest Generation anymore.

B-flat
12-21-2021, 11:42 AM
Have you considered going through Harrisburg, I 78, Tappen Zee Bridge? Avoids NYC, Delaware Bridge, Baltimore tunnels and much of DC beltway.
Longer, but cheaper and faster.

I have taken I 78 thru Harrisburg and have also taken the Garden State to the Tappan Zee. We found that we like getting to I-81 and traveling thru the Shenandoah area.

I'm with Albany most of my late father's family lived in Bergen County, NJ and we always traveled over the Tappan Zee. Like a New Yorker I'll never call it the Mario Cuomo bridge.

So far as staying in Florida all summer to avoid the drive, no thanks I'd rather spend a few hours traveling to the north than staying in the furnace of Central Florida for months. We love both New England and Florida but there's a season for living in each.

CoachKandSportsguy
12-21-2021, 04:42 PM
Its all about the timing of when you leave and the idiots ahead of you. . . any of the choices can get messed up with a bad accident. . . yes, there are nice drives closer to the Appalachians, but as you get into the colder months, the more weather can impact the drive as well.

This drive has a bit of luck involved to not have any major disruptions. . . from where-ever you start, when-ever you leave and which-ever route you take

mike234
12-21-2021, 05:06 PM
has anyone gone north on 95, then take exit 4 in virginia and swing over to Virginia Beach, and gone over the Chesapeake bay bridge/tunnell? my question is, do you stay on rt 13, or is there a better way to get to the del/mem bridge? rt 13 is traffic city

CoachKandSportsguy
12-21-2021, 07:18 PM
has anyone gone north on 95, then take exit 4 in virginia and swing over to Virginia Beach, and gone over the Chesapeake bay bridge/tunnell? my question is, do you stay on rt 13, or is there a better way to get to the del/mem bridge? rt 13 is traffic city


yes, more than once, but the route in summer time is congested, with many lights between 95 and CBBT, so not a quick choice, but a scenic choice. Delaware is a low traffic state, but there are quite a few lights on 13

not one of my preferences. . .

mike234
12-22-2021, 06:31 AM
I am aware of the traffic on rt 13. what about picking up rt 113, or picking up rt 01 somewhere. has anyone done that?

Bay Kid
12-22-2021, 08:03 AM
has anyone gone north on 95, then take exit 4 in virginia and swing over to Virginia Beach, and gone over the Chesapeake bay bridge/tunnell? my question is, do you stay on rt 13, or is there a better way to get to the del/mem bridge? rt 13 is traffic city

That is the scenic tour and you get to see the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

BlueStarAirlines
12-29-2021, 04:54 PM
North to 95 in Christiana, DE,

Just wanted to point out there is a Costco right off the road in Christiana that is a great place to stock up with no sales tax!

BlueStarAirlines
12-29-2021, 04:59 PM
We are not living in the country of the Greatest Generation anymore.

You'll probably be surprised that the older generations are the biggest danger!

Millennials’ Crime Rates Lower Than Boomer Generation: Study | The Crime Report (https://thecrimereport.org/2021/05/11/millennials-crime-rates-lower-than-boomer-generation-study/)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/09/07/young-people-are-committing-much-less-crime-older-people-are-still-behaving-as-badly-as-before/

bandsdavis
12-29-2021, 08:15 PM
We just did that in the last few days coming south and it worked well. For 9 years I worked in the Richmond area and often had to drive north past DC to see customers or our other facilities. I took this route all the time. Works well both ways.

triflex
12-30-2021, 03:17 AM
The Greatest Generation were not Boomers. And in modern times they have stopped enforcing the law.

Also, the Washington Post is not a legitimate journalistic enterprise .

You'll probably be surprised that the older generations are the biggest danger!

Millennials’ Crime Rates Lower Than Boomer Generation: Study | The Crime Report (https://thecrimereport.org/2021/05/11/millennials-crime-rates-lower-than-boomer-generation-study/)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/09/07/young-people-are-committing-much-less-crime-older-people-are-still-behaving-as-badly-as-before/