Perspective is everything

[CoachKandSportsguy]

https://twitter.com/TraderUnicorn/status/1475648769517670407

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Imagine you were born in 1900.
When you're 14 World War I begins and ends at 18 years old with 22 million dead.
Shortly after, a global pandemic Flu called 'Spanish' ", kills 50 million people.
You come out alive and free
You are 20 years old.
Then, at 29, you survive the global economic crisis that started with the collapse of the New York Stock Exchange, causing deflation, Unemployment, and Hunger.
At 33, the nazis come to power.
You turn 39 when World War II starts and ends at 45 During the Holocaust (Holocaust), 6 million Jews die.
There will be over 60 million deaths in total.
When you're 52, the Korean War begins.
At age 64, the Vietnam War begins and ends at age 75
A person born in 1985 thinks his grandparents have no idea how difficult life is, but they have survived several wars and disasters.
A person born in 1995 and now 25 years old thinks it's the end of the world when his Amazon package takes over three days to arrive or when he doesn't get more than 15 likes for their photo posted on Facebook or Instagram. ....
In 2020, many of us live comfortably, have access to different sources of home entertainment, and often have more than we need.
None of this existed before.
But we survived far more disastrous circumstances and never lost the joy of living.

Perspective is everything
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So Happy New Year and be thankful that TV can be the friendliest home town, if you decide to make it be that after surviving through the events in your life, and who others have not.

[manaboutown]

My father was born in 1898 and passed away in 1992. Horse and buggy to the moon and beyond. He experienced an ever changing world.

I wonder what George Washington, Benjamin Franklin and others alive during the founding of our great and wonderful country would have to say about life today here and in the world in general.

[Stu from NYC]

Our grandparents, parents and ourselves have sure lived in interesting times.

Can hardly imagine the world our grandkids will inherit

[CoachKandSportsguy]

My father was born in 1898 and passed away in 1992. Horse and buggy to the moon and beyond.

What a life! from the end of the Agrarian age through the industrial age to the beginning of the technology age. . . what a movie he saw!

My dad was from 1924 through 2015, seeing the same from his agrarian parents to the technology age, as a mechanical gear designer, from log tables and slide rules to trs80 to Auto Cad drawings, flying on airplanes at 700 mph. . .

I programmed his involute curve calculations on the TRS 80 in the early 80s and he loved it as a check against his slide rule calculations. . .

:bigbow: to the founders of industrial and technological revolutions.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

my dad had mechanical assemblies go to the moon, and the first house on the right on our street, the owner was part of the heat shield development on the apollo missions for the capsule re-entry. . . what a time to be alive

[manaboutown]

My father had and survived the Spanish Flu. He was a grocer during the depression and saw people he knew who had no dog buy dog food to eat themselves as it was all they could afford.

My mother was born in 1905. Her father lost everything during the Great Depression. She lost one brother who was shot down flying back to England from a bomb run to Germany. Never found the plane or the bodies. Another brother was shot down flying The Hump. He and his whole crew survived. The Chinese hid them from the Japanese occupying forces and fed them. She used to tell me "Life is a struggle." and it certainly was back then. Very difficult times.

[DAVES]

https://twitter.com/TraderUnicorn/status/1475648769517670407

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Imagine you were born in 1900.
When you're 14 World War I begins and ends at 18 years old with 22 million dead.
Shortly after, a global pandemic Flu called 'Spanish' ", kills 50 million people.
You come out alive and free
You are 20 years old.
Then, at 29, you survive the global economic crisis that started with the collapse of the New York Stock Exchange, causing deflation, Unemployment, and Hunger.
At 33, the nazis come to power.
You turn 39 when World War II starts and ends at 45 During the Holocaust (Holocaust), 6 million Jews die.
There will be over 60 million deaths in total.
When you're 52, the Korean War begins.
At age 64, the Vietnam War begins and ends at age 75
A person born in 1985 thinks his grandparents have no idea how difficult life is, but they have survived several wars and disasters.
A person born in 1995 and now 25 years old thinks it's the end of the world when his Amazon package takes over three days to arrive or when he doesn't get more than 15 likes for their photo posted on Facebook or Instagram. ....
In 2020, many of us live comfortably, have access to different sources of home entertainment, and often have more than we need.
None of this existed before.
But we survived far more disastrous circumstances and never lost the joy of living.

Perspective is everything
***/

So Happy New Year and be thankful that TV can be the friendliest home town, if you decide to make it be that after surviving through the events in your life, and who others have not.

I've had the same thought. Soo many things I wish I was mature enough to have asked before they passed away. My great grandmother was over 100 when she passed. There is nothing as amusing for a 13 year old than a dirty joke from a 100 year old.

In her life time, she came to America on a sailing ship. The cheap rooms in the bow of the ship-it rocks the most. By the time she passed men had walked on the moon.

WE-I remember needing to go to the library to look things up a computer was huge. With punch cards. We did not have enough money to buy one but a TV had a tiny screen. Gadgets? They sold a magnifying lens for the TV.

The doctor would come to your house. He could see how you were living-how well you were eating. How clean your home was. His charge was $5.00.

Yup, all has changed. Self responsibility for many it is totally nuts to them.

[billethkid]

In addition to a very distinct and different perspective of the day, there is the matter of ethics and core values.

From MY perspective both of which have been and continue to degenerate/degrade/devolve!

[Michael G.]

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Can hardly imagine the world our grandkids will inherit

Didn't you ever hear your elders say the same thing when you were young?

[Worldseries27]

https://twitter.com/TraderUnicorn/status/1475648769517670407

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Imagine you were born in 1900.
When you're 14 World War I begins and ends at 18 years old with 22 million dead.
Shortly after, a global pandemic Flu called 'Spanish' ", kills 50 million people.
You come out alive and free
You are 20 years old.
Then, at 29, you survive the global economic crisis that started with the collapse of the New York Stock Exchange, causing deflation, Unemployment, and Hunger.
At 33, the nazis come to power.
You turn 39 when World War II starts and ends at 45 During the Holocaust (Holocaust), 6 million Jews die.
There will be over 60 million deaths in total.
When you're 52, the Korean War begins.
At age 64, the Vietnam War begins and ends at age 75
A person born in 1985 thinks his grandparents have no idea how difficult life is, but they have survived several wars and disasters.
A person born in 1995 and now 25 years old thinks it's the end of the world when his Amazon package takes over three days to arrive or when he doesn't get more than 15 likes for their photo posted on Facebook or Instagram. ....
In 2020, many of us live comfortably, have access to different sources of home entertainment, and often have more than we need.
None of this existed before.
But we survived far more disastrous circumstances and never lost the joy of living.

Perspective is everything
***/

So Happy New Year and be thankful that TV can be the friendliest home town, if you decide to make it be that after surviving through the events in your life, and who others have not.
above the party before they depart]

William Parrish : It's hard to let go, isn't it?

Joe Black : Yes it is, Bill.

William Parrish : And that's life... what can I tell you.

William Parrish : Should I be afraid?

Joe Black : Not a man like you

[GOLFER54]

My father, my grandfather and his fathers and brothers all worked the coal mines in Pennsylvania, some died early from black lung disease; pneumoconiosis (CWP) and silicosis.Tough lives.

[La lamy]

Hardships builds character and gratitude to be alive. I have trust in the majority of humankind being adaptable and weathering new shortcomings, whatever they may be.

[nn0wheremann]

My father was born in 1898 and passed away in 1992. Horse and buggy to the moon and beyond. He experienced an ever changing world.

I wonder what George Washington, Benjamin Franklin and others alive during the founding of our great and wonderful country would have to say about life today here and in the world in general.
“Avoid foreign entanglements”

[rmd2]

My mom was born in a farm in 1909. She grew up with no electric, no cars. Grandpa had a horse that pulled the plow on the farm. He lived to be 96. Even when I was a little girl we stayed at another relative's farm and they had one electric wire strung across the ceiling with a bare light bulb in the house, no phone, unpasturized milk, no indoor bathroom, and a hand pump in the kitchen for water.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

My mom was born in a farm in 1909. She grew up with no electric, no cars. Grandpa had a horse that pulled the plow on the farm. He lived to be 96. Even when I was a little girl we stayed at another relative's farm and they had one electric wire strung across the ceiling with a bare light bulb in the house, no phone, unpasturized milk, no indoor bathroom, and a hand pump in the kitchen for water.

I moved from Boston to a then rural town in the early 60s
The town grocery store is now a 4 table pizza joint and a same size convenience store.
There were 3 to 4 cattle farms on the road out to my house. One additional farm was on a hill for hay, and still used a horse to ?? it in the 60s due to the slope.
There were many police reports of cattle in the road which had escaped.
Only the major roads had asphalt, the remainder had dirt or sand covered asphalt liquid

That is civilized compared to RMD's farm description above. . . our ancestors were tough, coming from the agrarian age. Working for survival every day, just like a gazelle on the Serenghetti, eat or be eaten, farm or starve. .

The Lewis and clark expedition had to find food almost every day, just to survive, as they couldn't carry much which would feed them for months.

[rukiddingmertnow]

https://twitter.com/TraderUnicorn/status/1475648769517670407

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/*******
Imagine you were born in 1900.
When you're 14 World War I begins and ends at 18 years old with 22 million dead.
Shortly after, a global pandemic Flu called 'Spanish' ", kills 50 million people.
You come out alive and free
You are 20 years old.
Then, at 29, you survive the global economic crisis that started with the collapse of the New York Stock Exchange, causing deflation, Unemployment, and Hunger.
At 33, the nazis come to power.
You turn 39 when World War II starts and ends at 45 During the Holocaust (Holocaust), 6 million Jews die.
There will be over 60 million deaths in total.
When you're 52, the Korean War begins.
At age 64, the Vietnam War begins and ends at age 75
A person born in 1985 thinks his grandparents have no idea how difficult life is, but they have survived several wars and disasters.
A person born in 1995 and now 25 years old thinks it's the end of the world when his Amazon package takes over three days to arrive or when he doesn't get more than 15 likes for their photo posted on Facebook or Instagram. ....
In 2020, many of us live comfortably, have access to different sources of home entertainment, and often have more than we need.
None of this existed before.
But we survived far more disastrous circumstances and never lost the joy of living.

Perspective is everything
***/

So Happy New Year and be thankful that TV can be the friendliest home town, if you decide to make it be that after surviving through the events in your life, and who others have not.
Thanks for this. Very timely.
Happy New Year everyone

[dougawhite]

As usual Monty Python handles this one perfectly:
Four Yorkshiremen- Monty Python - YouTube (https://youtu.be/ue7wM0QC5LE)

[jimjamuser]

Our grandparents, parents and ourselves have sure lived in interesting times.

Can hardly imagine the world our grandkids will inherit
To imagine that, just watch the series, "The Expanse". Science Fiction forever!!!!!!!

[jimjamuser]

my dad had mechanical assemblies go to the moon, and the first house on the right on our street, the owner was part of the heat shield development on the apollo missions for the capsule re-entry. . . what a time to be alive
Success is a combination of ability, ambition, health, luck, and being born in the right place at the right time!

[jimjamuser]

Hardships builds character and gratitude to be alive. I have trust in the majority of humankind being adaptable and weathering new shortcomings, whatever they may be.
Good philosophy from a high altitude perspective.

[Westie Man]

and an outhouse . Going out there on a cold dark night is an experience I will never forgot.

But the occupants were middle /upper class 20 somethings on an extending vacation which they called getting back to the earth.



My mom was born in a farm in 1909. She grew up with no electric, no cars. Grandpa had a horse that pulled the plow on the farm. He lived to be 96. Even when I was a little girl we stayed at another relative's farm and they had one electric wire strung across the ceiling with a bare light bulb in the house, no phone, unpasturized milk, no indoor bathroom, and a hand pump in the kitchen for water.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Success is a combination of ability, ambition, health, luck, and being born in the right place at the right time!

isn't this just a generalized, common knowledge statement, which can apply to any topic, but not really relevant to what our relatives have experienced, as what they experienced in the last hundred years, has nothing to do with their success?

The topic is more about the changes that our relatives and people we know have seen in their lifetime, and the apollo missions was a huge technological feat which people who grew up at the end of the agrarian, such as Manaboutown's father had seen which would seem incredible, no success criteria combination above apply, except being born and living through the time period.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

My kids (born in 1985, 1989 and 1995) had to deal with the DC Sniper, 9/11, and school shootings...

Things previous generations never could imagine... So yes, perspective is everything! ;)and don’t forget , housing, , stock market crashes , aids , loss of good paying manual jobs , like the docks, factories, warehouses no fixed pension plans , a dirty planet , job insecurity for even the brightest , a divided nation that only gets more rigid by the month, a pandemic that will probably be with us forever, random mass shootings yes this group have it easy

[Worldseries27]

to imagine that, just watch the series, "the expanse". Science fiction forever!!!!!!!
villagers would need to spend a few days on the krell mind device before viewing.
I mean have you not seen buck rodgers

[Byte1]

I remember having a "party line" rotary dial phone. I remember nickle coke machines and a cherry Coke at the snack bar of the drug store for five cents. A one scoop ice cream cone for five cents. We had the first Television in our neighborhood because my father worked in a TV lab. He invented the old mail sorting machine. He worked on parts that went up in the first rockets, as well as electron microscopes. When he worked for the gov. he had over 50 inventions that he never received compensation for because of his gov employment. He fought in WWII. And my grandfather fought in WWI, underage I might add.
The doctors from my childhood made house calls. I had all the childhood diseases, even having to be immersed in a tub of ice water (literally) to lower my temperature. My grandmother had polio and had a limp until she died. Same with my aunt.
When it comes to hardships, we have lived through nothing in comparison to our parents.

[Byte1]

Hard times create hard men
Hard men create good times
Good times create soft men
Soft men create hard times.

author: G. Michael Hopf ?

[Boomer]

Hard times create hard men
Hard men create good times
Good times create soft men
Soft men create hard times.

author: G. Michael Hopf ?


I like what your quote says. You paraphrased.

If I may — here it is:

Hard times create strong men,
Strong men create good times,
Good times create weak men,
And weak men create hard times.

It is in a post-apocalyptic novel by G. Michael Hopf, but it might have been around for a lot longer.

Sure seems obvious to me. It’s happening right now, right under our noses.

I think a lot of our 30-50ish year-old men are undirected/misdirected. Weak. Spoiled. Maybe bored. Looking for something to make them feel “manly” — like maybe not getting the vaccine. Wanting to be a part of something bigger.

Undirected, or misdirected, testosterone is taking our country down.

Bring back the draft? If their daddies did not get the job done, then maybe their Uncle Sam can?

But that does not have to mean waging constant war. It could mean teaching things like high steel construction, how to use big equipment (other than tanks) — and a lot of other practical uses of all that testosterone running amok. Let’s build some bridges — literally and figuratively.

Vaccine refusal is on a spectrum. But 30-50 year olds are a big percentage. There are a lot of men in that age group who are refusing the vaccine for no good reason. They encourage each other, running their mouths — in pseudo-manliness. Gotta be one-a the boys, ya know.

(This is a bit of a segue, and yes, a rant, because I know a “healthy” young man (42) with a family. Now, in the hospital with brutal Covid. Family has been told if he makes it, he might never be the same. His mother begged him to get the vaccine. Her heart is breaking. His has stopped once.)

Enough from me this morning. I must go fix pork and sauerkraut with prayers for a turned-around 2022.

Boomer

[davem4616]

I wonder what George Washington, Benjamin Franklin and others alive during the founding of our great and wonderful country would have to say about life today here and in the world in general.

IMHO,
George would most likely be surprised at how many homes now lined the opposite shoreline of the Potomac, where he tossed that coin....Ben would be flabbergasted at the price of stamps

Jefferson would be claiming that all the stories in the news about him and one of his slaves having an affair was fake news and Hancock would be looking for accrued royalty payments from a certain insurance company

The rest of them would be debating whether it was Pat's or Geno's that served the best steak and cheese in Philly

[Byte1]

I like what your quote says. You paraphrased.

If I may — here it is:

Hard times create strong men,
Strong men create good times,
Good times create weak men,
And weak men create hard times.

It is in a post-apocalyptic novel by G. Michael Hopf, but it might have been around for a lot longer.

Sure seems obvious to me. It’s happening right now, right under our noses.

I think a lot of our 30-50ish year-old men are undirected/misdirected. Weak. Spoiled. Maybe bored. Looking for something to make them feel “manly” — like maybe not getting the vaccine. Wanting to be a part of something bigger.

Undirected, or misdirected, testosterone is taking our country down.

Bring back the draft? If their daddies did not get the job done, then maybe their Uncle Sam can?

But that does not have to mean waging constant war. It could mean teaching things like high steel construction, how to use big equipment (other than tanks) — and a lot of other practical uses of all that testosterone running amok. Let’s build some bridges — literally and figuratively.

Vaccine refusal is on a spectrum. But 30-50 year olds are a big percentage. There are a lot of men in that age group who are refusing the vaccine for no good reason. They encourage each other, running their mouths — in pseudo-manliness. Gotta be one-a the boys, ya know.

(This is a bit of a segue, and yes, a rant, because I know a “healthy” young man (42) with a family. Now, in the hospital with brutal Covid. Family has been told if he makes it, he might never be the same. His mother begged him to get the vaccine. Her heart is breaking. His has stopped once.)

Enough from me this morning. I must go fix pork and sauerkraut with prayers for a turned-around 2022.

Boomer

Thank you for the correction. I knew it was something like that. Perhaps a slight glitch in my memory.:icon_wink:
As for the vaccination, well I guess everyone has to make their own decision on that. Three out of four of my children declined the vaccination because they caught the virus before the shots were available and now are being told by their doctors to hold off on the shots, since their immunity is still high. One had the virus twice and kept working from home. Several grandchildren shrugged off the virus. I weighed the pros and cons and committed to getting vaccinated for my spouse. Just had the my yearly physical and my blood work and blood pressure is better than ever. Even if I caught it, I would probably fare better than my children.
Like I said, it's a matter of preference as to whether one gets it or not. I won't argue one way or another because I do not wish to influence anyone either way.

[Bay Kid]

My grandparents started before WW1. I was the lucky one to grow up with one Grandparent in a country store, lived upstairs and had a half bath. Heard many stories around the coal stove about how hard life was back in the day and great it is in the '50s.
My other Grandparent had a farm. No bathroom, no tv or radio and the Great Grandparents lived in the same home. Great stories on how hard live was to them.
They all thought the '50s was the best time of their life!