I'm Continuously Amazed...

[JMintzer]

Amazed at the number of people who seem to be miserable living in TV yet choose to remain...

If I was that unhappy living somewhere, I'd leave skidmarks... (no, not THAT kind... :1rotfl: )

[Velvet]

I agree, and I feel the same way about people who constantly complain about this beautiful country too. You don’t like, find where you want to live somewhere else in the world. That’s what my parents did. They came here.

[Number 10 GI]

My mother was like that. She was never happy with anything or anyone including herself. She was quite difficult to live with so I left home and joined the Army as soon as I could just to get away from her and her negativity.
You can give some people a $100 bill and they will complain that is green and wrinkled, why wasn't it $200, why didn't you give it to me last week, when can I expect the next $100, what are you wanting from me, and I'll bet you want me to appreciate it.

[Garywt]

Some people are not happy unless they are miserable about everything, they try to suck the life out of everything. If we were miserable we would sell and stay up north. We happen to love being in The Villages and wish we could be there more. Just sitting in the house doing nothing is better than being in the cold weather but we are usually out and about on the golf cart.

[asianthree]

You are assuming they would be happy elsewhere. Those who dislike their environment changing addresses may not make a difference. One of in-laws hated their up north home, too cold.. then hated their Florida home, too hot. Moved to Midwest, too hot and too cold. Some can’t ever be happy no matter what is outside their window

[Bjeanj]

I’ve met people who had miserable lives. They tend to take it out on anyone who might listen and are so negative. They can’t see good in anything.

I can’t be around people like that. I can’t fix them and they emotionally drag others down with them.

[Bonanza]

Nothing in this life is 100%, be it good or bad. There are many accolades that fit the lifestyle of living in TV, but is it perfect? Of course not and far from it. While much of the negativity is true we can still benefit from it by trying to make whatever it is better.

The simple change in someone's lifestyle from moving from a completely different environment can be traumatic for some. But telling them to move somewhere else is disgraceful and about as negative as one can get!

[EdFNJ]

The simple change in someone's lifestyle from moving from a completely different environment can be traumatic for some. But telling them to move somewhere else is disgraceful and about as negative as one can get! Aside from this topic being mostly trolling and clickbait I have found that to be a general mantra around here. Comment that one doesn't like this or that the response is "if you don't like it, move." Evidently the only way to live here is you have to drink the Kool-Aid and accept everything as it is UNLESS the other person agrees with your complaint THEN it's OK to not sell. :)

Any YES, moving from the northeast has been traumatic. 5 years next week and I still can't fully adjust to some of the stuff around here both regarding the location and the population. A lot of the good overrides some of the bad but some of the bad is just bad. There were things where I lived previously for 60+ years I didn't like either. One learns to overlook the bad most of the time.

[Velvet]

Nothing in this life is 100%, be it good or bad. There are many accolades that fit the lifestyle of living in TV, but is it perfect? Of course not and far from it. While much of the negativity is true we can still benefit from it by trying to make whatever it is better.

The simple change in someone's lifestyle from moving from a completely different environment can be traumatic for some. But telling them to move somewhere else is disgraceful and about as negative as one can get!

Telling someone to move if they are unhappy is for their own benefit. They need to give themselves that option too. Why would they want to stay where they are miserable? One life, it might as well be the happiest one they can have. (Unless, of course they chose to be miserable, always find something to make themselves unhappy.)

The trauma of change can be likened to growing pains, part of getting to something better.

[coffeebean]

Aside from this topic being mostly trolling and clickbait I have found that to be a general mantra around here. Comment that one doesn't like this or that the response is "if you don't like it, move." Evidently the only way to live here is you have to drink the Kool-Aid and accept everything as it is UNLESS the other person agrees with your complaint THEN it's OK to not sell. :)

Any YES, moving from the northeast has been traumatic. 5 years next week and I still can't fully adjust to some of the stuff around here both regarding the location and the population. A lot of the good overrides some of the bad but some of the bad is just bad. There were things where I lived previously for 60+ years I didn't like either. One learns to overlook the bad most of the time.

I'm from the north east (NY born and raised and left as a young adult for south Florida), NJ for 16 years in between living in Florida). There is nothing I miss from the NE other than family. Well......one more thing I miss is the tremendously wonderful feeling of the first warm spring day as we defrosted from the frigid winter. Sometimes we actually had a 50 degree day or two in February and that was glorious too.

Back to The Villages........I can not think of one thing I do not like about living here. This is paradise for me and hubby. He complains a lot about the hot summers but the hot temperatures and high humidity don't bother me at all, especially when I spend most of my time in air conditioned spaces.

[thevillages2013]

Amazed at the number of people who seem to be miserable living in TV yet choose to remain...

If I was that unhappy living somewhere, I'd leave skidmarks... (no, not THAT kind... :1rotfl: )

Yeah but it’s hot in the Summer, crowded in the Winter, I can’t get a tee time for my group of 32, service at the country club restaurants is poor , a dog peed on my daisies, grandpa clipped me in a roundabout and the local car dealership is run by a bunch of crooks. Move (hmmmm) , never thought of that:bigbow:

[jdulej]

Amazed at the number of people who seem to be miserable living in TV yet choose to remain...

If I was that unhappy living somewhere, I'd leave skidmarks... (no, not THAT kind... :1rotfl: )

I think that those with nothing better to do than read/comment on for forum (like me right now) are bored complainer types.

[dewilson58]

A Lot of the negative-nillies don't live in TV.

They do not admit this because they will really be hammered by residents.

Keep in mind, there are only about 100 total posters on this site..................out of 150,000, not a representation.

:ho:

[Kenswing]

I'm amazed by the number of people that are amazed at the number of people who seem to be miserable living in TV yet choose to remain...

[billethkid]

A Lot of the negative-nillies don't live in TV.

They do not admit this because they will really be hammered by residents.

Keep in mind, there are only about 100 total posters on this site..................out of 150,000, not a representation.

:ho:

My favorite campaign....far too often the isolated incidences are presented as general conditions.

....but the statement above attests to the stark reality.

[dtennent]

Didn't Lincoln say "folks are usually about as happy as they make up their minds to be."?

[justjim]

Didn't Lincoln say "folks are usually about as happy as they make up their minds to be."?

He did…:mademyday:

[DAVES]

Amazed at the number of people who seem to be miserable living in TV yet choose to remain...

If I was that unhappy living somewhere, I'd leave skidmarks... (no, not THAT kind... :1rotfl: )

People are people. We know that or should know that. Is the glass half full or half empty?
It applies to everything. Simple example, some look at a lawn and see only the weeds.

[BigSteph]

I agree in general to "Just Move if you Don't Like It," but this statement is not always possible.

Not everyone can afford or endure another move -- especially as they age.

The next mantra is "You should have known better, researched, rented first!"

Many people don't have the means to come down for several "Lifestyle Visits" or have a season of leisure to rent before buying. Most people I have met all agree that you have to settle your ties and debts before moving here. There are some that maintain lives here and afar, but many homestead.

I suspect if people had unlimited resources and were not happy here, they would find another place to suit them.

Some people, I agree, are in the business of misery -- if not for misery, they would be terribly miserable.

There are a lot of frogs here that don't have the means or energy to find another pond.









Telling someone to move if they are unhappy is for their own benefit. They need to give themselves that option too. Why would they want to stay where they are miserable? One life, it might as well be the happiest one they can have. (Unless, of course they chose to be miserable, always find something to make themselves unhappy.)

The trauma of change can be likened to growing pains, part of getting to something better.

[ThirdOfFive]

Amazed at the number of people who seem to be miserable living in TV yet choose to remain...

If I was that unhappy living somewhere, I'd leave skidmarks... (no, not THAT kind... :1rotfl: )
Well, as Mom used to say, "you'd complain if you were hung with a new rope".

(Never did quite figure out what she meant by that...)

[Vikingjunior]

I got a complaint about idiots who give half ass/ misleading titles to their posts so people will click it. This should be a 14 day ban for giving low effort titles to their lame ass posts.

[Madelaine Amee]

I agree in general to "Just Move if you Don't Like It," but this statement is not always possible.

Not everyone can afford or endure another move -- especially as they age.

The next mantra is "You should have known better, researched, rented first!"

Many people don't have the means to come down for several "Lifestyle Visits" or have a season of leisure to rent before buying. Most people I have met all agree that you have to settle your ties and debts before moving here. There are some that maintain lives here and afar, but many homestead.

I suspect if people had unlimited resources and were not happy here, they would find another place to suit them.

Some people, I agree, are in the business of misery -- if not for misery, they would be terribly miserable.

There are a lot of frogs here that don't have the means or energy to find another pond.

I agree with you. I think far too many people get to the point where the northern winters are just too much to handle and they hear about TV and come down and fall hopelessly in love with what they see. They buy on a whim and find out later t that TV is not for them, and then it is too late. The cost of homes in the Northeast is astronomical compared to Florida and they find they are stuck.

[DAVES]

Nothing in this life is 100%, be it good or bad. There are many accolades that fit the lifestyle of living in TV, but is it perfect? Of course not and far from it. While much of the negativity is true we can still benefit from it by trying to make whatever it is better.

The simple change in someone's lifestyle from moving from a completely different environment can be traumatic for some. But telling them to move somewhere else is disgraceful and about as negative as one can get!

I proudly have a strange view of most things. Friendship. For me my definition of a friend is someone who can tell you, you are wrong and you realize perhaps they are right. It is done in private.

"Benefit from trying to make things better." Read through the posts. Few have a solution. Most are I am right and you are wrong. Reality, things will never be perfect.

Many people do not even see the negative consequences of what they think is a solution.

"Telling people to move somewhere else." Back to reality. For all, if, you would be happier somewhere else, you owe it to yourself to move there.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Amazed at the number of people who seem to be miserable living in TV yet choose to remain...

If I was that unhappy living somewhere, I'd leave skidmarks... (no, not THAT kind... :1rotfl: )

Perfect example of an individual's happiness driver (living location) being projected onto everyone else's happiness driver, and therefore the solution of moving to a new location as an unhappiness solution.

Human behavior is generally much more complex and subconscious than what is visible.

Most likely, if the person's unhappiness is rooted in their environment, and they can change it, they will. If not, the unhappiness is not rooted in their environment, but the negative complaints about the environment is symptomatic of some other unhappiness which they are no longer willing to fix.

So moving will not fix their unhappiness, as its not rooted in their environment, but is just a symptom. . . most likely in retirement, its a symptom of the end of the fun, and being now trapped in a place they never imagined they would. . a loss of some view of life . . .

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Amazed at the number of people who seem to be miserable living in TV yet choose to remain...

If I was that unhappy living somewhere, I'd leave skidmarks... (no, not THAT kind... :1rotfl: )

I guess it depends on what you mean by "miserable living in TV."

By that do you mean:

people who look at what was considered weeds where they came from, and miss the grass?

people who are confounded that they have to wash the outside of their house every few months to get the mold off the siding?

people who would love nothing more than to sit in the back yard watching the sunset but are viciously attacked by fire ants?

people whose only previous experience with cockroaches were the little ones in their studio apartment that they shared with 2 other people in a city walk-up during their senior year of college, and now are seeing the "big guys" raiding the fridge and making themselves at home on the couch?

people whose previous community involved a majority of drivers who used their turn signals consistently and correctly?

people whose previous community did NOT involve a bunch of political nuts plastering "This guy sucks" on their bumper stickers and golf cart windshields and raising "this guy sucks" flags on their flagpoles?

people who didn't need deed restrictions to know that it was important to maintain their yard, and that an entire block of white crosses was actually offensive to some of the neighbors so maybe put those things in the back yard instead?

people who are more concerned about their freedoms and rights than peaceful cohabitation with their neighbors?

My -neighborhood- where I live right now, is mostly peaceful, we get along, we help each other.

But there's one guy who has a big ugly metal trailer on his driveway - been there for a couple of months, with no sign of them preparing to move it. It's a storage trailer. OUR deed restrictions don't prohibit this. And yet - he's the only one in the entire section of the Villages where it's "allowed" that has one. Why is that? To me, it's because - he doesn't give a flying fart about the rest of the neighborhood. He's allowed, so dammit he'll do what he wants and to heck with everyone else.

We have another who has parties at their house every week, which would be okay except their pals block the driveways of the houses next to them, they're loud and obnoxious, none of them are over 50 (let alone 55), and they're slovenly. They don't -care- that their neighborhood, while modest in quality, makes some attempt at keeping the properties maintained and looking decent, and that they are the ONLY neighbors in the entire neighborhood that are like this.

They live in their own worlds, and don't care that the entire rest of the neighborhood has to deal with them. They don't care that their next door neighbor has to endure seeing the guy sitting in his lounge chair with no shirt, in his boxers with an open front fly, displaying his altogethers to whoever walks past or happens to be out in their OWN lanai next door, just trying to enjoy the weather with a cup of coffee.

I shouldn't have to move. I was here before those people. And if I moved every time I met a neighbor I didn't like in life, I'd be living in a tent somewhere by myself.

You can't pick your neighbors. Sometimes you're just stuck with them, like it or not. You can't choose who will drive in front of you on the road. Sometimes you're just stuck with morons who don't know their left from their right. You can't choose who will drive anywhere near you - there will be pieces of crap who will insist on paying attention to their cell phone instead of the road while they cut in front of you and come to a complete stop in the middle of the road, because they need to yell at their spouse who forgot to replace their hearing aid battery and can't hear what she's saying.

Does this make me miserable all the time? Of course not. I'm mostly a happy person. Does it make me feel miserable during the individual incidents? You bet. It harshes my mellow. Do I get over it? Yup, sure do. Usually a few minutes later.

Does it mean I should leave? Nope.

Does it mean you have to be able to relate to it? Nope.

I am, however, amazed by people who are incapable of comprehending why some folks have - human responses - to human experiences.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

this brings up the question, with modern medicine, is a quick and sudden death now better than a very slow and drawn out decline?

ooof. . . .

[MrFlorida]

I had a co worker like that, we called her Mrs. Miserable. Everything was negative. We avoided her like the plague, or now days like Covid....Life is what you make it...

[davem4616]

The older I get the more the lyrics to Johnny Mercer's song Ac-cent-tchu-ate The Positive make sense to me

"You've got to accentuate the positive
Eliminate the negative
Latch on to the affirmative
Don't mess with Mister In-Between..."

[DAVES]

I agree with you. I think far too many people get to the point where the northern winters are just too much to handle and they hear about TV and come down and fall hopelessly in love with what they see. They buy on a whim and find out later t that TV is not for them, and then it is too late. The cost of homes in the Northeast is astronomical compared to Florida and they find they are stuck.

Not at all so. Cost of homes actually has gone up throughout the nation. Perhaps, more so in Florida. My point. Assuming you lived up north and wish to return. You can sell your home in the Villages for more than you paid for it and buy a northern home, similar to what you had. You will not only sell your villages home for more than you paid for it but the northern home will cost you more than your sold yours for.

People are only stuck if they stick themselves. Happiness is a choice. People are happy and miserable by their own choice.

Snow is pretty except when you need to get to work. I still remember my OLD snow blower that ran great all summer but refused to run in the snow. Perhaps, it had more sense than I did. I remember our neighbor from across the street coming over with hot cocoa. I got rid of my snow shovels. When, I got here I bought a manure shovel.
This time was I to DECIDE to move I would take it. It would work fine in the snow.
Northern Ice scrapers. Tough to find in Florida. They are perfect for scraping love bugs off your windshield.

HAPPINESS IS A CHOICE.

[cypress]

Left out is the case where one spouse loves it and the other hates it. Which one gets to enjoy life?

[fdpaq0580]

People are people. We know that or should know that. Is the glass half full or half empty?
It applies to everything. Simple example, some look at a lawn and see only the weeds.

Glass half full or half empty? Doesn't matter. Glass is at 50% capacity.

[DAVES]

I guess it depends on what you mean by "miserable living in TV."

By that do you mean:

people who look at what was considered weeds where they came from, and miss the grass?

people who are confounded that they have to wash the outside of their house every few months to get the mold off the siding?

people who would love nothing more than to sit in the back yard watching the sunset but are viciously attacked by fire ants?

people whose only previous experience with cockroaches were the little ones in their studio apartment that they shared with 2 other people in a city walk-up during their senior year of college, and now are seeing the "big guys" raiding the fridge and making themselves at home on the couch?

people whose previous community involved a majority of drivers who used their turn signals consistently and correctly?

people whose previous community did NOT involve a bunch of political nuts plastering "This guy sucks" on their bumper stickers and golf cart windshields and raising "this guy sucks" flags on their flagpoles?

people who didn't need deed restrictions to know that it was important to maintain their yard, and that an entire block of white crosses was actually offensive to some of the neighbors so maybe put those things in the back yard instead?

people who are more concerned about their freedoms and rights than peaceful cohabitation with their neighbors?

My -neighborhood- where I live right now, is mostly peaceful, we get along, we help each other.

But there's one guy who has a big ugly metal trailer on his driveway - been there for a couple of months, with no sign of them preparing to move it. It's a storage trailer. OUR deed restrictions don't prohibit this. And yet - he's the only one in the entire section of the Villages where it's "allowed" that has one. Why is that? To me, it's because - he doesn't give a flying fart about the rest of the neighborhood. He's allowed, so dammit he'll do what he wants and to heck with everyone else.

We have another who has parties at their house every week, which would be okay except their pals block the driveways of the houses next to them, they're loud and obnoxious, none of them are over 50 (let alone 55), and they're slovenly. They don't -care- that their neighborhood, while modest in quality, makes some attempt at keeping the properties maintained and looking decent, and that they are the ONLY neighbors in the entire neighborhood that are like this.

They live in their own worlds, and don't care that the entire rest of the neighborhood has to deal with them. They don't care that their next door neighbor has to endure seeing the guy sitting in his lounge chair with no shirt, in his boxers with an open front fly, displaying his altogethers to whoever walks past or happens to be out in their OWN lanai next door, just trying to enjoy the weather with a cup of coffee.

I shouldn't have to move. I was here before those people. And if I moved every time I met a neighbor I didn't like in life, I'd be living in a tent somewhere by myself.

You can't pick your neighbors. Sometimes you're just stuck with them, like it or not. You can't choose who will drive in front of you on the road. Sometimes you're just stuck with morons who don't know their left from their right. You can't choose who will drive anywhere near you - there will be pieces of crap who will insist on paying attention to their cell phone instead of the road while they cut in front of you and come to a complete stop in the middle of the road, because they need to yell at their spouse who forgot to replace their hearing aid battery and can't hear what she's saying.

Does this make me miserable all the time? Of course not. I'm mostly a happy person. Does it make me feel miserable during the individual incidents? You bet. It harshes my mellow. Do I get over it? Yup, sure do. Usually a few minutes later.

Does it mean I should leave? Nope.

Does it mean you have to be able to relate to it? Nope.

I am, however, amazed by people who are incapable of comprehending why some folks have - human responses - to human experiences.

Truth, before moving to the villages I became aware of an island for sale in North Carolina. It had a nice home, several acres and a wild herd of horses. It could be bought for one million. Not sure if I was teasing or not but I suggested to my wife we could set up a Kingdom and she could be Queen. That idea died in a Revolution.

That is one SOLUTION. Happiness is a choice. Perfection, is a dream that does not, cannot, will not exist..

[JMintzer]

Aside from this topic being mostly trolling and clickbait I have found that to be a general mantra around here. Comment that one doesn't like this or that the response is "if you don't like it, move." Evidently the only way to live here is you have to drink the Kool-Aid and accept everything as it is UNLESS the other person agrees with your complaint THEN it's OK to not sell. :)

Any YES, moving from the northeast has been traumatic. 5 years next week and I still can't fully adjust to some of the stuff around here both regarding the location and the population. A lot of the good overrides some of the bad but some of the bad is just bad. There were things where I lived previously for 60+ years I didn't like either. One learns to overlook the bad most of the time.

Aside from your personal insult regarding the intent of my post, I never told a soul to move. I stated what -I- would do...

I never said a word about legitimate complaints. So spare me your projections...

[JMintzer]

I'm amazed by the number of people that are amazed at the number of people who seem to be miserable living in TV yet choose to remain...

Paul McCartney - Maybe I’m Amazed (Official Video) - YouTube (https://youtu.be/cdDPR8GzXy8)

[JMintzer]

Well, as Mom used to say, "you'd complain if you were hung with a new rope".

(Never did quite figure out what she meant by that...)

New ropes are very "scratchy" on the skin...

Much more comfortable to be hung with a well used, smooth rope...

Wait, what? :icon_wink:

[JMintzer]

I got a complaint about idiots who give half ass/ misleading titles to their posts so people will click it. This should be a 14 day ban for giving low effort titles to their lame ass posts.

Or, a ban to those who insult other posters (which is actually against the rules)...

[fdpaq0580]

Amazed :1rotfl: )

You really shouldn't be.

[JMintzer]

I guess it depends on what you mean by "miserable living in TV."

By that do you mean:

people who look at what was considered weeds where they came from, and miss the grass?

people who are confounded that they have to wash the outside of their house every few months to get the mold off the siding?

people who would love nothing more than to sit in the back yard watching the sunset but are viciously attacked by fire ants?

people whose only previous experience with cockroaches were the little ones in their studio apartment that they shared with 2 other people in a city walk-up during their senior year of college, and now are seeing the "big guys" raiding the fridge and making themselves at home on the couch?

people whose previous community involved a majority of drivers who used their turn signals consistently and correctly?

people whose previous community did NOT involve a bunch of political nuts plastering "This guy sucks" on their bumper stickers and golf cart windshields and raising "this guy sucks" flags on their flagpoles?

people who didn't need deed restrictions to know that it was important to maintain their yard, and that an entire block of white crosses was actually offensive to some of the neighbors so maybe put those things in the back yard instead?

people who are more concerned about their freedoms and rights than peaceful cohabitation with their neighbors?

My -neighborhood- where I live right now, is mostly peaceful, we get along, we help each other.

But there's one guy who has a big ugly metal trailer on his driveway - been there for a couple of months, with no sign of them preparing to move it. It's a storage trailer. OUR deed restrictions don't prohibit this. And yet - he's the only one in the entire section of the Villages where it's "allowed" that has one. Why is that? To me, it's because - he doesn't give a flying fart about the rest of the neighborhood. He's allowed, so dammit he'll do what he wants and to heck with everyone else.

We have another who has parties at their house every week, which would be okay except their pals block the driveways of the houses next to them, they're loud and obnoxious, none of them are over 50 (let alone 55), and they're slovenly. They don't -care- that their neighborhood, while modest in quality, makes some attempt at keeping the properties maintained and looking decent, and that they are the ONLY neighbors in the entire neighborhood that are like this.

They live in their own worlds, and don't care that the entire rest of the neighborhood has to deal with them. They don't care that their next door neighbor has to endure seeing the guy sitting in his lounge chair with no shirt, in his boxers with an open front fly, displaying his altogethers to whoever walks past or happens to be out in their OWN lanai next door, just trying to enjoy the weather with a cup of coffee.

I shouldn't have to move. I was here before those people. And if I moved every time I met a neighbor I didn't like in life, I'd be living in a tent somewhere by myself.

You can't pick your neighbors. Sometimes you're just stuck with them, like it or not. You can't choose who will drive in front of you on the road. Sometimes you're just stuck with morons who don't know their left from their right. You can't choose who will drive anywhere near you - there will be pieces of crap who will insist on paying attention to their cell phone instead of the road while they cut in front of you and come to a complete stop in the middle of the road, because they need to yell at their spouse who forgot to replace their hearing aid battery and can't hear what she's saying.

Does this make me miserable all the time? Of course not. I'm mostly a happy person. Does it make me feel miserable during the individual incidents? You bet. It harshes my mellow. Do I get over it? Yup, sure do. Usually a few minutes later.

Does it mean I should leave? Nope.

Does it mean you have to be able to relate to it? Nope.

I am, however, amazed by people who are incapable of comprehending why some folks have - human responses - to human experiences.

You've just described problems that happen in EVERY SINGLE NEIGHBORHOOD, across the country.

Maybe not all of them, but many of them...

And if you actually read my initial post, I never suggested that anyone (except ME) do anything...

[DAVES]

I agree in general to "Just Move if you Don't Like It," but this statement is not always possible.

Not everyone can afford or endure another move -- especially as they age.

The next mantra is "You should have known better, researched, rented first!"

Many people don't have the means to come down for several "Lifestyle Visits" or have a season of leisure to rent before buying. Most people I have met all agree that you have to settle your ties and debts before moving here. There are some that maintain lives here and afar, but many homestead.

I suspect if people had unlimited resources and were not happy here, they would find another place to suit them.

Some people, I agree, are in the business of misery -- if not for misery, they would be terribly miserable.

There are a lot of frogs here that don't have the means or energy to find another pond.


This post conflicts itself. Perhaps, a state of humanity for all of us. Robert Frost, the path not taken. I had a minor in psychology. Normal humans go through two stressful life periods. Around 15-18 what am i going to do with my life. Then, 50-???? what have I done with my life. That seems to be where most of these posts are.

Many ironies of life. Ponce de Leon came to Florida to discover the fountain of youth.
Florida is loaded with senior living-HUH?

The means or the energy? All the OLD lines apply. The world is your oyster. Where there is a will there is a way. The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.
Whatever you have there will be some with more and some with less.

I do not have the answers and if I did they would be my answers not the answers for others. I do perhaps see in many of these posts that some do not realize what the real problem is-it is them.

[JoMar]

Left out is the case where one spouse loves it and the other hates it. Which one gets to enjoy life?

Have met a couple of those here.....usually the wife loves it and the guy hates it. There is a solution to that but guys don't usually function well alone which is why they remarry and the women stay single. Good news is the haters are in the minority here.

[JMintzer]

Left out is the case where one spouse loves it and the other hates it. Which one gets to enjoy life?

The wife, of course... (ducks for cover...)

[JMintzer]

Glass half full or half empty? Doesn't matter. Glass is at 50% capacity.

Damn engineers... :icon_wink:

[DAVES]

I got a complaint about idiots who give half ass/ misleading titles to their posts so people will click it. This should be a 14 day ban for giving low effort titles to their lame ass posts.

REALITY-we all have a CHOICE to read it or NOT. Also, a CHOICE to reply or NOT.
A 14 day ban? My OPINION when people resort to name calling it lowers my OPINION of them.

[Byte1]

Aside from this topic being mostly trolling and clickbait I have found that to be a general mantra around here. Comment that one doesn't like this or that the response is "if you don't like it, move." Evidently the only way to live here is you have to drink the Kool-Aid and accept everything as it is UNLESS the other person agrees with your complaint THEN it's OK to not sell. :)

Any YES, moving from the northeast has been traumatic. 5 years next week and I still can't fully adjust to some of the stuff around here both regarding the location and the population. A lot of the good overrides some of the bad but some of the bad is just bad. There were things where I lived previously for 60+ years I didn't like either. One learns to overlook the bad most of the time.

Perfect example of the OP.............:clap2:
Some folks do not understand when they are miserable because they enjoy being miserable. I guess that even a few nice photos shared is also "click bait" to some.

[Bilyclub]

Summer is the best in TV and not something on my negative list.

[Byte1]

I guess it depends on what you mean by "miserable living in TV."

By that do you mean:

people who look at what was considered weeds where they came from, and miss the grass?

people who are confounded that they have to wash the outside of their house every few months to get the mold off the siding?

people who would love nothing more than to sit in the back yard watching the sunset but are viciously attacked by fire ants?

people whose only previous experience with cockroaches were the little ones in their studio apartment that they shared with 2 other people in a city walk-up during their senior year of college, and now are seeing the "big guys" raiding the fridge and making themselves at home on the couch?

people whose previous community involved a majority of drivers who used their turn signals consistently and correctly?

people whose previous community did NOT involve a bunch of political nuts plastering "This guy sucks" on their bumper stickers and golf cart windshields and raising "this guy sucks" flags on their flagpoles?

people who didn't need deed restrictions to know that it was important to maintain their yard, and that an entire block of white crosses was actually offensive to some of the neighbors so maybe put those things in the back yard instead?

people who are more concerned about their freedoms and rights than peaceful cohabitation with their neighbors?

My -neighborhood- where I live right now, is mostly peaceful, we get along, we help each other.

But there's one guy who has a big ugly metal trailer on his driveway - been there for a couple of months, with no sign of them preparing to move it. It's a storage trailer. OUR deed restrictions don't prohibit this. And yet - he's the only one in the entire section of the Villages where it's "allowed" that has one. Why is that? To me, it's because - he doesn't give a flying fart about the rest of the neighborhood. He's allowed, so dammit he'll do what he wants and to heck with everyone else.

We have another who has parties at their house every week, which would be okay except their pals block the driveways of the houses next to them, they're loud and obnoxious, none of them are over 50 (let alone 55), and they're slovenly. They don't -care- that their neighborhood, while modest in quality, makes some attempt at keeping the properties maintained and looking decent, and that they are the ONLY neighbors in the entire neighborhood that are like this.

They live in their own worlds, and don't care that the entire rest of the neighborhood has to deal with them. They don't care that their next door neighbor has to endure seeing the guy sitting in his lounge chair with no shirt, in his boxers with an open front fly, displaying his altogethers to whoever walks past or happens to be out in their OWN lanai next door, just trying to enjoy the weather with a cup of coffee.

I shouldn't have to move. I was here before those people. And if I moved every time I met a neighbor I didn't like in life, I'd be living in a tent somewhere by myself.

You can't pick your neighbors. Sometimes you're just stuck with them, like it or not. You can't choose who will drive in front of you on the road. Sometimes you're just stuck with morons who don't know their left from their right. You can't choose who will drive anywhere near you - there will be pieces of crap who will insist on paying attention to their cell phone instead of the road while they cut in front of you and come to a complete stop in the middle of the road, because they need to yell at their spouse who forgot to replace their hearing aid battery and can't hear what she's saying.

Does this make me miserable all the time? Of course not. I'm mostly a happy person. Does it make me feel miserable during the individual incidents? You bet. It harshes my mellow. Do I get over it? Yup, sure do. Usually a few minutes later.

Does it mean I should leave? Nope.

Does it mean you have to be able to relate to it? Nope.

I am, however, amazed by people who are incapable of comprehending why some folks have - human responses - to human experiences.

Wow, what a diatribe of an abundance of words that probably could/can be condensed into one or two sentences. I apologize for not reading it in it's entirety, because even though it was structured like a poem, it was NOT poetry.

[NotGolfer]

Back when I first came on ToTV there were "someone" who disparaged the community, the developer etc. I asked the question to one individual with "then why do you live here?" The answer that came back was "because I like the life-style!" Really?? My take is, you can't take it both ways. Some people will complain and gripe because they lack something within themselves. They can't find satisfaction with anything. Social media is an outlet for them (anonymously) to dump. What I would say to them....start a gratitude journal. List everything you're actually grateful for.....then see if the attitude changes.

[DAVES]

Have met a couple of those here.....usually the wife loves it and the guy hates it. There is a solution to that but guys don't usually function well alone which is why they remarry and the women stay single. Good news is the haters are in the minority here.

More wisdom from my dad. If, you think you understand your wife you are wrong. Even if you do it will change shortly.

"The wife loves it and the guy hates it." i could write a book on that. First of all we allow the use of the word HATE, far too often. Not too long ago everything was awesome. The word was so over used that it lost all meaning. I do my best to keep my HATE LIST
empty. Empty so that when something qualifies for the list I can give it my full attention.
Right now it is empty.

You can find something to like anywhere. There is always the sport of trying to understand your wife.

Hate is a mindless yet powerful emotion. It feeds on itself. It is a MOB emotion. We see it endlessly HOW CAN YOU NOT?

[Velvet]

More wisdom from my dad. If, you think you understand your wife you are wrong. Even if you do it will change shortly.

"The wife loves it and the guy hates it." i could write a book on that. First of all we allow the use of the word HATE, far too often. Not too long ago everything was awesome. The word was so over used that it lost all meaning. I do my best to keep my HATE LIST
empty. Empty so that when something qualifies for the list I can give it my full attention.
Right now it is empty.

You can find something to like anywhere. There is always the sport of trying to understand your wife.

Hate is a mindless yet powerful emotion. It feeds on itself. It is a MOB emotion. We see it endlessly HOW CAN YOU NOT?

I think it depends on how much do you like to come home? If one of you is really unhappy, how long do you expect the other one to stay happy?

[DAVES]

Back when I first came on ToTV there were "someone" who disparaged the community, the developer etc. I asked the question to one individual with "then why do you live here?" The answer that came back was "because I like the life-style!" Really?? My take is, you can't take it both ways. Some people will complain and gripe because they lack something within themselves. They can't find satisfaction with anything. Social media is an outlet for them (anonymously) to dump. What I would say to them....start a gratitude journal. List everything you're actually grateful for.....then see if the attitude changes.

The Thanksgiving tradition. So much of this is not new. I find history interesting in that what we think are new issues are actually very old. As I've said people will always complain. Solutions posted are rare indeed. Someone mentioned Abe Lincoln. Abe Lincoln was the one to make Thanksgiving a national holiday. I don't think anyone does not agree that our citizenry is severely divided. Imagine how divided our people were at the end of the civil war? Almost every family lost someone or something. In a brilliant yet simple act, Abe Lincoln a great leader came up with the idea of a national day of thanksgiving. No one could object to that.

As far as social media. Most are one line. Posters, assume that you fill in the MISSING details with proper information and that you know or care to know their life history while we all hide behind anonymity . It is clearly a problem with no solution

[DAVES]

I think it depends on how much do you like to come home? If one of you is really unhappy, how long do you expect the other one to stay happy?

As I regularly say, or try to say. All need to find their own answers. I'm no cockeyed optimist. Happiness is a choice.

[Byte1]

Honestly, I moved here to put some distance between us and family. Didn't like the drama. I do not care whether anyone else in the Villages likes it or not. I am fine with it, but I was also fine with my last home. What other folks think about the Villages doesn't matter because it has absolutely no effect on how I think of it. But, one of the many things that I do like that comes to mind is the fact that in every neighborhood in the Villages, there is ALWAYS a neighbor that is at home, in case one has an emergency. There is always someone in the neighborhood that "SEES" anything unusual happening. And there is always someone around to lend a hand when one needs assistance. Generally speaking, even though some are cold spirited persons from the proverbial "Northern" territories/states, they are good people. I don't know if it is just the general attitude here or what, but most folks that seem to be harsh still come thru when someone needs assistance or directions.
Yep, some neighbors complain about the "developers" but I ignore it. As far as I am concerned, after I purchased I did not need to have any association with the "developers." When I first moved here, I subscribed to the "Sun" but found that I was just recycling a lot of paper that I did not even get a chance to peruse. I discontinued it because it turned out to be a waste of a few bucks that could be used elsewhere. My spouse loves it here so that is all that matters to me. Keep your dogs off my lawn and I will have no complaints. I do not care about the stupid drivers, how you park or whether or not you knock down the gates because you are too stupid to stop. I don't care about decals on the mail boxes, or little white crosses in your yard. But, I do love it when family complains about the snow up North while I enjoy the sunshine on my legs when I wear shorts all year long. I also love it when I can go a whole year without observing a "gator" and when a family member visits, we suddenly see one that seems to be posing for us as we drive through the Villages. When you are granted years of time with your spouse that shouldn't have happened without God's intervention, you appreciate even the "grouches" in the Villages. Too bad that sharing your feelings with others doesn't always result in a change in their disposition.

[Topspinmo]

Amazed at the number of people who seem to be miserable living in TV yet choose to remain...

If I was that unhappy living somewhere, I'd leave skidmarks... (no, not THAT kind... :1rotfl: )


Let’s see? Joined in feb 2021? And now have villager’s figured out. Good job 👏.

[Velvet]

As I regularly say, or try to say. All need to find their own answers. I'm no cockeyed optimist. Happiness is a choice.

Yes, but an unhappy spouse is in a great position to make sure the other one gets to share their view point.

[DAVES]

Wow, what a diatribe of an abundance of words that probably could/can be condensed into one or two sentences. I apologize for not reading it in it's entirety, because even though it was structured like a poem, it was NOT poetry.

Her post-It seems like she needed to vent. I tend to wonder about people. Some just need to criticize. Both need to ask THEMSELVES why.

[JMintzer]

More wisdom from my dad. If, you think you understand your wife you are wrong. Even if you do it will change shortly.

"The wife loves it and the guy hates it." i could write a book on that. First of all we allow the use of the word HATE, far too often. Not too long ago everything was awesome. The word was so over used that it lost all meaning. I do my best to keep my HATE LIST
empty. Empty so that when something qualifies for the list I can give it my full attention.
Right now it is empty.

You can find something to like anywhere. There is always the sport of trying to understand your wife.

Hate is a mindless yet powerful emotion. It feeds on itself. It is a MOB emotion. We see it endlessly HOW CAN YOU NOT?

Yup! My wife was, at first, hesitant to live in TV, so we rented for two months. She spent most of the time there while I went back and forth (still working).

We wound up buying after 10-12 days of coming for our first trip (again, my wife was quite hesitant), but since we've settled on the house and been to our home 5-6 times, she can't wait to get back...

Just when you think you've figured them out... ;)

[JMintzer]

Let’s see? Joined in feb 2021? And now have villager’s figured out. Good job 👏.

Well, some, not you of course, are as transparent and glass, so it's not very hard to do...

[Velvet]

Yup! My wife was, at first, hesitant to live in TV, so we rented for two months. She spent most of the time there while I went back and forth (still working).

We wound up buying after 10-12 days of coming for our first trip (again, my wife was quite hesitant), but since we've settled on the house and been to our home 5-6 times, she can't wait to get back...

Just when you think you've figured them out... ;)

With us it was the opposite. It was my family and relatives who had lived here (for decades). My hubby lived in San Diego for some time and loves the ocean. It was up to me to see if he would be ok here. First, we checked out places to live all over the US, each place had both good and bad. Finally, he agreed to try out TV. First, he liked the climate, then he liked the neighbors. Next he liked the new golf cart, now he is thinking of serious golfing. And it goes on and on. These days he is a happy camper.

[BigSteph]

Thank you for your sage comments and opinions.


This post conflicts itself. Perhaps, a state of humanity for all of us. Robert Frost, the path not taken. I had a minor in psychology. Normal humans go through two stressful life periods. Around 15-18 what am i going to do with my life. Then, 50-???? what have I done with my life. That seems to be where most of these posts are.

Many ironies of life. Ponce de Leon came to Florida to discover the fountain of youth.
Florida is loaded with senior living-HUH?

The means or the energy? All the OLD lines apply. The world is your oyster. Where there is a will there is a way. The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.
Whatever you have there will be some with more and some with less.

I do not have the answers and if I did they would be my answers not the answers for others. I do perhaps see in many of these posts that some do not realize what the real problem is-it is them.

[Bogie Shooter]

Let’s see? Joined in feb 2021? And now have villager’s figured out. Good job 👏.

Plus , most any topic……

[JoMar]

Let’s see? Joined in feb 2021? And now have villager’s figured out. Good job 👏.

Dyslexic? Joined in 2012.

[manaboutown]

I am not continuously amazed; nor am I even continually amazed. Some people seem born to gripe and that is what they do. Even in a near Eden, they will be looking for the cracks in the sidewalk so to speak. Too, things that once amazed me no longer do. In fact it take a lot to amaze me much anymore. Granted, some of the unprecedented insanity that has arisen since the start of the pandemic did initially amaze me but no longer does as I have become inured to it..

[Love2Swim]

Telling someone to move if they are unhappy is for their own benefit. They need to give themselves that option too. Why would they want to stay where they are miserable? One life, it might as well be the happiest one they can have. (Unless, of course they chose to be miserable, always find something to make themselves unhappy.)

The trauma of change can be likened to growing pains, part of getting to something better.

I don't think most people who tell others to move if they don't like it, are doing it to be "nice' or to help others. Generally it is being said with a mean, sarcastic tinge to it, code for "if you don't agree with me, get the heck out". As others have pointed out, nothing is perfect, there are things we like about The Villages, other things that could be improved to our way of thinking.

[EdFNJ]

Aside from your personal insult regarding the intent of my post, I never told a soul to move. I stated what -I- would do...

I never said a word about legitimate complaints. So spare me your projections...
LOL, if you took that as a "personal insult" you shouldn't be hanging out on any computer forums. It was a generic insult. :1rotfl: However it did serve it's purpose as one would have expected generating pages of drivel posts. Yes, including my own. I'm sure TOTV appreciates these types of threads to keep up the forum traffic. Kinda like dog poop and Costco which is good because it generates revenue for them and keeps the forum running. "I'm Continuously Amazed ...." (to plagiarize your topic title) but not surprised at these types of topics in all the various forms they take as they bring out the best in all of us (NOT!). Regarding my classification of this topic (now, now, not you personally) as click-bait/trolling, what purpose did it REALLY serve but to generate all the expected responses and arguing which is the definition of trolling and click-bait?

[JMintzer]

Plus , most any topic……

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[JMintzer]

Dyslexic? Joined in 2012.

He's talking about me. Trying to insult me, but failing miserably...

[Bonanza]

He's talking about me. Trying to insult me, but failing miserably...

I suggest you research "projection"...

Enough already! :
:Screen_of_Death:

[Northwoods]

I don't think most people who tell others to move if they don't like it, are doing it to be "nice' or to help others. Generally it is being said with a mean, sarcastic tinge to it, code for "if you don't agree with me, get the heck out". As others have pointed out, nothing is perfect, there are things we like about The Villages, other things that could be improved to our way of thinking.

For me... that's not true. I don't understand... if someone constantly complains about where they live, why do they live there! Move to a place that doesn't have deed restrictions, or move to a city that wasn't built by a Developer. Why don't you find a place that better suits you?
I felt the same way when I worked. I had employees that would come into my office and complain about everything. I couldn't understand why they worked there!! No one was holding a gun to their head. Find a better employer that doesn't frustrate you! But they stayed. Well... until I forced some of them out.
Can't do that here... sigh...

[EdFNJ]

Not at all so. Cost of homes actually has gone up throughout the nation. Perhaps, more so in Florida. My point. Assuming you lived up north and wish to return. You can sell your home in the Villages for more than you paid for it and buy a northern home, similar to what you had. You will not only sell your villages home for more than you paid for it but the northern home will cost you more than your sold yours for.. That would depend on one's financial situation. Maybe some people moved because the cash equity in their paid off sold home where they lived for 40, 50 or 60 years allowed them to downsize and move here or in similar places because the cost of the home & taxes here was less and the C of L (that comparison chart is way off the mark for many reasons) was less. Taxes for example. Taxes up north can easily be $12-$15,000 and more a year on a small home and down here under $2,000. That's $10,000-$13,000/yr pocket money plus the equity from the sold home in the bank and have no mortgage. Maybe a spouse retired and had little or no pension and couldn't handle the cold winters. One has to realize there are a lot of people down here with a lot of money who can buy 6 homes or move every 7 months as well as a lot of people with just enough money to get by comfortably by THEIR standards for the rest of their lives on SS and a small pension with the equity in their bank accounts.. Everyone doesn't live in $600,000 homes here. There are lots of homes that were between $150-$175K (INC bond if any) 4-5 years ago and even selling those homes for $250K won't get you a life back where some came from where most everything now cost $500-600K plus $15K in taxes along with insurance and utilities 50% higher than here. It really isn't as simple as sell and move back where you came from depending on one's current life situation. Maybe for some but not for all so "if you don't like it, MOVE" may be easy to say but not easy to do.

[midiwiz]

Amazed at the number of people who seem to be miserable living in TV yet choose to remain...

If I was that unhappy living somewhere, I'd leave skidmarks... (no, not THAT kind... :1rotfl: )

The way I see it you can sit there and say nothing and nothing will change you then are nothing more than sheep OR you can pipe up and say stuff because if you don't nothing will change.

There are a lot of people that would rather say something in hopes that others will gather on the same idea and create change. Then there are those of you that just take it as it is and never move to change anything because you just play the hand you are dealt like nothing is wrong with it - aka the sheep.

Also the problem with this country. Personally I vent everything, it makes sense it creates change and I don't bend over for anyone.

[jswirs]

Amazed at the number of people who seem to be miserable living in TV yet choose to remain...

If I was that unhappy living somewhere, I'd leave skidmarks... (no, not THAT kind... :1rotfl: )

..."As funny as it may seem,
some people get their kicks stomping on a dream.
But I don't let it get me down...."

[CarrieOn]

I have lots of boxes for the people who have any complaints..
we r retired people!! Just chillllax and enjoy!!

[Jdburns11]

Amazed at the number of people who seem to be miserable living in TV yet choose to remain...

If I was that unhappy living somewhere, I'd leave skidmarks... (no, not THAT kind... :1rotfl: )

+1…. This place is the land of milk & honey and yet people are miserable or complaining at the pool, at the restaurant, on the golf course. Little rain, high 70s at the pool, playing golf in late December and meeting/drinking with new friends - not too bad.

I try to remember to be positive, even when things are not going perfectly - and that there remain stresses, challenges in folks day to day lives - and their pasts as is the case for all of us. That said, I choose to be happy, recognize and be grateful & thankful for gifts and opportunities given to me and the situation I currently find myself in.

As someone else posted - some will find issues with everything, unfortunately they will not be happy with much of anything.

And “if you have your health, you have everything” right?

Respectfully, DB

[OhioBuckeye]

Amazed at the number of people who seem to be miserable living in TV yet choose to remain...

If I was that unhappy living somewhere, I'd leave skidmarks... (no, not THAT kind... :1rotfl: )

What could they be miserable about, are you sure they’re not just miserable people. 2,000 things there to do & they don’t like it there. You’re right move!

[SeaCros]

Amazed at the number of people who seem to be miserable living in TV yet choose to remain...

If I was that unhappy living somewhere, I'd leave skidmarks... (no, not THAT kind... :1rotfl: )

Many are just happy to complain about their experience here.

[Love2Swim]

For me... that's not true. I don't understand... if someone constantly complains about where they live, why do they live there! Move to a place that doesn't have deed restrictions, or move to a city that wasn't built by a Developer. Why don't you find a place that better suits you?
I felt the same way when I worked. I had employees that would come into my office and complain about everything. I couldn't understand why they worked there!! No one was holding a gun to their head. Find a better employer that doesn't frustrate you! But they stayed. Well... until I forced some of them out.
Can't do that here... sigh...

I expect you are the exception. And to look at it from another perspective, suppose you like many things about The Villages, but you have pet peeves. Are you supposed to just shut up and not mention them, when you know others feel the same way, and they are things that could be changed or improved if enough people felt that way? I think not. Its the same old argument you hear when people complain about some things in US politics. "If you don't like it, leave the country". To me, that is really disrespectful. I think the real patriots are those who are willing to voice their concerns, and do what it takes to initiate change. In the case of the Villages, it may come down to who we vote for Commissioners, or some such thing. I think its good to get the perceived weaknesses of our community out on display, so we can work on making things better. I just don't understand why people get so antagonistic about those who mention there might be problems.

[JMintzer]

Enough already! :
:Screen_of_Death:

Sorry, but who are you?

[dewilson58]

Sorry, but who are you?

Hoss, be careful.

[bogmonster]

Damn engineers... :icon_wink:
I can tell you aren’t an engineer. My mind quickly goes to ‘did he calibrate his measurement equipment?’ and ‘ I bet it’s really 50.01% but I drink my beer at 12oz per half hour and the waitress takes 16 minutes to get drinks from the bar’. Then I’d be on to google trying to figure out why my beer bottle is made from brown glass.

[bogmonster]

I love a year ago or so, a guy came on here complaining about life in the villages. Turns out he had rented here 8 years prior for only a month and lives elsewhere in Florida. Why would you follow the forums of a place you hate 8 years after you left it?

[dewilson58]

I love a year ago or so, a guy came on here complaining about life in the villages. Turns out he had rented here 8 years prior for only a month and lives elsewhere in Florida. Why would you follow the forums of a place you hate 8 years after you left it?

There are a dozen (or so) of these on this site.

They are very unhappy people and just troll the site.

Usually you can smell them a mile away.

[JMintzer]

Hoss, be careful.

Just a simple question... If I upset the powers that be, a PM would be appropriate...

As I said, I have no idea who that person is...

[JMintzer]

I can tell you aren’t an engineer. My mind quickly goes to ‘did he calibrate his measurement equipment?’ and ‘ I bet it’s really 50.01% but I drink my beer at 12oz per half hour and the waitress takes 16 minutes to get drinks from the bar’. Then I’d be on to google trying to figure out why my beer bottle is made from brown glass.

True, but I completely get your point...

It's an old joke. A pessimist sees a glass half empty, an optimist sees a glass half full and an engineer sees a glass twice as big as it needs to be!

[Cliff Fr]

I've lived in Florida for 66 years. The most irritating and hateful comment that newcomer's can make to us goes something like this: "Why can't I get (fill in the blanks) here? I could get it "back home". That's the comment that could get you the response that "the road you got here on goes both ways"

[rpalumberi]

I agree, and I feel the same way about people who constantly complain about this beautiful country too. You don’t like, find where you want to live somewhere else in the world. That’s what my parents did. They came here.

thank you for expressing the obvious, its something we have always thought to ourselves

[Petersweeney]

My 16 yo golden has bad breath and his ears smell after 2 weeks of his bath….but he still is a great loving pup! Btw I didn’t read the last 4 pages of this nonsense…..

[Ptmckiou]

Amazed at the number of people who seem to be miserable living in TV yet choose to remain...

If I was that unhappy living somewhere, I'd leave skidmarks... (no, not THAT kind... :1rotfl: )

Happiness is generated from within. It’s the person, not their circumstances. You know…either they are a “glass half full” person, or a “glass have empty”person. It’s not your circumstances that determines happiness, it’s the person the does.

[irishwonone]

I think that those with nothing better to do than read/comment on for forum (like me right now) are bored complainer types.
Actually not true. We enjoy some of the stories and complaints we read on this site for humorous reasons. Many days are started out with a good laugh. Keep ‘‘em coming!

[ThirdOfFive]

Happiness is generated from within. It’s the person, not their circumstances. You know…either they are a “glass half full” person, or a “glass have empty”person. It’s not your circumstances that determines happiness, it’s the person the does.
No truer words were ever spoken (or written).

[Jaycottle]

Amazed at the number of people who seem to be miserable living in TV yet choose to remain...

If I was that unhappy living somewhere, I'd leave skidmarks... (no, not THAT kind... :1rotfl: )
I have found that most miserable people have no hope for what happens after this short life is over.

[Proveone]

Amazed at the number of people who seem to be miserable living in TV yet choose to remain...

If I was that unhappy living somewhere, I'd leave skidmarks... (no, not THAT kind... :1rotfl: )
I read most of the replies and with one exception, I laughed and shook my head. I appears that those of you who love everything about the Villages are pollyannaish. Those who criticize some aspects are doing so to see if others may agree and then choose to change and make this place even better. The slogan Make America Great Again is an example of that, isn't it? Now, I don't agree with that slogan (which has been used in politics for decades) because I think America has always been great ,even though as time passes, certain aspects of our day to day existence needs to be adjusted to the betterment of all of our citizens.

[ThirdOfFive]

I read most of the replies and with one exception, I laughed and shook my head. I appears that those of you who love everything about the Villages are pollyannaish. Those who criticize some aspects are doing so to see if others may agree and then choose to change and make this place even better. The slogan Make America Great Again is an example of that, isn't it? Now, I don't agree with that slogan (which has been used in politics for decades) because I think America has always been great ,even though as time passes, certain aspects of our day to day existence needs to be adjusted to the betterment of all of our citizens.
Good points.

My take is one that is probably not all that common: that there is no such thing as a good decision or a bad decision. It is what you do AFTER the decision is made that determines whether it was good or bad.

That seems to be especially true for people moving to The Villages. The lifestyle here is probably substantially different from that of where most of us hail from. There's a LOT to do and see here, but most of it takes some adjusting. If you move here from, say, Aroostook County, Maine, and enjoy solitude but want a place that offers far more than just watching slapping mosquitoes, shoveling snow and watching moose go by--well, solitude is NOT what The Villages offers. Florida is crowded and you're going to see a lot more cars and golf carts on your walk to the mailbox than you will probably in a day back in Aroostook County.

You can choose to be miserable. Or you can adjust. But the choice is yours.

[dewilson58]

You can choose to be miserable. Or you can adjust. But the choice is yours.

I agree.


It's not the Developers' fault.

:ho:

[Burgy]

Amazed at the number of people who seem to be miserable living in TV yet choose to remain...

If I was that unhappy living somewhere, I'd leave skidmarks... (no, not THAT kind... :1rotfl: )
A little Prozac might help.

[Ele201]

I agree in general to "Just Move if you Don't Like It," but this statement is not always possible.

Not everyone can afford or endure another move -- especially as they age.

The next mantra is "You should have known better, researched, rented first!"

Many people don't have the means to come down for several "Lifestyle Visits" or have a season of leisure to rent before buying. Most people I have met all agree that you have to settle your ties and debts before moving here. There are some that maintain lives here and afar, but many homestead.

I suspect if people had unlimited resources and were not happy here, they would find another place to suit them.

Some people, I agree, are in the business of misery -- if not for misery, they would be terribly miserable.

There are a lot of frogs here that don't have the means or energy to find another pond. Thanks for your post, agree with a lot of it. I’d add this saying/mantra: “The Devil you Know is Better than the Devil you Don’t Know.” Hence people stay!

[rockyhyder]

I am amazed that we can still be amazed by negative people! They’re everywhere and moving will just change the location of their negativity spout. Negative people thrive in the social media environment because that’s the best place for them to be heard. Otherwise most of us wouldn’t give them more than two seconds of our attention in person. Once they start complaining their words turn to bla bla bla because nobody willingly consents to having the life sucked out of their day for the purpose of conversation. However on the positive side, whining and complaining can be entertaining with the right mindset (which is why I read TOTV).

[MrFlorida]

If people have a bad experience they will likely complain, but when they have a positive experience they don't usually comment. It's human nature I guess....

[Luggage]

So true that there are people that will always complain and there were people there will always tell them to move. It's the same way with your wife's cooking oh, you may not like everything but you're not going to get rid of it just because of their cooking

[BigSteph]

I believe some people share comments and opinions as a sounding board to their own thinking. Most seek confirmation, but others might truly seek thoughtful debate, or a gauge of the reasonableness of their view.

The Villages is not a paradise, nor is it a living hell. There are some truly awesome features and there are some really irritating aspects as well. Everywhere I have ever dwelled, there have been both negatives or positives.

If you have a contrary view to share, I will listen and maybe understand your reasoning. I don't have the need to fight you over it, nor will I proselytize the awesomeness of the opposite view. You don't have to move out, go back north, get a life, screw yourself, get an education, or seek confirmation of your status on the spectrum. I just agree or don't.

I don't own the truth, or your truth.

I think it is Ok, even healthy, to question things. I also don't equate having a contrary opinion as being an all-time miserable person. You can be contrary and always miserable, or you can be happy in general, and irritated by a specific thing.

Just the fact that we all found ourselves here, coming from all over the country (and world), suggests we are more alike in that aspect than we are different in others.

Then again, we'll probably just continue to bash the $hit of each other.








I read most of the replies and with one exception, I laughed and shook my head. I appears that those of you who love everything about the Villages are pollyannaish. Those who criticize some aspects are doing so to see if others may agree and then choose to change and make this place even better. The slogan Make America Great Again is an example of that, isn't it? Now, I don't agree with that slogan (which has been used in politics for decades) because I think America has always been great ,even though as time passes, certain aspects of our day to day existence needs to be adjusted to the betterment of all of our citizens.

[jimjamuser]

You are assuming they would be happy elsewhere. Those who dislike their environment changing addresses may not make a difference. One of in-laws hated their up north home, too cold.. then hated their Florida home, too hot. Moved to Midwest, too hot and too cold. Some can’t ever be happy no matter what is outside their window
They should try the coast of Oregon or Washington.........the Pacific Ocean moderates the temperature. The downside is that you get high winds in the winter and too much rain in the summer. Scenery is beautiful and the people tend to the friendly side.
It would also be possible in an RV to relocate every 2 months and stay in your preferred temperature zone. Everything has pros and cons.

[jimjamuser]

Nothing in this life is 100%, be it good or bad. There are many accolades that fit the lifestyle of living in TV, but is it perfect? Of course not and far from it. While much of the negativity is true we can still benefit from it by trying to make whatever it is better.

The simple change in someone's lifestyle from moving from a completely different environment can be traumatic for some. But telling them to move somewhere else is disgraceful and about as negative as one can get!
All true and very good philosophy! Kudos!

[jimjamuser]

Aside from this topic being mostly trolling and clickbait I have found that to be a general mantra around here. Comment that one doesn't like this or that the response is "if you don't like it, move." Evidently the only way to live here is you have to drink the Kool-Aid and accept everything as it is UNLESS the other person agrees with your complaint THEN it's OK to not sell. :)

Any YES, moving from the northeast has been traumatic. 5 years next week and I still can't fully adjust to some of the stuff around here both regarding the location and the population. A lot of the good overrides some of the bad but some of the bad is just bad. There were things where I lived previously for 60+ years I didn't like either. One learns to overlook the bad most of the time.
I disagree about the "trolling and clickbait". This Tread starter has as legitimate of a subject as most others. It involves something on Villagers' minds often. The rest of that post made sense to me. In my personal opinion, I would care to retire in only 2 sections of the N.E. The finger lakes region and maybe close to Lake Erie.
......What would be close to ideal is to own a home in The Villages and have a Village leased and managed quality RV area and some nice rentals available to ONLY Villagers. So that a person could spend the summer (about 4) months and enjoy the same friends and have similar clubs and sports leagues as in Fl. That could be a dream new years wish?????

[jimjamuser]

I agree with you. I think far too many people get to the point where the northern winters are just too much to handle and they hear about TV and come down and fall hopelessly in love with what they see. They buy on a whim and find out later t that TV is not for them, and then it is too late. The cost of homes in the Northeast is astronomical compared to Florida and they find they are stuck.
Not completely stuck because Tn. is cheaper and probably a lot of other small towns.

[Bonanza]

Sorry, but who are you?

Sorry???

Seriously -- What do you really want to know?
:shrug:

[Bonanza]

Sorry, but who are you?

Hoss, be careful.

Thank you!
:BigApplause:

[Love2Swim]

I believe some people share comments and opinions as a sounding board to their own thinking. Most seek confirmation, but others might truly seek thoughtful debate, or a gauge of the reasonableness of their view.

The Villages is not a paradise, nor is it a living hell. There are some truly awesome features and there are some really irritating aspects as well. Everywhere I have ever dwelled, there have been both negatives or positives.

If you have a contrary view to share, I will listen and maybe understand your reasoning. I don't have the need to fight you over it, nor will I proselytize the awesomeness of the opposite view. You don't have to move out, go back north, get a life, screw yourself, get an education, or seek confirmation of your status on the spectrum. I just agree or don't.

I don't own the truth, or your truth.

I think it is Ok, even healthy, to question things. I also don't equate having a contrary opinion as being an all-time miserable person. You can be contrary and always miserable, or you can be happy in general, and irritated by a specific thing.

Just the fact that we all found ourselves here, coming from all over the country (and world), suggests we are more alike in that aspect than we are different in others.

Then again, we'll probably just continue to bash the $hit of each other.

Thanks! This is one of the best replies to the post I've seen. :bigbow:

[JMintzer]

Sorry???

Seriously -- What do you really want to know?
:shrug:

Just why you're telling me "enough already!"

Your user title reflects no mention of you being a "Moderator" or "TOTV Specialist", so your post caused confusion.

If you are indeed one of "the powers that be", it would seem a PM would be the appropriate way to let me know if I crossed some sort of line. And it would be nice if you listed that in your user profile.

Every other forum I've ever participated in (including the current one in which I help moderate), have the Mods and Admins listed in their user profile...

Of course if it's your board, you're free to do what you want, but as this thread demonstrates, many people give suggestions as to how TV could be improved, and I'm simply doing the same about how communication on TOTV can be improved.

As always, YMMV...

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Wow, what a diatribe of an abundance of words that probably could/can be condensed into one or two sentences. I apologize for not reading it in it's entirety, because even though it was structured like a poem, it was NOT poetry.

So rather than do the polite, civilized thing and simply skip the post and not respond at all, you felt it was more your style to rudely inform me that my post sucked, and you have no actual contribution to my end of the discussion at all.

I am -not- continually amazed by this attitude, around here.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I can tell you aren’t an engineer. My mind quickly goes to ‘did he calibrate his measurement equipment?’ and ‘ I bet it’s really 50.01% but I drink my beer at 12oz per half hour and the waitress takes 16 minutes to get drinks from the bar’. Then I’d be on to google trying to figure out why my beer bottle is made from brown glass.

Huh - I thought that was all just how people with ADD think. So you're saying I might be an engineer?

[Bogie Shooter]

Thanks! This is one of the best replies to the post I've seen. :bigbow:

Your vote is duly noted.................................

[dewilson58]

So you're saying I might be an engineer?

Quite insulting.

[EdFNJ]

I disagree about the "trolling and clickbait". This Tread starter has as legitimate of a subject as most others. It involves something on Villagers' minds often. The rest of that post made sense to me. In my personal opinion, I would care to retire in only 2 sections of the N.E. The finger lakes region and maybe close to Lake Erie.
......What would be close to ideal is to own a home in The Villages and have a Village leased and managed quality RV area and some nice rentals available to ONLY Villagers. So that a person could spend the summer (about 4) months and enjoy the same friends and have similar clubs and sports leagues as in Fl. That could be a dream new years wish?????

Well, considering the title of the thread was simply: I'm Continuously Amazed... and nothing else (NO actual subject) it is the perfect example of click-bait.

Clickbait - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clickbait)

As for trolling read the 110+ messages and note the expected and sometimes insulting and nasty responses generated from the usual gang. Of course it is also possible IF the OP had actually been a full time resident and not have the pleasure of being able to have 2 different lives it's possible but not necessarily a sure thing that he might just discover something he doesn't like as well to complain about. And generally speaking, just because one has a complaint about 1 or 2 or even 5 things that doesn't indicate that they are so horrified by what goes on they should get out of dodge which is what this topic was destined to and has become..

[Herscheleen]

Where was your mom from, she sounds alot like my mom.

[JMintzer]

Well, considering the title of the thread was simply: I'm Continuously Amazed... and nothing else (NO actual subject) it is the perfect example of click-bait.

Clickbait - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clickbait)

As for trolling read the 110+ messages and note the expected and sometimes insulting and nasty responses generated from the usual gang. Of course it is also possible IF the OP had actually been a full time resident and not have the pleasure of being able to have 2 different lives it's possible but not necessarily a sure thing that he might just discover something he doesn't like as well to complain about. And generally speaking, just because one has a complaint about 1 or 2 or even 5 things that doesn't indicate that they are so horrified by what goes on they should get out of dodge which is what this topic was destined to and has become..

Interesting, since a quick review of posts over just the past few days show more than a few thread titles that are somewhat cryptic in nature, with "no actual subject"... Your post history shows a few, as well... Were you "trolling" when you started them?

Nowhere in my posts did I complain about anyone who you seem to consider a "real villager", voicing a concern.

It's was patently obvious I was talking about the few who do almost nothing but post the same complaints over and over and over again... Those who seem to be miserable living in TV...

But sure, try to insult me by accusing me of trolling then complain about others "nasty and insulting" responses from the usual gang...

[EdFNJ]

Interesting, since a quick review of posts over just the past few days show more than a few thread titles that are somewhat cryptic in nature, with "no actual subject"... Your post history shows a few, as well... Were you "trolling" when you started them?

Nowhere in my posts did I complain about anyone who you seem to consider a "real villager", voicing a concern.

It's was patently obvious I was talking about the few who do almost nothing but post the same complaints over and over and over again... Those who seem to be miserable living in TV...

But sure, try to insult me by accusing me of trolling then complain about others "nasty and insulting" responses from the usual gang...

OUCH !! :1rotfl: I've noticed some users in the forum get insulted quite easily. Those people need to understand that's how internet forums work and users shouldn't take it so personally and get their panties in a bunch because they take a comment personally. Kinda like the discussion in this thread ..... if someone doesn't like how it works they should either not participate or learn to take it. If posters can't take the heat they should stay out of the direct sun as it's bad for thin skin.

As for your comment to me directly, I won't address it as it's not worth dragging this out any longer as this thread has way over served it's intended purpose which I have yet to figure out what it was.

So Merry Christmas, Happy Hannukah or Happy Kwanzaa and have a happy and healthy New Year. Maybe you'll become a frog soon and get to enjoy the full Villages experience. It's pretty great except for a glitch here and there.

:highfive:

[Bonanza]

[QUOTE=JMintzer;2043741]Just why you're telling me "enough already!"
I believe those two words are pretty clear.

Your user title reflects no mention of you being a "Moderator" or "TOTV Specialist", so your post caused confusion.
"]Where is there confusion?? There isn't any!
Perhaps no mention of being a Moderator or TOTV Specialist is because there is no need to mention that. No one is privy to that kind of information publically on this forum.

If you are indeed one of "the powers that be", it would seem a PM would be the appropriate way to let me know if I crossed some sort of line. And it would be nice if you listed that in your user profile.
Whatever is in my profile is all anyone needs to know. When you "cross the line," the "powers that be" will always let you know privately in the form of a PM; they make it very clear regarding any penalties they issue. I'm sure you know what I mean.

Every other forum I've ever participated in (including the current one in which I help moderate), have the Mods and Admins listed in their user profile...
The Mods here are anonymous and it should be kept that way. You help moderate? Uhhh, I don't think so unless you are referring to your ongoing rhetoric regarding a post someone else makes. If that be the case, that ain't moderating!

Of course if it's your board, you're free to do what you want, but as this thread demonstrates, many people give suggestions as to how TV could be improved, and I'm simply doing the same about how communication on TOTV can be improved.
This is everyone's board. I don't think the masses on this site see your comments as a recommendation for improving communication here. :rolleyes: No. Your comments do not do that.:

*****

[Byte1]

]OUCH !! :1rotfl: I've noticed some users in the forum get insulted quite easily. [/B]Those people need to understand that's how internet forums work and users shouldn't take it so personally and get their panties in a bunch because they take a comment personally. Kinda like the discussion in this thread ..... if someone doesn't like how it works they should either not participate or learn to take it. If posters can't take the heat they should stay out of the direct sun as it's bad for thin skin.

As for your comment to me directly, I won't address it as it's not worth dragging this out any longer as this thread has way over served it's intended purpose which I have yet to figure out what it was.

So Merry Christmas, Happy Hannukah or Happy Kwanzaa and have a happy and healthy New Year. Maybe you'll become a frog soon and get to enjoy the full Villages experience. It's pretty great except for a glitch here and there.

:highfive:

Hmmmm...pot or kettle....that is the question. :)

[JMintzer]

OUCH !! :1rotfl: I've noticed some users in the forum get insulted quite easily. Those people need to understand that's how internet forums work and users shouldn't take it so personally and get their panties in a bunch because they take a comment personally. Kinda like the discussion in this thread ..... if someone doesn't like how it works they should either not participate or learn to take it. If posters can't take the heat they should stay out of the direct sun as it's bad for thin skin.

As for your comment to me directly, I won't address it as it's not worth dragging this out any longer as this thread has way over served it's intended purpose which I have yet to figure out what it was.

So Merry Christmas, Happy Hannukah or Happy Kwanzaa and have a happy and healthy New Year. Maybe you'll become a frog soon and get to enjoy the full Villages experience. It's pretty great except for a glitch here and there.

:highfive:

I've been participating in and moderating forums for over 20 years, so please don't lecture me on how they work...

I've dealt with passive aggressive posters again and again.

So spare me the righteous indignations...

You quote me and then state "Some people"... What a lame attempt to skirt the "personal insult rule"...

[JMintzer]

[QUOTE=JMintzer;2043741]Just why you're telling me "enough already!"
I believe those two words are pretty clear.

Your user title reflects no mention of you being a "Moderator" or "TOTV Specialist", so your post caused confusion.
"]Where is there confusion?? There isn't any!
Perhaps no mention of being a Moderator or TOTV Specialist is because there is no need to mention that. No one is privy to that kind of information publically on this forum.

If you are indeed one of "the powers that be", it would seem a PM would be the appropriate way to let me know if I crossed some sort of line. And it would be nice if you listed that in your user profile.
Whatever is in my profile is all anyone needs to know. When you "cross the line," the "powers that be" will always let you know privately in the form of a PM; they make it very clear regarding any penalties they issue. I'm sure you know what I mean.

Every other forum I've ever participated in (including the current one in which I help moderate), have the Mods and Admins listed in their user profile...
The Mods here are anonymous and it should be kept that way. You help moderate? Uhhh, I don't think so unless you are referring to your ongoing rhetoric regarding a post someone else makes. If that be the case, that ain't moderating!

Of course if it's your board, you're free to do what you want, but as this thread demonstrates, many people give suggestions as to how TV could be improved, and I'm simply doing the same about how communication on TOTV can be improved.
This is everyone's board. I don't think the masses on this site see your comments as a recommendation for improving communication here. :rolleyes: No. Your comments do not do that.:

*****

Your user name "Bonanza" IS anonymous!

You wouldn't be exposing your real identity by listing yourself as an Admin or Moderator...

But your cryptic references have answered my question.

And yes, I HELP moderate on ANOTHER board. I've also done it on two OTHER boards, filled with musicians. I never stated nor suggested that I help on THIS board. My only contributions are my posts...

If you think this one is bad, try 20K active participants. It's like herding cats...

That said, message received...

[fdpaq0580]

Huh - I thought that was all just how people with ADD think. So you're saying I might be an engineer?

Engineer, can I go for a ride on your train??😍😍😍

[CoachKandSportsguy]

yikes! Jmintzer is none of these accusations. . . and if I have insulted him, I apologize for poor typing, as it wasn't intentional, but for the rest of these comments or accusations, not warranted towards anyone on the thread, and I recommend the moderator close the thread as its getting way too personal and out of hand. . .

And the post voted the best, I agree, as its representative of every community

[JMintzer]

yikes! Jmintzer is none of these accusations. . . and if I have insulted him, I apologize for poor typing, as it wasn't intentional, but for the rest of these comments or accusations, not warranted towards anyone on the thread, and I recommend the moderator close the thread as its getting way too personal and out of hand. . .

And the post voted the best, I agree, as its representative of every community

Not to worry, you posted nothing that was ever perceived as an insult...

As to your recommendation, not a bad idea...

[Moderator]

I think this topic has run its course. Thread closed.